Love your videos ATK. I hope you do Striker in the future soon, your guides and comparing the two end game playstyles for each class has been super helpful.
just watched the bard video and this video and i just wanna say i really appreciate your class guide videos. i am in love with trying out as many classes as i can, and i think yo do an amazing explaining each class you go over. i hope you continue making these videos, and thanks for the great informative content
This makes me want to give soulfist a second chance. I love the no extra bs just straight to the point with reasons why or why not to go a certain way. Let’s you see the class from many angles
great explanation on the class. so lost trying to build this and this video was very helpful. the abilities part of video explain which ones to use. are they good all around or is it geared for single target combat?
What about the smaller Kameha wave? the 4th going from bottom up. What could i replace to grab it? like that one alot, and the Freeze/Piccolo beam too. (tempest blast i think)
can we enable white/blue boss indicator for bosses in na/eu version? or was that visual help only recently added to kr? want to see where the boss is facing, too...
One alternative build that isn't meta would be going with both class engravings and maxing spec. This is a bit more ideal while you're still gearing up and don't have 1500+ spec. Why would you do this? Because with Robust Spirit, you always have downtime where you feel useless. With RS 3 + EO 3, you will have 30% damage while in Hype, and 15% damage while you're in your downtime, but also have infinite energy. I think until you get to high tier Spec, this is the best way to play the Robust Spirit build.
Before very high spec, I recommand doing it, make the "out" of burst" that can last quite a while so much better. Even with 1200 spec, it's still a pretty long downtime
nice video bro ! i main soulfist too but i was wondering why no one is using both class engravings lv3 ? the number of both engravings seem nice but i dont know how exactly it works in aktion. can you explain it?
Helpful video, i prefer energy overflow as robust spirit has way too much down time with recovery mode and having to manage your energy its boring after you burst. Energy overflow i can literally just spam 24/7 and be fast af i love it. Robusts big numbers look nicer tho
Thank you for making this clear I’m a reformed console peasant This quiet the learning curve 🤣🤣 I know we don’t have destroyer yet But I’m waiting for you to do one 🙌🤝
Big fan of the videos and the streams ATK. Keep them coming! I have a question though. How does Robust soul fist get KBW viable at 1370? Precise dagger and 450 crit only gives you about 37% crit. Argos set would give 15%. Would they need to run Adrenaline 3 as well?
Hey Jimmy, i’m no ATK but played in jp server and main soulfist now. Argos set 5 gives you 25%, and i run precise dagger myself. Grudge3 KBW3, RS3 PD3 This gives me around 70% average when argos set is up as i have lost wind cliff as well.
SF will be one of "main" alt to my wardancer tho still I can't decide engraving xD. It seems like Robust is rly great for dmg... but Im kinda scared to miss this big dmg ball and face paced combat of Overflow seems funnier to play... hard decisions xD
@@lustboyo7 it’s worth it I do it, it’s actually Amazing damage you only need energy overflow at level 1 and robust spirit at level 3, if you look at Korean builds they do it and end game so don’t tell him it’s not worth it 😂
Do the atk buffs stack? I read somewhere that they don't stack even though they do appear on the buff bar. I haven't paid much attention to the damage differences with stacking the atk buffs and not stacking them.
Yes and no. The +6% party buff will stack with our other self buffs but if you try to say stack the ready attack buff from pulverizing palm with the ready attack buff from energy release they won't stack.
In a recent video, you showed a list of 2 max engravings you recommend for each class in preparation to Argos. In it, you recommended energy overflow soulfist with grudge. In this video, you recommend Robust Spirit for newbies. I'm kinda confused. Was the energy overflow lvl3 a way of saying max your class engraving?
I really like his videos, but sometimes i get confused, on another video he recommends Crit and Swift for a Death Strike Sharpshooter, but it doesnt make sense, everyone else recommends Crit and Spec for that build. Im kinda lost.
Just try both and feel it yourself. I started off with Robust, but I hate the down time so much. Now, I'm all in with Energy Overflow. No more useless down time. It's all subjective. You either like one of the class engraving, or soulfist might not be the class for you. And that's ok. Other class can be as fun, and the game encourage you to make alts anyway. Have fun.
@@ramsilpolo3931 You should be running Crit and Spec for mono Death Strike, but Sharpshooter can run both class engravings at the same time which then moves the priority to Crit, Spec and Swiftness together.
