Halo Infinite is still Awful
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
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There's still so many issues I haven't mentioned in this video...
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00:00 -Intro
00:42 - Gameplay
02:54 - Customisation
04:08 - Sounds
05:49 - User Interface
06:11 - Visuals
06:49 - Live Service
08:06 - Story
08:49 - Outro
Outro Credits: joosebox
#halo #haloinfinite - Ігри
Skill issue.
You actually aren't lying here.
Wtf are you talking about did you use all your mental energy to come up with this utterly retarded comment or are you just trolling because it is not only irrelevant but also stupid, do you genuinely think that you are being funny or something smh.
Halo finite skill issue
Still a mid Halo
cope, He has had skil issues in all the Halo games he has played, but only claims one is bad.
Cope harder zoomer, you missed the Heyday and it isnt coming back. defending Infinite online wont change that
I see the 343 shills have found this video
Dang we had it so good back in the Halo 2-3 era and we had no idea 😭
My friends and I used to play Halo 3 and Reach back in high school so we got together to play some co-op Halo Infinite earlier this year. The game was super glitchy and the textures would spaz out, requiring us to relaunch our games every few hours. One thing that really stood out to me was how awful the vehicle physics were. Halo has always had some weird vehicle physics (like in Halo CE when it was as if everything was on ice), but in Infinite every vehicle apart of the chopper just wanted to constantly tip over and felt bad to drive. A lot of the physics in past Halo games do not exist in Infinite, like corpse physics. It's so obvious these developers didn't give a shit.
I would put more blame on the management side of 343 but yeah still wtf why would you hire contractors instead of a solid and cohesive team? They even have Microsoft money, they need to learn that games are GAMES they have to be fun and artistic pieces first, and a selling product later, looking at Nintendo and Playstation, I don't know how can they manage to do more and better games while not having the same amounts of money as Microsoft/Xbox has, really a shame
@@chidowuan4762totally agree with that
By developers you mean the myriad of outside dev studios hired to build the game, and or the constant churn out of dev contractors? It's obvious this is the result, there was no love only a money grind. There was no talent retained by devs, people were just let go for the next replacement. This game went through development hell if you kept up with news, like how many top leadership kept changing hands?
@@Accuaro Most accurate description I've seen. But the devs need some credit, they were clearly going for really cool stuff according to the cut stuff. It's just the management hell that screwed it up
@@chidowuan4762 I've been through and worked in every single Microsoft campus building, its because Microsoft LOVES using contractors, its their business model. Its not just 343, its Microsoft as a whole. They try to use contractors for absolutely everything rather than having employees.
Something that really bothers me is if you throw a frag grenade on the grass or sand, it will bounce as if the grass or sand is made of concrete. All the way back in CE, 22 years ago, frag grenades did not bounce on grass and sand.
I mean they would bounce but only a small bounce. Just like real life physics.
They don't bounce, what weed are you huffing dawg? They bounce if you throw them at a wall or something.
@@youknowwhoiam366are u dumb?
@@youknowwhoiam366I don’t think you read the comment right big guy
I read it right.@@dane_questionmark
You've explained yourself, your experience, and your views about this game very well, and while I disagree with some points, you have my respect. 🤝
I Mostly agree with his opinions on vehicles, collisions and being too competitive focused
Competitive players should form around the game NOT the other way around
well, GO ON! Tell us what you disagree with, and why.
@@sacredxgeometry Is there a reason you've put go on in capital letters?
I can't believe I have to answer this question...it's called emphasis. have you ever heard of it?
@@sacredxgeometry Why do you need to emphasise that part specifically? Are you yelling? Comes across like you're taking this as some sort of fight rather than what it is, which is just a comment.
One minor thing that bothered me about the sound design in 343 games was that they took away all the unique melee sounds. In all Bungie games, even Halo 1, if you melee wood, it sounds like punching wood, meleeing glass sounds like glass, metal, sand, etc. Meleeing the same surface also had multiple sound variations the the same type of surface. I remembered hanging out in custom games w/ friends on weekends and punching random surfaces to pass time. This was ASMR to me back then and oddly satisfying. This level of unnecessary detail from Bungie was amazing and showed how much passion they had back then.
Ever since Halo 4, all 343 games cut corners and use the same generic noise regardless of what surface you punch. Also, this noise is too loud relative to other game sounds. Funny thing, the original graphics still had the Bungie level of details while switching the graphics to remastered uses the generic melee sound.
It begs the question: How does a 2001 game have significantly more care and detail to the sound design of melees than a game from the same franchise 20 years later?
Yeah, I would have liked to include this in the Audio/Visuals part
The reason the melee sound is too loud is because of sound normalization. This brings all sounds very close to each other in volume. This is why when you punch someone, or bump your warthog against a rock 5:18, it sounds as loud as a gunshot.
The reason is because 343 is a bunch of brain dead lazy individuals.
the level of care is one thing, the technology and system is another. I think Halo Reach had the most care put into it (mostly because it was Bungie's sendoff), and I also think they should have stopped technology and system requirements at Halo Reach. Halo Infinite on lowest graphics settings runs like garbage, even on a mid-level graphics card. And yet, Halo Reach runs at max fps on highest graphics settings and still looks amazing.
Honestly, this video was really good and exactly what I’ve been feeling. I played firefight for a few hours and all I realized from playing it was how bad it was compared to Reach or any other iteration that came before. It’s crazy to see how people actually defend this game. I’ve been playing halo for almost all my life now, so it is unfortunate to see the next iteration fall short. I’ve deleted and redownloaded infinite a couple times every few months to see the changes, but none of the new updates add much of value. So sad…
i been playing halo my whole life too and i love infinite now. sure it was barebones at first but its probably second to H3 on my list. KOTH firefight is different and i dont expect every iteration to be the same. Reach firefight wasnt identical to ODST. Its crazy to see how people bash this game at this point. its probably the best free to play mp from a content and variety standpoint. Also as a die hard fan I feel Infinite is flawed but still better than half the entries as of 2024 imo. besides h3 there is no other Halo i would go back to over infinte.
