THEY MADE THE VIDEO PRIVATE. MovieFlame responded in a very educated and classy way, and they realized they were wrong. Glad they were able to see the error of their ways. Before they made it private the video had 9k dislikes vs 4.5 likes and 6k comments that were all negative. I hope they learned their lesson, hopefully now they’ll research better before bashing an amazing series with no merit to their statements
“Angstier than your angstiest adolescent” I mean...I imagine a kid who lost his parents, was abused his whole life, constantly got attacked, and treated like a joke when he tries to help might have a bit of baggage...
Throughout OotP, he's suffering from PTSD having been kidnapped and nearly killed and witnessed a murder, only to be cold-shouldered by his most trusted confidants!! He is given no support to get through any of that whatsoever!!
Causing pain to Bellatrix? Even if Harry's cruciatus curse had worked his action would have been pretty justified. Its not like bellatrix is a kind, sweet woman
The Take: *"Harry never gets punished for breaking the rules"* - Gets sent to the Forbidden Forest for breaking curfew. - Detention with Lockhart for flying the car to school. - Tortured by Umbridge for speaking up during class. - Suspended from the Quidditch team for getting in a fist fight. - Detention with Snape for nearly killing Malfoy. - As well as all the times he was punished by the Dursley's simply for existing.
@@parthvisharma5866 but the problem is Harry felt horrible about what he had done and i think that Snape WOULD NOT have care and be fair to also give Draco detention.
@@parthvisharma5866 and unlike Malfoy Harry had no idea what Sectumsempra did, sure he knew it would be bad but not unforgivable curse level bad. Meanwhile, Malfoy knew exactly what crucio did.
And that's even without all the times he got house points reduced, to the point where all of Gryffindor decided to not talk to him anymore for a couple of weeks.
Them citing him not paying attention in his first potions class as evidence that he's egotistical while showing the clip of him taking notes of Snape's speech (a comedic example of him being eagered to learn magic) is self parody
I think he was the only one taking notes (at least in the film) and that's to be commended and not mocked. Pardon my language, Severus Snape is a petty, greasy-haired, little bitch. God, it's so good to say.
I noticed that the second time I watched the movie, I was angry that Snape diddent even take a look at what he was writing diddent even think maybe he was taking notes 😤.
Exactly! They gloss over the fact that, despite who his parents were, Harry has been raised completely oblivious to the Wizarding world and has absolutely no knowledge of how that world works. He is clearly trying to learn when he is taking notes, but Snape is just too prejudiced by the bullying he received from James and his pals to be willing to give Harry a fair chance.
@@bonjour570 Rita makes rude stories but would never say anything nice about Hermione like The Take does. Umbridge is impressed by Hermione even if she doesn’t like that she’s impressed by Hermione
That is such a bizarre take because Harry is one of the sweetest characters I've ever read about. One of his most admiral traits is his ability to love and forgive. He even named his son after a man who hated him for existing, and it was not out of spite but as a way to honor him.
Dude Harry was mistreated by the Dursley’s and he still wanted to save them. That ain’t an anti hero. I’m glad that you chose to the correct the Take’s video on with facts.
You are right. He is not an Anti-Hero. An Anti-Hero does the right thing, but doesn't want to, nor has much interest in doing it. And they don't give a flying f@#% who dies in the process.
“But perhaps Hermione is the *truest* hero of the series” the Take says *as they show a clip of Hermione using the body-bind curse on Neville so that she and the others can break the exact same rules they accuse Harry of breaking.* Yeah, great logic there. (Note the obvious sarcasm, in case you missed it)
@Someone 333 It wasn't forever. But she did have them for at least a few years. I'm pretty sure she also had acne scars. Not permanent, but still pretty bad.
i swear of ALL the possible popular male leads they really went after the single BEST example of a "man written by a woman" with little to no toxic masculinity 😭 they really thought they did something
Harry went through so much hell so that he was depressed. That caused his temper outbursts. For me his major character flaw is the fact that if he hates someone he is unwilling to see bigger picture. Like he never asks himself why this man who hates him so much saved his life. I know it was convenient.
That's what I like about him even if he doesn't agree with what they say he wasn't mean spirited about it like other UA-camrs or reviewers or critics would be
I think we can all agree that the golden trio are very mature for their ages. When they were fifteen, they started a program to teach people how to protect themselves from Voldemort if he returned, and risked a lot trying to save Sirius while James and Sirius were bullying Snape at that age. And at 17 the three of them were literally trying to save the world while when Dumbledore was their age, all he could think about was finding the three hallows.
Things that harry did for other people: 1. Sticks up for Neville and goes after Draco to get Neville’s Remembrall back after Draco takes it. 2. Frees dobby from slavery. 3. Spends an entire book trying to solve the chamber of secrets mystery to save his classmates & friends from being killed or petrified 4. Goes down into the chamber of secrets with no regard to his own safety to save Ginny. 5. Goes after Ron to save him after Ron is dragged to the Shrieking Shack by Sirius. 6. Saves Sirius from getting the dementor’s kiss. Saves Buckbeak from execution 7. Spares Wormtail’s life. 8. Tries to reason with Ron when Ron gets jealous about Hermoine and Krum. Spends time with Hermoine when she is fighting with Ron, so she doesn’t feel neglected. 9. Forgives Ron for abandoning him after his name came out of the goblet of fire 10. Tells Cedric about the dragons even though Cedric is a competitor. 11. Almost dies trying to fulfill Cedric’s wishes and gets his body back to Hogwarts. 12. Hands over a bag of galleons to Fred and George and encourages them to start on their joke shop products. 13. Saves Dudley’s life during dementor attack 14. Starts up a secret club at the risk of getting in trouble, to help his friends learn how to defend themselves. 15. Goes to save Sirius in the dept of mysteries and tries not to let his friends follow him, for fear of their safety. 16. Pretends to give lucky potion to Ron to help boost his confidence in the quidditch match. 17. Goes after Hermoine to console her after she gets upset about Ron and Lavender kissing. 18. Saves Ron from being killed by poisoned mead. 19. Uses liquid luck to get what Dumbledore wanted. Gives the rest of the potion to his friends. 20. Shakes Dudley’s hand and forgives him for all the years of abuse and bullying 21. Encourages the Dursleys to accept protection from order of the phoenix even after how they treated him all those years, showing that he cares for their safety. 22. Forgives Ron AGAIN for abandoning him in deathly hallows. 23. Attempts to save wormtail AGAIN when he’s being choked by his own hand 24. Saves draco’s life 25. Literally walks to his death in order to save anyone else from being killed. 26. Forgives Snape for the years of abuse and bullying. 27. Forgives Dumbledore for not telling him things 28. Shows mercy to Voldemort and tries one last time to help him (by telling Voldemort to feel remorse so that he could repair his soul). The Take: HaRry TreATeD pEOple BadLY and IS nOT A rOLE mOdEL imagine saving your friends' lives multiple times, at your own peril, and having them say to you "you treat me badly". like damn, I would literally die for you, how much more do you want?? Harry tries to save even his enemies, this is ultimate hero quality. And let's just remember that Voldy is reason for pretty much all the suffering Harry had in his life. And Harry STILL didn't attempt the killing curse on Voldy in their final showdown. In fact, Harry doesn't attempt the killing curse, not even once throughout the whole series. Harry doesn't kill anyone in the whole series. Voldemort killed himself essentially, and ain't that poetic. Rowling was very clear in what kind of hero she wanted Harry to be. Even when Harry was at his worst point, which I would deem to be when Bellatrix killed Sirius right in front of his eyes, Harry still didn't attempt the killing curse. Yes, he tried the Crucio curse, but it didn't even work properly because his heart wasn't in it. Even at his worst moment when hatred and rage was so strong in him, that hatred and rage still wasn't enough to produce a proper Crucio curse. Meaning the good parts of Harry are still overwhelmingly present, even at his lowest moment. He couldn't bring himself to kill Bellatrix even at his lowest moment, even when goaded by Voldemort. edit: alright, if you read all the way through this long-ass comment, I hope you got as inspired by harry potter as I got! I know not everyone is going to read through all the other comments in this thread, so here are the other things people have already added in the comments: 29. saves Gabriel in the 2nd task of the triwizard tournament 30. forgives kreacher for betraying sirius and shows kreacher kindness, eventually turning his loyalty around 31. saves hermoine from the troll in philosopher's stone 32. treats luna well despite how other people treat her, takes her to slughorn's party, etc. 33. helps dumbledore get back to hogwarts after the horcrux cave incident (gives physical support) 34. forgives his classmates for giving him grief for being a triwizard champion and then forgives them AGAIN for believing the false propaganda of the ministry 35. asks fred and george to buy ron new dress robes 36. figures out a way to save luna, griphook, ollivander and everyone else from malfoy manor (using the mirror) 37. is the one to alert people that arthur weasley was attacked by nagini, thereby saving arthur's life 38. is noble and unselfish when he insists that Cedric take the triwizard cup together with him, to give them a fair tie for the tournament 39. saves Cedric from harm by the spider in the maze of the 3rd task. edit 2: yes, I know this was a long comment, and that has already been pointed out by many ppl already lol. So if that's what you want to comment about, there's no need to write that anymore, as it is just stating the obvious and gets repetitive. If my comment was too long for you, nobody forced you to read it 😊. And if the length is intimidating for you read, I'm not sure how you made it through all 7 HP books in the first place then lol. Anyway, for anyone reading this, I hope you are having a good day! I recently heard from my dad that he's starting to read the 5th HP book. He read all the books except #5 during the pandemic, he skipped that one cause I told him that one was the saddest darkest one lol, and he didn't want to be too sad. So he asked me to just fill him in on the major points of book 5 so he could skip it. But now he's starting to read it! His fav book was #4, Mad Eye Moody is his favorite character in the whole series. He was kind of pissed that the Mad Eye he knew in book 4 wasn't even the real Mad Eye lol.
@@bobbymiller8836 haha i appreciate it man, but its okay, no worries. I don't really care about the likes. And I type really fast and have Harry Potter like memorized, so it wasn't that much of a hassle ;)
Harry giving Fred and George the 1000 Galleons prize to start up their joke shop is the ultimate bro-move and I can never read that passage without smiling.
You should start a Channel like Morgan I'd watch you like just reading this comment felt like I was reading all the books all over again with a fresh amazed mind this comment feels like a video that Morgan makes!!!
@@Cici-lt1sq Dude that is so nice of you to say haha, I appreciate it! I can really go deep analyzing the merits of Harry potter and analyzing the virtue and morality of his character, so this is right up my alley😆. I definitely have considered making videos, but it takes a lot of work lol. And I feel like lots of videos on youtube have harry potter related topics pretty covered already. but thanks for your kind words 😊Harry is definitely one of the most forgiving, selfless and humble characters I have ever read, he really taught me a lot of virtue.
I don’t get The Take. In HBP, when Harry almost killed Draco, in the book, Harry was *on his knees next to him, almost in tears because he almost killed someone*
I really wish that in the film they also had Harry react this way to casting Sectumsempra on Draco. I thought throughout the half-blood prince and Order of the Phoenix, the point was that he didn’t want to be like voldemort. So he should react like how he did in the books to almost killing someone, instead of just standing there watching Draco writhe in pain
When the Take said that Hermione should have been the hero, it plays a clip of her immobilizing Neville, which if Harry did the take would include it as one example of him being cruel and bloodthirsty
It’s like they didn’t see the movies. They say he does cruel things to be heroic but then show a clip of umbrigde being taken by the centaurs wich was hermions idea. They say he snap at the people closest to him and show a clip of Harry snapping at Semaus for calling him liar. They say he often choose violence and shows a clip of him saving the man that murder his parents and turn him into the justices system, instead of taking revenge himself. Also they called Harry selfish and self centered like when he was 12 and thought he was dying in the chamber of secrets he wasn’t thinking about himself, he tries to comfort Fawkes and tell him he did a good job and Harry just wasn’t fast enough.
They also say he's dismissive of Ron's feelings in the goblet of fire, when it was Ron being a horrible friend because he was just jealous. Than they say Harry kicked ron out because in The Deathly Hallows putting them all in danger. Ron insulted Harry's parents deaths in that scene. And it was his choice to leave.
@@rhyswallace3590In the books Ron never actually straight-up mocked him for being an orphan, Harry: "Did you think you'd be back with your mummy by Christmas?" Ron: "I care about my family, I don't want them to die! (or something like that) But you don't have to worry about that!" insensitive, but not mocking Harry for being an orphan, but I guess the take only uses pieces from the movies as evidence so it makes sense you are too.
@@rhyswallace3590 Ron never said anything about his parents in the books. He was dismissive of Ron's feelings as much as Ron was about his. At any point in time he could have tried to talk to Ron but his pride and anger at him got in the way. This isn't anything but normal friends crap so this makes no sense in this video but he definitely was dismissive of him.
He did snap at his friends. A lot actually. Almost all of it was in the Order of the Phoenix. He went off on Ron and Hermione when he got to Sirius'house. He snapped on them up until he wrote the piece in the Quibbler. Ron and Hermione kept telling him to stop snapping at them as they are on his side. Book Harry and movie Harry are two different Harry's. He is all of the things they say he is (except proud of being the chosen one) just in short periods of time. He literally spent the first half (which was months) of the Deathly Hollows feeling betrayed by Dumbledore because a grown ass man didn't want to share his life with him. It's annoying and childish. Doesn't change how much I love these books but my god why does he think he deserves to know personal shit that others didn't want him to know? It's clear that the idiots who made the video have never actually read the books, which is way more important than never seeing the movies as the movies add and take so much away, but they were right about some stuff, just had the wrong reasons why and didn't back up their claims properly.
