How Gold And Experience From Creeps Changes Over Time

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  • @TheChaotiCake
    @TheChaotiCake Рік тому +106

    Been playing dota for 10 years and I didn't know some of this lol, such as stacked camps giving 15% less gold and xp. Thanks for the info!

    • @TheDominionOfElites
      @TheDominionOfElites Рік тому +17

      The stack changes were made in the last year or two

    • @TheChaotiCake
      @TheChaotiCake Рік тому +3

      @@TheDominionOfElites ahh I see. Thank you as well for the info 😁

    • @bounceday
      @bounceday Рік тому +1

      @@TheDominionOfElites they only know how to nerf skill based play :(

    • @raulmontero8736
      @raulmontero8736 7 місяців тому

      They added xp % bonus for the stacker camps hero, even if isn't in the xp area when the stacks are killed. Also added in recent patches

  • @FahmiZFX
    @FahmiZFX Рік тому +119

    Duuuuuude, the production quality on this is insane. You can easily tell how much effort you put into this video from how it's presented.

  • @ITZBROKENhotDOG12
    @ITZBROKENhotDOG12 7 місяців тому +1

    Wow... this blows my mind how in-depth this MOBA is.. just jaw dropping cant wait to put hundreds of hours learning so much every thousand hours

  • @SK3564
    @SK3564 Рік тому +11

    The lost xp when it's leached by several heroes is super interesting! I really like learning about these things in dota, I really appreciate you sharing all this info!

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому +1

      Thanks!! Glad you like learning about this stuff like I do :D

  • @cptmacmillan1111
    @cptmacmillan1111 Рік тому +17

    I binged every single one of your "How this hero's ability actually works" and learned a whole lot. Subbed right after.
    Here are some ideas I thought of that when you present and demonstrate, my

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому +2

      That's very valuable feedback, thanks a bunch and thanks for the support!

  • @Gromppi
    @Gromppi 4 місяці тому

    as a new player this helps me a lot to understand these mechanics thank you so much!

  • @ferryxhidayat
    @ferryxhidayat Рік тому +1

    My guy has a major degree in Dota, thanks for the video

  • @carrotcarrotful
    @carrotcarrotful Рік тому +10

    What if you did an episode on spell casting animations. Windup vs endlag, how the stop command works, spells like tinker's laser which seem to hit before the animation, other instances of visuals not aligning with timings.

    • @BanielDrown
      @BanielDrown Рік тому

      Razor's regular attack too - that one wigs me out. it hits ... after the electricity jolt hits?

    • @nanook6620
      @nanook6620 Рік тому

      ​@@BanielDrown yea there's like a split second before damage takes affect. Some of the hardest last hitting ive ever had to learn.

  • @mdk064hernandez9
    @mdk064hernandez9 Рік тому +2

    I had already been looking into this recently 😂 ty so much for clearing these things up

  • @raulmontero8736
    @raulmontero8736 7 місяців тому

    Just need to add the super and mega creeps xp/gold/stats values through the game. Since all this content is so valuable and normally isn't breaked through properly. Great job though

  • @An_Appi
    @An_Appi Рік тому +1

    This will blow up mark my words

  • @Галина-п8й2ж
    @Галина-п8й2ж 4 місяці тому

    That's the type of dota content I was looking for

  • @kawaiiyasuo63
    @kawaiiyasuo63 Рік тому +4

    Nice production dude !!! I wanna know if you can share some insights on how "critical" works in the game in general and if there are hidden mechanics there is ? Keep it up, man !

    • @fappiedappy2902
      @fappiedappy2902 Рік тому

      it's just pseudo random mechanic that you can google. It's probably not enough for a whole video.

    • @pauloovl
      @pauloovl Рік тому

      @@fappiedappy2902 on zzADRiANzz's video about drow's marksmanship there is a section about pesudo random distribution already,actually.

    • @ladderlappen4585
      @ladderlappen4585 Рік тому

      @@pauloovl prng is espcially usefull to know, when you jungle with pa in the early levels

  • @Skulltroxx
    @Skulltroxx Рік тому +2

    Again, another great video.