Reach MP sucked
@@themetachief3412skill issue
any damn game can be better than halo infinite, I get sick just trying to find a game, I wait 30 minutes and nothing, part of the blame for the game being terrible is people like you who don't admit that the game was horrible@@GoldLBS
@@GoldLBS I'd be curious to know what other FPs games you enjoy - because Infinite plays like all of them. Just sprint, sliding around, crouch when you land to slide, stupid gimmicks like colorful guns and cat ears all on generic human style maps...so many FPS games play like that. It's fun but eh, so are most games. Halo needs to do its own thing, which is to go back to the social based and low-grav, goofy physics FPS on a huge diversity of maps that is Halo 3.
Interestingly, the only reason Infinite is so well liked is because it is the most 'Haloy' Halo 343 has made - MC armor looks like his in H3, first story to return to a ring, a MC based story, reduced enhanced mobility (compared to H5), a diverse sand box and equipment. The lack of content was never the issue with the game and why the player drop-off was so large, as EVERYONE reckons, the issue with the game is it's so much like every other FPS.
Finally someone who’s actually realistic about this game instead of overhyping it in an attempt to stop the franchise from dying.
The game has gotten better which is a step in the right direction, but it still has a long way to go.
YOUR NOT LYING, everything you said in the beginning can make the game better. They just won’t do it and it’s sad. The problem too is that they changed halo and they have no reason to change some of the stuff for the previous seasons.
I personally dont agree with the idea that Halo shouldn't change. but thats just my opinion, I really have fun with the way more fast paced nature of the game. I still like classic halo but find myself going back to infinite MP more
Actually it’s you’re 🤓👆
@@bigksl BLAH BLAAHH 😂😝
@@Kaimerah Halo should change but where it needs change. The problem with Halo 4, Halo 5 and Halo Infinite is that they keep on changing the fundamentals when the obvious answer is to leave everything people loved alone. Like for example, there's literally no reason to have shock weapons in this game they do the same thing the other weapons do and take away the EMP blast the charged plasma pistol did, that is an unnecessary change. That's why 343 halo fail, because they cant just leave Halo as is and expand on the things that need quality of life changes.
@@giancarloamaya1774 tbf most people that have played infinite agree that the base gameplay is good it was just everything else surrounding that. When it came to the weapons the biggest point of criticism was that too many guns felt like they filled super niche roles, and that the 3 base guns (AR, SK, and Br) were just so good that you kinda didn’t need to bother with most other guns which is true for the most part. That and the PP losing its emo to vehicles. No one except super sandbox nerds really cares about guns sharing roles or basically being the same weapon but jus ones a unsc version, and the other is a covenant or promethean gun. I mean there were a handful of weapons during the bungie days that did the same thing except the functioned slightly differently. But like you can’t sit here and tell me that guns like the beam rifle and sniper or smg and AR, or carbine and be had these gigantic differences that really shook things up.
Big problem is that I just don't care anymore, they could fix all of this tomorrow and it wouldn't mean a thing. I wanted to no life this game, to be a total completionist and get all the achievements and what not, but now to this day Infinite is the only halo game I haven't 100% and that includes MCC. Such a massive letdown. 343/completely gutted. the community for this game has been no help either, every youtuber praising it has helped dig the grave. The worst part is that aiming still feels weird so I don't even like playing PVE stuff. Anyway, good video
Most UA-camrs have started glazing 343 real hard after the last round of updates. Happy to see somebody still comitted to holding them accountable. The game, at its core, is just extremely bad. Clunky gameplay, bad audio, the removal of classic red vs blue design, horrible melee, hitscan, UI, DREADFUL controller aim and more... It's all just so odd compared to Bungie titles. They came close with the design but man... Can we just have our old game back?
i think you might just suck at the game ngl
I dont know what you mean by clunky gameplay, i was playing the bungie halos and i got so used to it i forgot to sprint in halo infinite so i was doing all my movement like it was halo 3 and it felt the same. The game doesnt feel clunky in its movement at all in fact if you want an example of clunky movement look at reach. That was super clunky w the sprint equiptment and the evade. I dont see what you mean
Also you guys glaze bungie. No one ever mentions how broken halo 1 and 2 are and their rushed dev cycles. They didnt listen to pc fans and pc fans only got the pc port of any game passed halo 2 w the master chief collection.
343 isnt perfect but neither was bungie. Halo infinite is a good return to the roots vs halo 4 and 5. I feel like halo infinite is 343s halo 2. A good game thats held together by paper clips and is what they experimented the most in sandbox wise. You have to also remember 343 isnt in the same position as bungie bungie was independent and worked with microsoft for the release platform only. Bungie sold the liscensing for halo to microsoft but it couldve been for mac if they kept their original launch platform partnership in mind.
Halo infinite is fun, ive had tons of fun playing it but its obvious its not a finished and polished game.
But im optimistic in that 343 is learning. Theyve begun a new title development cycle and they are almost certainly gonna do better now there isnt a pandemic and its economic fallout causing them to interupt their development. Also they fired all the shitty higher ups. This update isnt the end game its just the beggininng.
@@EnCounterCultureMedia 343i has had the IP longer than Bungie and has not made a single good game yet and this is their 3rd entry. Despite all the problems of Halo 1 and 2s dev cycle both delivered way more postives than negatives, something 343i has not done which is why all their games have more negative than positives, they do have positives yeah but again not enough to give them a pass.