I think you wrong about robust spirit is recommanded to newbies, there is burst phase and slow phase when hype mode cd, when you are on slow phase you have to pay attention to not down your energy to 0, you also need a lot of spec to make the engraving shine so not before t3 While energy overflow "eo" is easier when you don't care of where your energy is, except you have to keep it low, you just have to spam your skills with all 3 hype mode This is overall what I think and I skipped some topic. Also thank you for your video, it will help players to understand this class and I hope to see more soulfist, I enjoyed it
Hi! I was following a similar guide to this one but I liked how you explained it a lot better :D I have a question, I'm going for the robust spirit build and was wondering which counter skills is better to take - bolting crash or lightning palm? I'm working my way up to t3 but I already wanna get used to the endgame skills :P
I main Soulfist and I really think that Energy Overflow is much more forgiving for these reasons : High cdr, big big uptime (Hype 2 + 3), shorter animation locks (looking at you Merciless Plummel), higher movespeed and also very important less reliable on your ultimate. Robust Spirit is extremely punishing, you have 20 sec to do the job, Energy Release buff only lasts for 6 and if you mess up you're doomed. Going Energy Overflow allows you not only to get the cleanse from Energy Release much more, it makes you very smooth and nimble, and because your spells come off cooldowns so fast you can sometimes get another chance that you will enver get with Robust Spirit. However, if you hit your ult on Robust Spirit you get a big part of the job done in one go. I started by playing Robust Spirit (and that's what I'm going for even now, at 1345 ilvl), and the learning curve is really really hard, you feel like a sitting duck when you get interrupted during your combo, every buff runs out and you're like "oh well, I'm just gonna wait until my Hype comes back and try again". If I had to do it again I would go instantly in Energy Overflow without any hesitation as a beginner. edit (I forgot to mention) : Robust Spirit can run out of energy when not in hype and you're left with only auto attacks ! Be careful ! Maybe this perspective changes in 1400+ content though, haven't experienced it so I can't tell
the breaking point is when your spec stat gets past 1600, the recovery state suddenly doesn't seem so long anymore, and robust spirit becomes the much more forgiving engraving. Also energy overflow's real difficulty really arrives once you get to legion raids. Where there are going to be entire periods of time where you can't be dps-ing at all, and short periods of time where you have to pour your soul into attacking. Supports are obviously going to be putting all their buffs into that short time frame, but if you managed your hype a little wrong, oops your dps is going to be in the gutter.
@@user-sh3fl3zf1r I guess that makes sense, having a very long recovery because no spec makes the timing hard and if the burst window is short no matter what indeed Robust Spirit looks easier to pull off at this level
yeah I guess depends on the encounter/raids you’re facing against. Robust Spirit has one of highest dps when the given time is short - it’s a you had one job engraving. but could feel bad due to low spec/swiftness.
i made my soulfit as my first alt and it ended up as me fifth alt and the least i like to play. nothing wrong with the class in itself, but they sell soulfist to be a martial art master that focuses in soul energy almost like a super sayan or a chinese cultivation light novel, and all the skills that are basically like that sucks in the optimal endgame rotation, making the class feel souless and clunky. i'm having a rly good time with scrapper, artilerist and sharpshooter as alts tho, they are what they were sold to be in any content of the game
may i know for heavenly squash, is there any way we can do in setting so that we can instantly cast at where the mouse is? Coz i found it not so smooth when i am doing the combo...
I want to make an alt within the martial artist class, but im torn between scrapper, striker and Soulfist I main berserker and was looking for a class not too Glass Cannon, and im "kind of" a meta guy, so which one would be the best one regarding pve? What about PvP? Thanks!
None of those are close to glass cannon and they’re all kind of in meta. Scrappers been popping off in kr server recently. Striker and Soulfist are doing fine but they’re in between meta and off meta. Definitely all viable and good enough to pop on
How come EO doesnt use spec/switftness? It seems like you could get enough crit in other ways to make a lower cd on hype 3 worth it no? Hype is the most confusing aspect of this class for EO and transitioning from 2-3.
Is there a reason why ur attack speed is so fast without hype mode if u don’t even prioritize for swiftness for robust build caz mine attack speed is no where near ur speed even at tier 3 lvl1340.
Is there a reason why high end Soulfist don't use Energy Blast in their raid builds? I have it on mine but I don't know what I'm doing and I thought it was good because it has high stagger and lots of a damage. Please guide me!
The harder the fight is, the less opportunity for you to stay in one place to cast a long skill. So people replace it with other skills that are always viable when it go off cooldown. Energy Blast is indeed had very high stagger dmg, if there's a slow fight with high stagger check, I think it could be viable replacing Tempest Blast/Force Orb/Shadow Breaker.
1385 soulfist here. What do you think about using robust spirit lvl 3 with energy overflow lvl 1? there's no downsides to the robust spirit play and u get infinite energy during downtimes just for a lvl 1 engraving i find incredibly useful for soulfist. I find this better until we can really get higher specialization (near 1800) as the downtime will then be so short it won't be as useful.
Thank you ATK! Not playing her but knowing about all classes is really valuable. Why her being reliant on spec/swiftness instead of crit makes the build expensive?
It could be more expensive because those stats can’t be altered (especially spec in robust spirit builds) for example you can put spec lower for higher crit/swift with other classes but can’t do the same with her
I wanted to pay soulfist but then people kept saying she doesn't do any damage until you use the awakening skill and that doesn't seem fun to me. Your damage seem good but I don't have any class on that level to compare it to. Is any of what people say true in end game?
