The Book Was Better: Dune Review
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2015
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What is a real shocker for me, the idea to make Dune into a series of movies was rejected...during the release of the original Stars Wars trilogy. Let me repeat that. They rejected an idea that, at that time, demonstrated the power of a series of episodic movies in the most epic fashion imaginable. Huge box office, toys, an avalanche of money falling on Lucas. It was a PROVEN CONCEPT when they rejected it. The original Star Wars Trilogy, released in 1977, 1980, and 1983. Dune was released in 1984. The book's even divided into three parts!! The table of contents of my 40th anniversary edition has them as: part 1, Dune; part 2, Muad'dib; and part three, The Prophet. Holy crap, you'd think with source material like that, the movies would almost write themselves.
Don’t worry, Dune is being made again and I’m sure the studios have this in mind this time around...
@@JaceCavacini I have some hope for it . The Director is a fan of the books and everyone involved is not making the movie out of obligation but passion including Hans zimmer who is composer on the movie.
The trailer looks really good
Sooo I can’t wait for the movie
The book was already “woke” (I hate that f#cking word btw, it’s so cringe) so really if the movie is “woke” well it’s a good adaptation
Also the director, writer and actors all love the book sooo
God when the movie comes out there going to be so many people saying “it’s a woke movie, super feminist” but if u seen the director earlier work like blade runner 2049, prisoners, arrival it wasn’t “woke” also he loves the book and movie is going to be in 2 soooo I think it going to be worthy adaptation
Sir Patrick Stewart is an immortal. I was 3 when Dune came out and while I've aged normally, Stewart has aged at 1/10th speed. Hr has to be the inspiration for Captain Jack Harkness and he'll fake his death someday and deep into the future be the the Face of Bo.
In this movie he charged into battle holding a space pug. That is badass!
yes
"AND COMMENCE!" God speed, Captain Professor Scrooge.
I've always thought it's more he looked about 50 when he was 30 so he caught up to how he looked then started aging again
When I saw the movie, I thought the 'music' in the emperor's throne room was some sort of alarm.
@SpaceDreamerFr i know im late. Is it possibly a reference to the book
It seemed obvious to me that it was an alarm.
Hah! Me too.
It sounded like someone printing out a word document
Technically, salt isn't a spice. It's a chemical compound.
***** I was waiting for someone to point that out. Yeah, you're right, but salt is also less expensive to waste than the turmeric in my spice cabinet. :P
As a cook, I have to ask: you poured that salt into a bowl, right?
Then don’t waste it. Pour it from one container to another. Also, I would think the obvious one to use would be cinnamon, but turmeric works too.
and a drug
Yeah...but going by that every other spice is only a mixture of chemical compounds...sooooo
Anyone point out that the noise going on with the scenes involving the emperor is an alarm? First two is to get people out of the room as the guild enters and the other is about the attack.
I was just about to make the same point. Odd that this is the second review on here I've seen that makes the same assumption.
Maybe, just maybe, the reviewer is trying to be humorous.
It's not music, it's an alarm.
Yep, I hoped for a humorous review of a decent but flawed movie, instead I got a heartfelt rant over stuff the reviewer doesn't even comprehend.
@khandwa style They're chill because nobody emotes in this movie.
@khandwa style the only one that seemed to show concern was Irulan
Paul must be... The Dragonborn!!!
*Cue the Skyrim theme*
+Sam S The Dom made the same reference in his review on Dune!!
Michael Lamere Nice XD
It actually sounds like he shouts FUS RO DAH when he uses it on Feyd.
He's the God Emperor
My brain: Don't do it. Seriously don't. Please do-
Me: *DOVAHKIIN. DOVAHKIIN. NOL OK ZIIN LOS VARHIIN. WAHDIEN, VOKUL, MAHFAERAAK AHST VAL. AHRK FIN NOROK PAAL GRAAN, FODNUST VOK ZIN DRO ZAHN. DOVAHKIIN, FA HIN. KOGAAN MU DRAAL.*
The Spacing Guild does not control spice distribution. That would be the CHOAM company. The guild specifically controls interstellar travel which is necesarry for a variety of reasons.
