A GOOD NORTHSTAR!? 2008 Cadillac DTS
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- Yes that's right, a Cadillac with a NorthStar is one of my favorite cars. This is a new generation of NorthStar though, no longer riddled with head gasket failures like those before them. Truely a car of excellence and man... I want one...
My 2006 and 2008 DTSs were great cars. Drove each about 85,000 miles. The 2006 held up well in a helluva wreck; collapse panels worked well. The gap between the rear end of the left front quarter and the leading edge of the driver’s door remained true. By the time State Farm [finally] told me that the 2006 would be rebuilt I had already bought the 2008 Platinum DTS. Loved both cars; now in a 2019 CT6-V. What beautiful car. They’ll bury my as in a Caddy!🥰
2004+ northstars are actually very reliable engines. If you look up the headbolts on rock auto, that's the year they revamped the design. These are what you want to have for a cross country road trip. The last great American highway cruisers.
And if it’s not Northstar , the 3800 is a good engine too from what I have heard as well
@@SeanPennII
Oh the Buicks must of gotten them then. Thanks
@@42luke93 the Buick Lesabres are a poor mans Cadillac I love those cars and engines very smooth & plenty of power.
@@paulsosa1872 Smart man's Cadillac!
I’m looking to get a cadilac dts what year should I get that has the no longer has overheating and fixed design? @isrealballew4155?
I love my 07 DTS Performance edition! It has 135,000 and I bought it for $4k last year. I've had to put a little work into it but I really love the ride and interior. Being a Luxury III trim it has magnetic suspension, massaging seats, power rear seats, and sunshades in the back doors and rear window. Great cars, I hope you find one someday for you to enjoy. Love your videos man, keep on keepin on! -Clint
That DTS is SHARP! But to be fair, ALL the Northstars COULD be good... IF you got lucky enough to get one that the head bolts weren't overtorqued at assembly. A person had about a 1 in 10 chance of getting a good one. I totally lucked out. I have a '99 Deville w/ 192K that purrs like new. I love it. It has the Firestar Gold paint and absurdly comfortable gold leather seats.
Funny, a customer of mine got a 2008 DTS a couple mnths ago. They put tires on it pretty much immediately, and it developed a bad power steering pressure hose and a bad T fitting in the heater hose, both of which I replaced. The heater hose is a huge pain, but that's done and it no longer overheats. The power steering hose was comparitively easy, enough that I was able to do that one in the field despite spending 40 minutes underneath it due to a lack of space. But she runs great now that she's fixed. Super comfy, decent sounding engine.
Thanks for the ride! I recently bought a 2010 DTS, 50k miles, like new. I am happy happy joy joy
How much was the purchase price
I love these DTS Cadillacs so much. I currently own one. Mine is an 09 white with the tan interior. So anytime a youtuber brings one to the channel, they just make me smile. This black one looks in prestine condition. Thanks for showing this one.
I love love love my 2011 DTS, and mine has the bench seat
Great to see dad doing so well.
Yes! One of the last Cadillacs with the front split bench seating!
If I had a shot of jack&coke for everytime you compliment bench seats/column shifters, I'd be drunk.
Nice to see you, I Found a mower that has a column shift. now I'm looking for one. only issue is they offered floor shifters so it's not easy to find column shifters.
@@WizardMower
yeah I do stress it a lot. Disappointed I cannot buy a new sedan with that option. Nice to hear about the lawn mower. Waiting for the day someone does a modification on a golf cart and adds a column shifter.
Those were the last great old school Cadillacs. Cool to see one in great shape. Great vid Jay!
Always will love the look of these cars
AHH PROTOGEN!
Thank you for explaining the '05-'11 MY Deville/DTS improvements. I do own a '06 DTS and I love the car w/ 152k miles on it. As long as you keep up w/ maintenance they do go way into the 200k mile range, even 300k miles.
Love it! I have a blk on blk 09. DTS it has been one of the best cars I've owned going strong with 120,000 miles, never any mechanical problens.
God I love my '08 DTS Premium (black on black), upgraded from a 2015 Altima. I will not change a thing about my car, I'm keeping it all stock. She came with 106K and now at 120K, massage seats, 8 speaker bose system, moon roof, rear window shade etc, etc... I was fortunate to have stumbled upon this car at the right time. So far all I've swapped was the purge valve, rear fuse block and of course threw some Michelin's back on and replaced the rear driver door motor/regulator. I never wanna let her go. GREAT VIDEO!!!
Had an '08 DTS. 3 cons...drinks alot of premium gas, plastic parts breaking often.
Parts are a fortune.
