DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE: Portal Jump Plot Hole Explained | Sneak Peek
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On this episode of New Rockstars’ SNEAK PEEK, Erik Voss and Jessica Clemons answer your biggest questions about the Deadpool and Wolverine trailer, including what Erik mistook about the sling-ring portal jump that Wolverine and Deadpool make, and how it connects, or doesn’t, to the Marvel Multiverse!
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It's definitely Madisynn using the sling ring
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My thoughts exactly!
HAS to be 😂
With 2 Ns, 1 Y, but it's not where you think
@@rickardo522she's so out of pocket, I love it 😂
Erik, as a former journalist I am so happy that New Rockstars takes their time to properly research and edit videos. It shows to me you all really care about your work.
I sure hope that this is sarcasm bud
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Sling Ring portals can open portals between universes. In What If, Supreme Strange used a sling ring portal to summon Zombies from the Zombie Universe. They just didn’t do that in NWH. It seems one has to be powerful enough in order to use a sling ring to open a portal to another universe.
Tobey and Andrew??
@@dcrkpaint What about Tobey and Andrew?
You're the only other person that remembers that😂😂
@@ethansagastume5462 Yes I am someone who knows useless knowledge about the MCU.
Definitely just miscommunication between writers cause it definitely negates the plot of MoM, but i’m sure they are supposed to open portals between “realities” they said and it does let them access the mirror dimension etc but I feel like parallel universes, No. however it seems what if writers just treated it as the multiverse..
Honestly, I kinda love when y'all react to your own videos.
Mordo says " the sling ring is essential to mastering the mystic arts, they allow us to travel throughout the multiverse!! Go watch Dr strange 1 again.
For real. Was such an underrated marvel movie. Soooo good
God damn that’s a deep cut. I have so much hope for X-Men 97 building towards DPXW
@@DannyBedo Despite it having nothing to do with the mcu
I was going to make this same point. They do allow for multiversal travel!
@@Mjsports3730 Dr Strange 1 was a part of the MCU
Ned brought Strange back from the mirror dimension at the end of NWH. The void could be a dimension shared by all existing timelines that remains there even after a timeline has been pruned due to its ties to the remaining timelines yet to be pruned.
I hope it's Ned opening a portal lol
I think Mordo’s saying in the first Doctor Strange that slings rings could allow users to travel the multiverse is purely a writers oversight before the rules of the multiverse were more refined in the future
That's just it the rules have not changed. Check Marvel data base😂😂😂
Baron Mordo in Dr Strange 1 explained how the rings are able to open portals throughout the "Multiverse" verbatim
although if this is true it would ruin the whole plot point of MoM and the need for America Chavez
@@yanceysemein1998well, Raimi and the writers of MoM said they didn't watch WandaVision so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't watch Doctor Strange 1 either
Yep, was going to mention this too
@@BaithNathey didn’t watch Wanda vision because it wasn’t done when they were making mom
Wouldn't have had to watch either one if there was some interdepartmental communication going on, but we're talking about Disney here
Mordo from Dr strange 1 left the chat
WHO ELSE THINKS ITS WONG NOT DR STRANGE
We’re in the multiverse so It might be a slight play on the variant
Nobody gives a crap even if you type it in capslock.
Cassandra nova
it could be a variety of doctor strange played by a different actor!
It should be doom.
Dude, you taking your time is one reason why I like watching NR over others. That and the realness of this place.
Bruce Campbells Dr. Strange 🤣
There's not a single mcu character in that trailer. My guess is that all of the scenes from the trailer are from the first half of the movie (even Cassandra nova doesn't look like a villain either) and they're trying to trick us from the main plot, My guess is that portal is going somewhere where the major conflict is really happening.
Surely a 2+ hour "MCU" movie won't revolve around a void looking universe filled with x men characters fighting each other till the end of the movie. so i think that portal is 100% going to another universe (most likely MCU) and Deadpool will surely interact with a lot of MCU characters we won't expect
Ant-man's corpse. Remember main antagonist CassiNo is using his humongous remains as a home-based compound.
You’ve got a point Maybe Alioth devoured most of the void that they had to take the battle somewhere else
@@VKV117zurely you haven't been watching mshitu the past four years, they are entirely detached from their own success/fanbase
@@fortelewisandrew2426 I dunno if @VKV117 would quibble on "character" (vs. likeness or artifacts or something) but for that matter recall Deadpool watching MCU TV in the TVA in the first trailer. There's no question that the two universes are presented as adjacent and able to influence each other. Different question whether the actor of an MCU character actually appears and talks and stuff.
I think it’s Robbie Reyes’ Ghost Rider lol he can make portals too!
I said this same thing lol
I also wanted to mention this too.
