I believe Honda said this is the last generation of pure ICE Type R/Si generation, which will most likely mean the death of the manual as well. Enjoy this generation before it's gone :(
the hybrids, 2.0T and the SI’s both made the same horsepower. The SI name isnt there unless you actually build the car. 200 horsepower 2025 civic hybrid, and the SI is also 200 horsepower
just got my 22 Civic Si, with 29k miles.. i wish it came with the full digital gauge cluster like they get everywhere else BUT the states, but it is what it is. still drives amazing
I may never forgive Honda for NPCing the Accord, but they cooked with this generation of Civic. I pray 12th gen is not going to be all hybrid CVTs. The Civic Si is definitely one of my favourite cars on the market at any price right now.
@@Jean-FrancoisHughes Right? They probably never drove an Si in their lives. This is probably the most capable Si they've ever made from a purely performance perspective (yes, even including the 8th gen)
I'd argue that the hatch is more practical. The bigger opening and higher ceiling in the back means you can hold larger items inside. I'm nitpicking, but I drove an Avalon for years that could barely fit a bicycle inside despite being enormous.
@@spunkushexactly, and estate cars too! (Aka Station Wagons) When I was young I knew someone with an old basic Mercedes station wagon and you could fit anything in that thing! They carpeted the whole back area and installed a metal gate with a door behind the front seats, kind of like a cop car, and the entire back of it was like a padded area for all their dogs or a great place to sleep. Their dogs LOVED that car, they had a damn football field to run around in and play with their toys
@@FerrariTeddy yah I like my 17' Impreza hatchback for its use. Fit my dog in the back and can haul as much as a Crosstrek. But I get the low center of gravity and light car benefits.
As someone with a lot of seat time in both hatch and sedan, the extra hatch size is not actually very usable to the point why I wonder why they even designed it the way it is. However, it does provide a lot more headroom for the back seats but that's about it.
@@James-t3cI’ve ragged on mine with a KTuner + TSP combo for almost 40k miles now (95% of the time in the most aggressive Map 3). Zero signs of issues with the clutch or powertrain but I’ll be the first to find out if that’s the case. Dealers haven’t mentioned a peep about it so far either. And by hard driving, I mean banging off the limiter pretty much each and every drive.
Yeah I’ve heard the rev hang is pretty bad that generation. Rev gang on the 2025 is non existent in the lower rpms but I have yet to test around redline since I have to break it in but it was noticeable in the ‘22+ only in the around redline
@@raymondamoroso2049I’ve owned a 2024 si since the beginning of this year and the rev hang is far better than the 10th gen model but you can definitely notice some still especially is higher rpm. When I go to high rpm and shift to another gear I do leave my foot on the clutch just a little longer so that way the revs drop and it’s a smooth transition
@@bcamchow yeah I’ve heard, supposedly form reviews, the ‘25 si has noticeably better rev hang then the ‘22 but it’s still present. I wouldn’t know yet, I have 100 miles on the dash 😭
That was a practiced Toph impression , though you need to work on the shifting! It was cool seeing you drive on my home turf (I’m a few miles away from the NTP in Dickson, TN, and I take my 2024 Elantra N there frequently). Nice job! Though, as someone else has already mentioned, for the same money (less than 30 grand), I’d pick the WRX.
It’s hard to shift this thing fast & smooth with the still existent rev hang. You can definitely shift it smoother but you’ve gotta accept the granny shift 🤣 No matter how I shifted the car I would’ve had people critiquing it, so whatever. haha
@@TopherDrives I think it’s just the fact that Topher is just very talented at shifting a manual transmission, and I always marvel at that when I watch his videos. I am not nearly that smooth when trying to shift quickly. I can shift pretty seamlessly, but I have to slow down my shifting to do so…especially on the 1-2 shift in the Elantra N. The engagement point is very close to the floor compared with cars I’ve had in the past, where the clutch didn’t engage until the pedal was almost all the way out.
