New Porsche Macan revealed: I’m totally SHOCKED!
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
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Say hello to the all-new Porsche Macan!
Porsche’s mini SUV has had a major revamp for 2024, and there’s one key difference - it’s gone fully ELECTRIC! That’s right, the ICE-powered Macan is officially gone forever. But does this all-electric SUV have what it takes to win over the Porsche faithful?
Well, let’s take a closer look. Starting with the exterior design, the new Macan doesn’t stray too far from the old Macan. Starting at the front the grille has been swapped for a larger, lower air intake, and the new headlights are almost exactly the same as what you’ll find on the Taycan. The side-on silhouette is almost identical to the previous Macan, and while there have been a few design changes to the rear end, we don’t think it’s that much of an improvement compared to the old model!
Step inside and the new Macan is pretty similar to the Taycan. But of course, that’s no bad thing! The driver gets a curved display, there’s a large infotainment screen in the middle, and even the front passenger gets their own screen built into the dash! As you’d expect the cabin is packed full of high-quality, soft-touch materials, and the seats look super comfortable.
One thing this all-electric Macan isn’t short on is performance! The entry-level dual-motor can produce 408hp, while the top-of-the-range Turbo can put down 640hp and an eye-watering 1,130Nm of torque - that’s 80Nm more than the Taycan Turbo S! Porsche also claims it should be able to hit 60mph in just 3.3 seconds.
The new Macan will start at around £70,000, rising to around £95,000 for the Turbo edition. But is it worth it?! You’ll need to stick with Mat and see for yourself!
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:24 Design
01:07 Electric
01:37 Chassis
02:25 Interior
04:12 Performance
06:33 Technology
07:42 Aerodynamics
08:35 Batteries & Range
09:24 Interior Space & Seats
10:08 Driving & Suspension
10:53 Price & Release Date - Авто та транспорт
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Ok👍👍👍
Mat Watson looks like Ken miles 😮😮
Evs need lighter higher energy dense batteries as high as atleast 450wh/kg cells otherwise they wont be popular any time soon because they are too heavy and not practical at all,people want at least 400 miles on highway 70 mph range
@@Ahmedwaleedelsheikhis Mat Watson more like Ken Miles 2.5?
Calling it a turbo with no turbo is a crime.
Womp womp
i do hope they change that, it is a bit stupid ngl
They have been doing it since the Taycan.
idk why people fuss about this so much. Turbo = fast, every kid can make that connection without knowing what a turbocharger is.
@@Breadfan00they could call ev fast models “boost” instead of turbo you know…
get ready for Mat saying PoooOooosh
Yes.
In the USA they say Pooscha
Porsche 👍
They should take his GT3 RS away 😭
Evs need lighter higher energy dense batteries as high as atleast 450wh/kg cells otherwise they wont be popular any time soon because they are too heavy and not practical at all,people want at least 400 miles on highway 70 mph range,i hope all comapnies will see my comment
Poooooooshe
Who else goes straight to the comments to see what others think?
I go str8 to comments to see if Powsche is mentioned. Can this drift around a burning Aventador?
Me 😂
its a disgrace how the german automobile industry and legacy are demolished for no rational reason at all.
Previous Macan is from now a valuable collector item.
2020 Macan also.
997 will be the most valuable. Last 911 before VW
@@paranoia800 You mean the 993, last 911 before water cooling.
I think what manufacturers are going to find is that hybrids are required in colder climates. So expect some sort of internal combustion no matter what. People have been losing half their range in cold weather plus degradation and are taking major depreciation losses on electric cars mainly because of the cost of battery repairs or replacement.
@@Mr.Ghost_og Explains why a tropical countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland and Iceland have the highest percentage of EV sales in the world.
they fucked up the rear end so bad😢
I was thinking same thing...front is nice but rear is just awful.
Even the front headlights look bad😢
It just looks like a Kia or Toyota... for 120 grand. Disgusting
@@ek5659front is ugly too. I hope, at least next 911 will be without these shitty Taycan headlights
@@Kulsarieff exactly, being electric may not be so bad,but why should they change the design..They r going backwards in the name of innovation
For some reason, those headlights now remind me of the old Kia Sportage. When the Sportage was launched, the lights looked like the front of a Porsche so it's gone full circle for me.
