For a budget hollow point bullet, XTP's work really well when their velocity is good. I'd give the win to the 155, it's slow motion was awesome. Thanks again for testing.
💪💯 I absolutely agree, was definitely a good performer, even without achieving its full potential 1500fps. Thanks as always my friend, I appreciate ya checkin it out!!
@@AzAirgunner. It'll achieve that 1500 out of a G20 and especially a G40 but that 29 definitely robs some potential. Even with the loss of velocity, it's still a nasty little pill.
Thank you for this video! I currently carry the Underwood 180gr XTP in my G29 for EDC. Considering switching to the 155gr XTP. Got a new subscriber today. I'd love to see more 29 content!
Thank you I appreciate the support and u checkin it out!! Either way u can't go wrong, both awesome rounds for sure. Thanks again!! Plenty on the way😁👍.
Great vid, right with the facts, no guff. I carry the Glock 29 as EDC and a Colt Delta Elite as my truck gun. Thanks to vids like this my confidence in this caliber is very high. Thanks!
Thank you for another interesting and informative test review. This UA 10mm Auto 180 Gr XTP JHP is already my winter carry round for personal defense. My platform has a 4.6" barrel. If memory serves, you have a previous video where you tested this load through a 5" barrel and it easily outperformed the 1300 fps advertised mussle velocity - you got 16" of penetration, great expansion with a huge wound channel, and 1344 FPS impact velocity. This is a excellent round. I've long been thinking about UA's 155 Gr XTP JHP for my warm weather carry personal defense round... you've just sealed the deal on it for me - it'll be the one. Thank you, and good things! 👍
Thank you buddy!! Yessir, out of the full size it did great. I put it up against some BB ammo and they both did awesome and both got over advertised velocity. Great choice on carry, definitely can't go wrong with either. I have also tested the 155gr quite a few times out of the full size and got the advertised 1500fps which is awesome to see, and one nasty choice as well. Extra spicy🌶. I'm glad u enjoyed it and found it helpful. Thanks again, always appreciate ya checkin em out!!
@TheTAEclub Isn't it obvious? I thought this video made it pretty clear as to why. The light-for-caliber faster higher energy 155 Gr XTP JHP round penetrates a lot less than the 180 Gr XTP JHP round of the same type in ballistics gel (12" vs 16"), so it is far less likely to over-penetrate a human-sized threat. I live in a fairly densely populated suburban area (250,000 people live in my town alone), so over-penetration is a concern. In the warmer months, most people tend to wear less / fewer layers of clothing, so less penetration is needed. The 155 Gr XTP JHP round produces a relatively shallow (12") yet very wide nasty wound channel in ballistics gel. It has a lot of energy - 774 FtLbs ME from a 5" barrel. I believe it makes for a really good one-shot-stop personal self-defense round for human-sized threats without thick hides, for use primarily in urban / suburban / rural settings. The fewer rounds I need to fire to stop a threat the better off (safer) all will be. I consider over-penetration either inside one's home, or outside where lots of people are around, to be a really bad thing. The heavier slower lower energy 180 Gr XTP JHP round penetrates more in ballistics gel (16"), its better for dealing with human-sized threats wearing multiple layers of clothing (thicker hides), making it better for cool / cold weather personal self-defense. If I'm wilderness trail biking / hiking / camping, I load up 200 Gr FN Hardcast Lead rounds for maximum penetration / personal self-defense against large critters that might want to eat me, and/or my wife, and/or my kids. It would be really stupidly irresponsible of me to use 200 Gr (or heavier) FN HCL as my primary round for personal self-defense EDC against human-sized threats in high human-populated areas and/or inside my home, as these rounds penetrate over 60" in ballistics gel. For 10mm Auto, my load out is simple. ■ In the Woods: - 200 Gr FN HCL x 20 [primary]; - 140 Gr Xtreme Penetrators x 16 [secondary]; - 200 Gr XTP JHP x 16 [tertiary]. ■ In Town / At Home: - 155 Gr XTP JHP x 20 (Warm months) or else 180 Gr XTP JHP x 20 (Cool months)[primary]; - 180 Gr XTP JHP x 16 [secondary]; - 140 Gr Xtreme Penetrator x 10, plus 200 Gr FN HCL x 6 [tertiary]. You're not saying that you only consider one load for all settings and circumstances, are you?