Also had a '00 STS. Awesome 'till the head gasket went.
I do love DTS too!!!!!
Love the DTS and STS, as bad of an engine they might have I just love these cars.
As mentioned, they got really good after 05! You should check one out!
@@MXguy95 yes sir! Though I love the 98-04 sts the most, if I can afford it one day I definetly would pick one of these up.
@@Bobby-cm7vu get 02 and up.
@@Bobby-cm7vu Had a 2000 STS in pearl red with the black leather.. Loved it to death. Saved my life in a bad accident
@@billsgarage6453 my dad had a 98, he loved his to death as well, he would still have it today if the damned snow plow truck didn't total it.
My dad just recently sold a 2005 Deville with the 2nd generation 32V. It had 180,000 miles at time of sale. Unfortunately it had failing rear main seals and manifold head gaskets. The shop wanted 4,000$ to replace it. But my lord for the 4 years we got out of it. It was a land sofa and I loved it so much! My dad is currently looking for a Replacement, possibly a 2008-12 DTS.
This 2nd generation DTS was built in Detroit from 2006-2011. Last one rolled off the line May 27, 2011. With only 11,000 produced and built for the 2011 model year.
Such a classy-looking car. I have always loved these DTS
Me2
Me three. The exterior has aged really well, especially the finlike taillight treatment. Definitely a car that looks even better in person.
I like the old Cadillacs from the 80's myself
Those are some mighty machines!
Also a huge column shift fan right here. Had 2 p-71 crown vics now have a charger pursuit. All have/had the column shift just so satisfying!
I LOVE Cadillacs myself! Would love a CTS. This DTS is gorgeous too! 😍😍😍
For being an 08 she’s in great shape!
One of my dream cars lol. I love caddies.
I’m selling one, interested?
You’re never broke when you’ve got good friends and a good heart. Dude that car would be sweet for your grandparents! Maybe look up north for cars if you can, we have a lot of cars up here. Aren’t you my Age? 24? Man I’ve watched you’re stuff for 3 years. I hope you and the fam are doing well.
I got an 07 dts and it’s nice as hell and pretty reliable . I drive like damn Ricky Bobby and never have any problems
I was in 07. White tricoat, Column shift, sunroof and buckets. Love it. No issues. Grocery store runs are simple.
I love these I've had 2. Know what to look for. Front motor mount and water pump are NIGHTMARE jobs. It was the headbolts that were changed then the head gaskets were much better
I don't know about the different generations of the infamous Northstar engine but I know whatever generation they still hold the same reputation. I recently had a customer who had a 2009 XLR convertible with the North Star. It's what we call in South Florida a condo car. A condo car is a car owned by a senior citizen who not only put very few miles on their cars but usually keep them garage door under an overhang and have all the schedule maintenance done usually at the same dealership. This 2009 had just under 18K original miles and looked like it just came off the Cadillac showroom floor. As soon as any of the other wholesalers see that it has the infamous 4.6 Northstar they bolt like the car is about to explode. It was stunning to me to see that the book value of this car was almost identical to an Avalon of the same year with almost 200k miles on it especially considering the Cadillac cost almost three times as much brand new. It's a shame because I agree with Jay that they are stunning cars to look at with some of the most comfortable rides I've ever experienced but yikes can they be trouble!
When I was buying a car last Fall, after my ‘11 Civic crapped out, I was looking at a budget of $8k-$9k. I was seriously thinking about one of these-I absolutely love the design, especially with the screen and floor shifter, but I couldn’t do it. Not because of the engine, but the fuel economy. Sprung for a 2012 Lincoln MKZ Hybrid instead, and 36 MPG can’t be wrong, but sometimes I still wish I’d gone for the Caddy instead.
I absolutely love those 06-11 Cadillac DTS!! 2005 the last body style of the 00-05, has the revised Northstar as well! The 05 model is cheaper than the 06-11.
Agree I just bought one under a hundred thousand and in mint condition for 3500 one owner older couple had for the wife husband past with covid so she sold it and moved to Mexico 🇲🇽. Blows my mind it’s definitely a sweet ride
I feel the same way about the DTS and can afford one but have yet to find one that seemed to be a good fit. Must not be the only one... around here they go for crazy money with low miles and garage conditioned
Thank for the update on Northstars! i like when you bring up what is good about certain makes and models, and which ones to AVOID!!!
Especially avoid ones from the mid to late 90s.
Yes! 2004+ Northstar’s are a good buy. That’s when GM got it “right”. Base model DTS though, interesting. The next package up has heated and cooled front seats, heated steering wheel, front and back sensors, etc.