@@ultraboost9400 That’s not the fault of the WRX. It’s a faster car that’s known more as a performance car. Insurance rates are more a function of your driving record, your age, and your credit profile. I pay about $120/mo for my Elantra N. But I’m in my 40s with no tickets or wrecks.
100% Agreed. At this point in time, price and with the available competition, this should have a 2.0 turbo. Maybe just with less boost and weaker turbo than a Type R
I absolutely love that Honda is still building a quality manual - sad it got dropped for the hatch, especially since most of the hatches in my area seemed to be manual :/. One thing I found when I drove the Si: the highway gearing seems to have it revving a bit higher than I’d like, wondering if it could be even better on gas if sixth was a little taller
awesome - was looking forward to a '25 update video. Front end and wheels are not as objectionable as I thought. Be thankful for overcast days - makes everything 'pop' with much better color and even lighting.
I'm still not convinced about the hatch. In fact, the CTR should have been a sedan. I think the sedan looks so much better and reminds me of the FD2 from 06-10(US FA5)
We definitely need the hatchback with 10 to 20 more horsepower. Ditch the sedan SI and just make the SI hatchback. Only I think this will make a lot of people happy and it wouldn’t be costly to change the horsepower increase wouldn’t be hard for Honda. Come on Honda. we love you give the people what we want.
i mean the shift lights and heated seats were on previous the canadian edition Si. So not really Type R per se but Americans are now getting what the Canadians got from the get go.
Oh, they put the heated seats back. I think they were actually still included with the Canadian version, but stripped in the US. Maybe supply chain issues. Save the manuals. Save the spare tires too. Not a fan of the repair kit, which has limits to what can be repaired. Some of us drive in areas with poor cell coverage and hours long waits for AAA. The aftermarket does make some spare kits. Seems Honda first ditched spares with the hybrids, as perhaps the battery pack ate that space. Now perhaps they all come off the line with space for a battery (if they are making it to a hybrid) and the spare went away. They did same in the CRV and Accord hybrids. Somehow, Toyota managed to keep the spare in the '25 Camry, even with AWD.
The vents they included on the front bumper look great & they should have matched them with the rear kinda like on some Toyota models. Also I miss the fog lights idc how bright Honda claims the headlights to be the Si deserves fog lights. I’m hoping an aftermarket company gives us a bumper that will include fog lights for the 11th gen Si. Other than that great updates for the 2025 model
@Honda really needs to crank up the horsepower and torque on this car. It's been far too long that the MK8 Golf GTI with the last manual transmission for its 2024MY at 243hp, the Jetta GLI with its secondary refresh now still at 228hp and the out going Forte GT with 201hp and 195lb-ft of tq with its manual transmission have been tearing Honda up. Yes, the Civic Si was never about horsepower wars like the S550/S650 gen Mustangs, Alpha platform 5th/6th gen Camaros and the LX platform Challenger and Charger brothers, but in all honesty, the Civic Si really needs to be pushing 230-240hp like the AP1 and AP2 S2000s used to be and give it at least 215-225lb-ft of tq to be the true second most powerful Civic in the lineup over the Civic Hybrid and over its competition now that the MK8.5 Golf GTI is only DCT for the 2025MY (and the 2026MY) as this will be the final gen Golf cars ever built including the MK8.5 Golf R too, the secondary refresh Jetta GLI, and the new Kia K4. Staying stagnant at 200hp and 192lb-ft of tq is not a good look for Honda themselves and the Civic Si community. I get it. You can modify it if you want more power, but why ruin the warranty when it should come heavily performed out of the assembly plant line with the warranty?
