@@TheTimeSaga shohei ohtani is a baseball player on the Angels known for being an incredible batter and pitcher. Many consider him one of the all-time great players already
Unironically having watched HIMYM has bridged the millennial a bit. A lot of NL's references only click cause I remember looking them up when watching the show
@@bigrig2008 Mine has a clear door so it's obvious. But also, the salesman shoulda said to leave it open when you bought it tbh, if you're used to top-loaders that don't need the door left open.
My girlfriend's dad is 60 and is dating someone her own age (24) and she's obviously kind of uncomfortable with it. Then her dad tried to call her a hypocrite because we have an age gap too (I'm 29 and she's 24), but I feel like an age gap of 5 years is in a completely different ballpark to an age gap of 35 years. But maybe that's just copium
Lmao when your girlfriend was born you would’ve just started primary school compared to when his girlfriend was born he could’ve gone through the entire schooling system twice over
@@simonblackwell3576 Yeah, or like his girlfriend is probably basically at the start of her career while he is already retired. Definitely at very different places in their lives.
I agree. I'm 25, now when I even interact with someone's younger brother, like an 18 year old worrying about his high school 3rd year finals, I think to myself, "aww, you'll be okay kiddo". They have no real work experience yet, excited about college. Even if our values aligned, I just see him as a good kid. So when 50 year old's hit on me, it's just icky. Brother, I've haven't been divorced with a child and had my savings lost to my first business venture yet, I still hate coffee and alcohol. I have nothing to say to you. You have lived my entire life, TWICE. THAT IS SUCH A LONG TIME.
You're 25 and hate coffee and alcohol? Brother you should be more worried about relating to people your age with shit like that. Also fyi time speeds up faster as you get older. So the time between 25 and 50 will be much faster than the first 25 years of your life. Don't worry too much about it...
If you're 25 and still hate coffee and alcohol, you'll probably never like it. Which is fine btw, but don't expect your taste to magically change when you turn 35. The only way you could start liking it is if you force yourself to drink it (every taste except sugar is an acquired taste). But that's true at any age
I have no interest in dating a 19 year old, but I think that a lot of arguments on age gaps are kind of circular. An argument could be made that the lack of common ground across ages even for friendships is a long term *consequence* of cultural age segregation, not some common-sense argument for why it should exist. I'm an elder millennial with some much older Gen X siblings, and the ability to form meaningful friendships across a 10 or 20 year gap is literally just a socialization issue.
It's also just weirdly specific. Like people have different experiences for a variety of reasons, it doesn't mean they can't just enjoy each other's presence as people and have a bond. You've got friends from different countries, friends from different economic backgrounds, friends who have struggled and friends who have not. These are hurdles nobody denies that, but just because something is a hurdle doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be overcome. It's the mindset of "if it's going to fail why do it anyway" but doesn't the same just go for life. Like okay well I'm gonna die anyway and all my friends will die anyway so should I just not bother having any relationships? Life is fleeting and relationships more so, just because it's likely to end doesn't mean it shouldn't be pursued. I find it weird if someone is like " I NEED a 20 year old partner" because maybe you have some odd motivations, but if you just so happened to have an age difference, you shouldn't HAVE to say no. If it makes you personally uncomfortable that's fine, it's just odd to then dictate that to other people when I'm sure they have other reasons to not date someone that you wouldn't personally agree with. Friendly advice is fine, like "hey this isn't likely to work out so generally avoid this" but having a whole moral outcry about it is just too much.
Also people massively overestimate how hard it is to make a connection with someone of a different age group. I'm 24, back when I was 21 I worked with a 45 y-o. Most of our work was done in clients house so we'd spend 40 hours a week either at someone's house or in a truck together. Eventually you figure out things you have in common and their interest will rub off on you to some extent (and vice-versa). People assume it's close to impossible to make a friendship/relationship with someone in a different age group because they barely ever go past first meeting with someone of a different age group.
@@Jet-ij9zci don't believe it is overestimated, it's considered uncommon because *it is* Unless there is some foundational connection between the people involved, friendship let alone romance is unlikely. Given none of that, 3 guesses why an age-gap relationship exists
Yeah, people fresh out of high school haven't really spent enough time in the 'real world' yet and often haven't really found themselves yet. Can very clearly feel when someone is still in the highschool mindset. When someone cares way too much about what other people think and things like clout and popularity. Have to be in the working world for some number of years for the nihilism to seep into your soul so you can become relatable to adults.
@Tehpwnzmean1 that's misquoted btw. The thing about the frontal lobe finishing development at 25 is false. Initially they thought it would finish earlier then that, then it went on a lot longer than expected and by the time the participants reached 25 they stopped the study and concluded that it probably never stops developing and that it wasn't worth the effort (or money) to make sure
People in general have different world experiences and most relationships fail. I don't really see the problem if they're two consenting adults. It's not my business. I do agree that a huge age disparity probably makes a relationship more likely to fail on average, but you could say that for a number of other things people don't want to even consider. This one is just easy to dunk on for obvious reasons.
My dude *everybody has different life experiences*. Follow this logic through, should people of different races not date each other because they have different life experiences? If it's consenting then it's nobody's place to judge.
@@nyarlathotep1223 i'll judge all i want lol, age disparity is much more significant than cultural or racial disparity. 90% of relationships with a massive age disparity are superficial by nature.
@@bluedeluge5961nl asked something like “why would you even want to date someone way way younger than you, seems like it wouldn’t even be a good reletionship”. I think the answer to that question is what these ppl don’t want to think about… it’s usually something pretty gross like control in my experience
I mean I'm only 26 but like the only thing I'd say is as long as it's not like you're triple their age and you're both adults it's not that weird as long as you get along. Because people do be out here acting like everyone could reasonably have had a kid at 18-25, and not everyone is cut out for that. Some people took longer to mature and get their shit together. They could be more in tune with their with someone in their 20s than someone their own age. It's not as simple as number different bad. Honestly, as long as everyone is happy and it's not like grooming or anything, even if I think it's weird, I hesitate to fault people because everyone values different things, and it's up to everyone to find their own happiness.
