The Manners Rant
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- manners do be makething man
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Stream date: 08-30-2023
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#northernlion #clips - Ігри
"The first person to insist gets their way. To resist an insist makes you the person with bad manners. The first insister gets priority, you can't insist an insist."
This man lives in a Seinfeld episode
You nailed it, he's in his Constanza arc. Interested to see the next phases of his evolution.
he's right though
They way he worded it was wack but yeah it's really annoying when a person will not let someone else cover the bill. In their efforts to be polite, they have become rude and wasted everyone's time.
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Isn't this whole rant literally a Curb episode?
Bald man tries to grow hair by eating it
Its working but all the hair goes to his chest and back
What are you talking about? He's not bald.
NL is absolutely in the right here. Manners is analogous to making people comfortable: if everyone agrees to eat when the food comes out, there’s no disconnect - it’s good manners.
the problem is that i unironically like waiting for others to fet their food too, and he says that if he insists, suddenly im rude if i dont want to
It's good manners to counter-insist at least once, if it's about paying the bill.
I'm surprised he didn't mention consent there. It's obviously not rude to eat your food as soon as possible, but you should ask the others at the table if it's okay, not simply start.
Communication is key, as always
Communication is key, as always
NL's "I insist" rule is something that I 100% agree with but never would have been able to articulate. Genius among men.
when our bald 🐐 starts a bit with “can i tell you something” i KNOW its about to get straight silly
Chat was all like: The lord of the manners, THE LORD OF THE MANNERS NEEDS TO GET HIS FOOD FIRST
Hero streamer risks life for country by sucking it up and eating the hair at a restaurant
i think it only makes sense if you're the type to just sit there and shovel food with max efficiency and all conversation stops. then it's kinda rude cause what can they do but stare at you eating. but if you're a normal person who can chat and eat then there's no problem at all.
Use your phone like a normal human?
@@CaioVictor20101one person shoveling food at max speed while the other person scrolls through twitter is not ideal lol
@@CaioVictor20101Why even go out to eat if one person is doom scrolling while the other doesn't loon up from their plate? What a dystopian take
@@CaioVictor20101 using your phon while out with friends is actually bad manners thats weird af
@@CaioVictor20101haha this is a hilarious take, can't believe people don't get a joke here!
I fucking love how NL can make something so trivial into a full blown controversial debate where ad hominems are flying over the table. (I also agree with him).
this is the level of banter alibility I aspire as a person
The ice cream take was insane and is actual seinfeld character behaviour.
"I didn't like that sample, could I please get 2 scoops of salted caramel?"
"NO SCOOP FOR YOU"
Nah, you know what ice cream tastes like. I'm not going to waste everyone's time by asking for thimblefulls of free ice cream. If you choose to go down that road, you gotta lock in.
ice cream isn't a flavour ya cooked chook
It wouldn’t be an NL rant without the Midwest getting slammed
"Common sense is a chaotic aggregate of disparate conceptions, and one can find there anything that one likes."--Antonio Gramsci
I pretended to go the bathroom once to pay only to find out the waitress wouldn’t let me because someone had phoned in advance. That’s when I found out I was in the little league
It was already a good bit, but the darth vader scream at 2:25 just makes it better.
This is the egg at his most larry david pilled
I find this generational gap around something like table manners, of all things, to be ginormously petty but also interesting to see that rift between older and younger people. My parents, for example, they were pretty old school about this sort of stuff; Only eat when everyone has their food, you must hold the fork in a specific way in your left hand and the knife in the other hand regardless if you may be left handed or not, you need to place them down while dressing the table in specific ways, yadda yadda etc. etc. Meanwhile, a friend of mine was brought up a little more loosely when it came to that, to a dogma that essentially was "just don't be gross by throwing or vomiting across everyone on the table and you'll be fine", and when we've had meals at restaurants together we had our meals essentially the same way as one another. I personally do not care a iota if someone starts to eat before I did, I don't want to make anyone stare at their plate at a restaurant watching their food get cold because I haven't gotten mine yet. If anything, I prefer it because seeing them enjoy theirs would only hype me up more for mine, I truly see no point in waiting.
