Roland SPD-SX vs. Octapad SPD-30 // The Hybrid Drummer
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2019
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I very often got asked about the difference between the Roland SPD-SX and the Octapad, so I decided to record a video where I talk about both devices. Hope it helps you to decide which one you need.
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Thanks for cycling through the sounds quickly, very helpful!
Thanks for making this video :)
65 Drums thank you too! :)
Thanks man! It was really helpful! 🙏🙏🙏
Tamás Kórodi i’m glad, my friend!
Awesome demonstration ... Thank you very much ...
Great review! No filler or rambling
Thank you!
Your performances were amazingly groovey dude
Ja malico thanks! I’m glad you like them!
Amazing. Will eventually get both
That’s the best choice! :)
I love your videos, very inspiring 🤘👽🤘
2:55 - 3:30 what a trippy song
😂😂😂
wow the spd-sx is incredibly powerful!
many thanks! nice presentation
mario aranda thanks! I hope it helps
I would say I like both now I have both of them first I have the Roland SPD 30 the original color, the white one and now I already ordered the Roland SPDSX special edition, the red version. I order it at Guitar 🎸 Center . In Fountain Valley. California..
Hello bro which is the best pad spd sx or spd sx SE ? Plz tell me
They are almost the same, but the SE has 16 gigabytes of internal memory and it's red. Watch my detailed review about it.
ua-cam.com/video/o7HA0Wcr940/v-deo.html
@@TheHybridDrummer thanq so much ❤️
Thanks!
thanx man, helped me decide on the SX because i need those custom sounds in there! cheers
You’ll love it!
@@TheHybridDrummer thanx! did u ever try the alesis strike multipad? they have other midi drum sets that have crosstalk problems. but the strike looks even better than the roland to me, for some reason
@@tommyaudio Haven't tried but I watched reviews about it and I prefer the Roland
Can you use this to record live drums from an acoustic drum set with overhead mics. Then transfer that to a live show, wait for click track, then perform a set with guitar/bass)vocals, if you don't have a drummer to play a live show with?
Many thanks for a quick reply. I mean how to start from the beginning and what is needed to start enjoying drumming.
Enjoyed watching it, can you post a video for the beginners who want to start playing and some rough guide as to how to go about it with basic equipment and set up, please. Many thanks.
thank you! what do you mean exactly? I've just uploaded a video about the SPD-SX, check that out, it's a detailed review. Search for "Everything about the SPD-SX" here on UA-cam
You are very knowledgeable and I hope you would be able to answer my question about using the SPD-30 in a live setting. The issue I’m having is while playing acoustic drums with a band I want to add a percussion loop. I’m using a foot switch to use pad control. I play the pad for “tap tempo” to establish where I want to set the loop. After 4 or so hits I strike the pad to start a “loop”. This is where the problem is. It appears that the tempo is set. But the click starting point is slave to where the “tempo indicator light” is blinking. Disabling the the indicator light does not resolve this issue. In other words, the loop doesn’t start on the down beat most of the time. It’s off by a 16th or an 8th. Thanks for your thoughts
Hi! Before starting to record you are not using another click from a different source, right? You play without a click before looping. Do you have quantize on? Because that might pull your notes an 8th or 16th off
Can u do a tutorial on triggering on the aleis strike multipad...I've been having so many issues
Hi! Thank you for the great video! I was wondering if you do know the midi latency of the Octapad over USB midi? I'm trying to set up a hybrid drum kit for my band using trigger and microphones. I'm having issues with the SPD-SX because it has a pretty high latency (3.5ms). Thank you!!
Try to set the buffer size to a lower value, and the latency should decrease.
Can you record quantisation in both the pads (will it correct the timing for you when playing a loop?)
The octapad can record with the notes quantised, yes, and I think that's a great feature. The spd-sx can't record loops, only if you go to the sampling menu and with the perform and record function you record something that you play on one of your spd-sx kits, then save it and set it to loop mode. But that won't be quantised.
I hope it helps!
I was looking for more hybrid drumming info. You are fucking skilled and cant in wait for more videos. Could you do more on the SPD-SX I have been looking for information on what what more I can do.
I came here because of Roland V-Drums Facebook page video of you.
Every time I watch a roland spd sx video it's always someone playing a sample with house beats. I would like to see more of just the sounds without all the prerecorded music.
looks like the SPD-SX is much more valuable for what I need. thanks for the demo.