It's "weird" in the sense that someone walking by such a couple might give an offhand negative opinion to the person next to them and never think about it again, but that's not where we are heading culturally at this point; there are people who literally think that a man in his 30s/40s dating a woman in her early 20s is a "groomer," arguing that because brains max out their development at 25, the early 20s woman can't consent. I'm not gonna go to bat for 40+ year old men dating 18/19 year olds, nearly everyone can agree on that, but the cultural argument has shifted considerably. I'm sorry, but if you think that anyone under 25 can't consent, your opinion shouldn't be taken seriously.
I mean by the time my grandpa was 25 he was a married veteran of WW2 with two children so I would dare to say he had some level of life experience by then
My opinion is if you're 25 or over, you're an adult and you're fully capable of making your own decisions. Before that, dating someone twice your age or more is a bit questionable on their part. That goes quadruple if you're like 17 or whatever, that's just disturbing (but not illegal where I live).
If you're basing the 25 on frontal lobe development, sorry to break it to you but that's false. 25 y-o is when they stopped the study and concluded it probably never stop developing, not when it stops
@@Jet-ij9zc There is no hard basis for norms people impose. They're a result of what they know, and what they've experienced, which doesn't cover everything. Most people aren't exactly polymath types. "25 is an adult, fully responsible" is a "what society expects of you" type of judgment, it's usually not inspired by any biological, psychological or neurological knowledge. If it were, it'd be something like "a particular 25 year old has the capacities and deficiencies they've developed".
@@Lavender_enjoyer1st, my comment literally says "if you're basing the 25 on...". It's not an assumption it's a statement in regards to a possibility. Key word, "IF" 2nd: The 25 comes from a study from a decade or so ago and it is very very frequently used erroneously online whenever the topic comes up. Had they used any age other than 25 or a more generic term like mid 20s, then maybe they were talking about life experiences. But since they said 25 years old explicitly, we'll I think it's reasonable to assume they were talking about brain development. But again, I did not even make that assumption. I wrote "if"
Bro is a biologist and lacks awareness that mold grows inside dark damp places. Leaving the door open after a wash lets the moisture evaporate so the mold doesn’t grow.
I think the main thing is incompatibilities- Ive dated women like 9 years younger and they’re interested in stuff I couldn’t care less about like TikTok, their sleep schedule is the opposite of mine, priorities are kind of fucked, even if we get along fine, their friends could be weird to meet with and hard to relate to, meeting the parents is a particularly nerve racking thought. Tbf all of this could happen with someone the same age as me. I guess I don’t care who people get with.
I'm in my early 30's and cannot imagine dating someone in their early 20's or younger. Aside from anything problematic, I just can't see myself having much in common with anyone that much younger
In love with a +15y woman, I never had any issue, treasured every conversation and every activity and moment together, but she eventually started to feel more and more uncomfortable, and guilty, until my presence became more a source of discomfort then one of joy. I couldn't change that and I couldn't convince her. I miss her a lot but it is what it is.
I'm 24 and I'm exclusively attracted to dudes who are 60+. It's not like the exact age that matters, but I'm into the look of older guys and I like the idea of their greater world experience. I get that it's weird. I have a wonderful dad and have no issues there. But the people I am dating are older than him. I am not really romantic and I doubt I'll get married to anyone, but I've had a lot of fun hookups. I am very independent and I am sensitive to potential for a power difference to lead to an abusive situation, it can happen without an age difference but I feel like the risk is higher with one. I've been careful and will continue to be. I've talked about how it feels from the other end as well with some of the guys - a lot of them say it makes them feel younger, they remember their own early sexual exploration at a time when it was somewhere between illegal and taboo. They like it, I like it. I also know that there's a surprisingly large (albeit still relatively small) number of people like me. If it grosses you out then just don't think about it. People have their own sexual preferences, if it doesn't hurt anyone then let it be. I'm 24 hours late to this video so most people who are going to watch probably already have, but feel free to ask any questions and I'll answer to the best of my ability. I'm not shy
@@revolversnake126 Ok so there are two dimensions to this for me. I'll start with the non-sexual one: the age gap itself. This is pretty simple - in pretty much every culture there's an idea of "respect your elders" - basically people who are older than you 1. Have wisdom and 2. Have valuable lived experience, and have earned some degree of respect, or at least should be listened to. Whether or not you agree with that in the general case (respect should always be earned, etc) the fact remains that most younger people (including myself) apply this to most older people, at least the ones whose beliefs generally already line up with our own. That puts a power dynamic in place in one way. The other dimension is sexually motivated. I am fiercely independent, but in the bedroom I enjoy being more submissive. You can use your imagination here, but generally acting this way with newly met people is on the more dangerous side of hooking up, especially considering the prevalence of dating apps where this information is present from the start, was probably involved in it being a match, and some sexual talk that can involve that may happen prior to meeting
The first part is why i was surprised that NLSS was hanging out with Chiblee when he was like 15 and they were like 27. Not that its ILLEGAL but what did they talk about? 😭
@@TheLibraryofLetourneau What is the song clip at the beginning of the backing track from? Just before Pony kicks in. It's super familiar but I can't place it...
There's listening, then there's understanding, then there's understanding enough to disagree, and then there's being knowledgeable enough to disagree and be right enough to sway opinions, and then there's knowing exactly what there going to say before they say it. And on the most obscure thing, like the difference between induction stoves vs. Gas stoves. Sure, there's intelligent and well rounded young people who are great conversationists, and old people who are just up their ass and ageist. But on induction cooking vs. gas stoves? I was an intelligent and well rounded kid at 19, and I wouldn't have cared in the slightest, and now at 28 I'm legitimately into it. Granted I'm autistic, but I'm sure that there has to be a nuerotypical equivalent.
