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I'm so surprised in the song Mutiny. He does this breakdown/ Jam session version of the song Dream Factory, making this as far I'm aware the only live version of the track. Crazy crazy
And people say Wendy isn’t an amazing guitarist!!! She played the hell out of this solo for Alexa De Paris!! Plus Alexa is the precursor to Cream as it has the bass and drum elements towards the end
I tell you what, he got me on that "wooden leg" sxxt. He did. And the "free bird" Skynrd. I can't help but laugh, every time I hear/see it. But not the freebird. See how he was to me. This one, video, too.😔 I'm so lucky, to have seen this. U just don't know🥲. How,..much, this was needed. And the wonders of the need. TY❤❤ is a mere gesture to say.
Very interesting concert - feels like a transition show from ATWIAD to Parade. I can see the skeleton of the Parde shows (Detroit 86 Birthday Show) but this show is more relaxed with some interesting song choices. Paisely Park & Alexa De Paris in particular. I must admit though, I can see why the Revolution were frustrated with all the other people on stage - while I like it, they must have felt slighted after their cameos and importance to the Purple Rain explosion.
First Avenue was his second home and in front of the hometown folks… he was in his comfort zone. I’ve often thought the same, adding the others who literally contributed nothing musically - just took up space on the stage. Just hangers on. The Prince version of having several Yoko Ono’s ruining the vibe and ruining a historic band. I completely understand why some in the band got frustrated. My take is - years later realized he made a mistake which is why he reconnected with them from time to time. Was great while it lasted.
I'm sure Wendy's addition to the band back in 83 visually helped further P's desire to crossover..Hell, besides P, Wendy had the most lines from any other band member in the film Purple Rain..I do think though that dating her twin was hella risky..My opinion is that P had already told the band that this was their last tour with him..I can see the tension between P and Wendy in this as well as other shows from this tour..I know the band members have stated that they didn't know but I think they knew..Mark was already gone being that he officially quit after the PR tour..P asking Mark to stay on for this tour and not let anyone else in the band know..Bobby knew that Mark was leaving..P wanted Mark to stay on for the Signs and Lovesexy tours but it was sooo bad for Mark that he left after this tour..Couldn't deal with P anymore..When Wendy joined, the whole dynamic of the band changed..It was cool for the PR tour but afterwards, P gave the impression that he was super close with Wendy..When I don't believe that he was..People forget that Lisa lived with P when she first joined the band..She toured with P during Dirty Mind, Controversy and 1999 tours..It was Lisa who P was close to.. Not Wendy..Wendy served a purpose for P..I think P didn't want to deal with Dez's popularity and having to share the spotlight with him during the already planned film and tour..So Wendy, already knowing how P was, through Lisa, had the inside track to what was going on and what was coming..Just from her hanging out with Lisa, she ended up doing background vocals on Free and Irresistible Bitch..So P, already knowing Wendy played guitar, (And not hearing her in some hotel room) was already making his move regarding Dez..I think the trade off was P secure Dez a record deal with Warners (Big mistake on Dez's part)..And then the first slated single from Dez's solo album which was written by P..(Another big mistake on Dickerson's part) in "Modernaire"..P promised Dez a feature spot in the film, which was the least P could do for Dez..But then P went to Mo Ostin to block any release of Dickerson's album..The Modernaire single and album was scheduled to be released in the summer of 84..Right along with Appolonia 6, The Time and Sheila E.'s album (Whom Sheila wasn't even in the film)..Anyone ever wonder WHY Modernaire wasn't released to coincide with the film? Or ever for that matter?..Or WHY The Time wasn't on the tour like the previous tours?..Yeah I know..Morris quit after P fired Terry and Jimmy..Did he really?..Morris as well as The Time, wouldn't capitalize on the success of their first ever film?..Really?!..How convenient for P, wouldn't you say?..I saw The Time open for P on both Controversy and 1999 tours..And The Time put it on P like no other could..Personally, I never believed P wanted to risk being upstaged on such an important tour as the Purple Rain tour..He didn't want to hear it or read it like he did previously..No accident nor coincidence that both Dez and The Time were absent from that tour..So Wendy served a purpose..Ironically it was Wendy who came up with those Journey's Faithfully like chords in the first place..P heard that and KNEW that THIS was going to be his anthem for all time..But P dating Wendy's twin, then whatever the reason they split, P wanted Wendy gone..So if Wendy split, then Lisa had to follow her..Which I hated to see happen..I LOVED Lisa and she fit woking with P like a glove..Again, she KNEW P..Oh well..Just my educated opinion..Someone who had seen P live in concert many times since the Flippers show in L.A.
