Preach, they probably won't add a same sex couple, but Wednesday and Enid have more chemistry with each other than either has with their actual love interests, in my opinion.
As a gay person I have to say I feel like people cry for same sex relationships in literally every YA show ever, like Enid and Wednesday didn’t even have that much chemistry- if anything it should be Wednesday and Bianca
No, on the contrary, Jenna's performance was the best thing about the show, she really embodied the character of Wednesday well, without trying to copy any other iteration. 🖤
Watching the show made so much more sense after watching interviews and learning more about Hunter 😂 “Why does Tyler’s voice irritate me so much” because Hunter is purposely pitching it deeper! “Why does Tyler look so much older than Wednesday?” Because Hunter is in fact 8 years older, lmaooo
Unfortunately, if you’ve heard the actor speak you might understand why 😂😅 homeboy is not into women and he really tried to deepen his voice as much as possible to sound “straight”. I feel really bad for the fact that one of the few lgbtq people actually cast in the show had to play a straight guy with the emotional range of one of those dead ferrets in the taxidermy shop.
@@itowilltube Oh ABSOLUTELY. Go watch a single interview he’s in for the show and not only is his voice like two octaves higher- but if your gaydar is in any way decent, it will start to go off. Plus he has posted pictures with his husband on Instagram so he is very much gay, and it’s funny to me that he tried so hard to sound straight by deepening his voice but unfortunately I feel like that really messed up the way he delivered his lines in the show.
@@mateom1691 Heyyyyy you know what I thought? He had way more chemistry with Xavier anyway. And Xavier did all that obssessive fan art about the hyde. If they got together in season 2, I wouldn't be mad. Then they could both be delusional assholes together 🧡 They could explore their emotional repression together, as well as their shared daddy issues. (I mean breakdown in the father-son relationship is pretty queer lol - even tho Tim Burton may have missed that)
Thank you for bringing up the fact that crackstone hated people with supernatural abilities but then utilized it himself and had no issue with witchcraft being the thing that brought him back. It’s one of my biggest pet peeves of the series
It was cool to see how Wednesday’s true allies were revealed at the climax of the show when they showed up for her, Wednesday’s ancestor, Enid, Bianca, and Eugene
Is it even a triangle if it's completely onesided? A love triangle implies there's three sides, but the two guys are never interested in each other, making it a corner. On top of that Wednesday doesn't show interest in either. People have started calling these things love corners instead of love triangles.
When I watched it I didn't realize she meant gorgons for the longest time so I thought the school was a bunch of magic spooky people, and then just potheads
@@Bea-xl9rb NO BUT FR I thought it was normal to have a bunch of smokers in an outcast school because Wednesday isn't particularly in any of the said groups She does is gets visions and commit attempted murder, other than that, she's just an aspiring true crime author lmao
I love Wednesday and Enid's friendship, I'm honestly more invested in that than I am in Wednesday, Tyler and Xavier's supposed love triangle. Enid standing up to Wednesday for her cold behaviour was honestly one of the best scenes.
Pretty sure Wednesday does not realize the irony of hating her mother so much, but that is also how Morticia treats Gomez... Psychological effects of being raised in a family like theirs. Wednesday really is a LOT like Morticia, and that would really drive Wednesday crazy(er) if she could ever bare to think about it deeply enough.
@@crystalwang1532 I guess it depends on which portrayal of Morticia we are talking about. I have not seen the original series in so long that I have basically forgotten things about that version. In the movies, Anjelica Huston's Morticia was rather cold and distant. Catherine Zeta-Jones' Morticia tries to be much more warm but ALL of the portrayals of Morticia seem to be control freaks to some extent.
@jamescurfman3284 Huston's Morticia and the OG Tish, were not controlling at all of Gomez. They're madly and deeply in love with each other, and enthusiastically and thoroughly support each other in their hobbies and interests. If this version comes off that way, then it's due to either direction, or a deliberate choice on Zeta-Jones' part.
I'm so glad to find other people that hate him. i called him "little bitch boy" the whole time while watching the show. i don't get everyone's fascination
Tbh, it would probably make more sense for her to swoon for Enid after watching her tear the shit out a the Hyde to save her. Like THAT would make her feel some type of way. Not the two basic white boys that I didn’t notice were different people until three episodes in
@@crystalwang1532 absolutely! It just felt like Netflix wanted a love triangle so they threw one in (It won’t be a Netflix show without one! That isn’t cancelled) that’s probably why it felt so emotionless.
Both of the “love interests” were unbearable this season like I loved the show but I can’t stand them blaming Wednesday for not reciprocating their feelings
Tyler was doing it to be manipulative. Xavier is fixated on Wednesday (she saved him when they were children then he saved her) and is frustrated that she doesn't share his feelings. Both are totally predictable young man behavior.
Tyler and Xavier were both so poorly written, and the actors just weren't charismatic. I wouldn't have minded a love story in the show if they had gotten better actors who actually had chemistry with Jenna Ortega.
@@crystalwang1532 Tyler was being manipulated by a mother figure, Xavier has an absent mother and a manipulative ex-girlfriend. Remind me again of when anyone held a teenage girl responsible for her actions?
my biggest problem was that wednesday would have any romantic relationships at all?? her whole thing is that she hates emotions but she goes weak in the knees for every caucasian man that she comes across??? she gives off such aro ace vibes let's be so fuckin forreal
I completely agree she just wants to use other people she made it clear she doesn’t want friends or more than that i wish they would have stuck with that instead of giving in to assuming everyone wants coming of age teen romance
As a hunger games book reader and as the biggest peeta Stan I fucking hate Tyler.I think we didn’t watched the same show.I fucking hate him sm.He almost killed Enid, thing and eugene and also Wednesday.everything he did was fake.I obviously love Xavier as the biggest peeta lover
what on earth made u think that wednesday reciprocates those feelings. she had no interest in xavier whatsoever and tyler manipulated her into liking him. i agree that i think she's aroace but she was weak in the knees for no one
i think the point of her being the “outcast of the outcasts” is more about them hearing rumors she’s a killer and her lack of empathy, like they’re all different but they still act like normal kids
it would have been more compelling if the outcasts were also… weird? like the social cliques made the whole idea of embracing your weirdness and finding a safe space redundant because they are somehow still enforcing social hierarchy/ likeness . the story would have been far more interesting if wednesday came to find that she wasn’t strange, but different/ people embraced her rather than rejected her.
The fact of the matter is, when you get enough people together (particularly teens/preteens), no matter how similar in struggles or interests, there's always someone(s) who's on the edge. Just look at school clubs, office politics, or even families.
Wednesday doesn’t have chemistry with anyone though, which is kind of the point of Wednesday. But no, gotta put a dumb love triangle plot in for no reason.
Yeah, I feel like a simple disconnect would have been suitable to experiment with in the story, but the full-on standoffishness was just so out of spirit for the Addams.
@MrsMars It’s understandable given common tropes, but it’s cliche and straight up out of character for the Addams. It’s good to see examples of communicative family relationships, add some variety to representations of family dynamics.
Some families are really like that, especially wealthy families. They can afford to be such assholes. Plus, being manipulators seems to come naturally to people who were born to big money. Morticia is a huge manipulator. And I adore Catherine in that role, she's an awesome actor!
