Mobil 1 Oil Filter After 15k Miles Of Usage
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2020
- Mobil 1 Extended Performance oil filter after 15,000 miles of usage. We'll look at the synthetic media (99.9 efficiency), silicone anti-drain back valve, metal end plates and overall construction.
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My brother in law had a dodge pickup with the the slant 6 engine back in the 70s. He never checked the oil. He drove it 50,000 miles on the same oil and filter. He never added any oil. The engine finally blew up because there was no oil left in the crankcase. I put a junkyard engine in for him. He did exactly the same to that engine. I quit working on his truck for him if he couldn't even bother to keep the oil at the proper level. The slant 6 was bullet proof if you did basic maintenance on it like change the oil and filters.
This comment pisses me off for some reason!!! A brother’s stupidity should never be underestimated...trust me, i know...
No way I could not believe this. Bro
Sounds like a lazy ass, suprised he even put gas in it... probably had that done for him. Geez 😂
@@romansroad2007
Have a brother who was a fireman then became a fire marshal performing fire prevention inspections. He would leave plate covers off the electrical outlets which were accessible to toddlers (I installed them out of concern for my niece and nephews) and would use extension cords on old space heaters. He wound up losing his house to fire from overloaded old wiring and, to top it off, he had let his homeowners insurance lapse. Some people are stupid, lazy or both. Their family suffers for it.
I seldom change the oil in my hybrid car. I check it regularly, but I'll go for 25K miles, and it's still honey colored. I then guilt myself into changing it. Oil changes are overrated in hybrid cars which run less, and at constant high load low RPM.
When you change your filter, put a thin layer of fresh oil on the gasket. You'll never have an issue with it sticking. Also, after you remove your old filter, wipe down the mating surface with a lint-free rag or towel and you'll never accidentally double-gasket it...
Even with adding a thin layer of oil on the gasket if u tighten to spec it should be a we bit stuck when trying to pull it off
@@monkeymcgee3630 I find it just helps keep the o-rings from sticking to the block, but that film of oil does also create a small bit of adhesion just from the film, but it gives easily.
Now, that being said. This is a habit started DECADES ago and with quality silicone seals/-rings it probably doesn't matter anymore. Cheaper o-rings may still benefit, but old habits die hard.
Thank you, Capt Obvious
@@user-fw6xr3ue2q You actually bothered spending time posting that? It's people like you that over torque oil drain plugs...
@@Mike80528I'm guessing those guys throwing shade at your post, have never heard of people learning how to change oil, and may not know everything like they do.
I've run all brands of oil filters and I am a big fan of Mobile 1 filters. Worth every penny and then some.
Better rethink that ! They are making cheap ones now in Korea ! !
@@stevendeitrich6933 Everything is made oversees these days.
What experience u have with the mobil 1 filter?
I have a euro car so I choose to spend an extra 10 bucks a jug and get Liqui Moly High Tec, Made in Germany. Along with German filter, 65 bucks isn't worth damaging my pride and joy!
99% efficiency at 30 microns .... Purolator boss is 99% at 20 microns .. and top of the line fram is same
I have been using Mobil 1 oil and filters for decades. I know feel even better about it!
I use mobile 1 oil and filters for my 02 accord every 5000 miles. Engine has 295,000 plus original miles and still sounds good. After watching this video, I now know I've been using the right stuff. Even after a oil change, I've never heard that slight knock on start up like you do on some engines, engine has never been run dry.
I mean that’s great but those old Hondas will run on cheap oil with cheap filters 😆. I know I’ve had a few one over 300k. Keep it clean and she’ll go forever
@@ajmedeiros77 it's starting to develop a ticking sound since I posted this comment. It's now got 336,000 plus miles but the engine still runs good. The tick practically disappears when it's under a load and even more so once it warms up so that tells me the bottom end should still be good... no rod knocks. I have discovered these engines develop this tick due to spark timing/detonation which creates piston slap over time and outside of rebuilding it there's nothing can be done about it. They will still run for many more miles if it's taken care of and not run hard. Unfortunately I ran mine with a bad knock sensor for too long and threw the timing off and I didn't catch it in time. Detonation is hard on any engine. I have a 97 f150 with a 4.6 do this, and ended up with a few bad wrist pin bushings and needed replaced... so I just rebuilt the entire motor.
@@garyr7027 Interesting thanks
@@ajmedeiros77 not a problem. If you have one of these Honda engines, I'd highly recommend doing a scan for "soft codes" stored in the ECU for knock sensor errors. These sensors won't always trip the CEL for hard codes until it gets really bad, and will still throw the spark timing off and you won't even know it till the engine damage is done. It will take a good scan tool to do it, a code reader won't catch it. You may even need to look for knock sensor signal oscillation to catch it, then you gotta know what to look for at that. From my research, Hondas ECU systems are VERY picky at spark timing, it doesn't take much to throw it way off with high mileage engines and the detonation knock is hardly audible... very difficult to hear it. Just a little advice that I learned the hard way.
@@garyr7027 hahahaha
Walmart sells these for $10.00. Auto parts store $15.00.