I’d also add Harry’s anti-Slytherin views is a wary bias vs. outright bigotry. His bully is Slytherin, his parents’ killer is Slytherin, his mean teacher is Slytherin, and when he saw Tom Riddle’s memory in chamber of secrets he empathized with him right away to the point of actually considering Hagrid being behind the attacks. It’s less “Harry is hateful” and more “Harry is cautious.”
Not to mention the slytherins made fun of Ron when he was on the quidditch team by singing "Weasley is our King" The Only slytherin harry liked was Professor Slughorn.
@@AhsokaTano1999and the majority of Voldemort's followers were Slytherins. Umbridge was also a Slytherin. And the Slytherins were mostly shown to believe in bad sentiments (think Mrs. Black and the horrible things she screamed to her son and the Order.)
Why the hell is that house is necessary in that school? (And let’s get out of the point of the literature’s point of view that needs negative side of a complete “body”, let’s call it that way)- what kind of realistic school would agree to contain a house such as Slytherin, that many of their students go out to be bullies, killers, racists, terrorists etc?
@@Godzillaminusone70ex, Andromeda Black. We can assume she was a Slytherin and yet she went on to marry a Muggleborn despite her family's beliefs and she was disowned for it
How to tell the Take never read the books: She would’ve mentioned Harry torturing Amycus Carrow as cruelty even when he was doing it , he was doing it in revenge for Amycus saying he’d have a couple students killed as a result of Alecto not getting Potter. However it’s still better than the Bellatrix example The Take used
On the topic of Harry being a 'typical' male hero, I gotta say he is a far better role model for young boys (and girls) than most modern day male heroes. And this was a story written in the 90's, where boys were still expected to be 'tough' and unemotional.
exactly! also the fact that Harry is a hero because of his sacrifice, and most male heroes that we see are heroes based on their brawn alone. harry is a hero because of his kindness and so many other traits that we rarely see anymore in heroes today
Harry Potter is possibly one of the most relatable, realistically-written, and likable series protagonists in the modern world and maybe even in history. He isn’t portrayed as a Mary Sue who is perfect and never acknowledges his flaws. He learns from his mistakes and acts emotionally in certain situations, like a normal human being. And we see him grounded in casual situations to build his character and still make him interesting.
The take forgot to mention that Harry is an animal abuser who stabbed an innocent snake with his sword...Btw, the snake was gay so Harry is also a homophobe. (Sarcasm)
😂😂😂😂 how dare a 15 year old who’s been orphaned, abused his whole life, shoved into dangerous situations every year, and seen people die be angsty 😂😂😂😂😂
@@sonnyfox8407 Actually, in the Order of the Phoenix, they remained calm when he yelled at them, and Hermione specifically tried to calm him down. He yelled at them for good reason, though. Anyone else would have been angry in his situation.
@@lukasr1166 Nah it was just bad writing. If the argument was that harry is bad because he's a man and Hermione is good because she's a woman then they would have set it up from the start. They just randomly mentioned Hermione at the end. Like they realised they had no conclusion so just started a new argument.
Hermione is the HERO But not the main character Cz hermione story isnt special as harry we are talking about the boy who lived And Hermione is intelligent which makes the story weird cz the main hero should be amazed by a new world honest kind brave Hermione just was a supporting actor
@@theflashgordon193 they can’t assume that people have seen that video though. They didn’t reference it or even cite it. They just randomly decided at the end to make a completely different argument and not back it up.
I'm not even a Potterhead but honestly the way they blame Harry for his impulses makes no sense to me. Everyone has dark impulses or subconscious desires sometimes especially when you're constantly put in life or death situations surrounded by abusers.
That "The Take" channel has rapidly gone downhill over the past year or two. It seems to coincide with that channel changing their name. Before that they were called "Screen Prism" (or something?) and they were actually quite good. Just endless garbage now though. I don't even bother watching their videos anymore.
@@mikespearwood3914 Yeah, they started off as a pretty decent channel with some pretty good analyses! I like a lot of their Breaking Bad videos. But once they started with the man-hating bullsh*t, I told them to go pound sand.
@@rachelrothraven8249 Yeah I'm female too, and what I don't understand is...the women in the The Take channel seem to think that in order for women to be heroes, or just stand up and do what's right, men have to kneel down. What the hell is that? Yes, Harry is the main character, the hero. And yes, a flawed human being, just like you and me. But do you think he would've succeeded in his life's mission if he didn't have Ron and Hermione? No freakin way! All three characters were crucial and each brought their own talents and charms. Why can't we just leave it at that? As a female, I NEVER have a problem with seeing a male hero in a movie or TV show. I actually love it.
The Take: Harry is evil, like voldemort and loves to cause people pain Potterheads: prepare to attack The Take: tell them I mean no harm! MovieFlame: I'm sorry, but I must not tell lies
Honestly, I love how Dumbledore made those mistakes. It really shows that despite being the powerful wizard around and everyone being afraid of him, he's a human too, and he makes mistakes. If Rowling made all of Dumbledore's decisions correct, it would seem very unreal
Yeah, I love how all of the characters in Harry Potter are actually realistic. I hate when authors make it seem like if you're powerful, it's impossible to make mistakes, even tho it's not. Even if Dumbledore is powerful, he's also human and makes mistakes and I love that about Harry Potter characters.
Also, Dumbledore can say "Yeah, it's my fault Sirius is dead, because you would NEVER have gone to the Department of Mysteries if you knew Voldemort wanted you to do that", but Harry has shown time and again that he isn't afraid to rush into danger. Case and point; charging into a field to chase Bellatrix Lestrange despite knowing damn well it was totally a trap. And why didn't Voldemort just apparate right there? You mean no Death Eater thought to touch their mark to summon him, as a signal that "Hey, Harry is here in the middle of a field, some good old fashioned fire magic will incinerate him completely. His main spell of "Expeliarmus" isn't going to do shit against that, plus you have wandless magic too Voldy. Get over here." I love the series, but that "Dumbledore Mistake" is total bs. Every single book has Harry charging off into danger with no one asking him to do so except in Book 3 with Buckbeak and Sirius subtly being suggested by Dumbledore.
@@feralphantom94 Ok for starters, that scene you're talking about was exclusive to the film. It never happened in the book so Harry's actions in that scene came from the screenwriter. I was always confused as to why they decided to add that in. And while it is true that Harry isn't afraid to rush into danger, he doesn't do it just for the hell of it. Every time it's because someone's in danger or he knows that something bad will happen if he doesn't at least try to intervene. For example the Philosopher's Stone - He tried talking to Professor Mcgonagall but she believed the stone was too well protected and ignored him. He couldn't expect any of the other teachers to believe him if she didn't so he, Ron and Hermione decided to go down to protect the stone themselves. Also the Chamber of Secrets - He and Ron went to Lockart initially to give him what information they had as they believed he would be going down to rescue Ginny, they hadn't been planning to go down there themselves. When they realized Lockart was going to run they dragged him down to the chamber to help rescue her but then Lockart's backfiring spell caused a cave in which not only made him lose his memory but also caused Harry to be trapped, alone, on one side of a wall of rocks with the only way forward being to go into the chamber.
@@feralphantom94 Except Dumbledore is right. The ONLY reason Harry rushed off to the Department of Mysteries is because he believed Sirius Black was in mortal danger. If Dumbledore had actually told Harry everything from the beginning, Harry wouldn't have had a reason to run off because he would have known that Sirius was fine and Voldemort was just baiting him. You ARE right that Harry isn't afraid to rush into danger, but that's what makes him the hero. It's because he will do whatever it takes to protect those he cares about; even if it means sacrificing his own life. It's because he values everyone else's lives above his own. There's actually a great quote from Team Starkid's "A Very Potter Senior Year" that sums up Harry Potter perfectly. It's Ron Weasley dressing down the other students after they ran Harry out of Hogwarts, "You guys wanna know why Harry always saves the school? Cause he doesn't wait for someone else to do it." Also, your "Harry running after Bellatrix after she burned down The Burrow" argument just shows that you don't actually understand the characters and the world at all. First off, none of the Death Eaters, Bellatrix included, would dare attempt to kill Harry Potter. Lord Voldemort has said, time and again, that Harry Potter is his and his alone. If they even tried to kill Harry, Voldemort would Avada Kedavra them without blinking. And Death Eaters are, if nothing else, afraid of Lord Voldemort above all else. Secondly, Voldemort wouldn't have been stupid enough to try to fight Harry. He knows he can't win. And you would know it too if you actually paid attention. The Twin Cores protects Harry, as shown in Goblet of Fire, and Voldemort knows it. That's the reason he takes Lucius' Wand from him and is so desperate to find The Elder Wand. He even says, in the movies, that he can't use his own wand against Harry because of the Twin Cores. As long as Harry had his original wand, Voldemort couldn't touch him and Voldemort knew it.
Okay, one, Snape didn't even try to properly teach Harry, just went straight into it telling him to basically "cope", two, Snape also told Harry to defend himself, so when Harry did protego literally that was him doing what Snape said, and Snape STILL got mad at Harry, so that was on Snape.
i thought Snape was kinda impressed with protego? like not happy but not angry by any means. in the films he's furious but in the book his memories are in the pensieve so it doesn't matter to him
Potterheads got so upset because let’s be real Harry’s a fucking lovable gem, and just too much bad shit has happened to this incredibly kind, loving kid.
I agree, but I still wish he had more personality, he just seems like a y/n sometimes. He does not act like a child who came from an abusive household.
His whole character arch is about how he didn’t choose his dads path of ego and took the path humility. Harry literally hates his fame because it make him closer to draco than Ron publicly, and the weasleys were the only family he desired to be a part of other than his own lost family 😭 ptsd makes you distant and aloof, not a villain
@@arlinesen1143 he def had PTSD after the events of the graveyard. I mean "nightmares is one of the signs of PTSD for veterans of war or people whom surived abuse.
@@PrincessofEllabur i actually like how that factors into Voldemorts attacks on his mind because most of his vision came in dreams so it could have been Voldemort influencing his episodes and kings cross could have been a source due to the large crowd
Voldemort: a cold blooded murderer since childhood, literally is never in a scene without killing or attempting to kill someone. Harry: Takes Neville's lolipop while invisible The Take: These two are literally the exact same person
Movie fan, book fan, you know that Harry is pretty selfless by 1. Taking on a possessed body by Voldemort 2. Saving an innocent girl's life 3. Changing time to save innocent lives 4. Taking on Voldemort (AGAIN) but, Voldemort has his own body with a group of death eaters. 5. Saw a dream about his godfather being tortured and tried to save him. 6. Quit school, just for the world's sake, and helps destroy a piece of Voldemort's soul. 7. Let's Voldemort use the "Avada Kedrva" curse on him for the better of the world. If you ask me, it's pretty selfless to do
Not to mention he literally saved Peter Pettigrew, the man who betrayed his parents and cost them their lives, from being revenge killed by Sirius and Lupin. And he would rather hang with outcasts like Hagrid, Neville, and Luna. And he freed Dobby from his abusive enslavement. And he warned Cedric, his competitor who was favored by the majority of the school, about what was in the first task. The second task, he waited around to make sure all hostages were rescued and then saved Gabrielle Delacour when Fleur never showed up. Then he tried to save Fleur from the imperiused Krum and wanted to tie for first with Cedric when he could've taken the cup and the win for himself.
@@kaylapounds1359he didn’t save Peter. He wanted him alive to take him to prison. so Sirus could clear his name and be free. Because Peter is the one that framed sirus in the first place
@@melonlord4606 Yeah this video's script sounds like if umbridge and Rita Skeeter wrote a UA-cam video script against Harry to convince muggles that Harry potter is bad
Besides that being unfair. Literally EVERYONE has some prejedcut to Slythrens. They got a bad reputionation to them. So naturally people are going to be weary of them. Since its even said in the first book "There not a witch or wizard who went bad who wasn't in Slythern." They simply have given the world a mindset they are all born evil. So its hard to overcome a bad rep when you've done a good job showing why you have it. That's why Slughorn is so imporant. To show that Slytren aren't all bad.
@@Kelseyalicia Harry is incredibly prejudiced against Slytherins. He didn't give it a thought that the heir of Slytherin could be a Gryffindor, Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw. (According to The Take, anyway)
What makes Harry Potter a perfect protagonist is because he’s flawed, and people (who are not a true Potterhead) forget that he was just a kid and kids can’t be suddenly all adult and mature just for the sake of the plot.. Every kid wants to be ‘the kid’, naturally at times he tends to enjoy his fame.. But what makes Harry great is his heart.. He always stands up for his friends, his family, he readily stood up to give up his own life to Voldemort to save others.. He knows he needs Hermione and Ron but he always will choose their safety first.. Best example of Harry being a mature person at the end comes when he gives up on the Elder Wand, the power of the Deathly Hallows because he already had everything he would need: friends and family..
I agree everything you said except the part about being a true potterhead. You can be one while interpreting the story differently, even if that interpretation is wrong.
@@rodan9773 Harry is a hero, no potterhead ever questions that.. You don’t wanna label him, it’s good.. But some do, so those some need to understand why he is the way he is and what makes him so likeable as the main protagonist..
@@parthvisharma5866 Not like he was saving the world every day/night but I get your point lol.. Besides, after defeating Voldy, he lives a nice life (if anyone mentions the abomination that’s the Cursed Child, I’ll kill ‘em)
Harry Potter is neither a villain nor anti-hero. He’s a true hero! That lady forgot that Harry sacrificed himself to protect his friends, family and to the entire wizarding world from the most dangerous and sadistic tyrant in history. A true hero is measured by the strength of his ❤️.
