The way that Harry just completely shuts down after you kill Larry is genuinely heart-wrenching, even if it’s played for laughs in the pacifist route, it’s obvious the two really care for each other despite all the bickering.
Yeah, these two were such a strong and tight knit duo that Harry can’t conceive a world where he lives but Larry doesn’t, he just gives up the will to live and no longer wants you to spare him.
the fact that the game gives you a *choice* to follow them fucks me up so bad. You get multiple warnings and opportunities to back down. Heavy Snowgrave vibes.
@@AvarageRpgFan Basically you free dogs by scaring them which make them panic and attack the pet with bones creating an extra bit of difficulty in the fight, after enough times they will get freed from the webs and run away, then the spiders will make like a shield by stacking on eachother and standing infront of Muffet, Muffet still dies in one hit.
Hi, i'm Larry, The newest royal tester!- How about you test the core. ...Wha?- *cutely gets pushed to the core getting eviscerated to absolute nothingness*
The three horsemen of depressing genocides One has you kill two kids and frick up someone's friends in the proccess One has you push someone off a cliff And one has you winning but at what cost?
I saw someone else say the moment before this fight was Chara questioning if the soul was theirs Kris-style, but considering the fight starts immediately after that i think that moment was more akin to Clover’s reaction to “I WAS FORCED TO NEUTRALIZE THAT HUMAN.” Chara was enraged by Larry saying they had no soul. Probably due to their implied horrible life on the surface. Maybe it reminded them of a bad memory since this point is usually where you’re supposed to get the stargaze memory
@@Alt_DiegoBrando Also considering that Chara is aware of what is happening and even aware that we seem to fumble their choices from time to time like with Asgore
@@Alt_DiegoBrando isn’t there a page in the journal that’s unlocked after this fight that has the red soul surrounded by question marks? Sounds like a piece of evidence that the soul isn’t actually Chara’s to me.
The sorta disturbing part to me about their theme in genocide is it almost has a vague deep laughter sound (Possibly Chara's) as if this is like a kid is getting revenge on two bullies. That's kinda this fight in a nutshell. We don't NEED to chase after and kill Harry and Larry, but we WANT to because it continues the ruthless route, and also because those two goons were kinda bullies to the human. It almost feels like a really twisted form of Karma for Harry and Larry to get hunted for no real reason after they taunted and tried capturing Chara for their boss.
After you push Larry off you no longer have the ability to spare harry. He watched his best friend die and no longer has the will to continue it's very sad
These guys aren’t even a threat. It fills you with a sense of sadness, but also a sense of empowerment that not only can they not hurt you, but you deplete almost all of their HP in two hits. And all they can do is watch you kill them.
Had my mouth drop when Larry fell, stayed wide open until i reached the next checkpoint. Has to be the most "spine" chilling moment of the game haha... (I feel so bad though 😥😥)
Because... It is? These two guys literally are those secondary characters in horror movies, whose death is gruesome and blood-chilling, and only a few would remember them.
"...You even have the courage to feel bad? You could have just backed down. You wanted to chase them. You wanted to corner them. You wanted to kill them. You. Wanted. This".
after sparing larry: (other the other way around) * Chara stands there, with Larry just there, * * Larry: Why? * Larry: Why me? * ... It's because it's fun. (I didn't want to.) (2nd option chose.) * Larry: ... * ... And making it just make's me smile. (That's not me.) (2nd option chose, chara twitches.) * Larry tears up. * ... All that, to make you suffer. (THAT'S NOT ME) (Chara twitches again.) * Chara starts to twitch, alot, before pulling their heart out, Larry then looks, extremely shocked, then Chara throws it at the floor, and smashes is to pieces with the Pan. (After 4th hit you die.)
@@RandomDude28109 that definitely would be an interesting gimmick, you have to kill Larry to progress in the game. But I will say, the options Chara doesn’t want to say are a bit too elaborate and direct. Every time Frisk (who I assume is the one changing the dialogue) takes control of them, the things they say are always short and around 2 words at most. I feel like the dialogue would be more like them saying “Its fun” over and over.