Not sure about the reliability on the 1.5T either but hey they continue to throw it in models including this (which will get beat with the high revving and shifting)
4:20 That 1.5t won’t last 250k trouble free miles like the older Si motors. Should’ve used a detuned 2.0t CTR motor instead, pumping out 250 HP. 6:00 New infotainment 12:00 Sport mode 21:30 Build quality
I have a white SI on order and it will arrive in October. I'm happy for the heated seats this year... but not so happy that Honda was still too cheap to offer as standard so many of the items that are on other, less expensive Civics as standard on the Civic Si. Like FOG LIGHTS? C'mon.. no fog lights on a sports car? Or power seats? Or dual zone climate?? How about a rear A/C vent? Or a rear phone charger? Or even wireless charging? All no.
Dude this has everything the 22-24 Canadian spec si has and less. Doesn’t even have heated wheel or heated back seats. Damn you guys got screwed in the states.
I can’t really hear the turbo! Is it like this on all newer turbo civics. I’m either getting the turbo SI or the won with the K24. Which one do you like better?
I'm so grateful they still offer a manual on the Si and Type R. I truly hope we get another 10+ years of manual Si and Type R.
I'm psyched too, but let's not put all our hope into that. I suspect the end of the stick shift is imminent.
Me too. I’m a row your own gears type of guy
I believe Honda said this is the last generation of pure ICE Type R/Si generation, which will most likely mean the death of the manual as well. Enjoy this generation before it's gone :(
@@louiszhang3050 I heard that too, we better believe it is.
the hybrids, 2.0T and the SI’s both made the same horsepower. The SI name isnt there unless you actually build the car. 200 horsepower 2025 civic hybrid, and the SI is also 200 horsepower
I do wish that the Si could have come in a hatchback
God damn how many ppl gonna say this ; 🤣 as if it will happen it wont lets be honest same for a civic coupe it just wont happen again
It does in Japan. It’s called the Civic RS over there.
It's called the Integra 😅
@@Azkerothliterally people forget about this all the time and it had heated seats when it came out
I test drove the 24 Civic Sport Touring Hatch yesterday, check it out
The civic brothers strike again
Uploading at the same time??
YOU CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS *shaking fist in air*
A bunch of civic advertisements
I'm beyond happy with my '23 Si. It's such a fun car to drive on the twisty backroads here in Tennessee.
Substitute Topher is always good to watch, similar to the actual Topher, the review style is very consistent. Very good TheTopher!
just got my 22 Civic Si, with 29k miles.. i wish it came with the full digital gauge cluster like they get everywhere else BUT the states, but it is what it is. still drives amazing
Whoever came up with that audible shift indicator has some explaining to do
That is annoying, you should be able to turn that off, you can in the Type R.
@@CarAddictUK
>UK
Hello saar please do the needfull saar
You can turn it off through the infotainment screen
@@TheTopherI am a big fan of
@@TheTopherI am a big fan
Have had mine for about a month now and I'm in love. Everything I wanted it to be and I enjoy driving it every day!
I may never forgive Honda for NPCing the Accord, but they cooked with this generation of Civic. I pray 12th gen is not going to be all hybrid CVTs. The Civic Si is definitely one of my favourite cars on the market at any price right now.
0:04 i LOVE this sound effects , so many memories
The Civic Si is sold in Japan as a hatchback, the “Civic RS”.
No LSD and less power in Japan's Civic RS. That RS trim is more Sport touring than Si.
The Civic Si is not sold at all in Europe
Hybrid or Type R that's all on the offer
Spell CIVIC backwards, you still get civic.
Love this car❤❤❤
That gray is the least puddy of the puddy colors when it's in the light. I do wish they offered more variety of paint options for the Si.
Honda seems to be the only manufacturer committed to an extremely practical, affordable, fun, manual daily driver
so true! people who would like to see the SI with much more power dont get the point of this car
@@Jean-FrancoisHughes yep. With more power comes less reliability, worse mpg and the inability to drive it hard on the street
@@Jean-FrancoisHughes Right? They probably never drove an Si in their lives. This is probably the most capable Si they've ever made from a purely performance perspective (yes, even including the 8th gen)
@@louiszhang3050oh you will get some disagreement from that but you are 100 percent correct. This new si is just about perfect.
