As a result of the .357 sig vs 10mm, I have come to a conclusion that I will stick with the .357 sig instead of adding another caliber to my collection. Great video!
Always a good day when we get to see a 357 sig VS 10mm test from AZ Airgunner! It always puts into perspective how nasty that little 357 sig actually is! Keep up the good work!
I love the 10...and I do want one...but for me .357 sig will do anything and more that I need ...I guess mostly I don't wanna have to buy a new caliber... great test as always my friend..
That is my only problem with the 10mm. I do find that the Timberwolf full frame is much more ergo than the Glock frame, I just wonder if a TW large frame might be comfortable for my handsl
@@bullaaron You won't be disappointed! Size and weight (loaded) of any typical 9mm Glock with the power of low-moderate end 10mm (with the right load)!!! Literally can't go wrong!
Great video. That Underwood ammo is incredible! I hope more companies will increase their production of the .357 Sig ammo and especially companies like Underwood with their high performance ammo.
@BOURBON-BANDIT 357sig in 90 grain grizzly jhp @ 1900+ fps and 720+ ft/lbs of energy DUMPS 100 % of its energy with no overpenetration! Or underwoods 115 grain nosler jhp at over 1500fps also is a very explosive anti personal round..and it does it with much less recoil!
Out of shorter barrels the edge goes to 357 Sig but I suspect out of 4.5”-5” barrels the 10mm should outshine 357 Sig. In any event it’s 357 Sig for me and has been the case for ages.
It doesn’t, a Glock 40 in 10mm with a 5.3 inch barrel hits at around 560 foot pounds with 200 grain fmj and a Glock 31 in 357 sig with a 4.5 inch barrel hits at 590 foot pounds with 140gr fmj
My daily carry is a Sig P224 in 357 Sig, but if they made a smaller 10mm DA/SA gun I would carry it. Until they do, 357 Sig is the best concealed carry round out there. 357 Sigs come in 9mm-sized guns with almost twice the muzzle energy of some standard 9mm rounds, with a recoil that is slightly less than 40SW. Follow-up shots aren't near as easy as a 9mm, but you only need one or two to get the job done.
Amazing vid bro. Stumbled across this trying to figure which to add to the collection. These were the two it came down to and your vid pops up haha cheers man! Stay safe
Thanks for the great video! As someone who just got into 10mm, I think we will see more popularity with 10 and hopefully 357 Sig. I learned that when looking for ammo, pay attention to the manufacturers test barrel length for the listed velocity on a type of ammo and look for stuff tested with a similar length barrel to your barrel for similar velocity. Velocity is key to propped hollow-point expansion!
357 Sig is dying. I think Glock is the only one that still offer pistols in that caliber but even they doesnt offer 5 gen's in 357 Sig and probably wont.
Thank you for another interesting and informative video. You're becoming my new go-to source for 10mm Auto JHP self-defense ammo performance information. I've liked and subscribed. I love 10mm Auto. It's my all-time favorite pistol cartridge. I like .357 SIG very much, but it's very scarce and expensive to come by. 10mm Auto is a more versatile cartridge. Theory / Underwood Excuses: I started using Underwood Ammo's 10mm Auto loads way back, around 2013 or so. Back then, a 50-round box of their 10mm Auto JHP self-defense loads could be had for around $30. Velocity performance typically exceeded Underwood's published claims. Those were the days. Underwood's 10mm Auto JHP self-defense bullet selections (from Nosler, Speer's Gold Dot bonded bullet, Hornady's XTP), when pushed to Underwood's published velocities (actual test results were often faster than advertised) would suffer a lot of jacket separation and fragmentation. They provided a huge energy dump and very wide wound channels, but not a lot of penetration. Their XTP JHPs seemed to hold together and penetrate the best. Test barrel length was always stated to be 5". The issue was these bullets were / are all designed only for .40 S&W velocities, not 10mm Auto full-power velocities, hence, limited penetration and a lot of fragmentation. I also seem to recall a good amount of reports regarding catastrophic malfunctions (pistols blowing up) as well. Over the years, I've noted Underwood apparently de-powering their 10mm Auto loads, without necessarily publishing these new lower velocities. Add to that we still don't see very many JHP self-defense bullets designed for full-power 10mm Auto velocities. I've read / seen that SIG Sauer's 10mm Auto 180 Gr JHP Elite V-Crown bullets appear to hold together better and penetrate more at what I consider to be moderate-power 10mm Auto energy (600 ~ 699 FtLbs ME). These are a relatively new bullet design that SIG Sauer released when their (then new) P220 10mm Auto 5" pistols were first introduced several years ago. Just my two cents worth. I'm certainly no expert. Good things! 👍
Gotta get on Gunbroker for the good 357sig deals. They seem to be right around the same price as defensive load 10mm. Also from what I've seen the Underwood 10mm bonded Gold Dots always hold together (as shown in the video as well). I just wish they could be had again (so I can have some on standby for my 357sig).