Wish I could get that 155 in hawaii. That was a devastating wound channel. 180 grain buffalo bore is no slouch at 1350 out of a G20 (+p 115 grain 9mm numbers with a bit more diameter and alot more mass) I'm a firm believer that mass x velocity is "the way"... that 155 speaks to me. Underwood, after watching many tests on YT is the most potent factory "full house" 10mm on the market IMHO. BB is second, based on my own testing. The only way to do better than UW or BB? You gotta hand load and work the load up methodically and carefully.
@@adamshaw8214what brand or handloaded? If handload then you can get even more out of the underwood product #232 if you did the same and loaded the same bullet again
So a friend just recommended this channel. Said you're using actual ordnance gel and not CBG garbage. Seems Im already subbed. But now I have the notifications bell set to all.
A mere 2 inches of additional penetration for the 180gr and you think that warrants it's use over the 155gr for 4-legged animals? Did you miss the profound difference in cavitational damage and the utter devastation that the 155gr imparted?
@@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS The 155 definitely produced a bit more dynamic initial impact damage. And it held it well, very well for much of it's travel. The stills AZ provides do a great job capturing that. The 155 wouldn't necessarily fail to perform if used on a larger dangerous animal. The extra weight of the 180 would give it more momentum and mass if/when met bone to help ensure better penetration. In perspective a 180lb. man is a heavier weight category/class than a 155lb. man in fighting match. The class itself doesn't mean the lighter class fighter is lesser it is simply a physical or physics fact. Appreciate the thought.
@@bobjones-bt9bh I appreciate the opinion. But I would disagree. I do woodlands management in the Great Lakes region of Upper Peninsula MI and Northern WI. Our black bear are not too very large as a rule. When I have trained new folk I remind them that the black bear will naturally avoid man except in the spring. I teach folk that a curious cub can get you hurt or killed. A mamma bear will challenge & attack if we are in vicinity of her cub(s). I switched from a 3" 44 magnum to a G29 for some time. I opted to carry Fenix 180 gr. Gold Dots. The G29 is much more conducive for carry with gear & equipment than the large frame revolver. I am personally confident that this option here in 180 or the 180 Gold Dot would be adequate if the situation required it. The biggest point of failure would be me possibly not putting shots on target. Take care out there with whatever you choose.
Great video. 👍 I wonder how the 155 grain Underwood 40 S&W load would stack up against the 155 10mm load? In similar barrel lengths, say a G29 and a G23?
Thank you buddy!! 🤔 that would definitely be a interesting test. One of these days I will pick up a g23. Definitely on the list. I will be testing the 135gr against each other here soon, we'll see.. Thanks again!!
I reload and I really like the 155gr with hs6. 180 isn't bad but it tends to have alot of penetration and a little overkill for 2 legged predators depending on the powder that you use.
I carry an XDM OSP Elite 3.8" 10mm and also handload, so I can create any round I want. Since it is a woods gun, I use the XTP in either 180gr or 200gr. The 155gr would be great for city carry, but in the woods, you want deep penetration.
Nice video. I carry a g29. That ammo is loaded light. I still have 2 boxes of buffalo bore 180gr gold dots 1350fps ( From the g29 its about 60-90fps lower then ad box). I still own 8 boxes of underwood 180gr gold dots 1300fps ( g29 has it at 60fps slower then ad box). Have boxes of underwood 165gr gd, and 140gr xtrm pen (the g29 normally has 60 - 90fps then ad box/g20 4.6" barrel. I don't know what's up with the speeds on your test ammo, but I like to see defensive 10mm auto ammo with kinetic energy between 575-625 muzzle energy in what ever weight bullet to meet the fbi energy standard (550ft lbs muzzle energy using jhp bullet and the 12-18" gel penetration).
The 1980'S fbi ballistic study concluded that a jhp bullet with 550ft lbs muzzle energy and 12-18" gel penetration is need to have the best 1 shot stop performance ratio (if an attacker was shot in the torso vital organs). That's why the fbi choose the 10mm auto. The fbi made the switch to 40cal and 9mm due to agents can't handle the 10mm and or couldn't qualify, pricey ammo, 10mm pistols at that time where falling apart from the power of the 10mm, couldn't got parts needed for repair. The fbi, police, game wardens, and military that still use the 10mm auto for duty.