All good points. Some I agree with in part, others in whole. Regardless, definitely good points - thank you for the thoughts. I do agree dating Susannah made it more complicated because you know being twins she was confiding in and sharing all the details of their dating relationship - good and bad. Twins are closer than close, so obviously Wendy was going to side with her twin as she should. He should have left Su alone seeing that her sister was in his band, but let’s be real - Prince was a whore and a mass player at that time. I mean, he sexed 2/3 of Vanity 6 and if Brenda was single he would’ve done his best to sex her too. He sexed Sheila… he tried to sex every woman in his circle and was usually successful. If Vanity didn’t leave and starred in Purple Rain, he would’ve had 3 past and current partners in the movie - including his earlier ex - can’t remember her name right now (Shannon, Stacie, something like that) - the African American lady on the side in the First Ave scenes. That’s bold to potentially put 3 of your girlfriends in the same movie and they all know who the other is/was to him. That’s some pimp / player stuff. And you know Susannah was on the set, so that’s four. I was too young for the Controversy and 1999 tours but have heard the competition stories. When I attended a sit down with Jesse Johnson earlier this year he talked about all that. How P got the best of them on Controversy cuz they were new, but they killed him on 1999 tour and how P didn’t like it. What you said makes sense about them not being on the PR tour - never thought about that b4. Even though The Time had basically split by then you can’t tell me they wouldn’t have signed up what by then everyone knew was going to be a hugely successful tour! Seriously doubt after paying their dues the past 4 years they would’ve said “no” to their biggest guaranteed paycheck to date. I also think P didn’t want to pay them to tour and split those concert checks 3 ways instead of with only Sheila. One final note on PR movie - I noticed long ago that Mark is the only band member with no lines to make the final cut. I doubt that was an accident, for some reason - I think they always had some tension and it got worse and worse (denying Mark any real credit on Kiss I would guess was the straw on the camels back). Anyway… talking Prince could be a college class or one week symposium. Thanks again for the comments. Keep it up 👍🏼. 🕊️☮️
@@duane.PrinceDMSR The black lady in the First Ave scenes standing next to Jill was P's ex Kim Porter..That's one..Jill Jones, that's two..Susan Moonsie and Appolonia that's four..There is no way he didn't get with Appolonia..He was dating a Japanese make up artist on the set of Purple Rain..That's five..I don't believe he was still seeing Susannah during the filming..He was before filming started but during filming, I think she was trying to deny P..Trying to hang tough..Because he was sleeping with Appolonia and this Japanese make up artist..I think Susannah tried to cut P off totally..But she got caught up in him and his star status..I always thought there was a love hate thing between P and the Melvoin twins..I've always thought that Wendy was kinda jealous of Prince as well..Even before she joined the band..I think Wendy was jealous of P's talent, his musicianship..Also I think Wendy was jealous of P's and Lisa's closeness..P and Lisa were really close..Lisa loved Prince and she wasn't jealous of Prince..I believe Wendy harbored feelings toward Prince because of that..And P knew it..He played up on it..There was no real closeness between him and Wendy..Ever..P used Wendy to further his career by having 2 non black women in the group..He knew by adding Wendy that would help his career during Purple Rain and MTV..And it worked..The cat P had a problem with was Mark..I think P was jealous of Mark's bass playing and his youth..Mark was a beast on the bass and the only person P wasn't better than on a instrument..As talented as P was, he was very insecure..He was the same with Jesse..He didn't want Dez in the band during Purple Rain..P had a problem with Jesse and Mark because they were good looking cats who got a lot of attention from P's fans..Dez was a little different..P respected Dez more than anyone else and Dez was a little older..He had been there done that..But with Mark, he purposely dogged Mark out with him not having ANY lines in the film..Plus P was somewhat color struck and only wanted all of the white band members to have lines and NOT his only 1 black member..That had something to do with it..This ties in with P casting his mother as being German and not black..P was serious about this film crossover in Hollywood and he would have done anything..I think that had something to do with Vanity NOT being in the film..Vanity was black..Patricia wasn't..He didn't want to risk casting a white girl to replace Vanity..That would have been too much too soon..Especially just adding Wendy..P waited for his next film to do THAT...Agreed he would have gotten with Brenda if she was single..
I don't think anyone else notice this..But during P's guitar intro during Paisley Park, first Mark put his arm on the mic..Then Wendy actually walking around while P is paying homage to Hendrix..I think both Mark's and Wendy's display was disrespectful//Their body language was "Ok P..That's enough with the showboating on guitar.."