What I don't get, why did they do the split headlights? I get it on the BMW 7 series, their runninglights are so thin, the real headlights have to be somewhere else. But here? It seems like Porsche did split headlights just for the sake of having split headlights. I find this wierd, like the car has four eyes. And if you look at the taycan, size really shouldn't be a reason to do this.
@@skrlaviolette its probably becauso the area in wich the Headlights are in now would be so empty without them. On the old Macan there was an air intake at that place. I didnt like the split headlights at first too, but if you think about it it seems like a good decision
@@skrlaviolette i’d probably bet it has to do with regulations around the hight of the beam. Led lights reach far if they are also set very high on the car they will blind incoming traffic or you will need to point them downwards, hence you lower them to avoid that
You could BASE jump in the price gap between the macan and the EQE, jeez the undercut is ridiculous
The interior dash is great. Finally something that looks like a real car inside. No tacky large screen tablet display. Very stylish indeed.
The interior of the Macan 2024 looks like the 2006 TAKATA DOME NSX GT500.
@@purwantiallan5089 i should buy you some glasses
You mean finally something, that looks the same for almost two decades now? Wow what a stylish interior! 🤦
It needs HUD
it looks crowded and messy though..
Something you'll only see from a german manufacturer: Selling your car for 115K €...but making back-seat heating optional for 415€....love it.
Well, that's the great thing: you can CHOOSE it! If you want it, then you choose it. But if you always drive alone or as a couple anyway, the Porsche is more of a lifestyle product for you and your wife and you don't have any children who could ever ride along, you don't have to pay for something you would never use anyway. I think this is great! The freedom of choice. Nothing you have to pay for even though you won't use it once.
@@hochzeitsfotografseychelle2986 That's not my point. I would agree if we are talking about a Corolla or something else affordable...But for 115K, everything slightly related to comfort should already be standard.
For 115K€ you can buy a flat with sea view in the south of Portugal, imagine asking for an extra 415€ for two electrical conductors making a resistance to warm my seats 😂
It should be there, if you don't want a warm butt then don't turn it on. If you want a warm butt, because you got Company aus den Seychellen und denen ist kalt, then turn it on. Kapiert. ? @@hochzeitsfotografseychelle2986
The rear window wiper being optional is the real kicker!
I hate the trend of placing the lights below the daytime-running lights.
Mom i want a porsche macan gts!
Mom: we have a macan at home
The Macan at home:
Gotta love the interior of this car, absolutely amazing. I like the front end of the car, however the back not so much. When you look at the back of the car from a certain angle (diagonally) it looks weird, compared to the normal macan.
I think its because it lacks a spoiler
@@oket31 yeah i think so, the exhaust pipes play a lot as well I think ^^
Once the spoiler is out it’s nice just needs it as permanent feature
Agreed. However I'd give the design a month or two. Bet the rear end will grow on you
I totally agree, the back is weird, I preferred the old Macan. The rest of the car is great, and the interior is beautiful!
prefered the older versions look then this one butt crazy power
Butt
Hard disagree. This looks way better. Looks way more futurstic
The new version look better except the front end (way to big) imo.
Each their own opinion. It's a question of personal taste.
I also prefer the previous version, this one is a little too "bloby" for me.
@@edouard9867 I can spot the problem. The grill in the new model is located too low. And it is indeed ugly.
As a German, my heart is bleeding.. its called porscheeeeeee not porsch
367 miles in warm weather. Probably 157 in cold.
Heat pump is standard equipment in this, so expect around 30% less or about 257 in winter. The less powerful variant should make around 266 in winter.
@@Saddex still won’t be usable for winter road trips. I’ve had multiple friends think their battery was full. After 2 days being garaged in the cold it’s not. The system says they have 250 miles but it runs out after 125. We need 700 mile range for EVs to be practical beyond commuting cars.
