I owned earlier iterations of the Multistrada Pikes Peak and Multistrada Emduro and, at first glance, wasn’t sure about all the new tech and gizmos on the new bikes. Then, I got to follow a factory rider around the Italian countryside riding the new Pikes Peak and bought one. As one can see and hear from your footage, the engine and the bike overall really come alive when you become more comfortable and begin to push on a bit. The Pikes Peak behaves like a slightly taller and more comfortable Panigale. The Grand Tour does represent a departure from previous touring models, which as you mentioned were the standard bike with accessories included in the purchase price. It’s also good that versions are evolving as Ducati receives owners’ feedback. (For instance, they are offering a free retrofit ventilated phone compartment for the Multistrada V4 as well as a version of the suspension preload release). Great video, as always, and I am sure Chris is eating his hat.
"Free retrofit" Nope gotta get it through your local dealer only for the dealer to charge you $100 for every 30 minutes in which they'll claim this is a 1 hour job so this becomes a $200 part.
The MS V4s is an amazing road bike. The engine is incredible as are the electronics. Surely one of the best in the market. The GS R1250 22 is brilliant also and has shaft drive yet lacking in power by a fair bit. Given the market here at the moment we are talking about USD10k difference between the two. So, the GS is still the best option for your buck and the lack of power is a bonus in consumption and tire wear. I am a Ducati rider for many years but stopped when the pricing of V4s went through the roof. Well done BMW for staying with a rider rather than the money bags! Just saying….
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The problem with BMW is the RELIABILITY, same as cars, and yes, I know is incredible, but Ducati have less problems
It doesn't - it still gets the smaller gas tank. It doesn't get the rear cylinder deactivation while moving that the V4 Rally has. V4 Rally is the way to go!
@@danteg521 Missed opportunity here. The Grand Tour should have gotten a larger 30L fuel tank and the Rally's cylinder deactivation to go along with the 19" front wheel and pannier set.
I lived in the adjacent Toscana for years. Apart from the clear and present danger posed to bikers on the road there, I loved it, and hooned around on my z500 as happy as can be. Where is that amazing bar place you visited? Address please. I'm going to Florence next month and a trip out to there would be great.
No, pretty sure that's just the option catalogue thrown at the bike, which may be cheaper than optioning a Travel and Radar model. Paint and swing arm are the unique. No rear cylinder deactivation is an odd one to leave out. Very tempting though... 2024 will be interesting year.
i don't see how cylinder de-activation is a good thing, that just screams problems further down the road when you consistently do not use the rear cylinders.
@@fs5866 i'm guessing its a similar system a lot of cars have had for a while where it only shuts off half the cylinders under super light throttle like in steady cruising , can't say ive heard many if any problems arise because of this system.
The most fatal competitor of V4s is Pikes Peak 😂 I can’t justify the price of V4s variants. Maybe that’s why V4s except Pikes Peak often has a deep discount. In Korea, there’s almost $10,000 promotion.
I’m guessing the GT is a bigger diff in European trim. This appears equipped same as my 22’ MS V4S Sport, except maybe the accessory lights. All other features were standard in US in 22’, but they didn’t sell Base in US
Indeed, around 35-40% more than the KTM 1290 Adventure S. The Multi V4S is more technical advanced, rides a little better but the 1290 has more punch in the lower RPM and is much cheaper to buy and to run.
The Multistrada V4S, and also the new GT, DO HAVE rear cylinder cut out, but only when stationary. So at idle you only have the two front cylinders firing then the rear two chime in seamlessly. The fuel tank is the same size as the standard MSV4S. Whether the MSV4 is the right bike for you depends on what you want. If you are happy with only 135 BHP then BMW is adequate, if you don't mind the extra weight and you only want comfort the the Triumph might do the job. We are all different, and we want different things, choose the one that puts the biggest smile on your face.
From the local dealer I am told in Canada the factory warranty is only two years and no extended warranty is available from Ducati. Is this accurate? For the cost of this bike and the complexity I am reasonably concerned about having this bike past the two year mark without a factory warranty. Otherwise this bike has a lot of appeal.
At the moment the 1290 adventure S is 11.000,- euro's cheaper than the normal Multi V4S, so I doubt it will be a best-seller. Also, the 1290 solved the problem where you where cooking your nuts.
Q: How do you know most economies globally are headed for recession? A: Every brand from Apple to Ducati is putting out ‘bold new graphics’ & hype master sh1te and pretending it’s business as usual. It’s not. Come back in a couple of years’ time folks.😜
what is the point of going toa 17 inch wheel if we are casual riders, even if we enjoy some twisties and speed? isn't this the reason that Ducati went to a 19 front? noone really needs 17 unless you go to track, right? that is why only RS and PP get the 17. otherwise it is not just useless, counter prductive in the sense of road bumbs harder, but also tiring as you need to actually lean more in town, to turn. facts speak of themselves, ducati has identified what the market actually needs and gave us that. i crashed my v4s as i was going in a turn like min 5:45 with 85kmh and i think i reduced throttle which threw me off low side. Then i went to a 1290gt to try 1 17 inch wheel. God, useless unless you go to track. I also need to lean more in the actual back roads which have sometimes gravel or little rocks etc, increasing my risk. I am selling it and going back to a V4S or I dont know what else is there. Love this guy's reviews btw. he is so knowledgable..