💪💯 it really is. Yessir, I can. I just got done with that ruger lcp video right before this one, and the trigger was night and day difference compared to that lol, so caught me off guard creating what looks like excessive recoil. It really isn't all that bad, u can definitely tell u have something but manageable for sure. I threw in a link of a previous video dumping a few rounds with it. Thanks as always buddy!! I appreciate ya checkin it out!! ua-cam.com/users/shortsv4ffDkzPjbI?si=roocEI4NGU1jr5ve
What is the barrel length of that compact pistol? It appears to be some sort of XD, but is not properly identified. It is pretty dumb to complain about velocity when not using standard 4.5-5.0" barrels.
You're only losing 40 to 60 fps with the G29, compared to the G20. That still isn't "real" 10mm by some standards. Underwood is hit or miss on their velocities. It is good quality ammo, but I wish they were more consistent with them reaching publicized velocities. Personally, of these two loads, I'd go with the 180 gr without hesitation. I normally favor SD and momentum over energy, esp in handguns, and I definitely prefer the nearly ideal penetration of the 180 gr over the marginal penetration of the 155 gr. More important than the total penetration to me is the significantly deeper depth at which the 180 gr settles down. Bringing the active body of the permanent crush cavity deeper into the gel block means the 180 gr is still deforming and chewing up tissue where vital organs are and energy actually does the most good. This is a byproduct of SD and momentum allowing the bullet to retain enough velocity to deform the projectile deeper into the block. The 155 gr is impressive, but does most of its work in the first 6 inches, which is a superficial wound unlikely to quickly incapacitate a determined attacker. Remember, penetration in gel doesn't represent penetration in tissue. Gel is calibrated with a .177 caliber steel BB that will penetrate 3.5 inches or more of gel while barely breaking human skin. Dumping all most of your energy into 6 inches of gel is barely making it through skin and subcutaneous fat and muscle tissue on many Americans.
What velocity your get from g29 w 155 or 165 Underwoods is extremely impressive and on Bipeds I have to believe it would be as effective as the 125 gr sjhp was even from 4" revolvers which is like a 5.5" auto. Just don't know if the recoil split times could get down to .34 splits or more like .48 splits with that hot of ammo.
You should get a glock 23 with a 4” barrel in .40SW and do the 155 grain underwood. Funny how it is more powerful than the glock 29 with the same weight bullet and same barrel length. Told yall .40SW is the shit
gotta say, that for a damage/platform size ratio, nothing beats .357 Sig. There's no point in a compact 10mm when a G32 can deliver what it does with major manufacturer ammo
Thanks for this real world test! Those 10's had a tremendous wound cavity! I see the 10mm making a come back soon.... A little disappointing on the velocity, but I guess that's to be expected with such a short barrel....Still impressive however.
Keep in mind this is coming from a huge fan of 10mm. These small guns in 10mm to me are counterproductive. The only way to get them to a power level that gives you any real performance edge is to load them with the hottest available ammunition. They lose far too much velocity in anything shorter than 4.25-4.5" barrels and the guns are so light that recoil becomes such a factor the gains are mitigated by your split times. I've done a considerable amount of testing in this subject and found the 10mm best suited to full size guns and in some cases steel frames.
Thats full power 10mm as far as comercial rounds go the 155gr at 1500 fps is 774 footlbs of energy which is equal to low end 44 mag and the 180gr at 1300 is 675 foot lbs anyon who thinks thats not real 10mm does not know about 10mm then beacause the only way you can beat that energy wise is handloads or useinf a really light bullet
Great video. No fluff, no rambling on, no time wasted, you actually used cloth. Thanks for the time and effort
Thank you very much, I appreciate u checkin it out!! Glad u enjoyed. Plenty on the way my friend😁👍.
For a budget hollow point bullet, XTP's work really well when their velocity is good. I'd give the win to the 155, it's slow motion was awesome.
Thanks again for testing.
💪💯 I absolutely agree, was definitely a good performer, even without achieving its full potential 1500fps. Thanks as always my friend, I appreciate ya checkin it out!!
@@AzAirgunner. It'll achieve that 1500 out of a G20 and especially a G40 but that 29 definitely robs some potential. Even with the loss of velocity, it's still a nasty little pill.
Wait which ones aren't budget if this is???
Thank you for working with a proper ballistics medium.
Thank you buddy, I appreciate that very much!! Plenty on the way, thank you again😁👍
That 155 looks brutal!
