Why I Sold My RED Camera for $20,000

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  • @mattdavella
    @mattdavella 6 років тому +162

    We should start a support group.

  • @scottmckenna
    @scottmckenna 6 років тому +125

    Great video. Love the honesty. So many people think buying a RED instantly means more work and that’s the end of the story. So many other factors go into it.

    • @JorgeDourado
      @JorgeDourado 6 років тому +5

      Indeed, great point of view @caleb.
      It's easy to say Red its a great camera but at the end is what makes your work/workflow better.
      Next camera? Well why not try a Blackmagic Pocket 4K, you can set an amazing rig for 1/10 of the price, you will have prores and raw, yes its a 4:3 sensor but try a couple lenses and take your own conclusions.
      All the best, cheers.

    • @SoundSpeeding
      @SoundSpeeding 6 років тому +2

      Yup, gear is only a tiny factor of what leads you to getting work!

    • @dakkarocka
      @dakkarocka 6 років тому +6

      People usually buy something and get very tribal and defensive about their decision. This is refreshing.

    • @trentonharrisphotos
      @trentonharrisphotos 6 років тому +2

      You could of rented out to other DP's or filmmakers

    • @SoundSpeeding
      @SoundSpeeding 6 років тому +4

      There is a lot of hassles/overheads/risk with renting, not always a good option for everyone.

  • @mondobytes
    @mondobytes 6 років тому +89

    Great video, love my C200 and agree gear matters less these days as there are so many great options.

    • @bebespurs
      @bebespurs 6 років тому +4

      Love my c200 also!

    • @christophershivers6257
      @christophershivers6257 6 років тому +2

      What? Gear matters as much as anything. And I sold my C200 for the ursa mini pro. It’s a cool camera but it’s too much

  • @Itsallgoodtogo
    @Itsallgoodtogo 6 років тому +28

    Everyone is a gear hoarder at first.
    Its only after you spent too much money, you realize that skill can make any camera look amazing.

  • @MarcosRochaTV
    @MarcosRochaTV 6 років тому +103

    It's like you got the hottest chick in high school and you're telling us her personality sucks, so you are leaving her. Haha. I get so jealous when I see people with fancy gear, such as this RED. Deep down I know I don't need a RED, but still it makes me feel so behind. This is human nature.. I guess. Gear lust never stops man and I am glad you made this video.

    • @alexalexis7899
      @alexalexis7899 6 років тому +9

      "Human Nature" is also living long enough to grow up and realizing that personality beats looks in the long run - and more often than not, in the short term as well. If you point a RED at shit, it won't look like gold - nor golden shit. It'll be as shitty as if you pointed an a6300 at it instead. Make no mistake, I love gear/cameraporn as much as anyone who's in this industry, but it's important to be able to discern between what looks cool and what's actually useful and affordable.

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  6 років тому +1

      HA. Thanks Marcos.

    • @alex0589
      @alex0589 6 років тому +2

      The cheerleader was too high maintenance so he's just gonna "she's all that" another camera from chess club?

    • @AlbaAdventures
      @AlbaAdventures 6 років тому +1

      Haha.. Marcos, we are way behind and shooting on gear 5 years old (or more) D7100's and P7700- we have pushed these cameras beyond the limit..... Though we are thinking - will cleaner image attract more views. By the, we love your channel and that Adjustment Layer trick for FCPX has saved us so much time in editing. Keep up the good work.

    • @teamsiqfuti4721
      @teamsiqfuti4721 5 років тому

      Funny analogy! I think it's more accurate to say you got the hottest chick in school, but you were too insecure to handle her, and you felt more comfortable with a beater. Totally fine. Leave pro tools for pro gigs.

  • @michaelrayshard4368
    @michaelrayshard4368 6 років тому +21

    I think this is a very good video.... I currently own the Ursa Mini, but I've always wanted RED. For some reason, lusting after the next piece of shiny gear slows down production of projects that could be done with the gear one already owns. I'm going to save this video and watch it everytime I get gear lust. Thanks for sharing your experience.

  • @FitFlexJuli
    @FitFlexJuli 6 років тому +11

    So much real talk! Appreciate the authenticity!! ✊🏼

  • @BlaqViper
    @BlaqViper 4 роки тому +3

    Wow!! I felt dude’s pain and anxiety. It’s not always the coolness of the gear, but the vision, skillfullness and passion of the person holding it that creates some of the best work.

  • @andrewwyatt8016
    @andrewwyatt8016 6 років тому +3

    This is super encouraging. Thanks for being so transparent.

  • @TheophilusEmmanuel
    @TheophilusEmmanuel 5 років тому

    The RAW HONESTY in this video is waaaay off the charts! Hats off to you for choosing to be so vulnerable, bro!

  • @NMRADFILM
    @NMRADFILM 4 роки тому

    Hi this is Reagan and i’d like ask a question about Red epic Mx and red scarlet Mx. Can I used the canon lens and atomos ninja v with in?