Same Pig with a different Lipstick! When all said and done, $35,000 USD! I’d rather have the Harley Road Glide Special or BMW R1250RT or K1600 or the GoldWing for touring and save some money on top. Who wants to maintain a Chain while traveling???
way too expensive for what it is, not really worth it, just get the standard model and put everything else you need aftermarket, at least you'll end up saving a couple thousands.
I owned earlier iterations of the Multistrada Pikes Peak and Multistrada Emduro and, at first glance, wasn’t sure about all the new tech and gizmos on the new bikes. Then, I got to follow a factory rider around the Italian countryside riding the new Pikes Peak and bought one. As one can see and hear from your footage, the engine and the bike overall really come alive when you become more comfortable and begin to push on a bit. The Pikes Peak behaves like a slightly taller and more comfortable Panigale. The Grand Tour does represent a departure from previous touring models, which as you mentioned were the standard bike with accessories included in the purchase price. It’s also good that versions are evolving as Ducati receives owners’ feedback. (For instance, they are offering a free retrofit ventilated phone compartment for the Multistrada V4 as well as a version of the suspension preload release). Great video, as always, and I am sure Chris is eating his hat.
"Free retrofit" Nope gotta get it through your local dealer only for the dealer to charge you $100 for every 30 minutes in which they'll claim this is a 1 hour job so this becomes a $200 part.
As I mentioned, the part is free of charge.
@@bsmukler It isn't, otherwise Ducati would ship it out for customers to install themselves.
Rather keep my Tiger 1200 Rally Pro, cheaper, better MPG, all the bits I need and one of the comfiest bikes for touring I’ve ever ridden.
They’re good aren’t they - plus we get shaft drive & after the latest software update lowered suspension at the touch of a button go Triumph! 🇬🇧
@@andrewshore262not sure why you’re waving a union jack, large parts of triumph are Chinese built, nothing wrong with that, but true British it isn’t
Made in Hinckley 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 check yourself
I really the silver black passenger foot pegs, once again Ducati shows why the Italians are world leaders lol
"Engine heat Should be okay if you're not riding in 30 degree heat" 😂 I ride in 40 degrees. I guess not my bike
The MS V4s is an amazing road bike. The engine is incredible as are the electronics. Surely one of the best in the market. The GS R1250 22 is brilliant also and has shaft drive yet lacking in power by a fair bit. Given the market here at the moment we are talking about USD10k difference between the two. So, the GS is still the best option for your buck and the lack of power is a bonus in consumption and tire wear. I am a Ducati rider for many years but stopped when the pricing of V4s went through the roof. Well done BMW for staying with a rider rather than the money bags! Just saying….
The problem with BMW is the RELIABILITY, same as cars, and yes, I know is incredible, but Ducati have less problems
It’s not 24 years of the V4 it’s 24 years of the Ducati Multistrada !!
It's not 24 years of either it's 20 years of the multistrada!!
Considering it's 20 years of multistrada I expected more than a parts bin
yes - possibly the most advanced motorcycle in the world is parts bin. What were they thinking?
Ok, Chad has the best job ever!
I was going to get the new bmw gs1300 but now I am aiming for a ducati multistrada. Never thought I own a Duc....here I come Ducati...
quite frankly two great bikes but the Ducati is on top hands down for me.
You didn't mention it but I really hope the "Grand Tour" gets the larger fuel tank. If not, the Rally would be my pick.
It doesn't - it still gets the smaller gas tank. It doesn't get the rear cylinder deactivation while moving that the V4 Rally has. V4 Rally is the way to go!
the rally is the true grand tour
@@danteg521 Missed opportunity here. The Grand Tour should have gotten a larger 30L fuel tank and the Rally's cylinder deactivation to go along with the 19" front wheel and pannier set.
The color makes it look so mean !
Definitely a predator to adventure road
I lived in the adjacent Toscana for years. Apart from the clear and present danger posed to bikers on the road there, I loved it, and hooned around on my z500 as happy as can be. Where is that amazing bar place you visited? Address please. I'm going to Florence next month and a trip out to there would be great.
No, pretty sure that's just the option catalogue thrown at the bike, which may be cheaper than optioning a Travel and Radar model. Paint and swing arm are the unique. No rear cylinder deactivation is an odd one to leave out. Very tempting though... 2024 will be interesting year.
i don't see how cylinder de-activation is a good thing, that just screams problems further down the road when you consistently do not use the rear cylinders.
@@fs5866 i'm guessing its a similar system a lot of cars have had for a while where it only shuts off half the cylinders under super light throttle like in steady cruising , can't say ive heard many if any problems arise because of this system.
The most fatal competitor of V4s is Pikes Peak 😂 I can’t justify the price of V4s variants. Maybe that’s why V4s except Pikes Peak often has a deep discount. In Korea, there’s almost $10,000 promotion.
Hi there, what is the fuel consumption, please? Ideal compared to S1000XR, SAS 1290. Thank you.
