I appreciate the lack of romantic implications between the two. Friendship has been a thing that has really fallen by the wayside in media where now two characters can't simply be friends. While I appreciate a romance story told well I think media has been missing these solid friendships for a while now instead favouring to pair up every character.
While I love the passion, and idea behind making one of the Gorgons the source of the deck, I am confused by the confusing mixing up for Medusa and Euryale, while they were sisters, they were Gorgons, not Medusa, Medusa was just the name of one of the sisters, the one who would later in Roman myth get an even more tragic tale than the one she got in Greek, certainly. But, not everything needs an explanation, or a source, part of what makes many of the things in older D&D lore great, is that they do not *have* a source, or an explanation. The Deck of Many things, very much was like that. I do hope, that this "source" is like the other sources, and one of the many "some people say" or other imperfection narrator style sources, that will do much more to enrich, than an explanation for something's origin, that was....more interesting by not *having* an explanation.
In D&D, a “medusa” is a member of the species with snakes for hair that resembles the Greek Gorgons. A “gorgon” is a species of mechanical cattle resembling a Greek Khalkotauroi.
Rolandais is talking about the mythological origin of Medusa. In Greek Myths, Medusa is the name of a Gorgon (species), and one of three Gorgon sisters, and curiously the only one who was mortal. She is the one who was killed by Perseus. The thing being pointed out, is the decision of D&D here choosing to highlight the Roman tale of Medusa (written by Ovid), rather than her more ancient, Greek origins. Where Ovid makes her a tragic victim of Neptune's assault, and Minerva's uncharacteristic wrath (which turned her into a Gorgon, where before she was human), whereas in the Greek tales she is *just* a monster of the Gorgon species. One of the other three Gorgon sisters was named Euryale, and is the name they're giving to this "Medusa". If I were to guess, Rolandais is criticising the breaking and bending of the original myths, and the way they pick and choose which parts to represent where and how.
@@gtmartinez97 You mean Gorgons, Medusa, Euryale and Stheno, were the three Gorgon Sisters, with snakes for hair, I get that Medusa is an icon, not just for women who have survived assaults and worse, but also as a feminist icon for those who take their lives in their own hands, to fight for power, or to take it back when it has been robbed from them, part of that is why I love the passion and idea of making Euryale tied to it. But, as my original point is, I guess. This feels...Well, it feels like a conceptual misunderstanding of what...makes the deck of many things, what it is. It feels like something they could've actually done something great with, rather than something that feels like it was tacked on to something, rather than being something that was brought to D&D and the greater cosmology and backdrop as a whole, while also taking away from people's opportunity to...fill in blanks. Not everything in D&D needs to be explained, and sometimes, part of what makes specific things in D&D interesting in the first place, is...that they aren't explained. The Deck of Many things, has always been one of those things, Ring of Three Wishes, Lady of Pain, Origin of the Multiverse, etc. The unreliable narrator path, is one of the many things that allows people to...explore this game, and cosmos, so, my hope is, that this book will take that approach with this, and if it doesn't, well, that is an overall loss, not a gain.
@@tootsmcdunno5244 yes I know andthat's obvious. However one still exists that makes the magic item itself a little less mysterious. It's still in the back of my head.
@@tootsmcdunno5244 i enjoy the deck in the vain of Cuthulu. That it's a human to an ant similar relationship. Besides this books existence is odd. I don't think it even cracks 200 pgs. And don't worry I know I don't have to buy it
@@ClaireNighten I recall watching a Goodman Games DnD session. As soon as one of them described themselves as a prepubescent girl with a magic doll or something (irl a 50-something guy), I was done. I have no problem seeing players running characters with a little flair, but that was well outside the ballpark.
The good thing is that they can never ruin it for you and your table. Also this feels like such a worthless vanity product that I doubt many people would bother paying for it.
I appreciate the lack of romantic implications between the two. Friendship has been a thing that has really fallen by the wayside in media where now two characters can't simply be friends.
While I appreciate a romance story told well I think media has been missing these solid friendships for a while now instead favouring to pair up every character.
I look forward to seeing this unique take on a famous magic item from DnD.
just gals being 'sisters in all but blood' pals defying fate across time and space
I really liked how they made the story relatable and tied a personal connection to the book. 👍
Good friends. Roomates even.
Honestly I really like those two. Their relationship just feel so sweet and wholesome.
I'm really excited for this!
