Mercedes EQS MBUX Hyperscreen Overview
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Scott walks you through all the things he finds interesting with the Mercedes EQS MBUX Hyperscreen! (standard for EQS 580 4MATIC)
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Great walkthrough by Scott - no need for a co-pilot in this one, Scott seems to know what to show and tell. Well presented and well prepared.
Mercedes seems to go in the totally opposite direction to Tesla with all the buttons and bling bling OMG!
It's good to have wide ranging options tho this is for a small minority with the coin, and I suspect--older folks rig like Caddy has been for decades.
I like SOME physical buttons, steer column stalks and a full steering *wheel* , lol. Lack of buttons is mitigated with a user specified control bar at bottom...one step for personal priorities.
Too much bling & stuff! Too gaudy fir my taste! Will age poorly in my opinion
@@edornelas8275 Something about the steering wheel, vents and more reminds me of the tasteless 1970's American sleds. Some BYD models look far more appealing from the pictures.
Way to much... Feels like a china christmas tree...
That system reminds me of the saying-- "If you cant dazzle them with brilliance, Baffle them with bullshit"
exactly
That’s funny!
My thoughts too.
I love watching traditional car journalists react to this infotainment screen. They are so blown away by how ridiculous it is that they have to praise it, even though they can't figure out how to use it...
Perfect cliché
Said OLED increased efficiency might be just nulled out by the 30+ LED pipes all around. On the other hand, I would have concerns for OLED longevity in a car. 14:00
Don't worry, the warranty lasts 8 years, the LEDs last 8 years and a day.
@@davidbeppler3032 🤣I wasn't worried about the LED, more about the OLED screens.
But I found the solution: not buy the EQS
@@seb. That center OLED will definitely be experiencing burn-in on the bottom half of the screen with the climate controls, not that it matters when you only want the climate controls there anyways.
The LED reflections will make the infotainment experience even more overwhelming and distracting, all to give you more reminders of how stressful and tiring it is to be rich lol
@@davidbeppler3032 Software controlled obsolescence is becoming more common...
Scott handling it like a walk in the park, great insight as usual form Munro team 😎👏
Scott did an amazing job!
Scott - Excellent, comprehensive introduction to the EQS Hyperscreen. Thank you!
Very welcome!
30:52 - "GPS position saved. Camera will be switched on here automatically in the future". This is not for recording. It is a preferred camera view tied to location to assist with parking/maneuvering to focus on a curb, car wash rails, or garage walls.
More Scott, please. I'd love to see an infotainment (and general interior) deep dive like this for every car you get in.
That’s not a light pipe and single driver, that’s addressable RGB with diffuser. You couldn’t do that scrolling swiping light motion with a traditional light pipe that only has a single LED at the end. You can only do that kind of segmented motion with an LED strip with multiple addressable RGB LEDs on it.
Correct
Awesome. Maybe you can do an overview on your own UA-cam channel.
Have to say. The UI design reminds me so much of late 2000's Windows media player
Absolutely, horrible to look at for me
Not only the looks but the general sluggishness as well. Probably that's why he hasn't shown any of the streaming services.
It makes a nice change from acres of white and no colour or contrast, which is the fashion for user interfaces at the moment. Ideally, they'd make it themeable, but that's probably asking too much.
I'm thinking that Mercedes was inspired by the movie "Killer Klowns from Outer Space". Incredibly ugly cockpit.
Fwiw, i don't think this is just a Mercedes issue. The big car brands are now all building EVs centred around touchscreen interfaces. But maybe half of them seem to have dated UI design for some reason or another. Some are clunky to navigate. Some are poor on the accessibility front. Some, like this, just have an asthetic that's 15 years out of date. I'm not sure if it's coming top down with exec's demanding the interface looks just like their physical buttons that no longer exist, or bottom up from UI designers that seem to have missed out on years of stylistic and functional progress. Or old dogs trying to learn new tricks transitioning from physical control cluster design to software interfaces. But it's weird and out of place on such an expensive vehicle.
Deepth of talent at Munro is off the charts.
Scott has great presentation.
The grab handle might not be of use to some, but for me it's a deal breaker. If you have a bad hip, that handle becomes a must-have.
