Why Vegeta Blue Sucks in Dragonball FighterZ
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- somebody buff this GUY
Edit: hey guys, please also watch this follow-up video that has some corrections to this one about my opinion on the character after his new buffs. • Why Vegeta Blue is FIN...
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HE HAS BEEN BUFFED SIGNIFICANTLY WOO
I knew you would comment
Lol
I wanna main him now
But this video is still pretty funny XD
He still can't grab crouching opponents, but atleast they made the light version's start up the same as the Heavy one
Me, doesn’t even own a copy of the game
“That grab is ass”
You know its a terrible grab when you dont even have to play the game to know its bad
Least don't have to worry about accidentally pressing heavy. Yes Jiren i'm looking at you
@@VIIBars its good. Only noobs shit on it
Xavier Ramirez It’s really not that good. You get rewarded a raw level 3 for him trying to hit you with it, you duck, then level 3. That’s so bad. Only noobs think it’s that good. There are so many better grabs, it can combo and is an anti air but that’s it. I’ve been playing vegeta blue a lot and I really only find myself using it as a combo tool.
@@EnderGoku9001 omg if vageta's grab is ass then jiren's grab is ass cancer
My dad at the grocery store: “hey can you weight these apples on that scale real quick?”
Me: *O N A S C A L E O F 1 T O 10...”*
*I ' L L G I V E Y O U A T H R E E*
For some reason this is so accurate
*Is ThAt AlL?*
Me watching big hero 6: *nice*
Me hearing be max say on a scale of 1 to 10: *I ' l l g I v e y o u a t h r e e*
AILL GIVR YOU A THREE
Vegeta Blue: "Brother(s), may I have some lööps?"
Vegeta and ssj Vegeta: "Nö."
5S 5L links and can be looped. Play the character before you talk ignorant shit.
@@luhloieed6466 Some people talking here have never seen a blugeta match in their lives.
@@rau3412 There's a little something called a jOkE my dude
@@YakuzaKiritoKazama and there is this
Or just raw lvl 3 -_-
The best part of the character is the *YAHH* every time he does the level 1
You ain't lying
nah dont forget bro... *ON A SCALE OF ONE TO TEN-*
@@deeznuts9886 I'll give u a 3🤣
On a scale of one to ten, YAHHHH
Vegeta: But there's one thing a Saiyan always keeps: HIS PRI-
*Yamcha S tier*
Vegeta: nvm lol
**Laughs is base vegeta**
@@theeagle7552 **laughs in krillin**
@@Not_Claptrap *laughs in nothing*
(Laughs in Super Baby 2)
**Laughs in SSJ4 Gogeta**
Me, who doesn't even play fighterZ: *interesting*
Same
Same
Can relate.
I have it, but haven't played it in months. Thinking of trading it in.
@@PaganUchiha yeah it's just a easy mode Mvc3
Dragon Ball Fighter Z, a fighting game where a God of Destruction, the strongest person in universe 11, and a Super Saiyan Blue are all bottom 5 in the game
Edit: Well I'm glad I'm wrong now
strongest person in all
The universes*
And Yamcha is top tier.
Jiren deserves to suck but why they gotta do beerus like that?
Yeah. I'll say. And yamcha, who's a joke in the dbz series, is godlike in this game.
I honestly really like that. I hated how all the other DBZ fighters had hundreds of characters yet they used canon power levels so everyone just picked the same two or three villains + Goku & Vegeta.
1:58 goku has stooped so low from biting a persona tail to straight squaring them in the nuts
What is that pfp
Sauce?
goku has bit a lot of people, your gonna need to specify
@@thesleeperpick9784 frieza 2 times as well
@@white-eyesbluedragon1767 oh ok
"There's still hope"
Yeah. It's called Blue Evolution.
1DAR26 if he is added I hope arcsys can fix his hard to look at aura
completely remake blue vegeta to make them evolved. itd be a really sick update, and make a pretty bad character actually really good.
SSG vegeta
Yup ! Hope for the new DLC
Please god no more reskins of goku or vegeta
This video: "Blue Vegeta sucks because of technical mumbo jumbo"
Me: "Big beam go boom boom"
But big bang attack isn't a beam 😐
@@GreatATheOne Well whatever it is go boom boom
Great A
Galick gun is
Blue Vegeta sucks because you could just play Yellow Vegeta.
@@GreatATheOne ok nerd
to think that beerus, jiren and 17 were once considered the worst characters in the game is such a crazy thing considering they're top tiers nowadays
Jesus when Vegeta pulled out the gat I audibly went “....WHAT??”
i know his season 3 buffs are wild
Nice.