Soulfist sucks. I made it my main and put it 1340. You relly 100% on your spirit bomb to do damage and it's so easy to miss. It's stressful and even when you hit, you get outdamaged by other classes like Berserker, deathblade, etc, and they don't have a stressful playstyle like this. Not worth by any means
@@AYRbROthor I have heard 2022 should be the year of rebalance and I love how Soulfist plays but I would like more focus on her normal abilities than only the awakening skill so let's hope they change her for three better. She seems to be at the bottom of the popularity list they showed and if they truly look at statistics than they'll do something about her lack of damage. :)
@@Chnumpen oh man... it would be so nice! I'm rushing a bard to be my new main right now (got 1100 yesterday), but I would gladly get back on soulfist with a fair rebalance
@@AYRbROthor It really doesn’t. It just has martial artist syndrome; none of them aside from lance master are good until 1370+. Soulfist requires high stats to be efficient
So nothing really new for me, but good "fine print"! I already play as advised for the most part... but never get MVP (srsly... never)... I guess i just suck :( Good video!
When I check the Korean armory website I see almost all of the energy overflow users having the class engraving at only level 1. Is this an endgame choice when more level 3 engravings are available?
So the lvl 3 engraving gives 15% damage boost, while lvl 1 gives 5% boost. This difference is basically not big enough warrant the playstyle of energy dumping. What they are doing is taking engravings that give comparable damage boost, ignoring the whole below 30% energy damage boost gimmic and using the engraving to allow them to spam skills without getiting energy capped (and the 5% damage boos when it kicks in is nice). Basically just simplifies the playstile a bit and removes a large part of the setup.
definitely isnt weak but certainly isnt like a top tier dps in the game. Id rate it average and amazing for meeting stagger checks. I generally always get stagger or 2nd highest damage though rarely ever first.
I actually hate how the way buffs work, I feel like dmg should be calculated when you cast, not when the skill lands, makes no sense, if you have dmg buffs and you release a giant ball of energy, the buff is active, therefore the energy ball has more energy in it, it doesnt suddenly lose energy just because buffs wear off, but mechanic wise thats how it works. I also hate how when your out and about just doing open world stuff, Robust build feels garage, and overflow feels way better, but I prefer robust build, so now I gotta make 2 builds, one for bossing, one for open world, and its annoying. That being said, my soulfist is t3, and I still like how it plays so I aint changing but I really hope that with the balance changes coming to KR this year, soulfist will have some QoL buffs and maybe better visual effects (like skills having yellow, orange, pink energy added to the actual skill itself based on ur hype level, its weird how everything looks the same in every form and to have the buff be numbers only.)
made a soulfist and its gonna get deleted until all my other alts hit t3 sadly i dont like the energy management and all that other stuff that comes on top but it looks cool atleast
I was thinking about using my second power pass on Artillerist, but if I can play Soulfist ignoring that the spirit bomb exists, I may consider playing her, and even boost her instead of the Artillerist.
i prefer venomous fist instead of the orbs, i can spam that 24/7 due to low cd and chi, plus it has poison tripod and you can put bleed rune :D tbh that skill gives lots of dps
atk buffs don't stack, so energy release is pretty useless in nearly all of her builds. even more so in a swiftness build that gets palm cd low enough to keep it up nearly 100% of the time. nearly all builds will take palm and get the atk boost, so the actual increase energy release provides isn't 40%, it's only 40 - 25 = 15 over what palm already provides (12% increase in overall damage at the cost a entire level 10 skill). that's not very much when you consider you could get another high damage skill instead. the cleanse can be nice but you would be using it for dps so you are unlikely to be saving it when it's actually needed. however you might as well just stop at level 7 then and put the points into another damage skill. only real use of energy release is to buff world decimation because the other two don't last long enough. energy release isn't worth the skill points it takes to get it to 10. yes this includes it's only REAL use case, buffing world decimation...as you could just get another equal dps skill to world decimation (of which she has a ton to pick from) and do 100% of world decimation damage, instead of only 40%. decimation ray can use any of her buffs (flash step being one that you need swiftness to get all hits within the damage window) but palm is better because it lasts the full duration without any swiftness. yes world decimation does do ~25-30% more damage over decimation ray but you sit there for so long casting world decimation and attack/cast speed does nothing to speed it up. on the other hand attack speed does speed up decimation ray. in the end you get the same damage out of the skill thanks to palm but you can do it MUCH faster and if the enemy jumps back, you will still be likely to hit them or at least get half of it off before they decide to fuck you over and move. swiftness is a pretty good stat tho, at least on her as it stacks additively with her hype CDR. however gems don't stack additively (far as my testing goes anyway). this means it's VERY hard to get energy releases CD low enough to keep it up constantly. thus again is why palm is good enough as you don't even need a CDR gem but if you do it makes it less stressful. not saying you can't build/play that way, it's just not the most optimal.
I am sorry but the recommendation for Robust and Energy is false. Robust is harder to manage and not good in early game since it relies hard on spec, you wont have your identitiy as often and feel awful to play. Energy Overflow is easier in early game because your ki cant run out and its easier for you to dps in a boss fight since you dont need to know the mechanics as much to see your window to activate 3 to deal dmg. The only ''hard thing to do is spam your skills to be below 30%'', thats why you're not allowed to go into KI stage 3, since its not possible to be below 30% Energy in that stage. Also, Robust is more peak damage, Energy Overflow is more conistent damage if you're a newer player, but a good Soulfist easily outdamages with Robust Spirit.(Speaking in beginning of T3) Also, your stagger is not that good. In your Guardian Raid build are gonna be 2x low stagger and 1x mid stagger, you'd have to change your build if you need more stagger, which is fine, but which leads you to lose tons of dps
i totally agree on the stagger part... many of her useful skills just dun offer stagger or weak attack ... / i always feel so nervous when there are plenty of stagger check... may i know which skills would you take out and get a replacement?
