The Beautiful F-ZERO! (Just for looks?)
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- After building and riding our first "gas bike" frame, we learned a few important things!
Look forward to a full review of the F-ZERO soon. For now, here is what we think about this bike.
0:00 Intro
0:50 Pre-Built Vs Scratch Build
7:32 The Build And Overview
15:18 10 Mile Test Ride
17:25 Phantom 85 Update
19:14 First Impression of the F-ZERO
F-ZERO www.bikeberry.com/products/bb...
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FAQs:
Oil: 32:1, semi synthetic, random brands.
Gas: 87oct
Spark Plug: NGK B8HS (yd-100), NGK B6HS (pk80)
Parts: I buy mostly from Amazon.
Favorite Motor: Zeda (Firestorm) Triple 40
Favorite Carburetor: NT Speed
Favorite Bike For A Motor: I don't have one yet.
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What excited me most about this video is that I see you're wearing protective gear. It's one of my pet peeves with my younger bike friends. With my 70 year old bones it's a definite necessity, but if you're older than 16 and riding a bicycle at highway speeds, you best be wearing gear. Ride safe. Ride protected.
@@spoolinturby1640 I only try to encourage common sense, but I would never mandate it. :)
I wear leather but I don't like to wear pads... at 30mph I don't think I need much more I used to be able to push my bike about that fast without a motor as it is
Lol oh chill boomer
@@anthrovolution i see safty nuts all the time decked out in latest safety get ups pulling out in front of cars without even looking with tires squealin an horns wailin but the safety rider remembers how his mama said he was never wrong and just flips a nasty bird and carries on 🌻
At me being near 60 I agree with the safety thing. A good helmet and knee pads are a must.
Taking corners on this bike is by far my favorite thing about it when I ride
Do they ride well? Been going back and forth on wether to get one or not.
I love my hookworms.
@@nahnotforme9819 build one from scratch. Its cheaper and you will get more bang for your buck. And you Will probably get more performance. Put in the work and you'll be rewarded
Everyone in the comments just sign up for discord and join the server. It’s free with almost 700 members of really experienced builders and lots of helpers
Be careful bro check the frame for cracks my frame cracked in 3 spots that same frame i had to junk it it lools really nice though just watch the front headset tude thats where mine cracked
That's what's up. F that aluminum crap.
@@voodoo6705 elactly bro my cranbrook is over 10years old and had a motor on it whole time still kickin been welded once where it cracked and i drive full throttle
Thanks for the heads up! Will keep a good eye on it.
Can't wait to build me one
Can't wait to get my hands on that Zeda Dawn.⏳ looking forward to future videos on the new-build. Great job.
Hopefully they restock at the same price!
@LA Hover Bikes I can’t find the cnc mount that will fit the f zero where’d you find that one? Any help is appreciated
@@LAHover meant to tag you on my question
congrats i love those gas frame
That is beautiful
I have the f zero with the bbr stage 4 race kit I'm bout 280 pounds and get it up to 40mph all day love it. Good vid
Did you keep the same seat? I'm about 285 and I feel like I'd bend it the first ride, lol
My condolences for your remorse and appreciate your sacrifice .
I think I would only buy that style for building a 70mph bike .
It does look like it's for the track and not comfort .
I really enjoyed this video for the fact that yes the in frame tank has crossed my mind . It is way out of my budget #1 and #2 the gas tank looks cool on a huffy .
I very much enjoy your content .
Man, that thing looks mean! I love it.
I'm not as tall as you by a long shot. I have a 26 inch MT bike, with an ambull 100cc 2 stroke. I haven't had any trouble from the engine, just the tension pulley and getting good rims. I enjoy your videos and learn from most of them.
She’s mint👌🏿
Ive waited for this for so long
That is gorgeous bike bro!
I think your complaints come from that bike being setup for a “low ride”. You need to get rid of that banana seat, get a new stem with a higher handle bar and you will be much comfortable on it.
Yup, talked about that near the end of the video in our final thoughts. :)
Black Friday the price goes down $300 Best time to buy‼️😉
I guess i bought mine during a winter sale and got the one with the stage 4 engine kit bundled with the bike and it came with the mag wheels with cheap parts on the wheel and it rounded out the holes and a different style sissy bar but i still use it as a daily but i am cramped on it had to change alot of other parts too its still fun building on it every day
I have a bike just like the one shown. Mine is dark blue and will be on the road this weekend.