@@nirvit1932 Yeah this bit is pretty funny now that enelle spends like 2 hours a day reading twitter brainrot. He's got more he can talk about with the average 19 year old than the average 35 year old...
Being a teenager and listening to a 35-year-old streamer is different from a teenager dating someone who could be a decade older than some of their teachers
Looking through the comments, I feel like I'm reading posts from conservatives arguing why people should not pursue same sex relationships, or why women shouldn't have too many partners. Why would you care what consenting adults do between themselves?
People are simply pointing out differences in maturity and experience can be a big hurdle in making a relationship work, and can also create a skewed power dynamic. I don't see any condemnation or bad faith arguments. In fact, conservatives are the ones generally who want to move that needle closer to normalizing teen women being involved with older men
Not in the least bit problematic! Librarian is this dashing your dreams of having interesting conversations with NL? Maybe you're his Michael Jordon :D
I'd be interested in looking at a realistic poll of how many men would celebrate men dating older women vs women celebrating women dating older men. Edit: I think it would be closer to 50:50, so long as "normal" counts as "celebratory"
It's gotta be an ego thing. Find yourself someone without enough life experience to see your flaws, and let them put you on a pedestal. Some people want to be surrounded by that. Also, not every 50yo has gotten themselves mentally to 50, and not in an "only as young as I think I am" kinda way.
Current NL is way too normal, he's aged into the most normal microcelebrity. There might be something in the isaac mines that somebody could dredge up though.
He doesn't engage in wrongthink, how could he possibly ever be cancelled? Also, Kramer guy literally went on a racist tirade, that's the opposite of a tepid and inoffensive take...
I’m not sure I would consider the statements of Kramer’s actor to be tepid and inoffensive. That being said, I think getting “Cancelled” has about as much to do with initial popularity as it does the severity of the action. Plenty of political and social leaders have said and even done far worse, only to get defended by their group to an extent that they don’t really lose any support at all. I think if NL did get in trouble for whatever reason a decade down the road he’d have a lot more defenders than attackers.
I am guessing he attracted Soy viewers a long time ago. So he is very careful with his words. If he says something chat doesn't like he says something similar but opposite to win them back.
Relationships are a two-way street. I’d argue that in many age gap relationships, the maturity problem doesn’t really rest with the younger partner; the older partner may have some issues connecting with their own generation and is gravitating towards a younger partner because of that. This certainly doesn’t make it OK though, and there’s a lot to consider. Even dating something only a few years younger than you leads to some pretty huge gaps. In the last four years, such an insane amount of things have changed for people in high school and college that if I dated anyone who never went through that, I feel like we’d have a huge experience gap.
Mate, 99.999% of the time the older parter dates someone much younger due to sexual attraction. You know that, I know that, literally everyone knows that
Sure, you can temporarily appeal to those younger than you, but lets not act like any of us would have a good longterm relationship with NL. We are fans, not his buddies
@@jamesmccomb9525 It's also the answer, though. NL keeps making the point that you can't have meaningful conversations in a relationship with an age gap where most of the time that's clearly not what anyone is looking for.
I'm 24 and have always been told I have an old soul. Part of it may be my difficulties with tech (never have owned a computer) and everyone in my age group annoys me lol. I have a feeling that my wife may end up being a few years older than me
I liked older women when I was young. As you tend to get older, you realize platonic relationships are way underrated when your young, and romantic relationships are overrated. Not that there's anything wrong with doing you, but even if your successful, your not as content as you'd think you'd be, while even people who are half assing platonic relationships seem to be having a better experience. And this goes for Irl dating, having as much sex as you want, no stress of marriage or kids, doing pretty well in looks and not hooking up with aholes. And a lot of people's experiences aren't that. The fact of the matter is that for most people, platonic relationships have both a higher floor and a higher ceiling, are more varied and dependable. There's nothing wrong with liking what you like, but dating and hooking up are two different things.
Last year I dated a 19 year old as a 25 year old. This was already a terrible idea. Should have turned around at the red flag that she didn't mind my age and would have liked if I was older. So for dane cook to have started talking to a 19 year old when he was 45? Absolutely insane. You do not want to date the kind of 19 year old that wants a middle aged man
I would not want to join any club that would accept me as a member type of thing is very true here. If you're 18-19 dating some guy older than 21 I would not want to be either person there
@@radioatlast let's talk about majority, the majority of Middle aged men have no problem fucking a 19-28 year old. And they shouldn't. That's more restriction to the 19-28 year old. Not needed. Most men would be very happy to "date" a beauty 20 year old, regardless of intent.
I just think of the average 20 yo guy living like a rat with no money, and the average 20 yo woman who just came out of her "everyone hates me" teen depression phase and still thinks beauty is a personality trait. Yeah im 32 and I'm not excited.
wow i was expecting something not based to happen. i was wrong. this is problematic only in the way i feel like nl invaded my thoughts and used them to make this whole diatribe
I think NL needs to speak to someone about his obsession with age. There are so many clips and videos of him hyperobsessing over age. I’m in my 20s and i talk to people in their 30s, 40s all the time and am fully able to carry out a conversation. I know this vid is like over a year old but it’s just crazy how often he’s talking about ages 💀
I just really don't care what other people do with their lives. As long as it's not a minor I don't care if one person is 18 and the other 80. Well... as long as both are in the relationship of their own free will. If so... none of my business. Personally though... I do a + or - 10 years.