  • @seanbrayboy3416
    @seanbrayboy3416 4 роки тому

    Preach!!! truly one of the best reviews on TUBE.. you always just tell it like it is.

  • @PerroneFord
    @PerroneFord 11 місяців тому +1

    My goodness what a heartbreaking and sad video to watch. Very well produced and honest though. As I prepare to buy my first RED camera, it hurts my heart to see so many videos like this. They all have the same common themes. I'm glad you found your way forward and got something that works better for you.

  • @gravitymediapro
    @gravitymediapro 6 років тому +5

    Man, I fully agree with what you said. RED was the "goal" camera, and I do business to business work exclusively. When I rented the RED for the first time and opened the box - all of the hype that I built up myself started to slowly deflate. The modularity of the camera is great for Hollywood, but for a single shooter - it just isn't practical. Great video.

  • @tombuck
    @tombuck 6 років тому

    This is an extremely well communicated circumstance. I really love your presentation style.

  • @MaxwellRidgeway
    @MaxwellRidgeway 6 років тому +24

    I own a Helium 8k, I understand where you're coming from. It all depends on the gig, some of my most successful filmmaker friends don't own an ounce of gear. They just rent everything. Keep up the good work. Although, I really do enjoy my RED!

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  6 років тому +2

      REDs are great, it is just not the camera I need right now. Thank you for watching!

    • @joellouisfire
      @joellouisfire 4 роки тому

      Renting has been the way to go for me as well!

  • @TylerMiller
    @TylerMiller 6 років тому +19

    I just got a C100 MKII and recorded my first wedding with it. I am extremely happy with how it performed. DPAF was great when using it on a gimbal, and I only had to bring two batteries for a shoot that spanned over a 12 hour day (and two 32GB SD Cards). Didn't have to use high quality internal audio recording for that, but I use it for my personal projects/UA-cam. I've never done any wedding videos before, that one being my first, but after posting some clips of that wedding, I already have two more inquiries for events. My C100 MKII only cost me $2800 (slightly used, body, top grip, side grip, extra battery, charger, and AC adapter) and if I can land these two other events I will already have that camera paid off.
    Not trying to make a sell for the C100 MKII, but it goes to show that you don't need the best of the best in 2018, and cameras that are "older" can still produce amazing quality when used correctly.

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  6 років тому +1

      Totally agree. That's why I'm sticking with my 2 C100II's for a while. Probably at least until NAB.

    • @AlbaAdventures
      @AlbaAdventures 6 років тому

      Only two 32GB SD cards - We had looked at 1 minute of RED footage - it was amazing though 22GB! Maybe we wont bother upgrading our gear..

    • @jonatanvillafana3244
      @jonatanvillafana3244 6 років тому +1

      I love my c100 mk ii.. 90% of my work are done by that camera and the footage looks great! What's crazy is that almost all of my export/deliveries are HD and the clients are always happy with it.

    • @jjr334
      @jjr334 5 років тому

      I also started to use the c100 mk II this year and I love the quality and funcionality it has

  • @brycepatingre
    @brycepatingre 6 років тому

    I love the honesty. We as video producers sometimes aspire towards owning the most expensive and admired tools only to realize they don't fit our needs. I'm content with my C100 and happy to hear so many others here realizing the same thing.

  • @jonjoy-gaba9832
    @jonjoy-gaba9832 6 років тому +6

    Thanks for your honesty. Break-ups are hard but when you're in the wrong relationship - you'll feel a lot better once it's behind you 😬! Hope the sale went well today and I'm looking forward to seeing some content from "Caleb Unleashed!"

  • @Markchristiankc
    @Markchristiankc 5 років тому +11

    Watching this now after almost a year of owning my RED, it hits me. I had always wanted a RED ever since I got into filmmaking at 16 years old (I'm almost 24). I got the opportunity to own a RED and I thought I'd get more work, filming would be better, everything would be better. I do love my red... But having had 25K to spend on either just one camera system, or say... A C200, an aputure 120D MKII... A bigger gimbal, some nicer glass... Nicer lights, etc etc... I wonder if I made a mistake. I have actually only used my camera for paid work like... Twice?... Once?.... Its honestly a shame, but also down to me moving countries and having no reputation and not enough work to show what I can do.
    The camera didn't help me get work, that'll always be down to past work and you making the effort to reach out to multiple potential clients.
    I'm seriously considering selling the camera and buying a C200 and the 120D MKII and then just saving/investing whatever is left. We gearheads love to collect gear but if we really look at what we need and what we use vs what we want and what we have... I think most of the times there's a lot of excess things we just don't need to have.
    Got a big decision to think about. Happy to hear thoughts from others. Thanks for the video man

    • @dna8269
      @dna8269 4 роки тому

      Wht did you end up doing bro?

    • @Markchristiankc
      @Markchristiankc 4 роки тому +6

      @@dna8269 sold the red, bought a pocket 4k and kitted it out. Never been happier

    • @wakkowarner8810
      @wakkowarner8810 10 місяців тому

      @@Markchristiankc how does the image quality of your 4k compare with the image quality of the red?