Hey i would like to know do you think we should get a last story with harry potter facing off a new villain and then ends his story and then give a new hero a time to shine
I completely agree and he was 17 when he chose to give up everything and walk to his death purely for the greater good, some could say he let people die for him but choices had always been the deciding factor whether that being Harry's house or becoming a homicidal maniac (Voldy) choices led people to take their role within the battle meaning Remus, Tonks ect. To say that Harry is anything less than than a hero that was entitled is stupid, I mean the kid had no moral guidance but it shows that in the 10 years of living with the Dursleys he managed to have qualities about him though the influence he got was no way near to being kind or fair that video he counter argued has made me so mad, sorry for ranting things you probably already know 😂😂
When these movies just came out my parents didn't want me to watch them. They thought that the movies were dark and evil, that magic is anti-christian, etc. I've always been of a mind to be a part of the world I live in, regardless of preconceived notions... and after watching the first four movies I remember a conversation with my parents: "It's not about the magic, though. It's about friendship."
10:10 you watched a peer die in front of you, watched your mortal enemy come back to life, fought him only to have the government and a lot of your peers gaslight you by telling you that you're a liar and an attention seeker. Who wouldn't be angstier than your typical teenager?
I got seriously angry when they called Harry egoistic because the one of the many things about him I liked is his modesty even though his extraordinary perfection. I cannot imagine one being more modest than this.
I just read the chapter where Hermione and Ron suggest to Harry that he should teach defense against the dark arts in Order of the Phoenix, and Harry completely humbled himself (Though he was speaking the truth) that he had a lot of help and got lucky in a lot of circumstances. Seeing this immediately afterwards talking about Harry's swelled ego is hilarious 😂
Ha !!!, The lady from the take, make Rita look like a saint.😂😂😂😂 Edit:HOLY COW !!!!,24 LIKE on that comment alone, Potter heads really don't like people talking trash about the books that much😂😂😂😁
When you make Rita Skeeter look like a real journalist when the only actual piece of journalism she ever wrote was a piece on George being at the 2014 World Cup with his family
"He breaks the rules and gets away with that" Yeah, like that one time in the beginning of order of the phoenix when he did magic infron of Dudley and lied and it was to defend himself and Dudley against dementors and everyone in the ministry belived him... wait
Okay that is stupid ! UMBRIDGE LITERALLY SCARRED HARRY FOR LIFE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY AND MULTIPLE STUDENTS.ITS LIKE THEY ONLY READ THE FLAWS ABOUT HARRY AND NOTHING ELSE
Oh yeah, and let's not forget Hermione didn't do anything either, yet they propped her up at the end. And let's not forget it was HER idea to lure Umbitch out there in the first place, which the Take DID conveniently forget.
Adding to the point about Colin’s photo, when he shows it to Harry later, Harry is pleased to see his photographic self making every effort to _not_ be in the picture, eventually managing to make his escape from photo!Lockhart and walk out
There are 3 things I can tell about The Take lady just from her points: 1. She hasn't read the books or at the very least read them once and has forgotten it all for the movie versions. 2. She doesn't like men. (Her claims of harry being the "typical male" and saying Herminone is the true protagonist without actually having a valid argument for either claim make that clear). 3. Her video was either made for massive clickbait or she was told to make a video with that title and had to find "evidence" to back it up
@@padmakrishna3955Nonono, this is the longest comment u have ever seen? I personally, have seen a full essay (I’m serious I’m not joking) about the summary of a thing or motivation and it’s crazy I’ve seen like comments-0x the size of this lol 😅😂
I used to really like "The Take." They've actually done some really great HP topics, including one on Hufflepuffs that I still re-watch. But the past few months I've found them getting increasingly ridiculous in their "takes." It's like they sit around now and actively wonder what's the *worst* take they can come up with, and then pursue it without more thought. It's frustrating to see a channel with such a strong female presence - which is really needed - descend into nonsense. Thanks for this rebuttal, it was very, very good.
I agree. I think they've made some good videos - but they are making too many nowadays and their hooks are getting more extreme. Perhaps they are desperate to increase their viewership, but I stopped watching them a while ago because of these changes.
Agreed. For instance, they were so desperate to praise Bridgerton with its forced diversity that they brushed off the rape scene as "problematic sexual dynamics". And that is a feminist channel! When they revealed that the "villain" is a jealous, fat girl, I thought that they would complain that it's bad representation, but they found it perfectly logical. They were so busy defending and praising the show that they just brushed off issues they would complain about in other circumstances.
I agree. I used to really like their videos. Some made me look at the work in an entirely new way but they’ve just become really biased and ridiculous.
4:57 also in Goblet of Fire he said "Fine, if Ron wants to be famous so he's just jealous and avoids me, we can change places, I hate being famous" sort of way to Hermione
I'm a huge fan of the book "Order of the Phoenix." It's not Harry at his most likable, but it's Harry at his most understandable (based on my own experiences as a 15 year old in boarding school).
exactly! Harry is so well written and OOTP really shows him at his most relatable teen self because his anger and frustrations are exactly how any teenager would feel in his situation
@@johnsantspree1120 besides if these characters start out as being perfect and fulfilled, there be no reason to follow their story, they be boring protagonists.
@@sophieh.4097 Same. I see the end of the Goblet of Fire as the transition from the fun magical world to the dangerous world that the 14 years of letting their guard down throws them completely off guard. Order of the Phoenix does the best job with his character. Its when the hero is at their lowest point that really proves how strong they are, and this was that. The whole world is against him, he's being tormented at night, and anger keeps building in him, partly due to rage at the outside world, and partly because Voldemort's signs are showing in him with the connection of their minds. The book also did the best job of showcasing emotional development for Harry specifically. Yes, I would agree that the Half Blood Prince does this best for everyone else, but for Harry, this is where he grows up. The whole book things get worse and worse, as he tries to uncover what on earth is going on that nobody will tell him as Voldemort torments him, Umbridge and Fudge make his life insufferable, and the only way he can stay standing is by teaching his friends and students in secret. He's terrible at relationships, and the Order wants to use him but make not involve him. They say they care about him but its only really one way. Its fear and attachment, not love. Sirius is the only one who actually is open with him and he's Harry is the best way, but ultimately, he meets his fate, partly because of Harry, but mostly because of Dumbledore. Its the fatal flaw in Dumbledore, despite everything he emphasizes about love, he doesnt understand what love truly is. And in the end, he realizes that his relationship with Harry was possession based in fear, not love, which wouldve been to let Harry know the danger he was in and prepare him for it. They had every opportunity to help Harry but didnt because they were afraid of him or more specifically his connection with Voldemort. In the end, everything Harry was searching for, trying to find an answer, if not about Voldemort, than about himself, was known by the Order the entire time. After Sirius's death he's near suicidal, and the scene in Dumbledore's office is his breaking point.
I mean Harry did almost die last year and watched one of his friends die, also compiled with all the abuse he faced with the Dursleys, I thought he wasn't angry enough, but showing him as someone who kinda just snapped, as a character it makes him so much real.
It’s like they forgot he was a kid, an abused kid, a traumatized child that is set up to die and if he doesn’t, all his living loves ones die. He wanted to be a normal kid, literally was his deepest and truest desire, to get a family that love him. He was 17 in the final novel, a child solider, and a victim of war. He didn’t know his name till he went to school and the teachers realized he thought his name was “Boy” cause that’s all his aunt and uncle called him. He lived under the stairs. Till he was 11. He was depressed and got some forms of ptsd as the story went on and he witnessed more and more horrific things. And we do not support Snape. Snape is literally a child’s boggart, a child who lost his parents to insanity through torture and is belittled by his grandmother for not being like his father and constantly a subject of bullying by classmates. Yet Snape, a PROFESSOR, is his biggest fear. And Snape in the novels looked into Harry’s memories, not just what was in the movie, but part of Harry’s abusive childhood and than went on to ignore it but rather be mad at Harry for accidentally looking into Snape’s mind as he used a defensive spell because he didn’t want Snape seeing his childhood. And Dumbledore’s “greater good” thing literally led to Sirius’s death, aka the last of his guardians/parental figures. I love The Take but they were so embarrassingly wrong here it’s as if they didn’t actually watch or read the story.
They would've remembered it if Harry was a girl, I promise. Watch any other video on their channel. All they talk about is how EVERY single male character is bad and how women are impeccable unicorns🙄😂😂 They don't understand character development, arcs and the fact that every person has some flaws
@@clairem391 Yeah, the whole "boy" thing is fanon. The Dursleys do say the name "Harry" occasionally. (That is not defending them in any way. They're still awful, awful, people.)
I have to wonder if the original video was meant as a joke. I don’t think anyone could get this so wrong accidentally. Unfortunately, the internet in the last few years has removed humor from everything and it is far too easy to see nefarious intent in things we don’t like. Great review movie flame!!!
Considering they deleted it after I made this I don’t think it was meant to be humorous. More click bait than anything else to get themselves more views for the wrong reasons
An anti-hero can still save the world, it's more of a difference on how to achieve a goal, they are more on the gray/dark spectrum. But at the end Harry is a bona fide hero, just because Harry is a human being who is flawed like everybody else and sometimes doesn't act like a hero should doesn't mean that he is an anti-hero, heck, a lot of HP was exactly people being upset about Harry not meeting their expectations in a certain way.
About Harry not wanting to put anyone in danger in Book 7 when the Trio was trying to get ready for the Horxcux Hunt, didn't Hermione say something like this "you asked us to turn back a long time ago, we're with you for good"? It's in book 6 actually when Harry's saying he's not returning to Hogwarts the following year. Ah.. found the line I was looking for: "You said to us once before,” said Hermione quietly, “that there was time to turn back if we wanted to. We've had time, haven't we?"
The Take: Harry sucks cause he’s a male. Hermione rules and should’ve been the hero because she’s a girl. Harry: You know, My wife Ginny is the most badass female in the entire series and was done horribly dirty by the movies. Why can’t she be the hero?
The people who say Hermione should have been the hero, clearly don’t understand the point of the series. Harry is a regular kid, not some protege for a reason. It’s why the story works so well and has such a great message. Hermione works well as a supporting character. If she was the main character we would basically be watching her freak out over exams and studying all day. Harry was the character that was curious and rebellious, that didn’t just trust authority figures, and broke the rules. So it made sense that he was the main character.
Snape knows who petunia is and the hate she had for Lilly, he thinks they treated harry like dudly. Snape became his father, a bully. (At least I think that's how his father was).
"The take" used to be called "screenprism". And it used to be a critical analisis on characters archetypes and storylines. For example, their Mad Men videos are spot on. But ever since they changed the channel, their focus lies on trying to be edgy and go against the current, trying to villainize main characters by picking and choosing what fact is convenient.
Yeah I used to watch all their archetypes videos but somewhere along the line they started to project their personal political/ideological biases or as I like to call it, modern Tumblr talking points/hot takes. I think this slowly started to show after their How I Met Your Mother videos were finished. The videos after those had hints of this and after a certain point I can't precisely zero in they went full politico/idiological.
Yeah, that's been my experience with them too. I use to look forward to watching their videos because I found them from their critical analysis videos but then it appeared they went downhill. Clearly I'm not their preferred audience since they continue to make the videos. Oh well! To each their own.
In year 5, when they're first forming the DA, he tells the group his accomplishments were mostly luck and he almost always had help. He wasn't being remotely arrogant. He didn't want to teach because he didn't feel qualified.
You forgot to mention how Harry rejected the Elder Wand. He had the most powerful wand in existence in his hand, and he chose to give it up. That to me is the most heroic thing Harry ever did. An even slightly less than pure hero would've been corrupted by that kind of power.
Also for Harry accidentally hurting Draco, in the book you can see that Draco was about to use Crucio on Harry. Harry’s first reaction was to use the spell he had been looking at non-stop for months. Even though he didn’t know what it was. And after he still felt sorry for using it
The whole belatrix point makes no sense in my mind, SHE KILLED THE CLOSEST THING TO A FATHER THAT HARRY EVER GOT, he had a right to be pissed, also I want to add that the comment about Harry being a typical male was very sexist and now I’m mad Edit: the take’s video looks like it’s made by a 2 year old
Bellatrix is glad Harry didn’t wanna actually harm her cause if he did her ass probably would’ve died but luckily Harry isn’t that type of person couldn’t be me tho she would’ve been dead
@@conserztasfia0078 exactly and even when he was tempted he couldn't get himself to actually harm her (you know the woman who just killed his only remaining family) if that doesn't show his good nature idk what does
Can you even imagine how boring the books would have been through Hermione's perspective? The entire first 10 chapters would be her reading a big ass book and the others would be internal narration about how she knows everything, then when you get into a proper action sequence, she starts freaking out and doesn't know what to do.
I totally agree with you. The only things that would've made Hermione's perspective intertesting are conversations with Ron that she has when Harry's not around.
Hurry saved hogwarts when he was like 12 He's save the world before he was legally an adult or legally allowed to drink Save the world before He was allowed to have alcohol He's save the world Several different occasions And he's Not a great guy Maybe harry should release voldemort and let him attack this person
9:32 in the play HP & The Cursed Child, Cedric’s Dad says “how many died for the boy who lived?” and later on in the play Harry repeats this in TEARS to Ginny because he’s so distraught over it, as he tried to keep so many safe.
If you were by a lake and a sign said “Do not swim,” but there was a person drowning in that lake, what would you do? Follow the rules? Or save their lives? (And yes, I am in challenge and learning to write persuasive essays lol)
Ok, well, I was mostly just copying Andy Griffith lol, and if they're way far out in the lake, you may need to swim a bit out, especially if they're DROWNING.
