What to do about WATER SPOTS: how to safely get rid of them *for good*
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2023
- Ever wondered what water spots are? Why they happen? And what you should do to get rid of them? This is a DEEP DIVE into the chemistry behind the problem -- and a thorough demonstration of the solution. You'll need some products to get the job done!
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I can’t believe this is FREE to watch!!!!
I can’t believe how detailed but easy to understand the video is.
You guys amaze me every time!
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I remember when getting back into detailing and everyone was polishing water spots except for Yvan. Thank you guys for this video which hopefully lots of people will learn from. You just have to have patience with water spots and not try to take the quick way out.
Indeed! Thanks Neil
Makes me cringe when people Polish and Polish, and can’t figure out why the spots won’t come out haha.
Lack of critical thinking and logic
Awesome explanation!! Thank you for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
Great video and process through the variation of issues people may come across. 🎉❤
Thank you
Excellent video lesson, thank you guys. In Florida mineral spots are definitely an issue. There is not a sprinkler system nor most homes if any that filter their water. Let alone d ionize their water. A lot of homes have a garage but are not situated with the room to wash and dry their car, they have to do in the driveway. This video demonstrates why everyone should wash and dry their car one section at a time. Thank again for all you do.
Thank you
That second to last sentence of yours is a platinum star! I will practice washing and drying panel-by-panel. Thanks.
Great video. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Good video...nice to see you both being realistic about the results...very good information on how thin clear coats are these days...the importance of what the trade off is when you polish too much..
Thank you
Great video! Might a make a plug? The CR Spotless system is a FIERCE asset!!!
Good call!
Hi, I just subscribed to your channel, I 1st saw one of video that you were in pan the organizer, I enjoy your experience on rinseless products, and your expertise, I also purchased few items, but will be buying few more items, thank you.
Welcome!!
New Nick and Yvan video, let’s gooo!
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Time for diy masters 🔥💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼🔥
No just people who like to share.,
Try applying Turtlewax paste onto the panel with applicator pad, allow to dry and haze, then wipe off with microfiber towel.
There is something in Turtlewax paste that removes water spots.
It doesn’t remove them, like many waxes it fills.
Such a great video and learning experience!
Cheers!
Thank you
This was a great video! Most don't know this information about water spots. Fatty approved!
thank you sir!
Great video! I have a quick question. I'm contemplating getting a ceramic coating and am wondering in a scenario like this where you have water spots on ceramic, what do you do? It seems like you are out of luck because you can't polish the spots out without stripping/ damaging the ceramic??
Also I just stumbled upon an article discussing Graphene vs Ceramic Coatings. What is your opinion on this and is Graphene better for maintenance/ being able to remove watersports without damaging Graphene coating?
Thanks for your help!
A Graphene based coating like our 3 year coating will help reduce water spots. The best preventative measure is to keep the vehicle Clean with proper wash techniques, and stay away from sprinklers.
Great video as always!
Newbie question;
Does a properly prepped, applied, and well maintained ceramic coating finished surface 100% prevent water spotting, or can water spot mineralization still embed in or on ceramic coating?
Coatings help reduce, but doesn’t prevent them.
Thanks for the content. After digging into a lot of your content (about polishing and watermarks) and getting some of your products, I was able to do a fantastic job on my vehicle today.
Wonderful!
I realize the gold standard polish is awesome, but was curious if the spots are on a ceramic coated car you could use something like carpro essence to polish so you don’t remove the coating. Great content!
That’s a filler.
Interesting. After seeing this video, I agree with you that water spots would be a huge issue in the detailing world. How do you guys avoid having water spots? I mean, do you use a water filter system? If so, what kind is it?
This basically tells me that as a diy'er, I would have to buy distilled water, gallon by gallon and do the rinseless wash. Unless you do this as a full time detailer, it's basically not worth it to buy the expensive equipment and the washing products because the hard water will cancel the purchases and create more problems with the hard water -- the source.
When using Rinseless, you will not get waterspots as long as you dry the surface with a towel
100% on point . It takes TIME to remove watermarks from GLASS
Thank you.
I really love how the guys are respectful towards each other and the viewers also, and in an simple way describe the problem and the solution, love you guys all at DIY there, cheers from Europe, just wish your products would be a little more accessible here in Poland
They are available
Https://diydetail.com/pages/distributors
@@diydetailofficial Aaah they are indeed, thank you very much!