God I fucking hate this class. It’s feels awful awful! Tiers 1-2 still playing cause I put so many resources into it. Just got t3 probably gonna feel awful till super late
same... i was thinking of changing my main... her Tier1-2 phrase really disappoints me with RS build :( but i have already put so many resources on her ...
@@ininderGG it’s a high skill ceiling and skill floor, I’ve been like focusing hard on macro and learning bosses, and timings cds it helps a lot, the problem is it’s so much WORK! It gets better make sure to spec in specialization. We need the hype cd
Recommending Grudge? Really? No, unless you know the mechanics of the fight inside and out, Grudge should never factor in your build for a new-intermediate player. Tired of seeing it and even more more tired to people dying with it.
I genuinely don't understand why anyone would recommend Cursed Doll and/or Grudge in the first 3 engravings ... Like bruh, do you seriously have no other engraving to use aside from these two ? Precise Dagger ? Adrenaline ? Awakening ? Master of Ambush (Ambush Master) ? I see too many morons following guides like these to the letter while having no understanding of the game, its mechanics or combat, be it general or for bosses, and they are nearly all of them focusing so much on Grudge & Cursed Doll that it hurts my soul ...
Honestly if I saw a DPS run Heavy Armor I would take them over DPS's running Cursed and/or Grudge. The amount of death and failed runs is not worth taking some who is squishy - especially a random. A dead DPS has no DPS.
Great guide that is too the point and not overly long, I hope you make these for every class eventually!
I really love your videos, and especially these that shows classes :) Hope to see wardancer in the future!
Thanks for your videos
I made a soulfist alt 20 minutes before you uploaded this lol. Super helpful and amazing timing
Love your videos ATK. I hope you do Striker in the future soon, your guides and comparing the two end game playstyles for each class has been super helpful.
Up for striker 😊
just watched the bard video and this video and i just wanna say i really appreciate your class guide videos. i am in love with trying out as many classes as i can, and i think yo do an amazing explaining each class you go over. i hope you continue making these videos, and thanks for the great informative content
Great guide man! Really help improving my SF gameplay. Would love to see a WarDancer next ^^
This makes me want to give soulfist a second chance. I love the no extra bs just straight to the point with reasons why or why not to go a certain way. Let’s you see the class from many angles
Looking forward to this. Hated playing Soulfist so far so I’m hoping this’ll provide some perspective for me
Would be nice to get Soulfist in one of your "Class interview" type of videos, for more in-depth knowledge.
Yes!!
Yes plesase :)
yes
We need it
Thanks for the video. Hope to see your guide on upcoming Destroyer and Arcana soon :)
great explanation on the class. so lost trying to build this and this video was very helpful. the abilities part of video explain which ones to use. are they good all around or is it geared for single target combat?
I watched all ur video, really useful and straight to the point, would like to ask if u will be doing a video about wardancer, thank youuu
Thanks for this guide!
I ask, the man delivers. Dope!
Best guide videos you are best atk, ty!
Great video man! Any chance of a Scrapper version of this?
Was literally thinking of making one as an alt, thanks for the green light
Love your videos man, could you please make a Bard guide, talking about Tower and Raid?
What about the smaller Kameha wave?
the 4th going from bottom up.
What could i replace to grab it? like that one alot, and the Freeze/Piccolo beam too. (tempest blast i think)
As someone who rolled a soulfist alt because it looked dope, this is very appreciated! Had no idea what I was doing lol
Thankyou for video bro!
Im wondering if keen blunt weapons + precise dagger is a good combo for robust soulfist?
can we enable white/blue boss indicator for bosses in na/eu version? or was that visual help only recently added to kr? want to see where the boss is facing, too...
One alternative build that isn't meta would be going with both class engravings and maxing spec. This is a bit more ideal while you're still gearing up and don't have 1500+ spec. Why would you do this? Because with Robust Spirit, you always have downtime where you feel useless. With RS 3 + EO 3, you will have 30% damage while in Hype, and 15% damage while you're in your downtime, but also have infinite energy. I think until you get to high tier Spec, this is the best way to play the Robust Spirit build.
Before very high spec, I recommand doing it, make the "out" of burst" that can last quite a while so much better.
Even with 1200 spec, it's still a pretty long downtime
So you mean to play both class engravings is strong?
@@Jeiidiieontwitch It's not strong, but it feel good until you can get tons of spec with bracers.
@@Jeiidiieontwitch it's just smoother gameplay. You could ditch RS for another engraving and run an EO build as well.
running EO 1 instead of 3 would be better i guess
nice video bro ! i main soulfist too but i was wondering why no one is using both class engravings lv3 ? the number of both engravings seem nice but i dont know how exactly it works in aktion. can you explain it?
I find your cool videos very useful , I am searching a scrapper description if you can please whenever you can.