  • @palfrey411
    @palfrey411 6 років тому +4

    Completely agree, everyone I’ve spoken to who has used a red say exactly what your saying.
    We’ve loved our FS7 and now GH5 and BMPCC4K. They’ve completely met our needs and clients needs and will continue to do so for many more years in fact I see the mirrorless cameras doing the majority of our work in future as they are so good.
    Very few clients ask us what camera it will be shot on, what they care about is my company delivering a unique creative film for them which does exactly what they need. They don’t care about the tool we use to do it as they trust us enough that what whatever we choose to use it will be perfect for their film.

  • @davidaltizer
    @davidaltizer 6 років тому +4

    Totally agree. As I have matured in my career, I have found that the TOOL that does THE JOB is so so important. And the notes you said about price point is so important as well. You can now invest that money into lighting, lenses, and whatever else!

  • @TimDanyo
    @TimDanyo 5 років тому +1

    My FS5m2 does everything I need plus expand into the prores raw cinema space. What I love about it are the ergonomics. It may no longer have the specs on paper that other newer cams have out of the box, but the usability and accessibility this can provides is incredible.

  • @Retipster
    @Retipster 6 років тому +18

    “Wow, I’ve never seen a red before.” Lol... I think that’s exactly what I said when I first saw it. Great moral to the video though. The more expensive package isn’t necessarily the right fit for all (even though, expensive gear is definitely fun).

  • @tjdalyvideo
    @tjdalyvideo 6 років тому +1

    Thank you Caleb! I've bought and sold gear too - great to hear the entire process you went through with this investment. Thanks again!

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 6 років тому +9

    Thanks for sharing. A lot of stuff here to unpack.

    • @alex0589
      @alex0589 6 років тому +2

      Cant tell if pun intended

  • @gunnarsandberg8132
    @gunnarsandberg8132 4 роки тому +2

    Really good speech Caleb! I learned so much, but most important this is comparable to other material things too, don't just think twice and buy in when it's such huge amount! :-]

  • @nightmusic1974
    @nightmusic1974 4 роки тому +1

    Caleb, really honest and fully advice comments.Of course now that we're late 2020, my question would be: Would you finally go back to RED, now that the Komodo is available?

  • @guguemichaels
    @guguemichaels 6 років тому +5

    I feel you brother. I was in a similar situation. I had both the Red Epic and Scarlet. The kind of money I spent on building out both cameras, I could have made 2 indie films with that. Red did a fantastic job in branding. Everyone is going of their names. When i realized this, I sold my Red Scarlet and purchased the Blackmagic Ursa with it. Later purchased the Ursa Mini 4.6K and now just ordered the Ursa Pocket 4K. I'm full BMD cameras. Excellent for what I do. I just rent out my Epic Dragon and will be selling it soon because the demand is no longer there, even in rental. There's so much great cameras for cheap these days. So will be selling my Epic Dragon by the end of this year. So I feel your frustration. :-)

  • @MichaelStories
    @MichaelStories 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for sharing this experience! I agree, I love the C100 just because it a device that actually helps you in shooting. It's like your mini assistant.

  • @cruachfilms
    @cruachfilms 6 років тому +14

    C200 is a solid choice, best camera I've ever owned, love it.

  • @onlygknows7793
    @onlygknows7793 2 роки тому +1

    I was just about to pull the trigger on purchasing the Red but not after watching this video Thanks for saving me a shit load of unnecessary expenses i didn't take into consideration at all. I got so wrapped up in the hype of the brand name,

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  2 роки тому +1

      They are great cameras, no doubt, but depending on your filming situation (team size) and what you're filming they can be much harder to use.

  • @WildStagStudio
    @WildStagStudio 6 років тому

    I wish more people were as honest about their red cameras. For so many it can be the end goal just to own a red without actually thinking what they will use it for. We had the dilemma a year or so ago and ended up getting an FS7 because it fitted us better for where we were at as a company. Not ruling out a red purchase in the future but it’s so easy to be hypnotised by the prestige associated with owning one without taking a step back and thinking about the outlay. There’s always the rental house in the mean time! Great video!

  • @TonyMacina
    @TonyMacina 6 років тому +4

    This video perfectly explains why the rise of hybrid cameras took place from the Canon 5DmkII all the way to the GH5s now; portability, ergonomics and bang for your buck. I'm investing in the Blackmagic Pocket for narrative work, but I'm sure I'll end up with a GH5 or a C100 for run and gun in the future too, they're both so versatile and user friendly.

  • @thefilmguys858
    @thefilmguys858 6 років тому

    All totally valid points, but I just can't shake how much we love working with red footage in post.

  • @vincelundi
    @vincelundi 6 років тому

    I appreciate your honesty and transparency. Really good info as I'm at a crossroads right now with what camera gear invest in or not. I think I'll stick with my C200 after watching this. Thank you!