Very good results. The 10mm out of the shorter barrel was impressive. The 357 Sig always does great. The problem with the 357 Sig cartridge is it head spaces on the case mouth like a straight walled case and not the shoulder like bottle necked case. With it's short neck and a tape crimp it can be problematic for hand loaders to get enough tension to eliminate bullet set back. Thanks for your efforts and accurate reporting.
Glad u stayed to the end to see em. I always try to throw that in there. Gives ppl a better perspective of what's going on, and how crazy some of these temporary stretch cavity can get. Thank you for checkin it out buddy, I appreciate ya!! Plenty comin😁.
Awesome comparison of my two favorite handgun cartridges! Sadly, the 357 never reached the popularity that it deserved and it is fading away, and interestingly, SIG no longer offers a gun chambered in 357. I carried the 357 as a duty round for 10 years using Speer 125gr GD ammo. Thankfully, I never had to use it, but I knew of it's awsome capabilities if I had to. Now that I'm retired, I carry a Glock 33. As for the 10mm, I started shooting that cartridge in 1994, but I have never actually carried a gun chambered in that cartridge. Since the 10mm is fun to shoot and easy to reload, I use it for recreational shooting only.
As usual the 10mm looks like it wants to tear itself apart, it's definitely a wicked round. But .357 Sig is no slouch either, just wish the ammo was more readily available, hopefully .357 Sig go the route of 10mm and make a comeback some day. Would like to see a test between the full size Glock 20 and the Glock 31 pistols instead of between the compact pistols, maybe even between a Glock 31 and a Glock 22.
probably after enough shootings by police end up requiring high round counts and whatnot they will have an epiphany and move back in that direction. 10mm has a "comeback" but if you look at search rates on ammoseek, you don't really see very much activity in that caliber at all
@@bobjones-bt9bh IMO unless you are going against a giant 10mm is like 41mag, there are just other rounds that perform close enough, and the .40 super exceeds 10mm also a large frame caliber. If power is what a person wants, why stop at 10mm. I am happy with 9mm, .40S&W, and 357 sig, I have been pondering a TW .40 super build but probably won't.
Great test. Very well done. But, it kind of makes me sad. This test shows that the 357 Sig is a true performer that provides a semi automatic cartridge that comes close to 357 mag short barrel performance. The part that makes me sad is that it appears as though the 357 Sig is going away. I don't think Sig makes it any more and I have heard that Glock is now wanting to drop it from their line up. Its a great cartridge. I would hate to see it go away.
I actually own both a Glock 31 and a Glock 29 and both are superb handguns. My G29 used to be my edc and i still trust it today my edc is a G43 because of it being compact. I trust all of my Glock firearms for any situation 💯 the 31 i haven't had that long but i definitely love it.
While the 10 did more damage in this test there are big differences in actual use. I find the 32 far easier to conceal, grip, and shoot than the 29. I don't think the 3 extra rounds in the magazine will make much difference but that extra .10"+ thickness will. Both cartridges are winners but I like a larger gun for 10. The Model 20, XD-M, and 1911s come to mind.