Been getting around 42 mpg on 2024 Rally
The Rally for me.
Dream❤❤
I’m guessing the GT is a bigger diff in European trim. This appears equipped same as my 22’ MS V4S Sport, except maybe the accessory lights. All other features were standard in US in 22’, but they didn’t sell Base in US
No no-you can see how good the road is😂
LMFAO at people willing to drop 24k (nealy 50k of our pacific pesos) on a bike and moaning about running costs and petrol.
I want one.
This bike is just like my 2020 v4s with a different color way, and it does have the rear cylinder cut off.
Why haven’t they fitted the rear cylinder deactivation to this model?
They did…
do you have to push the preload button every time you want to lower it? So at every intersection you have to push the button?
elephant in the room - fuel consumption is insane....
Indeed, around 35-40% more than the KTM 1290 Adventure S. The Multi V4S is more technical advanced, rides a little better but the 1290 has more punch in the lower RPM and is much cheaper to buy and to run.
The Multistrada V4S, and also the new GT, DO HAVE rear cylinder cut out, but only when stationary. So at idle you only have the two front cylinders firing then the rear two chime in seamlessly. The fuel tank is the same size as the standard MSV4S. Whether the MSV4 is the right bike for you depends on what you want. If you are happy with only 135 BHP then BMW is adequate, if you don't mind the extra weight and you only want comfort the the Triumph might do the job. We are all different, and we want different things, choose the one that puts the biggest smile on your face.
Almost perfect, needs the 8 gallon tank off the Rally😎
From the local dealer I am told in Canada the factory warranty is only two years and no extended warranty is available from Ducati. Is this accurate? For the cost of this bike and the complexity I am reasonably concerned about having this bike past the two year mark without a factory warranty. Otherwise this bike has a lot of appeal.
Awesome review 👍
I stay solid to my 2004 mod. Just love her. Modern mopeds not for me 😂
They will be queueing for miles at the Welsh Ducati dealerships to get this bike..Oh wait did you say 20MPH?
Preload button you have to press to lower the bike, why is that not automatic like HD Pan America, come on Ducati!!!
Or like the GS!
When it’s cold and raining, do those ducts for cooling air turn into cold shower heads for the rider?
I think you can close them
@@RobbieDee-nf4nk Interesting. Where did you read that?
Grand Tour, top case???
Have they fixed the terrible fuel range yet ?
Only on the Rally with 8 gallon tank
At the moment the 1290 adventure S is 11.000,- euro's cheaper than the normal Multi V4S, so I doubt it will be a best-seller. Also, the 1290 solved the problem where you where cooking your nuts.
It's cheaper for a reason.
@@ferociousfrankie My 1290 SAS is miles better than my 1260 Pikes peak was in several areas, dont get me started lol
My 1290 SAS still cooks my nuts lol
@@b1gd312 what year?
Chain drive, small tank, thirsty engine, better options for less money if you’re after an ADV tourer
Chains are such a challenge 😅
Ad Ducati
So it's a rally that doesn't go offroad :))))
The only option missing is a shaft drive…….
Which wont help its weight
Please drag race
Nice bike but £24k and poor fuel consumption. I think ill stick with my trusty 1260 DVT which does 95% of the stuff this model does.
Q: How do you know most economies globally are headed for recession?
A: Every brand from Apple to Ducati is putting out ‘bold new graphics’ & hype master sh1te and pretending it’s business as usual.
It’s not. Come back in a couple of years’ time folks.😜
Great review but it's not a pretty bike 😉
what is the point of going toa 17 inch wheel if we are casual riders, even if we enjoy some twisties and speed? isn't this the reason that Ducati went to a 19 front? noone really needs 17 unless you go to track, right? that is why only RS and PP get the 17. otherwise it is not just useless, counter prductive in the sense of road bumbs harder, but also tiring as you need to actually lean more in town, to turn. facts speak of themselves, ducati has identified what the market actually needs and gave us that. i crashed my v4s as i was going in a turn like min 5:45 with 85kmh and i think i reduced throttle which threw me off low side. Then i went to a 1290gt to try 1 17 inch wheel. God, useless unless you go to track. I also need to lean more in the actual back roads which have sometimes gravel or little rocks etc, increasing my risk. I am selling it and going back to a V4S or I dont know what else is there. Love this guy's reviews btw. he is so knowledgable..
Same Pig with a different Lipstick! When all said and done, $35,000 USD! I’d rather have the Harley Road Glide Special or BMW R1250RT or K1600 or the GoldWing for touring and save some money on top. Who wants to maintain a Chain while traveling???
No, more like $28k USD 😮
way too expensive for what it is, not really worth it, just get the standard model and put everything else you need aftermarket, at least you'll end up saving a couple thousands.
Im sure this bike is great to ride, but for me I think it might be the ugliest in a class of not very appealing bikes
It's better looking than the KTM 1290 SAS
@@simonhenry4680 actually I prefer the KTM. But to each their own.
common over bmw and triumph and honda ktm is pretty wild looking
Nah, not for me.
Liked and a comment for the algorithm though 👍