  • @martinmeyerbiz
    @martinmeyerbiz 3 роки тому +1

    Such a honest video. Thank you Sir for this one!

  • @jaykelley9881
    @jaykelley9881 5 років тому

    I like the fact that you are not Dissing RED, but just sharing your own compatibility issues with your business model vs the camera.

  • @SonduckFilm
    @SonduckFilm 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for sharing your experience! I debated buying the URSA Mini Pro vs the Red Scarlet-W. I ended getting the URSA since I could not figure out how I would get my money back with Red. Plus, the URSA has more features I need to speed up production. This video needs to be shared to those thinking of buying Red.

  • @mrclarky
    @mrclarky 6 років тому +19

    this is what I try and explain to people every time someone tells me they want a RED!

  • @HuFilms
    @HuFilms 6 років тому +14

    I use a gh5 for nearly everything I shoot now. No rig, no external battery, no matte box, no other extras other than an Atomos Ninja. With the ibis in camera I shoot mostly hand held. My work has improved as a result. I get about 3 times more shots from better angles than I used to when using a bigger rigged camera.

    • @gabrielbaron6470
      @gabrielbaron6470 5 років тому

      I've been considering that set up. What do you do for audio?

    • @streetgorillarecordsentert5489
      @streetgorillarecordsentert5489 5 років тому

      THE GH5 IS ONE OF THE BEST AND VERSATILE DSLR CAMERA OUT THERE RIGHT NOW...

    • @Rob0fheDead
      @Rob0fheDead 4 роки тому

      Hugh Sweeney i’ve worked with the gh5 and red a lot and both cameras are great but at the end of the day it’s a tool. If you need run and gun, go for the gh5. If image quality is your priority and you have a crew, go for the red.
      I absolutely love the red and have in the past tried to build my gh5 out into a red like camera but it gets too complex with too many parts and still just doesn’t compare to a red.
      Also, editing 8k red footage is easier on my rig than editing gh5 anamorphic footage... that compression just eats through your cpu

  • @GriffinConway
    @GriffinConway 6 років тому

    I have a C200 and love it’s. The raw footage is so good for grading and the 1080 is great when doing internet stuff or low budget stuff. Also the auto focus makes t great for one man band situations. Good luck with everything man!

  • @EgillBjarki
    @EgillBjarki 6 років тому

    Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and experience with RED. It takes confidence to come forward and share, what you essentially see as a mistake. I sympathise, been considering to get RED for a long time. We all want to improve our selfs and capability's, investing into a new more capable camera system seems to be logical step. Your video has really helped me understand all the other factors involved. Once again, thank you so much for this :)

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  6 років тому

      You're welcome Egill. Thanks for the kind words.

  • @raksh9
    @raksh9 6 років тому

    For years, a RED has been at the top of my dream gear list. But I shoot documentaries and events that require lightweight gear with a lot of speed and agility, so I've made do with mirrorless cameras and put up with their codecs. Watching this helps keep my RED fantasies at bay.

  • @pablovi77
    @pablovi77 6 років тому +8

    No one uses redvolt batteries for real work. I use them so the camera don’t shuts down when changing batteries. Also, most professional productions don’t use in camera audio. You can send a cable from the audio village, or you can use a cheap mic to record reference audio so you can sync automatically, but professional audio always records separately.
    Your problem is that what you do for living doesn’t requiere a Red Camera, and you can not afford it. You need a hell of a lot more than what you bought. And you need a crew, specially a focus puller and a good follow focus and a matte box.
    For what you do, stay with DSLR, mirrorless or video cameras, is gonna be easier, cheaper to do it. Digital cinema cameras are for Tv Series, Films, Commercials, etc. And yes, you do need a crew.
    I’m a cinematographer, and always shoot on RED or Alexa, I have 2 feature films and about 6 tv series shot on RED, and actually have never used a DSLR or small camera for video. And just got asked to shot a corporate video by a friend of the family, and could have asked to shoot it on RED, or even in Blackmagic Ursa Mini 4.6k if I want it cheaper, but I decide to try a mirrorless, I bought a Sony A7riii, and rented a A7Sii, and shot it with those two and a gimbal, and I couldn’t be happier! It way easier using those small cameras, they’re a lot more sensitive to light, lighter, using the gimbal is a breeze, and having perfect auto focus is a most! I would put change them to so small video shoots, even music videos. But I wouldn’t use them to shoot fiction, it will take more time to do it that way, and you’ll need to buy or rent a ton of equipment for the camera, like tripods, wireless follow focus, matte boxes, etc... that the price of the camera is irrelevant.
    So yeah, stick to what works for you.

  • @timosheard9582
    @timosheard9582 6 років тому +39

    Red is not for Videography, its for filmmaking

    • @UpperVIP
      @UpperVIP 5 років тому

      Totally, Timo.