*YES!* Gabriel Luna! 😎 💀🔥
19:08 Ngl, I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor Swift did a Dazzler Cameo lol. I wouldn't expect it to be guaranteed, but I definitely think it's a possibility, especially for a Deadpool film.
I think the writers gave a *wink* to this in the recent X-Men '97 episode with Mojo saying "Dazzler had a gig, don't ask"....like Taylor/Dazzler had a gig. That would be awesome if true.
Madisynn wearing a sling ring while getting a little R-rated with Wongers on his couch while watching Netflix... you know that would happen in a Deadpool movie
Omg Madisynn is perfectly chaotic enough for a Deadpool movie. I NEED THIS
I just want Deadpool to travel to a universe where Steve Rogers and Tony Stark are still alive so Tony can chide Deadpool for swearing horribly in front of Steve.
Steve is on the Secret moon base
steve rogers is still alive in the main universe he's just old " travel to a universe where Steve Rogers and Tony Stark" so that's a bad take
steve rogers isn't like that in the comics
ur only going by the movie version not the actual character itself.
@@Oldschool1943 Well that’s the only character we’re talking about so
Wong's reoccurring dream of running from a cloud, could from be the Wong in that universe running from Alioth.
Definitely makes sense.
i thought he said clown
It's a hot topic because in Dr. Strange, they say it allows them to travel throughout the multiverse.
Then MOM looses the plot with the need of America Chavez
Thay was when there was only the sacred timeline. Their idea of the multiverse at that point was different dimensions.
You guys have the best work a fan of marvel could get ! I appreciate you for the fine work
i love all these theories, and no one really knows anything!
It is going to be a Sorcerer Supreme Deadpool who is also in the Void. Mark my words!
Ooooo maybe that’s part of Champion Deadpool gear
Everyone one is saying this is gonna be the iconic Wong cameo but I'm putting my money on Ned.
Didn't the ancient one say in the Dr strange movie that a sling ring can take you anywhere in the multiverse? Or am I remembering it wrong. Maybe it takes more skill if possible 😅
It was Mordo, but you are right he did say it allows you to travel the multiverse
Nah you right. (It was mordo tho)
Yeah I think they just didnt keep track of the rules they set and every other writers lowkey changed it nobodys noticed
Feige defo been slipping holding all these directors together
It was Mordo but I think it was more a writers oversight then anything. Before the rules of the multiverse were refined
Idk in Dr strange 1 mordo said the sling ring travels thru the multiverse. It just takes alot knowledge. Aka the master Dr Strange!
God, I love this 4:20 part.🤩
If they’re at the void at the end of time maybe the portal is taking them to another point in the time line and they could technically go anywhere because everything is cannon now 🙂🙂🙂
It’s been implied/stated that sling rings are used to travel throughout the multiverse. We just haven’t seen it much. Just in what if when strange supreme (granted a particularly powerful sorcerer) uses a sling ring to summon zombies from another universe on top of ultron. So it can be done, meaning Ryan Reynolds and the Deadpool team wouldn’t be “breaking the rules” if they used it in that way.
I've never been more lost in a NR video than I was for that 10 minute Legally Blonde conversation.
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Mordo does say in the first Strange movie that sling rings allow them to travel the multiverse its right there in the first movie when we are first introduced to them
The portal scene is most likely in the end of the film, and they travel to the MCU universe.
I don’t think they would put an end scene in a trailer
Crazy thought, but what if it's actually Dr. Doom on the other side of the portal?
#1 no it's not. They would not include the climax scene of the movie in the trailer. That would be like if in the Infinity War trailer they showed Thanos snapping.
#2 As they discussed in this video, Sling Ring Portals don't travel between universes.
#3 It's not climatic enough to even be a final scene. Cassandra doesn't even care that they are leaving. If they were going to have a final scene of Deadpool and Wolverine escaping into the MCU with a portal, there would be way more stakes.
It will be Madisynn with Wongers sling ring who opens the portals.
Love your work guys, keep up the great work.
I’m hoping it’s Robbie Reyes (Ghost Rider) from Agents of Shield. IYKYK. Know a lot of people didn’t watch AoS. But that was an Easter egg that was never paid off.
Keep up the great work gang! 😊
Why are you so convinced it will involve endgame?
It wouldn't make sense
12:30 I don’t think so, because Ned wasn’t actively casting it during the fight on the Statue of Liberty, they were running and stuff and the portal was stayed open
I don’t think anyone has talked about the fact that if Deadpool and wolverine are in the void, that would mean that they were both pruned in the movie
You don't necessarily need to be pruned,there's the tenpad
@@essayhelp01 have we seen anyone actually enter the void using a tempad? I don’t remember.