Which also give them a monopoly on anything related to space.
FTL? Interplanet travel? Moon mining? Satellites, and by proxy most forms of terraforming. And a lot more. Yet by being in indirect control of society, they can survive as a parasite who will survive political turmoil and regime changes.
@@loled123 are you really a parasite if you control the one essential, morality out of the way for a second we call all agree there not nice people.
@@Historyfan476AD with how much spice they need, and without them the empire would crumble. It is a symbiotic relationship, but it is still a parasite, much like the spice itself is the deadliest poison because it only kills you if you stop taking it
@@loled123 it’s not FTL, it’s foldspace. FTL would suggest that they move while foldspace places them from one location to another instantaneously. Even with FTL, it would take months to get from one planet to the next
@@tgiacin435 Oh FFS.
Look anon
You are going moving lightyears, in less time than it takes for the light to move. Egro: Faster than Light.
Not the meaning, but the common meaning that has entrenched itself in Sci Fi because the alternative is generation ships.
With the shields, in the book, the were described as pretty much being invisible except for a light shimmer, so they didn't even need to do what they did with the shields
And the emperor's music sounds like a 90s printer
Well, 3D animation tools were still new, but use of it was seen as an experiment or way to show off, as if you’re saying “CHECK THIS OUT “ . It’s like when a movie does the classic slow mo matrix reference. Basically, trying to show off, like when an actor in a Japanese movie speaks English
@@KGKSkull Ik, but it’s the irony especially since this was after return of the jedi which makes it look cheap in some aspects, and the shields could’ve been a lot easier if the only showed a flash when the blades made contact
@@KGKSkull also love your Skullman PFP
What I love about both stories is Paul's ascension is a self fulfilling prophecy. The guild foresaw Paul causing a problem for spice production but in their quest to stop him he ended up fulfilling the prophecy and halting spice production and ascending to the throne as Emperor. I always enjoy stories like that.
Here's the thing about world building, just start with what's important to know in relation to you main characters. A good example of using exposition to begin your movie is Star Wars. Everyone remembers the wall of text the movie starts off with but really it only lets you know 3 important things.
1. there's an evil empire with a genocide machine.
2 there are rebels trying to get there hands on plans to destroy said genocide machine.
3 the plans are currently being held by a Princess named Leia.
Done! How did the this evil empire take control? what's a jedi? what's the force? We don't need to know those things to begin with. We find out when it's important for the characters. The characters are always more important than trivial things about your fictional world.
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the problem is that the only star wars movies with actual "lore" are the prequels...
the original series was more about a string of "fantasy stuff" events without any explanation.
According to Frank Herbert himself, in a 1985 interview he gave at UCLA I believe, there was over 5 hours of film, but the theaters told the studio that they couldn't show a film for that long because they wouldn't be able to have as many showings per day as they'd have liked, so the studio made David Lynch cut hours of footage from the film, not just ~45 mins.
I'd love a 5 hour version.
It seems like a lot of the complaints about Dune, can be reflected in the Last Airbender. A slog of a movie that puts more focus on exposition and world building over character and often blowing past, writing out, or changing important plot points. And both are based off of critically acclaimed works that are WAY too long to fit into a 2 hour movie.
Weird. I sorta agree but then why do I love Dune and totally abhor the Last Airbender? And to add to the confusion: I hate Herbert's books series and love Avatar, the last Airbender, the Animation Series.. I guess, at the end of the day, there is simply no arguing about taste.
"puts more focus on exposition and world building over character and often blowing past, writing out, or changing important plot points"
So, in summary, Dune the movie is a faithful adaptation to the books
Damn, hey it's okay if you don't like Lynch's Dune, but there's no need to insult it this way.