Fully loaded highway cruiser! Wont feel a thing underneath you and has plenty of pep in her step!
If he would've followed the Wizard's advice and avoided the Acadia, he could've been able to afford 2 or 3 DTSs by now. The GM 3.6 teaches folks the hard lessons in life. "Coulda had a Northstar."
I love the DTS I've been in the previous model to this a 2003 one it was ex footballers car drove like a magic carpet so smooth
Those were the ones that had headgasket failures over and over. Just imagine that but with no more overheating problems haha!
@@MXguy95 I know Shame really when they were running ok they were good but least the one you have is the better one of the 2
I’ve always liked the looks of most of the north stars
👍Nice Caddy! Lotta car right there. Loved my 1999 STS. It was loaded! My factory BOSE system was awesome too! Sold it at 66K miles for more than I paid. Great car and it would fly! Truly beautiful Cadillac! The head bolts were a fine thread and the fix was a course thread head bolt. Great engines after that, imo.
Cadillac....Simply a great car said ELVIS & I agree 😂😂😂👍✌️🇺🇸
Jay: Gooood morning boys and girls of the internet! And Dad.
Dad: *being caught off guard* Hey!
haha
"HE WASNT READY "lol
Love love love these, the STS to. Not a fun of there newer stuff though. I'd love to find a nice one.
We all reckon, your videos are top notch, that’s why we’re all here.
Well I appreciate that!
Yes my favorite Caddy this millennium. But the 60s caddys are my jam. Honorable mention to the Allanté.
I am a former Cadillac technician from the late nineties in California. Personally I love the North Star my son drives 06 DTS in our family ride is an 08 DTS. The North Star is a misunderstood work of art. The oil leaks actually kept my children from going to Community College.. we used to get 28 hours for a complete reseal at the dealer. I used to do them in the car once the transmission was out it was Bam Bam done. You're rolling if you are blessed with two of them on a pay period I love the North Star
What is the issue with the gas pedal and wiring and the code 0138?
What a beauty! Bought a STS and love it😮 but one day I’ll trade up to DTS with console shifter 😊
GM sent millions of loyal customers to Lincoln in the 80's in the 90's they went to Lexus in the 2000's BMW scooped up the leftovers of the Baby Boom and you really can't blame them for leaving!
Have a 06 cadillac dts...after we had record low temps in sc car is now running hot after about 15 minutes,,,no leaks,,no oil contamination,,,no smoke,,,did a combustion leak test and pressure test,,all neg,,,any ideas what im missing,,im 66 and always been a do it your self mechanic but this is my 1st dts,,136 k miles and never had a issue
I knew there had to be a trunk release on the dash because my 2009 Impala has one right next to the headlight switch
I looked right over it ! Same headlight switch as the impala too if im not mistaken
My last boss had one like this, very plush ride , the only issues they ever had was the transmission, Liked vid, Staysafe
Yup, sadly these do have some common weak points with the transmissions once they get up there in miles. I would take it in a heartbeat anyway though!
@@MXguy95 me too
I literally WAS yelling about the trunk button😂 I own an 06 so I’m like ITS RIGHT THERE😂lol
In the last year or so I been getting informed via UA-cam about this head bolt issue revision and I wish I’d known sooner because I love the style of these cars and been wanting one
I love that body style! And your right dam good motor! Sounds good and really runs out good too. Comfy as all hell. We have a customer at our body shop that has a pearl white one loaded with 20 some thousand miles. I always tell her call me if you ever sell this thing!
Gah I bet that pearl white is a sight in the sun! Cadillacs pearl is like no other.
Jay Smart oh it is like a diamond! It sure is lexus has a beautiful pearl too. I wish i could send you a pic jay, found the dealer sales and order sheet from my paps 76 cadillac cpe deville bought new has all the optioned he added so neat to see the costs and breakdown. I thought of you when i found it. Was such a cool find
Nice. I just picked mine up last month. 2011 DTS w/ 37k miles, one owner, & Florida driven never seen snow. It is pearl white as well. With a quarter top, sunroof, and Vogue Package. Extremely rare find! I’m absolutely in love with it. I looked for months before I found it. Good luck to you I hope you find one as well!
The colour combo is just perfect
Great video! Very Base model DTS but still a beautiful Caddy!