Awsome .. Your the best LA Hover
On a good wheel with good hardware i can say i never had any issues. Also blue threadlocker
I think it's just gorgeous. I am still trying to find a Phatmoto style bike setup. Jack shafts are good if done right.
Gotta get you on a grom clone man! Love that you added it at the ending
Someday, in digging the new trail 70 clones too!
@@LAHover edit:whoops turned into a ramble read if you wish
yep with it getting close to Grom clone prices but still got to take into account the 200$ in registration and fees and the 2-300$ for a motorcycle endorsement another 80$ if you don't already have a Lerner's or license, so still another 600$ to go but you have already beat the price of my taotao racer 50 with a big bore kit, bought 2 used non-running, got them both up and sold 1 for 650, and spent 300$ doing it, so 150+plate and registration (185 I think?) Even if I didn't sell I'm only at 985 for 2 bike only 1 registered, with a the sale I'm at 325, is it dirt Worthy no but goes 45 all day and is more then willing to do 20 mile trips good enough for me.
LA you’re a legend 😎. Where’s you’re wildcat? My pro comes tomorrow (without they’re CNC head add on) I’m really excited to see they’re “ported” cylinder and piston:)
Next week's video is all about the kitty ;)
I wonder if you could put some sort of shock or spring on the back of seat ?
your build so cool , i ordered a triple fork for mine
be aware of the window piston of the zt 85 , they crack often
Dope build fam! I am about to post my first bikecuh vlog today! haha.
I love my F-Zero with the 49cc 4-stoke. I immediately replaces the banana seat with sprung bobber seat. With the 4-stroke engine, it will not pedal. So I have to get the extended bottom bracket and wide cranks. It still wont be practical to pedal, but that is not what this thing is about. It pull from a dead stop just fine with one or two foot kicks or a half pedal. All in all I LOVE it!
Dude you are 6 foot 4?!!! You look short in your vids for some reason. 🤣🤘 Love your build man!!! I just finished my phantom 85 build... i am a little hesitant to run it though it has very mixed reviews about the head
The 26" wheels help make him look shorter.
If he was to ride a 20" wheeled bike 🚲 then it would small to him.
Lol
I wish I kept my f-zero. I would have definitely put that new 80cc engine on there. But when I got my f-zero, I had the same exact issue with the forks. They bend really easily. Also my other issue was the kickstand never wanted to stay in its position, and the handle bars constantly moved, even though I tightened the crap out of it. I also added a thumb throttle on mine, it made it much better
I have a Nel Lusso with an Anbull, have had a few problems, gonna make my next build correct and comfortable
Good luck on the next build :)
Great information! After many reviews and going back and forth between buying an engine kit for my current mountain bike, I think I like this style better. It's soo much cleaning looking. I see BikeBerry is selling the bike plus the engine as a complete package. They are also using the BBR tuning engine I asked about in your other video. Is this a 2 stroke or 4 stroke you got? The engine sounds much quieter than your other builds. I am certainly interested in this bike and I am hoping the engine set up BikeBerry provides with it will be of good quality. Hopefully they might have a sale around Black Friday so I can get it. lol. Looking forward to your update on the handle bars as I am also on the taller side at 6 -1. I like the stock handle bars and seat though as it gives a kind of retro look. This won't be a commuter bike, but more a bike to play around the neighborhood and have some fun with. Thanks for your in depth detail videos.
Hey LA, nice video!
that looks cool af
dude, I love this I just bought a phantom v3 I still have it in the box I agree and listen to what you've said about having it on a stout frame. Ive been running a 100cc china doll I ported it out iron sleave high compression head hp carb with an expansion chamber it has a shitload of power I'm running it on an old gary fisher frame. If the phanton is as powerful as you guys say I'm taking your advice frame-wise
Your work and time on this build look great. That riding style with the bars looks so weird on the camera, but if it works it works.
Damn , yd 100 top end upgrade for fantom 85 sounds great😊
I was going to do the same thing but change the forks to some rock shocks and Nerf bars and springer seat kx85 pipe and a vm24 carburetor with a 23mm Intake
Good thing I watched your Videos I bought a Cranbrook off Marketplace and got a 80cc motor kit from Amazon that will be here next week thanks for the info and practically
I have metal mag wheels they're beast
Great info man,,, A lil out of my price range, but looks awesome!! Keep up the awesome vids!!
Another thing I learned too is ,wire bead, over folding bead on a motorized bike. In the event of a blowout, a wire bead is more likely to stay on the rim. Folding beed more likely to fall off the rim and get tangled up in s***.