Never noticed, but looked again and see it now. If a sign of their displeasure or internal groan… it was later in the same year they were fired. It’s well documented Wendy, Lisa, Mark & Bob didn’t Jerome and the other non-musicians in the group. So clearly there was some growing tension and dissatisfaction throughout. Unsure of Mark but it’s good W&L and P all made up over time. 🕊️☮️
The energy in this show is phenom. But it's likely a "you had to be there" because the recording on this video itself is . . . well, unbearable. lol That ain't stopped me from watching this seven times already lol but man, I hope the sound was better at the venue back in 1986!
This was when he, although still brilliant in the studio, started getting kind of corny to me live. After he became a bonafide superstar from “Purple Rain”, he lost that edge he’d had live prior to and during PR. Shows got too slick and he was too full of himself. Those three 🤡🤡 dancing around onstage were lame and unnecessary.
Uhhmm !! Now, we know, for certain, that, he wasn't talking to or about Lisa, or Wendy, or Vaniry,,orr Jill, or any other female, entirely, for that matter, because we know that they all damned well would, did, have sex, with him., On the spot, if he wanted. So, just, for your attention to detail. TY
Thanks a lot for your contribution, Love Purple Mind ! 💜💜💜
Mr Christopher Tracy and the revolution and the artist unbelievable and unthinkable and unspeakable and unreachable
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❤flashbacks of PRINCE early DAYS I'M HAVING A M-I-N-D-B-L-O-W-I-N-G EXPERIENCE WITH PRINCE 💜🎶 THANKS FOR THIS FOOTAGE THEY ALL WORKED SO WELL WITH EACH OTHER ENCOURAGED AND ENGAGED WITH PRINCE 💜🎶👏🏽
U r very welcome, thank u 4 viewing. The Revolution was his best band in my opinion.
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Fine work sir. Always wondered what it must have been like in First Avenue when P was trying out new material.
I remember on tour with a death metal band and we played on that stage….I was quite happy!
First Avenue concerts are so pure, raw and special. He waams at home :)
Thank you for this post!!!
I'm so surprised in the song Mutiny. He does this breakdown/ Jam session version of the song Dream Factory, making this as far I'm aware the only live version of the track. Crazy crazy
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You made my day
Ha! The Wooden leg dance.
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Great concert, album, movie - "Under The Cherry Moon", and great music videos!
And people say Wendy isn’t an amazing guitarist!!! She played the hell out of this solo for Alexa De Paris!! Plus Alexa is the precursor to Cream as it has the bass and drum elements towards the end
Shout out to all the Revolution band members!
Wendy specifically at this time was Prince's eyes and ears
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What a great opener starting off the gig with the psychedelic 'Around the World in a Day'.
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I tell you what, he got me on that "wooden leg" sxxt. He did. And the "free bird" Skynrd. I can't help but laugh, every time I hear/see it. But not the freebird. See how he was to me. This one, video, too.😔 I'm so lucky, to have seen this. U just don't know🥲. How,..much, this was needed. And the wonders of the need. TY❤❤ is a mere gesture to say.
WOW!!!!
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WOW. So cool!
phantastic - thanks a lot
BTW Wendy is great in this show!
Wendy: "Lisa and I thought about that one"
Prince: "lISa AnD i thOUGghT aBoUt THAt onE"
Please share part 2 and 3!
You didn’t look in the notes 😏 - it’s linked there.
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Very interesting concert - feels like a transition show from ATWIAD to Parade. I can see the skeleton of the Parde shows (Detroit 86 Birthday Show) but this show is more relaxed with some interesting song choices. Paisely Park & Alexa De Paris in particular. I must admit though, I can see why the Revolution were frustrated with all the other people on stage - while I like it, they must have felt slighted after their cameos and importance to the Purple Rain explosion.
First Avenue was his second home and in front of the hometown folks… he was in his comfort zone. I’ve often thought the same, adding the others who literally contributed nothing musically - just took up space on the stage. Just hangers on. The Prince version of having several Yoko Ono’s ruining the vibe and ruining a historic band. I completely understand why some in the band got frustrated. My take is - years later realized he made a mistake which is why he reconnected with them from time to time. Was great while it lasted.
1st Ave was originally called Uncle Sam's. Building looked like a top hat.