It amazes me how auto stores dont sell for less than walfart.. that's all they sell smh
@@j.k.j.j.k.j.99 oil also
@@j.k.j.j.k.j.99 walmart has a higher volume than auto stores. they can buy them cheaper and sell them cheaper.
@@TeamMadcrew that's cause it's cheaper. The auto stores stock way more merch than walmart but dont sell it cause they charge more than walmart..which is my point..
Auto parts stores do combo deals sometimes for cheaper.
Thank you very much for the sound advice dear CarsNToys.
M1 oil filter is a blended cellulose/synthetic microglass media. A full synthetic media would be Royal purple, Wix XP, Amsoil, Fram Ultra, with the Wix XP being the least efficient at catching the smallest particles.
and?
M1 oil filter media is efficient and durable, but the media is more restrictive to flow than a full synthetic media. This could come into play with higher viscosity oils in cold weather at startup. Full synthetic medias such as Amsoil EaO oil filters or Fram Ultra are very efficient and still flow extremely well, but require a wire mesh reinforcement of the synthetic media pleats.
@@02hreblue30 overpriced for it's performance
You forgot the best, purolator boss
Purolator boss has best rating 99% at 20 microns
5,000k max I go on oil and Mobile 1's are 10.0 here.
I averaged 450-500 k miles on my 258 jeep with Mobile 1 filters and Castrol oil. It now has over a million miles on the rest of the jeep
Check the filtering Micron size, some of the extended life filters just let slightly larger particles pass through in order to continue filtering at extended intervals.
You are correct. I found that Amsoil limits miles on their smaller EaO series oil filters to 15,000mi/1year and the larger ones to 25,000/1year....that's using their best Signature Series oils. I am guessing that some other brands just decrease efficiency on their smallest 20k mile oil filters to make them last that long without going completely into bypass until replaced.
👍 great info!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you great research..
I use Mobile 1 filters and Walmart E-Tech full synthetic oil. Change every 5000 miles. Cheapest insurance policy you can buy for your engine.
I also use the full synthetic Super Tech, a 5 qt. jug for under $14
@@thaloszapispapos715 1
Switch to fram ultras man. The kick the hell outta those mobil 1's.
@@losi8ightyew I have seen the insides of Fram junk filters. Pure junk. You couldn't pay me to use anything made by that company.
@@herbb8547 An Ultra is not your regular fram man, they are manufactured in a totally different place than the rest of their filters. Mobil 1, Wix, napa gold, royal purple all trash compared to an ultra. Website you wanna search filters on is bobistheoilguy. They tear apart all filters, the ultra is still in the lead for filters atm other than a nice amsoil filter.
All good advice.
The MKVII Accord (03-07) manual specifies an oil change interval of 7500 miles. I've been using this exact filter on my '04 Accord for a while; Kudos to you OP for dissecting this thing to see what it would look like if I ever went that long. Although, 3k miles is all I can take before getting apprehensive.
I use these filters for a long time and run them 8 -10k in my Hondas with 0-20 Mobile 1. I've driven them hundreds of thousands of miles. I had an occasion to send an 10k plus used oil sample for testing. Looking at the results, the takeaway was the oil was well within standards in all stats. I could have probably ran it another 5 or 10k. None of my Hondas including one, my beloved 05 6-6, nearly 400k, have ever used any oil even in 100 + temperatures. Good maintenance with today's synthetic oils and filters, modern engines will run well past the rest of the car they're installed in.
The point to be made is , check your oil regularly, use good quality products and do oil changes according to the manufacturer and you’ll be good to go. I myself use the OEM Toyota filters and Supertech synthetic and change every 4 months according to the recommendation in the schedule (4mo or5k). I’m only doing about 2-2500 in four months on my 99 4Runner. Thankfully, the 5vz is easy on oil. I could easily push 6 months between changes
Napa have the napa platinum oil filters on sale this month, Regular price is $11.49, They on sale for $7.50 this month.... Mobil 1 oil filter did a great job.
Napa use rebranded WIX with extra dollars bumped on it. Supposely $5.99. Napa made price goes $15 for profit but filters are same. Lol
@@technocody9296 wrong. XP is their Platinum filter. regular NAPA not XP. Napa rips everyone off. Just buy XP. Mobil 1 is 10 bucks at Walmart
Every 5000 miles,easy to remember, 5,10,15,simple.
Yeah, same here. I don’t like the 7,500 interval because of that confusion. I tried 10,000 once with full synthetic Mobile One oil and filter. I didn’t like the appearance compared to 5,000. It may have been ok but over 200,000 miles you’re talking about 20 oil changes versus 40. That’s just $600 ($30 per DIY) difference for the added assurance of no engine failures.
You can get this filter at Walmart for $10.00.
I run this filter and synthetic in my 2016 Nissan Altima. Change every 5,000 miles. No problems. The recommended part number is a short filter, I've matched up to a taller filter. More media.
What do you mean you matched it up? Simply because the threads are the same and the gasket is the same doesn't mean the internals are the same.
the orange rubber that I know of is a natural neoprene rubber, and is the best rubber you can have on a car part or oil filter.
its Silicone btw
silicone. its even better.