All the characters: thanks for saving Ginny Harry! She would have died otherwise! The Take: is no one going to tell him off for going into the girls bathroom? :(
I’m sorry but to call Harry Potter a villain or anti-hero to a HARRY POTTER FAN is like throwing a knife in their heart. HARRY JAMES POTTER goes as one of the greatest fictional heroes of all Literature. He endured more than the average person in a lifetime just within the first part of his life. To me that video gives me the impression they didn’t even read the books. Hell I didn’t read the books until last year, I grew up watching the movies and it is clear as either way you know Harry Potter that he is a hero. The fact that he was willing to die many times for others shows how he is a hero. I know that there are many definitions of a hero but to me a hero is someone he is willing to do the greater good for others and give hope to them. I’m sorry but I feel offended to almost bash a significant part my childhood. Harry Potter forever will be a hero, that channel can go somewhere
To be fair, his parents were murdered by the most powerful dark wizard ever, he survived something everyone assumed was not survivable (the killing curse) by means of ancient magic, and then spent 11 years being abused by his relatives before being plunged into fame and realizing the truly horrible way in which his parents died. Add to that the fact he was pretty much never left alone about it, or any of the strange circumstances going on in books/movies 1-5, including outright bullying and shaming from many of the other students on occasion, and that’s more than most sane people could handle. Harry takes it though, and let’s himself be strengthened by it all in the end. I’ve never interpreted any of his arguably selfish acts in the series to be selfish outright: sometimes he just wants some room to breathe, and I don’t think anyone can begrudge him that.
There is such a thing as the typical cliche “male hero”. You are just fragile. There is also something called a “Mary Sue”. You people are so sensitive it’s pathetic.
"The Take" sounds like they heard like bits of the story from other people and just made a video about it, without reading the books or watching the movie
@@madapigi1 That's kinda... prejudiced. There are many people in the fandom who are sorted Slytherins and they are so sweet. Yeah, JK hated Slytherins and that's why they are hated by many. But really, they aren't that bad. I mean, the series was in Harry's point of view and Gryffs and Slyths are rivals so the light shone upon only the meanies. We haven't ever read an actual just kinda random conversation between any Gryff and a Slyth who wasn't tormenting Harry or wasn't in the Draco circle. So I don't think Slyths are so bad even though I am a proud Gryffindor.
Harry potter is literally a teenager whose parent's were murdered into from him,protecting him and he mysteriously he was the first person to the survivor the killing curse and he was abused by petunia and Vernon dursley and getting bullied by his cousin constantly also getting bullied and left aside by classmates so many times and he still was really kind, tried to help as much people as possible even risking his life and well-being and was ready to face death to protect everyone else not caring about himself.he is a very good hero and Very selfless.Also let's not forget that HE IS A TEENAGER he makes mistakes and it's normal.also harry did got punished for the the things he did in hogwarts and the only time when he hurt someone is in the sixth book,the half-blood Prince when he used sectonsempra(if that's how you write,i mean Snape's spell.)on draco malfoy but in the book draco was about to use crucio on him,a forbidden/illegal curse and TORTURE HIM, Harry just acted impulsively while trying to protect himself in a moment of panic.also yes tom riddle and harry potter are two sides of a coin's but because harry has a piece of tom riddle soul otherwise they are completely different,tom/Voldemort is a complete psychopath and was born under a love potion & couldn't feel emotions and harry potter was just a victim to a war AS BABY/KID.
What I got from the take was “Male hero oh no we gotta shit on him and point out how he’s the real villain while one of his best friends the girl should’ve been in charge”
It's not just this video, The Take is generally pretty sloppy. And they have a clear bias toward any male main character. When you mentioned the part where they wanted to make Hermione the main character instead I was like, ahhhh, there it is.
Claiming Harry is a bad person because he is just a typical male, it literally triggers me.I have suffered with; 1: Depression. 2: Anxiety. 3: Panic Attacks. 4: Autism. (Which Is More Common In Males) 5: Suicide Attempts. And The Cherry On Top; All, and I do mean ALL, Men Are Told To Bottle Their Emotions Even Today. It's not an easy life being male. :( Edit: Sorry if this came across as rantings.
I like how the Take assumes that Harry has no feelings whatsoever to Bellatrix literally killing the closest thing to a parent. As if he wouldn't want Bellatrix to feel the extreme emotional pain he has suffered for 5 books. And yet he only causes Bellatrix a split second of pain.
I can come up with ONE negative thing about Harry's personality; he's reckless/impulsive and naive. This however, is what makes him a believable character, because EVERYONE has flaws. And it's not like most people tend to carefully think things through while under pressure now, is it?
@@auronnyagangopadhyay7104 Harry was made a horcrux the night his mother died. Voldemort destroyed his own soul fragment when he tried to kill Harry. Harry saved everyone in Hogwarts because he sacrificed himself for them, since Voldemort used Harry’s blood to resurrect himself, so long as Voldemort lives, he cannot kill any of the people Harry died for.
THEY MADE THE VIDEO PRIVATE. MovieFlame responded in a very educated and classy way, and they realized they were wrong. Glad they were able to see the error of their ways.
Before they made it private the video had 9k dislikes vs 4.5 likes and 6k comments that were all negative. I hope they learned their lesson, hopefully now they’ll research better before bashing an amazing series with no merit to their statements
Why does this have 4 likes? Did movieflame just pin this?
@@emberphoenix5618 haha probably
Man I wanted to read the comments on their video.
No dislikes no more
Sounds more like they're sorry they got caught.
“Angstier than your angstiest adolescent” I mean...I imagine a kid who lost his parents, was abused his whole life, constantly got attacked, and treated like a joke when he tries to help might have a bit of baggage...
Not to add that in the fifth book, he was dealing with the *trauma* of cedric's death and then being isolated in an abusive household
Exactly! Any kid in his position, boy or girl, is going to have A LOT of anger inside them.
And also he had the burden of fame. He was tasked with killing the most dangerous wizard ever.
this is literally how you create a serial killer/ incel
@@zurzakne-etra7069 what do you mean?
Saying Harry is an antihero is just gaslighting and trying to be controversial for clicks. It's honestly an insult to anyone's intelligence.
What next, Umbridge is the best teacher ever?
@@Otterwriter245 if they say that they won’t be human anymore
Its just for the clicks. Surely he had made some bad decisions but nonetheless he is a hero.
Using the word gaslighting needs to go
That's not what gaslighting is. They're not committing emotional abuse by saying Harry Potter is an anti-hero. What the hell.
This feels like a take on the series through the eyes of Dolores Umbridge.
Yep, and Snape and late-series Fudge
Or Rita Skeeter.
@@Mateliarae definitely Rita 😂
@@Mateliarae this is facts lmao 😂
Probably Rita and Dolores
“Angstier than your average adolescent”
“His selfishness might seem normal for people of his age.”
Have you ever spoken to a teenager?
Honestly tho
Additionally he was horribly traumatized and trauma can make someone act more aggressive and hot-headed. So like...
Me as an 14 year old: maybe i am selfish
His anger was because of his PTSD
Throughout OotP, he's suffering from PTSD having been kidnapped and nearly killed and witnessed a murder, only to be cold-shouldered by his most trusted confidants!! He is given no support to get through any of that whatsoever!!
The take: Harry is selfish
Harry: literally dies to protect everyone
EXACTLY!!!!!
The Take: Harry is kind of the bad guy
Harry coming out of the forbidden forest in DH: I LITERALLY JUST DIED FOR YOU AND YOUR SINS
Honestly, what protagonists aren't selfish to an extent?
Ikr he did that to save his loved ones and his friends and his SCHOOL and even his enemy’s
THANK YOU!!!! How are you selfish if you die for everyone not knowing it will work? They are haters.
*points my umbrella at The Take* "Don't disrespect harry potter in front of me"
if Hagrid saw this then he'd already cursed the take
Sorry about that chill out dursley you great prune
@@christopherbzowski4346 this is hagrid
TRUEEEEE
*agrees and pulls out Rocket launcher, then also points it at The Take*
The Take went full Daily Prophet on this one.
Order of the Phoenix all over again.
more like full Rita Skeeter
@@rebekahstramel true
Agree
That is so applicable it’s utterly insane.
Causing pain to Bellatrix? Even if Harry's cruciatus curse had worked his action would have been pretty justified. Its not like bellatrix is a kind, sweet woman
Bellatrix literally carved mudblood into Hermione’s arm 😭😭 I can’t believe the whole attitude of this video.
And she killed Sirius moments before that moment so yes he does have a justified reason to use it even if he didn’t fulfill it completely
@@ToyStoryboy2009would've been real nice to see in film tho just saying...
@@Girly_Plopalso she literally killed his godfather moments before that, and he still couldn't feel enough hatred to hurt her!
Yeah exactly, how many people has Bellatrix used the cruciatus curse on
The Take: *"Harry never gets punished for breaking the rules"*
- Gets sent to the Forbidden Forest for breaking curfew.
- Detention with Lockhart for flying the car to school.
- Tortured by Umbridge for speaking up during class.
- Suspended from the Quidditch team for getting in a fist fight.
- Detention with Snape for nearly killing Malfoy.
- As well as all the times he was punished by the Dursley's simply for existing.
wow, someone that actually read the books, most people dont read the books and will leave out Harry beating the crap out of malfoy in OotP
@@astrobuck7023 and his quidditch got banned, but i was actually very satisfied when he and george beating malfoy up
@@parthvisharma5866 but the problem is Harry felt horrible about what he had done and i think that Snape WOULD NOT have care and be fair to also give Draco detention.
@@parthvisharma5866 and unlike Malfoy Harry had no idea what Sectumsempra did, sure he knew it would be bad but not unforgivable curse level bad. Meanwhile, Malfoy knew exactly what crucio did.
And that's even without all the times he got house points reduced, to the point where all of Gryffindor decided to not talk to him anymore for a couple of weeks.
Them citing him not paying attention in his first potions class as evidence that he's egotistical while showing the clip of him taking notes of Snape's speech (a comedic example of him being eagered to learn magic) is self parody
how is he egotistical he’s so humble tf
@@rat5800 he was super embarrassed in flourish and blotts while being with lockfart
I think he was the only one taking notes (at least in the film) and that's to be commended and not mocked. Pardon my language, Severus Snape is a petty, greasy-haired, little bitch.
God, it's so good to say.
I noticed that the second time I watched the movie, I was angry that Snape diddent even take a look at what he was writing diddent even think maybe he was taking notes 😤.
Exactly! They gloss over the fact that, despite who his parents were, Harry has been raised completely oblivious to the Wizarding world and has absolutely no knowledge of how that world works. He is clearly trying to learn when he is taking notes, but Snape is just too prejudiced by the bullying he received from James and his pals to be willing to give Harry a fair chance.
It's almost as if Dolores Umbridge wrote that script for The Take.
No, It was Rita Skeeter
Or Snape. Seriously, when they call Harry "reckless" and "arrogant", it sounds exactly like Snape talking about James or Harry
Both it was a colab
yes it sure seems so charles phillips
@@bonjour570 Rita makes rude stories but would never say anything nice about Hermione like The Take does. Umbridge is impressed by Hermione even if she doesn’t like that she’s impressed by Hermione
That is such a bizarre take because Harry is one of the sweetest characters I've ever read about. One of his most admiral traits is his ability to love and forgive. He even named his son after a man who hated him for existing, and it was not out of spite but as a way to honor him.
Dude Harry was mistreated by the Dursley’s and he still wanted to save them. That ain’t an anti hero. I’m glad that you chose to the correct the Take’s video on with facts.
You are right. He is not an Anti-Hero. An Anti-Hero does the right thing, but doesn't want to, nor has much interest in doing it. And they don't give a flying f@#% who dies in the process.
Exactly
We can call Snape as an Antihero
@@shuvamacharya8001 Snape sure but Harry absolutely not
@@queentron17 wtf?
Person: Has character flaws that you'd expect any teenager to have
The Take: You're a villain
XD truere
Basically everyday on Twitter.
If there was a movie about me (god forbid it) The Take would make me “A Pure Force Of Evil”.
@@MP3RMusic The Take be like : #TeenagersAreEvilAndWillDestroyTheWorld
@@NobodyC13 lmao
“But perhaps Hermione is the *truest* hero of the series” the Take says *as they show a clip of Hermione using the body-bind curse on Neville so that she and the others can break the exact same rules they accuse Harry of breaking.*
Yeah, great logic there. (Note the obvious sarcasm, in case you missed it)
Oh believe me i can read sarcasm, great comment by the way 👍 😁
@Someone 333 And she sent birds to attack Ron just because he kissed someone else :)
@@Kille483Oh really haven't read or seen harry potter in a while
@Someone 333 It wasn't forever. But she did have them for at least a few years. I'm pretty sure she also had acne scars. Not permanent, but still pretty bad.
I noticed
i swear of ALL the possible popular male leads they really went after the single BEST example of a "man written by a woman" with little to no toxic masculinity 😭 they really thought they did something
It`s sad really. Harry is so wholesome 😢 with an uncle like that, it`s a miracle how he turned out.
I honestly thought it was a troll the first time I saw it
cringe
@@LordHowardhu
Harry maybe not bad but the truth is he is very annoying. I read book and i can't like him, of course it's jk's fault
Not all heroes wear capes. Great response to a very, very flawed video.
Lol I saw that sign at my local fire department.
i love your star wars vs videos! :D
Yeah
Yeah
Edna mode: "NO CAPES!!!"
The worst part is that, even if they were right about a few points...they are called character flaws
Harry went through so much hell so that he was depressed. That caused his temper outbursts. For me his major character flaw is the fact that if he hates someone he is unwilling to see bigger picture. Like he never asks himself why this man who hates him so much saved his life. I know it was convenient.
@breh meme nah- Harry also have a lot of character flaws in the books as well. He’s not Gary stu
Nobody's perfect
Exactly!! And they exist to make characters look realistic!! I mean even actual people have them! You know… in REAL LIFE!!!
Yes, Harry isn't perfect. No one is.
He's quick-tempered, he often doesn't think things through before making a move, he's too selfless.