3:48 more main character privileges
0:46
Me watching and considering ssgss is trash
I like goku blue but I hate vegeta blue in both anime and DBFZ(3.5 patch) he is a freakin threat.
To be fair, dbfz came put before vegeta got ssbe and considering blue vegeta did fuck all a final flash is probably the only thing he could do
It’s funny how at the end of his level 5 he says “WORTHLESS PIECE OF JUNK”
Ironic.
This didn't age well
"I need help!"
"What the hell was that"
He does. Literally.
@@Rationalist101 he has been asking for help since day one and never got it 😔
"WHAT!?"
What the hell is going on??!!
Crouching in stealth games be like
2:13
Alot of wrong information in this video. I think you should lab this character more carefully. Here is a small list of corrections:
1. The medium rekkas don't have a massive gap. The gap is under 4f, so you cannot vanish out of them or 2H it. Small gap, not massive.
2. The first ex Rekka does not only 100 more damage, it increases the damage on the follow-up as well. You didn't even mention the range it has.
3. That's not how you use the 2nd ex Rekka. Like, at all. The gap is not massive yet again.
4. Didn't even talk about the last ex Rekka...
5. Since when are 20f grabs slow? Not that they are supposed to be used in blockstrings like that anyway.
6. Yes, it whiffs on crouchers. Not the only grab in the game that whiffs on crouchers, it's not supposed to be used like Broly's grabs, he is not a grabbler.
7. You say Goku Blue's 17f grab is fast, but said earlier Vegeta Blue's Rekkas are slow? You know they are 17f too, right?
8. The kiblasts aren't slow, they have normal speed. Trainingsmode has even framedata now.
9. No Kiblast is "just a combo tool". That's just misleading.
10. Garlic Gun is not useless, it does more damage than Niagara-super and is the go-to super-ender for that reason.
11. You can land Garlic Gun midscreen without ex grab (or any grab for that matter). You just need to dash forward.
The edits are funny, entertaining video if I would just take it as entertainment. Sadly, the quality of the content and what is presented is very misleading and at some places just straight-up lies or lack of proper lab time with the character. I suggest you spend a bit more time with the character, actually lab what he is capable of doing. Or ask someone who knows the character.
Have a good day!
TALK TO HIM!!!!
He gets off way more damage than normal characters. His ex cancel super does so much damage if used right
The fact that he has the general Vegeta normals makes him mid tier at least, his mix got nerfed in S2 actually, which is plain stupid, he used to get better mix off of his rekkas, it's still loads better than like half the cast though. He has some mind games off of the rekkas and contrary to popular belief, his neutral isn't that bad if you know when and where to use his big bang attack. Certainly not the worst in the game by far. Let's look at Base Vegeta, what makes B Vegeta better than Blue Vegeta? Literally 2 things, Ex kick and better ki blasts. This means Blue Vegeta is like 2 minor buffs away from being top tier, if they'd maybe just buff his rekkas a bit more in neutral and gave him a grounded spammable kiblast like B Vegeta and SSJ have.
Galick gun IS pretty useless though. Barely does more damage than niagara on paper, but niagara can be combo’d ( i like to super dash into a Big Bang into a C assist (goku blues)
And dhc galick gun can miss
@@alberttaylor6323 Niagara post-smash has double-super penalty. So no, you cannot replace Garlic Gun with Niagara. If you dont want to DHC further and just kill with the 1 super of Vegeta Blue, Niagara will do more tho, that's right (but also only if you are in the corner and HSD allows to connect anything meaningful).
If DHC Garlic Gun misses for you, then you just need to practise and lab better DHC routes. It never misses for me.
Blugeta voice line should be changed to "On scale from one to ten I'll give me a 3"
I love this character and he's definitely aimless. I've had some AH HA moments in the lab, thinking I figured out how to play him in neutral, or mix, but it always ends up being way more situational once I revisit it. Cell has some, interesting(?) Extentions off big bang, but like, why not just have a beam or vegeta ssj or bardock b. I think they could balance him by just giving him crazy meter gain. Like imagine if you got a grab and it gave you a whole ass bar. I wouldn't care if it didnt hit croutchers. Any time I trick people into getting snagged it always feels better than just command grabbing with Broly or Base Goku.
I'm having those "AH HA" moments with him as well (albeit, I'm not as in depth as most players as I'm still a newbie) and it feels great. It also puts a smile on my face to hear you mention Cell since he's also on my team, along with Kid Buu, so now I'm excited!
I used to main vegeta blue and now that you mention it, meter gain wouldn't be too bad of an idea. Maybe not a whole bar for a grab though lol but more meter gain would definitely help compensate and I would definitely pick back up the character and play around with it.