Anytime Bungie was in the wrong, people were more than happy to call it out but its never to the point where it'll ruin the franchise like 343i has done and has perfectly shown in their interviews which is them lying and being unable to deliver content that the older games had at launch so people lost trust in 343i and even said Halo Infinite will be their last chance, which is why 343i nowadays is just going downhill and i doubt will be able to deliver anything close to what Halo should be.
During DOOM 2016 all of ID Software at that point was a completely new team compared to the old, yet they were completely able to capture and understand what made DOOM so popular and that's why that same team is still successful because despite being a new team, they researched, understood and more importantly paid a deep respect to the older games and strived to keep following in that direction with a modern touch.
This is what Halo should've been starting at Halo 4, a new team that's willing to understand and pay respects to what came before it while striving to make sure it's as polished and perfected as they can. Yet, that's obviously very far from what we got in the end.
@smugplush halo infinite is a great game. Halo 2 was one of my favourites and that thing is about to burst open any time soon ifykwim seriously though halo 2 is fucked. But halo 2 is great. Halo infinite is fucked but halo infinite is great. Met some great friends and been making good memories. Forge buggy as it is is insane. You can dislike it but it doesnt change the fact lots of ppl like it now
I clicked on this video thinking "lol look at this clown" but you actually made good, just, and correct arguments. I actually really liked the campaign despite its short-comings (like having only 1 biome pretty much). For the multiplayer aspect of the game, I usually just end up playing custom games, and, now that you bring up Halo Infinite feeling like a lonely game, I think that's subconsciously why I tend to play custom games (that and no SBMM ofc :D). It's still fun to play with friends but it's much harder to make new ones than say on MCC
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Such is the ultimate reason why I stopped playing this game, customization was my favorite part about halo, making an awesome set of armor to show off and play with in custom games and socieals. But even then the gameplay is just too hard, like the game is way too competitive and you can really ask anyone that have played previous halo games and they will agree its HARDER
Oh and everything in the game looks too watery, the plasma, fire, and affects
Infinite is just OK as a game, but as a Halo game it's just not for me. I agree with the point about vehicles, maybe I really do just suck, but they just feel terrible to use compared to earlier games, combined with the fact there's a hundred ways to destroy them now. I remember in previous Halo games, Reach or Halo 3 for example, a team on BTB could destroy just about any vehicle if they just focus fire on whatever the enemy is driving. There had already been a good number of ways to take down vehicles in the older games, but now I feel like the weapon sandbox has become a little oversaturated in Infinite (Why integrate a weapon for the sole purpose of being able to EMP vehicles, and STILL include the Plasma Pistol and make it only EMP shields...?). Overall, in my opinion the game is a little too fast paced and sweaty to be enjoyable for ME at least. GREAT VID BTW
I know I might have some hot takes but I feel like H2 rocket launcher is terrible with killing banshees. Granted I’m playing LASO minus about half the required skulls.
@@kylerbryant3772 you might want to make sure it is actually counting the levels as completed on Legendary. I beat the game on LASO solo and it didn't count. It shows that the levels were beat on Legendary, however, it will show that the highest difficulty I've completed the level on is Normal when selecting a level to replay it.
@@katzlover321 it counted for me. Why say that?
@@kylerbryant3772 guess I'm just unlucky, been talking to support about since last December.
@@katzlover321 I don’t really mind if the game says I completed LASO or not. Just as long as I truly had the experience. Not really at LASO right now.
I love Halo Infinite but you have very good points about the physics, player collision, etc.
Physics is the big problem with infinite. It just feel strange sometime and awfull at close range fights.... I feel like I have bug all the time but it is just the game that is like that...
I play a lot of halo infinite and have over 9000 games played. I have a lot of friends who play as well. This video is on point, it states everything that is either missing wrong or different in this halo game compared to years past. We are missing key features and ingredients that made halo halo. They are finally getting their grip on things and it’s heading in the right direction. However there are a lot of things missing in this game such as social features pre game post game lobby veto system. Match composer (which is in the works). Def more community btb maps and squad maps. We have 70 multiplayer maps and 59 of them are 4v4 or 2v2..btb is only playlist with 0 forge maps. That needs to change. Great video!
"Finally" getting a grip on things? The game was supposed to be a day 1 release. ILL HAVE A PS6 BEFORE THIS GAME IS FINISHED.
@@user-sk6dh1kf2x cry more
I feel a heavy emphasis on the cosmetics situation. So many companies have taken advantage of the battle pass and item shop system to make a killing off of the only cool cosmetics in the games being paid. I'm trying my hardest to not sound like an old person griping about kids these days when comparing old game's cosmetic systems to the modern ones, but it's disgusting to see the differences. Online objectives felt worth engaging with so that you could get that cool weapon skin you envy, and join a lobby to show it off and test it out. Seeing a player with a hard to get skin was way more special than seeing a cosmetic set that was $19.99 two weeks ago in the item shop.
While I do genuinely enjoy playing Halo Infinite (When dsync and the SBMM isn't in the way of that)
I do agree with alot of these points. Halo infinite just doesn't compare to the mysterious and alien feel of Halo CE, or the ambitous action packed moments of Halo 2.
343 made promises they still haven't delivered and probably never will. They promised that split screen would come to the campaign and yet theres no sign of it coming soon. Again with them claiming that every cosmetic would be earned through only playing the game. Yet the color blue was charged for 5 bucks, and ive got to pay 20 bucks for a classic Halo CE skin
Everything about infinite is so lifeless, I don’t understand how they came so close to making a good halo game for once but completely fucked it up, it’s like they pulled out halo infinite from a parallel universe where it was a competitive mobile game. I can’t remember a single thing about the campaign it’s so damn boring, I legitimately think halo 5 is a better game than infinite.