I would consider it because they ironed most of the bugs out by then. Then again I love my 4.9
Oh you cant compare it to the 4.9 thats cheating! LoL those 4.9s are bulletproof man. But the new NorthStar's are definitely competing now
@@MXguy95 144k miles on mine and still going strong pretty much. Needs a valve cover gasket and a water pump soon but I’m very happy. I’ve had my car now for about six months and 10,000 miles. It’s a 94 sedan Deville
oh bummer, have fun with that water pump job I loathe those. Did a few and am pleased to not have done another lol. But yea, those cars will run forever and youve got the good body on it too, 94 was smooth!
@@MXguy95 I got a buddy of mine who is willing to help me out with it
That’s a keeper! You will like it.
Hey guys check out Midwest Cadillac repair in Palatine, Illinois. They do Improvement repairs on Northstar engines with head gaskets& head studs and all engine reseals. And the do a stand up job with great pricing too.
Nice car! These were sold for a while in the UK but didn't do that well, wouldn't say no to one on my drive though 👍😁. Don't put the videos down Jay there all top notch not mediocre 👍
Thats a shame! people are really sleeping on these rigs ! Thanks buddy!
The car wizzard had a $4k fix for the earlier ones. He got a low mile one for his daughter for cheap with a blown head gasket stud. He fixed it and she has put a zillion miles wity no problem
Have a 2008 DTS, got it new. love it. Smooth ride, the Northstar can flat get that sedan moving. I'll keep this as long as possible. Get it detailed inside and out, including the engine well every year and adhere to the maintenance schedule without fail. Wish GM would stop with their small Cadillacs and E-vehicle nonsense. Nobody who enjoys Cadillac wants one of those. Cadillac brand is for winners and signifies you've made it.
I have a 2011 DTS and have never had a major issue with it.
The Steering Wheel and Dash layout is almost identical to a 2008 Buick Lucerne we owned. Good Old GM and their parts bins lol
The DTS and the Buick Lucerne are essentially the same car. Built in the same assembly plant in Detroit. The Lucerne is built off the same platform as the DTS. Also the Chevy impala as well....Great cars!!!
@@k.c.marshall921 Chevrolet Impala was a W car, like the mid-2000s Buick LaCrosse and Pontiac Grand Prix.
@@jeffshadow2407 It may be a "W" platform but they are still related.....especially after the 2006 redesign.
I had a choice between a 2011 Impala or a 2010 DTS and i went Impala because i stayed away from northstar. Everything in my Impala is the same as the DTS. Would i have chosen a Cadillac if i had known they fixed those issues. Of course. But i'm happy.
The Buick Lucerne is the same, consoles identical,frame is same length etc,,,most have the 3.8 or 3.9 (2009-11)…you can find the cxs one and they come with northstar too…they both were built in hamtramck,Michigan…if your scared of the northstar but want the big car and nice ride grab the Buick Lucerne 06-11…both these cars ended production in 2011.
It only took GM more than a decade to solve the head gasket issue
My local Cadillac dealer didnt even do the head gasket repairs. They just did a re manufactured GM crate engine swap
I am a fan of these 2008 Cadillac DTS large sedans, because they are fast and bulletproof, compared to these older ones. Can you do a video of a 2011 or 2012 Hyundai Santa Fe mid-size SUV with the 3.5 L V6 engine and the six-speed automatic transmission next? Thank you very much.
Not a bad looking Cadillac. Didn't mind this generation actually. In pretty good shape and surprisingly a good Northstar.
I just spent yesterday engine swapping mine. I love them sorry. To explain I bought a clean body(black on black) some idiot tried to seal the mid pan. And promptly locked it up. I then put my 245,000 mile engine in it. Lol
love your videos and reasoning - so pragmatic.
Ahh thank you !
One of the reason you see these with so many miles is the livery companies (executive transportation companies) used them and maintained them. Now your starting to see the Lincoln Continentals with 200k on them for the same reason.
I think mine was on of those. It only has 96k though but doing a car fax, it was a fleet vehicle. Might explain why it doesn't leak oil.
This is the best looking model of Cadillac ever made 😎
I had a 2011 DTS Platinum back in the day new. Got rid of it with 23k miles and it had already has a engine replaced under warranty. If I didn’t have the warranty it would’ve been a 12k bill from the dealer.
Wow 2011 and replacing a engine? The platinum trim level is the best so nice looking inside…thought the 06-11 northstars were much improved like this guy is saying..what happened?
I just love cadillacs don't care what it is
My Great Grandmother has one of these and they're nice!👍
Yes they are! She will get many years of good reliable use from it
@@MXguy95 Yeah! I'm pretty sure she's had it for about 10-12 years already!👍
Dont kick yourself so hard man, what youre doing for youre grandparents is fantastic. One day soon you will get youre Cadillac. And you deserve it! Great video.