Okay....that little girl is--hands down--THE CREEPIEST kid character I have ever seen!! *shudders*
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It is Alia after all
What about the resurrected kid from the original Pet Semetery movie?
I am going to be frank.
When you revealed that you were doing The Adventures of Tin Tin next, I literally screamed with joy.
The next episode cannot come fast enough.
***** Scripting begins this Saturday! XD
KrimsonRogue Must.....be...sooner....
KrimsonRogue also their where other sequal Dune Apocalypse stating xmen star James Macavoy.
And its a shame I love the production design and the music the scean where they ride the sand WORM and the guitar riffs it epic X2.
If their was a Remake they need to get del toro for the monsters and James Cameron for the characters their it can work and win awards.
Their was also the cartoon as well
the secret of the unicorn
we need a reboot of this video now
“THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKEN!”
The sleeper demands five more minutes
The sleeper will keep hitting the snooze button.
Gurney always was my favorite character in this movie, and you explain why very well. He's a warrior, and a bard. He charges into battle carrying a pug. And he's played by Patrick Steward.
You make a good argument in why this movie is terrible. Still, I still keep a soft spot in my heart for it. My late mother loved it, for all of its flaws, she was a fan of the books and the movie, especially its score by Toto.
Could you do a review of Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind? (Yes it's based on a manga which technically counts as a book).
In fact could you do reviews of Ghibli's book-to-movie adaptations such as Tales from Earthsea and Howl's Moving Castle?
Ian Greene You know, that's not a bad idea.
Oooooo yes. The manga is so tight and good. The movie is not mad but not as epic
I loved that movie
+crazystairs712: The film isn't based on all those 1000 pages of the manga though. It follows roughly the first two of those seven books (which I think is all that Miyazaki had finished at that point) rather faithfully. Most of the changes are not to cut down time but to either remove plot-lines that leads into later parts of the manga or solve them in different ways that work within the plot-frame of the film (the God-Warrior is a good example of this).
The film's strength as an adaption lies in taking less than one 3rd of the plot and making it work as a stand alone entity with minimal change, but it never touches on many of the darker themes that only comes to the forefront later in the manga: like the horrors of war, religious fanaticism, whether or not the ends justify the means, the negative effects of using violence to solve conflicts, what one should be willing to sacrifice to save humanity, whether humanity deserves to be saved in the first place and the stronger moral ambiguity. Nausicaa in the manga is ultimately less of a clear cut "good guy" than in the film, while the villains are infinity more sympathetic and understandable.
The film in comparison is much more simplistic and idealistic, "These people are doing bad things, thankfully good Nausicaa is here to stop them and make them see the error in their ways". In the manga she and the villains ultimately want the same thing, what they believe to be best for everyone, but the methods they use and the sacrifices they are willing to make to achieve that is what sets them apart. And while the sympathies is clearly placed with Nausicaa over the others, none of their approaches is show to be "the right one". They are all simply in a horrible situations where none of the possible outcomes are satisfactory.
Not to say that the film is bad because it lacks these things, but to say that it encapsulates the core themes and plot of the entire manga isn't very accurate.
*****: Aye, I posted that mainly so other people who stumbled upon this wouldn't walk away with the wrong idea,
Miyazaki's 'problem' as an adapter seems to be that he likes to infuse the adaption with his own interpretations and ideas. If the original is his this doesn't produce too much conflict, when the original is not it might. Although I only have Howl to base this on, not having read The Incredible Tide, The Wind Has Risen or his original Earthsea script. His Pippi Longstocking film seemed like it would be quite faithful thought, too bad that never happened.
This movie is still worth it for the set design, Looks amazing.
Does it? There is some bad sets in the movie
Thank Christ we got this year’s Dune: Part One.
A *proper* adaptation.
And Part Two is already on the way!