Yeah, this game just straight up felt hollow and devoid of any type of the love that OG Bungie had for the series. I've played through Halo 1, 2 & 3 campaigns multiple times while 4, 5 & Infinite I could only get through one time before stopping entirely.
I put 300+ hours into Infinite before I finally accepted how shallow it is and gave up. No skill issue here, I'm well above average and have played Halo since CE's release. However, the matchmaking algorithm makes sure you are constantly hampered with opponents of your skill, and teammates that are literally bronze or worse.
I come back every few months to see the new updates, but nothing is redeemable about this game. Generic zoomershooter designed to sell skins and nothing more.
Also, to the Infinite enjoyers that are buttmad that someone dares be honest about the misguided 343 obsession: lol cry more.
The ice bath the youtube halo infinite community deserves and needs.
343 is doing a really good job replying to the feedback of the community, you can’t say that from launch to now that the game hasn’t improved drastically, as far as the cosmetics go, obviously it’s a cash grab, it’s not uncommon in 2023, but to be fair they’re putting that money to good use.
i literally have to pay the shop for a different armor color like bruh...
Then don't?@@champcee7
They drip feed content way too slow like I’d hope after 2.5 yrs they’d have the game where it should have been at launch tf lol they just have are expectations so low that we give them huge credit for doing the bare minimum lol and it’s all cuz we love halo and are desperate to relive our child hoods again thru a fresh new halo game and this is wat where stuck with and they know it and take advantage of that big time
Look how easy it is to butter you up...
@@champcee7 lol there’s plenty of skins that are free and came in different colors
Its tough that this game didn't live up to expectations, I played the free multiplayer that dropped in November 2021 and I can't say anything has changed from that beta, which itself was just a way to grab players since this was when Battlefield 2042 flopped. This game and Halo Wars 2 are really just the same thing, an attempt to nostalgia bait while trying to force that new microsoft touch. The UI changes are what stick out to me, instead of the mid 00s style menus of Halo Wars 1 where its all rounded, you get this refined almost soul less look. What sucks about this all is the fact that like with Cyberpunk and BF2042, games which flopped and "TOTALLY IMPROVED" you have shill channels out there like every day posting "THEY FIXED IT" when the game gets a 80 gb update that allows you to sit down. Hopefully more people stop drinking the kool aid
okay but cyberpunk is fixed?
You’re completely right in all your points. The game has gotten a little better but improving on a giant steaming pile of 💩 does not make it suddenly turn to gold. It’s still a piece of 💩
I wouldnt say it has gotten better, they have simply given an illusion it has gotten better.
Fax even 5 is better
459 dislikes yet everything you said in this video is completely true
I feel like vomiting with Halo Infinite, it takes me 30 minutes or more to find a multiplayer match, the campaign was worse than Halo 5 and the game is EXTREMELY full of bugs, and there are still stupid people who defend this filth, that's an insult for halo
Man really harsh. Most people like the gameplay.
He made valid points
@@BLARG0w0 doesn’t change the fact that most people like the gameplay. I’m pissed that we don’t have any new campaign. That is what I mostly play.
@@kylerbryant3772 I play the game all the time don’t get it twisted
Plus people are forging new campaigns
Halo infinite’s story really wasn’t going anywhere clearly where people could follow
Rumors speculated that 343 is tryna just reboot halo all together again
Keeping halo infinite as a f2p alternate while working on a paid experience
Kinda how war zone an modern warfare coexist together
Genuinely don’t think infinite is going anywhere as it’s just a high res high poly version of eldewrito with now better forge
@@kylerbryant3772actually most people don’t like the gameplay, you are in the minority here.
@@ForFearItselfthe gameplay is crisp and creamy and nice, it is just a bit slow as compared to shooters of today.
I hate that they are adding new weapons that were not in previous games. They said the reason for not having the missing weapons was because they wanted to reduce the sandbox and have only one weapon per weapon type, yet here they go again adding another weapon that already has multiple weapons for that weapon type.
Even though the other weapons had the same role/type as the weapons that were included in the game, some were preferred over the others of the same type.
Couldn’t have said it any better. Really appreciate how well put together this video was. You hit the nail on the head for everything.
Thanks
People that still play halo infinite, if you go and play other games, you will realise how awful halo infinite is. I promise.
Free to play was a mistake. If the next Halo game is to be good, free to play must be abandoned.
bro how do i fix the forced potato graphics that campaign is doing to me for some reason
I would try Infinite more if i wasn't constantly lagging and rubberbanding.
YES THANK YOU SO MUCH, you have addressed the many issues I have had with this game that almost no one else has addressed.
It was driving me crazy how everyone is so in love with Infinite when in almost every aspect it's inferior to the older titles. I was waiting for that one big update that brings us weapons, vehicles, new features, or just update the UI, but all we get are cosmetics and news that there are no more full seasons.
Battlepass and free to play dont belong in Halo. Almost every issue this game has can be traced back, at least in part to its decision to be free to play. Battlepass is an overused, terrible progression system that is simply a rebrand of a traditional linear progression systems games have had, just with more monetization. Combine this with the only real progression being challenges, i have no real want to play it when the challenges are completed.
The reach credit system was just a better system that kept people coming back. Hell, the credit system in Halo 5 kept people coming back even if you were just using them to purchase lootboxes. At least you could actually earn enough to by the lootboxes by just playing the game.
You're right, they can add all the weapons and armor and vehicles they want, they're still not giving fans what we've been asking for. It's frustrating.