You should do a vid on 17, he's an S tier in disguise. The amount of mixes and combos and shits you can do with that man if you know how to play him right is ridiculous.
17 whole reason for existing is mix and combos. The thing is if you have a sharp eye and good reaction time it's not hard to block his rukas ( 236 moves and 214 moves)
He has good mix but they are unsafe
any time I play a good 17 main they fuck me up beyond recognition
He is actually easy to counter if you have someone with an op auto combo ( Bardock, Base Goku, Janemba) where you don’t need to jump to confirm a L hit ( on his overhead move in the rekka). He is still pretty good though A or B tier.
Let's not forget THE METER THIS DUDE BUILDS.
For real, during sparking it feels like at every combo he'll build up to 4 bars at least
I feel like the reason behind this character's aimless design is because of where the show was at when the game came out. How many full fights did vegeta blue have by this game's launch, which I believe was midway through the zamasu arc? He was either beating the tar out of somebody much weaker than him or getting annihilated, there wasn't really a moment that showed him equal with someone. I mean, the "on a scale of one to ten" move was just based on a quick moment while he was training with trunks, I'd hardly call that important enough to become a main part of his toolset.
No it came out during the Tournament of Power but was likely being developed as the Black Arc was coming out. Up to that arc, Blue Vegeta had a total of 4 actual fights which were
- Pummeling Golden Freiza
- Getting destroyed by Hit
- losing to Goku Black in their 1st fight
- destroying Goku Black in their 2nd fight
He had a few sparing sessions and assists like training with Trunks before they went back into the past and pushing away Fused Zamasu's blast with Trunks.
@@genericwhitemale9566 Yeah, all of those were, in my words from a year ago, him beating the tar out of somebody much weaker than him or getting annihilated. There were never really many opportunities for Vegeta Blue to really showcase any unique moves in that time, whereas if it was developed post-ToP they'd have a lot more to work with
1:16 Vegeta's face is mine when i saw my bars
I don't even play this game, but these are really some great videos you're pushing out. Good presentation with some humor, and snappy editing throughout.
thank you!
Me who mains blue vegeta: HE NOT THAT BAD.
That true Vegeta blue is a beast right now i play with him and is incredible
0:55 Mouse
NOOOOOOO
I know you didn't put a lot of thought into this video nor do you actually play the character and that's ok
1:33 You almost killed me choking on my food showing this scene to me.. Just wanted to let you know.
I saw the Why vegeta blue doesn't suck anymore. Now im here
Love how the newest video is Vegeta is top tier
This aged well
I've seen this somewhere else, but maybe give him Blue Evolution as a level 3, which acts like a Golden Frieza type of thing. It could also include SSJBE Vegeta in the game without using a character slot.
Vegeta really went from absolutely awful to one of the best in the game.
This aged badly
ON A SCALE ON A SCALE ON A SCALE ON A SCALE ON A SCALE
Top tier: exists
Bluegeta after 3.5: bonjour
I’m seeing so many people upset in the comments and I’m just sitting here laughing as a ginyu player
Just here to pay my respects to the good ol days now that Blugeta is winning.
I’ll always feel a part of this is the issue of having the 3 Gokus and Vegetas early on in the game Ultra Instinct Goku didn’t have these kinda problems but the other all use similar attacks and animations from each other and when there are even a select few abilities and just general ideas they could’ve pulled from later on in Super or even in the Broly movie too bad the Super manga was opted to be completely ignored too all this kinda subject to when this game originally was in development
Blue Vegeta is lowkey (S-) - (A+) tier. He's actually really good if you put in the work.
Right. Making me sad dissing him like this :(
Ya'll check this out:
ua-cam.com/video/a9Dp9w7JTkY/v-deo.html
This guy counters most of the points made in this video. If you lab him you will find out that he is pretty OD.
One thing good about the “scale one to ten” thing, it dunks aggressive players that like super dash, like me, since they get a free combo
4:06 Whats remix of this song?
It's in the description.
How can you say he's bad? I have a 123828% win rate and a Blue Evolution rank using him as a point...you just need to gitgud or adjust your gameplan - Every fanboy ever
Only scrubs will call him bad
I don't know that much about dragon Ball, but it seems like every time Vegeta gets a power up life just goes "lol no" to him
I don’t think he is the worst, I just think all of low tier characters (Ginyu, Jiren, 17, Beerus, etc.) is just “meh” to me. I won’t lie, I love playing Jiren, but I don’t just brush off his counters, they still suck. All in all, I just think that it doesn’t matter who you pick. If you have fun playing them, then that makes them good for you (at the very least)
Finally someone that loves playing Jiren and doesn't think he's trash...