I don’t care if other people eat before me but I do feel kinda weird if I’m like the only person eating at the table so I wait in those situations.
yo this dude needs to shift enter more. holy wall-o-text
i get what you mean, but the visual of someone being physically hyped up and vibrating in their seat because their friend is eating food at a restaurant is really fucking funny
i aint readin all that
@@mtsoccermani dont know how its not weirder to sit their with food going cold infront of you
He should've asked if the chatters wait for the entire party to get their food at a buffet before they eat
Good point tbh, the way you get the food somehow matters in matters? Haha
Everyone - no eating your movie popcorn until the trailers are done and the real movie starts
"I get accused of being judgmental, and I believe that I am judgmental, but I think the thing is: you're also as judgmental as me, you're just not as good at it" - the greatest take of all time
I used to care about not putting my elbows on the table then one day I saw others doing it and realised it's one of the stupidest rules, especially considering we were at McDonald's
NL*says something normal*
chat "NO NO NO -2 -2"
I mean he’s right. Just eat your food. Literally who cares.
I always found people who care that much about “manners” to not actually be that nice.
yuppp, the politeness isn't about being nice, it's about pathology and power dynamics. not the kind of energy you should be seeking in your life outside of a bdsm club
the only manners that matter to me is being polite to service workers. If someone is cruel to someone who is obligated to be nice to them, I no longer want anything to do with that person
@@ckorp666 I think you're looking too much into it. You need to stop spending so much time on leftbook. Not everything has to harken back to some social commentary.
@@saz100 wtf is leftbook? my annoying preachiness is homegrown, u underestimate me :) and fwiw, i disagree
@@saz100Facebook is the biggest right wing shithole on the internet
Egg man definitely stole his child's chicken tenders because he couldn't control himself
NL isn't that crazy with this joint but let's be honest he doesn't have the balls to do this at somebody else's birthday meal. Guy's waiting for Debbie's risotto to get rizzed up.
I've noticed that manners aren't going away between generations, they're just shifting.
Used to be "Wait until everyone has food, use the silverware". Now it's "Complain gently, don't make the life of this minimum wage earner hell"
tipping as well. When I was a kid, tipping was (supposed to be) as a reward for excellent service, but as I grew up it became good manners to tip because the minimum wage earner relies on it and they can't control 90% of the things that we tend to think of as "good service" in the first place (food quality/temperature/timing, having enough time to share between the tables they're assigned, etc). Especially once we got delivery as a norm and tipping delivery drivers was introduced
this is a very midwest ideal, i have just started (as a 28 year old) eating my food when I am hungry. We just discussed arbitrary and outdated social norms in my class yesterday too so this hits
I always wait until everyone has their food, however I wouldn't hold it against someone who ate as soon as their food comes out.
"What's the point of going to the restaurant then" Andy
Actually a great take, as always he explained it really well too
Go ahead and eat Andys when I eat pay and leave before they get their food. 😶
The only reason "waiting for everyone to get their food before eating" ever became a thing surely must've been because it maximizes time available to talk. If the people start eating at different times there'll always be at least one person unable to talk due to being preoccupied with consuming food.
That being said, I don't give a shit. I'm not afraid of some silence, as long as everyone else feels the same way ofc.
what caveman can't talk to someone while they're eating a bite, and then eat a bite while that person replies
NL: I have manners
Also NL: 🍣
he doesn't care about hair in his food because he has to take all the ones he gets
NL's ice cream rule is sort of interesting, but it disincentivizes being curious. Even flavor-curious customers that know deep down they might not like what they sample, so they're gonna sample a safe choice, then use they're other two samples to try new stuff. The rate of unnecessary sampling might go down or go up, it depends.