The issue with Halo Infinite is relatively simple, it doesn't have that feel like the older games do. But given that the 343 that created it was corporate at its finest. I'm not surprised. The 3 in my head I'm sure are doing what they can however given this wasn't a halo game they made. I doubt they could attempt to redo it. This may be why they are trying to develop a new one that is more closely tied with the older games in terms of what gave it the Halo feel, from balancing, to sounds while possibly being fresh so perhaps a mixture of older sounds being a bit more beefer however you still hear the older sounds. Up close or at a distance.
Still very concerned though since we don't know much when it comes to who these 3 necessarily are.
Aside from that only thing I have to say is the 343 that made Halo Infinite was essentially a poor corporate leadership structure that did not care and only showed "Care" in front of a camera.
Prime examples: The Hot Dog talking about "Halo Lore" meanwhile didn't mention the fact that the damage he did decanonized the entire existence of the franchise. Which another video went deep into.
Or when Bonnie looked away from the camera and saying something around the line of "were sorry about that."
It’s fun when you had a full team of randos in discord all talking and having a good time, but other than that, it’s a pretty barren experience
For me ignoring the anti-consumer practices...its definitely the lack of weight and "realness" to...Anything. The combination of speedy movement, weightless vehicles and sounds that have zero punch makes everything seem hollow and fake.. The way the vehicles turn red and explode, and the way the sparks and banshee smoke are just superfast 2D sprites. The way the chopper glides up on ramps and how the warthog does the same on bumps.
Halo Infinite feels like everything is made of paper.
It's hard to convey in video, but this is accurate.
this needs way more views
Nah, Halo is in a great place.
Stop being a negative Nancy
He’s being critical of a game rather than give it browny points for something it did over a year and a half late
@@chosenrandomly1483sad how the gaming industry got away with giving less content because people like the op think just getting stuff that should’ve been there at launch is a good thing. Fans settle for less because “at least we got it now”, I won’t be surprised if the next halo game launches barebones as well.
The effects look rubbish. Everything is like splashes of paint but it doesn't even linger, it just disappears
I’ll disagree on the gameplay, it’s the most refined and halo like it’s ever been. Where the game falls apart is content. No duel wield weapons, no multi team matches, no new vehicles, no new weapons and the campaign felt only a quarter finished. They had the opportunity to built an entire halo ring and all its ecosystems, but instead gave us a fraction of it that’s 90% empty.
Nah, it’s the shitty physics that fuck with me.
don't forget that the sandbox itself is terrible.
I remember during the time 343 was doing beta tests for this game, it was clear to me that this game was super shallow and generic, and I knew for sure that the game would die and be irrelevant within three to four months post-launch. I argued with delusional fanboys in comment sections that were high on the hype for this game who thought that Infinite would surpass Halo 3 in terms of popularity and staying power. I was actually shocked at how bad the final game was, and how little they changed from the beta tests, and no surprise to me the game died in less than two months. Just look at how pathetic the viewership numbers for this game are on UA-cam and Twitch. If people like this dumpster fire of a game, more power to them. Doesn't change the fact it's the worst Halo game, and just smells like a game that was designed by a committee in a boardroom.
Every Halo game made by 343 has had some redeeming qualities to it, something new they brought to the table. In Halo 4 they attempted to tell a more personal story between the Master Chief and Cortana, and shed more information on the Forerunners. It was a bold move and they tried to get the franchise moving right out the gate with it.
In Halo 5 in contrast to the atrocious campaign it had excellent multiplayer, especially in Warzone and even more so in Forge and Custom Games.
Halo Infinite doesn't really have that. It has an emotionless "campaign," cookie-cutter multiplayer, customization locked to your wallet, and a battle pass. There is nothing that sets it apart from other First Person Shooters on the market. It's soulless. Tasteless. Bland. There's no substance to it. Even if it was horrible at least Halo 5 was worth talking about. We criticized it to hell and back but we still talked about it. With Infinite there's just... nothing.
There’s no fucking soul in this game whatsoever.
You hit the nail on the head in every point you made, it’s not even about the “oh you’re just a Bungie fanboy” stigma, it’s literally the fact that the games back then were so much more Iconic, memorable, fun and moving. Even the fucking MUSIC from the original trilogy + ODST, Reach, and Legends SLAPPED like crazy.
Rip Halo
They're basically doing Halo 5 again. Once I realized they never learned and are doing the same thing, I stopped playing day 1.
7:37 343 developer ske7ch confirmed very recently on reddit that the match composer from Halo MCC is in active development and is coming to Infinite.
🎉🔥💯🙀
The ironic part was that the match composer was going to be implimented into Halo Infinite originally, but it was scrapped in 2021 because the Forerunners claimed that "it's not fun" and they want "real social playlists" (Which turned into the game being a collection of only social playlists, with minimal to no ranked options).
All the more reason why there shouldn't have ever listened to the community over the developers.
@@anonymous7564 and where's your source for this?
Whats funny is that we should be hearing about a new Halo coming either in 2024 or 2025, as it took 3 years of development for previous Halos to launch. And these were full titles with everything included with extra on top. Yet ... going to be 3 years of Infinite and no word, blog, vblog, anything on a Beta to call out the next entry. Again, 343i incompetency is showing and firing those "troubled" staff has fixed little in terms of trajectory.
If its going to take another 6 years from Infinite's release to get a new Halo, this franchise is just completely dead in the water and no one should support another Halo product ever again. It is so sad how one of the biggest video game franchises ever has died so tragically and so fast.
We're not going to be seeing a new Halo game for a VERY long time, they might as well rebrand Halo Infinite as "Halo The Game" because that's how long it's going to be
Excellent video that showcases so many unforgivable flaws that I had not even fully realized. The franchise and the fans deserve better.
