Sure, if you discount bulldozing entire neighborhoods to build the Sam Baldock Freeway, Eastbank Freeway, Stadium Freeway, Sunset Freeway, Columbia River Freeway, Banfield Freeway, and especially the Minnesota Freeway, but also a lesser extent on the Beaverton-Tigard Freeway and the Columbia River Freeway. If anything traffic hasn't improved because the answer to too much car congestion has been to double down on adding car capacity, which has only moved the bottlenecks around.
In response to the comment below, this particular copy was from VHS footage purchased at the Spokane Portland and Seattle Railway Historical Society swap meet that is held yearly at the airport. It was in a box of tapes, which included other Portland traction topics. There was no attribution on the tape, nor anyway possible to ascertain its source. Asking around, I heard about it being retrieved from a dumpster. Obviously of historic importance, I decided to share it, with no financial gain.
@@Omegatide if you live in the countryside out by like Canby or in WA out towards snohomish i actually think most of them are still around. Just sitting next 6 more generations of farm vehicles.
Yeah, today's traffic, MUCH SAFER! And I agree, even though we were not born at that time, traffic was full of danger. Safer cars, safer traffic, less chances of casualties today.
This film was found by Portlander Rudy Zvarich and transferred by Gary Lacher. It was still perfectly preserved on 16mm, in this case Kodachrome. It is part of a series of studies from the late 1930's.
@@Mike-gt1cs Yes. Not so much if you're heading East on Sandy 0:25 building in top left corner is still there. Heading West on the right side all the buildings are still standing.
This is really cool thanks for this. Born in Eugene raised in Portland and got a family of my own now. Really great to get piece of it’s past to look at
They don't sleep or play with electronic toys when the light turns green. That intersection had a flashing light which was wrong, should've been a standard light.
Same way people find their car in a sea of generiboxes today. I find my pickup in a parking lot because it's one of the few pickups that has a full bed still on the road, and a pretty unique pattern to the clearcoat flaking off the hood.
john72ss there were no safety belts then. Far more fatal crashes per capita then than now. Why am I writing this at midnight. Anyway Ralph Nader helped fix that.
We have advanced so much in civil engineering and harmony with commuting. In this video vehicles almost ran into each other because the rules are not setup properly and or they were not followed correctly.
Harmony with commuting? Have you ever been to Portland? Portland and the Portland metro area are laid out like they hired dropouts from Underwater Basket Weaving programs as their civil engineers.
Here's what REALLY cracks me up: you see a flashing yellow light at both the 28th and 33rd intersections, which proved two things: (1) NOT a new idea; and (2) based on the traffic flow and the fact that people are making left turns from the far right lane (!), just as LOUSY an idea then as now.
So I was just writing down the streets today from the holly wood district a ride down Sandy all the way to about 29th but I go all through there thank you
My god, they drive like the Russians. Hard to believe it but you are totally on your own in that intersection. Blinking yellow? Proceed with abandon. If you want to cross, just stick your nose out into the main road and pray everyone will stop.
The majority of cars seem to be of mid-to-late 30's vintage. This is surprising considering that they were supposedly coming off of tough times then. What would the average age of the cars be today?
They aren't lying to you when they said cars were built to withstand 10-16 years then. The majority appear to be 1934-1938. A large majority however are 1927-1932.
So peaceful to watch, even with all the near-misses. It's nice to see a time where Portland traffic actually *moved*, w/ 2 lanes FOR CARS in each direction, a reasonable number of vehicles, and drivers who take some initiative (they're reckless, yes, but c'mon PDX--can't we find a happy medium?)
Inefficient as it was, at least people paid attention. I'm more surprised how little has changed in 79 years. I guess they turned on green and red and added some potholes.
Statistically speaking, in 1939 there was almost 10 times as many fatalities per distance traveled as there are currently. Of course, that's for the US, but I imagine Portland was similar.
Not to mention too.... It's just really a sign, or change in times. No real good lights, but they figured it out (as a driver). It didn't really seem like much road rage at all. Could you imagine that now? How UPSET everyone would be with that many close calls? It would be rampant road rage. Looks like back then, they just said.....Ehhhhh.
