@@امیرحسین-ط6ج How? It took 5 years for Ant-man to reach the Avengers; they needed Tony to figure Quantum time-travel; and, they needed either Thor or Hulk to resist the infinity gauntlet.
I agree, like if they want to make a exciting what if story about Howard Is a what of scenario of him join the avengers against loki, the ultron battle, civil war, infinity war and endgame as the leader or the main member of the avengers
Honestly, the 4 major problems this show had are as follows: 1. They didn't do the concepts we wanted 2. They did concepts nobody cared about 3. Inaccuracies with the "unaffected canon" (the events that are supposed to be the same as canon despite the changes made by the what if for example GOTG2 should have already happened by the time ultron won yet somehow ultron kills the guardians on the planet they were on in the GOTG2 intro) 4. They made the episodes crossover.
Problem 5 Making episodes fix to 30 minutes. Most of the episodes had stories that needed more time but they just piled it up for completing within 30 minutes (like hela found ten rings one or especially kahhori one where you are setting up a completely different world and a completely new character who doesn't have any present in mcu or comics)
@memeboyr6177 what makes problem 3 more worst is that of what you think is right, that means Ultron was never supposed to kill Thanos. I mean Thanos went to his quest after gotg 2 (he was waiting till powerful beings like ego, hela, odin or ancient one went out of the way)
@Axson_Cinema hell over arching storys could be done Like sezon1 stayes the same Sezon two is focused on demons and gods like ghost rider.hella.dark Phoenix, Deadpool WHO banded death And they get teamed ul bcs supreme strange wants to DEVOUR their power Over arching storys could work JUST DONT FOCUS ON ONE OVERARCHING STORY
I saw tweet that said "this is why Spider-Man is popular characters for decades" and the pic show Hollywood Agatha. I guess MCU want elevate unpopular characters but failed horribly.
@FreakTesticals I would beg to differ. The original captain Carter episode is easily one of my and many others favourites. The problem was that they couldn’t leave her in her own universe and had to bring a street-level superhero into the multiverse.
She would work better as elseworlds character. In which some (within reason.) famous heroes were actually the love interest in the mainstream timeline.(Red she-hulk, spider-Gwen, less tragic origin Jane Foster ETC.) Disney would have hit two birds with that format. (A well written M-She-U with its own fanbase)
If i were a What If director i would have made episode what if Eddie Brock died and Venom returned and bonded with Spider-Man what if real Mysterio appeared in Far Far Home the one doesn't use drones to create illusions
If it was Kahhori I would’ve given her a pass since she was made for the What If series. But no, let’s make Captain Carter the most important character in the multiverse, despite being a British Captain America.
@@PrestonTheSooza when? Name one time they made What If the captain Carter show. You can’t because it’s more about seeing different stories in the Multiverse
It really feels like the writers have 0 respect for the audience lol. Make a whole episode dedicated to recruiting Infinity Ultron, and then let him barely serve any purpose in the next episode and immediately kill him off. What was the point of getting everyone hyped? Is the audience a joke?
@airrider-jk9ik And what? Seeing all the reviews, this show is nowhere near "perfect". And all I said in my comment was that the weight they gave on Ultron in E7 and E8 was extremely unbalanced and inconsistent with the viewers' expectations. It's not hard to understand.
Like, what if Abraham Erskine survived? (A universe where the original creator of the super solder formula survived the attack on the lab and was able to make more supersolders for the war effort.) What if Steve Rogers became the Incredable Hulk? (A universe were instead of being made into the first supersolder, Erskines formula turned steve into the first green Hulk, and at the end of the episode he fights a Red Skull version of the Red Hulk.) What if Loki became Worthy? (A universe were thor is killed while in exhile and loki, instead of using it as an excuse to invade earth, becomes saddend and remorseful, he proceeds to self exhile himself from asgaurd to live among humans, and through a sereas of events, becomes worthy of the hammer and becomes the god of mischief and thunder.) What if Ultron never went rouge? (A universe were tony worded ultrons main directive differently or ultron didnt have internet access the moment he came online results in a version of ultron who , while still self aware, ultimately seeks to protect humanity instead of destroying it.) What if quick silver survived? (Listen, we all know his death is bullshit and i want this episode soley to make marvel admit that his deth was bullshit.) What if the other half was snapped away? (A universe were the surviving half got snapped instead, the question Could be raised as to weather or not they could even bring everone back as without Scott Lange they might not discover the time altering effects of Pym particles and without Tony the would be able to make the equations to harnes it for time travel.) The fact that there are more interesting ideas that dont even stray that far from the MCU show how hard they dropped the ball with this show.
@cyborg2254 Yeah like a battle between what if heroes, with different ideals. One wants to interfere much in other universe while the other is about letting nature run its course.
@OrbPrime11 That's the proof that they only wanted a girl power moment show because they end season two with that, and we never go back to that. For some reason they replace thor with storm were did she even come from and the birdie character. She was with black widow to end season two. Girl power moment is over disney hasn't gotten the memo yet. It's sad to see
Yall are tho only ones who made it like that?? Im not defending the ep, but rather calling out the fact it’s literally an infinite multiverse, there were people born around the same time ??you’re mad about people who only want to please
i bet they were thinking about the live action darcy. that girl has better tits than sydney sweeney but marvel refuses to show them off. every movie or show they have her covered up in a big jacket or sweater.
Probably someone who watched the Howard the duck movie I think he ends up dating a human woman in that movie, idk I didn’t watch it I know of it because of the nostalgia critic
While I agree with the others about s2 Mando being good, I do think there's a formula here with Disney. - establish/ buy a popular IP - create a narrative that does enough to draw people in. - swap the male leads for underdeveloped female leads and then say the female leads were better than the male ones all along. Bo Katan with Mando, Rey with Star Wars, Captain Carter to Cap, She-Hulk to Hulk, (Black Panther gets a pass as that wasn't their fault,) Riri to Iron Man, Shang Chi's sis beating him in the cage fight.... and then there's the bait n switch to tendencies; Leia and Riva to Kenobi, Kate Bishop to Hawkeye, Mando s3 with 'anyone could be the Mandalorian,' Doctor Strange 2 with Wanda and America.... I'm tired boss.