Your "Gameplay" takes are valid, simple to fix and adjust (But they won't I know)
Your "Customization" is 50/50 as I can agree, some are just nit picks about the intro screen (who cares?) or spartans chatting, just mute that in settings
Your "Sounds" I don't really care personally, you just holding onto nostalgia
Your "User Interface" yeah I'm not a big fan but I like how they put something new into it here and there
Your "Visuals" is accurate, a turn off is the fire for everything, the fire when something about to explore or even the fire helmet vfx, lighting is a W but still needs overall improvement
Your "Live Service" is spot on but again it's free to play so I can understand them selling cosmetics, just wish it was just armor and not armor coatings
Your "Story" is about right, better than 5 but still like "just there" to be a campaign
You forgot to talk more directly about the horrible new guns that have absolutely no relative Halo personality, with very little desire to use them but you're forced to anyway. Can't just have the original Halo weapons, they _HAD_ to go and make a bunch of weird ass guns.
We shouldn’t have to wait 3+ years for it to be how it should have been at launch. 343 just bad at their job plain and simple. Halo 5 and Infinite making halo 4 look pretty damn good
While i do respect your opinions it still has it's moments, and with firefight out it's a significantly less stressful experience for you to just sit down and enjoy fighting the banished.
Hmm ... imagine ... an online PvE experience with friends or randos ... oh wait Halo 3 did that first in the franchise ... 16 years ago. So congrats 343i, you reinvented the wheel.
Wow I clicked on this expecting it to just be nonsensical hate but wow I agreed with absolutely every point. Great work man! Plus I really enjoy the nostalgic machinima type feel
Well, although I almost completely agree with your points on customization, I respectfully disagree with most of your other points. I want to talk about the points you made about movement.
The gameplay, although fast, isn’t COD levels of fast or anything like that. It’s in this sweet spot where you get the depth of advanced movements, while still reserving the strategic gunfights of Halo, due to the still low TTK.
The movement isn’t really the focal point of the gameplay, it’s just another tool. With sprinting making easier map traversal, sliding allowing for a good exit out of sprinting, a good entrance into a gunfight, and the beginning of movement combo. Clambering, although slow, is there for convenience sake. It should be noted that you should not be sprinting all the time as you said. If you watch competitive tournaments, you can see that pros keep advanced movement to a minimum, only using it to cross team controlled parts of the map. Sprinting adds a short but crucial delay to firing your weapon when you try to. It’s similar to Halo Reach’s sprinting, but less noticeable, and more interesting.
Also, the lack of slowly increasing velocity is is really just up to personal preference, well, everything is but especially the new way walking works. It’s to increase the pace of gameplay, and it does an extremely effective job at that. The tracking is harder, which personally, I think is better. It means that even if you’re the one who was attacked first, better movement and better aim will win you the gunfight, without needing cover. I know this is true for the other games but this is exaggerated in Infinite, and to be frank, it feels really good to be shot twice with a BR first and still win the engagement by using superior movement and aim. The new velocity system just heightens the skill ceiling, which is something that can be respected. More difficult tracking just means that you need to improve your aim (that was not directed at you specifically), which improvement is something to strive for in any hobby!
Modern game developers have lost all sense of passion towards their projects and only focus on the monetary value they could push onto the player. 343I Said they planned for Halo Infinite to be the main Halo game for the next 10 years. But there isn't any incentive to actually play the game unless you buy a battle pass that will give you rewards for your gameplay time. Yes occasionally the will run a free battle pass but they're usually filled with over the top colorful items or just straight up holiday themed armor pieces. I remember when videos were just being released on Halo Infinite. 343I bragging that this Halo will have the most customization options then any other Halo. Yet you cant individually color your armor pieces etc. The only customization in this game is PAID customization. I mean look at what they've done with the game over the past 2-3 years, one new gun. :D I mean if they put their efforts into actually bringing back the staple items from previous games then people would start to change their opinion. But until then 343I just focuses on taking money from their players with the LEAST amount of effort.
I pretty much agree with 90% of this. Infinite is not the game we deserved.
Halo Infinites insane redemption arc though lmao
I haven't play halo my whole life, but I started playing five years ago, ive played through each campaign on legangary multiple times. You say thins like monetized customization is the only thing in the game, but you have to remember many of the people who gave us false promises were fired or quit, after that we got the winter update, that was free and then two operations later. It still may be a battle pass, but at least they gave us free items. They also brought in husky raid, which people have been wanting for years, and other modes. Halo infinite is going through another rough patch, if you sticked around the last three years why not wait a little in bit longer, the game may be not great now, but the new 343 staff making it better. But to round it out you do make very good, points you id miss grenades, it seems they have randomized damage.
I don't even care about Halo anymore tbh. This game killed my love for it.
Nice to see someone else calling out the story.
For me it's the campaign, I've always loved the Halo games for their campaign and Halo Infinite's was a let down. Looking back at CE to 3 mission locations were great and there was a good variety especially in Halo 2. Hopefully the next Halo game will do better.
Lol because chief wasn’t an absolute robot and actually sounded like a human in infinite?
Lmao if you think halo CE compares to infinites campaign then give me some of whatever you are smoking
@@Nicolos117 i mean it does compare we actually see his human side come out for the first time in the games. And you are 100% blinded by nostalgia if you think halo ce has a better campaign then infinite does.
I've been playing Halo since I was 10 (Halo: CE).
I'm now 32.
I flaked out in the midst of Halo 4.
With this 9 1/2 mins, thanks... you've saved me (the much expected) trouble of trying.
No problem 😂
Very interesting video well done !
more people should watch this and they will understand all the Halo Infinite problems
Infinite's sound is plagued by the same problem that most movies and games have had since the popularity of Christopher Nolan movies. Every sound has to be heavily normalized while having completely blown out bass.