Kanye Rahming HUZZAH A MAN OF QUALITY!! What system you on? I’m willing to spar and just train with anyone during this time!
This aged like pilk
This hasn't aged well
He made a new video talking about how Vegeta blue is now, and it’s easily better than this one is in terms of quality, which is saying a lot considering how great this video is already. Vegeta’s improved in the last 9 months, and so has Moldy’s editing.
@@justafellerwithnoprofilepi4546 oh I know I just forgot to delete this comment
I think that if a sequel ever gets made, they should consolidate the clone characters into 1 or 2 max. Take the best parts of all of them and leave out the underwhelming parts. Maybe even make transformations a mechanic. The roster would be much smaller, but each character would feel more unique.
Me : So he doesn't do too much damage? Don't worry i won't use him.
Me : ( Still uses him )
coming back after he got big bang attack buffs
When your weakest stade is the best in the game and your most powerful stade is the worst in the game.
Visible confusion.
Do you play this character? Because plenty of these opinions seem uninformed and the "good points" are shown poorly. You want actual flaws? I'll giveit to them.
Also Blue Goku leel 3 is also an asset flip, (reuses dragon rush, j2H and level 1 aimed upwards) but why don't you bring that up?
@@luhloieed6466 some people don't deserve soft words
then can you provide proof that blue vegeta isn't as bad as he claims to be. What tools does he have over other characters including his ssj and base self?
@@lapplandkun9273 Someone in this comment section already made a post about them. It's a large wall of text.
ssj1 vegeta - well thought process to understand his kit
base vegeta- L O O P S
Ladies and Gentleman, the most slept on and under utilized character in all of fighting game history:
...
whYLiE09 the people who say he trash only use his command grav
3:38 and you know, your standard 3 hit light attack
How the turn tables
2:25 jokes on you i cant react to that
Bro had the biggest redemption arc
When they nerfed him and made it so you couldn’t combo his command grab in air without using the EX version, I stopped playing him.
As a Vegeta Blue main, this hurt different......
And all he did was state facts.....
4:00 ok seriously how have I not seen a captain falcon mod for Vegeta they even have the same voice actor in Japanese
people are just gonna repeat without even trying the character once and it's gonna be mad annoying
@@luhloieed6466 good editing do not excuse everything, this is just misinformation at this point, and rehearse of rooflemonger's vid
Spectaa a i tried him and i hate his grab (his kicks are underated tho)
I love all the online ranked players talking shit lmfao there’s a reason he’s not really seen at the pro level... people who play the game professionally would know about the character more than online players even if they don’t play them...
The kek this video gives me after the s3.5 buff is amazing
We all know ginyus one of the best character in the game, I mean come on he can give you the best character in the game
bruh I have this game and wow there so much to learn and I havent even tried online once
I'm probably the biggest noob out there and I own the 1st 2 figherz pass
don't worry dude ive played training mode for a literal year and haven't even gotten a 9k plus dmg combo
baby same
I always watched this video muted for some reason and thought the scale thing meant it was balanced
0:40 bröther may I have some
Laughs in s3.5
Everyone has to deal with this while I play my xenoverse 2-
HE GOT BUFFED IN THE PATCH BABY 🍼
*me being a blue Vegeta player*
How!?
Because different from the guy who made the video, You probably knows how to use Vegeta Blue well.
This video is all misinformation this one has the correct facts about vegeta blue ua-cam.com/video/a9Dp9w7JTkY/v-deo.html
My honest oppinion? Make most of his moves cancelable. As like a gimmick. They sorta went there with his kicks being optional to throw them all out, but with stagger-pressure in the meta right now they could easily make him a solid A-Tier.
Just think about it. Pretend to throw out a Big Bang and replace it with a 2h when they inevitably try to teleport. Make his kicks safer to use just one or two hits, hell maybe even make it so that with the EX kicks you don't have to crossup. Maybe even make it so that if you hold down the input for the grab, he just cancels it and he is just in the air now.
The possibilities are endless.
Please do a “Why *Videl* sucks” vid please.
hmmm i mean why wouldn't she *suck*
Just a Mustache without a Guy I see what you did there
Gohan knows why she succs
*S U C C*
He's actually good. First hit of EX kicks really Jacks your combo damage up, he can combo off supers, great corner combos
ＯＮ Ａ ＳＣＡＬＥ ＯＦ ＯＮＥ ＴＯ ＴＥＮ，Ｉ‘ＬＬ ＧＩＶＥ ＹＯＵ Ａ ＴＨＲＥＥ．
😂😂😂
You just described at least half the cast, and I don't think comboing off supers is all that great.