There is this small comic where after Chara spare Larry, he tries to push them off the cliff, but Chara just endup killing Harry the same by pushing him
This is so messed up. They give you multiple warnings to back off if you dont then you need to fight them but the messed up part is where you push Larry off the cliff and Harry is just giving up after he falls
This just *sounds* like a ballroom dance with death, with what I can only assume is Chara's laughter in the background and the mumbled panic of the Boogiemen
I wonder if it was intentional that the strings that come in at 0:32 sound like a Low HP noise (the one that comes to mind for me is Super Paper Mario's) because of how the fight revolves around Harry and Larry desperately healing when they get low.
1: I like to think that the disturbing music isn’t theirs but rather yours in the perspective of them fighting you. Like, this is YOUR boss music FOR THEM Y’know? 2: is anyone gonna talk about the laugh’s in the background of this song? Genuinely sort of terrifying when you start thinking of it
Honestly, pushing them off the edge was the first thing I thought about. Like, I thought, “Okay, I’m sure I can just kill them normally… but what if *yeet?”*
I love this song. The way she fits the mood of the fight is perfect. The boogiemen are literally standing on the edge. They are fighting for their lives and this song describes their despair. How they try to find a way out of here. Best Track TS! Underswap
If I was cornered in the depths of a cave and face-to-face with a murderous human that wanted nothing more than to watch me and my buddy turn to dust, I'd be pretty peeved about the banging tunes too
@@TheFluffiestPrince koffin-k is still alive too. i'm don't like the idea that larry lived, cause that takes away from the emotion of this part. but a koffin-k and larry fight would go hard as hell
I predict someone will definitely come here and drop a cliche comment about le good old days when PG3D "wasn't P2W-oriented." But the truth is that it has always been attempting to make you steal your mom's credit card. Back then, you literally could not obtain more than 4 weapons without paying. The difference between the old era and modern era is that they are more open about it in the latter, but at the same time, they have reformed a bit and offered the players an option to deviate from the P2W path: 140 gems for coming first in Crystal League clan war, obtaining 150 gems, 100 Pixel Pass Tickets, or modules from watching 30 ads, 30 gems from watching 5 ads (assuming this data from 10 months ago is up to date).
This comes at a cost of forming your own path of pointless grindfest, however, with Lotto grinding being useless when it comes to potential parts for weapons and such in a Fighter's, now currently being 15 parts per event weapon, and most Legendary and Epic weapons now requiring you collect 250 parts to craft them. Sets have been changed to 'Pick a card, any card' in which you have 8 cards. New weapons in Sets have cards at 200 each, with your first one being 20% off, or 160 gems. If it's an old set, it'll be 100-80. Trader's Van prices have also in-flated, with most Mythical weapons, mid or not, being anywhere from 500 to 800. It is apparently a part of their strategy: Exhausting you from performing tedious tasks & grinding off for keys and the Pixel Pass everyday, which makes you grow desperate enough to eventually succumb to the credit card.
Nono, monsters in UT aren't evil (even those who try to be evil, like koffin-k, aren't real threats). We are the demon that comes even when no one calls out their name.
...no retreat... ...can't escape...near/here... ...monster attacks That's what I hear Could either be Chara threatening them or Harry and Larry panicking
"...The nightmare has consumed us before we escape..." "...The nightmare has ended, and the terror begins..." "...To Awaken the end..." "...To be the Monster from the surface..."
i THINK i hear "story" near the end of the first line (MAYBE "to speak at the end of the first line too) and "a nightmare" at the start of the second line, third line i have no fucking clue and fourth line, as aguynotnamedx said "monster from the surface" (maybe "a monster has surfaced") perhaps??
why is there a balloon boy laugh??? jokes aside this is a chilling theme that perfectly fits the scene. Or alternatively, the scene engraved the theme into my brain as being terrifying.
The way that Harry just completely shuts down after you kill Larry is genuinely heart-wrenching, even if it’s played for laughs in the pacifist route, it’s obvious the two really care for each other despite all the bickering.
It's like the old "Only when that person is gone,you do recognize how much you cared about them"
@@xxsegaxx People tend to take things for granted, that includes people.