I like them for the passenger side of my sports car, they'll NEED it for the ride. 😅
I'm disabled and grab handles are extremely important to me!
We sacrificed everything for maximum aero efficiency to conserve range. We also installed and wired in 34 LED pipes for the same reason. Obviously.
Imagine if they were actual lightbulbs 😅
Yeah good point and also large good looking wheels which costs you 10% range because the smaller wheels are....ugly
One more thing about the paddles; if you hold any paddle for a few seconds it enters Auto regen in which the car decides the best regen mode according to traffic conditions using the radar. Its uses more regen in heavy traffic and none in highway conditions. There are more tricks to the pony!
One of the best videos here on the channel - many thanks to Scott!
I personally find it far more enjoyable when only one person explains things. Double moderation is sometimes a bit distracting.
Many thanks to Mr Munro - it's admirable that high quality and informative content is made available for free. There are many videos here on youtube, but they mostly just scratch the surface and lack technical depth. This is where this channel stands out in a pleasingly positive way!
I noticed the recent Chinese EV Munro acquisition in the background ... I’d be more interested seeing detailed vids about the engineering and quality of that vehicle rather than a vehicle that realistically is out of many people’s budget.
We will have more videos on the Imperium SEV in the future.
Scott did a great job, also shout out to the camera man!
Thanks Eric, both Scott and Eric did a great job on this video. 😉
I just got a used one for 50k with low miles ! ! Ridiculous depreciation on this car. It's a really amazing car. Super smooth and quiet ride, tons of cool tech.
Very good coverage, thank you.
The reason Tesla didn't go with an OLED screen is because of, even OLEDs have improved a lot on this, burn in. Static images tend to become permanently "burned in" to OLED screens, leaving a shadow of the static image on the screen even when something else is being displayed.
Return of the Aquarium or flying toaster screen saver. 😜
@@abraxastulammo9940 lol 😄 Except you can't have a screen saver on when driving
@@teslasnek I think Mercedes has a micro tilt function where the elements shift slightly over time to circumvent burn in and you can also shut off the screen to save some power.
@@abraxastulammo9940 than Mercedes has better technology than the best TV manufacturers (I seriously doubt that) because as a PC gamer who would love to use an OLED as my monitor, all the research I've done says that, even though they have made huge improvements, burn-in is still a risk... a risk I am not willing to drop thousands of dollars on, or over $100,000 as in the case of this car. Also, OLEDs get dimmer over time. Not something I want in my $100,000+ car until those issues are sorted. I currently use an LG 43 inch 4K IPS monitor for gaming btw, and I love it!
Umm, no. The issue of OLED burn in is theoretical. All modern OLED screens use randomizers making burnout a non issue. Virtually all phones now use OLEd without issues. Tesla hasnt used OLEDS because LED is cheaper, not better in any way.
On the grab handles, I use them a lot, but only in SUVs. And I know my mother and mother in law utilize them in Sedans (in their 70's & 80's.) So while they may not be useful to you, there is a large percentage of the market of Mercedes buyers who are older and would make use of the grab bars.
Without a grab handle, my wife has real problems. Exit Tesla and now this car.
@@arizonajon5070 I hear you, I don't much miss them *personally* but it's no brainer NO DELETE. :D
My old BMWs have sprung folding handles, non protruding but useful if u know it's there...for sporty driving or ingress/egress.
I wonder if the absence of grab handles has something to do with the frameless window design? And, yes I agree, older folk with limited mobility do use them.
Hey, but they're saving a wopping $40 on a $130k car. 😒
I'm glad my sub-$20k Kia came with them.
I am in the insurance business. As Scott is going through this all I could think about is the cost to repair in a collision!
We will see for sure - if they break frequently which is not very likely, but in accidents who knows
Is everyone at Munro able to present? I know it helps when you know your subject thoroughly but... it's still impressive. 👍
Munro’s Law: Don’t own a German car out of warranty
Just ask my neighbor...
Don't own a diesel pickup out of warranty!
@@gmv0553 True, another neighbor has a diesel Ford F-250. Nothing but super expensive trouble.