Good to know thanks!
Nice
Looks like you may have gotten lucky with the wheels. Mine were not true at all & the dish was way outta wack. Also might need a gasket for that fuel cap, mine leaked. I think they're a solid start though.
Hey man woohoo you got the faker. I put a 29 inch rockshox fork and a set of really wide atv bars from Amazon, and that wake stem you were showing. It is so much more comfortable and is a great trail bike. I am 6 foot 2 and the original suspension and bars quickly became a nightmare. Cool video thanks for all the info
I have the ghetto bikes reanforced frame and it's a tank solid steel seat post springer seat from Steve lunez and the gen2 case vm20 carburetor yasuni r2 low mount pipe moped hubs 10g steel spokes stage 6 MK2 pro vertical minarelli gen3 rdm clutch and your right it's a show piece and a once in awhile driver for throttle therapy I'm going to ms440 52mm and vm24 kx85 pipe saf clutch because the one I had on my diamond back was just as fast as this and I could Rio through the woods no problem with a 36t sprocket minarelli has no bottom end without a centerfuge clutch but from 20mph to 60mph it's just insane rocket ship but I have more fun on a good mountain bike with a powerful motor that has tons of torque and still has that 60mph top end I love your reviews bro your not boring and you don't miss a thing I appreciate that helps in deciding on how to go about a build 👍💯🚲
👏👏👏👏Similar to my bike but they have the spoke rims and the seat is different 💯
Oh this is good, I want one of these things but I've seen so many videos I'm confused.
I'd rather just buy one already made.
I already have a Harley and a Mustang and a Honda 4 wheeler to rebuild so I don't really have time to build one.
super sweet but I think some better handle bars that put you in a more comfortable riding position would change the overall ridablitly for your style
LOVE YOUR VID VERY HELPFUL VERY DISCRIPTIVE
Hey hover great video
And damn i was surprised when you said you wouldnt build that particular frame again
Thanks for being honest
Just out of curiosity do you think that taller handle bars (ape hangers ?)
Could help make the bike more comfortable
I mean i like the look of that bike but i couldnt ride it for more than a few minutes at the time all that leaning forward would just wear me out edit: fixed a a few missing words
I’m curious if you have found a solution to the wrist pin bushing issue with the phantom I think if someone can figure it out you can
I hope i can have some of that racing frames.
I'm considering building a noticed bike using a built 212 predator bc I require an auto clutch due to an injury. I've built rigid frame Harleys so I'm confident in my my it work abilities. Do you think this would be a decent predator platform with a torque converter. I love the Cafe racer arsthetic
Have you tried a Beach Bike? Is it comfortable? How does it ride? And would you recommend it for road only? Or?
Great video.. I just purchased a F-Zero from BIkeBerry and now I have a rough idea about what I am getting myself into.
Good tip if you don't like the handle bars. You can cut some Cranbrook bars in half and they will give you a nice lift on the F-Zero.
22:01 makes the bent fork more obvious, as the triple-tree isn't square to the frame, nor are the handle bars square, however its obvious that they have to be offset like that for the bike to track straight.
I think I had one of the bars slid in more than the other. Did not like them, changed them asap.
The middle post on my triple tree forks is threaded at the bottom and I’m having trouble trying to assemble the headset. Was yours threaded? Am I missing something?
I was wondering if you might know why all the sudden. The new 85 phantom moto is stumbling at half idle? Still on break in fuel. 40:1 I have tried joining the discord service and haven't been able to do that either yet. I checked the plug. It's a dark gray found the reed valve loose tightened that up drained the gas tank. Checked the filter in that. I pulled the gas line off the first time it seemed to stop stumbling for a block or so. Then started back in. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you for your videos.
What oil do you use for this engine? I can’t seem to find what’s mentioned in the instructions as “Valvoline Two Stroke Racing Oil,” is this the same as Valvoline multi purpose oil for two stroke engines? I also already have Lucus’s semi-synthetic 2-Cycle oil, is it safe to use?
Be sure to lock tight the bolts in your rear hub.. if they get loose they can destroy your rim and frame
Very Nice bike bro but your right not very comfortable to ride it’s the reason i changed my front end after doing that it’s a lot better to ride and even on longer trips are nicer now great video
Did you have any trouble getting the handle bar clamps onto the fork?
I totally agree with the rim brakes, the bikes that I've seen that have rear disc brakes that work well seem to have enormous discs on them, so they have no problem with clearance.