@@arcadialive4265 do they have a heat pump? If not, yes, a 50% range loss is probably going to happen in well below freezing temps. With heat pump, 30-40% is more realistic below freezing. Highway range is of course going to be even less vs WLTP but that applies to ICE vehicles too.
For a lot of people it will probably be adequate, though ideally the summer range should probably be in excess of 450 miles to be considered practical across the board in Europe. The distances are relatively short and winters mild. In the EU, one of the planned provisions of the Euro 7 standard, mandatory winter range tests, was unfortunately scrapped. That was stupid because it would provide a lot of certainty instead of having to assume about a third less at freezing which is average loss demonstrated in tests. More without a heat pump and at colder temps.
@@Saddex they are great daily driver cars. Just get questionable for road trips. And yes, I googled the model just to make sure. They do have heat pumps. I have been told the worst they got was 125 mile range, when it said much higher on the gauge. I also guess the car can also drain while turned off during cold weather
@@arcadialive4265 mine loses about 1% every 2 days at -10 C or below. Though yeah, probably I assume it's a combination of things, including temps in that range.
Although since the trend is for batteries to get larger capacities with higher energy density, the range loss in winter should get proportionally smaller to some extent, as the energy used to heat the cabin per unit of time won't change and it takes much less energy to keep the cabin warm vs heating it up from cold even when driving a longer distance. Unless though you precondition the cabin while plugged in but then the overall loss should be even smaller proportionally. I generally don't believe in telling people what to do, though another option available to lower consumption is to use heated seats and steering vs the fans that could be considered.
Though yeah, for winter roadtripping EVs leave a bit to be desired even if I believe 700 miles WLTP probably is a bit overkill. 500 is probably going to be the sweet spot for the majority of people.
watch the resell value drop like a stone - 40% value in 3 years is my bet
I bet it will be even worse.
You people always say this. It’s never even remotely that extreme. You buy into the bullshit that people like Tyler Hoover spout about “luxury cars” losing value, and then they reveal that they bought some 20 year old S class with seats that look like they sat in the ocean and then say say “this is why you should never buy a new luxury car.”
@@conor7154 just look at the taycan market now, it's dropped an insane amount, it's not far-fetched to think the macan will follow the same path
model 3 down 40% minimum since 2021 @@conor7154
@@conor7154 They just don't like EVs, like an angry old man shaking his fist at the sky.
Should’ve put a permanent spoiler above the rear glass
Exactly! I don't really dig this design compared to the older one.
Agreed, but it would have reduced the range, which is a selling feature
And rear window wiper under spoiler
@@user-dd4op6ip3s - Kyle has said that the US spec will have a rear wiper as standard.
@@user-dd4op6ip3s the rear wiper is optional when you order it.
I like the range, hope it holds up to the claims.
Also, applaud Matt for making this vid as if in person review. Great job
367 mile EV range sounds about right for over a week worth of commuting. But let's be honest those are the inflated range test distances almost nobody in the real world would be able to achieve. I'd give it
325 at best, but still great for charging maybe 4 times a month.
@ev.whyking yes sir, I'm a professional drone operator and always need to go distant locations for commercial work.
Will be interesting to compare sales numbers to previous years.
Ye the mums who drive the kids to school 2 miles away will love it and that's about it!
They will crash completely.
The Taycan was the best-selling Porsche that is not an SUV since it came out. This Macan EV will sell well.
@@snakeeyes9246 in first year yes. Nobody buys taycans anymore.
Well I will not be buying one to replace my current one so that is one less.
What’s faster the 0-60 or the depreciation?
Or the quality of the UA-cam hate comments on this channel. Who knows?
@@CyAn-S That doesn't make sense. The quality of the UA-cam hate comments is faster?
Lloyd - I prefer your wit sir 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The 30-40% as soon as you drive it off the lot - and there's a depreciation hit buying any new car.
@@CC-hy6se he’s trying too hard to cope with his EV money pit
The 90% positive comments are mostly sales guys or Influencers for Porsche. Taycan Driver speaking. The car is very nice, but many times in the shop for electronic issues. It's a bother over 3 years.
I’m so tired of everyone doing electric cars.