Thank you.
Great video!
After using the pad cleaner my pad is always still super wet even after spinning at top speed, I am using rupes new lhr 15 da. I am using your guys pads, anything you are doing differently then me? I am following your directions exactly
The polisher itself is the problem, too slow to spin out the pad.
Great tutorial. I applied gyeon evo synchro on 2012 black Mercedes c250. Car sat outside in rain then Texas sun baked it for 2 weeks. Now I have a bunch of water spots. Tried gyeon water spot, car pro spot remover and water spots still there. What do you recommend to remove and prevent from future water spots? Appreciate any and all advice you may have. Thank you.
If they are baked on you may need to polish to remove the scars left by the minerals. The best preventative treatment if proper, and frequent washing.
Normally I wash the car at least once a week and never had water spots until this ceramic coating was installed. Guess I’ll need to remove it and go back to just wax. Thank you.
Great video again sir , congratulations to both. Can i ask a business related question, your perspective please?......
On offering paint correction( or general) services ,we have to force the customer to "correct" on his paint what WE see ,with our fancy lights and our critical eye...OR....just to remove what CUSTOMER see, and his is bothering about,and want to pay about, and came to our business in the fist place?
Again congratulations
It’s the customers car, and the less you « correct » the paint the better it is for the paint. Paint correction is better termed paint removal. To remove a scratch that’s 20um deep, you need to remove 20um of clearcoat.
@@diydetailofficial agree sir. Thanks for your time. My kind regards.
Keep up the great work
@Mdetailing Thank you
When making the rinseless for this specific application, do I have to make it with with distilled water or can I use hose/tap water? Thanks.
Tap water is fine
I have a white car, and I don't seem to get visible water spots. Is it just that I can't see them, or do I possibly not have any? Just wondering if I should still use water spot remover before updating my ceramic coating. I am usually pretty careful about where I park, and I live in Vancouver, if where you live can affect whether or not you get water spots.
White cars are less susceptible to water spots as the surface never gets really hot.
I've recently acquired a 2012 4Runner with trashed paint. I went through your whole Decon/waterspot removal/paint correction process. Lots of etching remain. Guess you would recommend going with the wool pad? How many for a 4Runner? Didn't use your polish, would you recommend going back with that as well on the wool?
Only one pad is needed. Be careful some defects are best left alone.
@@diydetailofficial so you would just get it as good as you could get it, coat it, and move on?
@BradButler-ky9vu correct
What is your recommended paint protection to resist or prevent water spots on a black car. Car sits outside and neighbor likes to point her water hose end sprinkler into the air rinsing her tree leaves. I can’t control when her overspray lands on my black car, then bakes in the sun. I’ve used a water spot remover to remove minerals. Next I’ll polish gyeon evo synchro off and recoat with another paint protection. What do you recommend that sheets instead of beads or how would you attack this issue?
DIY Detail 3 year coating, and use DIY Detail Quick Beads as a maintenance product.
Thanks for this guys.
You know how it seems water spots are gone, but then the panel heats up and they come back, given this, is it worth heating the panel up, using water spot remover and then polishing?
My 2006 m3 has waterspots visible under certain light, which I thought were gone but seems to have reappeared after spending a few weeks outside! There’s no white staining but just a faint outline of the spots
When following this technique that’s not required, but it’s also not a bad thing to do.
@@diydetailofficial would you heat the panel up and then use water spot remover, or only heat it up when polishing?
@@Obsessioncardetailing I would do it before using DIY Detail Water Spot Remover. When polishing you never want to create heat.
Thanks. In the past we've polished cars after heating them with an IR light to make phantom water spots disappear, very risky though and not fun at all! This sounds a lot safer!
Definitely safer.
I have some embedded tree sap on my wife’s 23 crv. I’ve tried tree sap remover, polish with a DA, is there something I can do to remove the sap deposits. They had sat on the car for about 6 months prior to using the DIY tree sap remover.
Unfortunately the paint may be etched.
what prevents/shields off water spots better, wax or ceramic gloss?
Wax absorbs the minerals
I see that can be used on glass as well. Do you use that same spot remover on glass or is it better to just polish them off the glass?