Helpful video, i prefer energy overflow as robust spirit has way too much down time with recovery mode and having to manage your energy its boring after you burst. Energy overflow i can literally just spam 24/7 and be fast af i love it. Robusts big numbers look nicer tho
exactly what i needed know KEKW it’s like YT and you knew exactly the timing dafuq it’s scary
I have questions, what engraving for illv 1370 robus spirit build ty
How long is recovery mode for each hype 1 2 and 3? Most guides online does not state
Love this.
Thank you for making this clear
I’m a reformed console peasant
This quiet the learning curve 🤣🤣
I know we don’t have destroyer yet
But I’m waiting for you to do one 🙌🤝
Hello ATK, are there any mid tier engravings you recommend holding on to, as most of the purple books for 1 gold a piece.
i never bothered to sell them and they're gathering dust
Big fan of the videos and the streams ATK. Keep them coming! I have a question though.
How does Robust soul fist get KBW viable at 1370? Precise dagger and 450 crit only gives you about 37% crit. Argos set would give 15%. Would they need to run Adrenaline 3 as well?
Hey Jimmy, i’m no ATK but played in jp server and main soulfist now. Argos set 5 gives you 25%, and i run precise dagger myself.
Grudge3
KBW3,
RS3
PD3
This gives me around 70% average when argos set is up as i have lost wind cliff as well.
SF will be one of "main" alt to my wardancer tho still I can't decide engraving xD. It seems like Robust is rly great for dmg... but Im kinda scared to miss this big dmg ball and face paced combat of Overflow seems funnier to play... hard decisions xD
Its hard to keep my spirit low. I need to keep working on it. Thanks for this video.
your thoughts on using both class engravings at the same time? Thinking about robust energy 3, and energy overflow 1
You can’t use both class engravings at the same time. Technically you could but not worth at all
@@lustboyo7 it’s worth it I do it, it’s actually Amazing damage you only need energy overflow at level 1 and robust spirit at level 3, if you look at Korean builds they do it and end game so don’t tell him it’s not worth it 😂
How do you decide which skills to use on the hotbar? I notice you have more than 8.
Wouldnt using Energy and Robust spirit be perfect?
Do the atk buffs stack? I read somewhere that they don't stack even though they do appear on the buff bar. I haven't paid much attention to the damage differences with stacking the atk buffs and not stacking them.
No, they don't stack and only the highest buff of the same type (atk power, crit, atk speed, etc.) from ur own character will apply.
Nice vid! Do a Paladin one :D
Love your videos sir! Please do battlemaster
hey ATK i love your content but cant can you make a guide about wardancer :)
Hi mate great video thx! One question about SF: does her dmg buff stacks? I was under the assumption they didnt stack
Yes and no. The +6% party buff will stack with our other self buffs but if you try to say stack the ready attack buff from pulverizing palm with the ready attack buff from energy release they won't stack.
@@TheDragoon989 ahh this is why people use that pre spirit bomb. It lasts 10 sec so you pop that then hype into energy release then bomb.. interesting
In a recent video, you showed a list of 2 max engravings you recommend for each class in preparation to Argos. In it, you recommended energy overflow soulfist with grudge. In this video, you recommend Robust Spirit for newbies. I'm kinda confused. Was the energy overflow lvl3 a way of saying max your class engraving?
I really like his videos, but sometimes i get confused, on another video he recommends Crit and Swift for a Death Strike Sharpshooter, but it doesnt make sense, everyone else recommends Crit and Spec for that build. Im kinda lost.
Just try both and feel it yourself.
I started off with Robust, but I hate the down time so much.
Now, I'm all in with Energy Overflow.
No more useless down time.
It's all subjective.
You either like one of the class engraving, or soulfist might not be the class for you.
And that's ok. Other class can be as fun, and the game encourage you to make alts anyway.
Have fun.
I believe the list has been updated
@@ramsilpolo3931 You should be running Crit and Spec for mono Death Strike, but Sharpshooter can run both class engravings at the same time which then moves the priority to Crit, Spec and Swiftness together.
@@Hifrombuddha you prolly shouldn't even bother about mixing two class engravings unless you are late into t3
for energy overflow is level 1 good enough or do i need to go for level 3? and is there any significant difference between lvl 1 and lvl 3?
Energy Overflow 1 is fine but 3 is better. It depends on what you get instead
I think you wrong about robust spirit is recommanded to newbies, there is burst phase and slow phase when hype mode cd, when you are on slow phase you have to pay attention to not down your energy to 0, you also need a lot of spec to make the engraving shine so not before t3
While energy overflow "eo" is easier when you don't care of where your energy is, except you have to keep it low, you just have to spam your skills with all 3 hype mode
This is overall what I think and I skipped some topic.
Also thank you for your video, it will help players to understand this class and I hope to see more soulfist, I enjoyed it
Can u make a wardancer guide please?
I agree with other, great content with only useful info. No chitchat. Like Shao Khan would say, well done! ^^
Can you do wardancer/battlemaster next please?
i''ve been playing soulfist into argos and it's quiet challenging compared to sorc and scrapper
I dont understand why noone using Energy Blast as a skill , isnt that the skill with the higher damage?
Hi! I was following a similar guide to this one but I liked how you explained it a lot better :D
I have a question, I'm going for the robust spirit build and was wondering which counter skills is better to take - bolting crash or lightning palm? I'm working my way up to t3 but I already wanna get used to the endgame skills :P
Bolting crash is the best IMO, it comes with party synergy for better team dps.