Mazda and Toyota have good ones
I'd argue that the hatch is more practical. The bigger opening and higher ceiling in the back means you can hold larger items inside. I'm nitpicking, but I drove an Avalon for years that could barely fit a bicycle inside despite being enormous.
Oh yeah the hatch is great. I can lay completely flat in the back of an 11th gen hatch (with the seats down) at 5’11” 😭
Exactly, a tailgate is why small crossovers are taking over. We need more hatchbacks damnit.
@@spunkushexactly, and estate cars too! (Aka Station Wagons)
When I was young I knew someone with an old basic Mercedes station wagon and you could fit anything in that thing! They carpeted the whole back area and installed a metal gate with a door behind the front seats, kind of like a cop car, and the entire back of it was like a padded area for all their dogs or a great place to sleep. Their dogs LOVED that car, they had a damn football field to run around in and play with their toys
@@FerrariTeddy yah I like my 17' Impreza hatchback for its use. Fit my dog in the back and can haul as much as a Crosstrek. But I get the low center of gravity and light car benefits.
As someone with a lot of seat time in both hatch and sedan, the extra hatch size is not actually very usable to the point why I wonder why they even designed it the way it is. However, it does provide a lot more headroom for the back seats but that's about it.
Man, if this had 30 more HP I would be so happy
True, that's about what that car needs + about the same amount in torque.
very easy to due with literally just a ktuner basemap, but that can void warranty if you care about that
@@chaz9675I had TSP stage 1 and man that turned the car into a baby type-R. Not just the HP, but the powerband as well were amazing
@@chaz9675You’ll need the warranty. These 1.5’s are awful.
@@James-t3cI’ve ragged on mine with a KTuner + TSP combo for almost 40k miles now (95% of the time in the most aggressive Map 3). Zero signs of issues with the clutch or powertrain but I’ll be the first to find out if that’s the case.
Dealers haven’t mentioned a peep about it so far either.
And by hard driving, I mean banging off the limiter pretty much each and every drive.
Just got this car on Friday in black and I’ve been loving it 😍
How's the rev-hang? I have a '20 and it's the only year that has problems with disabling it with the KT😭
Yeah I’ve heard the rev hang is pretty bad that generation. Rev gang on the 2025 is non existent in the lower rpms but I have yet to test around redline since I have to break it in but it was noticeable in the ‘22+ only in the around redline
@@raymondamoroso2049I’ve owned a 2024 si since the beginning of this year and the rev hang is far better than the 10th gen model but you can definitely notice some still especially is higher rpm. When I go to high rpm and shift to another gear I do leave my foot on the clutch just a little longer so that way the revs drop and it’s a smooth transition
@@bcamchow yeah I’ve heard, supposedly form reviews, the ‘25 si has noticeably better rev hang then the ‘22 but it’s still present. I wouldn’t know yet, I have 100 miles on the dash 😭
@@hectorflores1274you get used to it ! It’s really not THAT bad but I can see how it may be annoying to some people. But congrats on your new car !
easter egg, the wheels have “Si” on them !
So they just brought the Canadian version over from past few years and called it updated?
Thanks for the great drive. Probably the best affordable daily driver for an enthusiast. Thanks again!
Isn't it nice when company’s listen to what people want?
They shouldn't have gotten rid of the heated seats in the first place?
they sell coupes?
@@67keyakaren68they stopped selling them :(
@@2015BLOXXER yup so a bunch of lame crossovers and 2 sedans. Sad
Still same weak clutch.
No coupes.
No increase in power
No heated seats
Still crappy 1.5
Honda has not listened.
I’m going to learn manual so I can purchase this car, can’t wait
Honda added rear air vents to the Accord. Now it’s time for the Civic.
That was a practiced Toph impression , though you need to work on the shifting!