Totally agree. Traffic looks just as crazy and dangerous then as it does today. All this time I have been blaming Californian transplants... Did enjoy the video though. 👍
Trying to find historic pics of my building and the one next to mine. I'm in Milepost 5 in Montavila, across from the park. My building built in the 60s was a hospice and the one next to mine in the 30s retirement home, believe it was Baptist Manor. Contacted OHS no info. Any suggestions?
Said by somebody who has never lived in a different big city. Portland has some serious problems, parents have to help schools keep the grounds but you probably arent paying much attention to your neighbors to notice. I remember sharing books in my school, books held together with duct tape and glue. Tiles in the halls have brown on them from leaking ceilings, who knows about the mold problems. Property taxes , water and electric bills are insane forcing Renters to raise their rent. Homeless everywhere, i cleaned needles out of my yard. Its a shit hole.
Love how fast people are driving in those old relatively unsafe cars. Not like nowadays where everyone is afraid of everything. Shows how fast a person could get around before bike lanes, traffic calmers,and curb extensions, etc.
No designated turn lanes with no traffic lights to control traffic flow sure makes for a chaotic mess of traffic, there must have been lots of accidents back then
That flashing yellow is a great traffic idea. Flashing red, everybody stop. Flashing yellow, whatever. I haven't been on Sandy for about a year, but those intersections don't look too different today. Except all the colors work on the traffic lights.
That cameras advanced for 1939. Boxing was being aired in black and white at that time and it was one of the worlds biggest sports. They must really invest in surveillance.
Or just a more effective transportation system in general. Once you get to two lanes on a side, any additional lanes need to be turn lanes, or reserved for a specific mode or you're not getting any benefit, just moving the bottlenecks around. Not exactly seeing many options other than drive in this view.
Now there would be 100s of tents, mounds of trash everywhere, beaten to death cars waiting on dozens of pointless lights. Love to see the progress time brings
Some still don't. =\ From looking at it, there's also an issue of no traffic control. So far on the few vid's that I watched of PDX in '39, I've spotted only 1 traffic signal.
Slightly lower, not by a lot. The turns make it clear but they are not going slow here. Compare this to Chicagos lake shore drive where everyones blasting past at 70.
😳wow! Just watched the other old Portland restoration videos! This is insane! I have live just outside Portland my whole life and that Portland looks like a safer reality than the current one! Drug homicides, riots, graffiti, mass homelessness, human trafficking...
The last time they built a new road in the city
Sure, if you discount bulldozing entire neighborhoods to build the Sam Baldock Freeway, Eastbank Freeway, Stadium Freeway, Sunset Freeway, Columbia River Freeway, Banfield Freeway, and especially the Minnesota Freeway, but also a lesser extent on the Beaverton-Tigard Freeway and the Columbia River Freeway. If anything traffic hasn't improved because the answer to too much car congestion has been to double down on adding car capacity, which has only moved the bottlenecks around.
LOL 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Stupid wiseass. It was a different, far far better Portland. And you weren't in it.
O0:19 - looks like Portland drivers haven't changed much
yup and california, midwest drivers too
Haha, I was thinking the same thing.
Exactly. Lol that's hilarious
Debbie Jellinsky it’s true to some extent. The truth lies somewhere in between darkness and light. Shadowy light.
Yes
In response to the comment below, this particular copy was from VHS footage purchased at the Spokane Portland and Seattle Railway Historical Society swap meet that is held yearly at the airport. It was in a box of tapes, which included other Portland traction topics. There was no attribution on the tape, nor anyway possible to ascertain its source. Asking around, I heard about it being retrieved from a dumpster. Obviously of historic importance, I decided to share it, with no financial gain.
Thank you.
Wonderful-- thank you!!
🤗
Thanks man!
Wow the streets are so clean
As clean as moral those years.
How many near accidents just happened?