What about passport bros? Do you consider it gross for someone who's 30ish to go to a country with a lower age of consent to sleep with someone who would be a minor in their own country? After all, its perfectly legal. This is why, to me, you arent a proper adult until your brain finishes developing at 25
I'm seeing a ton of ~20 yr olds pretending to have life experience because they know things from watching youtube. I'm also seeing a smaller fraction of creeps who are probably 30-35 and making arguments that boil down to "age is just a number" and "mind your own business". Very very few people actually making solid arguments based on actual experience. Either way, most of yall are just proving NL's point...
They are adults legally, I personally don’t believe you’ve reached physical maturity till 25 (when the prefrontal cortex in the brain is one of the last things to fully mature and is arguably one of the things that makes you the most “adult”) That being said - if I were say 40 and had an opportunity to have a relationship with a 25 year old would I? No, they are an adult, but I’d still be anxious that I was taking advantage of them through potentially greater experiences - do I think a 15 year age gap is never okay under any circumstances? I think 99 times out of 100, it’s probably not ethically appropriate unless you’re both 50+
My favourite NL bit is when he starts to confuse himself, but keeps going to chase the dizzying highs of the +2s in chat
I thought +2 was like a twitch rp meme, I don't understand it in context of NL's stream
@@mikec2845bit good = +2. Bit bad = -2.
@@FelixVonGriz oh ok I kind of inferred that, but none of his bits seemed good enough for it to make sense 😌
@@mikec2845-2
@@Womba_ +2
"tomo bite the ethernet cable" classic
"you think Dane Cook's dating the Shohei Ohtani of 23 year olds??" is great
This one sent me
All time line by him
I don’t get it
@@TheTimeSaga shohei ohtani is a baseball player on the Angels known for being an incredible batter and pitcher. Many consider him one of the all-time great players already
5:25
“This is fucked! (Good for her) but this is fucked!”
+2
@@almostblank4025"imagine if he said the opposite of what he said"
@@lafiki999yes. Correct
@@lafiki999imagine if ninja got a low taper fade
@@teddycooke8723 imagine these nuts owned
@@teddycooke8723still massive
NL is right, a 23 year old wouldn't understand ancient references like "Barney Stinson's Bro Code"
Unironically having watched HIMYM has bridged the millennial a bit. A lot of NL's references only click cause I remember looking them up when watching the show
It's going to be LEGENDARY
@@RobotnikPlngas you didnt make me wait for it, its so much more fun when its legend- wait for it- dary!
I’m 23 and loved HIMYM 😭
@@amiracle3390 Was kinda nice when it aired but I would never ever rewatch it. It's a mediocre show with a disgusting laugh track.
This shit feels longer than 9 minutes, man, like the relationship between a 50 years old dude and their 19 years old wife
+2
Goals
She's right about the washing machine door, keep it open so you dont get mold and stuff
Yeah, it never even occured to me to close it. It's so damp!
the man only has a biology degree, what do you expect?
i never even thought about that i always just left it open so others know that theres nothing in it lol
@@bigrig2008 Mine has a clear door so it's obvious. But also, the salesman shoulda said to leave it open when you bought it tbh, if you're used to top-loaders that don't need the door left open.
Ok but for like how long? An hour? 2 hours?
"Brother...Tell me something I don't know. But also, You betrayed me" I almost spit out my drink 😂
"the shohei otani of 23 year olds" is unbelievable
Just call me Ryan "Idk what im sayin, but Im gettin a lotta +2s!" Letourneau
misandry 3000 is already funny enough on its own to make me laugh and could easily be expanded to a larger bit
+2
My girlfriend's dad is 60 and is dating someone her own age (24) and she's obviously kind of uncomfortable with it. Then her dad tried to call her a hypocrite because we have an age gap too (I'm 29 and she's 24), but I feel like an age gap of 5 years is in a completely different ballpark to an age gap of 35 years. But maybe that's just copium
Lmao when your girlfriend was born you would’ve just started primary school compared to when his girlfriend was born he could’ve gone through the entire schooling system twice over
@@simonblackwell3576 Yeah, or like his girlfriend is probably basically at the start of her career while he is already retired. Definitely at very different places in their lives.
After your mid 20s, there has to be a 10 year difference for it to be an age gap relationship
Yeah I'm just gonna go ahead and say no, this isn't copium
sounds more like he's busting balls
I agree. I'm 25, now when I even interact with someone's younger brother, like an 18 year old worrying about his high school 3rd year finals, I think to myself, "aww, you'll be okay kiddo". They have no real work experience yet, excited about college. Even if our values aligned, I just see him as a good kid. So when 50 year old's hit on me, it's just icky.
Brother, I've haven't been divorced with a child and had my savings lost to my first business venture yet, I still hate coffee and alcohol. I have nothing to say to you. You have lived my entire life, TWICE. THAT IS SUCH A LONG TIME.
You're 25 and hate coffee and alcohol? Brother you should be more worried about relating to people your age with shit like that.
Also fyi time speeds up faster as you get older. So the time between 25 and 50 will be much faster than the first 25 years of your life. Don't worry too much about it...
@@froggin-zp4nrif the only way you can relate to ppl is coffee and alcohol that’s kinda sad
@@froggin-zp4nr Uncs tryna justify grooming 💀
If you're 25 and still hate coffee and alcohol, you'll probably never like it. Which is fine btw, but don't expect your taste to magically change when you turn 35.
The only way you could start liking it is if you force yourself to drink it (every taste except sugar is an acquired taste). But that's true at any age
@@xiayu6098bro tryna infentilize 25 y-o💀
went to check my washing machine immediately and found I left the door open. im a beast
3:34 “I knowww but I believe it” made me lolll
“why would he even want to”
you know why 🤦♀️
because it's not legal to go lower, that's why lmao. These types would be dating 12 year olds if it was legal
I have no interest in dating a 19 year old, but I think that a lot of arguments on age gaps are kind of circular. An argument could be made that the lack of common ground across ages even for friendships is a long term *consequence* of cultural age segregation, not some common-sense argument for why it should exist.