It was cool seeing you drive on my home turf (I’m a few miles away from the NTP in Dickson, TN, and I take my 2024 Elantra N there frequently).
Nice job!
Though, as someone else has already mentioned, for the same money (less than 30 grand), I’d pick the WRX.
It’s hard to shift this thing fast & smooth with the still existent rev hang. You can definitely shift it smoother but you’ve gotta accept the granny shift 🤣
No matter how I shifted the car I would’ve had people critiquing it, so whatever. haha
@@TopherDrives I think it’s just the fact that Topher is just very talented at shifting a manual transmission, and I always marvel at that when I watch his videos.
I am not nearly that smooth when trying to shift quickly.
I can shift pretty seamlessly, but I have to slow down my shifting to do so…especially on the 1-2 shift in the Elantra N. The engagement point is very close to the floor compared with cars I’ve had in the past, where the clutch didn’t engage until the pedal was almost all the way out.
Insurance is 300 a month more for the WRX at least for me which was a deal breaker
@@ultraboost9400 That’s not the fault of the WRX.
It’s a faster car that’s known more as a performance car.
Insurance rates are more a function of your driving record, your age, and your credit profile.
I pay about $120/mo for my Elantra N. But I’m in my 40s with no tickets or wrecks.
@@ultraboost9400 Thats your problem. I pay $150 a month full coverage on my WRX
Love that color. Very classy and goes well with the interior.
the Si should come with the k20c4.
100% Agreed. At this point in time, price and with the available competition, this should have a 2.0 turbo. Maybe just with less boost and weaker turbo than a Type R
I agree. 1.5 is awful.
@@Aki_Lesbrinco yeah it's called the k20c4 lol,it was in the accord as well(2022-)
I absolutely love that Honda is still building a quality manual - sad it got dropped for the hatch, especially since most of the hatches in my area seemed to be manual :/.
One thing I found when I drove the Si: the highway gearing seems to have it revving a bit higher than I’d like, wondering if it could be even better on gas if sixth was a little taller
Great review
They should make a 2 door version again.
Having to look at the 10th gen coupes because I want a coupe SI lol
I love my ‘24. The only thing I wish I had from the ‘25 is the ability to remove the fake engine noise via the infotainment.
Can it be removed all together? Or just turned down to a lower volume?
@@ytj22you can unplug a thingy. Pretty simple, look it up!
I’ve been enjoying my ‘24 Integra 6MT. Fun cars are these!
awesome - was looking forward to a '25 update video. Front end and wheels are not as objectionable as I thought. Be thankful for overcast days - makes everything 'pop' with much better color and even lighting.
Live in Franklin it's such a nice area, just crazy how low performance the si is now compared to when they had the vtec.
same exact performance my guy💀 if anything the new si’s perform better, vtec is just way more fun, not actually more efficient
I'm still not convinced about the hatch. In fact, the CTR should have been a sedan. I think the sedan looks so much better and reminds me of the FD2 from 06-10(US FA5)
We definitely need the hatchback with 10 to 20 more horsepower. Ditch the sedan SI and just make the SI hatchback. Only I think this will make a lot of people happy and it wouldn’t be costly to change the horsepower increase wouldn’t be hard for Honda. Come on Honda. we love you give the people what we want.
i mean the shift lights and heated seats were on previous the canadian edition Si. So not really Type R per se but Americans are now getting what the Canadians got from the get go.
Love the cleaned up styling and the pricing!
Honda is just killing it with the 11th gen, do wish there was a manual option for the lower trims though.
Franklin, a gorgeous area!
I think the 8th gen was the best SI of all time. I love smashing on mine and hearing that vtec @ 8000rpm
i agree. i see 8th and 9th gens everywhere still. love the body style on the 8th gens
Loved mine. Had a base tune that let it rip to 8700rpms. It was incredible.
The primer clearcoat trend is beyond tired at this point.
Love watching the Revs stick when you let the clutch off 🙄
Ah yes, the classic Civic Si rev hang...it wouldn't be the same without it at this point!