So i just found something if you didnt know bike berry also sells their products on amazon and i just looked and the motor ready is 100 dollars cheaper on amazon 🤔
is that the stock pully on the upgraded pully idler ?
i have about 50 wheelie hours on the donsp1986 hub you have to build a wheel but its pretty nice and has bolts with nuts ,not a threaded hub ,one striped out so i threw a skateboard bolt in and its better than stock fit , they have disk break size holes on each side so im running my engine sprocket on the threaded freewheel side for god-like chain clearance of bike frame and tire and am trying to get a disk break set up on the right side (i use a 56tooth sprocket balance point wheelies all day)
i put a made in usa axle in the hub fyi
I've had no issues with mags, but I am a strictly city Rider(and live is flat as a pancake Florida), what I did have a issue with is corrosion from tire slime but I blame myself for that
My bike engine is leaking gas out of pretty much everywhere.. any idea what to check for first? It ruined the coil and it stopped working a day or 2 after I put a 36t sprocket on. Could my engine not take the extra speed? Its a 66cc
There’s got to be a better option than those Chinese aluminum frames. Made in America type. I bought 3 Zeda dawns luckily, only caveat the spokes are 14g . I’ve been able to fit up to a 212 vertical on the Zeda Dawn. I’m lucky to have gotten the 3 Zeda Dawn frames , they are real nice . Built your own is my take now, made in America is my choice. Disk brakes are only good dry, coasters . Build your own - you would get quality parts for almost the same price. In the long run it will save you money. I used to same wake stem collar. Build your own - find American sources to enrich. Good video my man. Crank set you forgot to mention it has to be extended. Build your own - much better quality.
How is the phantom 85 running are you aware of the new issues ring problems and wrist pin it's a spacer
Well not for me. Sticking with my old steel frame. Thanks for the review and the ride.
I understand completely different beast but what's your opinion of fatties with mags, given the 3 inch wide tires I would assume stress is gonna be considerably less on the rims with such a setup
You can get different size adapter plates from manic mechanic he makes some different thick heights for the t-bone I have a 1/4 T-Bone for my motor
Hey LA I just purchased an F-Zero frame. I think I should have watched this vid first. I'm 6ft 200lbs and I like to go fast. Is this a decent sturdy frame or am I just dreamin up in Canada here???
No issues with the 85? Been hearing there are bearing issues. Just got my kit in yesterday, now they pulled these kits. Going to open it up and inspect. Anything you found that I should look for. Thanks I’m advance. Looks great!
Other than just tuning it, no issues.
The bearing inside will last a little while but its not the right material. Use bronze bushing 12x14x15.
How do I switch the banana seat into a regular spring seat ? .hv this exact frame not sure what size down stem is needed for the switch. Any help will be appreciated !
I just used the seat post that came with the bike. perfect fit for a standard bike seat.
Do you think making the F-Zero more like a cross between a mountain bike and a dirt bike might make this more enjoyable to ride? Change out the triple tree for more standard front forks and handle bars, and upgrade to a 29in front wheel instead of the 26in. Asking because: A. Haven't really seen anyone do it. B. I'm 6' and have the small bike problem, was wondering if changing the front of the bike in this way would change the geometry of the bike enough to make it seem larger for taller riders.
Oh ya. And we might.
@@LAHover Cool. :)
Replace forks and stem bars and normal set upgrade?? Smaller sprocket
So, a Schwinn OCC with snow tires, OKO carb, 20T Sprocket, YD100 & Flex exhaust giving me 82 MPH... (edit: NOT ported) Thoughts? Just on longevity of that build? I have a beach cruiser which is built way more for RPM than top speed, just wondered what you thought of my "Schwinn load out" if you will
Did you ever find any information about what they were talking about the wrist pin bushing???
I'm just going to run the stock one. I don't trust everything I hear about it... Besides, it's under review and the review must be fair.
@@LAHover oh ok. See you haven't had any problems yet have you and when are you going to put your next video out
Hey bro just heard a couple times now the Phantom 85 is being recalled for the faulty wrist pin bearing? Think it was , I'm sure you already heard or can look into that, they are halting the sale of them or starting to?
Yeah I have heard that to. Hope they get it sorted out soon!
To their credit, they acted on the issues fast instead of just keeping it on the market.
@@LAHover absolutely 👍
Great video, im kinda new to gas bikes, was gonna get the f-zero till I watched this, im 6'8", think I'm gonna go with the Macargi Mustang strech and a BT80 electric start, thoughts?