    • @alexcook4347
      @alexcook4347 5 років тому +6

      THIS exactly. I can’t stand all the youtubers and random short film kids thinking Red is the answer. It’s for creating cinema quality work, not sterile videography work. People don’t seem to understand that and that’s why they get these cameras and instantly feel regret.

    • @trackingerror3626
      @trackingerror3626 5 років тому +3

      Even for cinema Red workflow and setup kinda sucks and even so that's no excuse for bad design

    • @frankiedogturner1516
      @frankiedogturner1516 5 років тому +2

      It is a total waste of money. Buy a Blackmagic and you get Da Vinci Reslove and you got it. Even a pocket 4K is way better than this piece of crap.

    • @teamsiqfuti4721
      @teamsiqfuti4721 5 років тому

      EXACTLY. "Hey I got this Ferrari, but I find that I never use it on the ranch...WTF."

  • @markjob6354
    @markjob6354 5 років тому

    I have suffered a great deal from Gear Owning & Continually Buying Addiction for several years and I know EXACTLY where you are coming from Caleb ! Thumbs up for YOU good man ! You have dared to PURGE yourself of the tentacles of your addiction !!! The Canon C200 and Red 4K have gone head to head in many UA-cam videos I have seen, and in most (But not all) cases, the Canon RAW Lite codec @ 12 Bit 4K DCI spec (4096 x 2160) on the C200 held redeemable information in the blown out areas and too dark areas of the image just like the RED 4K camera did, but not like a Red 6K or 8K did. I must say the results from the Canon C200 @ 10 Bit 4:2:2 look amazing, and the colour precison of the C200 @ 12 bit is strikingly good. The C200 in Davinci Resolve with a good timer can image and density match the footage to RED RAW, and few could tell the difference.

  • @Gleebi
    @Gleebi Рік тому

    Watching this video when it was first released vs now (mid 23), it's definitely good advice at the time and still remains solid. When you think about the acceleration of video specs in the past 10 years, and the price of gear dropping, making content is king. Sure having a red means clients will be momentarily impressed, but showreel and experience trumps all.

  • @michaeltebinka
    @michaeltebinka 6 років тому

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. It’s a very valuable insight and worth asking in a very gear-acquisition-heavy filmmaking world.

  • @tomcypher3864
    @tomcypher3864 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for the video. I want to share my setup: I have a used sony fs700 and an atomos shofun inferno. You can buy that for ~$3000 in total. And it is a 4k60 raw machine with 2k240 option as well.

  • @CostaClicks
    @CostaClicks 6 років тому +2

    Amazing video, we often get more focused on gear rather than being creative with and fully utilizing what we already have. I often try to get used gear of an older generation if I can, you are right most any camera today is good enough to allow us to be creative. Cameras are just tools and the artist eye and vision makes all the difference. The most expensive or tech heavy camera is not always the best, the camera that makes us want to get out there and shoot and allows us to execute our creative vision is the best.

  • @mattcarlson12
    @mattcarlson12 5 років тому

    Thank you for this honest review. Too often people focus on gear and I am guilty of lusting over RED cameras. Your video puts it back into perspective to focus on what type of content you shoot and I always film alone as well. I'm happy with my Sony system.

  • @DanielPeacocke
    @DanielPeacocke 6 років тому +16

    The "Cinema" level cameras I am looking at are the Kinefinty ones. They seem to be a nice in between of a C100 or C200 and a RED, and for a fraction of a cost of the RED. Great video, and great points! Always been a dream to own a RED, but there are so many options out there now!

    • @adzamree6870
      @adzamree6870 6 років тому

      they look a lot like high end film equipment with reasonable price tag but i still have to wait any film or shortfilms using it

    • @SoundSpeeding
      @SoundSpeeding 6 років тому +1

      Jump on vimeo or look around on youtube, plenty of footage shot with Kinefinity cameras now!

  • @mycompasstv
    @mycompasstv 6 років тому

    Informative hands on critique, much appreciated.

  • @christopherpackart
    @christopherpackart 6 років тому +1

    I like the C100ii since it's more in my price range, but I've been wondering if I should not get it and get a better camera that is more "future proof."

  • @EdglerVess
    @EdglerVess 6 років тому +1

    I was torn between the Raven and C200. The deal breaker was built-in ND and built-in XLR. Those 2 things are a must have especially if you’re a one man band. So happy with the C200, RAW Lite is a simply gorgeous image.

  • @NoTengoIlusiones
    @NoTengoIlusiones 5 років тому

    Honest review. No compromises.

  • @earthwatcher2012
    @earthwatcher2012 4 роки тому

    I really appreciate your brutal honesty and giving us some real wisdom about gear. I am still coveting a RED, but im much more ambivalent about getting one due to this vid. You might have saved me $35k !

  • @MarioVisions
    @MarioVisions 5 років тому

    thanks man you helped me a lot....honestly appreciate it...I ended up going with the Panasonic eva1 and went with something that fits more my style

  • @MichaelHodge
    @MichaelHodge 5 років тому

    I'm sure it's a great camera but sometime we all need a outlet. And I thank you for sharing that. Peace!