@@jbarajasp no, we havent seen anyone come in using a tenpad but we saw morbius leave the void using the tenpad. So it basically acts as a gateway to and fro. I think the reason the tva agents never went there was because of alioth,they basically had no business going to the void
@@essayhelp01 I don’t think it has a way to get into the void. The void is inaccessible unless you get pruned, otherwise the void would be pointless entirely if people could just get in and out whenever. But it can act as a gateway to enter other places for sure.
@@jbarajasp i think it has a way to get into the void but I think the tva avoids it out of fear of being devoured by alioth
There was that Ravenger that could use the sling ring too.
Or maybe it's another case of agents of shield where Ghost Rider used his chain to open a portal to another dimension !!!
Love the commentary above the commentary? From 4:00-4:50?
Yeah it was so weird
I thought Wong said Sling Rings were how they travel the multiverse in doctor strange
The Ghost Rider from AoS could open portals between dimensions/universes/realities... and it was cool as hell.
Gabriel Luna’s Ghost Rider was cool! 💀🔥 he showed up, that would officially make AOS canon also! 😎
That Sling ring portal has to be when they jump into the events of Endgame battle when Wong opens up all the portals for all the heroes to appear and this is the perfect time for Ryan Reynolds Deadpool to come face to face with Thanos. If that's not the case then it has to be something surprising that they won't reveal until the movie's premiere. Also Cassandra Nova is allowing them to jump into the sling portal and purposely wants both of them to screw something up.
It's probably going to look so goofy tho, if that really happens, unless they actually interact with some characters that were there. But I fear that it will be as corny as the cw Flash doing time travel thing.
there's absolutely no way in hell are bumping into the endgame battle!
I believe Cassandra nova will have a sling ring an open so portal for them
4:59 I'd been corrected on that matter some time ago now
Has anybody else noticed there’s a VFX mistake??
While jumping through, in one frame part of the right leg of Wolverine is cut. Maybe that’s because this shot was altered and rushed to put out the trailer 😅🤷🏻♂️.
In the training sequence of the first Doctor Strange film, Mordo clearly says that the sling rings allow sorcerers to “travel throughout the Multiverse.” Therefore they should allow a sorcerer to travel to another universe, providing that he can “see every detail” in his mind’s eye. It might be helpful if Marvel stopped using the terms “dimension” and “universe” interchangeably. They’re not really the same things, and it can lead to confusion.
14:28 Ngl, I still wonder what it would've felt like if they kept the scene of Wanda killing the Sorcerers & using a decapitated body to fight the others.
It's probably better that they cut it bcos that probably would've made Wanda seem too villainous - I just think it sounds cool & creative lol.
Studio: “This is too villainous”
Also Studio: “In this scene Wanda absolutely annihilates some of the most powerful Marvel characters without breaking a sweat!”
That portal shot looks like something that may not even be in a movie.
I have a strong feeling it could be like the infinity war trailer when the avengers were running in wakanda
14:11 what if it is Madisyn just messing around with Wongers sling ring and opens up a portal to the Void??
May I say that I admire your journalistic process in New Rockstars (research, fact-finding, etc) and always acknowledging when the wild swings don't hit 👍😃👍 I think it's one of the greatest things about the channel.
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Let's Fricking Go!!!
Don't beat yourself up for getting anything wrong. Everything is hypothetical until we watch the movie. Still enjoy your channel
I corrected you on that video.
I’m happy you’ve corrected yourself in this video.
Those sling ring portals just took both spideys from the streets, not another dimension or timeline.
What if the whole portal is a deception, just put there in the trailer to fool everyone?
Supreme Strange used it in What if to summon the zombies from the zombie universe. So what mordo stated in ds1 is infact true but to be able to do that you must be op like supreme strange.
Temp pads have the same energy color as the sling rings, and as the other sorcerer magics, so maybe the temp pads tech is based on the sling ring and magics
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DAMMIT!! I thought it would have been HILARIOUS and a GIANT nod to Deadpools breaking the 4th wall; what it that portal was the duo jumping "into the MCU" quite literally. Or even jumping into the writers room!!
@makokiller13 I concur it makes the most sense in terms of saving the multiverse
@@swagswip3r If DP can't who can?!?!
I don’t think they’d do the writers room gag when they just did that it shehulk
You also have to consider the TVA portals!!
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No one cares what u think
@@DCWA11aw parroting what your mom tells u
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Maybe sling-rings can be used in any universe but only opens portals to its home universe/planet.
Sling rings can go to any universe
@Mjsports3730 your mom goes to any universe
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It’s definitely some kind of dark landscape because you can see part of the inside in another shot
I feel like in the film deadpool will say: “Now before you complain that this doesn’t abide by the rules of the MCU…”
Yea....something like "Well, the MCU now includes Deadpool, so all bets are off, now's where shit gets REALLY interesting!"