Funny how the NEW "Light Pipes" they use were the same thing GM used in 1968 to 72 Corvettes for interior illumination but then it was called "Fiber Optics", amazing how old things become New again just by changing a few letters!
Dont press the door handle button, that closes the door. Simply swipe your hand across the handle (lengthwise).
Now, do like I did, take it outside on a normal sunny day and see how you like the screen, you can't see it because you are blinded from the sun coming through either the windshield but especially the sun roof to your rear, screen should be flat not glossy.....
Thank you!
Why do you need a button to start the car?
premium feel 🙃
Probably some German law - they have one for everything
Its optional, not a need to start drinving.
Agree, DELETE.
@@laloajuria4678 - EQS feel like POOP 💩🐂.
Nice detailed overview.... well done! Unfortunately, my dealership had their EQS locked when I was in for a quick service... and no one on the floor!
So well organized. So well spoken.
Fantastic. Thanks
Our pleasure!
Excellent analysis!
Really Good Camera work and Speaker - Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Splendid review.
Thanks for watching!
Review? You mean advertisement
This Interieur is great. The ambient lighting seems to be indirect light in the whole car. That makes it very comfy and relaxing.
The screen is nutz. Looks like straight from the future. Fits so well into the car. Great job Mercedes!
Massage modes of the seats will vary according to the interior trim, regular vs AMG version since they use completely different seats. If there is a thigh massage on the particular trim it will be part of the "wave" massage program. Don't forget to scroll down on the massage page since they don't all fit on the screen :) Ill be sad to discover if it doesn't since the "butt" massage is the favorite one on my other Benzes.
Great work Scott!
Those air vents looked lifted from a 20 yr old Spyker….or perhaps a 15 yr old Mercedes’ powered Pagani🙄
LED mood lighting is the new Piano Black😎
I never thought i’d see Scooter referenced on a Munro video haha great review!
Glad you liked it!
Are "light pipes" the same as fiber optics?
And, just to let you know, both myself and my wife are always using our "grab handles", (aka "Oh, Sh_t" handles), to get out of our car, as we both are handicapped, having to use canes or walkers.
What no grab handles? I never used them for grabbing but they are convenient to insert a hanger loop so I can hang up my suit jacket when driving.
Thanks for the detail review! Great job!
One question I have is, do we really care about real-time PM2.5 reading in vehicle? Or a HEPA filter can solve it fundamentally.
it's over done, no need.
just need to know if need to change filter, or replace HEPA. reading outdoor pollution is meaning less.
@@markplott4820 It tells you why you spent all the money to get air quality. 👍
Behind a Diesel you can get 100 pm2.5 😲
2.5 parts per million is what Hepa will filter down too. It will Not filter nitrous oxides (NoX) which is what he implied and is therefore marketing.
I hope this comes with a factory screen protector. Seems like it would be impossible to install one yourself with the shape/size.
I don't even want to know how much it will cost to fix that glass if it gets damaged in any way....
Engineering Explained did a good video on interior auto glass: ua-cam.com/video/857g76Gw1Nw/v-deo.html
The only people that would care about DIY installing a new screen in this vehicle would be the 6th and 7th owners in the year 2032. Why should Mercedes care about those people?
Actually an OLED consumes more than a regular TFT with backlighting, see laptops with OLED having at least one less hour of usage compared to same laptops but TFT versions. In this case, the colors are dark, so it probably consumes more or less the same, but offers a greater image quality. There is no other way to obtain pure black with zero light bleeding. That is why all phones have OLED (except the very cheap ones) screens and they wirk for many years without problems. I trust they implemented some pixel shifting & refreshing to safe from those shadowing artefacts.
OLED laptops tend to be higher resolution. OLEDs at 150nits of brightness tend to consume ~20% less energy when displaying 50% gray. It's only when you start going beyond 200 with white content that things start going downhill quickly. Also, Tesla's use the less energy efficient IPS not TFT.
@@ch4.hayabusa IPS is a form of TFT, it is not something else. Indoubt it is 150 nits, in light you cannot see much at 150. At night, sure, nuo daytime. Anyways, I expect good things.