This is recorded from a TV screen
I'm sure Wendy's addition to the band back in 83 visually helped further P's desire to crossover..Hell, besides P, Wendy had the most lines from any other band member in the film Purple Rain..I do think though that dating her twin was hella risky..My opinion is that P had already told the band that this was their last tour with him..I can see the tension between P and Wendy in this as well as other shows from this tour..I know the band members have stated that they didn't know but I think they knew..Mark was already gone being that he officially quit after the PR tour..P asking Mark to stay on for this tour and not let anyone else in the band know..Bobby knew that Mark was leaving..P wanted Mark to stay on for the Signs and Lovesexy tours but it was sooo bad for Mark that he left after this tour..Couldn't deal with P anymore..When Wendy joined, the whole dynamic of the band changed..It was cool for the PR tour but afterwards, P gave the impression that he was super close with Wendy..When I don't believe that he was..People forget that Lisa lived with P when she first joined the band..She toured with P during Dirty Mind, Controversy and 1999 tours..It was Lisa who P was close to.. Not Wendy..Wendy served a purpose for P..I think P didn't want to deal with Dez's popularity and having to share the spotlight with him during the already planned film and tour..So Wendy, already knowing how P was, through Lisa, had the inside track to what was going on and what was coming..Just from her hanging out with Lisa, she ended up doing background vocals on Free and Irresistible Bitch..So P, already knowing Wendy played guitar, (And not hearing her in some hotel room) was already making his move regarding Dez..I think the trade off was P secure Dez a record deal with Warners (Big mistake on Dez's part)..And then the first slated single from Dez's solo album which was written by P..(Another big mistake on Dickerson's part) in "Modernaire"..P promised Dez a feature spot in the film, which was the least P could do for Dez..But then P went to Mo Ostin to block any release of Dickerson's album..The Modernaire single and album was scheduled to be released in the summer of 84..Right along with Appolonia 6, The Time and Sheila E.'s album (Whom Sheila wasn't even in the film)..Anyone ever wonder WHY Modernaire wasn't released to coincide with the film? Or ever for that matter?..Or WHY The Time wasn't on the tour like the previous tours?..Yeah I know..Morris quit after P fired Terry and Jimmy..Did he really?..Morris as well as The Time, wouldn't capitalize on the success of their first ever film?..Really?!..How convenient for P, wouldn't you say?..I saw The Time open for P on both Controversy and 1999 tours..And The Time put it on P like no other could..Personally, I never believed P wanted to risk being upstaged on such an important tour as the Purple Rain tour..He didn't want to hear it or read it like he did previously..No accident nor coincidence that both Dez and The Time were absent from that tour..So Wendy served a purpose..Ironically it was Wendy who came up with those Journey's Faithfully like chords in the first place..P heard that and KNEW that THIS was going to be his anthem for all time..But P dating Wendy's twin, then whatever the reason they split, P wanted Wendy gone..So if Wendy split, then Lisa had to follow her..Which I hated to see happen..I LOVED Lisa and she fit woking with P like a glove..Again, she KNEW P..Oh well..Just my educated opinion..Someone who had seen P live in concert many times since the Flippers show in L.A.
All good points. Some I agree with in part, others in whole. Regardless, definitely good points - thank you for the thoughts. I do agree dating Susannah made it more complicated because you know being twins she was confiding in and sharing all the details of their dating relationship - good and bad. Twins are closer than close, so obviously Wendy was going to side with her twin as she should. He should have left Su alone seeing that her sister was in his band, but let’s be real - Prince was a whore and a mass player at that time. I mean, he sexed 2/3 of Vanity 6 and if Brenda was single he would’ve done his best to sex her too. He sexed Sheila… he tried to sex every woman in his circle and was usually successful. If Vanity didn’t leave and starred in Purple Rain, he would’ve had 3 past and current partners in the movie - including his earlier ex - can’t remember her name right now (Shannon, Stacie, something like that) - the African American lady on the side in the First Ave scenes. That’s bold to potentially put 3 of your girlfriends in the same movie and they all know who the other is/was to him. That’s some pimp / player stuff. And you know Susannah was on the set, so that’s four.
I was too young for the Controversy and 1999 tours but have heard the competition stories. When I attended a sit down with Jesse Johnson earlier this year he talked about all that. How P got the best of them on Controversy cuz they were new, but they killed him on 1999 tour and how P didn’t like it. What you said makes sense about them not being on the PR tour - never thought about that b4. Even though The Time had basically split by then you can’t tell me they wouldn’t have signed up what by then everyone knew was going to be a hugely successful tour! Seriously doubt after paying their dues the past 4 years they would’ve said “no” to their biggest guaranteed paycheck to date. I also think P didn’t want to pay them to tour and split those concert checks 3 ways instead of with only Sheila.