My mates and I used to call the dash mounted clock “the tosser clock” when they first came out in the GT cars. 😂
Called turbo without a turbo😂
Porsche without a porsche engine
And nobody will buy it 😊
@@aaz1992 Maybe in another universe
@@aaz1992 The price for that power is actually quite good. It will sell loads.
@@aaz1992 this comment will be funny to look back at in a few years
Where I live, about 10 days ago, the temperature dropped to minus 20 degrees Fahrenheit, which killed many EVs as they could not be charged. Would this Macan be able to handle such low temperature?
EV manufacturers are working to solve this issue, however i doubt this Porche will be able to do it effectively unless they've got crazy new battery tech to fix it. Largely the easiest way to fix this is by warming the battery (similar to warming an ICE).
20 degrees does not kill the EV unless you were already at 10-15% residual charge. Key is to keep it topped off in the winter time. 30-40% loss of range is a real winter time issue.
@@tor-Norge Minus 20 degrees. Reread my comment.
@lancecahill5486 His point is still valid tho. The bigger problem are the people, who haven't got the slightest idea about how their vehicle works.
I suggest you move somewhere warmer … that sounds awful!
On the configurator, I spec'd mine to £135k.... Lol
now i really want a used one
The old Macan looked a lot better.
They should have just kept the eletric very similar don’t understand tbh.
They don’t want to sell ev’s, that’s why.
matt, we all want the: 'buy sell CARWOW' intro back man
Well, thanks to these EVs, Porsche is still able to offer us the 911s with great naturally aspirated engines. RIP Macan, you went down for a good cause.
The was Macan was a cheap POS. This one actually gets decent options
The Macan had never had a good engine in it, so what's to miss lol. They've never had a flat 6 or V8, only V6s or TT V6s. The Macan has always been another sporty SUV with an piss sounding V6.
@@bijdikh8516wish they made a turbo GT for the Macan as well, feel like it would have made more sense
@bijdikh8516 Don't forget the EA888 2.0T.
Aside from the GT3, aren't they all Turbos? Only one NA left.
I do like the daytime running lights 😮💨 it does look huge in video though
Sad to see the end of the ice macan 😢
Seems like a very strange move to me. Macan is Porsches highest selling model, and they make it completely EV when EV sales are slowing down. I also just don’t think a ton of people who like Porsche are big EV fans. I think this is going to hurt the company
If Porshe claims it is the same as the model Y, it's definitely better
I mean it better be its like 100k vs 40 to 50k XD
@@mcsike7264 20k of that is just the Porshe badge lol
Even still, the top spec of each is $95k to $68k
So can't call it cheap
And this could arguably compete with the X
@@ab3040 not plaid tho
@@mcsike7264 not in a drag race no
But on a track, I bet it does better
@@ab3040 ya i can see that but i don't think they inted to make it a track car all they did was put a modle s plaid power train in a X XD
The front looks great. It needs the rear spoiler to make it looks more like an SUV or an adjustment to the roofline.
I have a 2019 and feel it was a good value despite the price. The build quality and paint are excellent. Love the styling.
Totally agree about the spoiler and roofline, Porsche need to add it as option!
I’ve heard when the person who heads up the Options Department stands up to talk at the board meetings they stand, laugh outrageously and applaud. Followed by more laughter.
Great video, but I would really love if You could put the miles to km conversion on the screen when You talk about range so that the rest of the world does not have to stop the video to convert it, thank You.
dude, just halve the miles and add back to the base no of miles to give you km (i know it's actually x1.6 but for quick conversions it works)
From today forward, an old Macan GTS with low mileage will be a wise and enjoyable investment.🤠
I have an Olivetti typewriter you may want to add to your collection
@@johnn17golf EV's are one of the oldest car concepts.
@@jjay350 IC tech is well past its best before date. Time to move on to the better tech
The Macan likely has a smaller frontal area than the model Y, which will mean its drag difference is less than the CD figures alone indicate.The overall drag is measured by multiplying the CD (drag coefficient) by the frontal area A, giving CDA. This is what dictates overall aerodynamic drag , the CDA, not the CD.