@@02hreblue30 I don't happen to agree silicone is better for base gasket, it seems to be gummier, less backbone imo. I've noticed some are switching back to black gasket while keeping the "better" sealing valve
Totally agree about the high-quality oil filters. Why not spend just a little more and get a superior filter.
I use the 20k mile Mobile 1 filter and 15k mile Mobile 1 5w-20 Full Synthetic on my 2018 Rogue. It's nice changing my oil once a year, vs. 4 times a year. Plus the savings speak for itself. I rather spend $50 at Walmart for a yearly oil change than $25 every 3 months (changing it myself). Half of the cost right there!👍
On my 98 Dakota, I use the Super Tech filter and Super Tech 10w-30 High Mileage Full Synthetic. Come to find out that the Super Tech Oil is manufactured by ExxonMobil. Name brand oil at a Generic Name Price! 👍
Super Tech is cheap as well as Kirkland, Amazon etc because it has low coefficients for main antiwear and detergent additives. If you care to keep the vehicle for long time, I would rather choose Mobil, Shell, Pennzoil that are couple bucks more expensive but has better package compared to Super Tech. Thanks
I USE WIX fillers.
Wix also makes xp filters specially made for synthetic oils
I usually just use Motorcraft or Wix, but Mobil1 was what was available to me this time. A little more money than the motorcraft, but we will see how it does. I doubt there will be any difference. I always change between 3-5k
What I'm about to state I have done for over 7 years. March I change the oil filter with a Mobil 1 20K mile extended performance filter and 5/20w synthetic oil. At about 7.5k miles I change the oil, keep the same filter. Than in the next March change the oil and filter. Have NEVER had a problem.
Did you remove the filter clean it and put it back, or you left it, lick the old oil and continue with the oil filter on touched?
Thank you. I'll sleep better now.
Most excellent video. Thanks for posting. I guess the anti-drain valve you mentioned proves the point that when you change your oil and filter you should pre-fill your filter with oil if it is at all possible correct? There’s an argument out there that it’s not necessary. I figure it takes 30 seconds to do it may as well do it if you can (filter is oriented in a manner that allows you to)
It's really not necessary, however if you're paranoid about it, prime it by disabling the ignition, crank it over a for a few seconds, renable the ignition, then start it up. There's really no need to fill a oil filter, engine parts will still be oil coated after draining the oil, and oil passages will still be full. Only case it might be a reason for would be for a engine that's been run a little dry on oil, as the bearings will be out of tolerance, then it might knock some on startup until oil circulates.
@@garyr7027 - not paranoid at all about it all I know is when I start my car after changing the oil it’s as if nothing has happened because the oil filter is full. It takes another 20 seconds fill it before screwing it on. Simple case of why not. I surely wouldn’t disable the ignition and all the other stuff you speak of. Thanks for commenting
@@condor5635 my 02 accord has 295,000 plus miles, the oil filter cannot be prefilled and I never had any engine noises on startup from a new oil change. I change it every 5000 miles. That's proof it doesn't need it, just a waste of time unless you have oil pressure symptoms that requires prefilling.
@@garyr7027 - my 260k suburban can’t fill either but I do it on my Highlander. Just a habit. No big deal
Mechanics aren't going to do in order to save time. Does in make a difference. Yes but the difference is likely negligible. Still if you're the one changing your own oil, it's your time so why not? I'm retired and not in any hurry, so I often do it but sometimes I forget. In the long run it won't make any difference to me. The car will likely still be in great running condition when I may be dead and gone.
On my 4 th hemi ram 03 08 14 and 19 changed the oil every 6500 miles with Royal Purple and KN oil filter all sold around 170 thousand the 08 has 400 thousand on it from second owner and that is the truck I beat the most GO Figure
I Only use Purolator Boss oil filters' Quality Made" an they have a mesh backing also
People need to read the fine print. These companies advertise these extra long intervals, but in the fine print tell you to go by manufacture recommendations, regardless.
Also most vehicles have a severe duty interval. Like my Tundra. It is 10k mile interval. But “severe duty” which is gravel roads, stop and go traffic, short trips, towing, etc, it is 5k mile interval. Basically the long drain intervals are only for long highway driving.
Mobil 1 actually backs their claims. Read up
I appreciate the informative video, brother!
My 2013 Chrysler 200 is at 57,000 miles. The owners maintenance manual states that running conventional oil, I should change oil every 10,000 miles. I use Mobile 1 20,000 mile full synthetic oil and the Mobile 1 20,000 mile filter. I still change my oil every 10,000 miles. The mechanic just about lost his mind telling me that my motor will seize up if I dont change it at least every 5,000 miles - regardless of filter or oil type. I stopped arguing with him.
When I change my oil it still comes out relatively clean. A very light brown. Pretty sure it still has a LOT of life left, but I baby my cars. Yet every mechanic that I ever go to swears by the 1950s recommendation of "every 3,000 - 5,000 miles". I cant believe people still believe that especially with advancement in oil and engine technology... I call it a money grab.