When part two came out, I'll start spamming sso mabey we could see a 4-ways re-review bettewn dune(book) dune (80's) dune (2000) and dune (20's)
Oscar winning movie 6 times
I'm pretty sure that sound we keep hearing near the Emperor is supposed to be some sort of alarm, warning the Emperor of important visitors or an attack.
And I'm pretty sure Paul ONLY made it rain at the palace, not in the deep desert. And IIRC, he did it by drawing on the Fremen's hidden reservoirs, so now they don't have their water reserves anymore. Good Job, Paul.
But its weird to use the same alarm to warn for an attack and announce the coming of an delegation.
Who else has come back to watch this after seeing Dune 2021?
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I think that noise in the throneroom is supposed to be comming from some kind of heavy space machinery.
Though not making the throneroom soundproof sounds (haha!) like a serious designflaw to me.
...and just for the record, I loved the movie. Was one of the defining movies of my childhood. And, yes, I had read all 6 books before seeing it.
Crap! Dune is about as big as the Count of Monte Cristo, speaking of which . . .
Do you have any plans to review that?
The scene where the Baron seems to check out his nephew, Sting. That is the cherry on top of creepy that is the Baron.
And you've got to give the Baron credit, picking a spy who hates you with every fiber of his being is a creative choice.
Imagine if a Dune adaptation is a series of 5 anime movies that ran from 1985 to 1993, because the original book was incredibly thick. Each end with a cliffhanger until the fifth film.
Um Krimson, I believe that odd noise is the Emporer's alarm bell. I believe it plays when important things like a Guild Member shows up since it's considered taboo for regular people to look upon them as well as sounding during attacks.
Hey Man -- I LIKED that opening monologue.
There's a lot wrong with the movie, but her face and calm voice set against the stars retained my attention. It felt stylish and poetic.
Frankly, the movie loses it with the voiceovers and the quasi-camp feel of its villains and fight scenes.
Exposition is always seen as a sin by film-critic wannabes, but even some of the best movies of all time has a certain amount of exposition, because is the last option for clarifying something that HAS to be clear.
it's even creepier when you learn that the Baron is Jessica's father...
What?
@@tylerfish2701 - Baron Harkonnen is Jessica’s biological father (but since she’s Bene Gesseret, she doesn’t really know her lineage). The Water of Life gives her access to some sort of cellular memory (it’s been a while, I don’t remember exactly what they called it), and since she was pregnant with Ali’s, Alia also possesses the knowledge.
So Alia tells Harkonnen he is her grandfather, and then murders him. One big, happy family.
@@JekyViews Both this movie and the book are messed up beyond belief.
Each video is getting more and more professional than the last. Absolutely love your editing and layout. Always waiting to see what will come out next!
I bless the rains down in Arrakica
Just came back from watching for the new dune film .
"Tell, don't show" - but by all means show a ton of stuff that bears no relation to the book.
Can you do a seperate review of the early 2000s Dune movie-series?
I really liked that mini-series....Children of Dune, especially. Had a lot of faults, but not a bad adaptation.
I agree. I had hated the movie, but the Children of Dune miniseries actually drew me in, and then I watched the Dune mini series.
I hated them. They were cheap looking, and not well designed at that. They were stilted and melodramatic. They felt as hollow as Lynch’s Dune, but didn’t have incredible visuals to prop them up as Lynch’s Dune did.
A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct. This every sister of the Bene Gesserit knows. To begin your study of the life of Muad'Dib, then, take care that you first place him in his time: born in the 57th year of the Padishah Emperor, Shaddam IV. And take the most special care that you locate Muad'Dib in his place: the planet Arrakis. Do not be deceived by the fact that he was born on Caladan and lived his first fifteen years there. Arrakis, the planet known as Dune, is forever his place.
--from "Manual of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan
i actually liked the movie. it was my first exposure to Dune and i loved it, dry bit and all. admittedly the blue eyes, sand worms and epic music made it great. because of it i read the books.
