Why Everyone Hates UI Goku
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2021
- Like a year overdue, but hey, whatever!
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Music:
(1) That Burning Town- Kid Icarus: Uprising
(2) Vordt - Dark Souls 3
(3) Aurum Island - Kid Icarus: Uprising
(4) Magnus and the Dark Lord - Kid Icarus: Uprising
(5) Wrath of The Reset Bomb - Kid Icarus: Uprising
(6) The Lunar Sanctum - Kid Icarus: Uprising - Ігри
if the part at 1:27 is anything to go off of, Ginyu was actually following UI's movements, meaning he could see him, therefore meaning Ginyu is closer to achieving Ultra Instinct than we thought
UI was actually around for ages in dragon ball, technically he mastered it right before he fought Piccolo(the 3 year old) then Popo taught everyone UI
@@saiyanfang1047 yea it’s a lesser version of it it’s just body control and movement ui is just a perfected version of it with some angel god ki injected drugs
@@cin2110 no, Popo taught moving without thinking no lesser UI the full thing but because the Super author likes old shit he retconned it
@@saiyanfang1047 Popo taught everyone hakai as well but you can’t teach maggots shit
@@Deathmare235 no, I mean in dragon ball you see him demonstrate and explain UI to Goku then say he won't train him until he can do it too, and Goku got trained by Popo
UI Goku: *stares*
Gt Goku: UA- *existence is gone*
Best part
1:33
Shenron: _let’s go Goku._
@@TUCell-ps5mi let’s goku
@@AbduShu Perfect.
Somehow it took me this long to realise that UI Goku's initial braindeadness directly links with the whole purpose of UI: to completely dodge and counter attacks without any form of consciousness in one's actions
Which is why I call this game the only game to have canon ui goku. Nobody thinks about playing this character they just kinda click things and look at the screen.
@@MokiRennthey are in the flow
@@Remijohthe flow of one dodging 30x in a row then raw level 3
Honestly, I think the worst part of UI at this point is just seeing him in every single match. You know how people always point out that the first day of a DLC, everyone is playing that character? UI's day has lasted for over 15 months now
Yep
I still use him tho😏And i use ss4 gogeta lol
@@HajiChola you a Z broly player as well? Wouldnt be surprised sense ui and him take no skill to play
@@sparkred4565 gottem
is ss4 gogeta rly that hated too ?
i use ss4, vegito and janemba. but i come from kof so i just like the combos of the game and i still suck at being annoying with the characters so idk if just another fusion player 😭💀
For Guilty Gear players who don’t understand, imagine Sol with totsugeki.
imagine sol with 5 different versions of volcanic viper
Sol = The Offensive Kind
UI Goku = The Defensive Kind
@@MoldyBagel
“In this behemoth typhoon” but it’s fucking broken
@Roger Loe I’d rather not to be honest. It sounds terrifying.
@Roger Loe Just make 5L +2 on block and advance forward more and be the core of his strike/throw mix....Wait a second.
I know this is gonna be a good vid. When going against a UI player,, they are either really good, or the exact opposite
Doesn't matter to me who's good and who's not question is will I be embarrassed or not
@@PRIME_MINISTER_OF_DN same question I ask when I play against 1 braincell bardocks
Facts I just had a UI player that quit the match because I counted the UI tech
Im still a super saiyan 3 they all suck rn
Its crazy cuz the outcome is the same either way
I mean I gotta admit UI goku’s defense is fitting. Ultra instinct was made to be a form not for power like super sayian but a state of mind that gives one the ultimate defensive abilities to counter anything your foes throw at you… still doesn’t make him any less of an annoyance though.
Technique*
@@felipemad3622 it's a form and technique
@@sarayang594 no its just a technique
@@sarayang594 like the kaioken
@@Daan-Dovah then I wanna see it stacked with ssj
This reminds me of when Leroy Smith first came out in Tekken 7, all of his moves by themselves (Excluding his parry) weren't all that special, but it's the fact that he had all of them that made him broken. He had a low crushing launcher, a sweep that always caused a knockdown and was very fast, a mid launcher that was neutral on block and could be spammed, a roundhouse with absolutely crazy range and hit mid so it couldn't be ducked or sidestepped, and that darn parry that activated quickly and was really easy to do. Again, the moves by themselves were pretty standard, but they were never all on one character meaning he had so many options when it came to starting combos and countering. He had a counter for literally everything.