I'm glad my video could help you decide which one you need! :)
I have had the spd 30 for 10 years and still works like mint
Hi,
I would like to know your opinion. I hesitate to buy between Roland SPD- SX Sampling pad vs Roland Octapad SPD-30
My main purpose why I want to buy something like is, is to have something like electronic percussion set in my small studio in my flat - so for that will be better SPD 30.
But if I am right ,when I will buy SPD-SX I can upload into it different drum samples and I can play on it as on Octapad SPD -30
So if I will buy SPD- SX, I can use it as drum/percussion instrument and also as an sampler. So I will have 2 in 1. So I think for that is for me better to buy SPD- SX. Am I right?
Thank you
great comparison! You've helped me in my decision to get the Octapad since I'm a drummer living in a rental house and can't play my acoustic kit, so looking for more of a kit replacement. One thing I've been curious about though - how do drumrolls sound on this thing? Do they sound natural or do they get that machine gun digital blast sound?
Exploredinary it has kinda nice dynamics, similarly to roland v drums. if you are messing around with the sensitivty settings, you can adjust it more for your playing.
Hey man maybe yo could help me. I'm an accoustic drummer but I dont have my own kit and since I live in a small appartment I would love to have something to practice on at home that is not just a basic rubber drumpad.
I'm thinking of getting and SPD-30 or and SPD SX Pro - wither one of them with the KT-10 to play, practice and let my creativity flow at home. I can't really decide between both of them (money isn't an issue here). Which of these products would be better as a kit replacement for at home use? It's really hard to find any good info on that particular topic on the internet.
Hi! In this video I pointed out the main differences, so hopefully you already have a basic idea about both devices. As for a better practice experience I'd consider the choices between the Octapad and the SPD-SX PRO now, because the PRO let's you use a hi-hat controller too. I really liked the 2x4 pad layout of the Octapad, and the fact that it comes with a lot of premade drumkits for practicing. Personally I'd go with the SPD-SX PRO because adding my own samples is very important for me.
Here's my short review about it: ua-cam.com/video/mNEBooPgpMo/v-deo.html
@@TheHybridDrummer wow, thanks for the fast reply! Yeah I did watch your review on the pro version, you have some good knowledge. Is there anything (except for the looper_ that the Octapad has that you miss in the SPD SX Pro and the other way around?
@@TheMrLeoniasty besides the looper i’m not missing anything from the Pro that the Octapad has. The Octapad is more like a drum module so it works with more samples for example in case of a snare it’s not just changing the volume when you play louder but also varies the sample.
The Pro has more outputs which is a big advantage. If you can, try both for a few minutes and you’ll be able to decide. 🙌
@@TheHybridDrummer Thanks for your insight!
@@TheHybridDrummer oh, and what about the pad sensitivity of the octapad compared to the SPD SX Pro?
Bro, I bhought SPD 30 instead of SPD 30 version 2 by mistake, is it ok?
Great Video- Question- What pedals so you use on the SX?
I used two KT-10 pedals here
Earned a sub.+like! Thank you!
Thanks!
Thanks for the very clear review! I'm still undecided on which one to buy...maybe both! Also looking the Alesis Strike Multipad... one question, on the SPD SX, do you know how many layers the samples can have when sampling in external sounds? I know that the Alesis Strike only has 2 layer samples, so I imagine that when doing drum rolls it's gonna sound quite 'machine gun like'... is the SPD SX any better in that aspect do you think? Thanks again! :)
If you use the SPD-SX as a midi controller with Superior drummer for example, you can very dynamic samples with the software. As for uploading external sounds to the module it uses only that one sample and reduces and increases the volume according to your playing. It works well, but you probably won't get a drum roll as sophisticated as on an acoustic.
@@TheHybridDrummer Thanks for your reply! Ah ok i get it...use as a midi controller for better dynamics! So do you think the SPD30 octapad is better for a more realistic drum sound and feel then? Thanks!
@@ChrisDeJuanMusic It could be better, because that works with different samples for the different dynamics of the same sound. But you need to try and hear it with your own ears I think. That way you'll be able to decide.
@@TheHybridDrummer Thanks for the info! Yeh I'd def try them both out if I could... not sure if they are available in any of the main music shops here in the island of Tenerife where i live though... but I think i'm kind of decided on the SPD-SX now as I'm looking to use live backing tracks mainly... and as you mentioned, for a more realistic drum feel and sound it can be used as a midi controller with Superior Drummer... so that's really good! Thanks again!