Obviously the more often you pay to have the oil change. More money
I use Mobil 1 in a Mazda I’ve had since new. Change every 10k. 140k miles and no smoke. Good power. 36mpg at 80mph. Oil is much, much better since the days when 3k between changes was the norm.
You're not very smart are you?
yeah good luck with needing repairs
it's a Chrysler anyways junk yard car
@@punker4Real it's never had a problem since I've had it... 8 years later and it runs just as good as the day I bought it. Sorry you feel that way. I've babied it so it still runs, feels and looks new. The current value is way less than a car like this is worth - so unless I get in an accident, I foresee myself driving this for at least the next 16-20 years.
Oil and oil filter is cheap, engine not. I always change oil between 3k up to 5k . Majority of engines nowadays are Direct injection, timing chains and some with turbos, these engines rely on clean oil .
Yep i used to go 7500 or more but now I do anywhere between 3500-5000 depending on how often I drive. Top of the line oil and top of the line filter. I drive a 2011 Ram Hemi 5.7. It now runs a lot quieter and smoother. These engines are notorious for valve lifter and camshaft breakdowns so changing often helps.
Totally agree...5,000 miles is max...oil and filters are cheap vs your engine...
Look at the little hole in your hydronic lifter through which oil must travel. OH S### what was I thinking
@@Dmgolfer22 id just always go using supertech oils from walmart (cheap) because oil is oil it still lubricates but when it comes to filter i go high end kandn or mobil 1’s
I always change the oil about 20,000 miles
.never had an engine problem. The main problem was the body rusting away.
I change my oil every 5 thousand miles using mobil 1 oil and a regular Wix filter my toyota truck has 130,000 miles and is 15yrs old took the valve cover off at 100,000 and was as clean as a whistle
I change my oil every 5,000 miles. The filter I change at 10,000 miles. The oil filter integrity is still good at 10,000 miles, but I change it for peace of mind. I use Supertech full synthetic oil in combination with suertech mp filters. I've never had any issues. My oldest camry has 180,000 miles on it. The car runs and accelerates like the day I bought it.
Can you tell me how much the flow rate of this filter was diminished from when it was new until it had 15,000 miles on it? If not then your video is of no help to me.
And the bypass valve is working and not siezed up. Well, that's all well and good cause the longer you leave the filter in and the more dirt that collects in the filter the more likely the bypass valve will open. Then unfiltered oil is circulating. What's good about that?
Just change your oil every 3500-5000 miles and you will be fine. The people that want to push boundaries on how long they can use the same oil without changing it are the ones who keep the repair shops busy
Johnny best engine maintenance I’ve heard ps don’t forget the transmission
I wish people understood this. I do mine every 5000 thousand. Toyota call for 10000 and I'm thinking you guys are cutting costs. ✂️
I’m a 5k - 7k type of guy because my driving is 95% non-stressed freeway oriented!
Where is the oil analysis with particle count, viscosity, TBN and wear metals. Get bright light shine through the filter media, you will be surprised by some of these synthetic filters.
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The wrong Oil put in peoples cars can make you miserable.
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Taking "some" advice from people that don't work on Todays cars for a Living can be the Worst advice you can receive.
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Should also note the % efficiency per what micron they're using. Good video non the less 👍🏼
Mobil 1 filter are 99% + @30microns
Fram Ultra 99% @ 20 Microns.
My thinking has always heej that it a filter looks this good at 15k then I feel pretty confident pushing it to my recommended 7k if I cant find time to get it done sooner.
Is this filter ok for severe driving condition , like 10000 miles ?
Mobil 1 has a bypass valve and that is supposed to prevent the media from collapsing so the fact that the media looks good is not the issue how much unfiltered oil was going through the engine ? As it looks I think it went too far and we need a pressure test to see if the oil filter was working or was the bypass valve doing all the work
That is the only filter I run in my 08 TL type S when I couldn't get the A01 oem filters.
Ever heard of Amazon?
@@bluesky-ud9wg yeah, that's the first place I checked and they are all gone.
@@davidrodriguez5280 Get he Purolator Pure One or Boss filter
J series honda v6 likes the Mobil 1 filter
@@CRAPO2011 What does that mean, it Likes the filter? Did you ask the engine if it did? Either fun the OEM filter or a Purolator Pure One or BOSS period.
My wife uses our car for door dash. The result is, she racks up a lot of miles. I've been using Mobil One, 10k filters, Castrol Ultraclean, Synthetic blend and changing at 2,500 miles. Each change, oil and filter runs about $35 dollars. Do you know if there is any big difference between the 10k and 15k filters? Thanks man!
You are looking at the PHYSICAL properties of the filter. How do you know it has "a high efficiency rating" as you mentioned. Lab testing does that.
It says it on the box. 99%@30microns
I love Amsoil oil filter.
Me as well, that's all I use on small engines and vehicles
Used many oils at shops over several decades and amsoil is the best I have ever seen, oil and filters.
they don't make their own filters. enough said
You are correct about Amsoil. Mobil 1 extended oil filter is manufactured by MANN+HUMMEL Purolator Filters LLC.