You managed to isolate and explain every small things that put together make this game awful 👍
I really don't know how you came to release this video without rewatching or tweaking it. How can you complain about the movement and speed of things? How do you expect any game to evolve and improve, speed runs to improve and many other aspects, if the game remains the same as it was over a decade ago? The physics is one of the most loved things in this game. The maps and community since forge have been an absolute beauty, bringing forward some of the best map designs seen in years. Firefight is as awesome as it could ever be, gameplay is slick and smooth, the weapons are both unique and nostalgic and getting kills and hitmarkers feels slick. I never understood sound effects and why people have a gripe for them, i don't see the issue in changing it. They still do the same thing they just sound different. Customization tho bland and yes the UI does still have some issues but realistically no one gripes about that much anymore because it is no where near the worst in gaming. I am not sure where you get this pov, but the visuals are beautiful. Enemy AI is intelligent and very challenging on hire difficulty, especially brutes. Viewing this video, you seem to simply nitpick and choose certain things to complain about when they've already been fixed. The campaign was amazing, not just opinion but widelt considered as one of the best since the og trilogy by the community. You complain about spongy bosses yet you have bosses like Tarturus from Halo 2 who soaked everything like nothing. When it comes to not understanding the story, i honestly just believe you didn't pay attention since it's pretty easy to follow. Overall I really don't get where most of your arguments come from because tho yes some of them were relevant, they've since been fixed and yet you still nitpick them as if they are still existing issues. Halo Infinite isn't perfect yet, but 343 has vastly improved the game and recent steam charts and community feedback would definitely prove that. Big time Halo channels like MintBlitz and HaloFollowers and Act Man have all unanimously agreed that Halo Infinite is making leaps of improvement and 343 has really amped up their game since the leadership change. I advise to do more reasearch, and maybe add more evidence to some of your points to back them up as most of this vid is senseless complaining with no real backbone evidence
I literally add visual evidence of every single thing I mentioned in the video, alongside most of the footage being from the latest season
Halo Infinite is ass, live service manipulative fake currency visually appalling min max modern shooter twitchy aim assist underproduced ass
Infinite Firefight is boring, it plays like a looter shooter, you just kill without thought
i agree with the monetizations part, but everything else in this video is a joke, I wouldn't be surprised if people make a meme using this bro. Also your comments points out exactly what I think, most points of halo infinite are indeed good, gameplay is good, art style and graphics, sound design and sound track, forge and all that stuff is also really good, the stuff people points out are the dumbest picks ever, like hating a game because the gun sounds and effects are "bad" or stuff like that. Also its fair to say that considering the current fps games landscape, halo infinite is peak compared to most cod releases, with cold war being the only good one, and Battlefield 2042. And to finish this comment, no one ever points out the good points of halo infinite, like the sound track, it's genuinely good while also having that halo vibe, same thing to the artstyle of the game, and that is the thing that anoys me the most, people where complaining for YEARS because elites, jackals, grunts and most part of the unsc didn't looked like they where in the halo universe, and now that it actually looks like it is NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT, like did you guys payed attention to the details of the enemies, armors and guns? It's genuinely so good
You are 💯 correct on this. Halo now is just a glorified Fortnite.
I don't mind the vehicles having slightly different sounds, but I cannot stand the sound effect of the plasma turrets on the Banshee and Ghost in Infinite. They don't sound like powerful weapons. They sound like someone stepping on a pile of coins.
What is with all these people that are below 500 subscribers having these terrible hot takes.
I know smh
The Skewer is one of my biggest points of contest against infinite. People say the Spartan Laser was broken and the Skewer is balanced which is ridiculous. It's a one hit kill that can essentially not be avoided and doesn't have a range limitation. The Spartan Laser had to charge and was range limited as well as needing to hit enough of the laser on the target to actually get the kill.
I’ve tried to play infinite multiple times and I just lose interest or get annoyed with the physics or the look of the game within like a day or two of redownloading it and stop. The game just feels like a temu knockoff of the older games and it feels as if everything in the world is made out of shiny plastic.
I agree, these are all issues that still need to be addressed. It's sad how bare-bones Halo Infinite became during its development cycle after all the teams came and went, but with this last season, it seems the studio is finally working to make things better with each progressive update. I'm hopeful for the future, but I will remain wary. They did drop the ball with the Winter event.
10 years to finish a game, I just can't wait.
@@justiceforjoggers2897seriously 343 doing a 343 😂
One of the most under talked about issues with this game imo is the panning camera at the start of every single match.
Putting aside the fact it only exists to show off player armour to incentivise shop purchases (which is ironic because Halo Reach's pre game lobby allowed you to view every single players armour/stats in seconds which incentivised players to actually earn their gear). It wastes SO MUCH TIME.
Depending on the game mode, that intro sequence can take up to 20 seconds long just to get through. Meaning after putting any decent amount of playtime into the game, you will inevitable spend hours upon hours just watching those intro sequences.
Why can't we just start the game by jumping straight into the gameplay like in the original games.
coming from someone who really enjoys this game, this is a very solid review with valid criticisms. great editing too
the worse thing about halo infinite is that it fails to be anything because its too focused about coming off as digestible and inoffensive as possible at least halo 4 and 5 had some character and integrity to some extent infinite is just a shell of nothing everything about it is so forgettable
i just got halo mcc never played a halo game good choice?
Great vid, you portrayed and explained the shortcomings very well. Overall nicely structured and very down to earth, not offensive or hostile. Great job!
I do not understand how no one apart from you sees these things. Like Mint Blitz and many other major creators are insanely confident about 343's output and nowadays even claim that the game has become 'awesome'. To me it feels like these poor souls are just tired of shouting at 343 without beeing heard and now they are pretending that everything is fine. I can hardly imagine that any experienced gamer thinks that this game is of good quality. It lacks so much.