Options 1: they accepted a challenge and that is where Casandra said they have to go.
Option 2: they end up right back into the room they jumped out of.
IMO of course. We will see.
My question is, since Sling ring portals only work within the same universe that the spells casted from - How does it work in the Void which is supposedly out of all space and time?
Like, if its technically a centre point of all universes then any sorcerer could go in and out at will - equally if its in no specific universe then sling rings should only work if transferring to another location within the Void
What if they r using a more powerful sling ring that can open portals to different universe's
Let's f*cking go!!!!
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OMG 😱 Julion McMaughn is Dr Doom in the Void and he was in fact in the Super Bowl trailer. We were just too excited to realize it this whole time.
There have been plenty of times a sling portal was just left open though. Sorcerers don’t need to constantly make the hand motion to keep the portal open.
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Could be Ned’s sling ring. In the comics, Wolverine fights Spiderman and accidentally kills Ned. Maybe it’s a Ned variant (Hobgoblin) that’s been hunting Wolverine and then they jump from one “Oh shit” scenario straight into another “Oh shit” with emo Ned.
Indeed!!!!
What if this is more meta 4th wall type stuff and they are literally jumping into a plot hole, trying to correct something?
14:20 screen right is Wong chilling on a couch and Madisynn casting the portal
Sling rings have been said to be able to traverse the multiverse but would need to be “strong enough” to “see” the universe and place they’d be jumping to. I think this creates a “barrier of entry” that most sorcerers wouldn’t ever get to but the strongest of sorcerers like supreme strange and agamoto probably can.
I think it's a variant of deadpool which will be deadpool sorcerer supreme which opens the portal
the colours of this kind of magic can be unique to the universe the sorcerer is from, M.O.M for reference, so we might clearly be seeing a 616 sorcerer at work here, my bet is we are seeing a pruned 616 character or future moment that would be mirrored later and could feature America on the otherside and they're suddenly brought into a bigger problem/Villian and they handle their part of the mission but we only see their POV/part of the mission (like watching inifinty war but only Gamora's screen time or role in the movie)
What if Juan was with Deadpool wolverine and when they went through the portal, they just start going through bunch of portals like from different iconic scenes in movies and Juan just keeps casting more and more portals and they just like kind of run through all of them cause that would be so cool😃
Ned couldn't close his portal so you don't have to hold it open, it's opened, then it has to be closed manually
Can you see where they go by the reflection of there eyes so zoom in to there eyes to see where they go
Deadpool & Wolverine eyes
If Deadpool is the one too flick the glove instead of tony, he can’t die? Or can he but clearly….tonys body was still there, he could regenerate after the flick.
Alan Silvestri is the composer for Back to the Future and Avengers films so I'm sure if they wanted to use a medley crumb from it, it probably wouldn't be too hard to get. Ready player one used a small piece of it for the Zemeckis cube.
Interesting you're calling it a plot hole when you haven't seen it yet and don't know if it's actaully a "plot hole".
And not just Mordos quote but the book of vishanti, the dark hold, the one he was learning in what if?, ancient one, Wong and strange don’t know everything which is why there are so many spells they could learn in the books, the mystic arts plural
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It is a hero title jump, dp and logan team up with cassandra nova, and that scene is after the battle against the TVA where they won, thats why cassandra is smiling. The movie is all about dp and logan fixing/saving their own universes/being pruned by the TVA.
Are we sure they are not jumping out of GiantMan in the way they had all those way antman could kill Thanos theories?
The Ancient One says in Doc Strange I sling rings are used to travel the multiverse.
i was gonna say lol, wasnt it stated they could multiverse travel?
Why did your previous video get copyright strike from Fox?
@NewRockstarsWhat if the sling ring. Is from the universe so it’s linked?
I think that they are jumping into TVA, sling ring portal kinda looks like a proning from Loki series so I think that might work similar way
I think the wolverine with the suit is different than the wolverine he picks up at the bar honestly
❤😊🎉 OK before I make any comments later about this review I want to specifically say to you, Eric. You do a hell of a job you put yourself through the ringer to try to find any connection from a trailer to the potential big story picture you know for a fact, how trailers work how they will lead you down a rabbit hole where you want or not which is the whole idea to have people talking about what’s going on, so then when they go, they want to go see what is actually happening. I know they’re gonna come after you. It’s part of the job it shouldn’t be but they will but listen. It’s one of the reasons why I enjoy the channel and your reviews, you have a particular set of skills.😅😅 anyway keep up the good work by the way. Totally missing rogue theory. That’s one rabbit hole. I totally miss.
Forgive me for my ignorance. Does Forge have a sling ring in xmen 97? I saw he has the runes when he uses his powers. Is it possible to be Forge or someone like it? Instead of it absolutely being Dr strange, Wong or Ned?