I feel this show truly showed how uncreative the writers are, this ”what if” scenario is like a blank canvas for an artist to express themselves completely, the fact this is what they came up with truly shows the lack of creativity in these writers
I blame the managers, mostly because I don’t know what it looks like behind closed doors The basic idea being that the bulk of the writers were simply given bulletpoints that they were fully guided through, assuming at least someone had other ideas they weren’t able to express, or were overridden by the chosen direction.
What if should've been an anthology series, not a series that connect with each other. At first I liked Captain Carter but they just wasted episodes on her. What ifs are supposed to be one and done, if they got a 2 parter that's fine but they wasted episodes on a connected story that wasn't interesting nor good. Why didn't they just make a Captain Carter series or a guardians of the multiverse series? Howard the Duck is my favorite character and even I believe he shouldn't have gotten an episode. That episode was just an excuse to put his daughter in the final episode.
Yeah, and then Marvel could just turn it into a long running fan service machine (That would also allow them to experiment and understand their audience). I don't understand why not since it could've made them a bunch of money and sweetened the reputation of the MCU.
Dawg the fact that my goat & the literal face of marvel Spider-Man only showed up in one episode is criminal meanwhile captain carter gets almost an entire season worth of episodes to herself
Worse yet IT HAD NO SAUCE when they combined it should be interesting, whether flashy and bombastic like power rangers or voltron or complex like bayformers davistator, or short and simple like fall of cybertron bruticus
One of the reason why season 1 was so good is because each episode's character were assembled for the finale. That was a cool concept, but somehow they scrapped (most of) it and chose to go for "The Adventure of Capt Carter" instead. Also, The Watcher was the real main character for the first season and we were following his journey from watching to saving the multiverse. But in season 3 I don't even know what to follow anymore.
The fact that in season 3 episode 7 we were hyped for the return of Infinity ultron but in episode 8 they fr done him dirty in the beginning of the episode
The whole point of What If... was seeing how a change in one moment created a new story, like what if Peggy became the super solder and what if Quil got delivered to Ego. But when the episodes just started doing random crap like Howard x Darcy, Happy Hogan Christmas stuff, or that one story about the original character in season 2, nobody asked for those. People wanted things they've seen in the MCU, not some fanfiction that can be their own stand alone stuff.
Someone attributed it to a cry for help from the writing team Which that itself gives me a similar vibe to what the writer for Superior Spider-Man did…
Season one had the type of what ifs we actually wanted, it told almost the entire story of what happened differently and had actual major events such as zombies or what if all of the avengers died. The other 2 seasons literally just focus on the least relevant plot points changing and only cover a single part of the story such as season 2 episode one. Easily the best representation of a what if is episode 8 of season one where it shows ultrons conquest to restore peace and actually showing how the ENTIRE story changes
I was Interested at captain carter at first season but once she got out of her own universe? I dissapointed that they pushed her way too far like how tf she could spam all the 6 infinity stones like its her basic skill while the others struggled even dying just by using one of the stone 😂
they could have easily milked xmen or f4 stuff in the show, maybe like what if they showed up in the first avenger, yet they decided to have a duck have a baby with a human being
My thoughts exactly! I was thinking they could have done, “what if the X-men were at the Battle of New York?” Either alongside, or instead of the Avengers. “What if…” was the perfect opportunity for them to test the waters of the X-men in the MCU without having to worry about it fitting with established canon.
ill try to say it without being a sexist jerk: The biggest crime is that they had samurai ghost rider and we got a group of overpowered undeveloped characters
@@yamomix6775 I agree with you but I don’t even think that group was a problem, the problem is the episodes they came from and the unoriginality of the show
The gender isn't the problem, the lack of development and interest is. Like Sinister Strange was the best character in the show then they just randomly made him evil to make Other bad characters better. Such as Kahhori and Carter
I still can’t believe they cut the Iron man and Gomorrah from season one instead of the zombies one, when one was super important to the finale but not the other
the zombie one was fkng trash lol literally the avenger try to fight a army of undead mfs without suits and with only 5 guys with not hulk or thor lol what in the fvcc
I liked the hela one personally I thought it was kinda cool to see more about her but I almost wish it was more like what if hela and Thor swapped places like I feel like that would’ve been way better
i feel like the biggest problem is the one that was said constantly what if felt like the captain carter and friends show,she didn't need to appear so much i feel like she may have even more screentime than the watcher,a character that appeared in every episode,i woudn't be suprised if that was true
It wasn't good because of the decisions they made, it had potential but the storyline they chose wasnt good, u are telling me all it took for hela to beat odin was some kungfu training? The god thats so powerful he shakes the earth with his mere presence (said so in that very episode) was knocked to his knees with a punch from the ten rings?? Yh get that bs off the screen lol
mty guy is right. some of these what if episodes justify thanos motives to snap half the universe. he just didnt wanna hurt everyones feelings about the real reason he was snapping.
Marvel has 80000 registered original characters that they could use for what if.. but they keep focusing on boring and repetitive characters. Multi verse theory represents multiple world undisclosed and unused, but they focused on boring and useless characters with known origin stories..
I liked Captain Carter in Season 1, and enjoyed her team-up with Kahorri in Season 2. But nothing they did with her in Season 3 was good, interesting, or made any sense.
They should've had What If episodes like this. Random ideas I thought of: What If: ...Psylocke, Elektra and Silver Sable were all raised like sisters and trained by the Hand? ...Sabertooth became Weapon X and went through the adamantium bonding process instead of Wolverine? ...Cloak & Dagger, Vulcan and Proteus all became Horsemen Of Apocalypse? ...The Thing is the only one to (supposedly) survive a nuclear World War? ...The Phoenix Force skipped Jean Grey and inhabited instead Deathbird of the Shi'ar Empire? ...Sauron made multiple clones of himself and afterwards remade all of Earth as the Savage World? ...Daisy Johnson led an Inhumans black ops squad? I wish this show would've taken more risks creatively like the What If comic series and didn't just use only MCU related characters. I think that absolutely limited what stories they could tell right from the start unfortunately.
