Something that probably gets overlooked by a lot of fans is just how important it was for Hotrod to be at Lookout Mountain. If he wasn't there to spot the Decepticons, they would have successfully invaded Autobot City, and the slaughter would have been a lot worse, as there would have been no time to activate the defenses.
Very solid point. The Decepticons were already winning the war during the series and by the movie, the Autobots were on the brink of defeat. Laserbeak's infiltration damn near single-handedly cost them the war. The little warning that Hot Rod gave kept the Decepticons from taking Earth.
Very solid point. The Decepticons were already winning the war during the series and by the movie, the Autobots were on the brink of defeat. Laserbeak's infiltration damn near single-handedly cost them the war. The little warning that Hot Rod gave kept the Decepticons from taking Earth
People shit on hotrod but really he had great battlefield awareness, he saved Kup, he recruited the Junkions. His getting in the way of optimus was a mistake but Optimus should have shot through hotrod. Hotrod used his insight to see what megatron was up to and attempted to thwart his deception. He had great battlefield awareness. Hotrod gets a bad rep and it is undeserved.
@@Cyril29a That last point about Optimus is what really frustrates me when people put the entirety of the blame Hot Rod for his death. Yeah, he could have handled it better than getting in the way, but this isn't Micheal Bay's Optimus Prime. His fate was already sealed when he hesitated and let Megatron beg, before Hot Rod even got involved. Even if it did come down to a quick draw between the two leaders, had Optimus missed or had Megatron managed to dodge, Optimus wouldn't have had enough time to fire a second shot with that heavy rifle, while Megatron (as we saw in the movie) could easily rapid fire with the small blaster. TLDR: 1980's Optimus Prime likely wasn't going to survive that situation regardless of Hot Rod's interference.
I feel like the lead-in to the Deceptacon attack on the shuttle made the whole scene a lot more eerie. Like the cockiness of “I can dodge a few ice chunks.” giving way to that brutal massacre made it feel oddly real in how jarring the surprise attack was.
Mirage is my favorite Autobot and the fact that he was storyboarded yet not shown is a shame. @15:43. Also glad to see why Bombshell wasn't one of the insecticons eating through the city defenses.
Excellent work; this is great. What I found most striking was the part where Unicron is attacking Lithone and with the soundtrack not playing in the background you are left with just the character voices. For me it was quite chilling to hear their voices alone and all the screams and cries as Unicron is devouring their planet. With the score you just wouldn't have heard all of that, or not as clearly, so that was a revelation for me - and good work on that part. The other bit that I found slightly eerie was one of the deleted scenes. It was the one where Mirage has just shot Bombshell in the back as the City is transforming, with Mirage in the reclining section. As it's reclining Megatron blasts it with Mirage in and you hear Mirage yell. Quite a striking feature. As I've got older I have really struggled to come to terms with all the Autobot deaths in the movie, as well as the ones that were in the original storyboard and didn't make the final cut, that I learned about years later. This movie was a huge part of my childhood and I still get hairs standing on end and pains in the chest watching it, the Autobot deaths now move me in a way that they didn't as a child. But I still love the movie and well done on this video Rogers Stinson - top job. I love it.
@@delinquenter at least Megatron got reformatted into Galvatron. So he never truly died. Prime had Megatron where he wanted he effectively had him dead to rights and then hotrod had to intevene and make prime refuse to shoot
This vexes me even more! All of my favorite characters were in the film, regardless if the were deleted, I would still liked to have seen them! Hate when hollywood chops up great movies!..smh
Also, I kinda feel like Instruments of destruction fit best in the attack of the FIRST shuttle in the movie... But who am I kidding if this is supposed to be the restoration for the movie, then... I won't complain. I like BOTH versions of this movie!
In the original first writings of the movie, there were a lot of Decepticons that met their end during this battle. Including tons of generic decepticons
@@MisterR82 I really wished they shown more generic transformers fighting as it would've made the battle a bit more realistic considering EXTREMELY massive size of the city
To be honest, I kind of prefer the shuttle attack theme over instruments of destruction for the attack on shuttle scene. I don’t know, I just find it more suspenseful and gritty to go along with the dark theme of the film, than what the final cut had
I agree, although I wonder if it was the other way around, would I be saying the same thing. Sometimes when things are fresh, they just hit different. But yeah, hearing this new version makes it way more gritty, like you said.
I will never get why Prime calls Jazz over the computer/vid link, yet he is literally standing behind him. That and the fact Blaster and Perceptor stop to have a chat while the cassettes are going to at it tooth and nail.
Hope this is ok to ask too, but: Would you like to work together in finding people to doing a full-animating of your TFTM with storyboards here? I can't animate, but I can help find those who can.