  • @minoriteinvisible
    @minoriteinvisible Рік тому

    You know my Italian grandfather always made good lasagna and knows a lot about pasta if the pasta is good he will say "Bellissimo". But me personally I don't know nothing about pasta but I know about Dota and video editing and let me tell you what I just saw is BELLISSIMO!

  • @hanavirtue
    @hanavirtue Рік тому +1

    hoooly, the production keep getting better

  • @harun507
    @harun507 Рік тому +2

    This is really educational. Thank you

  • @LLegaa
    @LLegaa Рік тому +3

    Try adding some background music, perhaps from Dota (there're more than standard theme). I think it will improve the quality, because it felt a bit weir during math part. Other than that the content is good!

  • @juliangorski5760
    @juliangorski5760 Рік тому

    Love you my man. Wanna do Dispersion next?

  • @freddyvartanians3836
    @freddyvartanians3836 11 місяців тому +1

    Amazing content dude

  • @arielbazanantezana9120
    @arielbazanantezana9120 Рік тому +1

    Nice video man👍🏻

  • @maruangh9
    @maruangh9 Рік тому +4

    Nice , very informative, can you do huskar next , i have no ideia why sometimes he heal so much

  • @Santi-vx5lt
    @Santi-vx5lt Рік тому +3

    Thaanks! Can you explain how base attack time works? (E.g. last change on abaddon)

  • @congtrinh3717
    @congtrinh3717 Рік тому +1

    Thank you sir!

  • @mariadamian4534
    @mariadamian4534 Рік тому +2

    Great channel! can you do ember spirit video about his spells? i have hard times to use slight and q on heroes

  • @Youmu_Konpaku_
    @Youmu_Konpaku_ Рік тому +2

    Very nice and insightful hidden mechanics

  • @bjornbos332
    @bjornbos332 Рік тому +1

    i actually laid this out on a map in paint a few months ago

  • @halomilo4013
    @halomilo4013 Рік тому

    Very thorough video, auto sub!!

  • @alm5851
    @alm5851 Рік тому

    This is amazing info man! Appreciate it

  • @abbybasher7247
    @abbybasher7247 Рік тому

    As we are in meme patch, let's talk about meme hammer and if everybody buy it. Stacking of meme hammer? Tower pushing?

  • @mertaltan5388
    @mertaltan5388 Рік тому +1

    Perfect video, thank you.

  • @purushottamroy7379
    @purushottamroy7379 Рік тому

    Now this is a video worth saving.

  • @Chokop1e__
    @Chokop1e__ Рік тому +2

    Golden dota content. Thanks man.

  • @user-nb5nj6xs6y
    @user-nb5nj6xs6y Рік тому +3

    What happens with the xp if lane creeps are fighting neutral creeps? Can you soke up the xp from both creeps if they are enemy lane creeps?

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому

      Yes exactly. You'd get xp from every neutral creep and lane creep that dies.

  • @dmitriishatokhin
    @dmitriishatokhin Рік тому

    I remember short period of time when denied creep gave 0 exp to enemy and 1 my offlane game went pretty sick: I was 7 lvl and enemy still first. Everything was denied xD

  • @rollermixmax
    @rollermixmax Рік тому +1

    Keep it up! nice work man

  • @Wellkerdes
    @Wellkerdes Рік тому +6

    Welp time to just send this video's link in team chat so my safelane doesn't play farmville in the jungle for the next 30 minutes. 🧑‍🌾🧑‍🌾
    Jokes aside, well made video btw. Keep it up!

  • @impactaci
    @impactaci Рік тому

    this is why carry players should always consider farming creep wave first if it is safe.

