Is This Really A Good Idea For Making Deck Joists Between Decking Planks Last Longer?
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- www.homebuildin... Click on this link if you're looking for more helpful videos about deck building, home remodeling and house repairs. This video will provide you with a different way for framing your deck, in a manner that might prevent moisture and debris from getting trapped in between the ends of decking breaks or where the decking planks join together. This is usually an area prone to wood rot and the method used in this video might be able to prevent this type of damage.
I find it a very good idea. Never saw a drip cut in any of the projects I have been following. I did see one of the carpenters giving the edge of the wood, let's say instead of the drip cut a slight angle inwards cut. It does look straight but lets the water run smoother and down, which I am planning on doing.
Thank you very much for your videos. Especially, this one brought some clarity as to how I will do my frame. It just came together in my head and I drafted it.
You're welcome and drips cuts usually require more effort and labor. That's why I think they aren't always seen.
The water will still run down on every floor joist because of the space between each deck board on top of the joists. Seems like it would be a waist of time trying to stop the water from going down the seam of the end boards, since water will still hit the joists anyway.
That would be more along the lines of my thinking. It's outside is going to get wet.
How about this? Need two boards together in order to span the distance and need a third inorder to lock the end boards after the picture frame? Three wide?fine,or bad idea?
I like the idea of the double joist for supporting the end of boards and not trying to hit joist on angle. But I question your idea of the rain groove on end cuts but there is no rain groove on the length of the boards. Might as well Joist tape the tops of joist.
In my experience, an open deck will last only so many years, and when it's time for it to rot, it will rot. If you want a deck to last longer, put a roof above it.
I've been a firm believer in maintenance and not suggesting that I do it all the time, but maintenance is definitely the key to extending the life of most outdoor wood projects. And great suggestion about the roof.
Jerry Bee You say it will eventually rot anyway. It’s true, however there is a big difference if it will rot in 10, or in 15 years. If you get 50% more lifetime for loke 10% extra cost, it is a good investment.
@@juzoli Yes, i'm not against maintenance.
@@gregvancom I'm not against maintenance.
Solid stain will keep it longer.
The problem I have with the double joist is possible warping of ends as the deck boards shrink...I'm doing a 64'x 12.5' deck, I'm in pa where its unpredictable as tohow the boards shrink but when first laid they should gave NO GAPS,once the wood shrinks, it'll gap itself properly, I ruined my first deck by using DECK CORRECT, it bubbled up and held moisture! So sticking with a semi transparent stain!
This method also saves time when you no longer have to drill pilot holes on board ends to prevent splitting, since the screws are offset from the splice just enough.
Definitely a good idea thanks for the helpful comment. Splitting wood at the ends creates another problem.
For shorter decks, can you reorient the joists and install the planking perpendicular to the house or shed?
You can change the joist and decking direction as long as they are perpendicular as you suggested.
What we have always done on any framing crew I've worked on is put a 30° similar to how you would splice a long stretch of baseboard. if the wood expands or contracts on that seam there wont be an exposed gap with the bevel cut
I've never done that on a deck, because I've seen problems with the upper exposed pointed edge of the angled woodcut receiving excessive wear over time. I would love to hear your opinion on what your experience has been over time with your method.
gregvancom I definitely understand that. I've seen the edge split if screwed on the face. I was taught to back the bevel off an 1/8" so when it expands it's not sticking out. It's more of a personal preference I guess.
I don't do that where I live in Alabama. I build decks and pretty much everything by myself these days since it's gotten to where people don't wanna work looks like a good idea, but not sure I want to take a chance with that method on this particular deck. It's gonna be 10x40 with 6x6 posts. 5 of those posts running across the front, I'd like to try it one day
I understand what you're talking about and even though it might make sense it might not always be practical, especially when you need to add more joist to your lumber list.
i guess the problem of people not wanting to work is everywhere it’s crazy kids don’t want to learn the craft of carpentry it’s crazy
I just built a 40x8 deck on a 15 foot incline with 6x6. nightmare 😢
I started building all framing of decks and patios out of 14ga purlin and just screwing my wood deck boards to the purlin.
Definitely an interesting concept that I wasn't familiar with, but for those of you who are interested, I simply typed this keyword phrase into my favorite search engine "decks and patios out of 14ga purlin". Thanks for sharing.
Maybe cap the top of the joists with vinyl c-channel. The c-channel doesn't need to be but an inch. Then use a little RTV at the seams.
Definitely another option and sealing these joints just might be better than using the double joist and definitely cheaper.
If there’s no roof it’s going to rot!!! Plain and simple . And how many people really use there decks ? I live in mn . The mosquitoes play havoc on you. Up here there the biggest waste of money.
tape the top of the beams, quicker, cheaper, impervious to moisture
Pressure treated frame?
Even if water hit it, it would take forever to rot a joist
It sounds good, but I've seen pressure treated rot in short periods of time.
Great video by the master!
Glad you liked it and thanks again for watching.
I suppose flashing over the top of the joists would protect them enough.
in the process of replacing my deck, it lasted 40 years. just a basic flat deck.
That is why pressure washing is performed
Why not build it out of Titanium.
Exactly!!!
If the joint is over a joist 100% of the water will contact and run down the joist, so I wouldn't sweat the drip cut.
Put packers between the close joists to join sections together should work 🤔🤫
I’m in northeast Ohio and no matter what you do it’ll rot. Lol
The snow belt plays hell with everything
Most definitely.
Bad idea. You already have gaps between the board. Over thinking. Remember KISS.
I think the visual Gap is strictly for demonstration purposes.
Good idea about the bad idea and thanks for posting.
Joist tape.
The good stuff, but is that 8 track or cassette tape:)
I use zip tape over the top of the joists.
That seems like a good idea.