I'm an elder millennial with some much older Gen X siblings, and the ability to form meaningful friendships across a 10 or 20 year gap is literally just a socialization issue.
It's also just weirdly specific.
Like people have different experiences for a variety of reasons, it doesn't mean they can't just enjoy each other's presence as people and have a bond.
You've got friends from different countries, friends from different economic backgrounds, friends who have struggled and friends who have not.
These are hurdles nobody denies that, but just because something is a hurdle doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be overcome.
It's the mindset of "if it's going to fail why do it anyway" but doesn't the same just go for life. Like okay well I'm gonna die anyway and all my friends will die anyway so should I just not bother having any relationships?
Life is fleeting and relationships more so, just because it's likely to end doesn't mean it shouldn't be pursued. I find it weird if someone is like " I NEED a 20 year old partner" because maybe you have some odd motivations, but if you just so happened to have an age difference, you shouldn't HAVE to say no. If it makes you personally uncomfortable that's fine, it's just odd to then dictate that to other people when I'm sure they have other reasons to not date someone that you wouldn't personally agree with.
Friendly advice is fine, like "hey this isn't likely to work out so generally avoid this" but having a whole moral outcry about it is just too much.
Also people massively overestimate how hard it is to make a connection with someone of a different age group.
I'm 24, back when I was 21 I worked with a 45 y-o. Most of our work was done in clients house so we'd spend 40 hours a week either at someone's house or in a truck together. Eventually you figure out things you have in common and their interest will rub off on you to some extent (and vice-versa).
People assume it's close to impossible to make a friendship/relationship with someone in a different age group because they barely ever go past first meeting with someone of a different age group.
@@Jet-ij9zci don't believe it is overestimated, it's considered uncommon because *it is*
Unless there is some foundational connection between the people involved, friendship let alone romance is unlikely. Given none of that, 3 guesses why an age-gap relationship exists
I disagree. I am 32 and unable to form meaningful relationships with anyone at all. This disproves your argument I think
When chat ages past 25, they'll understand the frustration of spending time with 19 year olds.
So true
Yeah, people fresh out of high school haven't really spent enough time in the 'real world' yet and often haven't really found themselves yet. Can very clearly feel when someone is still in the highschool mindset. When someone cares way too much about what other people think and things like clout and popularity. Have to be in the working world for some number of years for the nihilism to seep into your soul so you can become relatable to adults.
@@JumbaJumby might have more to do with the prefrontal cortex developing
Yeah they haven't had time to be brutally ground down by the realities of life. But that just means your priorities change.
@Tehpwnzmean1 that's misquoted btw.
The thing about the frontal lobe finishing development at 25 is false.
Initially they thought it would finish earlier then that, then it went on a lot longer than expected and by the time the participants reached 25 they stopped the study and concluded that it probably never stops developing and that it wasn't worth the effort (or money) to make sure
the outro songs are my fav lil touch that really demonstrates why the librarian is better than all the other clip channels
that question at the beginning was loaded as fuck lol
1:20 jokes on them, i'm 34 and i'd be the one ordering mozzarella sticks
I hate that chat is gaslighting him he's absolutely right
A 40 year old and a 25 year old have different world experiences
You don't get The Egg to go on a legendary rant by agreeing with him. That said, he's 100% right.
People in general have different world experiences and most relationships fail. I don't really see the problem if they're two consenting adults. It's not my business.
I do agree that a huge age disparity probably makes a relationship more likely to fail on average, but you could say that for a number of other things people don't want to even consider. This one is just easy to dunk on for obvious reasons.
My dude *everybody has different life experiences*. Follow this logic through, should people of different races not date each other because they have different life experiences? If it's consenting then it's nobody's place to judge.
@@nyarlathotep1223 i'll judge all i want lol, age disparity is much more significant than cultural or racial disparity. 90% of relationships with a massive age disparity are superficial by nature.
@@bluedeluge5961nl asked something like “why would you even want to date someone way way younger than you, seems like it wouldn’t even be a good reletionship”. I think the answer to that question is what these ppl don’t want to think about… it’s usually something pretty gross like control in my experience
I really don't get how someone could be comfortable dating somone that's young enough to be their child, thats wack
it's because when you're older it matters less
@@Shnarfbird When you are BOTH older it matters less. A 40 and 50 year old dating is not weird, a 70 year old dating an 18 year old is weird
@@xXEGPXx I'm Sorry I Thought That Was Obvious
I mean I'm only 26 but like the only thing I'd say is as long as it's not like you're triple their age and you're both adults it's not that weird as long as you get along. Because people do be out here acting like everyone could reasonably have had a kid at 18-25, and not everyone is cut out for that. Some people took longer to mature and get their shit together. They could be more in tune with their with someone in their 20s than someone their own age. It's not as simple as number different bad. Honestly, as long as everyone is happy and it's not like grooming or anything, even if I think it's weird, I hesitate to fault people because everyone values different things, and it's up to everyone to find their own happiness.
It's "weird" in the sense that someone walking by such a couple might give an offhand negative opinion to the person next to them and never think about it again, but that's not where we are heading culturally at this point; there are people who literally think that a man in his 30s/40s dating a woman in her early 20s is a "groomer," arguing that because brains max out their development at 25, the early 20s woman can't consent. I'm not gonna go to bat for 40+ year old men dating 18/19 year olds, nearly everyone can agree on that, but the cultural argument has shifted considerably. I'm sorry, but if you think that anyone under 25 can't consent, your opinion shouldn't be taken seriously.
If this dude's demo isn't within 2 years of his actual age I'd be surprised. His entire content style is laser calibrated to being born in 1988.
You'd be surprised.
I’m from 1995
"Some 20 year olds actually have perspective on life" 100% of people who have said this are in their 20s
Okay grandpa.