  • @yonmalikulkudus8526
    @yonmalikulkudus8526 Рік тому +1

    thanks a lot man

  • @Schuhardt
    @Schuhardt Рік тому +2

    I’m kinda confused on the camp stacking part. You said that the stacker gets 30% of the gold which isn’t subtracted from the killer. Then you said that the killer gets 15% less gold and xp.
    Soo the killer receives 85% of the normal bounty and the stacker receives 30% of that, which isn’t subtracted. Soo 15% extra gold is being made?

    • @yehorveremii
      @yehorveremii 6 місяців тому

      100-15%=85 (decreased bounty for the killer)
      85×.3=25.5 (the amount of gold the stacker receives)
      Right?
      100-85=15 (wasted gold forever for the killer)
      25.5-15=10.5 (difference between the amount of gold the stacker receives and that wasted gold is extra gold)
      Conclusion: 10.5% extra gold as well as exp for the stacker.
      In other words, stacks give your team 10.5% networth boost if they will be cleared by non-stacker ally.

  • @leonardobargilbargi176
    @leonardobargilbargi176 Рік тому +1

    Best dota channel nowadays!

  • @tlustejmicin
    @tlustejmicin Рік тому +3

    Awesome vid. As usual ❤

  • @drrrw
    @drrrw Рік тому

    Do the attack modifiers and combination items for item builds.

  • @sedimiri.7195
    @sedimiri.7195 Рік тому

    maybe Abbadon's ult with septer. how the mist coil works

  • @abdulellahaAls
    @abdulellahaAls Рік тому +1

    So in the end, its better to kill jungle before the minute come than making a stack ?

  • @jotapegs8285
    @jotapegs8285 Рік тому +1

    @zzADRiANzz i dont know if i missed it but what happens with the exp when a Neutral Creep LH a creep?
    10/10 content dude!

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому

      The xp will still be given the same as normal. And thank you!

  • @redisrar12
    @redisrar12 Рік тому

    ty for info...stay love

  • @LootFreak
    @LootFreak Рік тому

    Love these vids!

  • @محمدعلیموسوی-ف5ص
    @محمدعلیموسوی-ف5ص Місяць тому

    best vidion i ever see in dota
    ty

  • @banglevision8207
    @banglevision8207 Рік тому +1

    ANOTHA ONE!

  • @therealmurakaze
    @therealmurakaze 4 місяці тому

    Didn't check other comments, but the double satyr is missing. It was in the spawn at that time as well, or is it not considered a large camp? Confused -_-

  • @seanduncan9722
    @seanduncan9722 Рік тому +1

    I wish i could subscribe twice

  • @claytonagol
    @claytonagol 11 місяців тому

    Please update that is amazing theory.

  • @Shlerpple
    @Shlerpple Рік тому

    Love ur vids.. very insightful

  • @VictorHugo-xo9uz
    @VictorHugo-xo9uz Рік тому +1

    better than going to school

  • @krnzzang84
    @krnzzang84 Рік тому

    Best dota education ❤❤❤❤

  • @leviejoshuasala8841
    @leviejoshuasala8841 Рік тому

    Thanks! what a great vid.

  • @doom1153
    @doom1153 Рік тому +1

    Just to ask about stacking camps, how do multiple stacks work? Who gets what stack gold, and is the 15% reduction applied again?
    Great video btw :)

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому +1

      The 30% gold bounty and 15% reduction are applied the same even if there are multiple stacks. The 15% reduction is not applied again.
      Both are applied to the specific creeps that spawned from being stacked, as seen by the stacking buff they have.

  • @idkwatlol4456
    @idkwatlol4456 Рік тому

    Valve needs to hire this guy.

    • @yehorveremii
      @yehorveremii 6 місяців тому

      for what reason lol? they hide all that stuff on purpose to make game playable as long as possible, it's an anti-employee for Valve, at least, with that type of content.

  • @dajair01
    @dajair01 Рік тому

    How did this change with the latest changes?

  • @JohnPaulBuce
    @JohnPaulBuce Рік тому

    thanks

  • @Daniel-zr4pk
    @Daniel-zr4pk Рік тому

    7:45 I did not understand what you mean? who is doing the wrong thing? the mid or the afk support?