@@walkingwolf8072 Now THAT'S expensive! AZ Airgunner cooks up his own gel so tests are consistent and keeps costs way down as opposed to Paul's method
@@nickadkins7765 Pork shoulder back in the 70's was well under a dollar a pound, but back then I could buy whole chickens for 10 cents a pound. Big city phone books were free. The pork shoulders were not waist, we put them on the grill at the police range. I doubt Paul is throwing those pork ribs away, though the oranges are being fed to the deer that clearly hang around him.
It's a waste. I try to get the most out of each block to make it worth while. It gets pretty expensive and very time consuming doing these tests. Usually with little to no return. Each block is about 50bucks to make. I take 4 out each time I go, 3 for testing and one as a catch block. That's already 50bucks+ per test not including the ammo I use and the 2hour round trip in gas to get to the range. That's why I don't use one block per shot. I'm tryin my best. We are still a very small channel and everything comes out of pocket, so it's tough sometimes. Anyways Thank you and I appreciate u taking the time to check these videos out. Plenty on the way😁👍.
@@AzAirgunner. Yes, I had heard they were very expensive. Even making your own that is a lot of boxes of knox gelatin. Appreciate your efforts, shame they longer make those big phone books.
@@AzAirgunner.Can you plz share a decent spot I can go out to for target practice .. there is a bunch listed under park management.. but would like a recommendation from your experience.. im out in scottsdale / ASU area..would greatly appreciate it. 🤟👊
Market supply is difficult. If they could get the supplies, and the employees I am sure they would have more. XTP's work with higher velocity, expansion at lower speeds I believe critical defense has that market.
@@walkingwolf8072 A load that I was able to find a box of on Gubroker that he tested as well was the old tan box 125gr Winchester Ranger T's! He got around 1500fps and 600ft lb of energy from a G31 full size 4.5" barrel. That's very close to the Underwood Gold Dot load in performance, and it's what I carry in both my 357sig pistols (G33 and G23C with 4.6" KKM 357sig threaded barrel).
Thank you!! No sir they do not. Hopefully one day when everything kinda gets back to normal they will make another appearance. Thanks again buddy, I appreciate u taking the time to check it out!! Plenty on the way😁👍.
@@calvinnelsonjr6465 no. At most it's a 400fps difference with similar increases and decreased with pressure and weight. Do with that information tell me I'm wrong and give me a better baby version of the Dillon. Also has to be necked down
Gold dots are the bullet to beat for the hot rounds! Speer needs to get their shit together and get them back in the pipeline for not only handloaders but for small manufacturers as well. The Noslers Underwood loads now pale in comparison. They're engineered for 9mm and .40 short and weak in these diameters and not up for handling these velocities....they fragment badly and penetration suffers.
10mil greater than 357sig everyday of the week. 9x25 Dillon also better than 357sig. If you wanna "equally" test rounds, test *"equal"* rds with *"equal"* grains and *"equal"* fps. And *"equal"* barrels. 10mil wins every time.
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The two best carry calibers right there!
As a result of the .357 sig vs 10mm, I have come to a conclusion that I will stick with the .357 sig instead of adding another caliber to my collection. Great video!
Thank you sir always appreciate u taking the time to check em out!! Plenty on the way😁👍.
10 mm better
Always a good day when we get to see a 357 sig VS 10mm test from AZ Airgunner! It always puts into perspective how nasty that little 357 sig actually is! Keep up the good work!
Thank you buddy, always appreciate u taking the time to check it out!! Glad u enjoy em. Plenty on the way😁👍.
I love the 10...and I do want one...but for me .357 sig will do anything and more that I need ...I guess mostly I don't wanna have to buy a new caliber... great test as always my friend..
Thank you buddy I appreciate ya!!
Go buy a 10mm gun.
Considering that the 10mm only fits in the larger frame guns, that 357sig did crazy well. Great results.