I never leave a filter on more than 5,000 miles. Oil, 4,000 miles. Usually both are changed together at 4,000ish
They say this cuz they know it will be in the shop for a new engine !
P.s. great video by the way
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@CarsNToys yeah man, next time do a blinker fluid fix for all them out there.
The Mobil1 filter is a very good filter. I would put it roughly on a par with the other high-end filters, like Wix XP, Purolator Boss, Fram Ultra Synthetic, Amsoil, etc. It's personal preference and what you can get on sale which determines which one you buy.
I’d add Napa platinum to that list as well. All great filters.
@@ajmedeiros77 Agreed, that is a very good filter. A clone of Wix XP
respect :) in your opinion, what oil filter are you recommending for BMWs?
German or Austrian made OEM suppliers like Mann-Hummel, Knect, Mahle are all good. If you want more efficient, then there are some made by Fram XG that are more efficient than OEM, as well as a few common ones from Amsoil that are very efficient.
I think Mobil is cheapening out these filters by making thinner walls, a month after I changed the oil filter had a big oil leak, found a very small pin hole on the filter, it wasn't punctured by any foreign objects.
I Did an oil change yesterday on my friend’s Honda and noticed this exact same M1-110a oil filter anti-drain back valve is not orange color but red/slightly pink color. Any thoughts?
Different company manufacturing it for them.
Thank you for this video well done! Cheaply made oil and filter make me cringe, like the generic oil filter I took off of my 03 Accord V6 yesterday, it was the first time I changed the oil since buying the car recently. I need to get tool to cut open my oil filters.
No you just have to change your oil and filter at regular intervals..
@@exitar1 i went about 5K according to the service records from the prev owner
No you don't.
Do you know the Pentius Filter ?? Do you recommended ?? Exist XL and normal Thank you !
Ive been changing my own oil since I'd started driving. With synthetic i usually change at 5k and the filter at every other oil change so at 10k. It's really the viscosity of the oil you want to maintain. I remember doing oil change at every 3k and the oil was like water. This was in an older car where the tolerance isnt as tight as today car. The oil just breaks down so easily.
I just started doing that this week. I was changing oil and filter every 5k. So I switched to a more expensive full synthetic filter so I can skip changing the filter in the middle of the winter in my driveway and just change the filter every other oil change.
Have you got any issues by doing the filter every other oil change?
Thinking about doing the same thing with Mobil 1 filter
@@reyperez3424 No. I do filter every other and have put 100k miles on my dodge and no problems
When did opening up the oil 🛢️ filter become a thing to do if nothing else it keeps the manufacturer on their toes so keep doing it then
Honestly I like Mann hummel, wix, k&n and bosch. I change the oil every 5,000 miles. I don't see the point of running oil changes past that.
How would the Mobile 1 filter compare with OEM Honda oil filter
Hi can you open up an amsoil filter after use and do a review?
they don't make their filters.
Mobil one media is a synthetic blend and is not wire backed. 12k at most.
0:09 mark, interesting I just did my oil change today using the M110A for my 2015 Accord. The version I have only has 8 holes i believe, whereas in this video has multiple. Was there an update to these filters?
Most likely mobil just had another company make them. Mobil doesn't make their own filters.
@@digitalunit318 gotcha
is that a 4cylinder accord?
@@CRAPO2011 yes sir
What's your opinion on Bosch Premium oil filter, would you say it's good for 7,000 miles OCI using full synthetic oil?
I like Bosch filters. I've used their filters many times over the years with no issues. Cheers.
I change my oil every 3500 miles, my car has 850k miles on it and has never leaked a drop or had any problems. I change the filter every 1k miles just to be safe. If you are changing your oil every 4k miles you're just asking for problems.
Can someone explain how to properly utilize these high mileage filters rated up to 10k-20k miles? Do we leave the filters in during our interval oil changes at 3-5k miles and only replace them every other oil change? If that makes any sense?
I had the same question. Thanks for asking. Hopefully someone that is mechanically experienced can answer that question.
If you want to go the full 15-20k miles, you'll need a high TBN oil that won't turn acidic for a long time, like AMSoil. It's expensive, but it's almost twice as basic as most oils.
I use AMSoil 5w30 and a mobile 1, royal purple, or AMSoil filter on my show cars that don't get a lot of mileage, and only have to change the oil every ~5 years or so.
You didn't mention the Fram Ultra! Isn't that less $ than Mobil1?
My engines always out last my transmissions. I wish transmission changes were this easy
manufacturers are discouraging changing transmission oil by removing dip stick. lifetime transmission fluid is one of their selling points.
For many RWD/4X4 vehicles at least, aftermarket transmission pans with a drain plug are a thing you can get. Sure you have to still remove the pan to change the filter but it's a lot easier when it's already empty lol. Just lack of a dipstick tube for a fill remains an issue
5k done deal.