They act like Uatu is doing the right thing by saving anyone he feels like in the end, but we see in the doctor strange episode that saving certain people can literally end a universe. He should only interview with big deals, like saving universes.
There’s a lot left to be desired with this one, but in terms of the episodes I enjoyed and will probably rewatch in future Season 1: All except for the Thor episode. Season 2: Peter Quill vs 80s Avengers and Kahhori’s introduction. Season 3: Red Guardian and Winter Soldier, Western Shang Chi and Hawkeye, and I enjoyed most of the two-part finale.
Season 1's least intresting episode was about Carter, because it was basically First Avenger, but with Carter instead of Rogers.... and then we got a frickin sequel to her story, her playing a major part in another story, being an overpowered female in finale of s2, and whatever she did in s3
Great video. I have a cool what if idea that they should have done. What if Wiccan vs the scarlet witch. Basically it would take place in Wandavision and in Agatha ( beige more how she is in the comics) knows she not strong enough to save the town from Wanda’s spell, but then sh finds out that her son Billy is also is strong in chaos magic and might be able to defeat the scarlet witch, so she decides to train him. The episode ends with an epic finale battle with the scarlet witch and Wiccan, that ends with Wiccan winning and saving the people of the town.
Even that S1 Thor episode had a great fight between him and Captain Marvel. The idea of the Agatha episode one character who lives a long time meeting a different character who is like that can be a good episode but need to keep a constant theme as if they wanted it to be them just in Hollywood tell just that, if they wanted it being her stealing power just be that. While Captain Carter having that follow up episode in S2 was good the idea of her becoming the hero of What If was stupid. If it was to get more Haley Atwell I get, but having her be a different character in other universes would be better.
8:30 that aint hulk, thats Maestro, but i agree with you fully, i left the what if series and all of marvel after 2 episodes of season 2 dropped, marvel is just complete garbage now
I honestly didn't know they made season 2. I just got the notification that they are releasing season 3 and thought to myself wait there's a season 2?!
season one was so fire and amazing, marvel zombies, star lord t'challa, super ultron, evil strange and the episode where the avengers died that showed how all there stories were happening in a very close time period, all those ideas were really amazing excluding party thor episode, season two was good somewhat with episodes like when star lord got controlled by his father and iron man's episode wasn't that bad but season three was ass, 0 sense, 0 ideas, 7th time captain carter was glazed
The only episodes I liked from season 3 were the Red Gaurdian and Howard the Duck ones. They were both fun and inoffensive to me. But I’m glad we can all unite in out hatred for industry plant Captain Carter.
I could list a dozen ideas that would’ve been more interesting that Season 3. Some that I’ve seen online, and some of my own ideas: - What If Kang Found The World Forge (i.e. what if Kang created the Eternals) - What if the Other Half was snapped? (This is a pretty common one) - What if Mysterio went to Kamar Taj? - What if Ultron never went rogue? - What if the X-Men saved New York? - What if Bucky was found instead of Cap? (End of Captain America 1) - What if Ikaris led the Avengers? - What if Storm was worthy? (Should’ve been episode 1 of season 3 off the bat) - What if Billy and Tommy escaped the hex? Maybe they could’ve done it where every season would have its own big bad villain? Would’ve been infinitely more interesting and entertaining. Let us see characters who haven’t debuted in the MCU, like young Iron Fist in the Wild West episode.
Darcy feels like one of those characters five year old me would mention to make it look like I actually care about the boring background plots of the MCU films. She serves her purpose to the characters she interacts with, but she shouldn't really get the spotlight for an entire film or episode of What if. Same with Howey, some characters are not meant to be the main attraction. It's like when they made an entire episode of SpongeBob where Fred the fish is the protagonist and the entire episode is about "my leg" jokes.
Here are some What If ideas I thought of: What If Thor Never Became Worthy? What If Wakanda Was Never Made? What If Bruce Banner Became Sorcerer Supreme? What If Tony Stark Was Killed Before Becoming Iron Man? What If The Skrulls Invaded Earth Instead Of Loki? What If Odin Conquered All The Realms?
They had all this potential just to ruin Watu’s character, give us little Storm Thor screen time, and brought back Captain Carter anyway? All this to not get Weapon X Thanos, or Punisher Shiri.
Agatha’s show and her episode are like the best example of how to make people care about a random character vs how to make nobody care about a character
I watched all season 1 and 2, but after 2nd I lost intrest, and did not watch s3. I only watched "best moments" from each episode, and the only thing I found intresting was Mysterio winning and having White Vision as his right hand. However that episode was about iron heart. Also Storm with Mjolnir was intresting but she is the only one to not get an episode. Really sucks how this show ended. There are rumours about Star Wars What if, but if it will be like Marvel's one, then I won't bother watching it.
@endtrap101 I seriously think some of those comments had to be bots. Because Kingu was in it, a few (literally more than two) said: "this was the Eternals sequel we needed"🤔...but it took place in 1950s Hollywood...how TF could it be a sequel?🤦. It was like they didn't watch it and just posted a generic positive comment🙄.
They had all of the variants and different stories imaginable and really went "yeah, that's cool, but you know what's cooler? Genderbent Captain America. They'll love it" 💀
The What If show was always bad for me. There were some good episodes (particularly from Season 2) but the show’s just bad. I’ve been saying this for almost 4 years now, but the show shouldn’t have been MCU related. Call me biased, but the What If series should’ve been live action if it was MCU related. It could’ve been a show that told what if stories of Marvel cartoons, like what if Mary Jane died in the 94 Spider-Man series, or what if Ultron won in Avengers Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, hell it could’ve been somewhat ridiculous like what if Captain America lead the Super Hero Squad, or what if Hit-Monkey became a force for evil. Or hell, what if the Genosha attack never happened in X-Men 97. But no, the show has to be MCU related, so let’s make crappy fanfics like what if Killmonger kills Tony Stark for no reason, or What If Howard the Duck got laid.
gotta be honest, this is by far my least favor0ite thing marvel has put out on disney plus, if i had to rewatch it id probably choose to skip 80 percent of the episodes. i was SOOOO DISAPPOINTED with Agathas episode. turning her into a celestial, with kingo of all people, just trash
What If is the perfect example of what happens when you give the most creative project to the most uncreative people, all of the what ifs at the end of the show seemed more interesting than most of the show
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Just sad sad 💧
At least we can remember the good times of season 1 😔
@@Axson_Cinema yh🤝in our universe this show is mid and in Another its peak good but that this universe we have this show is bad
I think your just scared of women like say one actual criticism about peggy
Maybe you should make a video talking about the scenarios they should have done in the show
First season: What if....?