Dune II is what got me into the universe. When found out there was a movie I must have watched it like a hundred times when I was a kid. Then I finally read the books when I was old enough.
Game was fun.
Novel was great.....
And we seldom talk about this movie.
You forgot something, that I was surprised you didn't point out at the end, and that being the fact that Paul WASN'T the Quizatz Haderach, but something TOTALLY different, something that nobody expected including the Bene Gesserit, he just took the title of Quizatz Haderach for the power it would gain him.
I am sorry to post so late I heard that Quizatz Haderach was going to female and born in 1000 later., because Jessica wanted to give a Duke a son she disobey orders. Was the the female Quizatz Haderack born later then>
The Quizatz Haderach was supposed to be male. Able to use the powers that the Bene Gesserit had and to access the female part, but then was to be able to go to the places that were purely masculine, which opened the person who was the Quizatz Haderach to many new powers and possiblities. I sadly haven't read the later books released by Frank, so I'm not sure if the Quizatz Haderach was ultimately able to be born, but Paul ended up having the powers of the Quizatz and MORE, so I find it doubtful, but maybe.
He actually was the Kwisatz Haderach he just denied it. Later in the book he accepts it. In the sequels he is also referred to as the Kwisatz Haderach
He wasn't the Quizatz Haderach. The Lady Jessica was supposed to give birth to a female, who was then supposed to be be wed to a Harkonnen (I think Feyd). Their offspring would have been he Quizatz Haderach, assuming everything went well (failures sometimes happened). That is why Paul fighting Feyd was such a travesty for the Bene Gesserit, two lines that could have killed each other, with only Paul's sister, an abomination, and the pregnant woman Feyd had an affair with (the wife of the other could have been Quzatz Haderach), an unknown entity. Paul never accepted the role of the Quizatz Haderach, it was his son that did... who resented Paul for not taking the responsibility of the Golden Path.
So, just for curiosity, are you planning to review the Arnold Schwarzenegger Conan movies?
Someone has requested it, but at the moment, I do not have it scheduled.
Alright. Thank you.
KrimsonRogue any plans to review the dune mini series?
the story is not set 10,000 years in the future, it is set 10,000 years on the calendar started after the butlerian jihad. the age of the heisenberg came before that and they fell to the machines, who ruled for some time. if i remember right it is actually something more like 65-85 thousand years in the future.
The OST is beautiful.
When I watched Dune, it took so long to get going (and I read the book first) that I had COMPLETELY missed Sir Patrick Stewart. I genuinely wish that I could age HALF as gracefully as that man has.
19:03 - I couldn't agree more with that statement.
32:15 - I *definitely* got that impression from the book. Didn't make it that far into the movie before I followed the sticker: "Be Kind & Rewind."
Happy Anniversary! Looking forward to another year of your videos. Keep up the good work and writing. Cheers!
Thanks for doing all these reviews. The way you talk about stories and characters, I'm taking all that to heart with my story. It helps a surprisingly large amount :) .
I know it's not perfect, but I never had a problem with the film.
What with the new Dune movie that just dropped, will we get a new Book was Better for it?
I'm conflicted about the movie, I love the book, but I don't think the movie is thaaaaaaaaaaat bad.
maybe it was enough just seeing something resembling that universe and those characters on screen.
as someone who never read the book YES. i did enjoy this movie and i could kinda follow it after the second viewing. to me it's just a great cheesy sci fi from the 80's. and there are some lines that just make me go all kinds of goofy. the whole "and how can this be? for he IS the kwisatz haderach" line is just so amazing i can't get enough.
so our reactions at seeing Sir Patrick in this movie were pretty spot on.
did you scream in terror when you saw Brad Dourif? cuz i did. and ran out of the room.
give Leia cuddles!
One of your best reviews showing why this deserved a better adaptation.
Well it got one
Just wondering something, what soundtrack did you use for when Patrick Stuart showed up. (The “angelic” music) I’m trying to make a collection of such songs.