I wouldn’t run oil for 15k miles ever, let alone 10. 8k is pushing it IMO and 5k sweet spot for full synthetic if you plan on keeping your car for a while. Those piston rings will thank you
First time through I didn't catch the 15,000 mile oil change thing, I had to come back after my brain processed everything. WOW I agree, I was a lube tech for a bit and remember someone coming in about 8k over their due date and they had practically no oil in the sump. What was left was all black and nasty.
I don't know how the thing was still alive
You can change the oil and leave the filter no?
@@jeefberky2142 technically you can if you have a really good filter, but they’re cheap so since you’re in there might as well change it out too
@@MikeyG003 yes that is what I meant. If I have a filter rates for 15k miles as this video title suggests, then my idea is to install one of those and then use my handy oil extractor pump to suck out the old oil through the dipstick tube and pour in fresh full synthetic oil saving you both time and money. No Jack's, no Jack stands, no creepers and no mess. Do this five times every 3k miles then change the filter.
@@jeefberky2142 not a bad idea actually, I might have to get an oil extractor machine because doing oil changes on 5 cars gets pretty annoying lol. The mobil 1 filters are pretty solid and high quality
I use the regular Wix or Napa gold oil filters on my Honda's.
The Wix oil filters are one of the best.
Napa filters are just rebranded wix filters
@@pacman3908 That is so true, I also discovered that the Carquest brand oil filters are also made by Wix.
I started using Wix filters about 7yrs ago best filter for the money i buy them on eBay by the case comes out to about 5 bucks a filter Napa wants 8 bucks + for the same filter
What about the k&n billet reusable and washable oil filter think its a bout 230 £ in uk
That filter is extremely inconvenient to maintain, while it may save you money in the future on buying disposable oil filters the whole process to change it,take it apart,clean it,put it back together again takes about 30 minutes. Total pain in neck.Thats why i went back again to disposable filters.
What about bosch filters.I hear they are excellent
I like Bosch as well...ua-cam.com/video/q6C2rx3IRrQ/v-deo.html
I always use M1 EP oil and EP oil filter and change it on my G37S every 6k miles but the micron rating on the filter (99% at 30 microns) seems a tad large
Wow 6k and mobil 1 your VVEL must me making some interesting noises.
@@kostasdramoudanis2627 vvel is noisy no matter what oil you use 😂 I been using mobile 1 extended with Mobile 1 oil filter and do my oil change every 5k I have 115k no engine problems, no galley gasket either
Amsoil EA filter is 99% @ 20 microns
@@JorgeRodriguez-zd5nx if you use estor oil it doesnt make any noises 80k 2011g btw
@@kostasdramoudanis2627 what manufacturer do you run? G35 so no vvel but always looking for insight on better oils for the VQ.
Sorry but one cannot 'rate'; an engine's recirculation oil filter solely based on looks, beauty, etc.
The ONLY things that are important is:
A. Conformance to the engine manufacdturer's specification ; typically compliance to the OSU-F2 test stand for engine oil (ASTM Test Number ???) for 97% (wt.) removal (see engine spec. ) of 17µM particles at a flow rate of X with SAE 10-W30 oil of (spec. gallons per minute) recirculating at 180°F temperature.
B. The ASTM testing uses a laser counter instead of a wt. per wt. basis at the indicated 'rating' but still refers to the original 1930s OSU-F2 test stand of 97% wt. removal at the indicated µM removal 'rating'.
In most such oil filters there is essentially only ONE world supplier of the super high quality technical PAPER filter material - Ahlstrom-Munksjö Oyj is a Company of Finland.
As another poster jd5179 has so eloquently stated change the oil AT or BEFORE the engine manufacturer's recommendation; OR, change 'earlier' than recommended when in dusty ambient conditions or during extended periods of extreme engine performance. Changing the oil filter and the engine lube oil ON TIME is one of THE most important things you can do to extend the in-service life of a vehicle's engine. Other than that there's really NO magic bullets with simple oil filters --- if it meets 'spec' it doesnt matter how pretty it is or how expensive, etc. etc etc. etc. ;-)
Well said. One of the most well thought competent answers I ever read on here.
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i have a question about the microns, the higher the microns the better the oil filter? as i understand Mobil 0ne HAS THE HIGHER MICRONS?. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO. HAVE A NICE DAY
No, lower microns is better. Mobil 1 filters down to 30 microns, but Fram Ultra will filter particles as small as 20 microns.
@@LoveClassicMusic0205 thank u very much for that, that been a great help. take care.
Silly as hell these comments. They could filter down to 5 or any number if they want. Smaller is more restrictive to flow and clogs early.. Not good. Funny how everyone knows more than Exxon Mobil
I change my own oil every 2000 miles, because I can and because I work for a dealership. It’s a 1997 Acura CL.
why dont u recommend going with oem filters . they usually are same or less price than aftermarket ones. and you get peace of mind that its proper oem and will not fail? any thoughts?
Aftermarket companies make the oem filters to there specification. Any filter can fail nothing is 100%
Thanks, good thought: I suspect some OEM s have proven & tested informations on Lubrications, et al.