  • @OB_shredder
    @OB_shredder 6 років тому +2

    I relate to this a bit using the GH5 and GH5s with little M4/3 lens, while leaving the C100MKII at home with the giant glass.
    Been debating getting into Red, so thanks for this👍

  • @mrd.808
    @mrd.808 5 років тому

    By a large black curtain or black blanket to cover your equipment .That's what i do in Hawaii with my carpentry equipment and so far nothing has been stolen yet. Awesome video content! Thanks for sharing.

  • @chrisb6201
    @chrisb6201 6 років тому

    I love the honesty. Awesome video! I did the exact same thing but it was a motorhome.

  • @CarlMurawski
    @CarlMurawski 6 років тому +6

    Really a great rundown and I appreciate the honesty. It’s easy to feel the need to justify such a large purchase, but you’ve confirmed a lot of what I suspected about RED. I keep hearing people say the best filming experience they had was on the C100 mk2, and it’s shocking how well it’s held up in the world of exponential technology advancement. I’m really intrigued by the new Blackmagic cameras and their raw feature, could be a game changer!

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  6 років тому +1

      Yeah, if Canon could make a C100 III for $4,000 I think it would sell a lot. (Remove RAW from C200, remove SDI, other features.) I just think they go slow and steady with cinema releases and the C200 is a great upgrade for anyone who wants 4K.

    • @alexjohnson5815
      @alexjohnson5815 6 років тому

      I love the hell out of my Ursa Mini 4.6k-even before the newer raw-old Raw was still very good. but so is ProRes with the film gamma.
      I feel like the Ursa Mini addresses all of these complaints except autofocus, but especially the price.

  • @BejanFaramarzi
    @BejanFaramarzi 6 років тому +1

    Wooden camera - A-box audio solution :P Also you can get an ND Red PL or EF Mount.
    For corporate videos, events and interviews, the Red is overkill. It's meant for commercial, narrative and high end documentary work. Most small clients won't care about the model or camera as much.

  • @spo5egy
    @spo5egy 6 років тому

    Great video Caleb, Thank You.
    I love the concept of red, I personally shoot Sony and have been mainly using 4k but even that takes so much longer to go through my files and then render etc. and totally get the time it takes to get through a workflow with higher formats and so I can feel your pain and can't begin to imagine using a red. I'm sure the flexibility and quality is mind blowing. But then you have audio to deal with out of camera etc. All the best with whatever new product that you choose and Canon are wonderful too, I just ended up buying more glass for Sony and so I stay with that brand now.

  • @johnstirzaker6281
    @johnstirzaker6281 6 років тому

    What great lesson. I have been there with "the latest gear", in the end it hardly matters. I have just switched my still camera to one I tested 10 years ago and thought was astounding. Tried all the other latest models, but the results I get from the old one are still good. All you said in this video, would have driven me daft, good luck in the future.

  • @CornOffTheCobb
    @CornOffTheCobb 5 років тому

    I think the obvious best option is an Ursa Pro G2. You’re getting pretty much everything from the Raven and more for a third of what you paid for the Scarlet and it addresses 90% of the problems you mentioned. I’ve rented ursa’s on projects for years now and love them. I’m finally buying one soon as well!

  • @mackqi5903
    @mackqi5903 4 роки тому

    Really appreciated the honesty and I 100% agree that RED is not for everyone. Personally being a RED owner I feel like the best way (how I did it anyway) of purchasing a RED is purchasing a good quality second hand one. I paid about 18k AUD (about 11k USD) for a my Scarlet W kit. Came with all the part Caleb has (apart from it came with V mount batteries, and it was a 5inch monitor) and I feel like it worth every penny of the price. C200 are absolutely great cameras, but I still feel like it’s no comparison for the RED image wise.

  • @travisminneapolis
    @travisminneapolis 6 років тому

    Hi Caleb, I have a super hard time selling old gear on the off chance that I can use it again on a gig and don't want to "waste money on rental".
    Very cool that you have been clearing house and freeing yourself up to new experiences.
    Like you said, if the gear you buy is holding you back - don't be afraid to sell it and buy something different.
    I'm curious if you ever rented your Red - and the dollar side of it if it made sense given the rates rentals can bring?

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  6 років тому

      I tried to rent it, but the few leads I had fell through. A Scarlett-W in San Diego wasn't unique enough I guess.

  • @ronc166
    @ronc166 6 років тому +2

    I study film editing and have had the same issues. My question for me "what type of camera should "I" buy. Man !!!! This is a huge topic.
    A tip for whom would like to buy a camera: learn film editing.