Second season: What the hell?
Final season: wtf
best way to say it
EXCELLENT AXSON CINEMA WORK.
Lol
What the femminism
Season 2 not that bad but season 3 trash 🗑️
It's a crime we never got "What if the other half was snapped by Thanos?" as a two-parter
It was the easiest layup to do but yet marvel didn’t do it 😔
We didn't need that. That would end the same
@@امیرحسین-ط6ج Nah,Thanos would probably win in that case, there was no one like the hulk to do the first snap to bring the other half back
@@maritoxico9982 I mean, someone would probably sacrifice their life
@@امیرحسین-ط6ج
How? It took 5 years for Ant-man to reach the Avengers; they needed Tony to figure Quantum time-travel; and, they needed either Thor or Hulk to resist the infinity gauntlet.
Captain Carter was great....when she stayed in her universe.
Uatau is at fault
@countriesusedcars302yeah he shouldn't have yapped so that Ultron could change his mindset
Exactly, most people wouldn’t have a problem with her if she was in her own stories
brooo exactly. now that i think about it she also leave her steve rogers, the exact opposite to main universe steve
Greats a stretch. It’s a retelling of the first avenger with minimal change. It was good
We really went from "What if Ultron won" to "What if Howard the Duck clap Darcie's cheeks"
😭
"I have seen everything,everything that could happen,everything that will happen, but this what the hell is this"
"It should have been me! Not him! It should have been ME!"
I agree, like if they want to make a exciting what if story about Howard
Is a what of scenario of him join the avengers against loki, the ultron battle, civil war, infinity war and endgame as the leader or the main member of the avengers
Honestly, the 4 major problems this show had are as follows:
1. They didn't do the concepts we wanted
2. They did concepts nobody cared about
3. Inaccuracies with the "unaffected canon" (the events that are supposed to be the same as canon despite the changes made by the what if for example GOTG2 should have already happened by the time ultron won yet somehow ultron kills the guardians on the planet they were on in the GOTG2 intro)
4. They made the episodes crossover.
problem4 is the worst one but it could only work in s1 finale when only Strange and Watcher would fight Ultron.
@file_boi020 problem 3 makes problem 4 even worse cause most of these characters that crossover shouldn't even exist
Problem 5
Making episodes fix to 30 minutes. Most of the episodes had stories that needed more time but they just piled it up for completing within 30 minutes (like hela found ten rings one or especially kahhori one where you are setting up a completely different world and a completely new character who doesn't have any present in mcu or comics)
@memeboyr6177 true
@memeboyr6177 what makes problem 3 more worst is that of what you think is right, that means Ultron was never supposed to kill Thanos. I mean Thanos went to his quest after gotg 2 (he was waiting till powerful beings like ego, hela, odin or ancient one went out of the way)
first it was "a show about endless posybylitys and worlds to explore"
then it became "captain carter adventure's with multivers buddys"
Agreed it should have been one episode stories instead they try to make this overarching story which we didn’t need
@Axson_Cinema hell over arching storys could be done
Like sezon1 stayes the same
Sezon two is focused on demons and gods
like ghost rider.hella.dark Phoenix, Deadpool WHO banded death
And they get teamed ul bcs supreme strange wants to DEVOUR their power
Over arching storys could work
JUST DONT FOCUS ON ONE OVERARCHING STORY
How does one fucking up spelling "possibilities" this bad 💀
@@jakubtrapp3509 eh I still think strange supreme trying to devour power undermined and would undermine his sacrifice at the end of season 1
It never left the original premise
We got Spider-Man in one episode...
And Howard The Duck in five..
😒🤦
Seriously, who's the weirdo in the writing room with the 🦆 fetish?
In the star lord episode he was basically just a cameo
Correct.
I saw tweet that said "this is why Spider-Man is popular characters for decades" and the pic show Hollywood Agatha.
I guess MCU want elevate unpopular characters but failed horribly.
The biggest problem with What If was, ironically enough, trying to make it a tied-together narrative instead of leaving it as an anthology
I agree. Self contained anthology across all seasons to get the creative juices flowing.
There was never no "What if" It was just.. "Captain carter: Across the multiverse."
"Captain Mary Sue in the Multiverse of Wokeness"
@@varricNo one asked for Peggy bruh🙏😭
@FreakTesticals I would beg to differ. The original captain Carter episode is easily one of my and many others favourites. The problem was that they couldn’t leave her in her own universe and had to bring a street-level superhero into the multiverse.
Ah,yes,the quad-G sin of Hollywood: Generic Gross Girl-boss Garbage
What annoys me about it is that we never got any proper Spider Man episodes, he was only in the zombie episode and even that was shit
His zombie hunter design looked very lazy they just added a cape to his Civil War suit
The most iconic marvel hero and not even a single episode to himself 😔
I didn't like the Zombies episode, and have no interest in the upcoming Marvel Zombies project.