I have wanted top learn more about dattaism, or however it is spelled, but I cannot find anything on the internet. Where can I go to figure this out?
Dadaism.
This review isn't even wrong! And don't forget that Herbert liked Lynches Weirding Modules a lot.
They should've
A: split it into two parts. Or
B: Made it three hours
I know three hours is a lot but so is a lot of classics such as Good, Bad, And Ugly, so is Godfather Part 2, Gone With The Wind, and Seven Samurai.
With good pacing, it could've been great
If you ask me, opening the film with two minutes of Virginia Madsen's beautiful face was a brilliant move.
This is the same woman who voiced the lovely animated Queen Hippolyta in Wonder Woman.
Does anyone know if a remake is in the works? It looks like there were a lot of great ideas in the story that would hold up today.
Yes! There is!
It is being directed by Dennis Villeneuve who directed Blade Runner 2049 and Arrival.
It also has a great cast of actors and the music is being composed by Hans Zimmer (he worked on the music for Interstellar, Gladiator, Inception, and a ton of other great films)
If I'm not completely wrong they plan to release it in 2020, and it will be made into two parts.
If they actually manage to pull this off it looks to become one of the greatest sci-fi films of all time.
I actually watched the whole mini series with my brother a while ago, he was so passionate about it that he wanted me to see it too. I honestly think it did a much better job at adapting the story than the movie did, obviously. It was quite compelling, even though sometimes the plot didn't flow that easily. Still, though, it's something worth watching and may be easier for someone that is a bit afraid of reading a 800 pages book; it's a good premise with a decent execution.
Anyone rewatching this review after seeing the trailer for the remake
If I recall correctly, Frank Herbert liked the design of the 1984 Guild Navigators so much that he incorporated it into the later books
David Lynch also did Eraserhead, so that would explain those industrial machine sounds you hear in the beginning.
I though that music in the throneroom was an alarm for visitors. like what I have for my grandmother.
One good thing to come out of this film is that Dune games (Dune 2000 and Emperor: Battle for Dune) used a lot of its aesthetic, but they sane-ed it up a bit, making them still stylish, but not as gross/weird, which is nice
Never read the books but damn the extended version was nothing like this especially the beginning, and then when I saw the original version I can see why people were so negative of it. I really don't get how people can't follow it, so many great scenes. pretty much cried when Patrick Stuart came there. And If I remember the sandworms even made oxygen on the planet so they all suffocated in the end.
Yeah. Whats sad is it is pretty much IMPOSSIBLE to find a full 4 hour uncut version of Dune. Every time I hunted for it on VHS, and later DVD/Blu-Ray, it is ALWAYS the shitty 2 hour version.
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I remember this was the staple of the scifi channel for the longest time, even a version I can't find had a narrator giving more details of the different houses, their positions and more.
The 1984 Dune is my all time favourite movie.
It's one of my favorites as well!
I like to imagine the weirding way is a lot like the fights in the Sherlock Holmes movies, combined with the fast-mo flow in 300.
I was wandering the world as a hobo wondering if my beard would outgrow me before I was able to watch another video like this! I MISSED THESE :)
Congrats on your 2 year anniversary! Looking forward to many more! :)
Was there a description of the Navigators in the book?
You're either mad, brave or both. Though to be fair after books 3 and 4 the rest of the series becomes rather baffling and silly (in my opinion). Okay time to watch the video.
Watched this a while ago. Now I need to know what you think about the upcoming reboot.
Can someone please tell me the name for the score at 41:15?
Nevermind. Found it.
My dad introduced me to this movie as a kid, I loved it, its quotable as hell, and the books (I've only read 1 book, one set after the events of the movie) was good as well, yes I know that no movie is perfect, but in my opinion Dune comes real close.
Edit: this movie is better than the remake
good news is denis villeneuve is going to remake dune.
“This is a scene only a criminally insane art student could make.” Meet David Lynch.