I mean by the time my grandpa was 25 he was a married veteran of WW2 with two children so I would dare to say he had some level of life experience by then
@jamesmccomb9525 The person in their twenties didn't like that observation it seems.
@@eewweeppkk Yeah of course not, who would? Am I supposed to be all "Yeah you right, people my age are dumb"?
@@xXEGPXxoh wow, and how many of Northernlion twitch chatters are 25 year old WW2 veterans?
My opinion is if you're 25 or over, you're an adult and you're fully capable of making your own decisions. Before that, dating someone twice your age or more is a bit questionable on their part. That goes quadruple if you're like 17 or whatever, that's just disturbing (but not illegal where I live).
I agree with this 100%. Now I don't have to leave a comment saying exactly this
If you're basing the 25 on frontal lobe development, sorry to break it to you but that's false.
25 y-o is when they stopped the study and concluded it probably never stop developing, not when it stops
@@Jet-ij9zc There is no hard basis for norms people impose. They're a result of what they know, and what they've experienced, which doesn't cover everything. Most people aren't exactly polymath types. "25 is an adult, fully responsible" is a "what society expects of you" type of judgment, it's usually not inspired by any biological, psychological or neurological knowledge. If it were, it'd be something like "a particular 25 year old has the capacities and deficiencies they've developed".
@@Jet-ij9zcyou’re assuming they’re taking about brain development and not life experience as well
@@Lavender_enjoyer1st, my comment literally says "if you're basing the 25 on...". It's not an assumption it's a statement in regards to a possibility. Key word, "IF"
2nd: The 25 comes from a study from a decade or so ago and it is very very frequently used erroneously online whenever the topic comes up.
Had they used any age other than 25 or a more generic term like mid 20s, then maybe they were talking about life experiences. But since they said 25 years old explicitly, we'll I think it's reasonable to assume they were talking about brain development. But again, I did not even make that assumption. I wrote "if"
Bro is a biologist and lacks awareness that mold grows inside dark damp places. Leaving the door open after a wash lets the moisture evaporate so the mold doesn’t grow.
thats why I always chew with my mouth open
The fact that he started talking about washing machines just as Josh entered the chat 🥲
I think the main thing is incompatibilities- Ive dated women like 9 years younger and they’re interested in stuff I couldn’t care less about like TikTok, their sleep schedule is the opposite of mine, priorities are kind of fucked, even if we get along fine, their friends could be weird to meet with and hard to relate to, meeting the parents is a particularly nerve racking thought. Tbf all of this could happen with someone the same age as me. I guess I don’t care who people get with.
Bro did not miss once in this video. Im so impressed lol
as you get older, age gap matters less. a 30 year old dating a 20 year old is legal but iffy. a 40 year old dating a 30 year old is no biggie
I'm in my early 30's and cannot imagine dating someone in their early 20's or younger. Aside from anything problematic, I just can't see myself having much in common with anyone that much younger
Didn't Michael Jordan's son date Scottie Pippen's wife at one point?
They still are
Ex-wife*
Larsa Pippen and Marcus Jordan, 16 year age gap. Micheal Jordan explicitly said that he disapproves.
Listen I'M 22, and i think of people around my age as essentially kids.
New washers have an air dry function they run post cycle to air themselves out.
In love with a +15y woman, I never had any issue, treasured every conversation and every activity and moment together, but she eventually started to feel more and more uncomfortable, and guilty, until my presence became more a source of discomfort then one of joy. I couldn't change that and I couldn't convince her. I miss her a lot but it is what it is.
Oldhead takes imbuing me with youthful vigor, thanks NL
I'm 24 and I'm exclusively attracted to dudes who are 60+. It's not like the exact age that matters, but I'm into the look of older guys and I like the idea of their greater world experience. I get that it's weird. I have a wonderful dad and have no issues there. But the people I am dating are older than him.
I am not really romantic and I doubt I'll get married to anyone, but I've had a lot of fun hookups. I am very independent and I am sensitive to potential for a power difference to lead to an abusive situation, it can happen without an age difference but I feel like the risk is higher with one. I've been careful and will continue to be. I've talked about how it feels from the other end as well with some of the guys - a lot of them say it makes them feel younger, they remember their own early sexual exploration at a time when it was somewhere between illegal and taboo. They like it, I like it. I also know that there's a surprisingly large (albeit still relatively small) number of people like me. If it grosses you out then just don't think about it. People have their own sexual preferences, if it doesn't hurt anyone then let it be.
I'm 24 hours late to this video so most people who are going to watch probably already have, but feel free to ask any questions and I'll answer to the best of my ability. I'm not shy
Slay those silver foxes!
You're a guy as well I'm guessing? From the mention of sexual exploration being taboo/illegal
can you explain what the power diffrence is? people always say this in discussions like this but im not sure i get what they mean by that.
@@revolversnake126 Ok so there are two dimensions to this for me. I'll start with the non-sexual one: the age gap itself. This is pretty simple - in pretty much every culture there's an idea of "respect your elders" - basically people who are older than you 1. Have wisdom and 2. Have valuable lived experience, and have earned some degree of respect, or at least should be listened to. Whether or not you agree with that in the general case (respect should always be earned, etc) the fact remains that most younger people (including myself) apply this to most older people, at least the ones whose beliefs generally already line up with our own. That puts a power dynamic in place in one way.
The other dimension is sexually motivated. I am fiercely independent, but in the bedroom I enjoy being more submissive. You can use your imagination here, but generally acting this way with newly met people is on the more dangerous side of hooking up, especially considering the prevalence of dating apps where this information is present from the start, was probably involved in it being a match, and some sexual talk that can involve that may happen prior to meeting
What about them even attractive?