TFT may be more efficient but compared to OLED it is horrible in all other parameters. OLED is simply the best looking display bar none. Infinite viewing angle with 100% blacks thus the highest contrast bar none, even the best plasmas could not approach this level of color accuracy and contrast. Efficiency is the same as the best LED AKA excellent. In comparison, TFT it a crude technology.
@@Wised1000 Yes. There are 2 mentions, though: the regular OLEDs do not have very high luminosity levels to be easily used in the light (see laptops, they have 400 nits when TFTs go 500 and more), although it is possible if we look at the phones; second is the nasty shadowing effects on the screen which need different tricks to avoid.
how often do I have to take it back to the dealership? how much does it cost with a decent set of added options?
It will be back at the dealership often, to replace and repair many many defects and fails
MB design the EQS to require frequent unnecessary repair.
Mercedes Motto, "If you have to ask the price....you can't afford it"!
I think it's over the top for most folk, sure some will buy it but I think they'll tire with all the gimmicks.
awesome !!! on the C class the door handle lights won't turn on if a passenger is on that side of the car, curious if this does the same. Thank you!
Really good video 👌
Thanks Mike
That center screen looks *smaller* than the S and X screen 🤔
The air quality doodas are extraordinarily valued in other parts of the world known for their particularly nasty air quality, for example India and China. Again, given that MB is a worldwide premium brand, those little "touches" are targeted to those costumers.
Thanks. Love the screen treatment, but what's up with the lighting? My grandfather's 6.3 would have been appalled.
Looks a lot fancier and yet significantly less expensive than a Lucid! Interesting to compare sales at the end of this year for the two (including the 500-1000 / year from Lucid's Saudi investors).
Although Scott says he hasn't used grab handles ever, just wait until he's into his 60s-he will. I'm disabled AND 60-grab handles are EXTREMELY important to me!
I wonder is Mercedes sells to people my age or older? 🤔
What good is the puddle light if it's way outside the door?
Seems to me to be hyper gadgetry with existing tech to achieve high tech luxury. Three screens adds complexity and therefore cost. Hepa filter was first introduced by Tesla and now people are concerned with air quality. They were concerned long before when they banned diesel trucks in school zones. Mercedes is following suit with EV which is great and people will love what they bring because it is a beautiful car.
We will see how well this deals with summers in south east Texas.
Quite the expensive repair/replacement.
I like the large screen that is actually integrated and not like Tesla where it looks like some kid has slapped a tabled on an old car.
What is the front headroom on this car? I'm 6'4.5" with most of my height in my back. The rake of the windshield and low roof would indicate that this is a car for the"vertically challenged ".
Amaing review! Would you happen to know how to watch movies on that passenger screen?
Fingerprints are the bane of all screens! Perhaps a screen cleaning pad container..
That would probably raise the MSRP of this car by ANOTHER $2k! 😳
Great job Scott! Personally I’m embarrassed for Mercedes-Benz.
Great overview! It looks like the the front passenger is able to play video games. Is that possible when the car is moving?
Great walk-through. But one comment about the lack of grab handles by the doors. There is a group of us consumers that are now assisting our parents or others with limitations where the grab handles are very important for people to grab and steady themselves as they get into and out of the seat. With an aging population, I suggest, the market while small will be growing. Door width, seat placement, and step-over height are also critical for those with knee limitations.
How much additional weight goes into this car with all of this stuff? As a result, how many miles are lost due to the extra weight?
31:30 might not record, but just show if you're close enough to your garage wall(s) whenever you get home/to work's parking garage.
Kind of like having the dealer read you the instruction manual.
29:00 The touchpad wobbles like the interior lighting in a small Fiat.
What capabilities does it have for voice recognition, and voice commands?
I'm glad "creep" can be disabled. I've always thought creep is a bug, not a feature, I thought it was strange when Tesla added that some years ago.
OLEDs can consume anywhere from 40% to 130% the energy of an LCD. It depends on it's brightness and the content. They are not inherently more power efficient, especially at high brightness.
What's nice is Mercedes has made the interface out of mostly dark colours, so this is going to be on the more efficient side. They've played to the advantages of the screens.