Yeah, these two were such a strong and tight knit duo that Harry can’t conceive a world where he lives but Larry doesn’t, he just gives up the will to live and no longer wants you to spare him.
the fact that the game gives you a *choice* to follow them fucks me up so bad. You get multiple warnings and opportunities to back down. Heavy Snowgrave vibes.
If you think that's fuck up why Dont you do *Act on muffet fight (genocide)
Plus it's the only way for you to continue genocide
(you will be called a failure if you decide against catching to them)
Seriously the if they changed the forward option to proceed it would actually just be the snowgrave route
@@ramliothman4634wym?, i never checked the options from the genocide/Ruthless route of muffet battle, what it has?
@@AvarageRpgFan Basically you free dogs by scaring them which make them panic and attack the pet with bones creating an extra bit of difficulty in the fight, after enough times they will get freed from the webs and run away, then the spiders will make like a shield by stacking on eachother and standing infront of Muffet, Muffet still dies in one hit.
Damn Larry just became Wing Gaster the royal scientist
Hi, I'm wing Larry, the royal scienti- how was the fall?
This is Sparta
Pog
Hi, i'm Larry, The newest royal tester!-
How about you test the core.
...Wha?-
*cutely gets pushed to the core getting eviscerated to absolute nothingness*
LARRY NOOOO!!!!
-harry, 2024
This is my fav genocide fight in this game so far. Like this is actually chilling, harry and larry are desperately fighting for their life
Honestly, you gotta feel bad for them. (Note: I haven't played ST!Underswap yet.)
@@Mecha_Neon9424you’re right in saying that. They didn’t deserve their fate
@@Mecha_Neon9424you were curious about 'goon la goon' huh?
ts underswap,deltatraveler and undertale yellow are basically the three horsemen of undertale fan games imo
Green sans is conquest
@@Kajlj5000real fuck green sans
@@Kajlj5000real
Weed sans is peak❗❗❗❗❗❗
@@chinelagaming true...
The three horsemen of depressing genocides
One has you kill two kids and frick up someone's friends in the proccess
One has you push someone off a cliff
And one has you winning but at what cost?
I saw someone else say the moment before this fight was Chara questioning if the soul was theirs Kris-style, but considering the fight starts immediately after that i think that moment was more akin to Clover’s reaction to “I WAS FORCED TO NEUTRALIZE THAT HUMAN.” Chara was enraged by Larry saying they had no soul. Probably due to their implied horrible life on the surface. Maybe it reminded them of a bad memory since this point is usually where you’re supposed to get the stargaze memory
its hinted at in the library. chara really has no soul. they died on the fall. the corpse frisk theory is canon here
@@noobfart There is literally 0 evidence for this.
@@Alt_DiegoBrando Also considering that Chara is aware of what is happening and even aware that we seem to fumble their choices from time to time like with Asgore
@@Alt_DiegoBrando isn’t there a page in the journal that’s unlocked after this fight that has the red soul surrounded by question marks?
Sounds like a piece of evidence that the soul isn’t actually Chara’s to me.
@@cantmakeacreativename2072 this also can happen on pacifist if you go to the library and check the books about souls
These characters are such goofy and funny characters, that when they get serious, you know they dont want to die.
The sorta disturbing part to me about their theme in genocide is it almost has a vague deep laughter sound (Possibly Chara's) as if this is like a kid is getting revenge on two bullies.
That's kinda this fight in a nutshell. We don't NEED to chase after and kill Harry and Larry, but we WANT to because it continues the ruthless route, and also because those two goons were kinda bullies to the human. It almost feels like a really twisted form of Karma for Harry and Larry to get hunted for no real reason after they taunted and tried capturing Chara for their boss.
You captured the feeling of this song exactly
yeah and like I THINK megalo strike back starts playing after the laughter
That’s Koffin K’s laugh. It’s the same sound effect.
After you push Larry off you no longer have the ability to spare harry. He watched his best friend die and no longer has the will to continue it's very sad
These guys aren’t even a threat. It fills you with a sense of sadness, but also a sense of empowerment that not only can they not hurt you, but you deplete almost all of their HP in two hits. And all they can do is watch you kill them.