As someone who has autism, I love Asteria a lot. I can’t wait to read about her ^^
@@thatguy846can't wait* to read :)
@@thatguy846 haha whoops forgot a wait xD thanks for pointing that out
While I love the passion, and idea behind making one of the Gorgons the source of the deck, I am confused by the confusing mixing up for Medusa and Euryale, while they were sisters, they were Gorgons, not Medusa, Medusa was just the name of one of the sisters, the one who would later in Roman myth get an even more tragic tale than the one she got in Greek, certainly.
But, not everything needs an explanation, or a source, part of what makes many of the things in older D&D lore great, is that they do not *have* a source, or an explanation. The Deck of Many things, very much was like that. I do hope, that this "source" is like the other sources, and one of the many "some people say" or other imperfection narrator style sources, that will do much more to enrich, than an explanation for something's origin, that was....more interesting by not *having* an explanation.
Well you see there are two monsters called Gorgon, so Medusa is used as the name of... Medusas...And Gorgon is for the other monster.
I see what you mean, but this isn't IRL Medusa. This is just a character that's inspired by IRL Medusa.
In D&D, a “medusa” is a member of the species with snakes for hair that resembles the Greek Gorgons. A “gorgon” is a species of mechanical cattle resembling a Greek Khalkotauroi.
Rolandais is talking about the mythological origin of Medusa. In Greek Myths, Medusa is the name of a Gorgon (species), and one of three Gorgon sisters, and curiously the only one who was mortal. She is the one who was killed by Perseus.
The thing being pointed out, is the decision of D&D here choosing to highlight the Roman tale of Medusa (written by Ovid), rather than her more ancient, Greek origins. Where Ovid makes her a tragic victim of Neptune's assault, and Minerva's uncharacteristic wrath (which turned her into a Gorgon, where before she was human), whereas in the Greek tales she is *just* a monster of the Gorgon species.
One of the other three Gorgon sisters was named Euryale, and is the name they're giving to this "Medusa". If I were to guess, Rolandais is criticising the breaking and bending of the original myths, and the way they pick and choose which parts to represent where and how.
@@gtmartinez97 You mean Gorgons, Medusa, Euryale and Stheno, were the three Gorgon Sisters, with snakes for hair, I get that Medusa is an icon, not just for women who have survived assaults and worse, but also as a feminist icon for those who take their lives in their own hands, to fight for power, or to take it back when it has been robbed from them, part of that is why I love the passion and idea of making Euryale tied to it.
But, as my original point is, I guess. This feels...Well, it feels like a conceptual misunderstanding of what...makes the deck of many things, what it is. It feels like something they could've actually done something great with, rather than something that feels like it was tacked on to something, rather than being something that was brought to D&D and the greater cosmology and backdrop as a whole, while also taking away from people's opportunity to...fill in blanks.
Not everything in D&D needs to be explained, and sometimes, part of what makes specific things in D&D interesting in the first place, is...that they aren't explained. The Deck of Many things, has always been one of those things, Ring of Three Wishes, Lady of Pain, Origin of the Multiverse, etc. The unreliable narrator path, is one of the many things that allows people to...explore this game, and cosmos, so, my hope is, that this book will take that approach with this, and if it doesn't, well, that is an overall loss, not a gain.
Neat! The origin of the deck of many things!!!
0:17 It’s pronounced "howizard".
I dont want an origin... that's like the point.
Nobody forces you to use it.
Lore and "canon" are not rules. If you don't want an origin in your campaign, you're free to not have one.
@@tootsmcdunno5244 yes I know andthat's obvious. However one still exists that makes the magic item itself a little less mysterious. It's still in the back of my head.
I agree. It breaks the magic. It reveals the unopened mystery box.
@@tootsmcdunno5244 i enjoy the deck in the vain of Cuthulu. That it's a human to an ant similar relationship. Besides this books existence is odd. I don't think it even cracks 200 pgs. And don't worry I know I don't have to buy it
The best thing about deck of many things is that it didn't have an origin. And now it does. It's a weird choice for so many reasons.
And they are also saying it still doesnt have an origin despite clearly giving it an origin...
yaaaaay trys falcone!!! legend!
Just sounds like bad fan fiction.
Wait till you hear how dnd is played. I mean, there’s so many OCs in there it’s absolutely unplayable
@@ClaireNighten I recall watching a Goodman Games DnD session. As soon as one of them described themselves as a prepubescent girl with a magic doll or something (irl a 50-something guy), I was done. I have no problem seeing players running characters with a little flair, but that was well outside the ballpark.
Sounds like they ruined the deck of many things
The good thing is that they can never ruin it for you and your table. Also this feels like such a worthless vanity product that I doubt many people would bother paying for it.
@@Melantrist I was genuinely interested but the price point and more than comes out about it made me change my mind