You know what I just realized, where tf were the rest of the teachers!?!? Like I did not see a single adult outside with the students during the battle. I know damn well the head master and Laura were not the only adults teaching at that school
@@GeorgiePorgie127 Yes but where were they when the entire school was scrambling to get out and while they were waiting for authorities to arrive off school grounds? Do they commute to work? Do they live in a separate building and weren't told of the danger heading their way? I have so many questions lol
@@LyneDayes lmaoo true, I remember the fencing teacher was in pyjamas in the dorm when bianca used her siren song to tell him to get the students out so i assume they just have rooms there? But if thats the case wouldnt they question why thornhill doesn’t stay there (since she slept at the gates house lol)
@@jeffpage1000 I would agree if the line between what was Tyler and what was MsThornhill wasn't so blurred, was he just saying it because she wanted him to grow closer to Wednesday? It's hard to distinguish what's genuinely Tyler and what's him manipulating Wednesday under the power of Ms. Thornhill. While Xavier is just genuinely whining about every single woman in his life. Either way they both suck lmao
@@Zephur0s well idk about that, because Wednesday said he reminded her of her brother… so that will seem weird since they already set them up as a sibling relationship.
W is comfortable with Eugene. He is her little brother from another mother. And he is dorky -- inclined to monologuing about bees ... a bit like her obsession with the morbid (as her mother notes). She copes with Eugene's style of social interaction much better than with Enid's social and emotional talk -- and Enid does not cope with Eugene at all -- her social skills are limited too, just in a different direction. Everyone talks about the relationship between Enid and Wednesday, and Wednesday's "lack of social and emotional skills", but the relationship between Eugene and Wednesday shows off Wednesday's ability to relate to fellow social and emotional outcasts, rather than to fellow magic outcasts who are extrovert party-types like Enid. Wednesday relates comfortably to people like herself and not with her opposites, and Enid relates comfortably to people like herself and not with her opposites. Wednesday is not the only one with limited social skills; it is just that her comfortable social type is a minority -- e.g. just Eugene and her (and Fester when he turns up).
She was that way with everyone except Enid and Eugene so I actually got why Enid was mad at her. Wednesday started showing that she cared at least a bit for Enid
Literally could not understand where Xavier was getting that Wednesday liked him the whole show. For Tyler I somewhat got it - like I guess she did seek him out a little bit? but the only person she actively went out of her way to connect to were Enid and Eugene. Eugene was clearly a brotherly figure. You can see a marked change in how she spoke to Enid, how she cared about her opinion, how she softened herself around her. They should have been together! Smh They even paralleled Enid’s shift story to coming out ffs
1. Xavier has been thinking of Wednesday since she saved him from being cremated. 2.He broke up with Bianca because she is competitive and manipulative. Wednesday is so uninterested in him , he knows she wouldn't bother trying to manipulate him. 3. Saving her from the falling statue has triggered his protective tendencies and now he feels a sense of responsibility. Lots of young men cant differentiate between feelings of protectiveness towards someone and romantic feelings.
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 Wednesday does use Tyler several times to get what she wants -- e.g. a ride out of town to the railway station. He assumes it means more than that.
@@himbo754 Exactly. Asking someone for a favor doesn't mean you want to kiss them. This is incel logic. If I borrow a book from some guy or ask him for a ride because he's the only person I know with a car and free time doesn't mean I want to bang. Someone should teach these types of boys that there's more to interacting with women than wanting to bang.
thing and jenna carried the entire show on their backs in my opinion, it's a fun little series but if u think about it too much it has a lot of problems, in my opinion anyways
Yeah, I thought that if we didn't have Wednesday, the show would be just a standard teen series... I realized that her personality and Thing made everything in the show worthwhile
Seeing Hunter talk in interviews makes me more impressed with his performance because at first I was like why is his mouth barely moving? Is this voiced over? What is going on? And then seeing who he is as a person, he totally created a character and I love that! So many people play themselves and he really didn’t
I was the most annoyed that they were mad every time she acted like herself. Like these characters built up and idea and she crushed it every time and they had the audacity to be SURPRISED???
Lmao because I fully had no idea who it was until that scene 😂 I 100% thought the therapist was the one behind it all. The only thing I was right about was the resurrection plot
I dont care much about the romance in this show at all, but it kind of surprised me that Tyler being a murderous monster crossed the line for Wednesday. Like, your family is full of murderers. The opening scene is you trying to kill people. Seems like it'd be a requirement for her 😂
I thought she was going to be into it😹 I feel like that’s on her radar lol. I like how in the episode where they kiss she acknowledges that a murderous monster was her “type”
Wensday doesn't have visions but her mother is mentioned to know dark arts in the movies. So is not that farfetched... plus magic and crazy fits are shown all the time arround the Addams family
I mean you can't really compare previous Addams media with this movie because everywhere else Addams were just humans, they weren't supernatural beings or had any kinds of powers but in this series they are supernaturals and they do have unique powers.
@@tokki6085 Yes she did. She was at least nice to Enid every once in a while (which is a pretty big deal with Wednesday). She was out here straight up lying to Enid about the snood to spare her feelings. “He breaks your heart and I’ll nail gun his” Wednesday actual gave signals that she liked her while her signals to Tyler were just “I need a ride 😐”
@@drakethesnek6429 Relax bitch. They're just saying she was nicer to Enid then both love interests. Emphasising that the chemistry and signals were actually none existent from Wednesday and the guys getting mad that she hardly reciprocated their feelings was just plain silly cuz she gave her friend more "signals".. Not that she was actually queer.
my issue with the show is that the Addams family is meant to be the dark, odd family surrounded by average people, which is why they stand out so much. The Addams family members are also just humans with abnormal interests which is what I loved about the original show, then the movies. I didn't love that they made it a supernatural show, because that's not what any of it is except with the odd people in their family that are mentioned as having 3 arms, or like thing, but no one else things that's normal and no one understands them.
idk if you noticed but the “i prefer spooky” part is a nod to the addams family song. “they’re creep and they’re kooky mysterious and spooky they’re all together ooky the addams family”
As much as I love Tyler and Wednesday’s chemistry/relationship, I honestly feel that it would’ve fit Wednesday’s character to not even have a romantic plot line to begin with. However, if they had paired her with Enid as her romantic love interest instead, I’d be all for it.
we can all agree that the main issue of the show is the dryass chemistry between wednesday and her 'love interests' like i aint even gonna scream for a canon wenclair (they had sm more chemistry tbh). asexual wednesday wouldve actually made more sense lol
I never understood why characters like Tyler and Xavier and even maybe Enid felt like Wednesday owed them attention or love or something it annoyed me so much
Yeah all three of them had this "i can change her" attitude. Xavier expected her to care about him when she had no real reason too. Enid wanted her to do thing she likes doing, like when buying her a dress she takes her to a place she likes and never considered what even appeals to Wednesday and still expected them to be Bff's somehow. Tyler turned out to be an exception so points to him(and laurel) for actually appealing to her dark personality to sabotage her.
I don’t think Enid felt like Wednesday owed her anything she was just upset that she was lied to and almost got killed but Wednesday didn’t seem to understand why she was upset which is what made her leave
I think the whole romance thing is what is wrong with the show. Wednesday is amzing on her own, yeah bring in friendship, but the whole romance thing killed the show for me.
The Wednesday show just has none of the charm that the 1964 Addams Family show did. They were an odd family that genuinely thought their “difference” wasn’t actually different. They were cute,loving, and funny. Also, why’d they make pugsley younger and less devious than Wednesday? He would NOT have been bullied in the original! If he was then he would’ve invented something to get back at them since he liked to invent wacky shit in the show. I also didn’t like that everyone was constantly pushing their feelings onto Wednesday and constantly trying to push her to be someone she’s not. She’s socially awkward, introverted, and likes to keep to herself. People need to stop overstepping her boundaries and assuming things about her.