A hondata tune and a new exhaust would be the cherry on top
I have the 2024 si and i love it just need a tune...
just realized this wasn't actually "TheTopher" you guys must be related. Even the way you articulate yourselves is eerily similar 😆
ALL models be making the same horsepower, 200HP, the hybrid Civic makes the same. Need an “ACTUAL” SI, and up up up the Type R’s performance
the type r is the new si the si is just a civic exl at this point
They should make a DCT option for the R and Si. It would sell a lot more. I don't mind a manual but would be nice to have it as an option
Heck yeah. Just in time for lunch
i feel like were going back in time...not even a 6500 rpm redline is criminal in a honda
Best new car for $30k imo, I don’t see what’s not to like
They should bring back the coupe. I love my 2007 civic fg2. Last good civic ever made.
I think there’s still a few things that the Integra has over the Si, like the hatch and some premium features.
Oh, they put the heated seats back. I think they were actually still included with the Canadian version, but stripped in the US. Maybe supply chain issues. Save the manuals. Save the spare tires too. Not a fan of the repair kit, which has limits to what can be repaired. Some of us drive in areas with poor cell coverage and hours long waits for AAA. The aftermarket does make some spare kits. Seems Honda first ditched spares with the hybrids, as perhaps the battery pack ate that space. Now perhaps they all come off the line with space for a battery (if they are making it to a hybrid) and the spare went away. They did same in the CRV and Accord hybrids. Somehow, Toyota managed to keep the spare in the '25 Camry, even with AWD.
Did Honda resolve the 1.5 liter turbo oil dilution issue??
The piped in sound sounds like a mixture between high timing and a light ping. Makes me feel like something is wrong.
No "Si" on the steering wheel is criminal
Bring back electron blue pearl
i wish the face was that nice gloss black, and im not entirely fond of the new wheels. But other than that, sharp car!
The vents they included on the front bumper look great & they should have matched them with the rear kinda like on some Toyota models. Also I miss the fog lights idc how bright Honda claims the headlights to be the Si deserves fog lights. I’m hoping an aftermarket company gives us a bumper that will include fog lights for the 11th gen Si. Other than that great updates for the 2025 model
Side not this is straight asmr.
Other topher does have a very similar cadence to regular topher
@Honda really needs to crank up the horsepower and torque on this car.
It's been far too long that the MK8 Golf GTI with the last manual transmission for its 2024MY at 243hp, the Jetta GLI with its secondary refresh now still at 228hp and the out going Forte GT with 201hp and 195lb-ft of tq with its manual transmission have been tearing Honda up.
Yes, the Civic Si was never about horsepower wars like the S550/S650 gen Mustangs, Alpha platform 5th/6th gen Camaros and the LX platform Challenger and Charger brothers, but in all honesty, the Civic Si really needs to be pushing 230-240hp like the AP1 and AP2 S2000s used to be and give it at least 215-225lb-ft of tq to be the true second most powerful Civic in the lineup over the Civic Hybrid and over its competition now that the MK8.5 Golf GTI is only DCT for the 2025MY (and the 2026MY) as this will be the final gen Golf cars ever built including the MK8.5 Golf R too, the secondary refresh Jetta GLI, and the new Kia K4.
Staying stagnant at 200hp and 192lb-ft of tq is not a good look for Honda themselves and the Civic Si community. I get it. You can modify it if you want more power, but why ruin the warranty when it should come heavily performed out of the assembly plant line with the warranty?
You’re right next to my house in Franklin! Right next to the big bridge
not a fan of the newer body but i do wish i had this interior on my 20’
I still wish we had this in the Philippines. 😢
This car needs more HP! We owned a 2006, with the same HP? Ridiculous!
True. But it isn't that different in weight. But I get it for today's standards. The current model si is slow in a straight line.
@@notsure3535 You are mean. I agree with you.
@@keithjackson4985 mean ?