The first part is why i was surprised that NLSS was hanging out with Chiblee when he was like 15 and they were like 27. Not that its ILLEGAL but what did they talk about? 😭
wait what. they didn’t know chiblee until like 4 years ago right?? he’s like 26?
how do you make the end songs? AI? does nl have secret singing channel i dont know about? just a lot of editing?
whenever he sings and i really enjoy it, i throw a backing track behind it and keep it for an outro
@@TheLibraryofLetourneau What is the song clip at the beginning of the backing track from? Just before Pony kicks in. It's super familiar but I can't place it...
"me being pelted with tomatoes on stage by people who agree with me but can't say it out loud"
I feel like if both parties are above 35 it’s slightly less unacceptable but I’m still curious how it happened
i miss somebody's trap card, has countered my ice block
NL needs to stop sexualizing Shohei Ohtani
that's the true problematic behavior on display here
19 year olds be listening to a 35 year old bald boomer for 5 hours a day, and this dude thinks they can't have a conversation together?
There's listening, then there's understanding, then there's understanding enough to disagree, and then there's being knowledgeable enough to disagree and be right enough to sway opinions, and then there's knowing exactly what there going to say before they say it. And on the most obscure thing, like the difference between induction stoves vs. Gas stoves. Sure, there's intelligent and well rounded young people who are great conversationists, and old people who are just up their ass and ageist. But on induction cooking vs. gas stoves? I was an intelligent and well rounded kid at 19, and I wouldn't have cared in the slightest, and now at 28 I'm legitimately into it. Granted I'm autistic, but I'm sure that there has to be a nuerotypical equivalent.
This 35 year old is cooked brother.
@@nirvit1932 Yeah this bit is pretty funny now that enelle spends like 2 hours a day reading twitter brainrot. He's got more he can talk about with the average 19 year old than the average 35 year old...
Being a teenager and listening to a 35-year-old streamer is different from a teenager dating someone who could be a decade older than some of their teachers
"Toddlers read Dr. Seuss books everyday and this guy thinks they can't have a conversation together?"
nl framing every hypothetical scenario around dinner
“Problematic” bro this just makes sense
1:18 I suspect Northernlion was just a wewird 19-year-old, who orders mozarella sticks?
He always sounds like TMBG when he sings
Leave the washing machine door open.
It lets it dry out.
You get mold in there!!
Even as someone who absolutely did not get his shit together in his 20s.
Yep.
I am a washing mashine door open guy. It lets the machine dry out. Same with the dish washer.
Looking through the comments, I feel like I'm reading posts from conservatives arguing why people should not pursue same sex relationships, or why women shouldn't have too many partners. Why would you care what consenting adults do between themselves?
People are simply pointing out differences in maturity and experience can be a big hurdle in making a relationship work, and can also create a skewed power dynamic. I don't see any condemnation or bad faith arguments. In fact, conservatives are the ones generally who want to move that needle closer to normalizing teen women being involved with older men
"im being pelted with tonatoes by people who agree with me but cant say it out loud" lol nl is truly the goat
damn someone gave him a +4
Not in the least bit problematic! Librarian is this dashing your dreams of having interesting conversations with NL?
Maybe you're his Michael Jordon :D
I'd be interested in looking at a realistic poll of how many men would celebrate men dating older women vs women celebrating women dating older men.
Edit: I think it would be closer to 50:50, so long as "normal" counts as "celebratory"
It's gotta be an ego thing. Find yourself someone without enough life experience to see your flaws, and let them put you on a pedestal. Some people want to be surrounded by that.
Also, not every 50yo has gotten themselves mentally to 50, and not in an "only as young as I think I am" kinda way.
I see NL as the kind of guy that's going to get Laugh Factory Kramer-cancelled over a really tepid and inoffensive take that somehow ages poorly
I think he's far too based to be cancelled
Current NL is way too normal, he's aged into the most normal microcelebrity. There might be something in the isaac mines that somebody could dredge up though.
He doesn't engage in wrongthink, how could he possibly ever be cancelled? Also, Kramer guy literally went on a racist tirade, that's the opposite of a tepid and inoffensive take...
I’m not sure I would consider the statements of Kramer’s actor to be tepid and inoffensive.
That being said, I think getting “Cancelled” has about as much to do with initial popularity as it does the severity of the action. Plenty of political and social leaders have said and even done far worse, only to get defended by their group to an extent that they don’t really lose any support at all. I think if NL did get in trouble for whatever reason a decade down the road he’d have a lot more defenders than attackers.
I am guessing he attracted Soy viewers a long time ago. So he is very careful with his words. If he says something chat doesn't like he says something similar but opposite to win them back.
These endings are good
Relationships are a two-way street. I’d argue that in many age gap relationships, the maturity problem doesn’t really rest with the younger partner; the older partner may have some issues connecting with their own generation and is gravitating towards a younger partner because of that. This certainly doesn’t make it OK though, and there’s a lot to consider.
Even dating something only a few years younger than you leads to some pretty huge gaps. In the last four years, such an insane amount of things have changed for people in high school and college that if I dated anyone who never went through that, I feel like we’d have a huge experience gap.
Mate, 99.999% of the time the older parter dates someone much younger due to sexual attraction.
You know that, I know that, literally everyone knows that
NL acting like his entire lifestyle isn't built on being able to talk to and interact with 18-25 year olds is insane
Cmon its not like he's 50 years old. He's just close.
Sure, you can temporarily appeal to those younger than you, but lets not act like any of us would have a good longterm relationship with NL. We are fans, not his buddies
@@xXEGPXx +2
What? We are his fans, there’s no fuck a fan contest happening. Completely irrelevant point lol
Yo this nibba thinking the teacher is his friend
How do you even have this conversation without bringing up the obvious answers of sex and money lol
It was implied dumb dumb
Probably because that's a boring unfunny perspective.
@@jamesmccomb9525 It's also the answer, though. NL keeps making the point that you can't have meaningful conversations in a relationship with an age gap where most of the time that's clearly not what anyone is looking for.