Start with DIY Detail Water Spot Remover
So what should I use in my pad cleaner. Just distilled water or distilled water with rinseless or Domenica else
DIY Detail Rinse Less Wash
Would a good spray carnauba suffice on top of the ceramic?
Yes
Well, this video persuaded me about the potential of the DIY Detail Polishing System. If you guys knew how to restore at 99% this hood with this system, then Idk what this system cannot fix... Unfortunatelly, I noticed your partner who ships to EU mentions in their Shipping Page that they are currently not shipping. Is there another alternative for EU? Thanks in advance!
We have distributors in the UK and Netherlands at the moment.
@@diydetailofficial I was talking about the one in UK. I didn't know about Netherlands. You guys should make it more loud that you are in EU 😂 Now I see that in your website under Distributors
Thank you
As you suggested I would like to apply a wax over my recently installed DIY 8 year coating
Do you have any wax brand recommendations? You mention paste/liquid > how about a spray wax that is Graphene infused ?
Better yet… how about a DIY brand wax any plans for that 🤔
Our wax is on the way. You want a wax without abrasives, silicone, or
Teflon. A cream wax that fills is ideal.
I am getting gems and gold nuggets out of these questions! Thank Yvan!
How many pads yellow foam pads will you use for a car like that? I just purchased a Bauer 7inch rotary polisher and it only comes in a 7inch backing plate and I would like to use your jeweling pad but it only comes in a 6.25 inch any suggestions?
One pad. We use Lake Country backing plates. They are available in many sizes.
@@diydetailofficial thank you I will look to buy a backing plate from Lake Country so I can use your jeweling pad for finishing, last question, is there a particular reason as to why so many other detailers use up to 8-10 pads per vehicle and you prefer to use only one? I know there is some science behind multiple pads but why only one pad for your preference? Thanks in advance just seeing how many waffle pads I need to buy from you.
They use multiple pads because that’s the way it’s been done for decades. Cleaning pads as we polish is a new concept for many unfortunately.
what about thick stubborn deposits on the trim? they seem to have formed from not drying the car properly?
DIY Detail Water Spot Remover
In my do it yourself carwash you can choose mineral free water. Is it then okey to not dry your car and drive off with it wet?
Yes
OK! I finally understand ratios now - 1 ounce of Rinseless wash in 2 gallons of water! That then must also mean that the 1 ounce is the control for 15 to 1 or 10 to 1. 15 being water and its 15 ounces.
Correct
What would you change with this process for glass? I’ve noticed a wired hazing on my glass after water spot remover, but only when glass is damp.
That’s the Waterspot remover reacting to the minerals on the surface. Rinse and agitate to remove.
To remove water spots like on the Audi, it’s a $500 and up job.
I really appreciate it thank you
Thank you
Does this also work on windows? The majority of my problems areas on my personal vehicle tend to be there.
Yes
When using waterspot remover. Can it be used after iron remover and Claying process. Then rinse off ?
Yes
Is black colored paint the worst paint to notice water spots on? Is there an ideal colored paint where you wouldn’t notice the spots on?
White is less prone to water spots as is never gets as hot.
Is it usually direct heat that etches them into the paint?
One of my cars got wet in the garage which doesn't let in much heat a couple months ago and got covered in water spots but i observed that they're just spots on top of the surface of the clear while removing them. Water spot remover softens them up to the point where hand polising them wipes them off the surface at the moment
Water spots form by evaporation, water spot etching is when the evaporation is forced by heat.
@diydetailofficial Ahh I guess i got lucky as the car stayed locked away for all those months even though it got wet Removing them now is just really tedious 😮💨
Unfortunately yes
I had a lot of water sports on my jet skis what I have to do which product I have to use ?
Good question! the same principles apply for your jet ski as we used in this video: thorough wash, decontamination with Iron Remover and Decon Towel, water spot remover (agitate with Rinseless Wash dampened towel) then either wool or yellow waffle, probably wool, pad, paired with Gold Standard Polish
Great video as always guys…
Now I have found that white distilled vinegar works great for removing the minerals everytime… Convince me why I should use Water Spot Remover over my cheaper substitute 😅.