Nah son free ice cream. I be going in, getting hella samples then leaving a 5 in the tip jar. No scoops for me
I had this happen very recently. Me and my buddy got some hot wings together. He got his order like 5 seconds before mine i said feel free to eat dude. Like i dont give a shit if youre eating. He was like nah its cool and waited. I thought it was dumb. I know about that manners rule but i certainly didnt want him to wait. Just eat. It doesnt do anything to me.
sounds like he wanted to wait?
@@mtsoccerman yes he did want to wait. I am just saying I dont understand it and I would have preferred him to eat and not let his food get cold for some dumb polite gesture. just eat man. im gonna eat when mine comes out.
@@MrHeart12 if he prefers to wait until your food comes out, who cares? He isn’t necessarily doing it for you. I know I would be sorta uncomfortable digging in when other people are still waiting, especially a 2 person meal.
@@mtsoccerman thats weird. lol why would you feel uncomfortable eating food?
@@MrHeart12because it’s a cultural thing that many people have heavily ingrained in them? I wonder if NL would look at his elders in Korea while drinking? I would guess not.
I think he should make a "play mobile phone on the table is also bad manners" argument, it would blow chat out.
Eggman was on fire here. Agreed with every single take.
I've never heard of "you're not allowed to eat until everyone gets thier plate" before, how does that make sense? Like, you just sit there watching your food get cold until someone else gets thier food? How is it rude to eat the meal you ordered? 😵😵😵
their meal could be out in a minute
could be ten
why you gotta eat cold food
Agreed on the early food thing, but hard disagree on the ice cream. Often there's a flavor I know is bussin and don't need to try, and another which is more of a risk. I'll try the risk, and if I don't like it, get the one I know is good. Also two samples is the absolute max, three is just insane.
I personally don't eat until others have their food, not because I think it's polite, but because I feel it's kinda awkward sometimes. Usually I am mid conversation when I get my food and so theres no need to stop my line of thought just to eat before others. Unless I am starving, I wouldn't eat before other people have their food too. Have never experienced my food getting cold doing this. I wouldn't look down on someone for eating before others have their food, though.
When I go out to eat with my parents the rule is you should start eating when your food arrives so its not getting fucking cold for no reason.
This is a +10
I think he's putting too much stock into efficiency and not enough into social flow. If we're having conversation and my linguine shows up, I'm not gonna hold my finger up as I shove forkfuls of noodles down my gullet because they're at the optimal temperature, I'm gonna wait until they're cold so my friend and I can talk about bullshit until their well done steak comes out and we can eat, as equals.
I can't decide if you are a hero for being a friend to the friendless or a villain for willingly associating with those who order their steak well done.
It’s not necessarily about manners. It’s about sharing the experience. It’s weird if one person is sitting there while everyone else at the table eats.
6:55 Wait so this is the bald guy that talks about the matrix all the time? i cant believe he was a former kickboxing champion.
The correct answer here is you wait if you have your food and if you’re the waiting party you hit the people who have food with a “no no go ahead please don’t wait”
Will he beat the no manners allegations?
fellow somali
I have shamelessly used the First Strike / retaliation “I got it!” paying the bill method before lol
restaurants where I am from bring the food at the same time for all people in tiers. soup comes first for everyone who wanted soup and they can eat, no other foods are brought out until the soup is done. then comes various dishes (steak, cooked dishes etc). after all is eaten, comes desert.