@@cagewaters4910 okay well his choke slam starts combos, his rekka kicks create a high low mix, big bang attack is an amazing anti homing dash tool that starts huge damage combos on the ground, second hit of rekka kicks EX gets a side switch and he's the only character with an air level 5. Obviously he has stubby normals sure and he's a point character with little assist value outside of specific synergies but someone like 17 or ginyu are much less complete packages
Did you even watch the video?
His choke slam doesn't hit crouching opponents, his kicks besides light are 100% reactable on block and you even have time for a level 3 between them, EX kick uses a bar for every kick, big bang is an average anti-homing tool at best, and his combos take way too much meter to get the effect that good characters get with way less meter.
I use him I don’t think he’s garbage 😭
I did In my time too but I changed to goku Blue
@@Malzeno_9 how did it go
@The door
Goku blue is very good for facts that I don’t plan to explain here because it will be long asfuck and Im lazy but yeah Goku did A LOT better than vegeta in my team An interesting fact is that I didn’t say I mained vegito after vegeta
Because was out of context but whatever with vegito happen the same thing. Specially with the L kick at the end of end. Pushes you at the front and not down the screen. Plus goku haves the glorious *E X T A C K L E*
The editing in this video is actually so good, even people who don't play this game can watch this video and be entertained
Personally, Blue Vegeta is good as a point character.
Yeah, but vegeta base and ssj are better
Yeah but once you play better players trust me he’s just not going to work
Blugeta is only decent as a point character, anywhere else he is useless
Any character is good as a point. Any character with 2 assist will be a good character.
However, that being said, there's no reason why you should play BluGeta instead of BaseGeta or SSGeta.
I used to put him in the middle because of his big bang attack assit, untill I replaced him with SS Vegeta
I'm with moldybagel. I have played this for 2018 and I'm a sweat but you WILL NEVER SEE ME PLAY DBFZ WITH "VEGETA BLUE"
People here after the vegeta blue is good videos
👇
A nice mix of informative and comedic.
appreciate it!
i dont even fucking play this game but your editing is fun as hell to watch.
“Reason why Vegeta Blue sucks: I don’t know how to use him”
He Is Buffed Like CRAAAZZZYY ik when he Buffed Everyone is goina Laugh the Day this Is Posted
Even though Blueku’s lvl 3 isn’t as much of an asset flip, it is still an asset flip that reuses the dragon rush clash, 2h, and ssj goku kamehameha super
trashing on my point character like that. smh
You all laughed, You all laughed because I mained blue Vegeta but now the patch note are here. You will all feel the wrath of my new power.
hahaha im happy for you
Wait what?? I HAD to click on this nonsense! He’s WHAT
I know how you feel
Josber Zamora I’m glad I’m not the only one. He’s one of the best characters in the game
@@steurlztutz21 You're Joking... Right?
Omega8202 nah I’m serious
@@steurlztutz21 By one of the best you mean 38th best right? Because he's actually nothing compared to any of the top tiers my dude...
1:58 That, my friends. Was when Cell's nuts were busted.
2:54 GOOD N WORD
You should see him now; Its Big Bang Season
"On a scale of 1 to 10 ill give u a-"
3 vegeta. Ur honestly not that great
Just because you don’t know how to play with a good Character doesn’t mean he suck step your game up kid
Exactly lol he should play some good players like Alukard or people who really know the character
Lmao I kept dying when you were trying to hit cell with his grab because all I heard was “on a scale of 1 to 10” over and over
scale scale scale scale
Bad thing about these kind of videos is that even though they can be very entertaining, since they are about a game that is constantly updating, they can get outdated pretty fast.
Yeah that's why i have to have the editing to stand the test of time
@@MoldyBagel Anyways it helps people like myself, who are still learning the basics about good and bad things regarding animations, frames, etcetera.
I don't even play FighterZ, but your edits are so entertaining that I watched the whole video.
No wonder he has a hurt quote "I need help!"
Huh. Always wondered how people come to these conclusions about fighting game characters. Like, I know ABOUT frame data, wind ups, punishing, etc. but I've never really had it explained side by side like this.
Incredibly informative and I don't even play the game, lol!
It’s funny I used to have Android 16, Vegeta Blue and Goku Black as my Team, I dropped Vegeta Blue after a while and now I know why
lmao you're playing team low tier, but honestly it doesnt matter if you're having fun!
Hatty Hattington That’s honestly why I play FighterZ it’s just to have fun
Honestly, I didn't even know Blue Vegeta had the Galick Gun super until I saw this video.