@@aaronfaganstarr3942 iron man is the most iconic but spiderman is probably debatable
Which is wild because he is the Alternate Dimension Varirants galore Cashcow in Comics😂
Big fan of agent Carter. I think the Captain Carter character is a slap in the face
Would have been cooler if she became a british spy or assassin like winter solder and steve was the bruser in the armour
The whole point was that she was capable without any powers, now she’s just another overpowered female protagonist
She would work better as elseworlds character. In which some (within reason.) famous heroes were actually the love interest in the mainstream timeline.(Red she-hulk, spider-Gwen, less tragic origin Jane Foster ETC.) Disney would have hit two birds with that format. (A well written M-She-U with its own fanbase)
We just turned "possible timelines" into "the misadventures of Captain carter"
No they didn’t
@@deadpooldan9862 they literally did
If i were a What If director i would have made episode what if Eddie Brock died and Venom returned and bonded with Spider-Man what if real Mysterio appeared in Far Far Home the one doesn't use drones to create illusions
If it was Kahhori I would’ve given her a pass since she was made for the What If series. But no, let’s make Captain Carter the most important character in the multiverse, despite being a British Captain America.
@@PrestonTheSooza when? Name one time they made What If the captain Carter show. You can’t because it’s more about seeing different stories in the Multiverse
It really feels like the writers have 0 respect for the audience lol.
Make a whole episode dedicated to recruiting Infinity Ultron, and then let him barely serve any purpose in the next episode and immediately kill him off. What was the point of getting everyone hyped? Is the audience a joke?
Liberal writters
i swear they could make the perfect show and y'all would still cry about something
@airrider-jk9ik And what? Seeing all the reviews, this show is nowhere near "perfect". And all I said in my comment was that the weight they gave on Ultron in E7 and E8 was extremely unbalanced and inconsistent with the viewers' expectations. It's not hard to understand.
@airrider-jk9ik Yeah ikr "what if Howard _THE DUCK_ and Darcy had a child" is so peak?
@@LifeIsDecent love how the only options for y’all is “peak” and “terrible”
Y’all need to grow up
Like, what if Abraham Erskine survived? (A universe where the original creator of the super solder formula survived the attack on the lab and was able to make more supersolders for the war effort.)
What if Steve Rogers became the Incredable Hulk? (A universe were instead of being made into the first supersolder, Erskines formula turned steve into the first green Hulk, and at the end of the episode he fights a Red Skull version of the Red Hulk.)
What if Loki became Worthy? (A universe were thor is killed while in exhile and loki, instead of using it as an excuse to invade earth, becomes saddend and remorseful, he proceeds to self exhile himself from asgaurd to live among humans, and through a sereas of events, becomes worthy of the hammer and becomes the god of mischief and thunder.)
What if Ultron never went rouge? (A universe were tony worded ultrons main directive differently or ultron didnt have internet access the moment he came online results in a version of ultron who , while still self aware, ultimately seeks to protect humanity instead of destroying it.)
What if quick silver survived? (Listen, we all know his death is bullshit and i want this episode soley to make marvel admit that his deth was bullshit.)
What if the other half was snapped away? (A universe were the surviving half got snapped instead, the question Could be raised as to weather or not they could even bring everone back as without Scott Lange they might not discover the time altering effects of Pym particles and without Tony the would be able to make the equations to harnes it for time travel.)
The fact that there are more interesting ideas that dont even stray that far from the MCU show how hard they dropped the ball with this show.
THE AMOUNT OF HEAATTT IN THIS COMMENT IS BETTER THAN THE ENTIRE SHOW
I though that said what if Abraham Lincoln survived.
For the Snap idea, Janet could be written to have helped them with her knowledge of the Quantum realm. Maybe have Kang be involved somehow.
@JoshPeralta22 Captain Carter become president then wins against everyone because she’s Captain Carter
@@JoshPeralta22LMAO 😂
I would prefer if Captain Carter made one last appearance in her sequel episode, the one where Steve is the Winter Soldier.
I wouldn’t have minded a civil war equivalent in the third season if they hadn’t kept bringing her back for the other stuff
@cyborg2254 Yeah like a battle between what if heroes, with different ideals. One wants to interfere much in other universe while the other is about letting nature run its course.
@OrbPrime11 That's the proof that they only wanted a girl power moment show because they end season two with that, and we never go back to that. For some reason they replace thor with storm were did she even come from and the birdie character. She was with black widow to end season two. Girl power moment is over disney hasn't gotten the memo yet. It's sad to see
@@lennyrockett So true, I prefer balance between male and female heroes on how they act.
I was cool with her and Kahorris team up in Season 2, but hated her S3 appearances
I knew the show went bad when they kept bringing Peggy back.
What sick human was wondering what if Howard had a kid with a human
Yall are tho only ones who made it like that?? Im not defending the ep, but rather calling out the fact it’s literally an infinite multiverse, there were people born around the same time ??you’re mad about people who only want to please
i bet they were thinking about the live action darcy. that girl has better tits than sydney sweeney but marvel refuses to show them off. every movie or show they have her covered up in a big jacket or sweater.
Probably someone who watched the Howard the duck movie I think he ends up dating a human woman in that movie, idk I didn’t watch it I know of it because of the nostalgia critic
George Lucas
@edgareliseev1773 right he produced the movie
This show got the Mandalorian treatment
- Season 1 was awesome
- Season 2 was mid
- Season 3 was disappointing
Season 2 of Mandalorian was peak wdym
mando s2 was great
While I agree with the others about s2 Mando being good, I do think there's a formula here with Disney.
- establish/ buy a popular IP
- create a narrative that does enough to draw people in.
- swap the male leads for underdeveloped female leads and then say the female leads were better than the male ones all along.
Bo Katan with Mando, Rey with Star Wars, Captain Carter to Cap, She-Hulk to Hulk, (Black Panther gets a pass as that wasn't their fault,) Riri to Iron Man, Shang Chi's sis beating him in the cage fight....
and then there's the bait n switch to tendencies; Leia and Riva to Kenobi, Kate Bishop to Hawkeye, Mando s3 with 'anyone could be the Mandalorian,' Doctor Strange 2 with Wanda and America....
I'm tired boss.
Yep.