The old Macan had a frontal area of 2.61 sq. m, the new one is quoted as being "less than the old one" (I could not find a figure), and the Model Y is quoted at 2.65 for frontal area. So the difference betwen the two, is less the the CD numbers alone suggest. (0.25 and 0.23). Think of a brick, it has very poor aerodynamics (poor CD) but a small area (A), so it will take less energy to push through the air than an EV, you need to factor in the area part of the equation as well as drag coefficient to give the overall picture.
The Tesla model 3 has exactly the same CD as the Model Y, but 20% less frontal area, so the CDA is 20% less. The 3 should be more efficient at a constant high speed cruise, if the motor etc. has similar efficiency.
Just to be clear… it’s the cd that ‘reduces’ the effective frontal area and hence a lower cd benefits a car with a higher frontal area. Eg a lotus elite has a smaller area than that of a model x but the model x has a lower CoD hence lower effective frontal area and therefore more efficient.
@@hamptonchivasa You need to multiply CD x A in each car to find out which will have lower drag. CDA is the number that matters. A lower CD won't always mean a car has less drag if frontal area is larger enough to outweigh the lower CD. In this case the frontal area of the Macan is less than the Tesla, but the exact amount less is not in print yet, so overall drag may be less on the Macan, or it may not, depending how much frontal area they've lost. CDA is the only number that matters. I feel that CD is misused quite a lot, it's not the full picture at all.
The time CD it can be fairly useful by itself is if the same car has aero tweaks to change the CD but frontal area is not affected much, such as comparing the effect of a big rear wing or lip spoiler on MPG, but it is still worth looking at CDA to get the true picture.
This must overcome Ioniq 5 N first. Provide stock car to test on Nurburgring, not by manufacturer themselves.
Ioniq 5 😂 it's so dated and an Hyundai. I don't think Porsche could care less
@@Nse19 How is Ioniq 5 N so dated? as similar spec as Macan turbo with 800V charging system nd better batteries but not even a half of price of Macan. Porsche would care.
@@alexcho0305 the design of the Ioniq 5 is dated. It's supposed to look futuristic but now it just looks old. And especially the inside looks and feel so cheap.
Macan and Ioniq 5 are playing in completely different leagues
Yes because porsche's target market is hyunadi customers 😂
I like how porsche is putting more Active Aero on their SUV's
I like the design ,the smaller grill opening is nice and active shutters on the bottom cooling grill is sweet! Very nice!
Nice.
My Genesis GV60 sport plus was about the same price as the Macan 4. The genesis is a bit smaller, a bit faster but about 100 miles behind on range. That 4 model will sell well I should think. I like the look of the turbo.
Genesis has much better interior and is better finished when it comes to materials.
The price of Maxan 4 is without options. 😄
@@Robertkajman I don't know if you have ever set in one before but that is absolutely not the case ^^
Genesis is complete trash.@@Robertkajman
@@Thecommentator-hc1fz How one of the most premium brand is trash, thinking that way you can also say the same about Bentley, Rolls-Royce.
Looks great. Sign me up for the RWD base model when that comes out in a year or so, with the added bonus of giving them a year to iron out any teething issues with the new-platform battery & engines.
I'm missing the part where he is totally SHOCKED.
It is kind of shame that CarWow, one of the biggest car channels on YT, to make these remote reviews based on pictures.
TURBO is for very fast electrons from the battery XD
and the value from the depreciation
@@djtaylorutube 😁
They should've started with a hybrid engine, the Taycan is not selling that well globally and this will have the same results. And when it comes to the used market, it takes a huge nose dive.
That and EV's always seem to sell best at first only to lose their sales volume quickly. The type of people who want them are usually the early adopters.
Calling any vehicle a "turbo" when it doesn't have one just feels kinda weird to me. 🤷♂😂
Nice video Matt! one minor thing, base on the US Porsche official website, the Macan EV 4 0-60mph is 4.9s and Macan EV Turbo 0-60mph is 3.1s
Probably accounted for by Mat quoting the European 0-100kph time, which is slightly slower.