Yeah it sounds like a similar situation. No single move was completely broken. But he had em all
No man. The moves Leroy had were broken even analyzed on their own. He was simply OP
His 5L is literally Sol's 6p: no wonder its a good anti air
That's the funniest thing I've read all day
Imagine if sol had a auto combo like Ui
@@Mr.Faust3 imagine if UI had a clean hitting Volcanic Viper
@@Mr.Faust3 then it's another war
@@THEVIGILANTEHD imagine if bandit bringer and night raid vortex were invulnerable to all projectiles and were plus on block
UI Goku: "It appears my superiority has lead to some controversy."
Goku black: oh, you don't say....
@@Babamarcus2632 gogeta ssj4 Shows Up: im the danger im the one WHO knocks
3:52)
Vegeta's, "I need help," will never get old.
First release ui is the perfect example of "dont mix speed based defence with high damage" balance wise
Bro what are you even on about? "Speed based defence"? Ever heard of a DP? Lmfao
@@TheMehkeyeasy. Defensive cause he's fast!
Couple people have pointed out that Kefla can also combo after Jumping Down Heavy without super dash.
But uh.... It doesn't fit my narrative so let's pretend she doesn't LOL
Edit: Also Bardock can do a similar side-switch to UI shown at 8:28 by using his double jump to get behind the opponent. However, it is still less optimal for the sake of damage. It does make me feel dumb for using Bardock in that example though lmao
Ok, deleting comment I posted a minute ago.
Nope, she never has and never will have this tool. No matter what people bring up to try and prove she does.
Yeah I was going to say. I know it's easy to miss, but I've had the rather funny (but mostly sad) observation that people thought GT Goku was the only character with a non-scaling level 3, and they now think Z Broly is the only character with a non-scaling level 3.
@@rosannronchetti2035 I main her and I literally use it as a super dash extension lol. I don't think she can do it against Gotenks and Nappa though and UI has a much easier time pulling it off so UI is still fairly privileged in that regard.
This video has so many photo memes XD
1:27 Remember Ginyu mains, always pose before a strike, even if they hit you, it's still your combo :)
I really want a gif or clip of UI just banging his head on the stick at 6:15
Same
Quote from Zyzx_ in Lobby Shenanigans 4: "His L is literally built different, I hate it!"
I love how whenever i see a upload I drop whatever I'm doing to watch it
I also love that. It gif me monies
@@MoldyBagel honestly you deserve it all considering the work you put in for all of these. Best wishes to you!
Same. XD
@@MoldyBagel LMAO
Of all the little edits in this video, Ginyu's eyes moving at 1:27 is my favorite as he realizes what a terrible mistake he's made. That said, confirmation that Videl still sucks is almost as funny, as is seeing that Zamasu is supposedly still just as bad. Those poor bastards.
i have no fucking idea how sonicfox won evo with zamasu honestly
😂😂😂
Sonicfox is just a god
Zamasu is good now man, just didn’t read the patch I guess. He has insane dog output with assist anywhere on screen with extremely good neutral thanks to the flight buffs.
@@stevendrake5268 ...If only you had just looked at when my comment was made, as well as when this video was made, then you would have _maybe_ noticed that both were made before said patch even came out. I am both aware of the changes he got and glad that Zamasu (and to a much lesser extent Videl) *finally* got buffed, but that doesn't change what I said at all given what was known about the upcoming patch, i.e. nothing, when I this.
5:57 theres a alternate timeline where this probably didn't get nerfed and the fact i have to live with that thought just utterly makes me sick and break down and cry along with vomit.
6:40 not so fun fact about this move, it can be triggered even if ui goku is behind you, i speak from experience
yep
WHY
I think the normal projectile invincibility on flips is cool, but the super projectile invincibility should only be for ex version
The invincibility against supers shouldn't exist at all. Only supers should counter supers.