Thank you for this video! I currently carry the Underwood 180gr XTP in my G29 for EDC. Considering switching to the 155gr XTP.
Got a new subscriber today. I'd love to see more 29 content!
Thank you I appreciate the support and u checkin it out!! Either way u can't go wrong, both awesome rounds for sure. Thanks again!! Plenty on the way😁👍.
Yes...😊
Great vid, right with the facts, no guff. I carry the Glock 29 as EDC and a Colt Delta Elite as my truck gun. Thanks to vids like this my confidence in this caliber is very high. Thanks!
Thank you for another interesting and informative test review.
This UA 10mm Auto 180 Gr XTP JHP is already my winter carry round for personal defense. My platform has a 4.6" barrel. If memory serves, you have a previous video where you tested this load through a 5" barrel and it easily outperformed the 1300 fps advertised mussle velocity - you got 16" of penetration, great expansion with a huge wound channel, and 1344 FPS impact velocity. This is a excellent round.
I've long been thinking about UA's 155 Gr XTP JHP for my warm weather carry personal defense round... you've just sealed the deal on it for me - it'll be the one.
Thank you, and good things! 👍
Thank you buddy!! Yessir, out of the full size it did great. I put it up against some BB ammo and they both did awesome and both got over advertised velocity. Great choice on carry, definitely can't go wrong with either. I have also tested the 155gr quite a few times out of the full size and got the advertised 1500fps which is awesome to see, and one nasty choice as well. Extra spicy🌶. I'm glad u enjoyed it and found it helpful. Thanks again, always appreciate ya checkin em out!!
"winter carry"...bc you live in Alaska, right?
Why different bullets for different seasons? Don't bears hibernate in the winter pr something
@TheTAEclub
Isn't it obvious?
I thought this video made it pretty clear as to why.
The light-for-caliber faster higher energy 155 Gr XTP JHP round penetrates a lot less than the 180 Gr XTP JHP round of the same type in ballistics gel (12" vs 16"), so it is far less likely to over-penetrate a human-sized threat.
I live in a fairly densely populated suburban area (250,000 people live in my town alone), so over-penetration is a concern.
In the warmer months, most people tend to wear less / fewer layers of clothing, so less penetration is needed.
The 155 Gr XTP JHP round produces a relatively shallow (12") yet very wide nasty wound channel in ballistics gel. It has a lot of energy - 774 FtLbs ME from a 5" barrel.
I believe it makes for a really good one-shot-stop personal self-defense round for human-sized threats without thick hides, for use primarily in urban / suburban / rural settings.
The fewer rounds I need to fire to stop a threat the better off (safer) all will be.
I consider over-penetration either inside one's home, or outside where lots of people are around, to be a really bad thing.
The heavier slower lower energy 180 Gr XTP JHP round penetrates more in ballistics gel (16"), its better for dealing with human-sized threats wearing multiple layers of clothing (thicker hides), making it better for cool / cold weather personal self-defense.
If I'm wilderness trail biking / hiking / camping, I load up 200 Gr FN Hardcast Lead rounds for maximum penetration / personal self-defense against large critters that might want to eat me, and/or my wife, and/or my kids.
It would be really stupidly irresponsible of me to use 200 Gr (or heavier) FN HCL as my primary round for personal self-defense EDC against human-sized threats in high human-populated areas and/or inside my home, as these rounds penetrate over 60" in ballistics gel.
For 10mm Auto, my load out is simple.
■ In the Woods:
- 200 Gr FN HCL x 20 [primary];
- 140 Gr Xtreme Penetrators x 16 [secondary];
- 200 Gr XTP JHP x 16 [tertiary].
■ In Town / At Home:
- 155 Gr XTP JHP x 20 (Warm months) or else 180 Gr XTP JHP x 20 (Cool months)[primary];
- 180 Gr XTP JHP x 16 [secondary];
- 140 Gr Xtreme Penetrator x 10, plus 200 Gr FN HCL x 6 [tertiary].
You're not saying that you only consider one load for all settings and circumstances, are you?
The Glock 29 is a beast.
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Its my do it all... has sent many of my others back in the safe lol
@@sparky_-mf2csfull size better
@@TheTAEclub maybe so...but its kinda hard to conceal it 😂
@@sparky_-mf2cs wish me luck lol
155gr all day
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Wish I could get that 155 in hawaii.
That was a devastating wound channel.