You defended Harry in a very respectful way. Thank you.
hi
That's what I like about him even if he doesn't agree with what they say he wasn't mean spirited about it like other UA-camrs or reviewers or critics would be
I think we can all agree that the golden trio are very mature for their ages. When they were fifteen, they started a program to teach people how to protect themselves from Voldemort if he returned, and risked a lot trying to save Sirius while James and Sirius were bullying Snape at that age. And at 17 the three of them were literally trying to save the world while when Dumbledore was their age, all he could think about was finding the three hallows.
Maybe taking over the world
Very true
Yeah very true
Harry has a big ego, they say?
Harry: Why don't you sit down?
Dobby: *cries because no witch or wizard has ever asked him to sit down AS AN EQUAL*
He is pretty selfish sometimes, but he is not egotistical though.
@@maxteraformto be fair pretty much everyone has done something selfish at times
Fact
He's a kid in it.
@@maxteraform which part? Coz I’m not sure, also I think Harry should be selfish sometimes
Things that harry did for other people:
1. Sticks up for Neville and goes after Draco to get Neville’s Remembrall back after Draco takes it.
2. Frees dobby from slavery.
3. Spends an entire book trying to solve the chamber of secrets mystery to save his classmates & friends from being killed or petrified
4. Goes down into the chamber of secrets with no regard to his own safety to save Ginny.
5. Goes after Ron to save him after Ron is dragged to the Shrieking Shack by Sirius.
6. Saves Sirius from getting the dementor’s kiss. Saves Buckbeak from execution
7. Spares Wormtail’s life.
8. Tries to reason with Ron when Ron gets jealous about Hermoine and Krum. Spends time with Hermoine when she is fighting with Ron, so she doesn’t feel neglected.
9. Forgives Ron for abandoning him after his name came out of the goblet of fire
10. Tells Cedric about the dragons even though Cedric is a competitor.
11. Almost dies trying to fulfill Cedric’s wishes and gets his body back to Hogwarts.
12. Hands over a bag of galleons to Fred and George and encourages them to start on their joke shop products.
13. Saves Dudley’s life during dementor attack
14. Starts up a secret club at the risk of getting in trouble, to help his friends learn how to defend themselves.
15. Goes to save Sirius in the dept of mysteries and tries not to let his friends follow him, for fear of their safety.
16. Pretends to give lucky potion to Ron to help boost his confidence in the quidditch match.
17. Goes after Hermoine to console her after she gets upset about Ron and Lavender kissing.
18. Saves Ron from being killed by poisoned mead.
19. Uses liquid luck to get what Dumbledore wanted. Gives the rest of the potion to his friends.
20. Shakes Dudley’s hand and forgives him for all the years of abuse and bullying
21. Encourages the Dursleys to accept protection from order of the phoenix even after how they treated him all those years, showing that he cares for their safety.
22. Forgives Ron AGAIN for abandoning him in deathly hallows.
23. Attempts to save wormtail AGAIN when he’s being choked by his own hand
24. Saves draco’s life
25. Literally walks to his death in order to save anyone else from being killed.
26. Forgives Snape for the years of abuse and bullying.
27. Forgives Dumbledore for not telling him things
28. Shows mercy to Voldemort and tries one last time to help him (by telling Voldemort to feel remorse so that he could repair his soul).
The Take: HaRry TreATeD pEOple BadLY and IS nOT A rOLE mOdEL
imagine saving your friends' lives multiple times, at your own peril, and having them say to you "you treat me badly". like damn, I would literally die for you, how much more do you want?? Harry tries to save even his enemies, this is ultimate hero quality.
And let's just remember that Voldy is reason for pretty much all the suffering Harry had in his life. And Harry STILL didn't attempt the killing curse on Voldy in their final showdown. In fact, Harry doesn't attempt the killing curse, not even once throughout the whole series. Harry doesn't kill anyone in the whole series. Voldemort killed himself essentially, and ain't that poetic. Rowling was very clear in what kind of hero she wanted Harry to be.
Even when Harry was at his worst point, which I would deem to be when Bellatrix killed Sirius right in front of his eyes, Harry still didn't attempt the killing curse. Yes, he tried the Crucio curse, but it didn't even work properly because his heart wasn't in it. Even at his worst moment when hatred and rage was so strong in him, that hatred and rage still wasn't enough to produce a proper Crucio curse. Meaning the good parts of Harry are still overwhelmingly present, even at his lowest moment. He couldn't bring himself to kill Bellatrix even at his lowest moment, even when goaded by Voldemort.
edit: alright, if you read all the way through this long-ass comment, I hope you got as inspired by harry potter as I got! I know not everyone is going to read through all the other comments in this thread, so here are the other things people have already added in the comments:
29. saves Gabriel in the 2nd task of the triwizard tournament
30. forgives kreacher for betraying sirius and shows kreacher kindness, eventually turning his loyalty around
31. saves hermoine from the troll in philosopher's stone
32. treats luna well despite how other people treat her, takes her to slughorn's party, etc.
33. helps dumbledore get back to hogwarts after the horcrux cave incident (gives physical support)
34. forgives his classmates for giving him grief for being a triwizard champion and then forgives them AGAIN for believing the false propaganda of the ministry
35. asks fred and george to buy ron new dress robes
36. figures out a way to save luna, griphook, ollivander and everyone else from malfoy manor (using the mirror)
37. is the one to alert people that arthur weasley was attacked by nagini, thereby saving arthur's life
38. is noble and unselfish when he insists that Cedric take the triwizard cup together with him, to give them a fair tie for the tournament
39. saves Cedric from harm by the spider in the maze of the 3rd task.
edit 2: yes, I know this was a long comment, and that has already been pointed out by many ppl already lol. So if that's what you want to comment about, there's no need to write that anymore, as it is just stating the obvious and gets repetitive. If my comment was too long for you, nobody forced you to read it 😊. And if the length is intimidating for you read, I'm not sure how you made it through all 7 HP books in the first place then lol.
Anyway, for anyone reading this, I hope you are having a good day! I recently heard from my dad that he's starting to read the 5th HP book. He read all the books except #5 during the pandemic, he skipped that one cause I told him that one was the saddest darkest one lol, and he didn't want to be too sad. So he asked me to just fill him in on the major points of book 5 so he could skip it. But now he's starting to read it! His fav book was #4, Mad Eye Moody is his favorite character in the whole series. He was kind of pissed that the Mad Eye he knew in book 4 wasn't even the real Mad Eye lol.
I feel sorry for you man, this must’ve taken you ages and only 14 likes 😢
@@bobbymiller8836 haha i appreciate it man, but its okay, no worries. I don't really care about the likes. And I type really fast and have Harry Potter like memorized, so it wasn't that much of a hassle ;)
Harry giving Fred and George the 1000 Galleons prize to start up their joke shop is the ultimate bro-move and I can never read that passage without smiling.
You should start a Channel like Morgan I'd watch you like just reading this comment felt like I was reading all the books all over again with a fresh amazed mind this comment feels like a video that Morgan makes!!!
@@Cici-lt1sq Dude that is so nice of you to say haha, I appreciate it! I can really go deep analyzing the merits of Harry potter and analyzing the virtue and morality of his character, so this is right up my alley😆. I definitely have considered making videos, but it takes a lot of work lol. And I feel like lots of videos on youtube have harry potter related topics pretty covered already. but thanks for your kind words 😊Harry is definitely one of the most forgiving, selfless and humble characters I have ever read, he really taught me a lot of virtue.
I don’t get The Take.
In HBP, when Harry almost killed Draco, in the book, Harry was *on his knees next to him, almost in tears because he almost killed someone*
THAT WAS HIS WORST ENEMY SECOND ONLY TO VOLDEMORT I MIGHT ADD
@@shreberry5164 and umbridge but he never wanted to kill them
Don't worry, the vast majority of us don't get The Take either.
I really wish that in the film they also had Harry react this way to casting Sectumsempra on Draco. I thought throughout the half-blood prince and Order of the Phoenix, the point was that he didn’t want to be like voldemort. So he should react like how he did in the books to almost killing someone, instead of just standing there watching Draco writhe in pain
And not just someone, but a person who bullied him at school every single year.
Harry: Is a teenager who has flaws like every person that exists
The Take: He’s a villain
Actually he has much fewer flaws, and probably entirely unrealistic, for example really no twelve year old would defeate a basilisk
I wonder how the writer for that video would look if we viewed her life with a magnifying glass? Not good is my guess…
and he literally has VERY LESS flaws given how much trauma he has like that could never be me. i would actually be evil if i were in his place
When the Take said that Hermione should have been the hero, it plays a clip of her immobilizing Neville, which if Harry did the take would include it as one example of him being cruel and bloodthirsty
True
Yes, the take was biased against Harry in EVERY SINGLE ARGUMENT.
bloodthirsty? HIlarious haha
Yup
@@binglebangledingledangle Your profile pic is enough to give me nightmares~
It’s like they didn’t see the movies. They say he does cruel things to be heroic but then show a clip of umbrigde being taken by the centaurs wich was hermions idea. They say he snap at the people closest to him and show a clip of Harry snapping at Semaus for calling him liar. They say he often choose violence and shows a clip of him saving the man that murder his parents and turn him into the justices system, instead of taking revenge himself.
Also they called Harry selfish and self centered like when he was 12 and thought he was dying in the chamber of secrets he wasn’t thinking about himself, he tries to comfort Fawkes and tell him he did a good job and Harry just wasn’t fast enough.
They also say he's dismissive of Ron's feelings in the goblet of fire, when it was Ron being a horrible friend because he was just jealous. Than they say Harry kicked ron out because in The Deathly Hallows putting them all in danger. Ron insulted Harry's parents deaths in that scene. And it was his choice to leave.
@@rhyswallace3590In the books Ron never actually straight-up mocked him for being an orphan, Harry: "Did you think you'd be back with your mummy by Christmas?" Ron: "I care about my family, I don't want them to die! (or something like that) But you don't have to worry about that!" insensitive, but not mocking Harry for being an orphan, but I guess the take only uses pieces from the movies as evidence so it makes sense you are too.
@@rhyswallace3590 Ron never said anything about his parents in the books. He was dismissive of Ron's feelings as much as Ron was about his. At any point in time he could have tried to talk to Ron but his pride and anger at him got in the way. This isn't anything but normal friends crap so this makes no sense in this video but he definitely was dismissive of him.
He did snap at his friends. A lot actually. Almost all of it was in the Order of the Phoenix. He went off on Ron and Hermione when he got to Sirius'house. He snapped on them up until he wrote the piece in the Quibbler. Ron and Hermione kept telling him to stop snapping at them as they are on his side. Book Harry and movie Harry are two different Harry's. He is all of the things they say he is (except proud of being the chosen one) just in short periods of time.
He literally spent the first half (which was months) of the Deathly Hollows feeling betrayed by Dumbledore because a grown ass man didn't want to share his life with him. It's annoying and childish. Doesn't change how much I love these books but my god why does he think he deserves to know personal shit that others didn't want him to know?
It's clear that the idiots who made the video have never actually read the books, which is way more important than never seeing the movies as the movies add and take so much away, but they were right about some stuff, just had the wrong reasons why and didn't back up their claims properly.
Exactly!
Written by: Snape
Narrated by: Rita Skeeter
Produced by: Umbridge
lol facts
haha bet it is lol 😂
Sounds about right!
Underrated😂😂😂😂
Perfection.
I’d also add Harry’s anti-Slytherin views is a wary bias vs. outright bigotry. His bully is Slytherin, his parents’ killer is Slytherin, his mean teacher is Slytherin, and when he saw Tom Riddle’s memory in chamber of secrets he empathized with him right away to the point of actually considering Hagrid being behind the attacks. It’s less “Harry is hateful” and more “Harry is cautious.”
Not to mention the slytherins made fun of Ron when he was on the quidditch team by singing "Weasley is our King" The Only slytherin harry liked was Professor Slughorn.
@@AhsokaTano1999and the majority of Voldemort's followers were Slytherins. Umbridge was also a Slytherin. And the Slytherins were mostly shown to believe in bad sentiments (think Mrs. Black and the horrible things she screamed to her son and the Order.)
Why the hell is that house is necessary in that school?
(And let’s get out of the point of the literature’s point of view that needs negative side of a complete “body”, let’s call it that way)- what kind of realistic school would agree to contain a house such as Slytherin, that many of their students go out to be bullies, killers, racists, terrorists etc?
@@דורמוראל fair but not everybody could turn out like that we can never really know.
@@Godzillaminusone70ex, Andromeda Black. We can assume she was a Slytherin and yet she went on to marry a Muggleborn despite her family's beliefs and she was disowned for it
Harry: Saves Ginnys life
This woman: Oooh he broke the school rules. Your not aloud to go leave your common room without supervision
@Harvey Wallace its not the woman fault that she told this, its the person who wrote the script's fault. but yea i still agree with you.
That was an Umbrige move right there
Oh, God...
According to the Take; Laws trump Morals....smh, the very point of the story is how the rules shouldn’t stop you from doing the right thing
The Take: Harry should have followed the rules and let Ginny die in the Chamber of Secrets
I’m surprised he didn’t mention at the end of deathly hallows Harry says that he would be completely fine with albus becoming a slytherin
How to tell the Take never read the books: She would’ve mentioned Harry torturing Amycus Carrow as cruelty even when he was doing it , he was doing it in revenge for Amycus saying he’d have a couple students killed as a result of Alecto not getting Potter. However it’s still better than the Bellatrix example The Take used
@Edaug-Ethanb YT good point!
@@lindalaufer2949 thank you
@@EdaugEthanbYT finally someone says it. the take never read the books
@@EdaugEthanbYT he also spat in McGonagall’s face too
On the topic of Harry being a 'typical' male hero, I gotta say he is a far better role model for young boys (and girls) than most modern day male heroes. And this was a story written in the 90's, where boys were still expected to be 'tough' and unemotional.
exactly! also the fact that Harry is a hero because of his sacrifice, and most male heroes that we see are heroes based on their brawn alone. harry is a hero because of his kindness and so many other traits that we rarely see anymore in heroes today
Thank you!