I really appreciate the kinds words buddy! Thank you !
In typical GM fashion, they let an issue/problem fester year after year. I believe this head stud issue was "Fixed' for the 2006 model year- only about 15 years after Caddy introduced the Northstar. Reminds me of the oil drain back issue that kills the timing chains with the 3.6L junk engine (which a $5 PVC modification and changing the oil every 3500-4000 miles takes care of)
Not only GM you remember Audi and the rotary engines
@kennethfernstrom1297 that would've been NSU, whom Audi bought cheap due to the Wankel issue. Ironically, I've been in one in Germany (military kid). It was rare even there
Jay make another vid of the Oldsmobile.. That ride was cool.. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hey Jay good to see you buddy! These are lovely cars and that one looks in great condition 👌
Damn. I just bought a ‘10 DTS. Love it but I really wish It had that bench seat and column shifter😅
Im telling you, that Wide bench seat and that chrome gear shifter up on the column still feels more vintage luxury then any old floor shift ever will to me. Gotta have the column shift !
I have a 06 dts with 83000 and love it so far. Gotta love those tps sensors!
Every little potthole ding ding ding
Very good Cadillac! I own a 2008 DTS myself and besides the fuel guzzling condition, it’s AWESOME !
My 2008 Buick Lucerne Super had the 4.6 Northstar and routinely got 17 "Smiles" per gallon😉.
I guess you would sing
"Santa won't you bring me a Cadillac DTS,please bring it to me." As your Christmas Carol
Got 52k miles on my 08 love it! It's the Maroon color but needs a paint job 😔
Mine is maroon too, same year. Also needs a paint job lol. It is a 20 footer. Any closer you can see the swirls and chips. It is a shame because I love that color.
I love me a DTS as well as that Caddy smell!
Heard they fixed the North Star engines starting in 2005.5 and after
2004-ish, GM did kind of a rolling update to them that year, so probably best to just stick to any 2005 and newer in the front drive models... The rear drive 2004+ XLR and 2005+ STS used a revised version of the Northstar which are also a safe bet.
You can’t do a transmission service on a Northstar without removing the transmission. The filter is in the side cover. Changing the fluid will not help the unit last longer. New fluid still has to pass through a dirty filter.
Do these new and improved Northstars still leak out of every pore? I had a 2004 XLR and didn't have head gasket issues (it had
you,ve got a good heart Jay, hope you get your dts someday, good video, THANKS!
I was like it's right there the buttons right there lol then u said that we where screaming at ya
Those are nice cars.
I think so too!
I just bought a 06 ❤❤😎 got to change the pully and hope I'm safe far as the heads and over heating lol
I have a soft spot for the DTS.
Its a timeless car, and Cadillac nailed with this design. You can tell its a cadillac the minute to see it. From the taillights wheels. Its not easy to mistake. Man I want one
I’m not a big fan of the newer caddy’s. I had a 2008 CTS 4 with a 3.6 v6. That thing had so many issues with the trans/transfer case and had electrical problems. But your caddy is pretty damn clean for the year.
That was your problem pup, that old 3.6 is garbage. Same setup used in Acadias and tons of other GM nightmares of this era. But you should test drive a Newer DTS if you get the chance someday.. It just might surprise you!
@@MXguy95 I might do that
2005+ I pawmise you wont be disappointed. lol
@@MXguy95 I wish I could find a 4.9 caddy but there’s none around NY anymore
Nice car bud. Good job on the review
Glad you liked it! Thanks!
Jay. Love your videos always good to watch good job buddy
95% similar dash to my 2011 Buick Wildcat. Oh, yes, I converted three Lucernes into WILDCATS, with the proper emblems from 1968.
Lucerne’s get slept on but they are really nice. Especially the Super or CXS
The middle hidden seat /storage is where grand dad puts the 🔫🔫🔫🔫
Dylan McCool has a resent series bring a Mustang II Cobra back to life underrated car.
To get the yellow off the headlight plastic, easy fix. Get ya some off bug spray with deet. Spray it on wait a few seconds and rub it in a circle with an old rag. The lens will go perfectly clear. Might take a couple sprays. But always works for me.
That never seems to work well for me. It either doesnt change anything or it only last a few days. The other headlight looks so good I think we will just put one new one in it and call it a day
those are just sexy cars. Future classic.
So classy. Would love to drive one.
Its quite a ride!
I think that I saw one of these when the US president came to Buenos Aires back in 2016. It's a very American Car.
I have always liked these as well. I know the 2006 and 2007 had some oil leak issues. What would you say is the best year on the DTS? I’m gonna buy one