180 grain buffalo bore is no slouch at 1350 out of a G20
(+p 115 grain 9mm numbers with a bit more diameter and alot more mass)
I'm a firm believer that mass x velocity is "the way"... that 155 speaks to me.
Underwood, after watching many tests on YT is the most potent factory "full house" 10mm on the market IMHO.
BB is second, based on my own testing.
The only way to do better than UW or BB?
You gotta hand load and work the load up methodically and carefully.
The 155 is exactly what I carry, great video.
this channel deserves way more subs
That 155 is nasty. Thanks for posting!
I get the same velocity with that bullet in a 40 Soo....
@@adamshaw8214muzzle or terminal?
@@adamshaw8214show receipts citation needed
@@adamshaw8214what brand or handloaded? If handload then you can get even more out of the underwood product #232 if you did the same and loaded the same bullet again
@@adamshaw8214 Ya not out of a 3.7 inch barrel you don't.
The 155 looks to be a one and done load for a PDW load.
What's your chassis? Braced or sbr?
So a friend just recommended this channel. Said you're using actual ordnance gel and not CBG garbage. Seems Im already subbed. But now I have the notifications bell set to all.
@@Matteo_ Very cool!! Thank you that's awesome!! Glad u guys found the channel. No clear ballistics here😁. Thank you again I appreciate the support!!
Goodness gracious, righteously hellacious! Thank you for the test. That 155 is a gel blender...
💪💯frfr. Thank you buddy, as always I appreciate u checkin it out!!
Excellent. As always very helpful. 155 for 2 legged protection and 180 for 4 legged. 180 would be fine for do it all well carry option.
A mere 2 inches of additional penetration for the 180gr and you think that warrants it's use over the 155gr for 4-legged animals? Did you miss the profound difference in cavitational damage and the utter devastation that the 155gr imparted?
@@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS The 155 definitely produced a bit more dynamic initial impact damage. And it held it well, very well for much of it's travel. The stills AZ provides do a great job capturing that. The 155 wouldn't necessarily fail to perform if used on a larger dangerous animal. The extra weight of the 180 would give it more momentum and mass if/when met bone to help ensure better penetration. In perspective a 180lb. man is a heavier weight category/class than a 155lb. man in fighting match. The class itself doesn't mean the lighter class fighter is lesser it is simply a physical or physics fact. Appreciate the thought.
Thank you my friend I appreciate ya!!
neither one of these rounds nor this platform is advisable for 4 legged issues unless you just mean coyotes.
@@bobjones-bt9bh I appreciate the opinion. But I would disagree. I do woodlands management in the Great Lakes region of Upper Peninsula MI and Northern WI. Our black bear are not too very large as a rule. When I have trained new folk I remind them that the black bear will naturally avoid man except in the spring. I teach folk that a curious cub can get you hurt or killed. A mamma bear will challenge & attack if we are in vicinity of her cub(s). I switched from a 3" 44 magnum to a G29 for some time. I opted to carry Fenix 180 gr. Gold Dots.
The G29 is much more conducive for carry with gear & equipment than the large frame revolver. I am personally confident that this option here in 180 or the 180 Gold Dot would be adequate if the situation required it. The biggest point of failure would be me possibly not putting shots on target. Take care out there with whatever you choose.
Great video. 👍 I wonder how the 155 grain Underwood 40 S&W load would stack up against the 155 10mm load? In similar barrel lengths, say a G29 and a G23?
It’s rated at 636 ft/lb of energy. Glock 23 in .40 sw with a 155 or 135 grain xtp is more powerful. 10mm dorks can stfu now
Thank you buddy!! 🤔 that would definitely be a interesting test. One of these days I will pick up a g23. Definitely on the list. I will be testing the 135gr against each other here soon, we'll see.. Thanks again!!
I get 1260 from the 40 with the 155 xtp.
How's the recoil compared to .40??? Do you carry 10??? Would you take it over SIG??? Thanks for the video!
I reload and I really like the 155gr with hs6. 180 isn't bad but it tends to have alot of penetration and a little overkill for 2 legged predators depending on the powder that you use.
Could we please get a gel test of 230 grain winchester usa ready .45 flat nose? Perhaps in comparison to Winchester ball ammo.
If I come across or can find the usa ready fmj I will get a test goin. Thanks for checkin this one out!!