One final note on PR movie - I noticed long ago that Mark is the only band member with no lines to make the final cut. I doubt that was an accident, for some reason - I think they always had some tension and it got worse and worse (denying Mark any real credit on Kiss I would guess was the straw on the camels back).
Anyway… talking Prince could be a college class or one week symposium. Thanks again for the comments. Keep it up 👍🏼.
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@@duane.PrinceDMSR The black lady in the First Ave scenes standing next to Jill was P's ex Kim Porter..That's one..Jill Jones, that's two..Susan Moonsie and Appolonia that's four..There is no way he didn't get with Appolonia..He was dating a Japanese make up artist on the set of Purple Rain..That's five..I don't believe he was still seeing Susannah during the filming..He was before filming started but during filming, I think she was trying to deny P..Trying to hang tough..Because he was sleeping with Appolonia and this Japanese make up artist..I think Susannah tried to cut P off totally..But she got caught up in him and his star status..I always thought there was a love hate thing between P and the Melvoin twins..I've always thought that Wendy was kinda jealous of Prince as well..Even before she joined the band..I think Wendy was jealous of P's talent, his musicianship..Also I think Wendy was jealous of P's and Lisa's closeness..P and Lisa were really close..Lisa loved Prince and she wasn't jealous of Prince..I believe Wendy harbored feelings toward Prince because of that..And P knew it..He played up on it..There was no real closeness between him and Wendy..Ever..P used Wendy to further his career by having 2 non black women in the group..He knew by adding Wendy that would help his career during Purple Rain and MTV..And it worked..The cat P had a problem with was Mark..I think P was jealous of Mark's bass playing and his youth..Mark was a beast on the bass and the only person P wasn't better than on a instrument..As talented as P was, he was very insecure..He was the same with Jesse..He didn't want Dez in the band during Purple Rain..P had a problem with Jesse and Mark because they were good looking cats who got a lot of attention from P's fans..Dez was a little different..P respected Dez more than anyone else and Dez was a little older..He had been there done that..But with Mark, he purposely dogged Mark out with him not having ANY lines in the film..Plus P was somewhat color struck and only wanted all of the white band members to have lines and NOT his only 1 black member..That had something to do with it..This ties in with P casting his mother as being German and not black..P was serious about this film crossover in Hollywood and he would have done anything..I think that had something to do with Vanity NOT being in the film..Vanity was black..Patricia wasn't..He didn't want to risk casting a white girl to replace Vanity..That would have been too much too soon..Especially just adding Wendy..P waited for his next film to do THAT...Agreed he would have gotten with Brenda if she was single..
Jimmy Jam I dont want to hear this on your new record 😅
And then singing "What have you done for me lately?" during Controversy 😂
I don't think anyone else notice this..But during P's guitar intro during Paisley Park, first Mark put his arm on the mic..Then Wendy actually walking around while P is paying homage to Hendrix..I think both Mark's and Wendy's display was disrespectful//Their body language was "Ok P..That's enough with the showboating on guitar.."
Never noticed, but looked again and see it now. If a sign of their displeasure or internal groan… it was later in the same year they were fired. It’s well documented Wendy, Lisa, Mark & Bob didn’t Jerome and the other non-musicians in the group. So clearly there was some growing tension and dissatisfaction throughout. Unsure of Mark but it’s good W&L and P all made up over time.
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The energy in this show is phenom. But it's likely a "you had to be there" because the recording on this video itself is . . . well, unbearable. lol That ain't stopped me from watching this seven times already lol but man, I hope the sound was better at the venue back in 1986!
I feel prince when he said jimmy jam i better not hear this on y'all records 😂
This was when he, although still brilliant in the studio, started getting kind of corny to me live. After he became a bonafide superstar from “Purple Rain”, he lost that edge he’d had live prior to and during PR. Shows got too slick and he was too full of himself. Those three 🤡🤡 dancing around onstage were lame and unnecessary.
I agree to a certain extent, I never liked the dancers on stage, like u said unnecessary.
the horns on Alexis de Paris just don't work.
Uhhmm !! Now, we know, for certain, that, he wasn't talking to or about Lisa, or Wendy, or Vaniry,,orr Jill, or any other female, entirely, for that matter, because we know that they all damned well would, did, have sex, with him., On the spot, if he wanted. So, just, for your attention to detail. TY