Yes thank you!! In the show people were scared of the Addams- no way anyone would have even thought to bully Pugsley. The new show is trying too hard to follow a pattern of what Netflix thinks today's generation likes, that I wouldn't even recognize this show as being an Addams family spinoff if it weren't for their names. The best parts of it honestly were the callbacks to the older Addams and I was so sad when uncle Fester didn't do the lightbulb trick :(
The only part I disagree with you is Wednesday’s character arc. This is the first time we see her away from her family so I think it’s important for her arc to be about learning to care about people other than her family, and making connections with others. Her relationship with Eugene and Enid are the center point of her character development. And people change as they age. 10 yr old Wednesday doesn’t need to learn to care for those outside her family (cuz she’s never away from them). 15 yr old Wednesday does
@@crystalwang1532 it still doesn’t take away from the fact that everyone was over stepping her boundaries and expecting her to be a happy sunshine when she’s not. Eugene is the only one who didn’t push his friendship or anything onto her.
Yeah those were my feelings when I watched it as well, the family dynamic was off. They have always been a loving, non-judgmental, and supportive family and the fact that Wednesday didn't feel supported by her parents, mostly Morticia, didn't sit right with me. Pugsley has never been written very consistently but there is no way he would be getting tied up and shoved in a locker unless he wanted them too.
Tyler DOES speak weird in the show!! Listen to him in interviews, I noticed the raspy-ness of his voice when he speaks in the show is non existent when he talks normally, I think it must’ve been something Tim Burton asked him to do.
You're so right about the lacklustre supernatural aspect of the show, ppl hardly used their powers and I still don't get how Crackstone was suddenly powered up at the end? What was in his staff? Was it a part of the resurrection ritual?
i think jenna makes the show like 10x more enjoyable cuz she's amazing. i think why it feels a little off sometimes for me is bc i think they put a lot of work into developing wednesday bc shes a culture classic that the side characters feel a little underdeveloped
I literally felt the same way. Everyone was so hurt when Wednesday didn't act a certain way meanwhile, she's literally never given them any reason to think she would act that way. They were actually just hurting their own feelings. It's so annoying! Leave Wednesday alone!
I love the actor who played Tyler, really, I do. He is clearly SO talented, especially that last scene at the station. I just don't like how the character talks at times it made me wanna slap him ahahaha
I love how we had the same thoughts whilst watching this show. Loved Tyler, got me blushing and giggling. Did not care for Xavier at all. You're so true with the hunger games parallels lol Overall, an alright show. Wild that this beat stranger things 4's record for most watched.
Trins confusion with the mixed signals at 16:30 was literally me. I had to rewatch the first episodes cause I didn’t know where he got that Wednesday liked him 😹 then it all makes sense at the end.
Wednesday and Enid? Sure, it could make sense, but come oonnnnnn Wednesday and Bianca are righttt there on a silver platter!😩 Their chemistry? *chef's kiss* The tension? *butthole clenching* and they would be good for each too and bring so much to eachother's characters, they are the power couple we need and the enemies to lovers we deserve, they could rule the world together and we'd let them😭 Now that or Wednesday is also clearly just the Ace queen the BLT community has been waiting for, it's time we give our ace babies some love too 😂
I HATED Tyler and Xavier because they honestly came off as self proclaimed “nice guys.” I was super confused because I didn’t think Wednesdays actions toward them were romantic AT ALL. On top of that they both seemed so pushy about it and ignorant of Wednesdays feelings or how she may have seen it in general. The only one I genuinely liked at the end was Enid because she gave Wednesday space even though she was hurt and didn’t understand. I know she was pushy about Wednesday being her friend but that’s less egregious than feeling entitled to someone’s attention/affection because you do things for them. That’s gross.
THANK YOU for the Xavier comments. That boy was such a frustrating character and seeing all of the love for him online has been confusing at best. I think I enjoyed the show a bit more than a 2.5/5 but I definitely get where you're coming from with Netflix doing the same supernatural stuff over and over again to only cancel the shows after one season. Also, the Teen Wolf mention was so spot-on. I had gotten the Hyde reveal spoiled before I watched so the entire time I was trying to figure out who else was in on the whole thing and having it turn into a similar plot as the chimera was pretty fun imo! The entire time I was also comparing Tyler to Void Stiles and I must say, the scene in the police station where Tyler says "What does it feel like? To lose?" was GIVING void stiles through and through. Great video Trin :)
In my opinion, the writers didn't do well in terms of writing relationships and even friendships. Wednesday and Enid are really cute to see together and so many people even ship them (me included), but truth is we feel something for them because we can put them into a trope. Sunshine x Grumpy trope to be exact. When you really look at the show, they didn't have much build-up for us to feel a bond between them. In fact, none of the relationships did! I feel like they tried to go for the "bad guy vs. cute guy" with Xavier and Tyler but it didn't work, because again, no build-up. They didn't properly go into depth with their characters, we can't feel anything. Whenever either of them make a move on Wednesday, it makes the viewer feel like some interactions have happened behind the scenes to make Tyler, Xavier or even Wednesday feel the way they do.
I feel like I’m the only one who never thought Tyler could be the Hyde. I clocked Ms Thornhill pretty early, but I was so focused on her I never suspected him
I think my problem was that I was so annoyed by the love triangle and both love interests that I didn’t even consider Tyler as the monster, just really fucking annoying. 😂
why does this kinda remind me of that one spongebob scene where spongebob goes "i've got my eye on you" to a plant and patrick comes in saying "hey spongebob" then spongebob is distracted by patrick
Xavier gives me a "nice guy" feelings and that's one of the reasons why i don't vibe with his character. Like he is cool until things stop going as the way he wants or he gets rejected. Everytime Wednesday suspected at him or was seen with Tyler, he would immediately start being rude and throwing a tantrum like she owed him something.
I very much liked the show but the love triangle I could do without and the finale was a bit rushed. Other than that I really liked this show with episode 4 being my favorite. Jenna Ortega is this generation’s scream queen and I’m living for all of it. Can’t wait to see her in scream 6.
I’m so glad you hate Xavier too because he got on my nerves. He was OBSESSED with no reason to be. Definition of “nice guy” Also about time someone else felt the moment in the woods when Tyler grabbed her jacket. The TENSION there!!!! 👀👀 “flattery will get you nowhere” 🥵
but i think they are going to give them a relationship becuase they made a childhood backstory for them and gomez is absolutely OBSESSED with morticia so i think that’s why wednesday likes him kinda deep down, and she says she has a type and she only suspected 2 people as the killers, tyler and wednesday. i bet she would love a devoted obsessed significant other
@@lolaauty she didn’t have an recollection of him from childhood though. Only the story once he reminded her. That’s not a cute childhood love story. Also Wednesday HATES how obsessed her parents are with each other. Doesn’t seem fitting for her character to desire that. If they are setting up an epic endgame love story for them, they did a poor job of showing Wednesday have any romantic interest in him. Just didn’t come through for me at all. One sided.
17:13 my mom guessed it was tyler in the first three episodes, then the xavier red herrings threw her off. my dad thought it was xavier, then one of the adults, then laurel gates. we are on the last episode and my mom says that the master is the sheriff or weems (dad has caught on, but he also fell for the kimbott fake out). so apparently it isn’t clear to everyone
I think Xavier's dreams are and implication that he is having visions, powers are passed down and his father does have them as well. That's what I don't get from the whole show, nobody (even people with powers) takes a second to think and put things together. I also think the whole Monday's child song is funny and makes sense, she is a Friday's child that were supposed to be caring and giving or something like that, and she end up caring about people.