That is my only problem with the 10mm. I do find that the Timberwolf full frame is much more ergo than the Glock frame, I just wonder if a TW large frame might be comfortable for my handsl
@@walkingwolf8072 with results like these I am thinking the 357sig is the go to for me. If I need a little extra umf.
@@bullaaron You won't be disappointed! Size and weight (loaded) of any typical 9mm Glock with the power of low-moderate end 10mm (with the right load)!!! Literally can't go wrong!
Thanks for checkin it out buddy!!
Glock 32 357-sig for EDC. 10mm for home defense but either are devastating.
That 10mm is a beast 👑
💪💯. I'm lovin it in the shorty barrel. Definitely fun for sure.
Great video. That Underwood ammo is incredible! I hope more companies will increase their production of the .357 Sig ammo and especially companies like Underwood with their high performance ammo.
They’re discontinuing 357 sig
For a "carry " round and superior energy and penetration....357sig is the GOAT 🐐 🏆 💪 🇺🇸!!!!
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Best handgun bullet of all time
yeah but the ammo prices are crazy 10mm cheaper ammo
BUT... the 10mm dumping its energy QUICKLY makes it better in a home defense situation. Just playing the Devil's Advocate.
@BOURBON-BANDIT 357sig in 90 grain grizzly jhp @ 1900+ fps and 720+ ft/lbs of energy DUMPS 100 % of its energy with no overpenetration! Or underwoods 115 grain nosler jhp at over 1500fps also is a very explosive anti personal round..and it does it with much less recoil!
Out of shorter barrels the edge goes to 357 Sig but I suspect out of 4.5”-5” barrels the 10mm should outshine 357 Sig. In any event it’s 357 Sig for me and has been the case for ages.
Me too.
It doesn’t, a Glock 40 in 10mm with a 5.3 inch barrel hits at around 560 foot pounds with 200 grain fmj and a Glock 31 in 357 sig with a 4.5 inch barrel hits at 590 foot pounds with 140gr fmj
@@RolluphimI got 2200 fps 780 lb 10 mm loads and that’s out of a 4 inch barrel 10 mm is way better if it’s loaded to full potential
@@Agilepickleunite 780?? What 10mm loads
@@Rolluphim underwood 155 grain xtp is rated for 775. Off the shelf 10mm is weak compared to what it could be loaded to.
My daily carry is a Sig P224 in 357 Sig, but if they made a smaller 10mm DA/SA gun I would carry it. Until they do, 357 Sig is the best concealed carry round out there. 357 Sigs come in 9mm-sized guns with almost twice the muzzle energy of some standard 9mm rounds, with a recoil that is slightly less than 40SW. Follow-up shots aren't near as easy as a 9mm, but you only need one or two to get the job done.
My man stays busy! Thx for the tests!
Hey bro I'm tryin lol. I appreciate ya checkin it out, thank you!!
That 29 is doing better than I thought
I'm lovin it so far.
You are crazy consistent with my favorite calibers im tuned in every time
Heck yeah💪!! Thank you very much, I really appreciate u taking the time to check em out my friend. Plenty on the way😁👍.
Wow! Great test.
Thank you sir!!
Amazing vid bro. Stumbled across this trying to figure which to add to the collection. These were the two it came down to and your vid pops up haha cheers man! Stay safe
Got the G29 & G33 love them both thanks💯
I have a 33 gen 3 yeah she snaps but I love the recoil.
Dang! I can understand why someone would use 10mm but I’m gonna stick with 357Sig.
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Thanks for the great video! As someone who just got into 10mm, I think we will see more popularity with 10 and hopefully 357 Sig. I learned that when looking for ammo, pay attention to the manufacturers test barrel length for the listed velocity on a type of ammo and look for stuff tested with a similar length barrel to your barrel for similar velocity. Velocity is key to propped hollow-point expansion!
Thank you sir I appreciate u checkin it out!! Welcome to the best mm club lol. It's definitely a fun one to have.
357 Sig is dying. I think Glock is the only one that still offer pistols in that caliber but even they doesnt offer 5 gen's in 357 Sig and probably wont.