Because they are made by aftermarket companies & some have been found to be cheaply made. Example, the OEM Filter for my Nissan is made by FRAM...and it uses cardboard & glue for the end caps with a thin filter element just like the cheapest FRAM you can buy off the shelf...not high quality at all
I agree use genuine or OEM parts they don’t cost much more and you have peace of mind ( I have worked 40 years as a mechanic)
There is a reason a manufacturer will only warranty a vehicle for so long. They don't make them to last forever. Take the tires for instance. You can walk in firestone and get the same tire the car came with from the factory, but it's not the same exact tire. The tire the car came with was made to the manufacturer specifications. Firestone or any major tire maker make tires they sell to last longer. Point is car manufacturers will go out of business if the car lasts forever.
I change the oil in my car every 100k miles whether it needs it or not
Right!
I’ve known guys that put 8K miles on their synthetic oil and had it tested. Came back as for them to put more miles on it. For me, no more than 5K miles. I use motorcraft filter and pennzoil ultra platinum. I use to use Mobile 1 but the pennzoil ultra is far superior over mobile 1. Cost more but worth it.
Ah...a ProjectFarm student! I too, switched from Mobile One to PPU! I find it on sale at Walmart Online (not in-store) frequently for $22/5Qt jug and buy 8 bottles! Their “regular” price is ridiculous at ~ $68/5Qt bottle...
exactly. i use same combo, but every single oil analysis after break in says 8k is fine on my Ecoboost. Been doing for 8 years. No problems. PUP is awesome stuff
Media is plural.
Medium is singular.
Mobil 1 is the best my opinion
I change my oil early, don't have to worry about microns !!!!
What you are not saying is what type of service did the vehicle operate in? Short trips are severe service. Highway mileage is easy on the engine, and oil.
You Never want to let an oil filter go 15k miles. Even if using synthetic oil, change the filter at least every 5k miles and just add 1 qt of oil. Personally, I change conventional oil at 2.5k and synthetic at 5k, just to be extra cautious. Remember 15k oils and filters are in "Ideal conditions", nobody drives in ideal conditions.
What if I only drive 1000 miles per year.
I have 1999 Sienna and I use conventional 5W30 Motor Oil but use Mobile 1 oil filter.
then How often should I change my oil?
"Nobody"? I'm sure someone does. Out of the millions of drivers on the road; someone does.
You used a 20k Mobile 1 filter and you used standard Mobile 1 oil. What is it standard Mobil 1 rated for?
10k miles though it will last longer if all highway
I just installed one. Removed my old valvoline trash filter and the mechanic tightened it on way too much and the anti drain back filter was stuck. Finally got it off and installed this one with a new anti drain back.
Nothing wrong with Nitrile...how hot do you think your oil gets? With a sealing range of -30 to 250 its up to the task...much over 250 & you really need an auxiliary oil cooler. Remember micron ratings are all good, till the media clogs & the thing bypasses washing all that nice dirt right back into the engine. The marketing hype will tell you 15k, do you know that this filter here hasnt been bypassing for the last 5k? Just buy a quality filter & change your oil.
BINGO!!!!! NICE POST. Nitrile gloves are even awesome
Cleanest oil ever with thecMobile One filter
Just imagine if you tried a synthetic media filter like fram XG, Purolator Boss One, Amsoil EA... Full synthetic media filters much better than paper cellulose or blend like mobil 1. Mobil 1 filters at an efficiency rating of 99%@30 microns. Amsoil EA filter efficiency rating of 99% @ 20 microns.
99%@ what micron rating? 30? Please be specific in the micron rating, that way people can make logical decision. Nice tear down.
Different UA-cam channel does the specifics on micron specifics
Mobil 1filters are 99%+@30 microns.
Who doesn’t change their oil for that long
Pretty stupid going 15k without oil change.
I agree. I use the exact same oil and filter in my 2006 toyota matrix and I only take it to 7500 miles in between even. Oil still come out looking pretty clear but anyone who knows anything about vehicles, don't chance it.
After 20,000 miles oil samples were sent to blackstone labs and it showed it was still fully protecting the engine.
I worked with blackstone labs and did 15k intervals in my Colorado. Just changed the filter at 7500 miles. M1 Oil sill had life left. Analysis showed it was stable. Synthetic oil lasts a lot longer than people think,
Agree. 6k max on any oil for me.
Some people will change the oil but reuse the filter.
Its synthetic blend not fully synthetic
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It's fully synthetic which means is must contains no less than 25% synthetic. 100% synthetic like amsoil is all synthetic.
Depends what weight. 0w-40 Mobil is 100% synthetic.
@@mccartneystuart does it say 100% on the container? If not, then it's full synthetic. I find it hard to believe they use a completely different base oil for one single oil.
@@digitalunit318 I'm not an authority on the subject but certain classification of group oils will only receive a group IV classification if it is indeed a full synthetic like certain series of redline, RP. Amsoil, etc. The only Mobil oil that I'm aware of that gets this classification is the 0w-40 and is their euro one. Much debate on this subject by people much more informed than I am mixed with changing the criteria of group oils, many attempt to hide true values and need to be read through long data sheets. But yes depending on their application, they change base oils (ester, pao and %s thereof). Possibly for foreign car manufacturers meeting criteria for warranties.