  • @EdLovesTech
    @EdLovesTech 6 років тому

    Hi Caleb, I liked this video and I really appreciate the honesty in this video. I don't think many have the courage to speak up like this, as many creators have made this camera the must want in the video space. I find your videos to be very informative and educational. I am new to the craft of photography and videography, so I have trying to learn as much as I can in this creator space. I just made a UA-cam channel so I’m definitely doing my research to see what serves me best. Thanks for all the helpful content you put out. Look forward to seeing more. Just subbed, so I don’t miss out.

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  6 років тому

      Thanks for the sub and keep getting after it!

  • @alecwry
    @alecwry 6 років тому +9

    I wish Red would come out with a budget kit that is comparable to the C200/Mini Ursa/FS7 range. They just seem like they have to nickle and dime you at every step of the process.

    • @joelarvidsson
      @joelarvidsson 6 років тому

      Its looks like thats on there roadmap. I would guess we see something before 2019 is over.

    • @Fftopodcast
      @Fftopodcast 6 років тому +2

      They won't, they tried it with the Raven and it got super crazy, they were so backedup that they were delivering their orders year and a half after being placed. They had to discontinue the whole thing and since they have really bad costumer service well, I doubt they'll ever go back to doing that again.

    • @justbfilms
      @justbfilms 6 років тому

      There have been a few articles that said they’re working with Foxconn (who makes the iPhone apparently) to produce something like that. Here’s to hoping we get that.

  • @erthaldop
    @erthaldop 6 років тому

    Thanks for sharing that experience, Caleb! Hope everything turns out fine on the sale.
    I'm considering buying a Blackmagic UMP and coming from small mirrorless cameras it's important to consider things like workflow, camera size and weight, etc.

  • @le_tranq
    @le_tranq 5 років тому

    So true man, it's about finding that happy medium. I used a friends RED once for a shoot and realised straight after I'd never want to own one, even though the images are amazing. I shoot with a Zcam E2 now which I find to be a good fit for my work and style.

  • @matteobertoli
    @matteobertoli 6 років тому +13

    Not sure why you bought this camera in the first place, but it’s clearly the wrong tool for what you do. Appreciate the honesty tho, there are still plenty of people that own a RED and all they do are weddings or tech reviews which is absolutely ridiculous. A basic mirrorless would be totally ok for that kind of stuff. I think owning a RED or an Arri make sense if you shoot commercials or films and you are booked once a week and your client requires that kind of camera. That’s about it. Good luck!

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  6 років тому +5

      I don't really share much about my client work on UA-cam, which is what I used this camera for mainly, not just tech reviews. No weddings.
      When I bought it I was thinking I wanted to DP more and move into agency work, but I haven't really done that. I have learned a ton about using a RED though, so I could now easily use the system as a rental and be really comfortable.

    • @matteobertoli
      @matteobertoli 6 років тому

      Caleb Wojcik gotcha!

    • @AlbaAdventures
      @AlbaAdventures 6 років тому +1

      Hey Matteo, for my 50th (which is in a couple of days) I had dreamed of this camera.. After chatting with you - it was clear that was not the tool for us - as much as I thought -wow, maybe my sucky work would look less sucky. We know that is not true. ..

    • @jamesmathews243
      @jamesmathews243 5 років тому

      Thought I'd tune in on this conversation. A nice car will get nice clients faster than a nice camera. Put your money into the first impressions of your company. When a client sees you get out of a nice rig, they know they'll have to pay for it. When you step out of a Gremlin... they know they have you by the family jewels. I own Blackmagic cameras. If they actually ask what kind of camera I'm shooting on I simply say, "Anything you want me to shoot on." Then, when they see the line item, they're usually good with Blackmagic hahaha.

  • @BARKERPRODUCTION
    @BARKERPRODUCTION 4 роки тому

    All valid points. It really does depend on what you are shooting. Understanding yourself and your own needs is key. We usally shoot commercials, colorgrade everything, and often need to deliver 4K finals, so i love my Monstro and Gemini. As far as batteries go, we bought a dozen 100 MwH V-lock batteries and 2 dual chargers, so we never have battery issues. Good video tho. Well said.

  • @mmmDeez
    @mmmDeez 6 років тому +1

    Consider the Blackmagic Pocket 4K?

  • @MegaMusicMuse
    @MegaMusicMuse 4 роки тому

    Did you end up buying the c200? I have to say I find it really soft even at its highest sharpness. I can’t figure out why.

  • @DARKMETAL31
    @DARKMETAL31 5 років тому

    Great Video,very enlightening and honest.

  • @jeffsawade7353
    @jeffsawade7353 4 роки тому

    Hey Caleb, great video! The honesty ... what can I say? I have Sony 4k stuff and thought I needed Red for some reason. Won't be spending such thanks to you.

  • @boogalice
    @boogalice 6 років тому

    It's so vital to know your needs going in, and to do the research. Cinema cameras are not for vlogging.

  • @sessi0ns11
    @sessi0ns11 6 років тому

    Love the review! Not sure if someone has asked this yet as there are literally hundreds of comments, but what was your experience working with the Redcode RAW footage? Did you color on your own?