Tbh, it was overhyped. Like the best thing about it was Jenna’s portrayal and “Thing” but other than that, it’s pretty average. I might get hated but I don’t get the obsession about Wed and Enid’s friendship like yall acting like their friendship was iconic when I didn’t feel any chemistry and they weren’t even with each other that much. Wed’s relationship with the bee kid was much more endearing.
it's because sunshine x darkness is a very popular ship trope. i'm not very invested but i do think wednesday seems to like enid more than xavier or tyler lmao
Finally someone said it. I didn’t really feel anything special from their friendship. Don’t get me wrong, I like it, but putting Wednesday with Enid feels just as bland as with either of the boys tbh. The only friendship that got me to feel something was her friendship with Eugene.
glad im not the only xavier anti... even though it was obvious I kept wanting to think the monster was literally anyone but tyler cause I could not handle them trying to make me like Wednesday and xavier together, I don't want it, he's the worst
Can you explain how he’s the worst. When he was litrally the most truthful and genuine character throughout the whole show. Like I didn’t like how she kept picking on his character. Yes he invaded Wednesday space alot. But did he kill her friends? Did he lie to her? No, rather he protected her and warned her plenty of times about Tyler. And also saved her life TWICE. If you call the WORST then man you’re expectations must be low
worda bro y’all make him out to be way worse than he really was lol. he did make me annoyed at times but overall, he’s not the worst. y’all do too much.
Morticia,Grandmama and Wednesday are sorta implied to have a certain degree of clairvoyance in the comic strips and cartoons but this show is the first to officially confirm it.
since it's already cancelled, i need you to watch Warrior Nun. Yes, it's on netflix and a "supernatural"-esque show. BUT it really is one of the best shows ever created. The plot, cinematography, character development and even the score. Please do give it a chance.
Lmao thank you for being Team Tyler even despite him being the monster cuz that bare minimum chemistry got me too ✊🏽😂 That other guy was sooooo whinyyyyy lol
Personally, I don't want to see Wednesday and Enid together, because I feel like their relationship being platonic has so much more meaning to it, especially considering how Wednesday seems to act as if she doesn't need anyone, I feel like Wednesday should stay single, since it would distinguish this show from other shows, since the main character almost ALWAYS ends up in a relationship.
the issue with this show is that wednesday and enid are not dating.
Preach, they probably won't add a same sex couple, but Wednesday and Enid have more chemistry with each other than either has with their actual love interests, in my opinion.
As a gay person I have to say I feel like people cry for same sex relationships in literally every YA show ever, like Enid and Wednesday didn’t even have that much chemistry- if anything it should be Wednesday and Bianca
@@2im36 that’s also very true, it would be cool if wednesday and bianca dated too.
or at least a wednesday and bianca enemies to lovers arc!!
Wed and Enid didn’t even have chemistry as friends lmaoo. I don’t get the hype for their friendship.
love how literally everyone agrees that jenna's wednesday isn't the problem of the show
the show was lowkey ridiculous but loved the actors they did good
She channeled
she embodied her character to a tee it was great
No, on the contrary, Jenna's performance was the best thing about the show, she really embodied the character of Wednesday well, without trying to copy any other iteration. 🖤
she's the saving grace to be honest. I wouldn't have put up with the show at all had it not been jenna's performance
my favourite part of the show was gomez being slightly offended when wednesday told him "i knew you didn't have what it takes to be a murderer"
Yesss he looked at her like “those were harsh words” 😂
slightly?
Calling it now, the issue is the love triangle
Yes, the love triangle takes you right out of the show, and could easily be erased, with no harm.
No white boys are allowed near such a complex specimen, as miss Wednesday Addams.
there is no love triangle
She literally cares way more about Enid and Eugene than any of them, I don't know how they thought the Love Triangle was a good idea tbh
100% one of the biggest problems. WHY did it need a love plot
Thing is lowkey the best character
nah Eugene is
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spooky tiktok thirst trap hand with a personality is highkey best character
I love the fact that Tyler’s actor, hunter , has to put on a deeper “straight boy “ voice the whole show 💀
Ohhhhh, that explains so much. I thought he was just a bad actor
I thought it was endearing. Men being gay and soft is so cute
@@mr.perezident9381 Bad actor?
@@Noa...... the way he’d deliver his lines. it’s probably not bad acting but his voice just sounds weird to me
Watching the show made so much more sense after watching interviews and learning more about Hunter 😂 “Why does Tyler’s voice irritate me so much” because Hunter is purposely pitching it deeper! “Why does Tyler look so much older than Wednesday?” Because Hunter is in fact 8 years older, lmaooo
the issue is definitely Tyler ALWAYS talking like a cosplayer who idolizes jughead from riverdale
Unfortunately, if you’ve heard the actor speak you might understand why 😂😅 homeboy is not into women and he really tried to deepen his voice as much as possible to sound “straight”. I feel really bad for the fact that one of the few lgbtq people actually cast in the show had to play a straight guy with the emotional range of one of those dead ferrets in the taxidermy shop.
@@mateom1691 he tried to deepen his voice? maybe they could got different actor he seemed annoyed with wedsn which i get bc his mom
@@itowilltube Oh ABSOLUTELY. Go watch a single interview he’s in for the show and not only is his voice like two octaves higher- but if your gaydar is in any way decent, it will start to go off. Plus he has posted pictures with his husband on Instagram so he is very much gay, and it’s funny to me that he tried so hard to sound straight by deepening his voice but unfortunately I feel like that really messed up the way he delivered his lines in the show.
no bc he gives off jughead
@@mateom1691 Heyyyyy you know what I thought? He had way more chemistry with Xavier anyway. And Xavier did all that obssessive fan art about the hyde. If they got together in season 2, I wouldn't be mad. Then they could both be delusional assholes together 🧡 They could explore their emotional repression together, as well as their shared daddy issues. (I mean breakdown in the father-son relationship is pretty queer lol - even tho Tim Burton may have missed that)
Thank you for bringing up the fact that crackstone hated people with supernatural abilities but then utilized it himself and had no issue with witchcraft being the thing that brought him back. It’s one of my biggest pet peeves of the series
I know it was giving hypocrite
but also that seems like something a bigot would do, they’re the biggest hypocrites
He said "witchcraft, but only for me"
Its very believable, bigots are huge hypocrites
@@hazelsingh3887 My thoughts exactly
It was cool to see how Wednesday’s true allies were revealed at the climax of the show when they showed up for her, Wednesday’s ancestor, Enid, Bianca, and Eugene
*and xavier.. kinda 😅
@@GeorgiePorgie127 sorta 😂😂
@@tink6225 he tried😩
@@GeorgiePorgie127 it’s the thought that counts!
@@GeorgiePorgie127 that’s why he’s bae 🤞🏽
trin calling gale from the hunger games "garrett" is killing me
I've been scrolling for this comment
LOLL i was like whose garrett. so i just assumed it was the dude who killed rue 🤣
Ah yes, the classic love triangle: Jealous Manchild vs. Manipulative Nice GuyTM.
i can't even tell which is which
@@puppypower222 Well Tyler was more clearly more manipulative so…
the hoorah with Tyler was just an act
It's the Edward vs Jacob all over again!!!
Is it even a triangle if it's completely onesided? A love triangle implies there's three sides, but the two guys are never interested in each other, making it a corner. On top of that Wednesday doesn't show interest in either. People have started calling these things love corners instead of love triangles.
Calling gorgons “stoners” is the best thing I’ve ever heard
When I watched it I didn't realize she meant gorgons for the longest time so I thought the school was a bunch of magic spooky people, and then just potheads
@@Bea-xl9rb
NO BUT FR
I thought it was normal to have a bunch of smokers in an outcast school because Wednesday isn't particularly in any of the said groups
She does is gets visions and commit attempted murder, other than that, she's just an aspiring true crime author lmao
@@Bea-xl9rb fr i really thought that too like damn stoners in this school??? 😭
@@jocolatebhipzzz 💀😭 forget about the vampires, there’s canon weed?????
@@Bea-xl9rb frfr it took way too long for me to realize they meant gorgons
I love Wednesday and Enid's friendship, I'm honestly more invested in that than I am in Wednesday, Tyler and Xavier's supposed love triangle. Enid standing up to Wednesday for her cold behaviour was honestly one of the best scenes.