At about 12:20, what is that song? I need it.
Enjoyed the vid, very entertaining and well produced, I've read all the books and love them, also love the film. David Lynch is one of my favourite directors and the acting style that you found annoying is one of Lynch's tropes, check out Blue velvet, Eraserhead even Twin peaks. Still I agree the film is far from perfect, like you said "Big book in 2 hours" not gonna work, I would love Lynch to go back and do a directors cut, but he has stated many times that he will never revisit Dune mores the pity. Mind you he said he would never go back to Twin Peaks and I'm watching series 3 now, so fingers crossed.
Extended cuts of Lynch's Dune.. nuff said.
Starting from 45:27... did you overlay two separate tracks? Toto's "Riding the Sandworm" and then a stock track called "heaven..." something or other? If so, that was absolutely brilliant. I hope you're working on the new film to be released in 2020.
This is a great review, I really enjoyed it. In fact, I'm going to go watch the directors cut (with 7 minutes of exposition in the opening) again!
Wait, wait, wait... they were gonna have Pink Floyd do the music?
Dude, that would've been sick!
Dalí x Giger for Dune would’ve been... damn. Just damn. That’s... two of my favorite artists, so I wish that’d happened honestly. Though I’m glad we got Alien. Anything Ginger touched in terms of set was so cool to look at. Even if it was often more than a little phallic. And Dalí is just a damn inspiration for me. Not sure having those two would’ve made the script or acting any better, but damn, it would’ve LOOKED better...
i think this is some of your best work. can't wait for the next review. im not sure if i will give the book a try, since im really picky on what i read/listen to, but who knows what the future will reveal. i honestly don't know if they could have pulled off the movie in 3 hours having the movie split into 2 parts about 2-3 long each would have probably been the best bet. what would be cool is if you did a collab with The Dom on a review sometime down the road. would be cool to see both your takes on a book adaptation.
Yes, the effects were pretty bad even back in 1984, and way behind its time. The effects of the first Star Wars were so much better, and that movie was made 7 years earlier. Not to mention 2001 which was made another decade earlier than that. Dune somehow looks like it's 20 years older than Star Wars. I don't know what the problem was, since they did have a pretty big budget. But watching it on the big screen 99% of the effects looked pretty fake. They could have done better than that. I understand Lynch tried to do something different, and he certainly succeeded. When I first saw the movie I thought it was supposed to be that weird (the Baron and the rest of the Harkonnen particularly). Then I read the book and it was nothing like the movie at all. However I have no idea where that reviewer got "800 pages" from. I have the exact same edition shown in this video, exactly the same cover too, but it's only about 300 pages, definitely nowhere near 800. We are talking about the FIRST Dune novel here, not any of the sequels.
Saw this on release when I was 14 and hated it. Getting a chance to actually focus on this complicated film with a bunch of 14 year olds was never going to end well. Second viewing a few years later and I kind of loved it. Weird, complicated, ugly and great, plus the soundtrack by Toto was also interesting as they were big at the time. This film is one of my guilty pleasures. I just hope the new one captures me as this version did.
The spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness.
I can't help but get a kick out of some parts of the movie. The actors who go way over the top really stand out compared to the bored muttering of everyone else. It's a shame this movie didn't turn out well; I would have loved to see this as a sci-fi classic.
Also, I'm really glad you mentioned the dog. I sure as hell don't remember any pugs in the book, but that was probably one of the only good things they added. Though, I feel like bringing a pet to Dune would be kind of cruel.
The world of Dune led to many inspirations, chief among them the universal details of Warhammer 40k
The movie of Dune led many to be inspired for a nap.
There is a surprising lack of people who have seen the sci fi 2000 mini series. It redeems just about everything about the 84' movie and having read the book I can confidently say that it is one of the most faithful film adaptations to a novel I have ever seen.