PM2.5, that's particulate matter with a size of 2.5 microns. You know, the ones that can affect your blood-brain-barrier and cause inflammation and what not. The bad stuff.
Thank you for the tour, Scott. It is nice to see what happend somewhere outside Tesla.
From the Camera angle it looks like you can not really see the front of the car.
Also this large screen, the LED stuff, it is very irritating. The more I see from that car, the more it looks like an aircraft cockpit from mid 2000 combined with a seatrow in the buissenessclass.
I personally prefer the clean dashboard from Tesla, no unneeded extra stuff, blingbling and lights, but I think, some ppl want that Mercedes.
As I could see, the range is ~300miles?
I can attest that you cannot see the front. Not to worry you can use the line of sight to tell where its at. Finally the instant you approach any object the cameras automatically turn on.
The range is 340 miles EPA. Real world test are 400 to 424. Unlike Tesla which always misses EPA by 10 to 15% The Germans have chosen a testing criteria where the vehicles over deliver on their EPA. The only vehicle duly tested with a longer range is the Lucid "Dream Edition" which is a limited edition of a couple hundred cars and is a "cheaty" version that Lucid has been handing out to the media. Real production cars will not get 500 miles.
BTW everywhere I post about Lucid. I like to get the record clear Lucid is owned by Mohammed Bin Salman, the Saudi prince that the the journalist Kashoggi dismembered and stuffed into suitcases. Food for thought.
@@Wised1000 Thank you for that informations. The range is unexpected high. I need to check some more technical facts to get the complete picture.
As my Boss is driving Mercedes and got in touch with the hybrid version e-class, he found out, electric drive is cool but he is still argumenting with range. 400mi (640km) is a good point to let him check the EQS.
For myself, not to see the cars end and only get a camera view is a no-go. Sure, if you know your car, you know where it starts...mostly :)
Some germans can not park such cars, if they can't see the end (or start). I have it all days, that someone with a SUV (also sedan) is circeling around having 1 meter space in front and can not get out the parking lot or crashs into the car in front ignoring beepers and camera. From my perspective this should be solved instead of having much LED stuff blingbling :)
I think the display will be the highest security, maybe some Blackberry QNX?
Air quality - PM is particulate matters not parts per million or so
Big screens, but the processor running them is a crappy 8-core nVidia ARM mobile processor with integrated GPU. Tesla uses a 4-core Ryzen APU with integrated graphics AND a dedicated mid-range graphics card.
Tesla D1 chip is better, exoflops Compute.
My 2014 Leaf uses....squirrels just like my 93 Geo Metro....never an issue....a liitle poop every now and then but hey....it just works!
What scents do I want? Coffee or pizza.
Grey Poupon. 😉
I bet the doorhandle LEDs still fail in a fraction over 3 years.... MB don't seem to be able to make one that lasts. W204, W205, comparable E class models, all the same - dead door handle LEDs.
The fragrance system has been available on MBs for a while now. Certainly since 2016 when I bought a C class.
...and talking of the 2016 C class....it doesn't have user profiles - I couldn't believe that my 2006 Jeep did and a 10 year newer MB didn't. And no, it wasn't an option I didn't buy, just not available. Don't know if or when they included them. Maybe with MBUX??
The interior design looks very 'Star Trek' to me - way, way too distracting an environment imo.
My C class did have a bum one. The ones on my E class have lasted 5 years and counting.
Hyper hyper! hah, awesome. i listened to scooter as a kid
Technologically Totalled from day one.
That phrase is perfect "Technologically Totaled" this car will be on that list in ~8 years when all spare parts used up, and no more being made.
All those lightsin in the cabin is making it look like one of those vodka bars that were trendy about 10y ago.
It feels like somewhere along the road of " Focus on Customer Centric Design", Benz forgot the actual use of an Infotainment System. It's overkill and People hardly use all the features that these huge Screens are offering. They better as well make the whole Windshield a big touch screen...lol
MB should have take full advantage of OLED in their NAV/Map. The BG of the map is grey meaning it is not total black and still emits light.