I found out this week that full synthetic super tech oil from walmart was the cause for my 08 honda odyssey van's check engine light. I forget the exact code but it has to do with the oil pressure to the vtec stuff. I didn't worry too much about it because it didn't run any different and I didn't notice and drop in MPG. I ran it about 4 oil changes changed every time the oil change light comes on which is about 5 to 6k miles. the check engine light remained on the entire time. I did use different filters to see if that worked because some websites suggested trying that first. which it never helped. so I figured screw it, I'll live with it. a week ago it was time for an oil change. I didnt feel like going into a crowded walmart this time and picked up some of Mobil 1 truck and suv oil and a mobil 1 filter from advance auto. after about a week and probably 20 ignition cycles the check engine light is now off. this is clear evidence that the oil was the culprit. some websites did suggest changing oil brands but I though that was nonsense. well, it wasn't. I'll never use super tech oil in anything again. and anyone on the internet that says the stuff is good is WRONG. I was going by what they all had to say and this proved them all wrong. the oil doesn't actually meet ANY of the API certifications for this van's engine either. this stuff actually matters and I let people talk me into believing them that it doesn't. I knew better but now I have my proof.
I've been using super tech for a while and i have no problems. Super tech is made by Warren oil company. Tested next to big brands and competed rather well. All the same ingredients as top tier brands. All the same regulations are met. Side by side on the charts warren oil competes with the best brands on the market.
I like the amsoil ea / royal purple filters. Using Castrol edge titanium extended (yellow bottle) and liqui moly ceratec. 10k mile changes. Ceratec added every 3rd change after an oil flush.
zero evidence for any of it. Amsoil doesn't make their own filters. Please provide your superior lab based evidence. pure opinion and conjecture
Why not include Wix filters? Mann filters?
Ford F150 350,000 miles straight 6 cyl. oil and filter every 4000 miles.
If you know how your engine works you will never go beyond 8k miles.
Never? I wouldn't go that far. Actually if you were driving 20,000 miles a month then you could change your oil once a month and be fine. But I change ours every 5k even though we do mostly highway miles.
Unfiltered oil is always fed to the engine. Bypass valve is always open unless your pressure is dangerously low. 17 psi is typically max pressure allowed before it opens and is usually about 12-15.
Your engine is going bye bye if the valve isn't constantly open.
You're incorrect. That is not how an oil filter works. Oil is forced into the small holes on the top of a filter then through the media up through the center back into the engine. The bypass valve is on the exterior of the media. If the media becomes clogged, the oil would have no where to go. This is when pressure would build forcing the bypass valve at the bottom of the center of the oil filter open and allow the oil on the outside of the media another route to the center and back into the engine.
@@digitalunit318
Is there not a PSI rating where that takes place?
@@masterofnone1808 depends on the spring rating, but it's not always open as they stated. The only way the pressure inside the oil filter would build is if it were clogged or becoming blocked from particulates. That's when the bypass valve would have pressure building on the back side of it allowing oil around the media and valve back to the engine.
WRONG. Oil pickup is in pan not the filter. quit with the bullshit
LMAO
Great filter, but still can't match the Fram Ultra's 99+% efficiency down to 20 microns. The Mobil 1 is great, at 99% down to 30 microns, but that's a full 33% larger particle. So it falls short. I'm sticking with the Ultra. It does look like it held up just fine at 15k and would probably easily make it to 20. The Mobil 1 is clearly a filter you can run a long time with confidence. Great video!
Only other filter I saw at that rate is Amsoil EA.
pure conjecture and opinion. None of these tests actually compares filtration with same oil and pumping it through them then oil analysis. Believe what you may. Rest is pure opinion
12,000 miles is absolutely ridiculous. I use full synthetic and good filters in my Silverado 5.3 and go every 3500-5000 miles MAX. It’s cheap insurance.
If the manufacturer says change the oil every 3,000 miles, change the oil every 3,000 miles.
If the manufacturer says change the oil every 5,000 miles, change the oil every 3,000 miles.
If the manufacturer says change the oil every 10,000 miles, change the oil every 3,000 miles.
If the manufacturer says change the oil every 15,000 miles, change the oil every 3,000 miles.
Changing the oil every 3,000 miles costs you the price of an oil change. Extending the oil change interval can cost you an engine. Car manufacturers LOVE IT when you blow up your engine.
is motorcraft good enough? its on my old fords nothing new just old beaters
Most engine oils made nowadays are good enough, just as long as your using the proper weighted oil for your engine. Also making sure the oil institute donut is on the back of the bottle, and having the little certificate things like dexos 2, and a few others will add some brownie points.
Motorcraft filters are actually Purolator filters.
@@bluesky-ud9wg is that a good or bad thing? I've ran many different brands of oil filters over the years but on my fords i end up with motorcraft alot of the time their cheap get get the job done drive old beaters if the oil looks dirty the i get it changed. a lot of the time the mileage hasn't even met yet yeah might be a dirty engine but their old with alot of town driving.
Motorcraft is an excellent filter.
@@saleens330 Yes they are