Thank you for another interesting and informative video.
You're becoming my new go-to source for 10mm Auto JHP self-defense ammo performance information.
I've liked and subscribed.
I love 10mm Auto.
It's my all-time favorite pistol cartridge.
I like .357 SIG very much, but it's very scarce and expensive to come by.
10mm Auto is a more versatile cartridge.
Theory / Underwood Excuses:
I started using Underwood Ammo's 10mm Auto loads way back, around 2013 or so.
Back then, a 50-round box of their 10mm Auto JHP self-defense loads could be had for around $30.
Velocity performance typically exceeded Underwood's published claims.
Those were the days.
Underwood's 10mm Auto JHP self-defense bullet selections (from Nosler, Speer's Gold Dot bonded bullet, Hornady's XTP), when pushed to Underwood's published velocities (actual test results were often faster than advertised) would suffer a lot of jacket separation and fragmentation.
They provided a huge energy dump and very wide wound channels, but not a lot of penetration.
Their XTP JHPs seemed to hold together and penetrate the best.
Test barrel length was always stated to be 5".
The issue was these bullets were / are all designed only for .40 S&W velocities, not 10mm Auto full-power velocities, hence, limited penetration and a lot of fragmentation.
I also seem to recall a good amount of reports regarding catastrophic malfunctions (pistols blowing up) as well.
Over the years, I've noted Underwood apparently de-powering their 10mm Auto loads, without necessarily publishing these new lower velocities.
Add to that we still don't see very many JHP self-defense bullets designed for full-power 10mm Auto velocities.
I've read / seen that SIG Sauer's 10mm Auto 180 Gr JHP Elite V-Crown bullets appear to hold together better and penetrate more at what I consider to be moderate-power 10mm Auto energy (600 ~ 699 FtLbs ME).
These are a relatively new bullet design that SIG Sauer released when their (then new) P220 10mm Auto 5" pistols were first introduced several years ago.
Just my two cents worth.
I'm certainly no expert.
Good things! 👍
Gotta get on Gunbroker for the good 357sig deals. They seem to be right around the same price as defensive load 10mm. Also from what I've seen the Underwood 10mm bonded Gold Dots always hold together (as shown in the video as well). I just wish they could be had again (so I can have some on standby for my 357sig).
Very good results. The 10mm out of the shorter barrel was impressive. The 357 Sig always does great. The problem with the 357 Sig cartridge is it head spaces on the case mouth like a straight walled case and not the shoulder like bottle necked case. With it's short neck and a tape crimp it can be problematic for hand loaders to get enough tension to eliminate bullet set back.
Thanks for your efforts and accurate reporting.
Those Aftershocks are amazing with both rounds in slow motion towards the end of the video.
Glad u stayed to the end to see em. I always try to throw that in there. Gives ppl a better perspective of what's going on, and how crazy some of these temporary stretch cavity can get. Thank you for checkin it out buddy, I appreciate ya!! Plenty comin😁.
Great video. Thanks for posting.
Thank you buddy!! Always appreciate u checkin em out!!
AZ can you test Buffalo bore 357 sig ammo ?
Great idea man. I second this gentleman’s suggestion.
I got a g29/ and a g32/ love them both/ awesome video btw
Both did great. The 10 really did best overall. Many thanks.
The Sig won with More penetration !
Thank you sir!!
@@ojpaige3873 That it did. In some scenarios that may make the difference.
Awesome comparison of my two favorite handgun cartridges! Sadly, the 357 never reached the popularity that it deserved and it is fading away, and interestingly, SIG no longer offers a gun chambered in 357. I carried the 357 as a duty round for 10 years using Speer 125gr GD ammo. Thankfully, I never had to use it, but I knew of it's awsome capabilities if I had to. Now that I'm retired, I carry a Glock 33. As for the 10mm, I started shooting that cartridge in 1994, but I have never actually carried a gun chambered in that cartridge. Since the 10mm is fun to shoot and easy to reload, I use it for recreational shooting only.