“You want to be alone, Wednesday?! Be alone!” and Wednesday crying in front of their window absolutely broke me
And their little war of words/insults when Enid comes back to try to appologize 😭😭
Enid sticking up for Thing made me adore her. I love their little friendship.
Hi again trina
I inherently love a harem moment. I’ll say it, I’m a simp for simps
It's crazy how Thing had more personality in this show than Tyler and Xavier combined
"whenever I think I'm being queerbaited is not because I'm being queebaited it's because I'm delusional" YOU'RE SO REAL FOR THIS
Honestly the dynamic between Xavier and Wednesday is so funny. She literally just smacks him down at every turn
Pretty sure Wednesday does not realize the irony of hating her mother so much, but that is also how Morticia treats Gomez... Psychological effects of being raised in a family like theirs. Wednesday really is a LOT like Morticia, and that would really drive Wednesday crazy(er) if she could ever bare to think about it deeply enough.
@@jamescurfman3284bro that is NOT how Morticia treats Gomez. The fuck have you been watching????
@@crystalwang1532 I guess it depends on which portrayal of Morticia we are talking about. I have not seen the original series in so long that I have basically forgotten things about that version.
In the movies, Anjelica Huston's Morticia was rather cold and distant.
Catherine Zeta-Jones' Morticia tries to be much more warm but ALL of the portrayals of Morticia seem to be control freaks to some extent.
@jamescurfman3284 Huston's Morticia and the OG Tish, were not controlling at all of Gomez.
They're madly and deeply in love with each other, and enthusiastically and thoroughly support each other in their hobbies and interests.
If this version comes off that way, then it's due to either direction, or a deliberate choice on Zeta-Jones' part.
Trin's hatred for Xavier is so funny bc I felt the exact same way when I binged this show.
same! i never understood why everybody was swooning for him
You have allies boo! I can’t with that child
Same proud member of the hate Xavier fan club
I'm so glad to find other people that hate him. i called him "little bitch boy" the whole time while watching the show. i don't get everyone's fascination
@@abby.l.c fr like he just pissed me off
Wednesday is someone who takes a LOT to swoon, but the fact that she fell for a stuttering barista and a “tortured” artist absolutely boggles me.
Tbh, it would probably make more sense for her to swoon for Enid after watching her tear the shit out a the Hyde to save her. Like THAT would make her feel some type of way. Not the two basic white boys that I didn’t notice were different people until three episodes in
@@crystalwang1532 absolutely! It just felt like Netflix wanted a love triangle so they threw one in (It won’t be a Netflix show without one! That isn’t cancelled) that’s probably why it felt so emotionless.
@fionaflop300 don't blame Netflix
This is the only show on Netflix I seen with one
And I watched lots
Both of the “love interests” were unbearable this season like I loved the show but I can’t stand them blaming Wednesday for not reciprocating their feelings
Tyler was doing it to be manipulative. Xavier is fixated on Wednesday (she saved him when they were children then he saved her) and is frustrated that she doesn't share his feelings. Both are totally predictable young man behavior.
Tyler and Xavier were both so poorly written, and the actors just weren't charismatic. I wouldn't have minded a love story in the show if they had gotten better actors who actually had chemistry with Jenna Ortega.
@@thomasolson1154 then it seems like young men are the problem. If ur that butthurt over a girl rejecting you, time to look inward, boys
@@crystalwang1532 Tyler was being manipulated by a mother figure, Xavier has an absent mother and a manipulative ex-girlfriend. Remind me again of when anyone held a teenage girl responsible for her actions?
my biggest problem was that wednesday would have any romantic relationships at all?? her whole thing is that she hates emotions but she goes weak in the knees for every caucasian man that she comes across??? she gives off such aro ace vibes let's be so fuckin forreal
Christina’s riccis Wednesday also had a romantic interest?
I completely agree she just wants to use other people she made it clear she doesn’t want friends or more than that i wish they would have stuck with that instead of giving in to assuming everyone wants coming of age teen romance
As a hunger games book reader and as the biggest peeta Stan I fucking hate Tyler.I think we didn’t watched the same show.I fucking hate him sm.He almost killed Enid, thing and eugene and also Wednesday.everything he did was fake.I obviously love Xavier as the biggest peeta lover
what on earth made u think that wednesday reciprocates those feelings. she had no interest in xavier whatsoever and tyler manipulated her into liking him. i agree that i think she's aroace but she was weak in the knees for no one
You make no sense
i think the point of her being the “outcast of the outcasts” is more about them hearing rumors she’s a killer and her lack of empathy, like they’re all different but they still act like normal kids
but that wasn’t believable at all, her being the outcast of the outcasts was what really made the show sink to the bottom. I hated that.
@@albanabrahiimaj6384 exactly. It would've be more interesting if the other outcasts were weird like her too. Not just some ppl w powers
it would have been more compelling if the outcasts were also… weird? like the social cliques made the whole idea of embracing your weirdness and finding a safe space redundant because they are somehow still enforcing social hierarchy/ likeness . the story would have been far more interesting if wednesday came to find that she wasn’t strange, but different/ people embraced her rather than rejected her.
The fact of the matter is, when you get enough people together (particularly teens/preteens), no matter how similar in struggles or interests, there's always someone(s) who's on the edge. Just look at school clubs, office politics, or even families.
@@albanabrahiimaj6384literally how just bc theyre supernatural doesnt mean theyre psycho
I agree that it was SOOOO annoying that everybody was mad that she didn’t give a damn about them 😂
Like she made her STANCE KNOWN 😂
I think it’s bc they all thought they could change her 😂 they were mistaken
@@michelleramirez7157 The only ones who eventually got it were Enid and Eugene.
Right? Like argue with the wall, not Wednesday! 😭✋🏾
Her and Xavier... they have Z E R O chemistry.
Wednesday doesn’t have chemistry with anyone though, which is kind of the point of Wednesday. But no, gotta put a dumb love triangle plot in for no reason.
@@connorjohnnn i agree she doesn’t need a love interest
Tyler thinking Wednesday was giving him signs just bc he likes her and she existed near him is so accurate to so many basic bitch boys
the biggest thing that didnt sit right with me throughout the whole show is the feud between wednesday and morticia
its not a fued
Yeah, I feel like a simple disconnect would have been suitable to experiment with in the story, but the full-on standoffishness was just so out of spirit for the Addams.
@MrsMars It’s understandable given common tropes, but it’s cliche and straight up out of character for the Addams. It’s good to see examples of communicative family relationships, add some variety to representations of family dynamics.
Some families are really like that, especially wealthy families. They can afford to be such assholes. Plus, being manipulators seems to come naturally to people who were born to big money. Morticia is a huge manipulator. And I adore Catherine in that role, she's an awesome actor!
You know what I just realized, where tf were the rest of the teachers!?!? Like I did not see a single adult outside with the students during the battle. I know damn well the head master and Laura were not the only adults teaching at that school
I mean there was the fencing teacher and the guy i call “hagrid” aka the groundskeeper in the background of a few scenes lmao
@@GeorgiePorgie127 Yes but where were they when the entire school was scrambling to get out and while they were waiting for authorities to arrive off school grounds? Do they commute to work? Do they live in a separate building and weren't told of the danger heading their way? I have so many questions lol
@@LyneDayes lmaoo true, I remember the fencing teacher was in pyjamas in the dorm when bianca used her siren song to tell him to get the students out so i assume they just have rooms there? But if thats the case wouldnt they question why thornhill doesn’t stay there (since she slept at the gates house lol)
@@LyneDayes did u not watch they were under siren song and were just told to evacuate the school
You did see them bruh pay attention
xavier is the epitome of a nice guy smh
Wouldn't that be Tyler? He gave such an Incel vibe with the "all the signs you're sending"
I mean he was right to be mad at Wednesday. He was more mad about her accusing him than rejecting him.