Give Bo Katan a pass, her arc had been building since the clone wars and she is a mandalorian which would have to involve her in the show
I feel this show truly showed how uncreative the writers are, this ”what if” scenario is like a blank canvas for an artist to express themselves completely, the fact this is what they came up with truly shows the lack of creativity in these writers
What sucks is that these same writters are gonna do x-men 97 now
@@my2randomcents thats a good thing
these writers are great
@airrider-jk9iksaid nobody
I blame the managers, mostly because I don’t know what it looks like behind closed doors
The basic idea being that the bulk of the writers were simply given bulletpoints that they were fully guided through, assuming at least someone had other ideas they weren’t able to express, or were overridden by the chosen direction.
What if should've been an anthology series, not a series that connect with each other.
At first I liked Captain Carter but they just wasted episodes on her. What ifs are supposed to be one and done, if they got a 2 parter that's fine but they wasted episodes on a connected story that wasn't interesting nor good.
Why didn't they just make a Captain Carter series or a guardians of the multiverse series?
Howard the Duck is my favorite character and even I believe he shouldn't have gotten an episode. That episode was just an excuse to put his daughter in the final episode.
Agreed anthology series would have been better than these over arching stories there were making with some of the episodes
And we didn't even get a Howard the Duck movie in the MCU franchise like come on marvel,we need another Howard the Duck movie already!
Yeah, and then Marvel could just turn it into a long running fan service machine (That would also allow them to experiment and understand their audience). I don't understand why not since it could've made them a bunch of money and sweetened the reputation of the MCU.
Dawg the fact that my goat & the literal face of marvel Spider-Man only showed up in one episode is criminal meanwhile captain carter gets almost an entire season worth of episodes to herself
We got Mysterio but no Spider-man.. just wtf. Gotta be cause Sony or something
Make episode about samarui ghost rider
Marvel: no noboudy wachta episode
Make episode about a bird and human make childe
Marvel: yes thats good idea
This should've been called, the "Captain Carter" show.
Why? It’s completely inaccurate
@@deadpooldan9862 is it though?
@@deadpooldan9862I mean she was the main character in every season though.
@@bigbirdbignews no she’s not. That’s like saying Strange Supreme is the main character because he’s in several episodes each season
@@deadpooldan9862 He wasn't even the main focus though half those episodes were just Captain Carter dealing with the other universes
The Mecha episode was rushed and I had no idea who all the Avengers were because we go no background on their vehicles or even a roll call.
Exactly the only ones I could actually recognize was Red Guardian and Moonknight
Worse yet IT HAD NO SAUCE
when they combined it should be interesting, whether flashy and bombastic like power rangers or voltron or complex like bayformers davistator, or short and simple like fall of cybertron bruticus
@jadynmurrell80Except Bruticus was epic in FOC
@@xenomorphqueenqueenalien6501 and it was still cool
@ArmyFox-z5z I think there was also Shang-Chi
One of the reason why season 1 was so good is because each episode's character were assembled for the finale. That was a cool concept, but somehow they scrapped (most of) it and chose to go for "The Adventure of Capt Carter" instead.
Also, The Watcher was the real main character for the first season and we were following his journey from watching to saving the multiverse. But in season 3 I don't even know what to follow anymore.
The fact that in season 3 episode 7 we were hyped for the return of Infinity ultron but in episode 8 they fr done him dirty in the beginning of the episode
like they did to drstrange supreme😂
The whole point of What If... was seeing how a change in one moment created a new story, like what if Peggy became the super solder and what if Quil got delivered to Ego. But when the episodes just started doing random crap like Howard x Darcy, Happy Hogan Christmas stuff, or that one story about the original character in season 2, nobody asked for those. People wanted things they've seen in the MCU, not some fanfiction that can be their own stand alone stuff.
Exactly!
The stories should have been based on specific changes to pivotal MCU events. Not completely random nonsense.
The part where they showed us the different characters was essentially “here’s what we could’ve done, see y’all later”
Someone attributed it to a cry for help from the writing team
Which that itself gives me a similar vibe to what the writer for Superior Spider-Man did…
Season one had the type of what ifs we actually wanted, it told almost the entire story of what happened differently and had actual major events such as zombies or what if all of the avengers died. The other 2 seasons literally just focus on the least relevant plot points changing and only cover a single part of the story such as season 2 episode one. Easily the best representation of a what if is episode 8 of season one where it shows ultrons conquest to restore peace and actually showing how the ENTIRE story changes
All they needed to do was show us characters we wanted to see but instead they showed us characters they want us to see.
I was Interested at captain carter at first season but once she got out of her own universe? I dissapointed that they pushed her way too far like how tf she could spam all the 6 infinity stones like its her basic skill while the others struggled even dying just by using one of the stone 😂
"What if Marvel never been sold to Disney..?"
It would possibly be owned by either sony or fox, and if it were owned by fox it would potentially be owned by disney.
@@dengeki2005who do you would be a better producer for marvel? Like either Sony or Fox owned rights to marvel?
@@captainrodrigo206 toho
"Industry plant superhero" Is WILD but accurate af 😭😭😂😂😂😂😂
they could have easily milked xmen or f4 stuff in the show, maybe like what if they showed up in the first avenger, yet they decided to have a duck have a baby with a human being
My thoughts exactly!
I was thinking they could have done, “what if the X-men were at the Battle of New York?” Either alongside, or instead of the Avengers.
“What if…” was the perfect opportunity for them to test the waters of the X-men in the MCU without having to worry about it fitting with established canon.
Only Storm had a small role in the last two episodes.
The biggest crime is that they had samurai ghost riders and we got a group of overpowered female
ill try to say it without being a sexist jerk: The biggest crime is that they had samurai ghost rider and we got a group of overpowered undeveloped characters
@@yamomix6775Who happened to be a bunch of Mary Sues
@@yamomix6775 I agree with you but I don’t even think that group was a problem, the problem is the episodes they came from and the unoriginality of the show
@yamomix6775 they all happen to be female and that isn't by accident
The gender isn't the problem, the lack of development and interest is. Like Sinister Strange was the best character in the show then they just randomly made him evil to make Other bad characters better. Such as Kahhori and Carter
Captain Britain lacks all the good qualities of captain America
I still can’t believe they cut the Iron man and Gomorrah from season one instead of the zombies one, when one was super important to the finale but not the other
the zombie one was fkng trash lol literally the avenger try to fight a army of undead mfs without suits and with only 5 guys with not hulk or thor lol what in the fvcc
Same to hank pym kill the avengers one
that episode was supposed to be in season 1, but due to the pandemic, it had to be moved to season 2
@@superfan-gfu I think that one was pretty cool actually
They didn't cut it out, that episode was in development when the Pandemic struck. They had no choice but to scrap that episode for later.