Is this after this patch? Is this build still relevant
I main Soulfist and I really think that Energy Overflow is much more forgiving for these reasons : High cdr, big big uptime (Hype 2 + 3), shorter animation locks (looking at you Merciless Plummel), higher movespeed and also very important less reliable on your ultimate. Robust Spirit is extremely punishing, you have 20 sec to do the job, Energy Release buff only lasts for 6 and if you mess up you're doomed. Going Energy Overflow allows you not only to get the cleanse from Energy Release much more, it makes you very smooth and nimble, and because your spells come off cooldowns so fast you can sometimes get another chance that you will enver get with Robust Spirit. However, if you hit your ult on Robust Spirit you get a big part of the job done in one go.
I started by playing Robust Spirit (and that's what I'm going for even now, at 1345 ilvl), and the learning curve is really really hard, you feel like a sitting duck when you get interrupted during your combo, every buff runs out and you're like "oh well, I'm just gonna wait until my Hype comes back and try again". If I had to do it again I would go instantly in Energy Overflow without any hesitation as a beginner.
edit (I forgot to mention) : Robust Spirit can run out of energy when not in hype and you're left with only auto attacks ! Be careful !
Maybe this perspective changes in 1400+ content though, haven't experienced it so I can't tell
I feel the same way, wouldn't recomment robust spirit to newbies, unless you wanna feel like a wet noodle.
the breaking point is when your spec stat gets past 1600, the recovery state suddenly doesn't seem so long anymore, and robust spirit becomes the much more forgiving engraving.
Also energy overflow's real difficulty really arrives once you get to legion raids. Where there are going to be entire periods of time where you can't be dps-ing at all, and short periods of time where you have to pour your soul into attacking. Supports are obviously going to be putting all their buffs into that short time frame, but if you managed your hype a little wrong, oops your dps is going to be in the gutter.
@@user-sh3fl3zf1r I guess that makes sense, having a very long recovery because no spec makes the timing hard and if the burst window is short no matter what indeed Robust Spirit looks easier to pull off at this level
@@Abyzdecannes to be fair, valtan and vykas have long attack periods, unless everyone is overspec'ed, but kakul-saton? you gotta be hittin and runnin
yeah I guess depends on the encounter/raids you’re facing against. Robust Spirit has one of highest dps when the given time is short - it’s a you had one job engraving. but could feel bad due to low spec/swiftness.
i made my soulfit as my first alt and it ended up as me fifth alt and the least i like to play. nothing wrong with the class in itself, but they sell soulfist to be a martial art master that focuses in soul energy almost like a super sayan or a chinese cultivation light novel, and all the skills that are basically like that sucks in the optimal endgame rotation, making the class feel souless and clunky. i'm having a rly good time with scrapper, artilerist and sharpshooter as alts tho, they are what they were sold to be in any content of the game
Hi a question, is there a way to turn that back attack indicator on or is it only viable in kr
It's not in the west yet, hopefully it will come soon.
can you do interview for valtan series on overflow soulfist
is this a build for raid and chaos?
may i know for heavenly squash, is there any way we can do in setting so that we can instantly cast at where the mouse is?
Coz i found it not so smooth when i am doing the combo...
I dont think you can do quick cast here, wither clikc or press skill twice
@@NATK oh ya press skill twice did work , it gets smoother that way , thank you !
I want to make an alt within the martial artist class, but im torn between scrapper, striker and Soulfist
I main berserker and was looking for a class not too Glass Cannon, and im "kind of" a meta guy, so which one would be the best one regarding pve?
What about PvP?
Thanks!
None of those are close to glass cannon and they’re all kind of in meta. Scrappers been popping off in kr server recently. Striker and Soulfist are doing fine but they’re in between meta and off meta. Definitely all viable and good enough to pop on
@@lustboyo7 scrappers are being used with the Taijutsu or Shock Build? Which would be better?
@@HeusthamFS It depends on playstyle tbh, both viable
Energy overflow is so fun that it made me swap mains with my 1490 surge blade lol
You said “if you go remaining energy” instead of robust energy at 2:12 and confused me 😂
he's playing deathblade
Soulfist main checking in
How come EO doesnt use spec/switftness? It seems like you could get enough crit in other ways to make a lower cd on hype 3 worth it no? Hype is the most confusing aspect of this class for EO and transitioning from 2-3.
One step closer to the striker guide
Is there a reason why ur attack speed is so fast without hype mode if u don’t even prioritize for swiftness for robust build caz mine attack speed is no where near ur speed even at tier 3 lvl1340.
Is there a reason why high end Soulfist don't use Energy Blast in their raid builds? I have it on mine but I don't know what I'm doing and I thought it was good because it has high stagger and lots of a damage. Please guide me!
I think its because the spirit bombs do more damage overall
The harder the fight is, the less opportunity for you to stay in one place to cast a long skill. So people replace it with other skills that are always viable when it go off cooldown. Energy Blast is indeed had very high stagger dmg, if there's a slow fight with high stagger check, I think it could be viable replacing Tempest Blast/Force Orb/Shadow Breaker.