Not much. They didn't have cell phones in hand lol
Kevin I counted at least 7, could be more
now i see why there are not alot of these vehicles around any longer!!!!
@@Omegatide if you live in the countryside out by like Canby or in WA out towards snohomish i actually think most of them are still around. Just sitting next 6 more generations of farm vehicles.
Dude on the motorcycle 🏍 about died 💀
Awesome. That explains my dad's driving after all these years.
😂
I only counted 6 close calls in 75 seconds! The guy on the motorcycle is very brave
Looking at the past is very interesting, but traffic sure was much dangerous back in the day
Yeah, today's traffic, MUCH SAFER! And I agree, even though we were not born at that time, traffic was full of danger. Safer cars, safer traffic, less chances of casualties today.
Nope. Much worse these days.
Statistically speaking, you are about 10 times safer now as you were then.
This film was found by Portlander Rudy Zvarich and transferred by Gary Lacher. It was still perfectly preserved on 16mm, in this case Kodachrome. It is part of a series of studies from the late 1930's.
Weird I got recommended this. This is like a block from my house.
So weird to be able to see the past like this. Wow
Paul Gavrilin just shows how meaning less life most of this people must be dead and then accomplished not much what have I accomplished what about you
thisguy1 i am just imagine this is the era my great grandparents grew up in and grandparents. my great grandma was. POW in occupying Poland during ww2
How did they keep from running into each other. It looks like it could be mayhem at any moment.
People used to pay attention to the road.
There was an almost 10 times higher rate of traffic fatalities per mile at that time. People weren't that good at paying attention.
They edited out with the foresight we will be watching them 80 years later and marvel how civilize they were.
They sure had a lot of classic cars back then.
🤣😂😅😂🤣😂😅
I drove by there this morning coming back into the Laurelhurst neighborhood where I live. Thanks for sharing 👍
Was there anything left standing?
@@Mike-gt1cs Yes. Not so much if you're heading East on Sandy 0:25 building in top left corner is still there. Heading West on the right side all the buildings are still standing.
This is really cool thanks for this. Born in Eugene raised in Portland and got a family of my own now. Really great to get piece of it’s past to look at
I am fascinated by the old street markings, not too different, but still, not exactly what we've got today.
They don't sleep or play with electronic toys when the light turns green. That intersection had a flashing light which was wrong, should've been a standard light.
Thanks for sharing--I wish my dad were still around to see it.
How'd any one know which car was theirs? Seriously
LOL!
I thought the same. Kinda like good little sheeples (sheep + a person) then and now.
They didn't. They drove each other's car
Same way people find their car in a sea of generiboxes today. I find my pickup in a parking lot because it's one of the few pickups that has a full bed still on the road, and a pretty unique pattern to the clearcoat flaking off the hood.
Look who's talking. I recognize every model here.
Lived 3 blocks away for 9 years. Left that area in 2006. Its scary now
Holyshit not a fixie bike or a tattoo parlor anywhere in sight that's amazing!
Jonny Wishbone - haha or pot shop
And the economy and total number of dollars changing hands is the same now as it was then!
I have to admit though those drum brakes stop better than I thought they would
hey thanks for sharing an amazing piece of ordinary daily life in this beautiful city.....a long time ago:)
damn that tonic lounge building has been there forever!
😂😂😂 it's probably haunted...
It was built in 1849. Just kidding!
It's gone now, lost in 2021.
Dark place. Gone now
My neighborhood. So grateful for the stop lights now!!!
How's Greg?
no, its much worse now, there were no wrecks in this, because nobody was driving with cell phones!
john72ss there were no safety belts then. Far more fatal crashes per capita then than now. Why am I writing this at midnight. Anyway Ralph Nader helped fix that.
No there just bad drivers
We have advanced so much in civil engineering and harmony with commuting. In this video vehicles almost ran into each other because the rules are not setup properly and or they were not followed correctly.
Advanced? They've ruined the city of Portland.
Harmony with commuting? Have you ever been to Portland? Portland and the Portland metro area are laid out like they hired dropouts from Underwater Basket Weaving programs as their civil engineers.