I like that the dash looks like a traditional dash and not like a dash with a huge screen bolted on to it. The zero layer controls and the ability to enable / disable creep also makes sense - I think every EV should offer this functionality as it only costs a few lines of code.
Tesla does offer it. Also the Model S and X which are a better comparison to the EQS also integrate the screem much more than 3/Y do it...
Maybe they could add a button alongside the start button for hand crank mode...
At least its not a start engine button...
The funny thing is that creep mode on dual-clutch transmission vehicles is entirely artifical as well, but no one ever notices or remarks on it.
You can have a vintage car driving for 50 years. Imagine this working in 20?
Sorry to be commenting so many times but I'm doing it as I watch. The EQS is, if not the best, one of the best cars tested by Euro NCAP. EV's general are much easier to design for safety since they are basically two completely empty crumple zones attached to an ultrastrength center box which holds the battery. What will I'm certain to come up in the future is how bad EVs are to other ICE vehicles in a crash. For example, an EQS is more than half a ton heavier than an S class. In fact its as heavy as an F 150, though not the same since the form factor is that of a normal sedan.
And that weight is exactly what makes EVs more dangerous to other cars on the road.
@@Factoryseconds123 Dont forget that in the USA the best selling vehicles are full size pickups. Those are much worse since not only are they as heavy or heavier, they are also taller and thus override sedan crash protection.
'Light_Pipes'____perfek for a German Luxury Vehicle!!
Looks incredibly tacky. The wood finish does blend well. Not to mention the processor is underpowered. The UI, graphics, map visuals just looks dated. I'm getting IOS pre 7.0 vibes.
Wait till wifey lets the dog in the front seat and poochey scratches the screen and they have to take out a second mortgage to fix it!
People on that price tag don't sweat nor emit anything, even no dirt... we just don't know
That‘s what struck me as odd the most. The whole car feels like it was designed by a guy in a beige suit.
Is it nice? Sure, but everything feels kinda old-school. The excessive amount of buttons, even flappy-paddles for regen-settings? That‘s something you usually set once and forget. As are the seat-settings which are prominently placed on the door to be set once for your profile and never be touched again.
Then the UI from a phone from 2005 (single huge icons you have to scroll through.. like, seriously?)
I guess it‘s what cars used to look like, but once you get rid of all that nonsense, you really don‘t miss it.
That said, I‘m glad there are options like this for people who really want it old-school.
AC vent gimbals $3200 each.
It becomes tacky very shortly, just like the large screen across the car. Mercedes is put more and more and more and more into the car in the field luxurious
It IS tacky, right from the start.
more more more just throw everything in there.
"Creep" (imitating an automatic transmission drag) has been in the Tesla Model S since 2012. 10 years ;-)
Creep function is for hearses, Mercedes produce a lot of them for European market
Gage cluster is LCD because of it's 3d function
Is burn in not a concern for the old screens?
The only people who need to worry about burn in are the people with 400 credit scores buying this vehicle off a buy here pay here lot in the year 2035 lol
I often find myself wishing for better “ looks and feels” when I drive my Tesla model 3.
Sorry but that infotainment screen is skinned with windows media player skin from windows vista... They just lifted the whole theme, buttons and all. Now I can't unsee it.
"oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz, my friends all drive Teslas I must make amends"
Movie 🎬 🎞 🎥 watching for passengers is a NO GO. #NHTSA will have #Mercedes recall that feature.
Cool modern dash but my grandma’s old Lexus seats in there looks like. What a strange mix of boomer interior with want to be Tesla modern/minimal dash.
Technology overload that will be impossible to navigate safely while driving. My C Class is bad enough!!
Activate Level 3 driving! :-)
too many buttons & control are a Distraction. having a Intergrated touchscreen is less distracting w/ voice control & steering wheel MINIMAL button.
@@abraxastulammo9940 only at low speeds on highways in traffic. That doesn’t really count
(I'm never going to grow up)
Is the air quality sensor real-time? Could a trip to Taco Bell be an "off scale high" challenge for a car full of friends?
lol! I'll show myself out...
Many Mercedes owners do, in fact, fart.
@@niftybass Many Mercedes owners ARE, in fact, farts. 😁