Striker next!!
Dear ATK-nim, do you also plan to make a Scrapper video?
Yes its coming soon
1385 soulfist here. What do you think about using robust spirit lvl 3 with energy overflow lvl 1? there's no downsides to the robust spirit play and u get infinite energy during downtimes just for a lvl 1 engraving i find incredibly useful for soulfist. I find this better until we can really get higher specialization (near 1800) as the downtime will then be so short it won't be as useful.
i was thinking of this as well, did you go with higher spec and decent amount of swiftness or crit?
Thank you ATK! Not playing her but knowing about all classes is really valuable. Why her being reliant on spec/swiftness instead of crit makes the build expensive?
I could be wrong but I think it's because more classes use spec/swiftness in their builds than crit. Some class engravings give tons of crit chance
It could be more expensive because those stats can’t be altered (especially spec in robust spirit builds) for example you can put spec lower for higher crit/swift with other classes but can’t do the same with her
I might try soulfist after the new buffs and changes from the ptr are released.
I don’t think it’s a buff at all. To me it seems like they just want that class to provide utilities.
If every class got buffed and the OP class got nerfed and soulfist stays the same its a huge nerf
We want a interview uwu
I wanted to pay soulfist but then people kept saying she doesn't do any damage until you use the awakening skill and that doesn't seem fun to me. Your damage seem good but I don't have any class on that level to compare it to.
Is any of what people say true in end game?
Soulfist sucks. I made it my main and put it 1340.
You relly 100% on your spirit bomb to do damage and it's so easy to miss.
It's stressful and even when you hit, you get outdamaged by other classes like Berserker, deathblade, etc, and they don't have a stressful playstyle like this.
Not worth by any means
@@AYRbROthor I have heard 2022 should be the year of rebalance and I love how Soulfist plays but I would like more focus on her normal abilities than only the awakening skill so let's hope they change her for three better. She seems to be at the bottom of the popularity list they showed and if they truly look at statistics than they'll do something about her lack of damage. :)
@@Chnumpen oh man... it would be so nice! I'm rushing a bard to be my new main right now (got 1100 yesterday), but I would gladly get back on soulfist with a fair rebalance
@@AYRbROthor It really doesn’t. It just has martial artist syndrome; none of them aside from lance master are good until 1370+.
Soulfist requires high stats to be efficient
Soul fist guide holy shit
So nothing really new for me, but good "fine print"!
I already play as advised for the most part... but never get MVP (srsly... never)... I guess i just suck :(
Good video!
O wow, did not know Spec increases recovery time.
When I check the Korean armory website I see almost all of the energy overflow users having the class engraving at only level 1. Is this an endgame choice when more level 3 engravings are available?
So the lvl 3 engraving gives 15% damage boost, while lvl 1 gives 5% boost. This difference is basically not big enough warrant the playstyle of energy dumping.
What they are doing is taking engravings that give comparable damage boost, ignoring the whole below 30% energy damage boost gimmic and using the engraving to allow them to spam skills without getiting energy capped (and the 5% damage boos when it kicks in is nice). Basically just simplifies the playstile a bit and removes a large part of the setup.
where you can check this ?
ty for actually explaining soulfist beyond "it has a spirit bomb it sucks if you miss the spirit bomb"
i agree, it also sucks if it doesnt crit :)
Been waiting ages for this one. Soulfist feels weak and idk if im playing it wrong or cause it's in t2 haha
You might doing it wrong but Soulfist definitely spikes later than other classes like Wardancer so that might be it
It is weak compared to mage or berserker
definitely isnt weak but certainly isnt like a top tier dps in the game. Id rate it average and amazing for meeting stagger checks. I generally always get stagger or 2nd highest damage though rarely ever first.
When he says hype mode. What he really means is Super Saiyan... just say it bro.
I actually hate how the way buffs work, I feel like dmg should be calculated when you cast, not when the skill lands, makes no sense, if you have dmg buffs and you release a giant ball of energy, the buff is active, therefore the energy ball has more energy in it, it doesnt suddenly lose energy just because buffs wear off, but mechanic wise thats how it works. I also hate how when your out and about just doing open world stuff, Robust build feels garage, and overflow feels way better, but I prefer robust build, so now I gotta make 2 builds, one for bossing, one for open world, and its annoying. That being said, my soulfist is t3, and I still like how it plays so I aint changing but I really hope that with the balance changes coming to KR this year, soulfist will have some QoL buffs and maybe better visual effects (like skills having yellow, orange, pink energy added to the actual skill itself based on ur hype level, its weird how everything looks the same in every form and to have the buff be numbers only.)
Robust spirit is for Tier 3 , dont ever try to use it on T1-2 , due to low spec on jewelry it takes ages to recover Hype
yea i would say min 1200-1400 spec
Did... It sucked xD
Add Wardancer
made a soulfist and its gonna get deleted until all my other alts hit t3 sadly i dont like the energy management and all that other stuff that comes on top but it looks cool atleast
I was thinking about using my second power pass on Artillerist, but if I can play Soulfist ignoring that the spirit bomb exists, I may consider playing her, and even boost her instead of the Artillerist.