@superdave If that's the case then... WOW, that is... Fuck, I don't know how to describe this. You know... I remember hearing something about Rock and roll adventure from the commercial. Also, I have Instruments of destruction on my MP3.
I have another animator who's interested in animating your storyboards-usage work here. Please LMK if you'd like to work with us on this, and make it completely animated. :)
2:21, now this woulda explained some of the Lithonians appearing in Rebirth with Zarak and his team. For the intro from 3:00 - 4:09, I hope this helps. Voltron is here to help: ua-cam.com/video/sSjwZpXv3YA/v-deo.html
sorry but the occasional added story boards and that odd green blob thing in the intro kinda messed this up for me. Also, removing the iconic unicron medly throughout the first part also messed it up a little. Also why'd you remove the iconic pass through of the "The Movie" part of the title. you also added some music after the scene right before megatron wrecks things on the autobot ship. it didn't really belong. I watched as much as I could but the storyboards just popping up at so many random parts was super distracting for me. :( The added music that is nowhere on any of the TF movie soundtracks through me off a bit too. Not trying to destroy all the work you put in, but... I feel like maybe color the story boards or something? idk or...just don't put them in at all?
Ee. I was working with few resources I could find. I simply used what I could. Also, I reason I used the demo version of unicrons theme was because it just sounded better to me. Also also yes some of the music is not on soundtrack (2 of them from this to part 5 aren’t even from the movie’s production), but that’s because it’s actually from the protoform sessions by Vince DiCola. Also, it is called an extended cut for a reason ( no offense). Also, the green blob was actually a green star.
Ok so Starscream’s voice is really annoying. The problem with this movie is some of the voices sound like the people in charge just had some strangers off the street do it. I also hate Daniel. Anything with a kid just screws things up. Also if Spike is Married to Carly where is she in this movie. It would have been nice to see her play a bigger role. I must say the movie has some cool music and amazing animation. I love the dark tone. Even if they did kill off some characters I like that because it’s not going to always be a happy ending.
You might find this video on the Movie interesting: ua-cam.com/video/HgcX9kGUpDw/v-deo.html Even mentions how Daniel first came about as the character wasn't originally going to be Spike's son. As for Carly she likely wasn't in the movie as she was probably still on the drawing board as the first movie scripts were being written during Season 1 before she was introduced/created.
Something that probably gets overlooked by a lot of fans is just how important it was for Hotrod to be at Lookout Mountain. If he wasn't there to spot the Decepticons, they would have successfully invaded Autobot City, and the slaughter would have been a lot worse, as there would have been no time to activate the defenses.
Very solid point. The Decepticons were already winning the war during the series and by the movie, the Autobots were on the brink of defeat. Laserbeak's infiltration damn near single-handedly cost them the war. The little warning that Hot Rod gave kept the Decepticons from taking Earth.
Very solid point. The Decepticons were already winning the war during the series and by the movie, the Autobots were on the brink of defeat. Laserbeak's infiltration damn near single-handedly cost them the war. The little warning that Hot Rod gave kept the Decepticons from taking Earth
@phoenixmg so true. Hot Rod should have alerted Autobot City first before blasting
People shit on hotrod but really he had great battlefield awareness, he saved Kup, he recruited the Junkions. His getting in the way of optimus was a mistake but Optimus should have shot through hotrod. Hotrod used his insight to see what megatron was up to and attempted to thwart his deception. He had great battlefield awareness. Hotrod gets a bad rep and it is undeserved.
@@Cyril29a That last point about Optimus is what really frustrates me when people put the entirety of the blame Hot Rod for his death.
Yeah, he could have handled it better than getting in the way, but this isn't Micheal Bay's Optimus Prime. His fate was already sealed when he hesitated and let Megatron beg, before Hot Rod even got involved. Even if it did come down to a quick draw between the two leaders, had Optimus missed or had Megatron managed to dodge, Optimus wouldn't have had enough time to fire a second shot with that heavy rifle, while Megatron (as we saw in the movie) could easily rapid fire with the small blaster.
TLDR: 1980's Optimus Prime likely wasn't going to survive that situation regardless of Hot Rod's interference.
I feel like the lead-in to the Deceptacon attack on the shuttle made the whole scene a lot more eerie. Like the cockiness of “I can dodge a few ice chunks.” giving way to that brutal massacre made it feel oddly real in how jarring the surprise attack was.
Mirage is my favorite Autobot and the fact that he was storyboarded yet not shown is a shame. @15:43. Also glad to see why Bombshell wasn't one of the insecticons eating through the city defenses.
They need to remake the whole movie and add all of these parts it would make Millions and release it on the same day original came out
Hearing Prowl screaming when he was internally destroyed at 8:27 gave me chills.