@@lindsaysmith5474 exactly
Yes and all the male heroes nowadays are just a bunch of gary stu's
written by someone transphobic/ that is a terf as well so you would expect some sort of traditional gender roles
Harry Potter is possibly one of the most relatable, realistically-written, and likable series protagonists in the modern world and maybe even in history.
He isn’t portrayed as a Mary Sue who is perfect and never acknowledges his flaws. He learns from his mistakes and acts emotionally in certain situations, like a normal human being. And we see him grounded in casual situations to build his character and still make him interesting.
Harry Potter 🤝 Percy Jackson
@@xcenex479frrrrr
@@xcenex479 Yes!!! They are my favourite two books!
you my friend are like a good lawyer who knows how to be prepared and will win a case
btw it's a compliment love you videos
Lol thank you😂 I grew up in a family filled with lawyers
What’s up dude awesome you got a like
I love this guy he always has good and valid points
The take forgot to mention that Harry is an animal abuser who stabbed an innocent snake with his sword...Btw, the snake was gay so Harry is also a homophobe.
(Sarcasm)
Christopher Bzowski
I agree with you.
😂😂😂😂 how dare a 15 year old who’s been orphaned, abused his whole life, shoved into dangerous situations every year, and seen people die be angsty 😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly, I was actually pissed at Ron and Hermione because they were so mad at his outbursts, if anyone deserves to vent it’s Harry.
How dare a 15 year old use a curse on the woman who just killed his godfather and also tortured his friends parents into insanity
lol
Right?! This ruined the channel for me
@@sonnyfox8407 Actually, in the Order of the Phoenix, they remained calm when he yelled at them, and Hermione specifically tried to calm him down. He yelled at them for good reason, though. Anyone else would have been angry in his situation.
Them saying hermione should be the hero oddly triggered me more than anything else
It revealed the whole point of the video. Harry is man so he is bad, Hermione is woman so she is good. That is litterally the entire video.
@@lukasr1166 Nah it was just bad writing. If the argument was that harry is bad because he's a man and Hermione is good because she's a woman then they would have set it up from the start. They just randomly mentioned Hermione at the end. Like they realised they had no conclusion so just started a new argument.
Hermione is the HERO
But not the main character
Cz hermione story isnt special as harry we are talking about the boy who lived
And Hermione is intelligent which makes the story weird cz the main hero should be amazed by a new world honest kind brave
Hermione just was a supporting actor
@@Beth-uc7jb no they have done an other video saying that hermione is the true hero. That why they conclude with that
@@theflashgordon193 they can’t assume that people have seen that video though. They didn’t reference it or even cite it. They just randomly decided at the end to make a completely different argument and not back it up.
The fact that you could CALMLY explain how The Take was wrong is incredible. I have a few choice words for them with how poor their argument is.
*Dumbledore said calmly*
"this is BS" *Dumbledore said calmly*
I'm not even a Potterhead but honestly the way they blame Harry for his impulses makes no sense to me. Everyone has dark impulses or subconscious desires sometimes especially when you're constantly put in life or death situations surrounded by abusers.
That "The Take" channel has rapidly gone downhill over the past year or two. It seems to coincide with that channel changing their name. Before that they were called "Screen Prism" (or something?) and they were actually quite good. Just endless garbage now though. I don't even bother watching their videos anymore.
@@mikespearwood3914 yea im a female aswell but all they do are make females the "best" characters like wtf
@@mikespearwood3914 Yeah, they started off as a pretty decent channel with some pretty good analyses! I like a lot of their Breaking Bad videos. But once they started with the man-hating bullsh*t, I told them to go pound sand.
@@rachelrothraven8249 Yeah I'm female too, and what I don't understand is...the women in the The Take channel seem to think that in order for women to be heroes, or just stand up and do what's right, men have to kneel down. What the hell is that? Yes, Harry is the main character, the hero. And yes, a flawed human being, just like you and me. But do you think he would've succeeded in his life's mission if he didn't have Ron and Hermione? No freakin way! All three characters were crucial and each brought their own talents and charms. Why can't we just leave it at that? As a female, I NEVER have a problem with seeing a male hero in a movie or TV show. I actually love it.
@@CatieCass yea and even if he was a perfect character it would be boring
The Take: Harry is evil, like voldemort and loves to cause people pain
Potterheads: prepare to attack
The Take: tell them I mean no harm!
MovieFlame: I'm sorry, but I must not tell lies
Lol😂😂
😂😂
ATTACK!!!!!!!!!＞：）
Hmmm…the take has Umbridge brain cells
yasss
Honestly, I love how Dumbledore made those mistakes. It really shows that despite being the powerful wizard around and everyone being afraid of him, he's a human too, and he makes mistakes. If Rowling made all of Dumbledore's decisions correct, it would seem very unreal
Yeah, I love how all of the characters in Harry Potter are actually realistic. I hate when authors make it seem like if you're powerful, it's impossible to make mistakes, even tho it's not. Even if Dumbledore is powerful, he's also human and makes mistakes and I love that about Harry Potter characters.
Also, Dumbledore can say "Yeah, it's my fault Sirius is dead, because you would NEVER have gone to the Department of Mysteries if you knew Voldemort wanted you to do that", but Harry has shown time and again that he isn't afraid to rush into danger. Case and point; charging into a field to chase Bellatrix Lestrange despite knowing damn well it was totally a trap. And why didn't Voldemort just apparate right there? You mean no Death Eater thought to touch their mark to summon him, as a signal that "Hey, Harry is here in the middle of a field, some good old fashioned fire magic will incinerate him completely. His main spell of "Expeliarmus" isn't going to do shit against that, plus you have wandless magic too Voldy. Get over here."
I love the series, but that "Dumbledore Mistake" is total bs. Every single book has Harry charging off into danger with no one asking him to do so except in Book 3 with Buckbeak and Sirius subtly being suggested by Dumbledore.
@@feralphantom94 Ok for starters, that scene you're talking about was exclusive to the film. It never happened in the book so Harry's actions in that scene came from the screenwriter. I was always confused as to why they decided to add that in.
And while it is true that Harry isn't afraid to rush into danger, he doesn't do it just for the hell of it. Every time it's because someone's in danger or he knows that something bad will happen if he doesn't at least try to intervene.
For example the Philosopher's Stone - He tried talking to Professor Mcgonagall but she believed the stone was too well protected and ignored him. He couldn't expect any of the other teachers to believe him if she didn't so he, Ron and Hermione decided to go down to protect the stone themselves.
Also the Chamber of Secrets - He and Ron went to Lockart initially to give him what information they had as they believed he would be going down to rescue Ginny, they hadn't been planning to go down there themselves. When they realized Lockart was going to run they dragged him down to the chamber to help rescue her but then Lockart's backfiring spell caused a cave in which not only made him lose his memory but also caused Harry to be trapped, alone, on one side of a wall of rocks with the only way forward being to go into the chamber.
Exactly
@@feralphantom94 Except Dumbledore is right. The ONLY reason Harry rushed off to the Department of Mysteries is because he believed Sirius Black was in mortal danger. If Dumbledore had actually told Harry everything from the beginning, Harry wouldn't have had a reason to run off because he would have known that Sirius was fine and Voldemort was just baiting him. You ARE right that Harry isn't afraid to rush into danger, but that's what makes him the hero. It's because he will do whatever it takes to protect those he cares about; even if it means sacrificing his own life. It's because he values everyone else's lives above his own. There's actually a great quote from Team Starkid's "A Very Potter Senior Year" that sums up Harry Potter perfectly. It's Ron Weasley dressing down the other students after they ran Harry out of Hogwarts, "You guys wanna know why Harry always saves the school? Cause he doesn't wait for someone else to do it."
Also, your "Harry running after Bellatrix after she burned down The Burrow" argument just shows that you don't actually understand the characters and the world at all. First off, none of the Death Eaters, Bellatrix included, would dare attempt to kill Harry Potter. Lord Voldemort has said, time and again, that Harry Potter is his and his alone. If they even tried to kill Harry, Voldemort would Avada Kedavra them without blinking. And Death Eaters are, if nothing else, afraid of Lord Voldemort above all else. Secondly, Voldemort wouldn't have been stupid enough to try to fight Harry. He knows he can't win. And you would know it too if you actually paid attention. The Twin Cores protects Harry, as shown in Goblet of Fire, and Voldemort knows it. That's the reason he takes Lucius' Wand from him and is so desperate to find The Elder Wand. He even says, in the movies, that he can't use his own wand against Harry because of the Twin Cores. As long as Harry had his original wand, Voldemort couldn't touch him and Voldemort knew it.
Okay, one, Snape didn't even try to properly teach Harry, just went straight into it telling him to basically "cope", two, Snape also told Harry to defend himself, so when Harry did protego literally that was him doing what Snape said, and Snape STILL got mad at Harry, so that was on Snape.
i thought Snape was kinda impressed with protego? like not happy but not angry by any means. in the films he's furious but in the book his memories are in the pensieve so it doesn't matter to him
Potterheads got so upset because let’s be real Harry’s a fucking lovable gem, and just too much bad shit has happened to this incredibly kind, loving kid.
Goddamn right, the words harry potter and villain could never be spoken in the same sentence because harry is the ultimate hero
Exactly, it's like declaring Umbridge a saint. Utterly absurd.
I would be this kid's friend even if it meant my life would be in danger every other damm day, plus i don't actually have friends so i'm desperate.
@@wyn798 I'll be your friend
I agree, but I still wish he had more personality, he just seems like a y/n sometimes. He does not act like a child who came from an abusive household.
His whole character arch is about how he didn’t choose his dads path of ego and took the path humility. Harry literally hates his fame because it make him closer to draco than Ron publicly, and the weasleys were the only family he desired to be a part of other than his own lost family 😭 ptsd makes you distant and aloof, not a villain
his writing style is called the hero's journey
Did harry had pstd i did not know that thanks
James wasn't a villain nor was he egotistic, he literally bullied a racist future death eater.
@@arlinesen1143 he def had PTSD after the events of the graveyard. I mean "nightmares is one of the signs of PTSD for veterans of war or people whom surived abuse.
@@PrincessofEllabur i actually like how that factors into Voldemorts attacks on his mind because most of his vision came in dreams so it could have been Voldemort influencing his episodes and kings cross could have been a source due to the large crowd
Voldemort: a cold blooded murderer since childhood, literally is never in a scene without killing or attempting to kill someone.
Harry: Takes Neville's lolipop while invisible
The Take: These two are literally the exact same person
ikr it's ridikullus
LMAO YEAH THE TAKE IS LITTERALY MORE DUMB THAN PETER PETIGREW
@@arlogood8 yeah
they wanna be different so bad
Another example of person with a Shitty upbringing not growing up evil is Sirius
Calling Harry mean and rude is like calling Umbrige nice
If the Take didn't get so called out, that WOULD have been the next video. And they'll say Umbridge just gets hate because she's a woman.
Nice? It would be like calling her very extremely sweet, sexy and lovable. 🤣🤣
@@TheRealTricky HELP I JUST THOUGHT OF A SEXY TOAD😭
I don't think they read the books or watched all movies but just made up something based on movie clips. They didn't do any research imo
If umbridge is nice I’m from a different planet
Movie fan, book fan, you know that Harry is pretty selfless by
1. Taking on a possessed body by Voldemort
2. Saving an innocent girl's life
3. Changing time to save innocent lives
4. Taking on Voldemort (AGAIN) but, Voldemort has his own body with a group of death eaters.
5. Saw a dream about his godfather being tortured and tried to save him.
6. Quit school, just for the world's sake, and helps destroy a piece of Voldemort's soul.
7. Let's Voldemort use the "Avada Kedrva" curse on him for the better of the world.
If you ask me, it's pretty selfless to do
the take: but that's all completely irreverent. he was CLEARLY a villain
Yup he was extremely selfless and always put others before him especially the people who were in danger.
Ofc u r so true besteee
Not to mention he literally saved Peter Pettigrew, the man who betrayed his parents and cost them their lives, from being revenge killed by Sirius and Lupin.
And he would rather hang with outcasts like Hagrid, Neville, and Luna.
And he freed Dobby from his abusive enslavement.
And he warned Cedric, his competitor who was favored by the majority of the school, about what was in the first task. The second task, he waited around to make sure all hostages were rescued and then saved Gabrielle Delacour when Fleur never showed up. Then he tried to save Fleur from the imperiused Krum and wanted to tie for first with Cedric when he could've taken the cup and the win for himself.
@@kaylapounds1359he didn’t save Peter. He wanted him alive to take him to prison. so Sirus could clear his name and be free. Because Peter is the one that framed sirus in the first place
Harry Potter is not a bad Guy I’m offended
more offened then me tf
Nice,
Me too
Me too I’m very offended
I am more that offended
Umbridge: ill write a script
the take: we'lll take it
I think Dolores Umbridge and Rita Skeeter made the script, and The Take was like "My Script".
@@melonlord4606 Totally
@@melonlord4606 Or maybe they made the video with some random girl as a commentator
@@bsmohanty4478 Also a possibility!
@@melonlord4606 Yeah this video's script sounds like if umbridge and Rita Skeeter wrote a UA-cam video script against Harry to convince muggles that Harry potter is bad
Harry is not self-centred. That is literally the point of the first part of the Goblet of fire.
"He's prejudiced against Slytherins." Gee, I wonder who tormented him for years.
Besides that being unfair. Literally EVERYONE has some prejedcut to Slythrens. They got a bad reputionation to them. So naturally people are going to be weary of them. Since its even said in the first book "There not a witch or wizard who went bad who wasn't in Slythern."