Similar to the Glock 27 135 energy and a lil more than the g33 124 energy. The g32 124 had more energy than the 155. 636 muzzle energy
.357S is really hard to beat
I tested Hornady XTP with exact same bullets last sunday, out of my 29 gen4 and I had exactly same velocities.
Thinking very seriously about using 155 grn loads in my 10mm
I carry an XDM OSP Elite 3.8" 10mm and also handload, so I can create any round I want. Since it is a woods gun, I use the XTP in either 180gr or 200gr. The 155gr would be great for city carry, but in the woods, you want deep penetration.
You want deep penetration at all times, so I'll stick with the 180.
I love your tests. This one in particular was excellent!
Cool video dude!!😎. Hmmmm,, shopping 🛒 planned for underwood 🤓😎
Good video. Thank you!
Thank you very much I really appreciate that!! Plenty on the way my friend😁👍
Big difference in felt recoil?
Nice video. I carry a g29. That ammo is loaded light. I still have 2 boxes of buffalo bore 180gr gold dots 1350fps ( From the g29 its about 60-90fps lower then ad box). I still own 8 boxes of underwood 180gr gold dots 1300fps ( g29 has it at 60fps slower then ad box). Have boxes of underwood 165gr gd, and 140gr xtrm pen (the g29 normally has 60 - 90fps then ad box/g20 4.6" barrel. I don't know what's up with the speeds on your test ammo, but I like to see defensive 10mm auto ammo with kinetic energy between 575-625 muzzle energy in what ever weight bullet to meet the fbi energy standard (550ft lbs muzzle energy using jhp bullet and the 12-18" gel penetration).
The 1980'S fbi ballistic study concluded that a jhp bullet with 550ft lbs muzzle energy and 12-18" gel penetration is need to have the best 1 shot stop performance ratio (if an attacker was shot in the torso vital organs). That's why the fbi choose the 10mm auto. The fbi made the switch to 40cal and 9mm due to agents can't handle the 10mm and or couldn't qualify, pricey ammo, 10mm pistols at that time where falling apart from the power of the 10mm, couldn't got parts needed for repair. The fbi, police, game wardens, and military that still use the 10mm auto for duty.
Glock 29 155gr XTP underwood 10mm vs Glock 23 155gr XTP underwood.40
10mm is a beast. Can you get a good purchase on that G29 looks sketchy for follow-ups
💪💯 it really is. Yessir, I can. I just got done with that ruger lcp video right before this one, and the trigger was night and day difference compared to that lol, so caught me off guard creating what looks like excessive recoil. It really isn't all that bad, u can definitely tell u have something but manageable for sure. I threw in a link of a previous video dumping a few rounds with it. Thanks as always buddy!! I appreciate ya checkin it out!!
ua-cam.com/users/shortsv4ffDkzPjbI?si=roocEI4NGU1jr5ve
Underwood 155 grain TAC-XP pleeeeease!
Thank you
very nice test
Thank you buddy!! Always appreciate ya checkin em out!!
Never check out that Grizzly 200 grain or the 180 and things are moving up there with Buffalo Bore speeds
I run Liberty civil defense in my 29 at 2400 fps they are the fastest and they are hollow point
Have you tried the heavy stuff yet, 200gr+?
Too much penetration vs expansion might be unsafe in a populated area
Unreal!
WOW!!! Now I know why it is used against bears!
What is the barrel length of that compact pistol? It appears to be some sort of XD, but is not properly identified. It is pretty dumb to complain about velocity when not using standard 4.5-5.0" barrels.
Yeah I like that 155 grain
You're only losing 40 to 60 fps with the G29, compared to the G20. That still isn't "real" 10mm by some standards. Underwood is hit or miss on their velocities. It is good quality ammo, but I wish they were more consistent with them reaching publicized velocities.
Personally, of these two loads, I'd go with the 180 gr without hesitation. I normally favor SD and momentum over energy, esp in handguns, and I definitely prefer the nearly ideal penetration of the 180 gr over the marginal penetration of the 155 gr. More important than the total penetration to me is the significantly deeper depth at which the 180 gr settles down. Bringing the active body of the permanent crush cavity deeper into the gel block means the 180 gr is still deforming and chewing up tissue where vital organs are and energy actually does the most good. This is a byproduct of SD and momentum allowing the bullet to retain enough velocity to deform the projectile deeper into the block. The 155 gr is impressive, but does most of its work in the first 6 inches, which is a superficial wound unlikely to quickly incapacitate a determined attacker. Remember, penetration in gel doesn't represent penetration in tissue. Gel is calibrated with a .177 caliber steel BB that will penetrate 3.5 inches or more of gel while barely breaking human skin. Dumping all most of your energy into 6 inches of gel is barely making it through skin and subcutaneous fat and muscle tissue on many Americans.