Excellent work; this is great. What I found most striking was the part where Unicron is attacking Lithone and with the soundtrack not playing in the background you are left with just the character voices. For me it was quite chilling to hear their voices alone and all the screams and cries as Unicron is devouring their planet. With the score you just wouldn't have heard all of that, or not as clearly, so that was a revelation for me - and good work on that part. The other bit that I found slightly eerie was one of the deleted scenes. It was the one where Mirage has just shot Bombshell in the back as the City is transforming, with Mirage in the reclining section. As it's reclining Megatron blasts it with Mirage in and you hear Mirage yell. Quite a striking feature. As I've got older I have really struggled to come to terms with all the Autobot deaths in the movie, as well as the ones that were in the original storyboard and didn't make the final cut, that I learned about years later. This movie was a huge part of my childhood and I still get hairs standing on end and pains in the chest watching it, the Autobot deaths now move me in a way that they didn't as a child. But I still love the movie and well done on this video Rogers Stinson - top job. I love it.
Surely Mirage's yell is just added in from a sound effect, not recorded
AT the beginning on the moonbase there's a solid screencap/storyboard art, where you see the Autobot weapons system pointed at Cybertron.
Loved when Eject jumps off Perc to kick Frenzy and Rewind shots Ravage in the face as a kid.....still smiling at 48
Shame that there never was a special edition with the deleted scenes added to this classic movie.
ArtistStan is working on them right now
@@MisterR82 Nice
He would have my support as a fan
😆What I want to know is how Blaster was gonna finish his rhyme before Percepter popped up.
A glorified toy commercial from the 80’s that still has a better story than a lot of modern films
Except fot the death of Optimus prime this was a great story
Sounds like you don't watch a lotta good movies
@@mattmc9812 I mean, Megatrons death was also whack, but yes.
@@delinquenter at least Megatron got reformatted into Galvatron. So he never truly died. Prime had Megatron where he wanted he effectively had him dead to rights and then hotrod had to intevene and make prime refuse to shoot
The only Transformers Movie imo
I want to see a remaster with all the deleted scenes put in
This vexes me even more! All of my favorite characters were in the film, regardless if the were deleted, I would still liked to have seen them! Hate when hollywood chops up great movies!..smh
This just got a more terrifying feeling now
the great thing about seeing blaster was his even to make cassettes to even the odds against soundwave
"I felt a tremor in the force, as if a million voices cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced."
Did it sound anything like that, I wonder?
3:00 to 4:24
THAT WAS THE BEST OPENING MOVIE SEQUENCE I HAVE EVER
SEEN IN MY LIFE.
Also, I kinda feel like Instruments of destruction fit best in the attack of the FIRST shuttle in the movie... But who am I kidding if this is supposed to be the restoration for the movie, then... I won't complain. I like BOTH versions of this movie!
Kind of sad there’s no storyboards for the Battle of Autobot city from the original promo trailer with Delta Magnus.
5:00 lol this sfx was used for classic dr who on the Dalek ships
Someday hasbro will give nelson shin cut like the snyder cut.⭐👍
The one movie remake I would actually accept is an hypothetical one of this movie.
16:38
It was at this moment that Kickback knew, he f---ed up.
Autobot city turned out useless against Decepticons.
And Autobots failed to kill a single Decepticon in this movie.
In the original first writings of the movie, there were a lot of Decepticons that met their end during this battle. Including tons of generic decepticons
@@MisterR82 I really wished they shown more generic transformers fighting as it would've made the battle a bit more realistic considering EXTREMELY massive size of the city
To be honest, I kind of prefer the shuttle attack theme over instruments of destruction for the attack on shuttle scene. I don’t know, I just find it more suspenseful and gritty to go along with the dark theme of the film, than what the final cut had
I find Instruments way more gritty and dark, this theme just sounds like the rest of the film but it needs that alternate impact imo
I agree, although I wonder if it was the other way around, would I be saying the same thing. Sometimes when things are fresh, they just hit different. But yeah, hearing this new version makes it way more gritty, like you said.
They had to sell the music somehow.
Neat idea
Thanks!
Awesome
is it just me or the music is more in a epic sense?
It’s a bit if a Shane that Peter Cullen didn’t get too billing in the opening credits.
Whoa I can't say much of it but lost for words.
where did the alternative audio track come from with the instrumental score etc? ive never heard this before
I will never get why Prime calls Jazz over the computer/vid link, yet he is literally standing behind him. That and the fact Blaster and Perceptor stop to have a chat while the cassettes are going to at it tooth and nail.
This should’ve been remastered a long time ago.