Ironic, because their whole fight revolves around what they CAN do: teamwork (healing eachother)
@@attackeh it’s called delaying the inevitable
@@aresrivera9744 but they CAN do something
@@attackeh yeah in the same way axis, try blocking your attacks until you went super saiyan in undertale yellow
@@aresrivera9744 at least axis can fight back and kill you a few times. Whereas on Larry and Harry, it's pretty hard to die
Had my mouth drop when Larry fell, stayed wide open until i reached the next checkpoint.
Has to be the most "spine" chilling moment of the game haha...
(I feel so bad though 😥😥)
ut/dr and its fanworks: hey what if we made these funny comic relief characters and gave them the most heartbreaking death scene you could imagine
Am I the only one who thinks this goes hard?
Absolutely not.
This song is fire 🔥
It’s very good. Haunting.
I'm feeling some thriller night vibes coming from this
Because... It is?
These two guys literally are those secondary characters in horror movies, whose death is gruesome and blood-chilling, and only a few would remember them.
@@Stephan_Is_Realit’s ironic because they themselves are classic horror movie monsters facing down a 90s slasher villain
@@meowmew- Imagine a fight between Michael Myers and Frankenstein's monster + classic werewolf. This is literally it.
@@meowmew-that's sound like an good concept for something
"...You even have the courage to feel bad? You could have just backed down. You wanted to chase them. You wanted to corner them. You wanted to kill them. You. Wanted. This".
Yeah I wanted to see them turn to dust
Yeah, I wanted to make a "how was the fall?" joke. Judge me.
@@R816-kn8xq Well... I'd say it fell flat.
@@marcosseverini5297 badum tsss
@@marcosseverini5297
THAT WAS REALLY.... CLEVER.
okay but imagine how cruel it would be if you were able to spare harry after pushing larry
after sparing larry: (other the other way around)
* Chara stands there, with Larry just there, *
* Larry: Why?
* Larry: Why me?
* ... It's because it's fun. (I didn't want to.) (2nd option chose.)
* Larry: ...
* ... And making it just make's me smile. (That's not me.) (2nd option chose, chara twitches.)
* Larry tears up.
* ... All that, to make you suffer. (THAT'S NOT ME) (Chara twitches again.)
* Chara starts to twitch, alot, before pulling their heart out, Larry then looks, extremely shocked, then Chara throws it at the floor, and smashes is to pieces with the Pan. (After 4th hit you die.)
@@RandomDude28109 that definitely would be an interesting gimmick, you have to kill Larry to progress in the game.
But I will say, the options Chara doesn’t want to say are a bit too elaborate and direct. Every time Frisk (who I assume is the one changing the dialogue) takes control of them, the things they say are always short and around 2 words at most. I feel like the dialogue would be more like them saying “Its fun” over and over.
Someone said there's a comic of that and I looked it up
There is this small comic where after Chara spare Larry, he tries to push them off the cliff, but Chara just endup killing Harry the same by pushing him
@@cantmakeacreativename2072 I feel like Frisk is probably one of the temmies
This is so messed up.
They give you multiple warnings to back off if you dont then you need to fight them but the messed up part is where you push Larry off the cliff and Harry is just giving up after he falls
These guys are so goofy, so when both died, I felt... guilty, really fucking guilty.
I felt good because i dislike both
@@elchicoproplayer777 how can I kill you when you have no soul?
@@elchicoproplayer77710 years without parole
@@NotZekrom koffin Is ok
@@elchicoproplayer777HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY DISLIKE THOSE TWO😨
Larry looks way too menacing for such a goober
sounds like the type of shit they play in haunted houses
Damn, why do our homicidal and sadistic tendencies have such a banger theme?
fr
Larry is wobbling…
Maybe…
❤ Push
@@Dryjotaro
Larry: RUUUHHHHHH
Harry : LARRY!!!!
Harry : ...
@@lenguyenthithanhchi2167 Chara: Well, he’s in Toronto now.
Harry: *sniff* What..?
Chara: Niagara Falls.
Harry: *sobbing uncontrollably*
WE BE PUSHING LARRY OFF THE CLIFF WITH THIS ONE🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
*1000 yard stare*
You monster.
No bro
How was the fall?