I liked the hela one personally I thought it was kinda cool to see more about her but I almost wish it was more like what if hela and Thor swapped places like I feel like that would’ve been way better
i feel like the biggest problem is the one that was said constantly
what if felt like the captain carter and friends show,she didn't need to appear so much
i feel like she may have even more screentime than the watcher,a character that appeared in every episode,i woudn't be suprised if that was true
3:19 the Hela one was really good though???
Fax and the child Star lord with the 80's avengers and I saw people liked the kahori episode and the avengers in the knight era episode
Genuine peak episode
Agreed, best episode of the show hands down
It wasn't good because of the decisions they made, it had potential but the storyline they chose wasnt good, u are telling me all it took for hela to beat odin was some kungfu training? The god thats so powerful he shakes the earth with his mere presence (said so in that very episode) was knocked to his knees with a punch from the ten rings?? Yh get that bs off the screen lol
It was just bs mfs would like it tho
If they wanted to follow up with captain Carter, why did they never just continue in her own universe?
Because they stupid
Oh nah they did, then they decided for some reason the multiverse needed her🤦
mty guy is right. some of these what if episodes justify thanos motives to snap half the universe. he just didnt wanna hurt everyones feelings about the real reason he was snapping.
What If they actually had fun
Marvel has 80000 registered original characters that they could use for what if.. but they keep focusing on boring and repetitive characters.
Multi verse theory represents multiple world undisclosed and unused, but they focused on boring and useless characters with known origin stories..
I liked Captain Carter in Season 1, and enjoyed her team-up with Kahorri in Season 2. But nothing they did with her in Season 3 was good, interesting, or made any sense.
They should just rename the show to Captain Carter. Complete disappointment of an “infinite possibility” show.
4:51 nah i checked 14 million and 1 different universes snd this is the only one where its bad
What if.. the writers had creativity and imagination🤔
They should have kept the episodes separate. It would have given much more freedom to tell all kinds of stories.
I really hate that they didnt make this show episodic/include every character equally. Making captain carter the main character makes no sense
If they really want to glaze her so bad, just make her own show. There's no reason to make her the main character in What If
Whatif we never got what if
They should've had What If episodes like this. Random ideas I thought of:
What If:
...Psylocke, Elektra and Silver Sable were all raised like sisters and trained by the Hand?
...Sabertooth became Weapon X and went through the adamantium bonding process instead of Wolverine?
...Cloak & Dagger, Vulcan and Proteus all became Horsemen Of Apocalypse?
...The Thing is the only one to (supposedly) survive a nuclear World War?
...The Phoenix Force skipped Jean Grey and inhabited instead Deathbird of the Shi'ar Empire?
...Sauron made multiple clones of himself and afterwards remade all of Earth as the Savage World?
...Daisy Johnson led an Inhumans black ops squad?
I wish this show would've taken more risks creatively like the What If comic series and didn't just use only MCU related characters.
I think that absolutely limited what stories they could tell right from the start unfortunately.
That would require good writers
They act like Uatu is doing the right thing by saving anyone he feels like in the end, but we see in the doctor strange episode that saving certain people can literally end a universe. He should only interview with big deals, like saving universes.
There’s a lot left to be desired with this one, but in terms of the episodes I enjoyed and will probably rewatch in future
Season 1: All except for the Thor episode.
Season 2: Peter Quill vs 80s Avengers and Kahhori’s introduction.
Season 3: Red Guardian and Winter Soldier, Western Shang Chi and Hawkeye, and I enjoyed most of the two-part finale.
I will never stop being pissed that they scrapped what if surtur attacked earth for what if howard the duck had a kid with Darcey
Its like the scene in endgame with the super powered "girlboss" squad just didn't hit then and didn't hit now
After watching that Howard the duck episode on Christmas, the only child Thor episode was a masterpiece
Captain carter is like the lamest concept ever id genuinely take Hawkeye winter soldier over it 1:01
Respect for not even mentioning how ultron got obliterated after 5 seconds
How’d he die?
Season 1's least intresting episode was about Carter, because it was basically First Avenger, but with Carter instead of Rogers....
and then we got a frickin sequel to her story, her playing a major part in another story, being an overpowered female in finale of s2, and whatever she did in s3
Great video. I have a cool what if idea that they should have done. What if Wiccan vs the scarlet witch. Basically it would take place in Wandavision and in Agatha ( beige more how she is in the comics) knows she not strong enough to save the town from Wanda’s spell, but then sh finds out that her son Billy is also is strong in chaos magic and might be able to defeat the scarlet witch, so she decides to train him. The episode ends with an epic finale battle with the scarlet witch and Wiccan, that ends with Wiccan winning and saving the people of the town.
Even that S1 Thor episode had a great fight between him and Captain Marvel. The idea of the Agatha episode one character who lives a long time meeting a different character who is like that can be a good episode but need to keep a constant theme as if they wanted it to be them just in Hollywood tell just that, if they wanted it being her stealing power just be that. While Captain Carter having that follow up episode in S2 was good the idea of her becoming the hero of What If was stupid. If it was to get more Haley Atwell I get, but having her be a different character in other universes would be better.
I got burned by season 2 so decided to completely get off of this project.
I now feel vindicated.