Sig also dont offer 40S&W. I think with 135gr loads you are right at was 357 Sig can do. So for me its redundant.
I'm hoping AZ videos are going to reignite interest and popularity in this cartridge. I love the calibre. Super accurate too.
love your videos. thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much!! I appreciate u checkin em out!! Glad u enjoy them😁.
As usual the 10mm looks like it wants to tear itself apart, it's definitely a wicked round. But .357 Sig is no slouch either, just wish the ammo was more readily available, hopefully .357 Sig go the route of 10mm and make a comeback some day. Would like to see a test between the full size Glock 20 and the Glock 31 pistols instead of between the compact pistols, maybe even between a Glock 31 and a Glock 22.
probably after enough shootings by police end up requiring high round counts and whatnot they will have an epiphany and move back in that direction.
10mm has a "comeback" but if you look at search rates on ammoseek, you don't really see very much activity in that caliber at all
@@bobjones-bt9bh IMO unless you are going against a giant 10mm is like 41mag, there are just other rounds that perform close enough, and the .40 super exceeds 10mm also a large frame caliber. If power is what a person wants, why stop at 10mm. I am happy with 9mm, .40S&W, and 357 sig, I have been pondering a TW .40 super build but probably won't.
This is a great choice for comparison review bro. I still like the .357 sig better than the 10.
Thanks bro!! Yeah I hear ya, that 357 sig is just nasty no matter what. I do love the 10mm though, specially out of the full size. Extra spicy🌶.
10mm is more powerful deposits more energy but the smaller diameter 357 will almost always win in deeper penetration
The .357 mushrooming is me with 8 hours of sleep. The 10mm is me with 5 hours 🤣.
Great test. Very well done. But, it kind of makes me sad. This test shows that the 357 Sig is a true performer that provides a semi automatic cartridge that comes close to 357 mag short barrel performance. The part that makes me sad is that it appears as though the 357 Sig is going away. I don't think Sig makes it any more and I have heard that Glock is now wanting to drop it from their line up. Its a great cartridge. I would hate to see it go away.
I actually own both a Glock 31 and a Glock 29 and both are superb handguns. My G29 used to be my edc and i still trust it today my edc is a G43 because of it being compact. I trust all of my Glock firearms for any situation 💯 the 31 i haven't had that long but i definitely love it.
While the 10 did more damage in this test there are big differences in actual use. I find the 32 far easier to conceal, grip, and shoot than the 29. I don't think the 3 extra rounds in the magazine will make much difference but that extra .10"+ thickness will. Both cartridges are winners but I like a larger gun for 10. The Model 20, XD-M, and 1911s come to mind.
I love .357 sig for EVD.... but when i step into the woods I'm carrying a 10 mm with hard cast bullets
I run hard cast in my 33 and my 30sf I'm sure not to much in the woods couldn't be dropped besides a grizzly or a 500lb black bear
Love the Glock 29! Glad you will be using it for testing.
Same, I'm really liking it so far. Should have a bunch coming.
.357 the 👑👍
Carry both. 10mm hiking, .357 Sig EDC.
What so you got a drop in velocity out of the 10 but a higher one out the 357 sig
You should have used the Underwood 135 Gr hollow point which travels at 1600 fps
F that should have used the livery civil defense 10mm over 2000fps and 700+ lbs
@Agilepickleunite light for caliber garbage.....
how was the perceived recoil for both?
Both not bad at all. Very manageable but I could feel that 10mm definitely had a lil more rise/flip to it.
Ayyye az gang you out there near gila Bay
Why not one block for each gun? That way there's no blowouts and you can get a more accurate measurement.
I think gel is expensive. I prefer the Paul Harrel meat targets to gel. Before gel we used pork shoulder roasts for testing, water soaked phone books.
@@walkingwolf8072 Now THAT'S expensive! AZ Airgunner cooks up his own gel so tests are consistent and keeps costs way down as opposed to Paul's method
@@nickadkins7765 Pork shoulder back in the 70's was well under a dollar a pound, but back then I could buy whole chickens for 10 cents a pound. Big city phone books were free. The pork shoulders were not waist, we put them on the grill at the police range. I doubt Paul is throwing those pork ribs away, though the oranges are being fed to the deer that clearly hang around him.