@@jinxvrsindeed...100kph are 62mph and not 60
Newton meters should be "Nm" as this is correct as per international ISO standards for SI units.
Put me off as soon as you said “all electric”
One major advantage of the Macan and cayenne going electric is that it brings the emotions down so they can produce thirstier 911s and 718s
the price is a bit crazy compared to the ICE version, people are expecting the same or lower price, guess people in the eu will now rush to order the last generation of ICE macan now.
Yes maybe a few 1000 but most will not be that angry. UA-cam comments assume that their annoyances and views are the same for "most people". I am not saying I am correct either but it is not that bad.
@@CyAn-S considering the type of person that can afford this it probably doesn't even impact 99% of youtube commenters lmao.
@@jamesreichmann2129 lol so true 😂
I'm only interested in that kind of power if I get a free test track with the car. On another note it would be nice is someone came up with alloys that weren't really easy to kerb - the ones on this will look terrible in no time with most owners.
Every new porsche comes with an invite for 2 people to test your car in their facilities in germany
Maybe you can come up with some and make a lot of money.
@@matthewp9015 I think the answer is to reverse the trend for such low profile tyres and huge wheels. It would improve ride comfort too. I was lucky enough to have a Ferrari 328 many years ago when they were almost affordable, the tyres were always the first thing to touch to kerb when parking, no wheel scuffs in six years of ownership. People like the look of a full wheel arch though and for rome reason better handling at the price of ride comfort rules despite generally busy roads and low traffic speed these days.
I feel like the design is a 2005 futuristic design. Like they asked a kid, how do you think a car would look like in 2024.
5:16 is the closest Matt has ever come to pronouncing Porsche properly
Did they have to make it ugly
yeah
It does suck really 🤦🏻
Let's make a electric car but let's make sure it stands out and is obvious, while people want it to blend in and look normal
I love it. People hate changes and new things. In a few months everyone will love it. I bet it will sell just as well as the old Macan
@@N1ckZ For me I have a brand new 2023 Lexus RX and it's better than this Macan. 👌🏼👍🏼
Next time mention that it is an EV in the title so I don’t have to waste 1 minute.
Literally stopped watching the moment he mentioned its EV only
My parents have a 2017 macan with 150k miles that they planned on replacing with a new one… this was before they found out it was all electric…
why mention such things, nobody will make any ICE cars anymore, anyway. it is the present now.
@@jaydens9389 What were they doing, driving around the entire country all the time?
This could have been great without that goofy split headlight design, I can't wait for the VW group to be done with this phase...
I really love that they distinguish their EVs from their 911s, the deign might not be my favorite ever but it’s a theme and I like that!
It looks like the Genesis GV60 or the MG 4. The old one is much better looking!
Yep. Looks like a steep back for me in terms of overall look.
Would’ve been great with a 500hp+ version of the 2.9 litre V6 they recently dropped. Over all it’s an attractive SUV with a very nice dashboard and tech and it’s bound to drive very nicely.
What car has that engine with 500hp?
@@KK001 As this is only ever going to be a hypothetical it would be a fettled version of the 2.9 V6, that said it wouldn’t be too difficult to take them from 450ish hp to 500hp or more. Reputable “chip tuners” are doing it with ease on stage one tunes.
I could get along with the front but the back reminds me of a Prius 😅
They didn't get rid of the side blade like I'd hoped but it does at least look a little bit better.
Looks very smart 👌 maybe I'll pick one up in a few years once it's depreciated like a rock 🪨
Long line but your right..service may cost you your first born but sacrifices is what it's all about..the best thing is in 5 years time it will be yesterday's technology..great!!!
No you won't.
@RG-ld8wv probably will go for a taycan actually
As my model x does the job of being practical.
I wish they started off with hybrids 1st before committing to full EVs. EVs are cool (not to me) but I like the idea of doing daily commute in electric power then using the internal combustion engine for long distance driving.
Hybrids make no sense any more. They had purpose when there was no charging infrastructure but now the hybrid is pretty much a fossil. Old hat
In general, I really like the way the new Macan looks. Except the new headlight setup. The current trend of companies separating and stacking the DRL and headlights is hideous and the Macan's light setup is no different. It looks absolutely terrible.