8:30 that aint hulk, thats Maestro, but i agree with you fully, i left the what if series and all of marvel after 2 episodes of season 2 dropped, marvel is just complete garbage now
I honestly didn't know they made season 2. I just got the notification that they are releasing season 3 and thought to myself wait there's a season 2?!
season one was so fire and amazing, marvel zombies, star lord t'challa, super ultron, evil strange and the episode where the avengers died that showed how all there stories were happening in a very close time period, all those ideas were really amazing excluding party thor episode, season two was good somewhat with episodes like when star lord got controlled by his father and iron man's episode wasn't that bad but season three was ass, 0 sense, 0 ideas, 7th time captain carter was glazed
What if Captain Karter never existed
My biggest criticism of what if is the fact they didn’t do any what ifs people would think of
They have infinite possibilities, but they chose "giRls gEt iT dONe"
they did ultron dirty in those last episodes
The only episodes I liked from season 3 were the Red Gaurdian and Howard the Duck ones. They were both fun and inoffensive to me. But I’m glad we can all unite in out hatred for industry plant Captain Carter.
They should have changed the title to "The Adventures of Captain Carter"
What if... "Captain Carter's Bizzare Adventure !!"
I could list a dozen ideas that would’ve been more interesting that Season 3. Some that I’ve seen online, and some of my own ideas:
- What If Kang Found The World Forge (i.e. what if Kang created the Eternals)
- What if the Other Half was snapped? (This is a pretty common one)
- What if Mysterio went to Kamar Taj?
- What if Ultron never went rogue?
- What if the X-Men saved New York?
- What if Bucky was found instead of Cap? (End of Captain America 1)
- What if Ikaris led the Avengers?
- What if Storm was worthy? (Should’ve been episode 1 of season 3 off the bat)
- What if Billy and Tommy escaped the hex?
Maybe they could’ve done it where every season would have its own big bad villain? Would’ve been infinitely more interesting and entertaining. Let us see characters who haven’t debuted in the MCU, like young Iron Fist in the Wild West episode.
What if the fans got what they wanted 🤔
Darcy feels like one of those characters five year old me would mention to make it look like I actually care about the boring background plots of the MCU films. She serves her purpose to the characters she interacts with, but she shouldn't really get the spotlight for an entire film or episode of What if. Same with Howey, some characters are not meant to be the main attraction. It's like when they made an entire episode of SpongeBob where Fred the fish is the protagonist and the entire episode is about "my leg" jokes.
Anyone wanna place bets that X-men Kahori who was in the finale for like .02 seconds is gonna be in the next season of X-men 97?
I don't know who was Agatha
I stopped at the second season, and never bothered watching the third season.
Here are some What If ideas I thought of:
What If Thor Never Became Worthy?
What If Wakanda Was Never Made?
What If Bruce Banner Became Sorcerer Supreme?
What If Tony Stark Was Killed Before Becoming Iron Man?
What If The Skrulls Invaded Earth Instead Of Loki?
What If Odin Conquered All The Realms?
They had all this potential just to ruin Watu’s character, give us little Storm Thor screen time, and brought back Captain Carter anyway? All this to not get Weapon X Thanos, or Punisher Shiri.
can’t believe you got through season 3 lmao, couldn’t get past the first episode and dipped when i heard captain carter was the rest of the season lol
what if? do you mean captain carter the series????
What if...?❌️
Captain Carter and Friends ✔️
I really like the emergence episodes mainly because it was really cool to see Mysterio win and become completely unhinged
This is a big hot take but.....I liked episode 4 of season 3
Agatha’s show and her episode are like the best example of how to make people care about a random character vs how to make nobody care about a character
the only season 2 episode I liked was the Tony Stark one with the race
7:06 Disney deserves a lawsuit for this
I watched all season 1 and 2, but after 2nd I lost intrest, and did not watch s3. I only watched "best moments" from each episode, and the only thing I found intresting was Mysterio winning and having White Vision as his right hand. However that episode was about iron heart.
Also Storm with Mjolnir was intresting but she is the only one to not get an episode.
Really sucks how this show ended.
There are rumours about Star Wars What if, but if it will be like Marvel's one, then I won't bother watching it.
3:16 nah the ten rings episode was straight gas 🔥
For me only season 1 exist
I actually thought the Hela episode was pretty cool
5:55 oh...some people did according to some shill comments🙄
True, I'm quite surprised, too. I didn't think she would have fans.
I thought that she kind of sucked
@endtrap101 I seriously think some of those comments had to be bots. Because Kingu was in it, a few (literally more than two) said: "this was the Eternals sequel we needed"🤔...but it took place in 1950s Hollywood...how TF could it be a sequel?🤦. It was like they didn't watch it and just posted a generic positive comment🙄.
They had all of the variants and different stories imaginable and really went "yeah, that's cool, but you know what's cooler? Genderbent Captain America. They'll love it" 💀
The What If show was always bad for me. There were some good episodes (particularly from Season 2) but the show’s just bad. I’ve been saying this for almost 4 years now, but the show shouldn’t have been MCU related. Call me biased, but the What If series should’ve been live action if it was MCU related. It could’ve been a show that told what if stories of Marvel cartoons, like what if Mary Jane died in the 94 Spider-Man series, or what if Ultron won in Avengers Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, hell it could’ve been somewhat ridiculous like what if Captain America lead the Super Hero Squad, or what if Hit-Monkey became a force for evil. Or hell, what if the Genosha attack never happened in X-Men 97.
But no, the show has to be MCU related, so let’s make crappy fanfics like what if Killmonger kills Tony Stark for no reason, or What If Howard the Duck got laid.
Exactly they didn’t need it to be tied to the mcu
W take bro.
What If Season 3’s characters were so stunning and brave.
what if captain carter get the f out of the series
Let Me Carve Your Way at the end caught me so off guard 😭 I wasn't expecting any Guilty Gear music lol
gotta be honest, this is by far my least favor0ite thing marvel has put out on disney plus, if i had to rewatch it id probably choose to skip 80 percent of the episodes. i was SOOOO DISAPPOINTED with Agathas episode. turning her into a celestial, with kingo of all people, just trash
Nah she hulk will forever be the worst thing marvel ever made this has it's moments at least you can rewatched on youtube
What If is the perfect example of what happens when you give the most creative project to the most uncreative people, all of the what ifs at the end of the show seemed more interesting than most of the show