@@ignisalge7156 Too be fair, your not going to be throwing out raw super much, such there is no real point
@@eseleoseefe-aluebhosele6577 to also be fair, dhc can be a surprisingly good option for switch out in sticky situations depending on super, such as a long lasting beam super into a shorter close range super that doesn't take as long. It can be hard to punish and can even catch an opponent who tries to teleport. Ui flips totally negate that option.
I mean, technically you can only dodge a level 3 with a EX version as its usually too fast for the non EX version start up.
@@ignisalge7156 I think it should exist, mainly because everyone forgets he can do that since only the EX version is usually fast enough to dodge supers for people to notice he's even flipping through beams.
and also its cool to see.
But honestly nobody even uses the flip for that so might as well keep it, and it only works on Ki based supers and not melee supers anyway.
I personally feel that all of his options are made that way to try to recreate the UI feeling. Ultra Instinct is all about not thinking, just letting the body react on its own. With UI Goku and his moveset, you don't have to think nearly as much for certain things as you would have to do with other characters (rejumps, knockdowns, you get me). You can just mash on reaction. But that's just a theory, a *gAME THEO-*
Edit: still hate the guy tho. Haven't beaten a single one online.
Fr. These complainers don't understand that Ui goku deserves it
@@domtoretto5887 Oh, maybe I didn't get my point across. He definitely deserves the hate (the bastard has ruined my day once or twice). Thanks for pointing that out.
@@l3nis578 oh...
@@domtoretto5887 if u meant he deserves to be completely broken, you have a problem
@@mcswim565 bruh have you watched the anime. MUI was one of the most impactful and most powerful transformation in the anime. He deserves it. Plus it ain't like he's unbeatable
8:15 is Goku’s Real Anatomy
Whis: *Smacks tf outta GT Goku*
MUI Goku: “hold on, you not gonna treat my son like this”
You mean alternate version of younger version of yourself
Yea mui goku is the only one who can abuse gt goku
Proceeds to stare him out of existence
Literally thought I was watching a Shoyoumomo until the Ad ended. Great edits
that is high praise. there is so much stuff i see that fucker do where i'm like "BRO HOW DID YOU EVEN MAKE THIS EDIT AHHHHHH
I did briefly wonder if MoldyBagel was some sort of Shouyou alt for a moment.
i swear with these cutscenes he’s been creating, he should be brought into the actual fighterz dev team.
Legit
2:56 Ad ends.
Hey that's cheating
@@MoldyBagel (:
@@MoldyBagelno
1:45 For some reason, the backflip into Level 3 reminds me of Magnamalo from Monster Hunter. It always starts its desperation move by flipping backwards, then roaring and powering up. It helps that said DM consists of dashing all over the place, too.
Ginyu really was the biggest chad this video. The only one who attacked Ui Goku fearlessly, and was able to see his movements.
Ginyu is the ultimate chad.
You know you have to do an explanation video on why Ginyu is the ultimate chad.
1:34 Gt got nerfed out of existence
Goku UI: You arent Cannon
You forgot to add that every other player mained him for several months, so you didn't just deal with it occasionally, you dealt with it about half the time. UI wouldn't be as bad if you only dealt with him every say 10 or 15 matches.
that's cute that you wrote this in past tense like it isn't still the case
@@mrossknewe were hoping that would change but sadly no...and now thier also ssg4 all over the place too
(I'm not judging anyone who main these guys I'm just asking can u guys try someone else like Tein or Hit)
@@deyontemyers4109those 2 being the most hype stuff in the history of the franchise is not helping the situation
S tier characters: I fear no man, but that thing, "UI Goku", it scares me
I love that while everyone else gets either chased off or smacked down by UI but GT Goku just disintegrates in his very presence
Well yeah. UI Goku's very existence decanonizes GT Goku.
Honestly I still really like him. UI is my favorite form and everything he does just kinda leaves me like OH GOD HE'S COOL even if I'm on the receiving end. I'm a skill-less idiot though so maybe I just suck too bad to be phased by losing to a specific character.
he is mega intimidating
Honestly me too I just like the form lol
@@BlackRaceSaviorbro replied to a 2 year old comment to do a grammar correction lol
I got an ad right when goku landed LOL (1:08)
oh shit are there midroll ads on this?