I've always been taught to just eat when the food arrives if the meal is warm and wait for everyone to get their food if it's cold. I wouldn't mind if someone starts eating their cold salad before I get my food, but I'd wait for others to get their food if I'm in a nice restaurant or with people I'm not very close with
I might be brainwashed by the matrix, but his shiny head is trying to convine me that being traditionally polite is somehow "wrong".
what's wrong is enforcing those strange rituals on people outside of the context of like, a holiday family dinner with ur grandparents
if ur chilling at applebees with some buddies and make a scene/judge people because they didn't abide by centuries-old neuroses that make no sense, then youre obviously in the wrong
In Sweden servers have a hand-held computer with the total itemized bill and they go round the table and everybody says: "I had this one and this one and this one", and they will tap the items and split it out and you pay, then the next person said what they had, the server will split it out, and they pay. Except that you have to wait for 5 card transactions to go through instead of one, it is not of any inconvenience to anyone because they have a system that supports this kind of process. And cash does more or less not exist anymore here. Tipping in Sweden is not really a thing except when you go to dinner, but if 5 people pay for each of their dinner, they might get 5 tips, so that little bit of extra work might get them quite the bonus. One person paying for everybody is of course normal in a family or with close friends, but if you pay for 5 people for dinner you are out quite a chunk of change and then you technically go out 4 more times with the same people for it to equal out and that is a bit of a pain. Plus you don't want to take something expensive or something extra if you know that someone else has going to pay for it, so just split your bill and pay what you had and that's it.
I completely agree with NL, if were sitting there and a plate of hot food is between us and we both know i want to eat it were just being stupid like whats the fucking point
Idk i think it's weird to masticate in front of others if they ain't doing it back.
I'm very situational when it comes to this. Company, whether there's an ongoing conversation, how hungry I really am, location, all of it can affect my decision to eat early or wait. But I dunno. No one here really gets mad if you eat when your food arrives, or wait. You're there to eat, chat, and have a good time. Not show off your "proper manners".
watching this while i wait for the bald man to go live
If it's lunch at work with colleagues, I usually eat as soon as the food is at my table.
When I am attending a dinner and food lands before me first, I slowly nibble on it and try to enjoy it while maintaining a conversation. No need to rush in that case.
I have never heard this bit about waiting for other people to get their food before you eat. I mustve transfered to a different universe recently.
you should wait until the foodless person invites you to start your meal. Just digging in without a word is barbaric
NL was cooking with this one
bro is telling curb episodes at this point lol
I wait cause i eat real quick and if i get my plate first I'm gonna sit there like an asshole for the next 30 mins
For me it depends if the other person is a fast or slow eater
as a southern homeschooler, i've never even heard of the no one eats till everything is out rule, i used to work in a resturaunt and we always timed our food so everything went to a table all at once but i've never gotten a situation where me or someone else threw a tantrum because someone ate before everyone else, it's wild that people actually -2 NL for such a reasonable stance
I always tell people "you can go ahead. I wouldn't wait for you."
2:35 damn game really said "-2"
i knew you'd do vid on this, as evidenced by my chat msg
The fake "i got it" on the check cracks me up i do that all the time with my big italian family, and they all always know i am NOT paying 😂😂😂
I truly don't understand how anyone can disagree with NL's take on not waiting to eat your food. I swear people are just disagreeing to disagree. I cannot comprehend how anyone would think you should let your food that someone worked so hard to cook get cold because someone at the table doesn't have food yet.
A refusal to question the things you were taught when you were a mindless idiot (i.e. a child) is a hell of a drug.
If you’re waiting so long for someone else’s food that yours goes cold then that is a terrible restaurant. Like, walk out and never come back bad.
In reality, the food is only ever going to be another 40 seconds. Just sit and wait like a normal person
I agree, the difference in wait time is so far apart in cafés and restaurants. Someone's spaghetti comes first, they eat first, because the next baked cheese rice set comes out in another ten - fifteen minutes. The spaghetti would be cold from the A/C.
THIS GUY DOESNT MISS
He's right about the ice cream btw, and if anyone is pressed about it, just realize if you take 2 samples and you don't like either, you just go with the usual instead of risking a 3rd bad sample. It's as simple as that.
Finding hair in food doesn't bother me but once I got chow mein from panda express and found 3 separate hairs while eating. The last one was long as fuck and It took like a full 3 seconds to pull all the way out of my mouth. Definitely didn't eat any more after that lol
"Hmmmm I never get this flavour of ice cream. Let me try it. Nevermind, my usual flavour is better." -2!!!