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  6 років тому

      I love editing and grading .r3d files. Extremely flexible. That was actually my favorite part of owning the camera. The raw flexibility and ability to grade like it is a raw photo.

    • @sessi0ns11
      @sessi0ns11 6 років тому

      Great to know, thank you! Last question - what program did you use to grade?

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  6 років тому

      Usually I just did grading in Premiere. Sometimes I would grade in RED's program though.

  • @manilamartin1001
    @manilamartin1001 5 років тому

    Step 1. I have a Red problem. Thanks for sharing. No judgement.

  • @tbj1220
    @tbj1220 5 років тому

    What did you think about the pocket cinema it's starting looking good with the updates

  • @ricardorgomez
    @ricardorgomez 5 років тому +1

    Fantastic video. As mentioned by others, your candor is greatly appreciated.
    It just goes back to what you need and not get caught up in the hype. Shoot, I've shot videos with a simple Panasonic GX8 and the video quality is fantastic even in HD. I would like 10-bit color for better color grading. But otherwise, it's completely fine. For the work I've been doing. ;-) Eventually I'll upgrade when the work requires it.

  • @glennsak
    @glennsak 6 років тому

    Wonderful video. Thanks, Caleb!

  • @danielcross1043
    @danielcross1043 6 років тому

    Great video....great talking. By sure creativity can not depend in having or not a piece of equipment. Congratulations!

  • @ErikHill1
    @ErikHill1 5 років тому

    Great video, thank you! I’m dying to one day own a RED but this puts things in perfect perspective. What do you think of the GH5’s?

  • @3rdGorilla
    @3rdGorilla 6 років тому

    Good decision Caleb. Happy with my Gh5 and Gh4

  • @GoFarAway5338
    @GoFarAway5338 6 років тому

    This is very useful. I'm 'late in life' new to this and the choices are dizzying.

  • @GUILLERMO.NESPOlO
    @GUILLERMO.NESPOlO 6 років тому

    Manual focus doing justice on the world of cinema !!!

  • @jw_film
    @jw_film 6 років тому

    It's great in principle having a Red but ergonomically it looks insane. Cheers for the video Caleb, it's definitely made me appreciate my C100 all the more

  • @SalsaColombiaUS
    @SalsaColombiaUS 6 років тому

    Easy fix, get a C200! It’s good enough to Commercials, feature films, youtube, raw, slowmo. No need to buy nd filters, it has autofocus, XLR inputs, Cfast cards, SD cards you name it. I saw your other video on the C200 and that’s why I bought mine))))

  • @sheridanflynn
    @sheridanflynn 5 років тому +1

    You just saved me about £15k. Thank you.

  • @DUST35
    @DUST35 6 років тому

    Great honest video!
    Btw, what's your favourite lens for the C100 mkII? I have the Sigma 18-35 f/1,8 and have found two things lacking (after shooting with the Canon XC10) is 1. Image stabilizer and 2. silent AF.
    Thanks!

    • @CalebWojcik
      @CalebWojcik  6 років тому

      I find myself using my Canon EF 24-105mm f/4 a lot

  • @topwaterfilms
    @topwaterfilms 6 років тому

    Hey Caleb. Thanks for being honest and "real". I own a C100 mkii also and thought of switching to RED, but I always stick to my Canon cameras because of the things you mentioned in this video. I think there are MANY RED owners in this situation ( do I NEED this camera ). Anyways, good move on selling! I'd like to see a cool documentary or passion project you do with your C100's!!!

  • @thesuperstar4470
    @thesuperstar4470 4 роки тому

    Is it bad ? Why did you sell ? Does arri has autofocus ? I am planning to buy arri for my work

  • @SoundSpeeding
    @SoundSpeeding 6 років тому +1

    I'm still shooting on a couple of Sony PMW-F3! Have a few times talked them into realizing this makes more sense than shooting on one RED

  • @KetzalSterling
    @KetzalSterling 6 років тому

    Fascinating Caleb. I've used all the same cameras. Interesting you actually enjoy using the Canon C series cameras. I dread using them compared to small mirrorless options like the GH5 and Sony A7 series. For the exact same reasons as you dislike the Red. Size, complexity and most importantly speed of operation. If it was a competition, no question the GH5 is the easiest handling video camera yet created. Your shot rate is guaranteed to be highest on a GH5. It's basically all sacrifices from there. Every step you take to increase image quality over the GH5, decreases your shot rate and convenience. It really comes down to your priority. I prioritize number of useable angles and convenience. Some prioritize pure quality. If you're a single operator, definitely chose the faster shooting option. If you have a full crew then obviously you can afford to significantly reduce your shot rate. Think of it in pure math. How many quality shots could you provide the editor/client on a one hour shoot? With the GH5 I could genuinely deliver over 50 if the shoot dictated it. That's nearly one quality shot a minute. On an Alexa I'd struggle to do 20. Same with Red. Bin the ego, use science, select the best camera for the work you do, not the work you wish you did...