Christian De Juan for backing tracks, you’ll definitely need the SPD-SX. I have a detailed review video about it, you can find it on my channel
I am looking to be able to make simple drum beats over songs that I am making with a guitar and bass (I am not much of a drummer and have very little knowledge on drumming). Which one do you think is better for recording into a computer, is easier to figure out, and has better sounds of acoustic drums? Is the Alesis Strike Multipad worth considering at all? Thanks
I would say the SPD 30 by Roland is a great option for you.
What cable did you use to
Connect it to your phone and to the sample pad to make your samples
SPONGEY CONTENT it’s a stereo small jack and two mono large jacks on the other side
Hi. I have a Handsonic 10 Roland. I just wanna know how can i use MIDI connection to Logic pro x, Sounvox or other programs for musical production. Is necessary a MIDI controller interface? I have a cable to convert MIDI/USB. I did the connection to my pc and nothing was happening. Can you help me with step by step or others solutions? There is nothing in youtube about this.
I don't have a Handsonic, sorry. but it has USB midi connection, so you only need a usb cable, into the port that says "computer" and you should have the connection
Thanks
Joaquin Ariel Estrada i hope i could help!
Hey, could you somehow plug a mic to the audio input on the spd sx to record and play live vocal samples? Wondering as you said any sound source, but there is no xlr input on the spd sx but maybe there is still a way. Thank you for this great video.
Hi! Yes, you can plug a microphone too. You just need a jack-xlr cable, and you have a gain knob to select between line or mic singal.
You need a jack-xlr adapter and set the level with the knob at the back of the spd sx
Hi. Can I ask you a question. How do i do for my SPD-30 to roll. It's like there's not enough bounce. I can't do triolet. Roll if you want. When I ajust my pad The Sensitivity is at +9 my velocity curve is at Linear and the Threshold is at O so why it not enogh sensible? I can't roll. Please help me. Thanks !!!
Those pads don’t have good rebound. Old spd-20 was better unfortunately.
Since ive had the money to expand my kit, ive always planned to get both. but I was pretty set on getting the octopad first due to the hi-hat controller.
now that the sx-pro is out with its own hi-hat controller. I'm wondering if I should get that one first.
I’ll upload a review about the SPD SX PRO soon, to introduce its features. It depends on what you need them for but the PRO is really powerful :)
Good morning,
Can I connect foot pedals to Octapad SPD-30 to use them as as a bass drum/hihat or double bass?
Hi! The Octapad can handle a bass drum pedal and a hihat controller too! The SPD-SX is not compatible with hihat controllers unfortunately.
Still rocking an SPD-8, it amazes me to see what you still can do with it if you couple it to a computer using MIDI
WIth MIDI you get endless possibilities! It's awesome. :)
I have have an acoustic double bass kit with full rack and am wanting to add an octopad to my kit for effects,but I'm a drummer so I'm not really tech savvy lol,what would be a good PA/Speaker to add along with this,I don't need stadium volume ,just something loud enough for the effects to be heard over the drums and guitars.
A Roland Cube Street could be good I think
nice video am greatly looking for hit hat and kick foot for the octopad
Thank you! With those pedals you kind of have a full electronic drumkit!
Oh man. I'm gonna have to get both 😬
That’s the best 🙃
Cool! I always want to know what sounds the spd 30 has it and now I know and I am going to get mine.
Thanks!
Cool!
Might be selling mine if you're interesting buying used. Not certain yet tho
Adam Bourque how much are you asking for?
Is one or the other better / easier as a MIDI controller for controller sounds within my DAW (Logic). Thanks!
If you use them as a MIDI controller, they are working the same way
I actually like the Octapads better.
What kick bass do you use?
randy heriawan what do you mean? The pedal? It’s a Roland KT-10
how do you configure or connect the hi hat controller? I have the same (fd8) and the sx does not read it
Unfortunately the SPD-SX is not compatible with hihat controllers, but the Octapad is
nice comparison,
if i only use drum function for real live drum (not sampling), can spd-sx do as good as spd30?
thx you
Yes! The only thing which can be better in the Octapad for drum function is the hihat controller option. The spd-sx can ot handle a hihat pedal unfortunately
What’s the pedal u r using
Vaibhav Srivastava It’s a Roland KT-10
1 question sir. Is their a stand for the drum pad If you buy the octapad kit? Or you need to buy a stand separately?
You need to buy it separately. It's the Roland PDS-20 that's available now, the best stand for these pads
@@TheHybridDrummer thank you so much sir for your response. I appreciate a lot! God bless! 😊
Great video Dude.How about comparing the SPD with the NORD that Gavin Harrison is using.
I don't have a Nord drum, I focus on Roland products, but I'm sure you can find reviews about the Nord too!
@@TheHybridDrummer Ya I'm a big Roland believer myself.