Here's what REALLY cracks me up: you see a flashing yellow light at both the 28th and 33rd intersections, which proved two things: (1) NOT a new idea; and (2) based on the traffic flow and the fact that people are making left turns from the far right lane (!), just as LOUSY an idea then as now.
The driving practices back then seem so chaotic and stressful.
Sandy and 33rd looks like a nightmare
I live in Portland Oregon
I just work there
So I was just writing down the streets today from the holly wood district a ride down Sandy all the way to about 29th but I go all through there thank you
Almost 80 years ago and still to many people for my likes...
My god, they drive like the Russians. Hard to believe it but you are totally on your own in that intersection. Blinking yellow? Proceed with abandon. If you want to cross, just stick your nose out into the main road and pray everyone will stop.
They drive like first generation drivers.
The majority of cars seem to be of mid-to-late 30's vintage. This is surprising considering that they were supposedly coming off of tough times then. What would the average age of the cars be today?
They aren't lying to you when they said cars were built to withstand 10-16 years then. The majority appear to be 1934-1938. A large majority however are 1927-1932.
I see the way they drive hasn't changed.
So peaceful to watch, even with all the near-misses. It's nice to see a time where Portland traffic actually *moved*, w/ 2 lanes FOR CARS in each direction, a reasonable number of vehicles, and drivers who take some initiative (they're reckless, yes, but c'mon PDX--can't we find a happy medium?)
My grandpa was nine then , how times have changed
My grandpa was 27 and my grandma was 32. I wonder what they were like back then.
Sheesh....and I thought people in Portland were bad drivers in 2010!
Looking back in time awsome
People were more courteous then it seemed.
Mr Branch wishing the Best and Friendly Hellos.
Have an Excellent Day
But suddenly, we got bored looking at all of those clean streets and nice looking people, so we decided to spice things up a bit!
Drivers were so reckless in those days. No wonder traffic fatalities were so high.
Probably my grandpa there driving
You know, all that I was thinking about was that my mom was only 2 years old and my aunt wasn't born yet.
Makes me sad, when comparing it to the trash today.
Inefficient as it was, at least people paid attention. I'm more surprised how little has changed in 79 years. I guess they turned on green and red and added some potholes.
Statistically speaking, in 1939 there was almost 10 times as many fatalities per distance traveled as there are currently. Of course, that's for the US, but I imagine Portland was similar.
Not to mention too....
It's just really a sign, or change in times. No real good lights, but they figured it out (as a driver). It didn't really seem like much road rage at all.
Could you imagine that now?
How UPSET everyone would be with that many close calls? It would be rampant road rage.
Looks like back then, they just said.....Ehhhhh.
Totally agree. Traffic looks just as crazy and dangerous then as it does today. All this time I have been blaming Californian transplants...
Did enjoy the video though. 👍
Trying to find historic pics of my building and the one next to mine. I'm in Milepost 5 in Montavila, across from the park. My building built in the 60s was a hospice and the one next to mine in the 30s retirement home, believe it was Baptist Manor. Contacted OHS no info. Any suggestions?
Did traffic lights even work properly back then?
Ahhh how beautiful this is!
anyone saying negative stuff about portland in this comment section can be said about literally any other city tf?? all big cities are trash holes
Said by somebody who has never lived in a different big city. Portland has some serious problems, parents have to help schools keep the grounds but you probably arent paying much attention to your neighbors to notice. I remember sharing books in my school, books held together with duct tape and glue. Tiles in the halls have brown on them from leaking ceilings, who knows about the mold problems. Property taxes , water and electric bills are insane forcing Renters to raise their rent. Homeless everywhere, i cleaned needles out of my yard. Its a shit hole.
Saying Austin is a "sister city" to Portland is insulting to Austin.
Thanks for the great video. What great historical footage. Thank you for sharing this!
Where is all the Pink&Blue haired people at.
Not going to be born for at least another 50 years
Thankfully, Portland had a nice run before all the marxist undesirables showed up.