@@This_Guy_Exists welcome to the underground!
Papyrus 2023:
This just *sounds* like a ballroom dance with death, with what I can only assume is Chara's laughter in the background and the mumbled panic of the Boogiemen
it loops pretty well
i get that this is supposed to be a intense and sad scene.
how the hell are they sweating from their hats
Those aren't hats, those are part of their bodies.
@@nagitoman ooh that makes sense
listen, this is an Undertale Fangame, the same game that has a skeleton sweating.
@@Virtual_Garbage I mean, at least the sweat was where you would think it would be
They are cartoon characters
I wonder if it was intentional that the strings that come in at 0:32 sound like a Low HP noise (the one that comes to mind for me is Super Paper Mario's) because of how the fight revolves around Harry and Larry desperately healing when they get low.
This is one of the fights i felt sad
considering their size compared to yours it somehow feels even worse that you’re the one with the high ground in this situation
1: I like to think that the disturbing music isn’t theirs but rather yours in the perspective of them fighting you. Like, this is YOUR boss music FOR THEM Y’know?
2: is anyone gonna talk about the laugh’s in the background of this song? Genuinely sort of terrifying when you start thinking of it
I remember someone saying that it's probably Chara's laughter in this track.
not just the laugh, but the whispering in the background too makes it all the more unnerving.
they cooked with this one
The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
That phrase will haunt you when you the context.
I the context
Is person above the context?
@@taraktaras7327 The context is a...
Well spoilers..
You push Larry off a cliff.
nah that shit diabolical
@@MegaDude10 After seeing it multiple times, that joke really
Fell off
it took me way longer than id like to admit to figure out i had to push larry off the cliff, i spent 20 minutes on this fight lmao
Same
Honestly, pushing them off the edge was the first thing I thought about. Like, I thought, “Okay, I’m sure I can just kill them normally… but what if *yeet?”*
somehow I not only decided to kill larry first, but immediately got the memo when it said "maybe..."
That will be even more evil if Harry's name would be yellow after Larry fell
Then after walking away there’s text saying that you gained exp anyway
I imagine Harry would kill himself by falling too if that happened
You guys are evil, it's probably why susie disintegrates the soul in gg!underfell when you do that
I love this song. The way she fits the mood of the fight is perfect. The boogiemen are literally standing on the edge. They are fighting for their lives and this song describes their despair. How they try to find a way out of here.
Best Track TS! Underswap
are songs shes or was that a typo
The two people that disliked are harry and larry
If I was cornered in the depths of a cave and face-to-face with a murderous human that wanted nothing more than to watch me and my buddy turn to dust, I'd be pretty peeved about the banging tunes too
Wdym dislikes, no one can see em.
@@EmikaYamane7521 You can get an extension that brings back dislikes
@@Finn_Exists0 not everyone use extensions buddy
@@EmikaYamane7521 Ik, but it exists 🤷♂
There is no way the both of them give so low exp, larry definitely survived the fall
The whole scene before the fight is litterally them being desperate because they have no escape other than fighting you. He sadly didn't survive
@@minestar2247No, he caught a root and became ultra instinct phase 2 Larry, he's actually gonna be the ruthless route final boss
@@TheFluffiestPrince koffin-k is still alive too. i'm don't like the idea that larry lived, cause that takes away from the emotion of this part. but a koffin-k and larry fight would go hard as hell
@@EEE.654 I like to imagine that Larry survived, and is trying to hunt you down, finds you, chickens out, gets cornered, and dies for real.
This ost sounds like something that would come out of pixel gun 3D
I predict someone will definitely come here and drop a cliche comment about le good old days when PG3D "wasn't P2W-oriented."
But the truth is that it has always been attempting to make you steal your mom's credit card. Back then, you literally could not obtain more than 4 weapons without paying.
The difference between the old era and modern era is that they are more open about it in the latter, but at the same time, they have reformed a bit and offered the players an option to deviate from the P2W path: 140 gems for coming first in Crystal League clan war, obtaining 150 gems, 100 Pixel Pass Tickets, or modules from watching 30 ads, 30 gems from watching 5 ads (assuming this data from 10 months ago is up to date).