Sweet looking laid back bike. Motor mounting might be tricky because where the seat tube meets the down tube I'm not sure how people make that work. Might need to make your own bracket for mounting, I'm not sure.
@@LAHover bikeberry has a chopper mount kit, can't find video of it
Apparently this dude is 6'4" same height as me. I usually forget that I'm tall and just look down on everyone, that is until I'm in the same room with someone a few inches taller. That isn't often and my condolences on bike build options. To quote the bike courrier I bought my FSR mtb off of, "they really don't make any bicycles for someone your height". And yet here we are.
Would you be willing to try out the Zeda Screaming Demon or no because the mags and the mount? Cost is much less at $469 and I'm very curious about quality...
I just bought one a few days ago when I saw there overstock price :) but I don't think they will be that cheap for long.
@@LAHover Great, can't wait for your video on it. Your videos are very informative and thorough. Keep it up!
I also wish they'd get the other one in stock again...
The Zeda dawn forks are a cheap fork, the triple tree forks you got are three times better and stronger.
Full disc you will appreciate when riding in wet conditions they actually stop you
Plus the 208 mm disc is better for the rear, and if your building it yourself go for floating discs instead of stuff flex
Cable disc brakes are easy to get used to,, start with them light and tighten as needed,rear calipers are installed with spacers between the mount and caliper, you may need to remove and adjust them to get proper pad set
Now as to the frame, being aluminium if they did not stress relieved the welds then it will crack a 1/4" away from the welds,, keep a good eye on the frame
I am one of those that warn people off these frames due to the fact they are " pretty" but not really built for longevity, have had two crack now , one at the motor post mount, the other on the down tube at the crank, both cracked around the welds.
So far the only issue I see on the Phat85 is the crappy brass bushing for a wrist pin and not a caged needle bearing
Oh yeah, those Phantom engines apparently don't have a Wristpin Bearing for the Top End, just a Bushing...
Which should be fine, just not the stock one. Replace it with bronze bushing 12x14x15
Golly all the anxiety I would of had building one of these
Can anyone tell
Me if its a good ideia to replace the bushing with a wrist pin piston bearing?
I'm 6 ft 2- 250 lb what bike do you recommend?
That banana seat looks like a nut cruncher. Is it comfy? Thanks for the review!
It’s not
Lol if you sit down to fast... Yup
Hello,onde compro desse motor?condratulations.
I've been using 'AlexRims' on my bikes and so far they've been pretty good...
Hey I just wanted to ask somehow I found out I don't know if it's true or not but I heard there is a recall on the phantom 85. Can you please try to confirm that please before I crank it up and ruin it
Would you suggest getting this bike for a beginner? I have about enough knowledge to be able to put it together and keep up with it. Also, would this bike be ok for a bigger guy? I'm 6'2 and about 285.
The frame, wheel set, and forks are solid. I replaced the seat, handle bars, and chain ring because I did not like what it came with... I think it's a decent bike for a motor, but not for a first time builder.
I recommend a cruiser style frame with rim brakes like a kent bayside, huffy lockland, and schwinn cruiser. They are easy and comfortable...
@@LAHover it was an impulse buy more than anything, lol. Thanks for the info!
One would think companies like Honda or Yamaha would get in on this action because there is a real need today.
Have you heard abount the little bearings going on them?
You talking about the conrod bushing? Ya been hearing allot about them.
@@LAHover yeah I was think abount getting a phantom but they don’t do them in the uk yet
in terms of tires youre better off buying e bike tires since theyre rated for a higher continuous speed as well as having a thicker casing and puncture resistant layer. many a brand sells these, for instance schwalbe has a wide range of them.
Can you please do a review on the samger engines
I had already ordered some I got the copper ones I'm assuming those are the ones I need the self lubricating copper 12x14x15 I ordered them at AliExpress less than 10 bucks
A que no Brasil é bem complicado encontrar peças boas, a maioria é ruim e com defeito nos acabamentos por que os vendedores só visa o lucro e não a qualidade, meu quado já esta com a soldas danificadas por que os quadros das bicicletas não aguenta a vibração do motor ainda mais se afinar bem o carburador, em fim bom vídeo vou tentar encontrar um quadro desses por a que.
Doesnt that gas cap cause the fuel to jam?? Doesnt the tank need some air flow?
14:53
@@LAHover ah my bad, I didnt see that. Thank you
We're do I find those wheels