@@jeffpage1000 I would agree if the line between what was Tyler and what was MsThornhill wasn't so blurred, was he just saying it because she wanted him to grow closer to Wednesday? It's hard to distinguish what's genuinely Tyler and what's him manipulating Wednesday under the power of Ms. Thornhill. While Xavier is just genuinely whining about every single woman in his life. Either way they both suck lmao
I seriously don't know why Bianca was pining so hard after him when she was clearly the better one😭
@@coragilbert8307 Facts👏👏
Even Jenna said that she doesn’t want the love triangle she said she’s going to fight it so let’s hope
She talked with the writers and they said that there won't be any love triangle :)
@@MayTheSwiftie13 is this verified info? Hooray
@@Abril-1234 yeah she said it herself in an interview! :D
Eugene was my fav side character. He was so good. He cared about wednesday so much. Seen too much eugene slander recently 😤😤😤
SLANDER???? How could you slander eugene? If you hate him, you hate happiness
Wednesday and Eugene are endgame
@@ayannabranchcomb7535 exactly!!! Hes incredible
@@Zephur0s well idk about that, because Wednesday said he reminded her of her brother… so that will seem weird since they already set them up as a sibling relationship.
W is comfortable with Eugene. He is her little brother from another mother. And he is dorky -- inclined to monologuing about bees ... a bit like her obsession with the morbid (as her mother notes). She copes with Eugene's style of social interaction much better than with Enid's social and emotional talk -- and Enid does not cope with Eugene at all -- her social skills are limited too, just in a different direction. Everyone talks about the relationship between Enid and Wednesday, and Wednesday's "lack of social and emotional skills", but the relationship between Eugene and Wednesday shows off Wednesday's ability to relate to fellow social and emotional outcasts, rather than to fellow magic outcasts who are extrovert party-types like Enid. Wednesday relates comfortably to people like herself and not with her opposites, and Enid relates comfortably to people like herself and not with her opposites. Wednesday is not the only one with limited social skills; it is just that her comfortable social type is a minority -- e.g. just Eugene and her (and Fester when he turns up).
Wednesday: i don’t want to be friends with anyone I’m just here to be goth Nancy drew
Everyone else: why don’t you care about me 😱
She was that way with everyone except Enid and Eugene so I actually got why Enid was mad at her. Wednesday started showing that she cared at least a bit for Enid
Literally could not understand where Xavier was getting that Wednesday liked him the whole show. For Tyler I somewhat got it - like I guess she did seek him out a little bit? but the only person she actively went out of her way to connect to were Enid and Eugene. Eugene was clearly a brotherly figure. You can see a marked change in how she spoke to Enid, how she cared about her opinion, how she softened herself around her. They should have been together! Smh They even paralleled Enid’s shift story to coming out ffs
1. Xavier has been thinking of Wednesday since she saved him from being cremated.
2.He broke up with Bianca because she is competitive and manipulative. Wednesday is so uninterested in him , he knows she wouldn't bother trying to manipulate him.
3. Saving her from the falling statue has triggered his protective tendencies and now he feels a sense of responsibility. Lots of young men cant differentiate between feelings of protectiveness towards someone and romantic feelings.
She is so Tyler multiple times throughout the series even saying out loud to Xavier that she's here for Tyler
Wednesday: exists and has a deadpan expression.
Tyler: YOU'RE SENDING ME MIXED SIGNALS
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 Wednesday does use Tyler several times to get what she wants -- e.g. a ride out of town to the railway station. He assumes it means more than that.
@@himbo754 Exactly. Asking someone for a favor doesn't mean you want to kiss them. This is incel logic. If I borrow a book from some guy or ask him for a ride because he's the only person I know with a car and free time doesn't mean I want to bang.
Someone should teach these types of boys that there's more to interacting with women than wanting to bang.
thing and jenna carried the entire show on their backs in my opinion, it's a fun little series but if u think about it too much it has a lot of problems, in my opinion anyways
Yeah, I thought that if we didn't have Wednesday, the show would be just a standard teen series... I realized that her personality and Thing made everything in the show worthwhile
yeah i loved it but at yhe same time i am keenly aware ofhow many flaws it has lol
@@laylammorais unfortunately if it was darker (which I'd prefer) then less ppl would watch it
it's the fact i also fell for tyler bc he did the bare minimum lmao you're not alone bestie
I like that Eugene was able to have his Neville Longbottom moment.
"hes doing the bare minimum and i'm eating it up" me anytime i meet a 6ft tall fluffy haired blonde boy that reminds me to take my iron supplements
how many times are you meeting 6 feet tall fluffy haired boys and tell you to take your iron
…and where can I find em
Seeing Hunter talk in interviews makes me more impressed with his performance because at first I was like why is his mouth barely moving? Is this voiced over? What is going on? And then seeing who he is as a person, he totally created a character and I love that! So many people play themselves and he really didn’t
I was the most annoyed that they were mad every time she acted like herself. Like these characters built up and idea and she crushed it every time and they had the audacity to be SURPRISED???
“It was so easy to tell who the Hyde was from the beginning”
-person who was spoiled before watching the show😢
Exactly.
Fr how she gonna say that 😭
Lmao because I fully had no idea who it was until that scene 😂 I 100% thought the therapist was the one behind it all. The only thing I was right about was the resurrection plot
@@ayannabranchcomb7535 Omg thank you, same.
it was very predictable guys, I didn’t know anything about the show before I started it and I knew it was gonna be him
I dont care much about the romance in this show at all, but it kind of surprised me that Tyler being a murderous monster crossed the line for Wednesday. Like, your family is full of murderers. The opening scene is you trying to kill people. Seems like it'd be a requirement for her 😂
Except he did nearly murder Eugene who she sees as a younger brother, so I imagine that more than anything would cross the line with love interests.
@@English3Muffin Yeah probably. Then again if they were willing to forgive Debbie for everything she did to Fester, maybe he'd have a slim chance lol
There was also him (or probably Laurel but he'd still be connected to) almost murdering Thing. That cut her deep (pun fully intentional)
@@roseanne7411 I completely forgot that even happened oops. Yeah that was pretty bad
I thought she was going to be into it😹 I feel like that’s on her radar lol. I like how in the episode where they kiss she acknowledges that a murderous monster was her “type”
I hope their won’t be a “ love triangle” in the second season.
unless it’s enid and bianca
Wensday doesn't have visions but her mother is mentioned to know dark arts in the movies. So is not that farfetched... plus magic and crazy fits are shown all the time arround the Addams family
also there’s a literal disembodied hand walking around 💀 wasn’t the granny a witch too? Trin needs to watch the Christina Ricci movies
Also in this show they mention she got the powers recently so her not having them as a kid still makes sense
I mean you can't really compare previous Addams media with this movie because everywhere else Addams were just humans, they weren't supernatural beings or had any kinds of powers but in this series they are supernaturals and they do have unique powers.
Wednesday gave eind more signals than tyler ever got
No she didn’t lol 😂 you guys are really busting a cell to look for queer relationship
@@tokki6085 Yes she did. She was at least nice to Enid every once in a while (which is a pretty big deal with Wednesday). She was out here straight up lying to Enid about the snood to spare her feelings. “He breaks your heart and I’ll nail gun his”
Wednesday actual gave signals that she liked her while her signals to Tyler were just “I need a ride 😐”
@@tokki6085 str8 people are literally not allowed to be friends unless gay people can project their fantasies onto them.
@@crystalwang1532 and what is romantic about that?
@@drakethesnek6429 Relax bitch.
They're just saying she was nicer to Enid then both love interests. Emphasising that the chemistry and signals were actually none existent from Wednesday and the guys getting mad that she hardly reciprocated their feelings was just plain silly cuz she gave her friend more "signals"..