@@MoldyBagel guess so
Oh, I got the ad too
7:38 when you do 2H in the ground then you delay a bit super dash then you delay light and do light again, then 2H forward air jump then light, you can do a air side switch.
I think it says a lot about UI that I really only pick him when I'm in a pure state of Coping And Seething™ and I just want to have easy games. I don't win more often with him than I do with my mains, but it's so so so so SO much easier.
Just tossing this out there: You could do a video on Roshi's leap and Kamehameha Boost, how it differs from Superdash, but especially how it compares to Videl's dodge in terms of being a character property that deviates from an otherwise-universal option (since Roshi's case seems to favor him more than Videl's favors her).
His Kamehame dash is soooo fucking fun for mix ups. Especially when you can get it down and can Kamehame-ha around the screen to reposition yourself.
The only thing I wish UI Goku had was the Echo filter on his voice, I know some of his voice lines have it but I wish it was more prominent
1:57 he's just walking *MENACINGLY*
Thank you. I’m not well versed in FighterZ so I never knew why everyone hated him
He's not op but he basically has everything a character needs in this game.
Command grab
Best defense
good projectiles
ez combos
good dmg
mixups
etc.
@@finnsen1771 he doesn't have good mixups
@@kemalerdemsahin410 That's what the pros said, until they got hit lol. But really, his "fake" shit is really good for wearing the opponent down and catching them off guard, especially since his normals are so goddamn ridiculous that he can basically mash autocombo and boom, you're back in the blockstring.
All this Kid Icarus: Uprising music in the background makes me really happy! Amazing work like always!
7:30
This is basically makes this character absolutely not playable against.
He's just can spam everything and he have literally every answer on every punish.
This is the deffinition of "broken".
No, there are solutions. I don't agree with a lot of stuff in the video,but his defense stuff is really strong but not super unfair.
@@flamescorpio5850 there ARE - BUT the massive list of options he can pull up makes YOU guess what his option is going to be and how to approach it. And you need to guess perfectly - because if you're not going to guess, it's YOU who's going to be punished.
@@SuperSaiyanDate no,if you lab enough you don't really have to guess,at least on wake up
@@flamescorpio5850 Yes you do have to guess, stupid argument
even now, his defense is pretty unmatched. the sheer amount of defensive options gives him a shit ton of flexibility to turn the whole game into his favor, even with the balance patches.
5:28 I still believe this is a reference to that Fist of the North Star Arc Sys Fighter
I always thought of UI being like Musou tensei
The intro was a work of art, as was the rest of the video. I guess Sol’s channeling UI Goku with his far slash.
Ha they do kinda look the same
@@MoldyBagel Ultra Instinct strives on reacting without thinking, which is perfect for the unga bunga god that is Sol.
in short: he has melee jigglypuff syndrome aka is a defensive character in a mostly aggressive game
yeah actually kinda similar
@@MoldyBagel ikr? hated for being a lame and defensive character in a hype and aggressive game
@@Tr0lliPop i mean im a puff hater just like anyone else. hate puff wayyyy more than ui. not an hbox hater though, that's some juvenile shit. i really don't enjoy watching puff the same way as other characters though.
@@MoldyBagel I mean, that's understandable. Puff is simply a lame character to play against and watch, it's probably objective at this point. the way that puff's playstyle revolves around camping you out really isn't fun for a lot of opponents and spectators. But it's still nice to have a few defensive characters here and there, even in mostly aggressive unga bunga games; because it can bring some variety to the way you play the game.
6:04 aged like milk
Why ?
4:17 Goku just want to be like his dad
Like Monke
Dead ?
8:09 Well.....Kefla can, you prolly should've added a Tiny Kefla in the background doing her Lvl 3 animation (and it's funny since they're released at a similar time and it fits narratively)
Well yeah but that actually makes sense. UI Goku just decides to teleport up to you
His also does way more damage tho to be fair.