While it works, it’s not as effective, and has nothing to provide lubrication.
Is polishing always required after we use waterspot remover ?
No, if the water spots are gone you are done:)
What tool did you use to measure the clearcoat?
A paint thickness gauge
can this product be used to remove water spots on glass?
same principles apply that we used in this video, you would use this first and agitate it in then rinse....and if water spots remain then try polishing
Hello Yvan. Why do detailers not simply only offer the exterior WCC? I see they tend to add many other services like ceramic coating, interior cleaning etc. when adding all those things takes so much more time and its simply not as profitable as only offering the WCC. Because from what I've learned from you, the package that most clients value the most is the WCC and its also the most profitable and takes the least amount of time. Or am I missing something? Would love to know your thoughts on this.
Unfortunately many detailers work for their ego, not for their customer.
@@diydetailofficial Ah its an ego thing, I didn't know that. Appreciate the reply.
Get a 12 by 12 canopy at Lowe’s 150 bucks instant shade 😁
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Is it safe to use water spot remover on the windshield wiper black plastic area? I have a lot of spots in that area and wanted to get rid of them.
Yes.
Thank you
can i just use my carwash soap on the mitt that's in the bucket to agitate after spraying the water spot remover on?
Yes
If I put a wax on my car, will washing my car weekly degrade the wax? Or is there certain types of car soaps that'll help the wax last?
Wax degrades from fracturing caused by heat cycles. Best practice is to wax every 2 months, or even better apply a ceramic coating.
Can you wax over a ceremic coating?
A non abrasive wax, yes.
Can you use it on the glass ?
Yes
Would you still want to hit this with the red rotary jeweling pad to take it to next level?
Of course.
Im 8 months late to this video, but better late than never.
I have a question about water spots and etching. I have a beautiful black cadillac ct4 blackwing, and I unfortunately paid the dealer to apply a "ceramic" coating when I purchased it . All i can see are water spots on the hood when looking at the paint and not the reflection. Is it possible the dealer just applied whatever ceramic, over the etching and if so, would it be better to use your water spot remover, before AND after i polished to remove those coated minerals?
Awesome video btw.
Yes, unfortunately it’s very possible they put their product over water spots.
Wash, decontaminate, apply DIY Detail Water Spot Remover, rinse, dry, inspect.
Light polishing if required, apply DIY Detail Water Spot Remover again, inspect then allow to bake in the sun before polishing again.
@diydetailofficial Perfect! Thank you for the quick reply as always guys. I will do this when I'm ready to put on a legitimate ceramic DIY DETAIL coating vs the whatever coating the dealer did. You guys are the best, thank you! Cant wait to get this project going!
Thank you.
Can you guys do a video of how to do rise less wash on a really dirty car? Maybe for some of us that need something to get us through winter time.
Here you go
ua-cam.com/video/Y2JlQoYpRpE/v-deo.htmlsi=bOalKKxvlH2hgThg
Wheel acid? Would that work
It’s very dangerous
So always usually polish on speed 3? And y'all used your polish with the wool pad, instead of a rubbing compound because thats too aggressive?
On a long stroke DA yes speed 3 is sufficient. No need for a rubbing compound with The Gold Standard Polishing System
Water spot remover on winter road salt is 🎉
Exactly
Didn't you two do a video similar to this for Tree Sap Remover? I can't seem to find it. If I am dreaming and no Tree Sap Video was made, could one be made sometime in the future?
We are working on it, finding cars with tree sap isn’t very common.
@diydetailofficial Park your car under a tree in my neighbor's driveway, you will use half a bottle.
In the right season.
When you two do a Tree Sap Remover video, will it be a decon detail that will include Spot Remover and Iron Remover with Decon Towel? I am curious what the most efficient and time-saving means of going from one to the other to the other would be. Such as I know Spot Remover and Iron Remover can be used while the vehicle is still wet but I think I recall reading Tree Sap Remover should be used on a try vehicle so I am curious what process you two would use.
It can be used on a damp vehicle, but yes is more effective dry. I would wash and dry the vehicle quickly, use the tree sap remover, and then proceed with the rest.
13:42 Nick, it's not rotary you are angling in your hands there... 😉😁
The Hawkeye 😂
what is the most aggressive method on MATT PAINT? when normal water spot remover or clay bar is not working!