@@notsure3535 It was a joke.
Should be a 2 door 😀. Looks like a joy to drive though. I hate most modern cars.
Not sure about the reliability on the 1.5T either but hey they continue to throw it in models including this (which will get beat with the high revving and shifting)
dont expect 200k with almost zero manintence anymore. This looks like they slapped a turbo on a r18. Ill always take NA over force induction.
Which is faster: 12' BMW 128i or 25' Civic Si?
Lmaooo bro 😂u know the answer to that
@@Jmarzx is it the bimmer?
exactly a 13 year old bmw is faster than this.
@@67keyakaren68 wow that’s sad 😞
@@CBW0314 definitely lol by easily 40-50 hp
Still has that classic civic rev hang.
It's due for a horsepower upgrade. The Civic Hybrid already has a 200 HP. It's kind of ridiculous.😂😂Should have at least 225 HP.
Wish we had this in Malaysia.
The wrx much faster but suspension is not well engineered to last same with gti
Doesn't sound bad either thankfully
List of changes:
Different bumper
Different rear bumper..
4:20 That 1.5t won’t last 250k trouble free miles like the older Si motors. Should’ve used a detuned 2.0t CTR motor instead, pumping out 250 HP.
6:00 New infotainment
12:00 Sport mode
21:30 Build quality
yeah small liter motors and turbos do not mix well. Ask ford.
I wish they had more options, like automatic, seat choice,colors. It’s an all in one package.
They added NVH?
No spare tire is rather annoying, same with the center console armrest, cool car though.
I have a white SI on order and it will arrive in October. I'm happy for the heated seats this year... but not so happy that Honda was still too cheap to offer as standard so many of the items that are on other, less expensive Civics as standard on the Civic Si. Like FOG LIGHTS? C'mon.. no fog lights on a sports car? Or power seats? Or dual zone climate?? How about a rear A/C vent? Or a rear phone charger? Or even wireless charging? All no.
It's not a "sports car." It's a sporty commuter.
I drove a 2023 Civic Si in Toronto for a few hours and I’m pretty sure it rev matched 2-1 for me… but I could be lying idk lol
Shifting from 2 to 1?
@@1_helper-PST I’m pretty sure it did
how is this car compared to the likes of Hyundai Elantra N line/Sport turbo
I wish they would put the shift lights in the ITS
Wish they would come in an interior color that didn't include red.
Once you shift there’s no need to keep your hand on the shifter.!
i wish they mad the civic a lift back, 2 or 4 door hatchback. I also wish they'd ditch the 1.5T for a 2.4 NA like a k24a2
They probably don't produce the 2.4 anymore.
Dude this has everything the 22-24 Canadian spec si has and less. Doesn’t even have heated wheel or heated back seats. Damn you guys got screwed in the states.
What kind of mpgs would this get on highways especially 70 miles plus? Would it be a good Commuter?
Seems decent. We all want another 20-30hp though and no rev hang.
Hondata will do both for you ❤
I like the color
I can’t really hear the turbo! Is it like this on all newer turbo civics. I’m either getting the turbo SI or the won with the K24. Which one do you like better?
1.5l... I'll take a raincheck.
1.5l turboed yikes. Wish they would go back to 2.5L NA let us slap a turbo on if we want you dont get an SI for gas mileage
I like this car but not the pipped in noise.
At least it's a setting so you can turn it off.
So is the type r updated too? Would love to know the difference
Added NVH? It's even worse than a regular Civic?
That part of the review I don't get. Did he really mean added NVH (not reduced)?
Not hating, but isn’t the civic hybrid is about the same price, same hp, same torque, and gets 50mpg?
Si could use a bit more pep
thje type r is the new si lets be real
Bummer you didn't drive under the Natchez Trace bridge.
I wish the si came with a lil more horsepower
Does it offer a lightweight sports couple type driving excitement. Can that indicator sound be muted? I would think that can get annoying