@@courtbeall7768 yeah, hybrid drumming is kind of my religion 😂
Is the Octapad SPD-30 capable of doing bell ride sounds?
Yes!
@@TheHybridDrummer Really!? I wish I could find a video on this! That's awesome!
Great video! Recently I saw a video on UA-cam with Jason Bonham playing with Sammy Hagar on Howard Stern and he's using the SPD-SX like a portable drum replacement kit. It seems to me that the Octapad SPD-30 would make for a better portable kit. Would you agree? I don't have a lot of space for an acoustic kit and I miss playing so I'm looking into something I can play in a small space. Would you recommend one of these over the other (or something else) to be used as a smaller, acoustic drum kit replacement? I'd like to plug in 3 pedals, one to be used for controlling a high-hat pad and two other pedals for double kicks. Doable?
@Wayne Louie
You probably already figured this out, but if a high-hat input is one of your requirements, your decision is easy because the SPD-30 has it and the SPD-SX does not.
Also, based on what you wrote, you, like Bonham, seem like an experienced acoustic player who is currently constrained from making real noise. How likely are you to want to load samples?
@@YouzTube99 Never say never but I don't see myself loading samples at least not right away. For or me the SPD-30 does seem like a better choice. However, since the time of me asking you about it I wound up buying the Alesis Strike Multipad but haven't had much time to use it. In fact, it's on the other side of California at my buddy's house. I was there and played one day, had a hell of a lot of fun with it and thought it sounded great. It has a high-hat input but wasn't able to get it to work... I think you need to go into the setting and create a group of high-hat sounds and assign it all to that output but I didn't have the time. Hopefully I'll have more time with it soon and see if I can get it working. If not I'll be trying the SPD-SX. Thanks for getting back to me!
As you mentioned the spd 30 has 600 and more built in sounds so what about the spd sx does it have built in sounds and if yes then how much ?
The SPD-SX comes with internal samples too, I don't know exactly how many, maybe about 100-150, I can check it for you tomorrow. But the main thing in the SPD-SX is to upload your own sounds to it.
@@TheHybridDrummeryeah please check and lemme know . Another question was that can we upload sounds to spd 30 or the new version 2 which was recently launched ?
Sir how to record octapad 's sound on mobile?
nilu sarkar you need a cable with a 4pin 3,5mm jack on one end (goes to the phone) and two 6,3 mono jack plugs on the other end (goes to the Octapad’s outputs)
One problem with this is it’s not so easy to set the proper gain, it can easilly get overdriven.
If you have for example an iRig, it can be better
I'm from the Philippines. I badly wanted to buy Octopad SPD-30, unfurtunately its not available here. Any recommendations for stores that can ship here?? TIA.
nice review btw.
Thanks! To be honest, I don't know where you could order it from, I live in Europe
@@TheHybridDrummer thanks for the reply tho. Stay Safe!
Hi, cool video. I am actually percussionist. I would like to make live phrase looping with my drums, that is, recording them and add layers on, kind of jamming, for example. What do you think i should buy better? Thanks in advance.
Antonio Fuentes for looping, it’s the octapad
Thanks. But could I record my owns drum with the Octapad, for example, live performance whereas i record by playing?
@@antoniofuentes I'm not sure what you mean. What instruments do you have in your setup?
No external instruments can be recorded in spd 30 except midi
Only onboard sounds can be recorded on spd 30 you can record them live
Does the Spd-Sx have active dynamics such as are found on the Spd-30? Anybody know?
Ariel TV it has dynamics, but it’s kinda just changing the volume of the one sample you have, but that works well. In case of the Octapad it used several different samples for the different dynamic levels. For example in case of a bass drum if you hit it harder you can hear more high frequencies just like on an acoustic bass drum.
@@TheHybridDrummer Thanks!!
Which one is good for DJing
John Oswald Palines the spd sx, because you can load music to its memory
can i compose a kit or a preset by choosing between the sounds you shoowed us at the beginning of the video ? (kicks, snares, toms,ecc..)
yes, you can create kits with any of these sounds. and you can also layer two sounds on one pad and edit them to create your unique sounds
@@TheHybridDrummer please tell me how ahahah. I only like 4 of the 99 possible presets
giulio malloni press menu, enter “inst”, hit a pad and start turning the right knob for exploring the sounds
@@TheHybridDrummer kinda too late: I sold my spd-30 and I bought a roland td15kv. Thanks a lot anyway
Just download the Spd-30 samples and trigger'em from your SPD-SX
Heber Sánchez the SPD-30 much like the TR-808/909 and TR-8 have active dynamics so every time it triggers the same pad the sound that comes out is slightly different so sampling one iteration of the note will not give you the same sound characteristics. That’s the secret to Rolands success in percussive machines
Wade B so you’re saying the Spd-sx doesn’t have active dynamics? If so That would be the main difference between these babies and nobody is telling it
Just to clarify, can the Octapad play multiple layers at once but the SPD-SX can't?