Its funny, fancy restaurants pride themselves with bringing out all the food out at the same time.
I do the exact same thing with hair. I feel so seen. Representation matters
The prison fit goes hard
What if I don’t wanna eat my food first, because I wanna eat it with you?
then insist that you want to wait
Totally agree. Someone having their food become lukewarm and not enjoyable out of politeness is stupid.
I was mostly listening and not watching and was so confused to see FEED GRANPA BLOOD.
I think he's misunderstanding the point of manners in this situation. The point of waiting to eat is to show that your personal hunger is less important than everyone getting to start their meal at the same time. You are chosing the groups needs/enjoyment over your own. It is a way to show that you are more polite than just fulfilling your personal needs. As with all manners its a "signal" of politeness and can be dismissed by the other people, as NL said if someone says you don't have to wait, you don't have to.
A similar example would be walking home in a group and reaching a crosswalk first (maybe twenty seconds before everyone else). The crosswalk light turns to "Walk" and you can either wait for your entire group to join you and walk together across or you can rush across and leave everyone behind potentially disrupting the group. You chose your personal need to get home/to your car over the group's cohesiveness. It's a minor thing but in my mind without any other stated intention it shows you are willing to put your needs first and don't think about other people. Which like all manners, the point is to show others you care and are willing to put them before you.
My thoughts exactly, I don't know why people are reacting as there is absolutely no reason to perceive it as a sign of putting yourself before others. Of course, if you say anything, you can start eating, it's absolutely insane to insist on someone waiting after they would acknowledge it, but just chomping on your food instantly seems equally tone deaf to me 🤷
The insist rule is such good advice.
very true good point lol
The 2 first times i had A&W there was hair in it but i keep goin back
So many things in this I agree with. the Egg is right once again. Although I will say, when I'm out to eat and my food gets there first I will feel like a dickhead for eating before you but I don't want you to feel like a dickhead for eating before me if it were to happen to you. I would feel like a dick for doing it even though I don't think other people doing it is a dick move. Weird but whatever.
As a host at a restaurant i have had parents meeting their daughter and son-in-law come 5 minutes early and hand me their card before the rest of the party got there so that they could be the ones to pay for lunch.
I don't have very strong feelings about this one way or the other really, but if I get my food first I am waiting until others get their food. If he insisted I ate then I would take like one bite and then wait.
Politeness at dinner means a few things, but seriously eat it while it’s hot bucko.
If I get my food I'm eating it, I went to eat cuz im fuckin hungry, im eating. That disturbs you enough to leave, good, I'll pay the bill and eat what you ordered
gimme dat burger
Take the utilitarian approach and go to a restaurant with shared plates. Everyone eats together once the food arrives. Dumplings, hot pot, middle eastern and african cuisine, etc Im sure theres more examples but that to me is a happy medium as it omits one social faux pas out of the hundreds being committed consciously or otherwise which is anxiety inducing constantly replaying in your head days and weeks afterwards on repeat for the rest of time and you know what fuck it im staying home eating chips
I was taught that for a "cold food" you wait for everyone to sit down before you eat. for "warm/hot food" you eat as soon as it is in front of you. SImple, yet effective
and as a finnish person when it comes to coffee, the etiquette goes: "you don't need to make coffee just for me, but I could drink a whole pot of it if you did"
Almost word for word a Larry David bit
That whole eating manners dabacle must be an American thing. Like it exists here in europe but no one is going to go crazy if you start digging in first.
How based can this man be?
0:37 this mans CRACKED
The world would be a better place if people spent less time worrying about the most inane bullshit like "he ate before my food arrived" and just used their turn signal
He’s out of line, but he’s right.
If you can do something small to let people around you know they’re respected and love, why wouldn’t you?
He’s right