“Why everyone hates UI Goku”
UI Goku proceeds to dodge Frieza’s death pizza’s on both attacks
Ultra Instinct is an godlike transformation that allows the user to move without needing to think - to have both the perfect offense and defense.
Which basically equates to 0IQ strong character.
4:22 I read it as "Enormous Fisting"
that probably says a lot about you.
i'm not kinkshaming though man
@@MoldyBagel lmfao the legend has replied
@@blazethegame nah, you just got called gay 💀
You frogot Ui lvl1 counter, can also counter assists; but if you crouch on your assist call; Ui will whiff the lvl1 counter, giving you a free punish. You spend 1 assist, Ui spend 1 bar to get punished~
8:09 Kefla can do that too
1:17 LMAO
Can't wait till Ultra Ego Vegeta comes and he just Touch of Death's everything.
I love the Kid Icarus Uprising soundtrack being put to work here! Pretty under rated soundtrack imo
I like how at 8:13 you pointed out that ui Goku’s stuff isn’t that relevant at high levels because players need to understand that the game is really at a good state rn. No characters are broken and everything is pretty balanced, only thing stopping you from punishing mashers that make characters feel annoying is the frame delay, knowledge of the game, or you’re a masher yourself 😃
Also most patch notes aren’t going to effect the majority of players either. They nerfed ui Goku pretty hard ngl but that didn’t stop ppl from running the same teams they did before
@@t-hug2597 expect cloud805 mans whole team got nuked
@@thinkofdacontent015 what was his team?
@@brokeboy3511 Kid Buu, UI, GT
@@th3pr0fil3 I don't remember any big recent kid buu buffs right? Goku after season 2 only thing changed was his assist right? The team must have been a monster tho.
The fact that Ginyu was able to follow Ultra instinct's movements proves that Ginyu is closer to Ui than many people think.
214H used to be even more powerful, could go past round start before it was nerfed. As for full invincible DP… SSJ4 Gogeta would like to say *hello.*
Ui goku can use secret sensation, and 2m him.
5:10, I think this is the best description for UI Goku I have ever found.
It kinda fits the character tough.
Ultra instinct is a busted defense machanims on DBS and its so hard to achive no GoD has masterd it but i do think the devs for DBFZ did a lack luster job at translating him at least he got his nerfs now so he isint super duper busted
@@pedrodecarvalho8605 yeah i agree on everything you said
@@pedrodecarvalho8605 "no GoD has ever mastered it"? Hard disagree. Beerus taking on several other Gods of Destruction at the same time in the exhibition and dodging them all perfectly shows he knows how to use Ultra Instinct just fine
@@dylancross1039 that my friend was Omen UI i havent seen the manga but ive heard somewhere that he he did lose to one other GoD im not sure this is what ive heard
I dont even play this game at that countered air dash at 3:20 made me go WTF?!
wow damn, gotta say, i reaaally like your light edits, they're so good
legit, edited videos has been so boring nowadays
filled with memes, your content is just what i need!
The most annoying thing before the nerfs was how safe he was on whiff or even if you blocked him. He was unpunishable.
Nice to see that someone appreciates the kid Icarus uprising ost
I mained him when I first got fighterz, I think people were happy to go up against a player who didn’t even know how to do rising heat lol.
God your quality production is always the best, keep it up
I love that the ost you used was all Kid Icarus Uprising
8:08 Kefla can do it too!
I mean yeah, that's the long-short of it. And that's coming from a guy who doesn't use UI seriously and instead screws around with the light and medium flips in unoptimal ways and still gets sent death threats just because it's UI.
I love the slick editing skill you show in every video
It's Ultra Instinct, that's why
I don't even play this game but because of the several youtubers I watch who do play, seeing UI Goku do UI Goku bs fills me with unfathomable rage
I get that these UI Goku pros are most definitely better than me in anyway, but it’s so sad knowing that talent that could go into more fun to watch characters like piccolo, trunks, or Majin Buu go into a cheap character like UI
@@CameronKujo what do you mean cause you make it seem like ui Goku isn’t fun to play with and he isn’t as broken as kid buu,baseku,base vegeta,android 21, and definitely not limit break sparkling z broly and trunks
All it is that ui goku has a lot of tools and more special moves that make him good
If you don’t play this game, how do you feel rage towards it
@@juninga1900 ong like MUI goku wasn’t overpowered but he is extremely easy for beginners to understand compared to someone like kid buu who is hard to play but once you master him he is top 3 in the game
Thank you UI Goku for spreading awareness on the importance of internet safety with Express VPN
7:56 that vegetas face got me lol
Your editing is so goofy and my style. Love this shit. The emphasis on things like **WHY** make your edits so great
Perfection as always.