Technically Energy Overflow builds don’t have to use spirit bomb. Sometimes it could hurt the dps rotation due to long casting time
Hype?
You mean KAIOKEN ?!
Puny lost ark Sayan... can only go to KAiOKEN x3
Ok but build for 282 skill points?
Robust spirit lvl 3 and energy overflow lvl 1 is the way to go
1:39 that is not a skill, thats a freaking meteorite
i prefer venomous fist instead of the orbs, i can spam that 24/7 due to low cd and chi, plus it has poison tripod and you can put bleed rune :D tbh that skill gives lots of dps
So I have been having a lot of issues with spirit bomb. Is way too easy to miss it. There is prob no point in using the awakening engraving is there
its pretty easy to land u just do it on stagger or if u know the bosses movements. i rarely miss it
@@FabricateFrog liar
Love these series. Could u do "How does dps Paladin play"? Keep it up!!!
Let's see how many softies I trigger with this comment lol
atk buffs don't stack, so energy release is pretty useless in nearly all of her builds. even more so in a swiftness build that gets palm cd low enough to keep it up nearly 100% of the time. nearly all builds will take palm and get the atk boost, so the actual increase energy release provides isn't 40%, it's only 40 - 25 = 15 over what palm already provides (12% increase in overall damage at the cost a entire level 10 skill). that's not very much when you consider you could get another high damage skill instead. the cleanse can be nice but you would be using it for dps so you are unlikely to be saving it when it's actually needed. however you might as well just stop at level 7 then and put the points into another damage skill.
only real use of energy release is to buff world decimation because the other two don't last long enough. energy release isn't worth the skill points it takes to get it to 10. yes this includes it's only REAL use case, buffing world decimation...as you could just get another equal dps skill to world decimation (of which she has a ton to pick from) and do 100% of world decimation damage, instead of only 40%.
decimation ray can use any of her buffs (flash step being one that you need swiftness to get all hits within the damage window) but palm is better because it lasts the full duration without any swiftness. yes world decimation does do ~25-30% more damage over decimation ray but you sit there for so long casting world decimation and attack/cast speed does nothing to speed it up. on the other hand attack speed does speed up decimation ray. in the end you get the same damage out of the skill thanks to palm but you can do it MUCH faster and if the enemy jumps back, you will still be likely to hit them or at least get half of it off before they decide to fuck you over and move.
swiftness is a pretty good stat tho, at least on her as it stacks additively with her hype CDR. however gems don't stack additively (far as my testing goes anyway). this means it's VERY hard to get energy releases CD low enough to keep it up constantly. thus again is why palm is good enough as you don't even need a CDR gem but if you do it makes it less stressful.
not saying you can't build/play that way, it's just not the most optimal.
how do soulfist play? you go to the main menu and you choose another class.
eww
I am sorry but the recommendation for Robust and Energy is false.
Robust is harder to manage and not good in early game since it relies hard on spec, you wont have your identitiy as often and feel awful to play.
Energy Overflow is easier in early game because your ki cant run out and its easier for you to dps in a boss fight since you dont need to know the mechanics as much to see your window to activate 3 to deal dmg.
The only ''hard thing to do is spam your skills to be below 30%'', thats why you're not allowed to go into KI stage 3, since its not possible to be below 30% Energy in that stage.
Also, Robust is more peak damage, Energy Overflow is more conistent damage if you're a newer player, but a good Soulfist easily outdamages with Robust Spirit.(Speaking in beginning of T3)
Also, your stagger is not that good. In your Guardian Raid build are gonna be 2x low stagger and 1x mid stagger, you'd have to change your build if you need more stagger, which is fine, but which leads you to lose tons of dps
i totally agree on the stagger part...
many of her useful skills just dun offer stagger or weak attack ... /
i always feel so nervous when there are plenty of stagger check...
may i know which skills would you take out and get a replacement?
God I fucking hate this class. It’s feels awful awful! Tiers 1-2 still playing cause I put so many resources into it. Just got t3 probably gonna feel awful till super late
same... i was thinking of changing my main... her Tier1-2 phrase really disappoints me with RS build :(
but i have already put so many resources on her ...
@@ininderGG it’s a high skill ceiling and skill floor, I’ve been like focusing hard on macro and learning bosses, and timings cds it helps a lot, the problem is it’s so much WORK! It gets better make sure to spec in specialization. We need the hype cd
Recommending Grudge? Really? No, unless you know the mechanics of the fight inside and out, Grudge should never factor in your build for a new-intermediate player. Tired of seeing it and even more more tired to people dying with it.
I genuinely don't understand why anyone would recommend Cursed Doll and/or Grudge in the first 3 engravings ... Like bruh, do you seriously have no other engraving to use aside from these two ? Precise Dagger ? Adrenaline ? Awakening ? Master of Ambush (Ambush Master) ? I see too many morons following guides like these to the letter while having no understanding of the game, its mechanics or combat, be it general or for bosses, and they are nearly all of them focusing so much on Grudge & Cursed Doll that it hurts my soul ...
Honestly if I saw a DPS run Heavy Armor I would take them over DPS's running Cursed and/or Grudge. The amount of death and failed runs is not worth taking some who is squishy - especially a random. A dead DPS has no DPS.