Three generations away
Tell me about it look at the city now it’s unrecognised sad
You guys glorify the past yet look how horrible and third world this driving is, also segregation was LEGAL at this time
Love how fast people are driving in those old relatively unsafe cars. Not like nowadays where everyone is afraid of everything. Shows how fast a person could get around before bike lanes, traffic calmers,and curb extensions, etc.
Makes me think of a Geico commercial.
This intersection is where WWII actually started.
Wow... They had the beat drop at the end of the song.
How is this area now? Looking at an apartment there on 29th and Sandy.
No designated turn lanes with no traffic lights to control traffic flow sure makes for a chaotic mess of traffic, there must have been lots of accidents back then
Why have a 3 light intersection if it's just going to blink yellow during the busiest part of the day??
Still looks the same. Many of those old buildings are still there.
Those roads look pristine !!!
calling all units...this is Eliot Ness
That flashing yellow is a great traffic idea.
Flashing red, everybody stop.
Flashing yellow, whatever.
I haven't been on Sandy for about a year, but those intersections don't look too different today. Except all the colors work on the traffic lights.
Seems like back then we were still learning to drive I wish I lived in this timeline
Happy to see Portland hasn't changed a bit.
That cameras advanced for 1939. Boxing was being aired in black and white at that time and it was one of the worlds biggest sports. They must really invest in surveillance.
They needed more lanes 80 years ago. This video is typical of what happens in Roseburg everyday.
Or just a more effective transportation system in general. Once you get to two lanes on a side, any additional lanes need to be turn lanes, or reserved for a specific mode or you're not getting any benefit, just moving the bottlenecks around. Not exactly seeing many options other than drive in this view.
Look how nice that pavement looks, no potholes!
Clearly, people’s driving skills were just as bad then in PDX.
Clearly they haven't fixed the roads since this was filmed. Lol
Steve O Get out of the left lane and don’t you dare tell me to go back where I came from, born and raised.
And gas was $.09 / gal.
*slow it down to 3/4 speed and it looks about right.
Now there would be 100s of tents, mounds of trash everywhere, beaten to death cars waiting on dozens of pointless lights. Love to see the progress time brings
What country is this?
Holy shit this is where I live
That music is nice :)
Some still don't. =\
From looking at it, there's also an issue of no traffic control. So far on the few vid's that I watched of PDX in '39, I've spotted only 1 traffic signal.
Wow! Great video. I'll remember this next time I'm frustrated with traffic light delays!
I see people still drive the same as back then.
Weird that I live in Portland... And to see this... I thought driving today was bad
Who’s seeing this in 2021
How did you get this video footage? Like the music 👍
In the first clip, that building on the right with the mexican-looking tiled roofline looks like its still there, as of 2020.
Those cars are all so pretty!!!
Look at 33rd and Sandy now and you'll find a Standard TV & Appliance store, a Jiffy Lube, Full Life disability and support center, and a Plaid Pantry
That is some crazy driving. That traffic light is useless.
What were this films a part of initially?
Wow, where’d you get this footage?
Well traffic hasn't changed much in Portland
Lived there 7-14 yo haha this kind of stuff is neato
I don't think they are going as fast as the seem to be. Modern video runs at 24 frames per second and this was probably shot at a lower speed.
Slightly lower, not by a lot. The turns make it clear but they are not going slow here. Compare this to Chicagos lake shore drive where everyones blasting past at 70.
A livestream of Portland traffic would look like this if viewed on exoplanet HD156668b
Awesome! Thanx!
And not one accident 😂
This is the fuckin street I grew up on
I'm glad you survived those drivers
What happened to all those cool cars?
😳wow! Just watched the other old Portland restoration videos! This is insane! I have live just outside Portland my whole life and that Portland looks like a safer reality than the current one! Drug homicides, riots, graffiti, mass homelessness, human trafficking...
Cars may differ. Driving is same.
Citizen's Photo still there!
Back in the old days before anti-lock brakes, seatbelts, safety glasses when they believed the bigger the car is the safer it was
Excellent