Can we get the units for charging right? It is kW not kWh. kWh is the capacity of the battery.
This is an amazing redesign. It’s so impressive how Porsche can revise the design ever so slightly in still create a brand new vehicle. It definitely follows suit with the old adage that if isn’t broken don’t fix it that BMW needs to learn from.
Wow they managed to develop a door handles that actual human could use. Bravo Porsche.
Tesla handle look better and work just fine…unless you don’t have fingers?
Macan. MA.CAN there's no R in the name! Watson you utter flute 😂
I can't help feeling that either the new owners or the companies of EV's are going to lose a lot of money as people turn away from EV's... Someone's going to lose money.
Good to know what my dentist's next car will be...
I'm a dentist but I don't want to buy this shit. I will probably be the last person on earth to buy an EV.
@@ljuboizsiska5448 Good to know what you like not-a-dentist guy.
Can’t really compare it to Tesla model y being priced 20k above it. Also once the model y refresh comes out I’m sure people will choose it over the Porsche.
Nobody who can afford a Porsche will EVER chose a Tesla over a Porsche.
@@alainsprivatechannel7200 It’s not about affordability. It’s about practicality especially since it’s an EV, you’re going to pay 20k more just for it to depreciate by 20k in a year. That doesn’t make sense. I’m not a Tesla guy at all but logically it’s a bad comparison.
@@meech3889 If it is NOT about affordability, i.e. money doesn't count, then why would you chose a Tesla with lesser quality, less real world range, less prestige etc. over a Porsche? Your point about depreciation doesn't count if it's not about affordability - that's exactly my point. So I repeat - people who have the coins to buy a Porsche would never get a Tesla instead.
So basically the real world rage is 280- 320 in summer and 230 to 250 in winter.
Can’t wait to see the hybrid 911, hope they used the flux motor 6cy which can switch to 4 cy for eco and a crazy mode 800+ bhp I would be taking a loan out for one of them 😮
My wife has been wanting the GTS. We really like this one too, but the quotes to make our 6 year old house compatible with a charger (when looking at the Grand Cherokee 4xe) were astronomical. I think that may the be the biggest barrier of entry for us on electric vehicles.
No offense but I think you can afford it considering what you are willing to spend on a car 😂
@@sepplschpeedruns281 I could get a gently used Civic Type R here in the USA for the price we were quoted by three different electricians. So about 35% of what the GTS cost. And where we currently live, there would be no ROI at this point. In fact my state is trying to get dissuade electric vehicle sales. Its a real mess.
Why is that expensive?
It cost me only $1000 to install a level 2 charger box in my house garage in NY
Charge the car with a charger plugged in to a dryer outlet. That’s what I do and it’s perfect
@@hassanger8128 I wish I knew. I checked with other people and they are were +/- 10% of the quotes we got. My best guess is that since I live in Texas, anything that seems liberal gets an up charge. I know both quotes said the main cost had to do something with swapping the whole breaker box in the garage and moving it.
The front is nice. The rear looks like a failed butt job. The slope doesn't work that good on a short suv. They should've extended a by a few more inches to make it look better. 80k usd for a base model small suv is a lot. Most people will go with the cayenne. A new cayenne base is 72k.
Legacy EV with a decent front boot? Wow Porsche is really taking this EV thing seriously, congrats.
Surely the equivalent Merc is the EQC? I would have thought that the EQE is more aimed at the Cayenne? I also prefer the EQC interior to the new Macan but sadly it's due a refresh and Merc will probably plant one of those awful large portrait screens in the middle
Looks really cool but the Cayenne GT will always be cooler. I saw a few of them in Southern California and they were so cool.
Cayenne GT and BMW X3 both better than this Macan.
This car has got everything I like in a car except for the previous design and an internal combustion engine.
I gotta admit, the first look I had at the silhouette of the car a few weeks ago, the front looked weird but I'm actually surprised how well it actually looks.