This comes at a cost of forming your own path of pointless grindfest, however, with Lotto grinding being useless when it comes to potential parts for weapons and such in a Fighter's, now currently being 15 parts per event weapon, and most Legendary and Epic weapons now requiring you collect 250 parts to craft them. Sets have been changed to 'Pick a card, any card' in which you have 8 cards.
New weapons in Sets have cards at 200 each, with your first one being 20% off, or 160 gems. If it's an old set, it'll be 100-80. Trader's Van prices have also in-flated, with most Mythical weapons, mid or not, being anywhere from 500 to 800.
It is apparently a part of their strategy: Exhausting you from performing tedious tasks & grinding off for keys and the Pixel Pass everyday, which makes you grow desperate enough to eventually succumb to the credit card.
what
@@simoni73 Just rantin' about the myth of PG3D being "Free2Play back in the good old days," as well its current state.
Genuinely goes hard
the only fight i didnt want to do
we be getting cornered with this one..
The Background gives me a flashback to Super Smash Bros melee space arena and, you know what happens next...
"Larry is wobbling. I wonder..."
maybe...
Fun fact: Thi song is actually called "Monster Bash", which is what they should do to you for doing that to these guys, you monster
Nono, monsters in UT aren't evil (even those who try to be evil, like koffin-k, aren't real threats). We are the demon that comes even when no one calls out their name.
@@R816-kn8xq but, someone did call the name of the demon
"They are standing on the edge"
"What else could i do?"
This track is low key kinda fire
0:48 dont tell me im the only one who got that reference its so obvious
The piano part reminds me a lot of the soundtrack of Plague Inc. especially the neurax worm theme
perfect loop
Flash game ahh beat 😭🙏
it does go hard tho
@@aaronnoesoriginal I know
World's hardest game type beat.
it sounds like there's speech in this. what's evne being said..
From what I'm hearing, it's "the nightmare has ended, there's no Retreat
...no retreat...
...can't escape...near/here...
...monster attacks
That's what I hear
Could either be Chara threatening them or Harry and Larry panicking
I can also hear "no going back" or possibly maniac
"...The nightmare has consumed us before we escape..."
"...The nightmare has ended, and the terror begins..."
"...To Awaken the end..."
"...To be the Monster from the surface..."
i THINK i hear "story" near the end of the first line (MAYBE "to speak at the end of the first line too) and "a nightmare" at the start of the second line, third line i have no fucking clue and fourth line, as aguynotnamedx said "monster from the surface" (maybe "a monster has surfaced") perhaps??
I hated doing this so much
why is there a balloon boy laugh???
jokes aside this is a chilling theme that perfectly fits the scene. Or alternatively, the scene engraved the theme into my brain as being terrifying.
Classic horror monsters vs a serial killer
Why this serious dark music is file name is named after a location from Spongebob ?
I think the real song name is "monster bash"
@@ViniciusDiasissy but the name in rhe game files is called goo_la_goon
@@brawlgracz7347 you know how devs are, their normal theme song in the files is called idiot.ogg
the theme plays when they start taking things seriously
Bro I do love dropping Undertoad Luigi off the canyon just like that
No matter how powerful the blow is, and how light the Patarens attack compared to cross bones, still do not attack the child or you will be killed
Song that plays when you see your best friend die
this song sounds like it would be something from OFF, not an undertale boss theme
me when someone says goon
I did this once.
Then I went back after...
Larry Answers the question
How was the fall?
Yo why this a bop tho
Kinda reminds me of octo expansion
Goon
Worst fight of them all. This game did a good job making me hate genocide.
i legitimately quit
how was the fall?
I goon
oyasumi oyasumi
What happens if you spare them here?
They can take back their breath and your ruthless is aborted
they run for their lives
You also get a Evacuation like Ending
Only single line of Dialogue
I dont find this creepy or scary in any way. Am I weird?
Nah, I think its supposed to portray the fear of Harry and Larry rather than Yours.
@@Ghostmare_says_merry_notxmas oh
nah, you're RUTHLESS.
@@SubterfugeIfaLOSERWasSingingIt
human, i remember you're RUTHLESS'S
Quora ahh question😭
How was the fall?