I have seen it, at least the six episodes based on the first two books (I don't know if there are more that just missed) but I found them just meh and don't feel like watching them ever again. Then again, I found Frank Herbert's books a very tedious read (though I vastly enjoy his son's additions to the universe and lore!) also. So I guess, what got me hooked was the atmosphere, set design, world building and endearing awkwardness of Lynch's film version.
Happy Anniversary Krimson Rouge. Also did you ever watch The Dune miniseries on Sci-fi?
dave jackson Only the first half hour or so. Wasn't too bad, but didn't really catch my attention all that well. I think I was too put off with Gurney not being played by Patrick Stewart. :P
KrimsonRogue when are you going to do the seventh son,(aka the spooks apprentence) its been on your shelf for the longest(obvious forshadowing)
@@KrimsonRogue need to do a review of it.
Hey, Rogue. Another great review as always.
I was just talking with my brother about A Series of Unfortunate Events, and I was wondering: Maybe at some point in the future you could do a Book Was Better review on the film, see how the books and the film compare?
P.S. I noticed you reading the Seventh Son novel a while back, I'd LOVE to see a video on that travesty of a film adaptation.
MrImastinker I've already starting reading the books actually. I'll get around to reviewing the movie maybe in the next year. Not sure when I'll get around to Seventh Son though.
KrimsonRogue Take your time, man.
I'm sure it'll be great.
2:55 If that man was still alive back then, he would create the best movie adaptations of Dune ever. It would have 5 to 6 movies, because he had to adapt this from an incredibly thick book. It would ran from 1968 to 1980.
First, I loved the book. I liked Lord of the Rings too, so I guess I like unnecessarily long-winded novels. This is the first I heard that the 1984 film was originally supposed to be two episodes. I don't know if that would have been possible fiscally or marketing wise, but it sure would have been better. I hear Legendary Films has recently acquired the rights to Dune. I would like to see it made with a big budget for cable like Game of Thrones. Can anybody think of a better format for the huge story?
Happy Anniversary KR. I hope this review don't get copyright
Keeanan Kellough Even if it does, I'll fight it.
14:33 I just noticed the Martian on the shelf behind him. God I love that book.
And the movie is darn good as an adaptation and on it's own.
What's the title of the outro music?
That mini-serie is kind of awesome. I really loved that one!
Though i usually just watch it in one sitting as a long (4 hour) movie. :)
Even it's sequel, Children of Dune, is quite good i think. (That one actually has Pauls son in it.)
This version with Sting though... i never liked it. It's indeed really confusing.@_@
The only reason i could follow the story, was because i saw the mini serie first.
Never knew it was based on a book thoug. Maybe i should try reading it sometime...
I am a incoming freshmen taking honors English. I have a great love of reading and A love for science fiction. I know that I'll have to read this book in sometime in the future but should I read it now, and in this day and age with someone 14 years old actually enjoy about as old is this?
Conner Dawson Well, Dune is a little dense, but if you can handle honors level English, you'd probably have a shot at it, especially if you have a love of Shakespeare. XD
33:37 best line of the movie takethekisswillmakehookaourseich and ride as a leader of man, yes man not men. that line had my in tears so funny
I loved. No, LOVE the shield effects. They are so beautifully off-putting. When I imagine a visible kinetic shield I figure it is modulated enough to cause all light hitting it to morph and shimmer. This film is unapologetically operatic. The soundtrack reinforces that aspect. The excessive exposition fits and, dare I say, reinforces the operatic aspect.
This movie is... decidedly, not everyone's cup of melange, but, for we twisted few who watch it on a near regular basis (dare I speak for the dozens of us?) the rough spots are, in many cases, more endearing every time.
That said; thank you for the passionate review. Your snark is like ribbon candy.
I pretty much liked all special effects EXCEPT for the shield effect (too visible, too angular, too much). I always thought I would be better off fighting without a shield than getting distracted by such a monster disrupting my sight. That and the navigating navigator spewing light/energy/whatever - just looked amateurishly made somehow.