But I don't like the back so much. It really does look weird
I love the interior tho! really nice
And the fact that a Porsche is cheaper than a Mercedes, yet still being better, makes me even more happy
Not that I could ever afford one but I still love the brand Porsche with all of my heart and soul
Let's hope the rear leg room is better than in the ICE version. The Taycan Cross Turismo offers more room for rear passengers, and could be considered more practical as a daily driver for the family. Also, I know Matt hates the passenger screens, but we find it really useful on the Taycan. Easier for passenger to control music, put in sat nav directions etc and the main screen continues to function. Not sure this Macan will take me away from my beloved Taycan (or the Taycan II just announced and available to build on the Porsche website).
I was so excited about it until you said no combustion engines...
I for one think it will turn out like the taycan, same fate 💀
Hopefully the Macan not suffer the same fate as Taycan does.
@@purwantiallan5089 here's to hoping
U realize all EVs depreciate. At least it didn't as bad as tesla model s plaid and model y performance
@@G82Watts buddy this isn't about depreciation 😂. It's about the issues the taycan has, it's really not as reliable as other EV choices mainly Teslas. I met one taycan owner in my country of origin (was the only family that imported a taycan at the time) & you could literally see the pain in her face as I asked the question 😂. It's real bad, surely hope they learned & the macan is different 🤷
@@CanisoGaming can u name one thing that made it not reliable.
TBH, if you want an electric Porsche, this makes a whole lot more sense than the Taycan. The Macan 4 has bigger battery and a WAY more range than a base Taycan, while costing 10+k less. You can upgrade the Taycan with a bigger battery, but it'll still have less kwh, and still have much less range. Lots of reports about Taycan's losing so much value on the 2nd hand market, well this will only make it worst.
Less expensive than I thought, still €40K euros more expensive when optioned out slightly similarly than a top trim fully specced Xpeng G9 Performance here in the Netherlands. And the G9 still charges faster, accelerates faster, and it only has like 3 options, instead of 250.
I will be surprised if it actually gets the 4 miles per kWh that it claims, but that would be pretty awesome for a vehicle of this size/weight to do that! That would be even better than the Bolt EV's efficiency.
Hint: it wont
I love it. People hate changes and new things. In a few months everyone will love it. I bet it will sell just as well as the old Macan.
I absolutely love the new chasis, I wish their was ice version but if they had to sacrifice a model due to regs then the macan is the perfect pick. I just hope the cayenne doesn’t go all electric, but they did make a statement making S and above models V8’s. I’m not sure so lets see what happens.
I love it because finally, I would be able to afford to purchase one for 70% off retail for a 2 years old used electric Macan
People hate it because it is popular on UA-cam comments to hate EVs.... The car looks fantastic imo
@@PainYT The Cayenne is definitely going electric with the same platform. It has been spotted testing on the roads with camouflage. Google it.
@@CyAn-Syeah people are definitely hating EVs because it's popular and NOT because they have some legitimate gripes 😐
Oh my gosh they actually changed it slightly, I guess it has been the routine 20 years of zero changes Porsche normally abide by
Not forgetting the Porche options trick. So now I believe I have the plan. Let a few people buy these with some great optional extras. Say 90k. Wait 6 years and go to British car auctions and buy one for 27k and then flip it for 30k. Most of the lease companies dump their Suvs their after 6 years when they are getting close to worthless. Or better still buy a Byd Suv after 6 years for 14k. Ok. All clear now.
Dump them there.
The old one was essentially a souped up Golf. This one has a proper platform. That in itself makes it worthwhile
Yeah, yeah, yeah, massive horsepower, massive torque, and on top of that, massive insurance premiums, so high that no one will want to fork out the money for it.
@carwow / Matt, 9:21 "the Macan comes with a built-in 11 kilowatt·hour AC charger".
Learn the difference between energy and power! This is a measure of power, so 11 kilowatts.
The most impressive thing about this car is Porsche is telling buyers of (relatively) compact crossovers "Ours only comes as battery-electric." The combustion age is truly ending.
That Macan better be as fast as the midrange Tesla for 3x the price lmao