That’s unfortunately all that can be done. Once the minerals in the water have etched the surface they can be removed, but not the etching.
@@diydetailofficial how about wheel cleaner? some suggest it's stronger than regular water spot remover...
actually water spot remover is not very effective, I haven't seen a single youtube video that can remove the spots by the spray "alone"... it's always still there and needs further treatment, ending up in machine polish....
Do you follow the same procedure for removing water spots on PPF if I am using your water spot remover before polishing? Can you let the water spot remover dwell longer as long as it doesn’t dry on the film?
Correct
Is there a reason water spot remover doesn't come in gallon refills?
Coming soon.
great, i got the 16oz but reliased i need a lot more@@diydetailofficial
@@diydetailofficial Great to hear! Thank you.
Thank you
So, coatings have been proven NOT to protect from hard watermark stains.
In fact, certain coatings can even worsen the retention of such hard watermark stains.
It’s actually a bit of an industry myth. Quality Coatings are not more prone to be affected by water spots. Unfortunately in the early years of coatings, some people overestimated, and over promised their capabilities. One of these was that you never needed to wash your car again and just hose it off and let it dry. The people that did that definitely experienced water spots. It wasn’t the coatings fault, it was the marketing’s fault. Many have stayed with this impression.
Wow. I think i'm ready to polish my first car.
Go for it!
its hard to see it what we see more all the squares from the lights
We are building a new studio with better lighting
If someone has water spots under a ceramic coating basically would have to polish the truck then turn around and do this process on it. After that then go back around with panel prep before coating with ceramic coating again?
Correct
Hey dudes in these times when we have ssooo much to watch on UA-cam bout so many things, how bout keeping ur videos short and to the point?
We have many short videos, one every day.
Agreed. I stopped watching the long versions because I simply have life I need to keep vs. You tube 30+ minutes videos of how to wash the car etc.
With that rate I’ll never find time to actually wash the car myself. lol.
Out of stock DIY detail waterspot remover :(
Not for long
You say Yvan that rain cant cause waterspots. Is that different for people who live near the sea/ocean.Great vid yet again guys
Correct
I got a chemical guys commercial on your video 😅
They are good at targeting.
❤👍👍
Thanks for watching
Last question for today 🙈: do you agree with this sentence i Heard ---> "Gloss Is given by polishing First"
Yes, the gloss is created by the paint polishing process, coating locks it in.
In my country our waterspot removers are called, acid rain remover an they are a ph4 acid. And it will remove those so quickly.
Apply it on a damp microfiber an all you need is 1 wipe, its gone
When they are not etched, correct this will also remove them quickly
It might be easier just to sand it down and repaint it.
expensive though, at least you can get acceptable results this way and it's much less time and money:)
Soooo… you mentioned we should use wax… when do you guys have a wax coming out tho?!?!?
Soon
So a mineral remover, not a waterspot remover. The name is a bit deceiving. I’ve used waterspot removers that actually removed the entire waterspot without having to polish it out afterwards. I’ve also polished without using waterspot remover without the spots reappearing. All depends on on several factors. Great video, but the expectation was for a different outcome due to the title.
The industry accepted term is Waterspot remover, but I agree they should all be called mineral contamination removers. DIY Detail Water Spot Remover will remove Waterspots , but if they have been given the opportunity to etch like these unfortunately polishing is required.
Ready to roll
appreciate you as always
The sad part is dealerships in general just want cheap car washers/cleaners on the payroll. At least train the people you have.
It’s an unfortunate situation
Oh wax on a coating there’s people shouting blasphemy 😂
Until they try it.
Yvan "I'm looking at the surface of the paint, not the reflection. That is very hard to do". Those who know, know.
It’s not easy for sure.
A hundred products and rocket science, all because of washing with water. Is this car supposed to run on the road or is it a clay model
Water spots are not caused by washing, they are caused by poor wash technique.
Aliens in mexico tho.
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Why are you wearing watch while detailing ? That young guy have iron buckle watch, You take risk what you'll fix
We haven’t damaged anything yet, but it’s always good to be safe when detailing. If you don’t want to wear a watch, don’t do it 👍
I always polish water spots they never come back.
Your lucky
Father and son
Almost