    • @yehorveremii
      @yehorveremii 6 місяців тому

      it's a joke, the afk support ofc :DDDD
      that .5 exp doesn't count when splits between allies, so midlaner as solo hero wouldn't receive that extra .5 exp to dominate enemy mid, to get the level up before the enemy midlaner if their support soak up the exp. Basically, you can split the exp between allies effectively only if it's divided by the number of allies which is randomised by that range in every bounty creeps contain. Everything after the dot in the result is being deleted from the game and compensated by the outposts exp.

  • @iverson1194
    @iverson1194 Рік тому

    Another thoughtful videooo keep it up

  • @dyggas
    @dyggas Рік тому +1

    Aaaaaand, now you throw it all away :)

  • @bigbigestwiner92
    @bigbigestwiner92 Рік тому

    Make a video analyzing drow ult’s effectviness when stacked with armor corruption

    • @pauloovl
      @pauloovl Рік тому

      there is a video abut drow's ult already. even though he doesn't mention corruption, zzADRiANzz briefly explains marksmanship is affected by bonus armor only when it procs,so still affected by corruption.
      armor ,in general, could be a possible content for future videos

    • @bigbigestwiner92
      @bigbigestwiner92 Рік тому

      @@pauloovl i know! I was just trying to theory craft how valuable armor debuffs are in a drow line up (even potentially for herself) since it does change a ton of calcs when compared to regular armor debuff comps

    • @pauloovl
      @pauloovl Рік тому

      @@bigbigestwiner92 oh, a video about how armor actually works would be nice

  • @TheHippyhopp
    @TheHippyhopp Рік тому +1

    is there any explanation to how ember spirits W work? Or is it totally random?

  • @aaronninolanante7069
    @aaronninolanante7069 Рік тому +1

    Yet another high quality content from you sir 🤘 and it's my 5th time ( I guess ) on making a vid about holy locket 🥲

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому

      Thanks a bunch!
      Anything specific about Holy Locket that you'd want covered? 👀

  • @sebastianramos4907
    @sebastianramos4907 Рік тому +1

    Moooore videos pleaseee

  • @WoobertAIO
    @WoobertAIO Рік тому

    The progression of Super Creeps means that if a game goes long enough, Super Creeps would **eventually** be more tanky and dangerous than their Mega counterparts.
    Edit: I actually did the math, and it seems like their max stats are equal to the Mega Creeps' base stats lmao
    I stand corrected.

  • @icecrown7324
    @icecrown7324 Рік тому +2

    Make one on how winrate works and how to break 51% winrate

  • @NoNTr1v1aL
    @NoNTr1v1aL Рік тому +2

    I love your videos bro 👍

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому

      Thank you! Glad you enjoy them :)

  • @Pozorchelovechestva
    @Pozorchelovechestva Рік тому

    Id like to know how weaver aganim shard works

  • @hadisparrow8722
    @hadisparrow8722 Рік тому

    super!

  • @KaxtaOfficial
    @KaxtaOfficial Рік тому

    Can you do bane nightmare next?

  • @tradenchill9123
    @tradenchill9123 Рік тому

    6:40 ”Neutral creep kills share all exp around 1500 range despite which team got the kill” what this cant be right? An enemy is near my jungle when i kill jungle stacks, theyll get 50% of exp?

  • @chalempoy1905
    @chalempoy1905 Рік тому

    can you do a video about chainfrost

  • @spiralingspiral72
    @spiralingspiral72 Рік тому +6

    You should explain next the phenomenon where an ability can one-shot ranged creeps early on in the game, but somehow later in the game, it won't one-shot them, and hey're left with like 1 or 2 HP.
    Really annoying stuff.

    • @pudipudi3227
      @pudipudi3227 Рік тому +11

      Didn’t he kind of do that he said the creeps health and atk scale up throughout the game

    • @h00db01i
      @h00db01i Рік тому

      gotta have kaya now

  • @carlofaustino9373
    @carlofaustino9373 Рік тому

    Could u do an explanation on dazzle's heal??