Not that she was actually queer.
alternative title: "Hating Xavier from Netflix's Wednesday for 41 minutes and a half minutes straight"
Hahahahaha
📝 if you see Trin in public and she winks at you, it means she’s in love 📝
If I see Trin in public, I'm going to wink at her, just to alarm her
Don't worry the whole cast ships Enid and Wednesday you are not delusional (this time)
my issue with the show is that the Addams family is meant to be the dark, odd family surrounded by average people, which is why they stand out so much. The Addams family members are also just humans with abnormal interests which is what I loved about the original show, then the movies. I didn't love that they made it a supernatural show, because that's not what any of it is except with the odd people in their family that are mentioned as having 3 arms, or like thing, but no one else things that's normal and no one understands them.
idk if you noticed but the “i prefer spooky” part is a nod to the addams family song. “they’re creep and they’re kooky mysterious and spooky they’re all together ooky the addams family”
It may be Wednesday’s show, and she IS an absolute icon, but miss Enid Sinclair is the real star in my heart
@@yeano1109 cuz she is the bestest
Thing is the MVP though
@@yeano1109 nah fr I thought she was annoying 😭
@@yeano1109 i’m so confused too😭😭 i mean she’s not the worst but she ain’t allat
most unrealistic thing is wednesday not throwing up when she heard dua lipa’s physical
As much as I love Tyler and Wednesday’s chemistry/relationship, I honestly feel that it would’ve fit Wednesday’s character to not even have a romantic plot line to begin with. However, if they had paired her with Enid as her romantic love interest instead, I’d be all for it.
we can all agree that the main issue of the show is the dryass chemistry between wednesday and her 'love interests' like i aint even gonna scream for a canon wenclair (they had sm more chemistry tbh). asexual wednesday wouldve actually made more sense lol
I never understood why characters like Tyler and Xavier and even maybe Enid felt like Wednesday owed them attention or love or something it annoyed me so much
Tyler is in character to seek Wednesday, the rest I don't know
Yeah all three of them had this "i can change her" attitude. Xavier expected her to care about him when she had no real reason too. Enid wanted her to do thing she likes doing, like when buying her a dress she takes her to a place she likes and never considered what even appeals to Wednesday and still expected them to be Bff's somehow. Tyler turned out to be an exception so points to him(and laurel) for actually appealing to her dark personality to sabotage her.
I don’t think Enid felt like Wednesday owed her anything she was just upset that she was lied to and almost got killed but Wednesday didn’t seem to understand why she was upset which is what made her leave
Trin is me with the Tyler and Wednesday scenes HAHAH
Team Tyler 4 life
@@ms.swiftx fr wyler for life
Same
@@ms.swiftx yikerssss
Absolutely i literally be screaming everytime there’s a cute scene lmao
I think the whole romance thing is what is wrong with the show. Wednesday is amzing on her own, yeah bring in friendship, but the whole romance thing killed the show for me.
Trin saying "Garrett" instead of "Gale" when talking about the Hunger Games love triangle 😂
Trin: we could all tell who the monster is
Me: 🧍🏽♀️not knowing until the very last minute
The Wednesday show just has none of the charm that the 1964 Addams Family show did. They were an odd family that genuinely thought their “difference” wasn’t actually different. They were cute,loving, and funny. Also, why’d they make pugsley younger and less devious than Wednesday? He would NOT have been bullied in the original! If he was then he would’ve invented something to get back at them since he liked to invent wacky shit in the show. I also didn’t like that everyone was constantly pushing their feelings onto Wednesday and constantly trying to push her to be someone she’s not. She’s socially awkward, introverted, and likes to keep to herself. People need to stop overstepping her boundaries and assuming things about her.
Finally someone has said it
Yes thank you!! In the show people were scared of the Addams- no way anyone would have even thought to bully Pugsley. The new show is trying too hard to follow a pattern of what Netflix thinks today's generation likes, that I wouldn't even recognize this show as being an Addams family spinoff if it weren't for their names. The best parts of it honestly were the callbacks to the older Addams and I was so sad when uncle Fester didn't do the lightbulb trick :(
The only part I disagree with you is Wednesday’s character arc. This is the first time we see her away from her family so I think it’s important for her arc to be about learning to care about people other than her family, and making connections with others.
Her relationship with Eugene and Enid are the center point of her character development. And people change as they age. 10 yr old Wednesday doesn’t need to learn to care for those outside her family (cuz she’s never away from them). 15 yr old Wednesday does
@@crystalwang1532 it still doesn’t take away from the fact that everyone was over stepping her boundaries and expecting her to be a happy sunshine when she’s not. Eugene is the only one who didn’t push his friendship or anything onto her.
Yeah those were my feelings when I watched it as well, the family dynamic was off. They have always been a loving, non-judgmental, and supportive family and the fact that Wednesday didn't feel supported by her parents, mostly Morticia, didn't sit right with me.
Pugsley has never been written very consistently but there is no way he would be getting tied up and shoved in a locker unless he wanted them too.
Wednesday is a such a fantastic series and the titular character is easily Jenna Ortega's best role yet! Glad to see your reaction to it, Trin!
I love how we skipped most of the fight/family scenes in favour of ragging on Xavier the whole time
The emotional rollercoaster Trin goes through during any scenes with Xavier had me screaming
Tyler DOES speak weird in the show!! Listen to him in interviews, I noticed the raspy-ness of his voice when he speaks in the show is non existent when he talks normally, I think it must’ve been something Tim Burton asked him to do.
It's him trying to sound straight and i love that it comes out so emotionless and bland 💀
he made his voice like an octave lower because he was trying to sound straight
You're so right about the lacklustre supernatural aspect of the show, ppl hardly used their powers and I still don't get how Crackstone was suddenly powered up at the end? What was in his staff? Was it a part of the resurrection ritual?
i think jenna makes the show like 10x more enjoyable cuz she's amazing. i think why it feels a little off sometimes for me is bc i think they put a lot of work into developing wednesday bc shes a culture classic that the side characters feel a little underdeveloped
I literally felt the same way. Everyone was so hurt when Wednesday didn't act a certain way meanwhile, she's literally never given them any reason to think she would act that way. They were actually just hurting their own feelings. It's so annoying! Leave Wednesday alone!
I love the actor who played Tyler, really, I do. He is clearly SO talented, especially that last scene at the station. I just don't like how the character talks at times it made me wanna slap him ahahaha
In other Addams movies/shows she doesn't have powers but it was always indicated Mortica and the family were "special" (witchcraft, mystical, etc..)
I’m actually screaming love you trin!! Also literally Same the way I saw Tyler and Wednesday interact once and literally started giggling in my seat
im a whole believer that tyler and wednesday could still work this out if anything his betreayal added it fuel to their chemestry and me shipping them
fr i feel like even tho she doesn’t need a love interest it would work
I love how we had the same thoughts whilst watching this show.
Loved Tyler, got me blushing and giggling. Did not care for Xavier at all. You're so true with the hunger games parallels lol
Overall, an alright show. Wild that this beat stranger things 4's record for most watched.
Trins confusion with the mixed signals at 16:30 was literally me. I had to rewatch the first episodes cause I didn’t know where he got that Wednesday liked him 😹 then it all makes sense at the end.
Wednesday and Enid? Sure, it could make sense, but come oonnnnnn Wednesday and Bianca are righttt there on a silver platter!😩 Their chemistry? *chef's kiss* The tension? *butthole clenching* and they would be good for each too and bring so much to eachother's characters, they are the power couple we need and the enemies to lovers we deserve, they could rule the world together and we'd let them😭 Now that or Wednesday is also clearly just the Ace queen the BLT community has been waiting for, it's time we give our ace babies some love too 😂
It actually sounds good! But I just had not enough of their interactions:(
31:32 It took you so long to figure out Xavier looks like the hyde in human form, with those buggy eyes lol Perfect casting for a red herring.