:)
PERFECT CELL VIDEO?
As a filthy UI lover, I'm only liking this because of the amazing Kid Icarus: Uprising music.
Damn you.
Hey don’t worry, after the credits were done Hades said it would be 25 years until another Kid Icarus game would be made. So just 15 more years and we can listen to just as great soundtrack, if not greater, again. Uprising does have an amazing OST, my favourite would probably be Dark Pits theme, or Thunder Cloud Temple. Although I do love the first levels flight theme.
I just hope Nintendo doesn’t take the joke literally, run with it, and wait to release a sequel until 2037.
"DAMN YOU...!"
-cell probably
Can we just appreciate the syncs at 6:14 and 7:11 as well?
I appreciate that you sped up the combos
I haven't played this game yet but that is what ultra instinct is at least it's accurate, probably most definitely not fair but accurate. Basically everyone has to have one goku on their team so that if you fight a goku you'll have a goku with older instinct to fight against.
9:16 LMAO Vegeta on top of Frieza so good!
As a UI main, I'm here to say: All this shit is true.
Except 6:32 cuz I've used that as a DP so many times to punish overaggressive players during wakeup.
2:33 IS THIS WHAT I THINK IT IS??? LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
Omori Comic, Yoooo!
Can we appreciate not only the quality of this video but also the quality of the music?
I never expected to hear kid icarus uprising music on your videos, keep it up my man 👌
Thanks!
As a mid-high level dbfz player, I can definitely say his offensive abilities are just icing on the cake. If you’re ever mad about him just remember it’s the defensive shit that’s fucking dumb
Thank you for stressing that its not that he has wake up options, it's that u have to guess all of his 5. It's like an endless gamble, can't even play it safe because almost everything I do is risky on his wake up
You absolutely shouldn't be the one playing the guessing game after you knockdown your opponent. You should have advantage at that point but you don't because UI has so many options off wakeup that are safe unless you're expecting that specific wakeup.
Congrats on a 100k man
keep up the good work. :D
1:34 If the former best character of the last season got erased from existence by this man's presence alone then that must mean that no one in the roster stands a chance.
It's just this gt goku is sooooo weaker
@@fuckingking6796 literally
@@shinobukoko204 yeah
I just wanna say thanks to MoldyBagel for this very-well edited, very entertaining vid. (You sir deserve way more subs) Now I get why a lot or EVERYONE hates UI Goku.
I still love him. He's just being UI Goku that's all. 🤷♂️
This video released all my rage against this demon of a character. For now at least.
Congrats for the 100k!!!
B o n k
1:01
I was about to go to bed, but I can't wait to watch this lol
It’s crazy to me that 214H used to catch backdash, 22S was a full on DP, and the 2H and DHC Level 1 was totally safe
And he’s still probably Top 5 after the nerfs
Yeah he's bonkers
Hell nah not even top 7
Really appreciate the Kid Icarus music for this vid ❤️
Loving the video and the Kid Icarus uprising music. Hope there is a sequel to that game its been 9 years
I didn’t think we would need a video on why 𝕲𝕺𝕯 is hated so much
How tf do you make the font look like that that's badass
@@MoldyBagel you did it in the unnerfable kid buu video for goku ui
Short answer: Most characters in this game take skill. UI Goky is one of the characters that doesn't
2 now
Ayyyyyy Kid Buu and Broly are my favourite villains glad they’re S Tier.
Also I don’t play fighters mate but man you make these videos engaging so even someone who doesn’t understand can enjoy them; thanks!
Bonus fact about the auto combo: In a video made by Lythero in a battle against a UI Goku He got out of hitstun and then autocombo right off of it