It's a waste. I try to get the most out of each block to make it worth while. It gets pretty expensive and very time consuming doing these tests. Usually with little to no return. Each block is about 50bucks to make. I take 4 out each time I go, 3 for testing and one as a catch block. That's already 50bucks+ per test not including the ammo I use and the 2hour round trip in gas to get to the range. That's why I don't use one block per shot. I'm tryin my best. We are still a very small channel and everything comes out of pocket, so it's tough sometimes. Anyways Thank you and I appreciate u taking the time to check these videos out. Plenty on the way😁👍.
@@AzAirgunner. Yes, I had heard they were very expensive. Even making your own that is a lot of boxes of knox gelatin. Appreciate your efforts, shame they longer make those big phone books.
An I the only one thinking Underwood intentionally put less umpf in the 10mm? Obviously this is just speculation from suspicion
The difference in length of barrels bothers me lol and it shouldn't lol I just think it makes a bigger difference than one would think
I’m the 7th comment 💪🏾 yesss
Heck yeah💪. That counts.. glad u made it lol. I appreciate u checkin it out!!
@@AzAirgunner.Can you plz share a decent spot I can go out to for target practice .. there is a bunch listed under park management.. but would like a recommendation from your experience.. im out in scottsdale / ASU area..would greatly appreciate it. 🤟👊
@@tonyg1443 Email me bro,
AzAirgunner357@gmail.com I'll let u know the spot I go to.
Bravo!!!
Thank you!!
Nice ammo!!! Underwood doesn’t load Gold dots anymore
Market supply is difficult. If they could get the supplies, and the employees I am sure they would have more. XTP's work with higher velocity, expansion at lower speeds I believe critical defense has that market.
@@walkingwolf8072 A load that I was able to find a box of on Gubroker that he tested as well was the old tan box 125gr Winchester Ranger T's! He got around 1500fps and 600ft lb of energy from a G31 full size 4.5" barrel. That's very close to the Underwood Gold Dot load in performance, and it's what I carry in both my 357sig pistols (G33 and G23C with 4.6" KKM 357sig threaded barrel).
Thank you!! No sir they do not. Hopefully one day when everything kinda gets back to normal they will make another appearance. Thanks again buddy, I appreciate u taking the time to check it out!! Plenty on the way😁👍.
You know it’s moving fast when it comes out looking like a peyote button.
😄frfr.
Underwood doesn’t even make a 165 Gr anymore
357 sig is a baby 9x25mm. Tell me I'm wrong
Going about 1400fps so nah bad comparison . Don't down play the way sig screams out the barrel
@@calvinnelsonjr6465 no. At most it's a 400fps difference with similar increases and decreased with pressure and weight. Do with that information tell me I'm wrong and give me a better baby version of the Dillon. Also has to be necked down
A person gets hit with that in the chest they might as well shake hands with the lord
Gold dots are the bullet to beat for the hot rounds! Speer needs to get their shit together and get them back in the pipeline for not only handloaders but for small manufacturers as well. The Noslers Underwood loads now pale in comparison. They're engineered for 9mm and .40 short and weak in these diameters and not up for handling these velocities....they fragment badly and penetration suffers.
Most manufacturers stopped making new 357 sig ammo nobody buys it
@Agilepickleunite it has the same kind of devoted following 10mm did not too many years ago when people claimed it was dead
.40 gets no love?
10&40 same thing frl just a little more case & powder
10mil greater than 357sig everyday of the week. 9x25 Dillon also better than 357sig. If you wanna "equally" test rounds, test *"equal"* rds with *"equal"* grains and *"equal"* fps. And *"equal"* barrels. 10mil wins every time.
10mm is overrated people say they take 10 in grizzly country . If I was in the woods I got nothing less than a 44 mag
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