The SPD-SX can too. You can set a sub layer with a different sound on any pad.
@@TheHybridDrummer Thanks. What is the maximum number of layers each device can simultaneously play? Also, in regards to both devices, can I plug my guitar directtly into the device and loop what I play on the guitar live?
Both great machines! Apples and oranges in terms of comparison though
Yes, i stated this in the beginning of the video!
The Hybrid Drummer I know I was agreeing with ya
I want the pads and sounds of the Octapad with the features of the SPD-SX Pro
Yeah, that would be cool. Check out the SPD-SX PRO. That has everything the Octapad had except for looping
Can I use kt10 & Fd8 both with it???
With the Octapad, yes. With the SPD-SX only the KT10, it doesn't handle hihat controllers.
@@TheHybridDrummer Thank you very much
Where can I get these sounds as wav files to use in DAWs ?
Which sounds do you mean exactly?
@@TheHybridDrummer The ones in spd 30
@@SG-wl3cr those ones you’d need to record and then export as wav files
@@TheHybridDrummer oh ok but I don't own a spd 30, could you record atleast the indian sounds and send them to my email ?
Could you please email me your drum effect or accoustic drum sound for my spd sx? Thanks a lot
Daniel Magaline i use mostly electronic drum sounds on my spd sx se
Daniel Magaline but you can find many free sample packs online
So I take that the SPD SX doesn't loop 3 layers like the SPD 30 at 5:48
Yes, as I mentioned, looping is the Octapad’s unique feature
What bugs me about these instruments is that they all have just one (stereo) output, rather than one per pad. No post-mixing possible unless you are using MIDI only :-/
The SPD-SX has 2 stereo outputs and you can route the pads separately to to main or to the sub output. That gives you more options for mixing
Are you left handed bro? I am left handed .Would it be easy for me to play?
I'm right handed. You can definitely play these pads left handed too
Best is octaped 30
Bạn có thể làm video test tất cả các tiếng của spd sx được không?
I’m sorry, could you write it in English?
@@TheHybridDrummer Can you make a video to test all the sounds of the spd sx drum?
Sir how to octapad sound ricord in mobile plizzzzzzzzz
Dishant panchal what do you mean in mobile?
Can I create loop in spd sx?
You can find the answer in the video :)
And I have another video only about the SPD-SX where a lot of things are explained, check that out!
You just show the octapad for loop. I have spd sx but i dont know how create a loop on it sit
@@ianpalle You cannot create loops with the SPD-SX. Not as easily as with the Octapad. You can record your playing straight to the module and then use that as a sample and loop it, but for classic looping style you cannot use the SPD-SX
Hi.everydays, playing with this, fast changing of drums sets, cymbals , and more .....funs....this.are better.( first media for me.....ha ha.child 's love it.too
The most often question I get from non-people is..
Best pad spd30 and SPD SX which one is plz plz reply
Can we use loops on SPD 30?
Yes, watch this video from 5:12
Which is best
You decide which is better for your needs.
How to add wav format to spd30 sir?
Thanks
Dwi Rachmanto it’s not possible. The spd-30 doesn’t accept external sounds unfortunately. Watch my video called ‘how to use your octapad as a midi controller’ , i show one possibility to use external sounds with it
they go "the octopad has over 600 sounds built in" *proceeds to show us every single one of them, then goes* "man, theres a lot" yes u just said. over 600 of them lmao
😂😂
Compare the roland spd 20 and 20x plizzzzzzzzz sir request
Dishant panchal i dont have an spd20 unfortunately, but i think it’s not being sold anymore in the shops
Roland spd 30 is updated 20 is old model 20x is made just for India every percussion player in the world prefers spd 30
на русском есть вариант?
Can you write it in English please?
Spd Octapad 30 is better
My salutations to Roland Company.. Ours is India. I love musical instruments. It is an item that costs thousands of rupees to buy an outfit. These are the days when we can only satisfy our hunger if we work.. I sincerely request you to kindly provide us with one musical instrument pad on behalf of your company
It looks like a microwave Xd
Haha, which one?
@@TheHybridDrummer the octapad, from the top ;)