They simply have given the world a mindset they are all born evil. So its hard to overcome a bad rep when you've done a good job showing why you have it.
That's why Slughorn is so imporant. To show that Slytren aren't all bad.
@@Kelseyalicia Harry is incredibly prejudiced against Slytherins. He didn't give it a thought that the heir of Slytherin could be a Gryffindor, Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw.
(According to The Take, anyway)
@@Kelseyalicia Harrys sons is a Slytherin. it tells him its okay . He also names his son after a Slytherin
@@Kelseyalicia actually, there were other people that were in Slytherin that weren't bad like regulas black or even Merlin
@@slayersingh5064
Wow I womder how could he have not thought how the HIER OF SLYTHERIN was not a slytherin 🤦♂️
What makes Harry Potter a perfect protagonist is because he’s flawed, and people (who are not a true Potterhead) forget that he was just a kid and kids can’t be suddenly all adult and mature just for the sake of the plot.. Every kid wants to be ‘the kid’, naturally at times he tends to enjoy his fame.. But what makes Harry great is his heart.. He always stands up for his friends, his family, he readily stood up to give up his own life to Voldemort to save others.. He knows he needs Hermione and Ron but he always will choose their safety first.. Best example of Harry being a mature person at the end comes when he gives up on the Elder Wand, the power of the Deathly Hallows because he already had everything he would need: friends and family..
I agree everything you said except the part about being a true potterhead. You can be one while interpreting the story differently, even if that interpretation is wrong.
Harry is a hero him being a kid has nothing to do with anything.
People put to much on these labels.
@@rodan9773 Harry is a hero, no potterhead ever questions that.. You don’t wanna label him, it’s good.. But some do, so those some need to understand why he is the way he is and what makes him so likeable as the main protagonist..
What I wish everyone would understand is that Harry has a life of his own not to just save the world
@@parthvisharma5866 Not like he was saving the world every day/night but I get your point lol..
Besides, after defeating Voldy, he lives a nice life (if anyone mentions the abomination that’s the Cursed Child, I’ll kill ‘em)
Harry Potter is neither a villain nor anti-hero. He’s a true hero! That lady forgot that Harry sacrificed himself to protect his friends, family and to the entire wizarding world from the most dangerous and sadistic tyrant in history. A true hero is measured by the strength of his ❤️.
Hey i would like to know do you think we should get a last story with harry potter facing off a new villain and then ends his story and then give a new hero a time to shine
I completely agree and he was 17 when he chose to give up everything and walk to his death purely for the greater good, some could say he let people die for him but choices had always been the deciding factor whether that being Harry's house or becoming a homicidal maniac (Voldy) choices led people to take their role within the battle meaning Remus, Tonks ect. To say that Harry is anything less than than a hero that was entitled is stupid, I mean the kid had no moral guidance but it shows that in the 10 years of living with the Dursleys he managed to have qualities about him though the influence he got was no way near to being kind or fair that video he counter argued has made me so mad, sorry for ranting things you probably already know 😂😂
True
When these movies just came out my parents didn't want me to watch them. They thought that the movies were dark and evil, that magic is anti-christian, etc. I've always been of a mind to be a part of the world I live in, regardless of preconceived notions... and after watching the first four movies I remember a conversation with my parents: "It's not about the magic, though. It's about friendship."
10:10 you watched a peer die in front of you, watched your mortal enemy come back to life, fought him only to have the government and a lot of your peers gaslight you by telling you that you're a liar and an attention seeker. Who wouldn't be angstier than your typical teenager?
Not to mention he was an orphan and raised in an abusive household.
Ptsd on top of being a teen with raging hormones while being ostracized and/or ignored would be a bit much for ANYONE to handle at 15.
@@toodlescae I think that would be too much for anyone period
If anything, he handled it well.
Plus, he seen the ghosts of his parents...
I got seriously angry when they called Harry egoistic because the one of the many things about him I liked is his modesty even though his extraordinary perfection. I cannot imagine one being more modest than this.
Extraordinary perfection?
@@sanghamitramitra2629 Of course.
Humility, true humility is one of the extraordinary perfections.
Yeah. He doesn’t want his fame anyway.
Harry was modest
I just read the chapter where Hermione and Ron suggest to Harry that he should teach defense against the dark arts in Order of the Phoenix, and Harry completely humbled himself (Though he was speaking the truth) that he had a lot of help and got lucky in a lot of circumstances. Seeing this immediately afterwards talking about Harry's swelled ego is hilarious 😂
She’s a real life Rita Skeeter, and that’s being harsh on Rita
Oh my god, you’re right 💀
True 🙄
Ha !!!, The lady from the take, make Rita look like a saint.😂😂😂😂
Edit:HOLY COW !!!!,24 LIKE on that comment alone, Potter heads really don't like people talking trash about the books that much😂😂😂😁
This is the best comment ever 👍👍👍👍
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When you make Rita Skeeter look like a real journalist when the only actual piece of journalism she ever wrote was a piece on George being at the 2014 World Cup with his family
"He breaks the rules and gets away with that"
Yeah, like that one time in the beginning of order of the phoenix when he did magic infron of Dudley and lied and it was to defend himself and Dudley against dementors and everyone in the ministry belived him... wait
@@vikkran401 agreed. When he broke the rules he had a reason.
Even McGongagall acknowledges Harry’s bravery at some points.
Harry: *Let’s the centaurs take Umbridge
This lady: How horrible
Everyone: He deserves a medal for this service to the entire world
How did you read my mind
Okay that is stupid ! UMBRIDGE LITERALLY SCARRED HARRY FOR LIFE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY AND MULTIPLE STUDENTS.ITS LIKE THEY ONLY READ THE FLAWS ABOUT HARRY AND NOTHING ELSE
i was more mad about her than on any one counted together i felt an anger i already felt
@@miss_coca8844 She's a child abuser, a wizard tory and up her own butt and then some. I don't see how anyone could make Dolores Umbridge sympathetic.
Oh yeah, and let's not forget Hermione didn't do anything either, yet they propped her up at the end. And let's not forget it was HER idea to lure Umbitch out there in the first place, which the Take DID conveniently forget.
Adding to the point about Colin’s photo, when he shows it to Harry later, Harry is pleased to see his photographic self making every effort to _not_ be in the picture, eventually managing to make his escape from photo!Lockhart and walk out
There are 3 things I can tell about The Take lady just from her points:
1. She hasn't read the books or at the very least read them once and has forgotten it all for the movie versions.
2. She doesn't like men. (Her claims of harry being the "typical male" and saying Herminone is the true protagonist without actually having a valid argument for either claim make that clear).
3. Her video was either made for massive clickbait or she was told to make a video with that title and had to find "evidence" to back it up
Well the Take has....taken a pretty hard feminist stance in recent years so no wonder about number 2
She 100% hates men and never read the books in the first place 😂
The Take pretty much said that if you hated Skyler from Breaking Bad, it was because you’re a misogynist. So yeah, dumb feminist crap.
Seriously...I'm so sick of The Take's anti-man stance.
@@padmakrishna3955Nonono, this is the longest comment u have ever seen? I personally, have seen a full essay (I’m serious I’m not joking) about the summary of a thing or motivation and it’s crazy I’ve seen like comments-0x the size of this lol 😅😂
I used to really like "The Take." They've actually done some really great HP topics, including one on Hufflepuffs that I still re-watch. But the past few months I've found them getting increasingly ridiculous in their "takes." It's like they sit around now and actively wonder what's the *worst* take they can come up with, and then pursue it without more thought. It's frustrating to see a channel with such a strong female presence - which is really needed - descend into nonsense. Thanks for this rebuttal, it was very, very good.
I agree. I think they've made some good videos - but they are making too many nowadays and their hooks are getting more extreme. Perhaps they are desperate to increase their viewership, but I stopped watching them a while ago because of these changes.
Agreed. For instance, they were so desperate to praise Bridgerton with its forced diversity that they brushed off the rape scene as "problematic sexual dynamics". And that is a feminist channel! When they revealed that the "villain" is a jealous, fat girl, I thought that they would complain that it's bad representation, but they found it perfectly logical. They were so busy defending and praising the show that they just brushed off issues they would complain about in other circumstances.
Agreed. Some time ago they literally said that being a gold digger is okay 🤦😡
Same here. I refused to watch this one because of this.
I agree. I used to really like their videos. Some made me look at the work in an entirely new way but they’ve just become really biased and ridiculous.
Let's be honest she's just mad she didn't get her letter to hogwarts
Yeah, she;s lashing out on Hogwarts.
She hated Dumbledore because he saw her as a new Umbridge
Same, but I not taking my anger out on the Wizarding World.
It's not just her oof😭
@@why-him982 haha
4:57 also in Goblet of Fire he said "Fine, if Ron wants to be famous so he's just jealous and avoids me, we can change places, I hate being famous" sort of way to Hermione
I'm a huge fan of the book "Order of the Phoenix." It's not Harry at his most likable, but it's Harry at his most understandable (based on my own experiences as a 15 year old in boarding school).
I agree, character flaws are SO much more interesting than people give them credit for.
exactly! Harry is so well written and OOTP really shows him at his most relatable teen self because his anger and frustrations are exactly how any teenager would feel in his situation
@@johnsantspree1120 besides if these characters start out as being perfect and fulfilled, there be no reason to follow their story, they be boring protagonists.
@@sophieh.4097 Same. I see the end of the Goblet of Fire as the transition from the fun magical world to the dangerous world that the 14 years of letting their guard down throws them completely off guard. Order of the Phoenix does the best job with his character. Its when the hero is at their lowest point that really proves how strong they are, and this was that. The whole world is against him, he's being tormented at night, and anger keeps building in him, partly due to rage at the outside world, and partly because Voldemort's signs are showing in him with the connection of their minds. The book also did the best job of showcasing emotional development for Harry specifically. Yes, I would agree that the Half Blood Prince does this best for everyone else, but for Harry, this is where he grows up. The whole book things get worse and worse, as he tries to uncover what on earth is going on that nobody will tell him as Voldemort torments him, Umbridge and Fudge make his life insufferable, and the only way he can stay standing is by teaching his friends and students in secret. He's terrible at relationships, and the Order wants to use him but make not involve him. They say they care about him but its only really one way. Its fear and attachment, not love. Sirius is the only one who actually is open with him and he's Harry is the best way, but ultimately, he meets his fate, partly because of Harry, but mostly because of Dumbledore. Its the fatal flaw in Dumbledore, despite everything he emphasizes about love, he doesnt understand what love truly is. And in the end, he realizes that his relationship with Harry was possession based in fear, not love, which wouldve been to let Harry know the danger he was in and prepare him for it. They had every opportunity to help Harry but didnt because they were afraid of him or more specifically his connection with Voldemort. In the end, everything Harry was searching for, trying to find an answer, if not about Voldemort, than about himself, was known by the Order the entire time. After Sirius's death he's near suicidal, and the scene in Dumbledore's office is his breaking point.
I mean Harry did almost die last year and watched one of his friends die, also compiled with all the abuse he faced with the Dursleys, I thought he wasn't angry enough, but showing him as someone who kinda just snapped, as a character it makes him so much real.
Harry: *literally accepts his death and gives himself willingly so that Voldemort can be defeated*
The take: that bitch….😲
😂😂
Voldemort laugh
@@Hello-dt9fq hEHe
Fr tho-
@Ninja Gaming any time 😅
It’s like they forgot he was a kid, an abused kid, a traumatized child that is set up to die and if he doesn’t, all his living loves ones die. He wanted to be a normal kid, literally was his deepest and truest desire, to get a family that love him. He was 17 in the final novel, a child solider, and a victim of war. He didn’t know his name till he went to school and the teachers realized he thought his name was “Boy” cause that’s all his aunt and uncle called him. He lived under the stairs. Till he was 11. He was depressed and got some forms of ptsd as the story went on and he witnessed more and more horrific things.
And we do not support Snape. Snape is literally a child’s boggart, a child who lost his parents to insanity through torture and is belittled by his grandmother for not being like his father and constantly a subject of bullying by classmates. Yet Snape, a PROFESSOR, is his biggest fear. And Snape in the novels looked into Harry’s memories, not just what was in the movie, but part of Harry’s abusive childhood and than went on to ignore it but rather be mad at Harry for accidentally looking into Snape’s mind as he used a defensive spell because he didn’t want Snape seeing his childhood.
And Dumbledore’s “greater good” thing literally led to Sirius’s death, aka the last of his guardians/parental figures.
I love The Take but they were so embarrassingly wrong here it’s as if they didn’t actually watch or read the story.
They would've remembered it if Harry was a girl, I promise. Watch any other video on their channel. All they talk about is how EVERY single male character is bad and how women are impeccable unicorns🙄😂😂
They don't understand character development, arcs and the fact that every person has some flaws
No, Harry definitely knew his name. But 100% agree with you on everything else
"I love the take" oh no
I agree
@@clairem391 Yeah, the whole "boy" thing is fanon. The Dursleys do say the name "Harry" occasionally. (That is not defending them in any way. They're still awful, awful, people.)
I have to wonder if the original video was meant as a joke. I don’t think anyone could get this so wrong accidentally.
Unfortunately, the internet in the last few years has removed humor from everything and it is far too easy to see nefarious intent in things we don’t like.
Great review movie flame!!!
Considering they deleted it after I made this I don’t think it was meant to be humorous. More click bait than anything else to get themselves more views for the wrong reasons
Harry: *Literally saves the world*
That video: hE's aNtI hErO
Even though he saved the Dursley's who abused him. And sympathized with Snape despite how he treated him. Ugh. This video made my blood boil.