I HATED Tyler and Xavier because they honestly came off as self proclaimed “nice guys.” I was super confused because I didn’t think Wednesdays actions toward them were romantic AT ALL. On top of that they both seemed so pushy about it and ignorant of Wednesdays feelings or how she may have seen it in general. The only one I genuinely liked at the end was Enid because she gave Wednesday space even though she was hurt and didn’t understand. I know she was pushy about Wednesday being her friend but that’s less egregious than feeling entitled to someone’s attention/affection because you do things for them. That’s gross.
I'm living for Trin always matching the series' or movie's vibe
THANK YOU for the Xavier comments. That boy was such a frustrating character and seeing all of the love for him online has been confusing at best. I think I enjoyed the show a bit more than a 2.5/5 but I definitely get where you're coming from with Netflix doing the same supernatural stuff over and over again to only cancel the shows after one season. Also, the Teen Wolf mention was so spot-on. I had gotten the Hyde reveal spoiled before I watched so the entire time I was trying to figure out who else was in on the whole thing and having it turn into a similar plot as the chimera was pretty fun imo! The entire time I was also comparing Tyler to Void Stiles and I must say, the scene in the police station where Tyler says "What does it feel like? To lose?" was GIVING void stiles through and through. Great video Trin :)
In my opinion, the writers didn't do well in terms of writing relationships and even friendships. Wednesday and Enid are really cute to see together and so many people even ship them (me included), but truth is we feel something for them because we can put them into a trope. Sunshine x Grumpy trope to be exact. When you really look at the show, they didn't have much build-up for us to feel a bond between them. In fact, none of the relationships did!
I feel like they tried to go for the "bad guy vs. cute guy" with Xavier and Tyler but it didn't work, because again, no build-up. They didn't properly go into depth with their characters, we can't feel anything. Whenever either of them make a move on Wednesday, it makes the viewer feel like some interactions have happened behind the scenes to make Tyler, Xavier or even Wednesday feel the way they do.
the issue: wenclair not canon
I feel like I’m the only one who never thought Tyler could be the Hyde. I clocked Ms Thornhill pretty early, but I was so focused on her I never suspected him
I think my problem was that I was so annoyed by the love triangle and both love interests that I didn’t even consider Tyler as the monster, just really fucking annoying. 😂
why does this kinda remind me of that one spongebob scene where spongebob goes "i've got my eye on you" to a plant and patrick comes in saying "hey spongebob" then spongebob is distracted by patrick
team tyler all the way, low key was upset he ended up being the villain because I loved him so much
'that's what a love triangle should be, everyone ends up alone' lmaooo
Xavier gives me a "nice guy" feelings and that's one of the reasons why i don't vibe with his character. Like he is cool until things stop going as the way he wants or he gets rejected. Everytime Wednesday suspected at him or was seen with Tyler, he would immediately start being rude and throwing a tantrum like she owed him something.
I don't like Wednesday in a love triangle, but Tyler got me blushing!!
i mean, in Addams Family Morticia states that she majored is spells and hexes so when wednesday has powers i didn't even bat an eye
I very much liked the show but the love triangle I could do without and the finale was a bit rushed. Other than that I really liked this show with episode 4 being my favorite. Jenna Ortega is this generation’s scream queen and I’m living for all of it. Can’t wait to see her in scream 6.
I’m so glad you hate Xavier too because he got on my nerves. He was OBSESSED with no reason to be. Definition of “nice guy”
Also about time someone else felt the moment in the woods when Tyler grabbed her jacket. The TENSION there!!!! 👀👀 “flattery will get you nowhere” 🥵
but i think they are going to give them a relationship becuase they made a childhood backstory for them and gomez is absolutely OBSESSED with morticia so i think that’s why wednesday likes him kinda deep down, and she says she has a type and she only suspected 2 people as the killers, tyler and wednesday. i bet she would love a devoted obsessed significant other
@@lolaauty she didn’t have an recollection of him from childhood though. Only the story once he reminded her. That’s not a cute childhood love story. Also Wednesday HATES how obsessed her parents are with each other. Doesn’t seem fitting for her character to desire that. If they are setting up an epic endgame love story for them, they did a poor job of showing Wednesday have any romantic interest in him. Just didn’t come through for me at all. One sided.
every time trin finds a boy cute im like girl please.... dont leave me here
i know she apologises but
17:13 my mom guessed it was tyler in the first three episodes, then the xavier red herrings threw her off. my dad thought it was xavier, then one of the adults, then laurel gates. we are on the last episode and my mom says that the master is the sheriff or weems (dad has caught on, but he also fell for the kimbott fake out). so apparently it isn’t clear to everyone
I love this show so much! This season was giving twilight in the fact that Xavier was giving Jacob and Cafe Boi was giving Edward.
I think Xavier's dreams are and implication that he is having visions, powers are passed down and his father does have them as well. That's what I don't get from the whole show, nobody (even people with powers) takes a second to think and put things together.
I also think the whole Monday's child song is funny and makes sense, she is a Friday's child that were supposed to be caring and giving or something like that, and she end up caring about people.
Tbh, it was overhyped. Like the best thing about it was Jenna’s portrayal and “Thing” but other than that, it’s pretty average. I might get hated but I don’t get the obsession about Wed and Enid’s friendship like yall acting like their friendship was iconic when I didn’t feel any chemistry and they weren’t even with each other that much. Wed’s relationship with the bee kid was much more endearing.
completely agree i feel like im going crazy lol everyone loves it
it's because sunshine x darkness is a very popular ship trope. i'm not very invested but i do think wednesday seems to like enid more than xavier or tyler lmao
Finally someone said it. I didn’t really feel anything special from their friendship. Don’t get me wrong, I like it, but putting Wednesday with Enid feels just as bland as with either of the boys tbh.
The only friendship that got me to feel something was her friendship with Eugene.
glad im not the only xavier anti... even though it was obvious I kept wanting to think the monster was literally anyone but tyler cause I could not handle them trying to make me like Wednesday and xavier together, I don't want it, he's the worst
Can you explain how he’s the worst. When he was litrally the most truthful and genuine character throughout the whole show. Like I didn’t like how she kept picking on his character. Yes he invaded Wednesday space alot. But did he kill her friends? Did he lie to her? No, rather he protected her and warned her plenty of times about Tyler. And also saved her life TWICE. If you call the WORST then man you’re expectations must be low
worda bro y’all make him out to be way worse than he really was lol. he did make me annoyed at times but overall, he’s not the worst. y’all do too much.
im so happy to see you calling out xavier so many people ignore all his toxicity its so refreshing to see someoen calling it out
The cooky spooky line was an ode to the old theme song haha
Morticia,Grandmama and Wednesday are sorta implied to have a certain degree of clairvoyance in the comic strips and cartoons but this show is the first to officially confirm it.
you bullying xavier was the highlight of my year i swear 😭
can’t get over the background????? so iconic
since it's already cancelled, i need you to watch Warrior Nun. Yes, it's on netflix and a "supernatural"-esque show. BUT it really is one of the best shows ever created. The plot, cinematography, character development and even the score. Please do give it a chance.
Lmao thank you for being Team Tyler even despite him being the monster cuz that bare minimum chemistry got me too ✊🏽😂 That other guy was sooooo whinyyyyy lol
Personally, I don't want to see Wednesday and Enid together, because I feel like their relationship being platonic has so much more meaning to it, especially considering how Wednesday seems to act as if she doesn't need anyone, I feel like Wednesday should stay single, since it would distinguish this show from other shows, since the main character almost ALWAYS ends up in a relationship.
thought i wouldn’t like this commentary but you’re spitting… tyler needs a redemption arc