  • @ZurinArctus0
    @ZurinArctus0 Рік тому +1

    Your video is getting better and I love it but please don't use one vocabulary subtitle like in minute 2:47, it's just annoying

  • @banglevision8207
    @banglevision8207 Рік тому

    Morphing attributes

  • @noahjohann4909
    @noahjohann4909 Рік тому

    Do i miss some fact or did you forget about mud golems and the other satyr camp? the one with only small satyrs

    • @MrJanaQi
      @MrJanaQi Рік тому +1

      those are not big neutral camps, they are lower rank so they give
      less xp and gold

  • @chongzm1
    @chongzm1 Рік тому

    Meepo enters the chat 😂

  • @ggame3987
    @ggame3987 Рік тому +1

    Let zzADRiANzz cook. LET HIM COOK!!!

  • @uthm429
    @uthm429 Рік тому

    Does dazzle heal works like warlock link?

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому

      Briefly explained - it apparently prioritizes hurt allied heroes the highest, which I didn't know. And if there are multiple heroes meeting the same criteria, it'll choose who it heals randomly.

  • @zhengshen1637
    @zhengshen1637 Рік тому

    Hi, please make a video explaining how Undying's Soul Rip works? I like your video so much, crystal clear explaination

  • @chalempoy1905
    @chalempoy1905 Рік тому

    your contents are too gud

  • @pitou6874
    @pitou6874 Рік тому

    U forgot the golem neutral creep TnT

  • @StressedProgrammer
    @StressedProgrammer Рік тому

    How does Wukong Command works?

  • @abhishekpawar5126
    @abhishekpawar5126 Рік тому

    You didn't cover mega creeps

  • @zod3632
    @zod3632 Рік тому

    wait outposts give exp every min now? Since when was that LoL

  • @deedoo624
    @deedoo624 Рік тому +1

    the creeps are cute

  • @skersovas
    @skersovas Рік тому

    Is it just me or at every 10min mark outpost gives bonus gold and xp??? Dont tell me i was blindly trying 2 protect outpost at 10 min marks without any bonus gain :///

    • @somethingsomething2541
      @somethingsomething2541 Рік тому

      No they dont.. its only 1 min and they give tiny amount of bonus xp.

    • @somethingsomething2541
      @somethingsomething2541 Рік тому

      In past they used to give alot of xp every 5 mins i think

    • @somethingsomething2541
      @somethingsomething2541 Рік тому +1

      Getting 2 outposts will not give u more xp or gold as it will only deny the opponents from getting xp every minute.. outpost major use is only for teleportation purposes

  • @xtianebernal
    @xtianebernal Рік тому +2

    Stacking has been one of my favorite mechanics in the game. Not to brag but I think I have 130k camps stacked on my profile. I always do double or triple stacks and if my core is a little bit too slow to farm it, i farm it myself. There are games i played as 5 kotl with an orchid at 14 mins lol

    • @somethingsomething2541
      @somethingsomething2541 Рік тому

      Damm thats nicee

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому

      That's awesome. Yeah it's very fun to get a lot of camps stacked with something like KOTL, as long as the enemy doesn't take them. That's always so sad, especially when your team doesn't respond.

  • @jft3730
    @jft3730 Рік тому

    No mud golem 🫠🥲

  • @ziloj-perezivat
    @ziloj-perezivat Рік тому

    Way too legit

  • @garnetst.721
    @garnetst.721 Рік тому

    creeps.

  • @5vart5ol
    @5vart5ol Рік тому +1

    First! Me mid!

  • @iada1036
    @iada1036 Рік тому

    are you dota 2 entrepreneur?

  • @kf_isher1149
    @kf_isher1149 Рік тому +1

    asdf

  • @SpaceTimeBeing_
    @SpaceTimeBeing_ Рік тому +1

    Great video but why do you sound so bored

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому

      That's just how I sound I guess lol. Very mellow person in general so maybe that's why.