Also no clue why everyone is so happy about firefight. I mean sure it's fun, but it's kinda cheap. It's very thrown together. It only reuses already existing elements from the campaign and multiplayer, there is no distinct content to it. Hell even the individual waves have no distinctness to them, all the waves are more or less the same thrown together bunch of all the existant enemy types. Major downgrade from Reach. The ai is also a major downgrade, I feel like even the 2001 Halo CE ai was better than these hyperadvanced braindead aliens. The difficulty only scales through enemy health and number, the 2 laziest ways to make difficulty. The skulls which are activated sometimes, are litterally some of the most generic ones in the entire franchise, wouldn't want a black eye, fog, blind, assassins, foreign, so angry or anything like that, that would be far to wild and exciting!
Btw, even if the wreckages wouldn't despawn so quickly, I doubt you would be able to use them as cover. Dead bodies and dead vehicles don't seem to be synced across the lobby, to me at least. Countless times I was shot through a wreckage or a guy t-bagged like 5 m off my body. They didn't care to sync dead things properly.
Firefight feels like someone modded multiplayer to spawn bots, it doesn't feel like Firefight at all, 2 years to get it as well lol
I had to mention things respawning stupidly fast because I recently was playing Halo Reach and a vehicle blew up in a spectacular fashion, and the only reason I survived was because it landed on its side and I could hide behind it, a wonderful bit of dynamism within the sandbox, in Infinite it'd have respawned instantly or as you said, not synced at all, they did recently put out a network test that looks promising, but like.. Too little too late as usual
totally
That music during the outro… took me back 😭
I think I actually played a game with you in Reach on MCC. I was the tool that read your message the wrong way around. Ggs and nice video
lets ad another point to this . Shit ping anywhere that is not USA i litrelly play with 350 ping in ranked from asia. Talk about competitive.
I agree with almost everything. To me the game just doesn’t look good, sound good, or feel good. Though I’d be careful. For some reason this game has dick-riders and they get angery when you criticize it
why didn't u say the things u wrote in ur script lil bro
(check subtitles)
Thanks, I totally forgot to even update the subtitles at all haha, fixed it (i also cut a lot of stuff I thought was too nitpicky even if I still would like to mention more things)
Despite the title making me think this was just going to be yet another angry clickbait rant about how bad Infinite's launch was 2 years after release, I pretty much agree with everything said in this video. Glad you brought up vehicles being useless with the amount of anti-vehicle weaponry in the game, literally my biggest pet peeve yet a lot of people think we need even more??? Crazy.
Another massive issue that just makes me not want to play at all. SBMM. Horrendous, most unfriendly system I've seen. You're destined to lose 50-60% of the time. You're not allowed to have fun in matchmaking.
Valid arguments all.
Forge is everything i ever wanted 😅
Which was the target goal of 343. The funniest part is it's not everything "the community" wanted, simply because the community never wanted anything other than to scapegoat and change requirements for a game to hit in order for them to feel less insecure about playing a video game.
Honestly this game still feels unfinished
I think even just adding to the game how lobbies where before would improve the multiplayer experience vastly.
Still haven't played this game again since June 2022, based on what I see, it's the same as before just with more content finally and less desync than before. As a "Halo game" goes, it's soulless in it's gameplay and the weapon balance issues keep changing, everything becomes either too weak or too powerful, no in between.
As a generic game goes, it's just an average game.
Compared to Halo 4 or Halo 5 it seems like a big upgrade of a game, but compared to Halo 2 or Halo 3, it's just meh. It's barely better than Halo Reach and all the flaws in that game.
I'll just wait till the next Halo game and hope they actually make a Halo game with no sprint and stupid gimmicks that don't help the game.
The game has been getting better and better, to say its awful is an over reaction, and it just hurts the argument. While improvments can be made it's really fun right now, and I think we should be happy they are actually trying to improve it still.
Better is still not ok for Halo, this series deserves so much better than ok, Halo was a titan so far all 343 have done is reduce to a meme of itself
@@lgd6619 and it's getting better. Better is good enough. Because its continuing to get better. The people they rehired from old halo seem to be making good changes.
@@jackman5840 Then maybe theres hope for the next Halo, Infinite is never going to be regarded as a great Halo and nor does it deserve to be that window has long since passed, Infinite is the closest 343 have gotten to a decent Halo and its still subpar and not something you spend your workday itching to get back to or excited over
@@lgd6619 I dont hate that opinion. The campaign is still miserable either way.
@@jackman5840 It was the campaign that broke me tbh, 117 and his story are to me what Tony Stark is to marvel fans or Batman to DC fans so yeah maybe my standards are sky high, but so were Halos once
I want Halo to be successful but jeez it’s hard to support 343
The wapon pool sucks, no player collision sucks, the predatory microtransactions somehow got WORSE. I gave up on 343.
the original trilogy sure had a lot of the classic “meta weapon” users but at the very last it was still halo, we are stuck in a era where if your game doesn’t have advanced slide/jump/running movement then it will be considered “trash”, i understand why doom games are fast paced, i understand why ultrakill was fast paced, and i totally understand why arcade games mostly were fast paced, but honestly, if only they kept halo 5 guardians movement here on infinite, it would’ve been resolved and nobody would be arguing over this
i also think you deserve more attention, positive attention out of all this
i respect people like mint blitz or hiddenxperia and any other youtuber out there talking good things of the game, but we always fall back and never think about that part of the player base in every community who really doesn’t care of these dumb movement mechanics, meta weapons or insane amount of “gaming propaganda”, i admit im not the best player in fps games, i admit im bad with keeping up with fast movement, but you know? im proud of it, im proud of never loosing that essence these games have gave me, alongside anything that isn’t just halo
so, in defense of reachtea, screw the sweaty gamers, maybe you’re the ones with skill issues
So it's cod / combat master ?