Do you carry the Glock 29?
Those are slow pokes compared to the legendary 357SIG!!
Tanfoglio compact models have shorter barrels than Glock 29's
What velocity your get from g29 w 155 or 165 Underwoods is extremely impressive and on Bipeds I have to believe it would be as effective as the 125 gr sjhp was even from 4" revolvers which is like a 5.5" auto. Just don't know if the recoil split times could get down to .34 splits or more like .48 splits with that hot of ammo.
These gel seem to show way more damage than other gel tests
Gel can vary.
Good video
Thank you!! I appreciate u checkin it out!!
10mm or no mm!
Unless it’s a really fast 9mm 😁
@@nikos6220as in 357 Sig, then hell yeah!
@@TransformersHoarder ha, you got it. Exactly
.40 sw out of a glock 27 or 23 is more powerful than 10mm out of a 29
@@Gunsandbunsmma or at the very least equal.
You should get a glock 23 with a 4” barrel in .40SW and do the 155 grain underwood. Funny how it is more powerful than the glock 29 with the same weight bullet and same barrel length. Told yall .40SW is the shit
357 Sig beats the 40 in cavitational damage all day long.
gotta say, that for a damage/platform size ratio, nothing beats .357 Sig. There's no point in a compact 10mm when a G32 can deliver what it does with major manufacturer ammo
G32 is probably the most devastating size/efficient pistol made..as far as firepower...size..penetration and energy
Is this ordnance grade ballistics gel? Or synthetic gel, ie clear ballistics gel?
@@ils-84 ordnance fbi spec.
@@AzAirgunner. So organic gel like Knox type 250A?
@@ils-84 Yes👍
@@AzAirgunner. Excellent!! Thank you. Just subbed.
@@ils-84 Absolutely😁. Thank you very much I appreciate the support!!
125gr 40s&w vs 125gr 357sig
Liberty civil defense 60 grain.
nice
Thanks for this real world test! Those 10's had a tremendous wound cavity! I see the 10mm making a come back soon.... A little disappointing on the velocity, but I guess that's to be expected with such a short barrel....Still impressive however.
Thank you buddy!! Always appreciate ya checkin em out!!
10mil is no joke.
Is 200g 10mm for a Glock 29 to much?
to much for????
you new nickname is "The Flincher" ...
😄😂
155 self defense, 180 hunting.
I am the king of the flinch
It's good to be king!
😄Hey bro it happens lol. Thank you for checkin it out, I appreciate ya!!
@@robwilson3749 💪💯
Definitely whatever you hit with that is terminated.
Over 700 lb ft of energy
They only went 600 on this video I’m confused
Keep in mind this is coming from a huge fan of 10mm. These small guns in 10mm to me are counterproductive. The only way to get them to a power level that gives you any real performance edge is to load them with the hottest available ammunition. They lose far too much velocity in anything shorter than 4.25-4.5" barrels and the guns are so light that recoil becomes such a factor the gains are mitigated by your split times. I've done a considerable amount of testing in this subject and found the 10mm best suited to full size guns and in some cases steel frames.
that's nice. you do you
200 Penetrator
Thats full power 10mm as far as comercial rounds go the 155gr at 1500 fps is 774 footlbs of energy which is equal to low end 44 mag and the 180gr at 1300 is 675 foot lbs anyon who thinks thats not real 10mm does not know about 10mm then beacause the only way you can beat that energy wise is handloads or useinf a really light bullet
Why don't you test a 460 Rowland or a 185 grain 450 SMC it would be nice instead of watching you test 10 mm all the time
😂😂 ... no
I like 10mm and 10mm short tests.
There's plenty other channels out there to watch, no need to keep urself bored on mine. Maybe u can test those calibers and rounds on ur channel..
@@tradesman63 Thanks buddy!! I have a ton coming. I appreciate u checkin em out!!
@@aries8550 😄💪💯
2400 fps 780 fpe.
First.
You should get you a 380 pal