I’d like to see Transformers G1/ Sailor Moon Crossover movie
Why?
@@SoundwaveDevastation since they were animated by the same animation studio
What screaming sound did Prowl make and where did you get it?
Kraniex
@@rogersstinson4019 Oh. Okay, thanks. 😉👍
oh my god i hear prowl screen 8:24
In the Japanese dub he really does scream.
Can you make a Playlist for this.
Where did you find the music that plays during the extended hot rod vs the constructions part
Seeing them all die still hurts
I always wondered where were the Aerial bots, Combatcons,Stunticons
They were created after the movie was already in production.
How did you get rid of the original score for the ''Dare/Hot Rod & Daniel scenes?
I didn’t, I just Denoised the voices.
Hope this is ok to ask too, but: Would you like to work together in finding people to doing a full-animating of your TFTM with storyboards here? I can't animate, but I can help find those who can.
Hope this is ok to say: My posts about where to go for the project keep getting deleted.
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could you possibly upload the scenes from 9:22 to 19:03 without the background music? It's the only scenes I can't get music free.
No sadly, I deleted them after the scenes were completed.
WHAT HAPPENED TO INSTRUMENTS OF DESTRUCTION AND DARE!?
I replaced the instruments of destruction with the demo version of attack on the shuttle, and replaced dare with the demo version of gone fishing.
@@rogersstinson4019 But those were the best parts of the movie! Wait, did you get a copyright strike?
@superdave If that's the case then... WOW, that is... Fuck, I don't know how to describe this. You know... I remember hearing something about Rock and roll adventure from the commercial. Also, I have Instruments of destruction on my MP3.
@@rogersstinson4019 Can you make a version of this with the final soundtrack, please?
@@JV-nm1fy I’ll see what I can you
This first scene with Unicron originally didn't have music
Did Mirage just die?👀
I have an animator who's interested in animating your storyboard-usage work. Please LMK if you'd be on board for something like this. :)
Hope this is OK to ask, Mr. Stinson, but: Would you ever consider animating your shown storyboards? There are people online who would do that for you.
I have another animator who's interested in animating your storyboards-usage work here. Please LMK if you'd like to work with us on this, and make it completely animated. :)
Sure, why not.
@@rogersstinson4019 How can we get this going?
Would you please join our group?
How can we reach each other?
What version of 'Dare' is that?
It’s an extension of the fishing song it’s in the photo form sessions search up.
2:21, now this woulda explained some of the Lithonians appearing in Rebirth with Zarak and his team.
For the intro from 3:00 - 4:09, I hope this helps. Voltron is here to help: ua-cam.com/video/sSjwZpXv3YA/v-deo.html
Don’t understand what you mean by “original version”
Optimus should have been. The one to have pulled the matrix
Unpopular opinion. I hated all the constant background music ehich drowned out everything else. Its non stop😂
12:53a.m. 10/22/2023
starscream is correct
they should have went to the Autobot moonbase.
😂 10:18 10:19
sorry but the occasional added story boards and that odd green blob thing in the intro kinda messed this up for me. Also, removing the iconic unicron medly throughout the first part also messed it up a little. Also why'd you remove the iconic pass through of the "The Movie" part of the title. you also added some music after the scene right before megatron wrecks things on the autobot ship. it didn't really belong. I watched as much as I could but the storyboards just popping up at so many random parts was super distracting for me. :( The added music that is nowhere on any of the TF movie soundtracks through me off a bit too. Not trying to destroy all the work you put in, but... I feel like maybe color the story boards or something? idk or...just don't put them in at all?
Ee. I was working with few resources I could find. I simply used what I could. Also, I reason I used the demo version of unicrons theme was because it just sounded better to me. Also also yes some of the music is not on soundtrack (2 of them from this to part 5 aren’t even from the movie’s production), but that’s because it’s actually from the protoform sessions by Vince DiCola. Also, it is called an extended cut for a reason ( no offense). Also, the green blob was actually a green star.
Ok so Starscream’s voice is really annoying. The problem with this movie is some of the voices sound like the people in charge just had some strangers off the street do it. I also hate Daniel. Anything with a kid just screws things up. Also if Spike is Married to Carly where is she in this movie. It would have been nice to see her play a bigger role. I must say the movie has some cool music and amazing animation. I love the dark tone. Even if they did kill off some characters I like that because it’s not going to always be a happy ending.
You might find this video on the Movie interesting: ua-cam.com/video/HgcX9kGUpDw/v-deo.html
Even mentions how Daniel first came about as the character wasn't originally going to be Spike's son.
As for Carly she likely wasn't in the movie as she was probably still on the drawing board as the first movie scripts were being written during Season 1 before she was introduced/created.