For real broo
An anti-hero can still save the world, it's more of a difference on how to achieve a goal, they are more on the gray/dark spectrum. But at the end Harry is a bona fide hero, just because Harry is a human being who is flawed like everybody else and sometimes doesn't act like a hero should doesn't mean that he is an anti-hero, heck, a lot of HP was exactly people being upset about Harry not meeting their expectations in a certain way.
Even tho he choked dobby and wanted to let cedric die
Book harry didn't. Movie harry did. Not the same character. The movies ruined harry just like they ruined ron.
“At this point I feel like they haven’t read the books or watched the movies”😂😂
I agree greatly
They have heard a few lines and made something up supported it with "evidence."
That's what I thought.
They really havent though
Yeah they didnt do any kind of homework. They just need to take that video down
Harry never assumed he knows best. He always says he is just like everyone else, had help from friends and got lucky...
I love ur name and profile pic
True
That was hermoine, in the beginning, she thought she knew the best
About Harry not wanting to put anyone in danger in Book 7 when the Trio was trying to get ready for the Horxcux Hunt, didn't Hermione say something like this "you asked us to turn back a long time ago, we're with you for good"? It's in book 6 actually when Harry's saying he's not returning to Hogwarts the following year. Ah.. found the line I was looking for:
"You said to us once before,” said Hermione quietly, “that there was time to turn back if we wanted to. We've had time, haven't we?"
The Take: Harry sucks cause he’s a male. Hermione rules and should’ve been the hero because she’s a girl.
Harry: You know, My wife Ginny is the most badass female in the entire series and was done horribly dirty by the movies. Why can’t she be the hero?
exactly
The people who say Hermione should have been the hero, clearly don’t understand the point of the series. Harry is a regular kid, not some protege for a reason. It’s why the story works so well and has such a great message. Hermione works well as a supporting character. If she was the main character we would basically be watching her freak out over exams and studying all day. Harry was the character that was curious and rebellious, that didn’t just trust authority figures, and broke the rules. So it made sense that he was the main character.
@@janhavi1977 true
Yeah! Lol
I don’t think Ginny is the most badass but yeah
Harry barely even realized he was famous when Snape insulted him. Harry was raised in the muggle world, completely unaware of who he was.
Snape knows who petunia is and the hate she had for Lilly, he thinks they treated harry like dudly. Snape became his father, a bully. (At least I think that's how his father was).
"The take" used to be called "screenprism".
And it used to be a critical analisis on characters archetypes and storylines. For example, their Mad Men videos are spot on.
But ever since they changed the channel, their focus lies on trying to be edgy and go against the current, trying to villainize main characters by picking and choosing what fact is convenient.
Yeah I used to watch all their archetypes videos but somewhere along the line they started to project their personal political/ideological biases or as I like to call it, modern Tumblr talking points/hot takes.
I think this slowly started to show after their How I Met Your Mother videos were finished. The videos after those had hints of this and after a certain point I can't precisely zero in they went full politico/idiological.
They clearly went woke feminist and died their hair blue
Yeah, that's been my experience with them too. I use to look forward to watching their videos because I found them from their critical analysis videos but then it appeared they went downhill. Clearly I'm not their preferred audience since they continue to make the videos. Oh well! To each their own.
@@timvanhoeck7018 ya you can tell with their bise towards Hermione
In year 5, when they're first forming the DA, he tells the group his accomplishments were mostly luck and he almost always had help. He wasn't being remotely arrogant. He didn't want to teach because he didn't feel qualified.
You forgot to mention how Harry rejected the Elder Wand. He had the most powerful wand in existence in his hand, and he chose to give it up. That to me is the most heroic thing Harry ever did. An even slightly less than pure hero would've been corrupted by that kind of power.
Also for Harry accidentally hurting Draco, in the book you can see that Draco was about to use Crucio on Harry. Harry’s first reaction was to use the spell he had been looking at non-stop for months. Even though he didn’t know what it was. And after he still felt sorry for using it
The whole belatrix point makes no sense in my mind, SHE KILLED THE CLOSEST THING TO A FATHER THAT HARRY EVER GOT, he had a right to be pissed, also I want to add that the comment about Harry being a typical male was very sexist and now I’m mad
Edit: the take’s video looks like it’s made by a 2 year old
Fr man
Bellatrix is glad Harry didn’t wanna actually harm her cause if he did her ass probably would’ve died but luckily Harry isn’t that type of person couldn’t be me tho she would’ve been dead
Exactly and he didn't actually mean to harm her if he did he would have succeeded casting Crucio on her
@@chendror872 he did it bcz he was tempted
@@conserztasfia0078 exactly and even when he was tempted he couldn't get himself to actually harm her (you know the woman who just killed his only remaining family) if that doesn't show his good nature idk what does
0:58 I feel like Potterheads are the equivalent to Trader Joe workers: they’re really nice people
And let's not forget that Harry gave an ultimate chance to Voldemort to save himself in their final fight, after all the evil he did !
Yeah, in the books he asked him if he showed any remorse
Can you even imagine how boring the books would have been through Hermione's perspective? The entire first 10 chapters would be her reading a big ass book and the others would be internal narration about how she knows everything, then when you get into a proper action sequence, she starts freaking out and doesn't know what to do.
One of the best comments ever
I totally agree with you. The only things that would've made Hermione's perspective intertesting are conversations with Ron that she has when Harry's not around.
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Ikr she’s kinda annoying sometimes and people don’t talk about it enough like she isn’t perfect she’s a teenager
I’m the 69th like
"Harry Potter, the anti-hero who lived"
Harry, who literally saved the world: *visible confusion*
Did she watch every single movie? Like what the duck!
Hurry saved hogwarts when he was like 12 He's save the world before he was legally an adult or legally allowed to drink Save the world before He was allowed to have alcohol He's save the world Several different occasions And he's Not a great guy Maybe harry should release voldemort and let him attack this person
9:32
in the play HP & The Cursed Child, Cedric’s Dad says “how many died for the boy who lived?” and later on in the play Harry repeats this in TEARS to Ginny because he’s so distraught over it, as he tried to keep so many safe.
If you were by a lake and a sign said “Do not swim,” but there was a person drowning in that lake, what would you do? Follow the rules? Or save their lives? (And yes, I am in challenge and learning to write persuasive essays lol)
I can't swim so I would try to find a rope of something lol.
Okay but in this example, you actually shouldn’t help, because most people aren’t good swimmers and would probably drown too
Ok, well, I was mostly just copying Andy Griffith lol, and if they're way far out in the lake, you may need to swim a bit out, especially if they're DROWNING.
@@Wishuk112 Exactly!! You would still rather save someone's life than follow the rules... Me too!
@@jeniferjoseph9200 Maybe so, but it's better to try than to not
All the characters: thanks for saving Ginny Harry! She would have died otherwise!
The Take: is no one going to tell him off for going into the girls bathroom? :(
Percy told him off……..
All the characters: thanks for saving the world, Harry!
The Take: How dare you!
I’m sorry but to call Harry Potter a villain or anti-hero to a HARRY POTTER FAN is like throwing a knife in their heart. HARRY JAMES POTTER goes as one of the greatest fictional heroes of all Literature. He endured more than the average person in a lifetime just within the first part of his life. To me that video gives me the impression they didn’t even read the books. Hell I didn’t read the books until last year, I grew up watching the movies and it is clear as either way you know Harry Potter that he is a hero. The fact that he was willing to die many times for others shows how he is a hero. I know that there are many definitions of a hero but to me a hero is someone he is willing to do the greater good for others and give hope to them. I’m sorry but I feel offended to almost bash a significant part my childhood. Harry Potter forever will be a hero, that channel can go somewhere
Exactly: Because since Harry often buts others before his own safety it annoys the F out of Herminoe he must be an awful villian.
This channel bashing Harry Potter needs the dementor’s kiss
In one of the books it literally says that Harry is a hero
Thank you
In the dark knight harvey dent say to batman: You Either Die A Hero Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain
'this video is private'
Haha, wouldn't want that video live if I were them either
To be fair, his parents were murdered by the most powerful dark wizard ever, he survived something everyone assumed was not survivable (the killing curse) by means of ancient magic, and then spent 11 years being abused by his relatives before being plunged into fame and realizing the truly horrible way in which his parents died. Add to that the fact he was pretty much never left alone about it, or any of the strange circumstances going on in books/movies 1-5, including outright bullying and shaming from many of the other students on occasion, and that’s more than most sane people could handle. Harry takes it though, and let’s himself be strengthened by it all in the end. I’ve never interpreted any of his arguably selfish acts in the series to be selfish outright: sometimes he just wants some room to breathe, and I don’t think anyone can begrudge him that.
You're speaking the truth. Good job.
Long live France. 🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵
“Typical male hero” .... oh lord. 🙄
Here we go again
I know
There is such a thing as the typical cliche “male hero”. You are just fragile.
There is also something called a “Mary Sue”. You people are so sensitive it’s pathetic.
@@notsophie3911 ok
A feminist review
"The Take" sounds like they heard like bits of the story from other people and just made a video about it, without reading the books or watching the movie
They only heard things from a discussion between Snape and umbridge
@@samuelpain4746 lol so trueee
That video was so clearly made by a Snape and slytherins fangirl lmao
They often are talking stupid things about movies, but no one cares because "they are popular,they have many likes and professional film editing.
@@madapigi1
That's kinda... prejudiced. There are many people in the fandom who are sorted Slytherins and they are so sweet. Yeah, JK hated Slytherins and that's why they are hated by many. But really, they aren't that bad. I mean, the series was in Harry's point of view and Gryffs and Slyths are rivals so the light shone upon only the meanies. We haven't ever read an actual just kinda random conversation between any Gryff and a Slyth who wasn't tormenting Harry or wasn't in the Draco circle. So I don't think Slyths are so bad even though I am a proud Gryffindor.
Harry potter is literally a teenager whose parent's were murdered into from him,protecting him and he mysteriously he was the first person to the survivor the killing curse and he was abused by petunia and Vernon dursley and getting bullied by his cousin constantly also getting bullied and left aside by classmates so many times and he still was really kind, tried to help as much people as possible even risking his life and well-being and was ready to face death to protect everyone else not caring about himself.he is a very good hero and Very selfless.Also let's not forget that HE IS A TEENAGER he makes mistakes and it's normal.also harry did got punished for the the things he did in hogwarts and the only time when he hurt someone is in the sixth book,the half-blood Prince when he used sectonsempra(if that's how you write,i mean Snape's spell.)on draco malfoy but in the book draco was about to use crucio on him,a forbidden/illegal curse and TORTURE HIM, Harry just acted impulsively while trying to protect himself in a moment of panic.also yes tom riddle and harry potter are two sides of a coin's but because harry has a piece of tom riddle soul otherwise they are completely different,tom/Voldemort is a complete psychopath and was born under a love potion & couldn't feel emotions and harry potter was just a victim to a war AS BABY/KID.
What I got from the take was “Male hero oh no we gotta shit on him and point out how he’s the real villain while one of his best friends the girl should’ve been in charge”
The take has gone full on woke recently and it shows.
Especially that “associated with men in general” line.It told me all I need to know
It's not just this video, The Take is generally pretty sloppy. And they have a clear bias toward any male main character. When you mentioned the part where they wanted to make Hermione the main character instead I was like, ahhhh, there it is.
And it's not like Hermione is a perfect character either. She has flaws just like Harry. Or every well-written character.
Damn radical feminists.
Every female trope analysis video like, “cool girl, mean girl, femme fatal” all thy trace their analysis’s back to is, “the patriarchy”. Uncool dude.
Claiming Harry is a bad person because he is just a typical male, it literally triggers me.I have suffered with;
1: Depression. 2: Anxiety. 3: Panic Attacks. 4: Autism. (Which Is More Common In Males) 5: Suicide Attempts.
And The Cherry On Top; All, and I do mean ALL, Men Are Told To Bottle Their Emotions Even Today. It's not an easy life being male.
:( Edit: Sorry if this came across as rantings.
@@sonic_of_atlantis Eh it's alright
Morgan: *Explains why Harry isn't the villain*
Me the whole video: He's a villain? He's a villain? Since when? Huh? What?
The takes video is very ridiculous
YESSSSss
Its like if Morgz had a wife that's worse than him and hates or like harry potter
When I saw this video pop up I’m like what the heck just happened
@@Sketchisawesome I don’t fully get what you were trying to say here
The thing that I kept from this video the most, is that UA-cam is silly and disallowed us to see videos' dislikes😅
I like how the Take assumes that Harry has no feelings whatsoever to Bellatrix literally killing the closest thing to a parent. As if he wouldn't want Bellatrix to feel the extreme emotional pain he has suffered for 5 books. And yet he only causes Bellatrix a split second of pain.
I can come up with ONE negative thing about Harry's personality; he's reckless/impulsive and naive. This however, is what makes him a believable character, because EVERYONE has flaws. And it's not like most people tend to carefully think things through while under pressure now, is it?
Yes. You are better that the take.
Wait a minute...
I count three :p
Not to mention he's still a kid so of course he wouldn't be perfect, he's still learning
@@celestdiaz4754 yeah
@@Eshtian Two if you know the meaning of /
The Take: Harry is selfish
Harry basically dying in the 7th book/movie to save his friends: Understandable, have a good day
I never really got the last part
@@auronnyagangopadhyay7104 Which part?
@@princeytron When harry “ Died “ but came back. I mean i have ideas but idrk
@@auronnyagangopadhyay7104 Harry was made a horcrux the night his mother died. Voldemort destroyed his own soul fragment when he tried to kill Harry. Harry saved everyone in Hogwarts because he sacrificed himself for them, since Voldemort used Harry’s blood to resurrect himself, so long as Voldemort lives, he cannot kill any of the people Harry died for.
@@princeytron ohhh. Thank you for taking the time to explain.
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