@@Tornado5786 NL is an entertainer, not a political commentator. He says stuff to be funny, not to be correct.
@@jamesmccomb9525how are sex and money not funny
"Jerry Seinfeld dated a 17 year old when he was 40. He is a smart guy-" cut the clip right there.
It always depends. Some people just get along but he is right the age usually go against it working out.
I'm 24 and have always been told I have an old soul. Part of it may be my difficulties with tech (never have owned a computer) and everyone in my age group annoys me lol. I have a feeling that my wife may end up being a few years older than me
bro you gotta leave the washing machine door open when you're done. you want it to get musty and mildew in there?
"it would just be so annoying" is a pretty funny reason not to date a 19 year old
What’s crazy is that he’s literally right LOL I think this is a case of my fellow 20 yr olds being butthurt LMFAO
I hope that I never reach an age where I don’t find mozzarella sticks appetizing
Thank you librarian.
I like older guys please dont bully me
I liked older women when I was young. As you tend to get older, you realize platonic relationships are way underrated when your young, and romantic relationships are overrated. Not that there's anything wrong with doing you, but even if your successful, your not as content as you'd think you'd be, while even people who are half assing platonic relationships seem to be having a better experience. And this goes for Irl dating, having as much sex as you want, no stress of marriage or kids, doing pretty well in looks and not hooking up with aholes. And a lot of people's experiences aren't that.
The fact of the matter is that for most people, platonic relationships have both a higher floor and a higher ceiling, are more varied and dependable.
There's nothing wrong with liking what you like, but dating and hooking up are two different things.
door closed will ruin your life man
Last year I dated a 19 year old as a 25 year old. This was already a terrible idea. Should have turned around at the red flag that she didn't mind my age and would have liked if I was older. So for dane cook to have started talking to a 19 year old when he was 45? Absolutely insane. You do not want to date the kind of 19 year old that wants a middle aged man
I would not want to join any club that would accept me as a member type of thing is very true here. If you're 18-19 dating some guy older than 21 I would not want to be either person there
Oh yea middle aged men don't want 19 year olds....Olds..... for sure, that's sick. Might as well make age of consent 25 now!
@@tomguglielmo9805i think i disagree with you but i literally cant figure out what point youre trying to make. can you explain please
@@radioatlast let's talk about majority, the majority of Middle aged men have no problem fucking a 19-28 year old. And they shouldn't. That's more restriction to the 19-28 year old. Not needed. Most men would be very happy to "date" a beauty 20 year old, regardless of intent.
I’m got a feeling you might be unsatisfied with the tribes you currently participate in
WHY DO WE LEAVE IT OPEN?! I GOTTA KNOW!
Mold likes humid, dark places
@@mrRPGamers ohh thank god
If one's 25 and the other is 55, they aren't going to grow old together
I prefer skill based match making when I date.
I think everything was going well until 3:39
Well Seinfeld didnt write Seinfeld, Larry David did so that explains that
It's weird to me how much of a boomer NL is when he's 4 years younger than me.
hesOLD
lmao
as a 31 year old, NL does not feel 34 to me, it boggles my mind, how is this man not in his 40s, how much ageing am I going to do in three years.
Its genetic
I just think of the average 20 yo guy living like a rat with no money, and the average 20 yo woman who just came out of her "everyone hates me" teen depression phase and still thinks beauty is a personality trait. Yeah im 32 and I'm not excited.
It's scary how based NL is.
wow i was expecting something not based to happen. i was wrong. this is problematic only in the way i feel like nl invaded my thoughts and used them to make this whole diatribe
I think NL needs to speak to someone about his obsession with age. There are so many clips and videos of him hyperobsessing over age. I’m in my 20s and i talk to people in their 30s, 40s all the time and am fully able to carry out a conversation.
I know this vid is like over a year old but it’s just crazy how often he’s talking about ages 💀
I’ve met 30 year olds who are complete disasters and I’ve met 20 year olds who have their shit together. Generalizations are bad people.
Hawk tuah
I just really don't care what other people do with their lives. As long as it's not a minor I don't care if one person is 18 and the other 80. Well... as long as both are in the relationship of their own free will. If so... none of my business.
Personally though... I do a + or - 10 years.
What about passport bros? Do you consider it gross for someone who's 30ish to go to a country with a lower age of consent to sleep with someone who would be a minor in their own country? After all, its perfectly legal. This is why, to me, you arent a proper adult until your brain finishes developing at 25
Actually a good take, after the misogynist + incest allegations I thought he was gonna go for the triple crown
I’m 21 years old and I think of 22 year olds as kids
I always preferred 5+ years older or younger. I have nothing in common with anyone my age.
I guess like a one night stand or just sex might make sense, but yeah a relationship just seems so strange to me. As in, why would you want that?
Why would you leave the washer door open?
I 100% in support of malf's comment.
I don't think older women are dating young men for their extensive...knowledge
I'm seeing a ton of ~20 yr olds pretending to have life experience because they know things from watching youtube.
I'm also seeing a smaller fraction of creeps who are probably 30-35 and making arguments that boil down to "age is just a number" and "mind your own business".
Very very few people actually making solid arguments based on actual experience. Either way, most of yall are just proving NL's point...
They are adults legally, I personally don’t believe you’ve reached physical maturity till 25 (when the prefrontal cortex in the brain is one of the last things to fully mature and is arguably one of the things that makes you the most “adult”)
That being said - if I were say 40 and had an opportunity to have a relationship with a 25 year old would I?
No, they are an adult, but I’d still be anxious that I was taking advantage of them through potentially greater experiences - do I think a 15 year age gap is never okay under any circumstances?
I think 99 times out of 100, it’s probably not ethically appropriate unless you’re both 50+
Are people really disagreeing tho
Ohtani mentioned +2