The Day Police Dropped a Bomb On Philadelphia | I Was There
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- In this episode of "I Was There", VICE meets with Ramona Africa, one of the only survivors of the police bombing in a residential neighborhood of Philadelphia in 1985. The bombing was a result of a conflict between the Philadelphia police department and the MOVE organization, the black liberation group in which Ramona belonged. The targeted house was the headquarters of the MOVE group, which had garnered complaints from their neighbors in the predominantly Black neighborhood.
00:00 Intro
03:13 The origin of MOVE
06:15 The gun battle erupts
09:45 "Nobody was arrested for the murder of my family"
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The fact that I am from the Philadelphia area and I’ve never heard of this from my school is so utterly disappointing
Bomb goes boom
Two different sides of the world. The main line separates them
@@MegaShady2000 facts
And George f**king Orwell wrote this!!
Please, please read 1984
@Angelo Aitken I think what happened was an officer shot and it hit off the ground and hit an officer. At least that’s the testimony that some of the good cops that were there that dreadful day said. I forgot the guys name but there was a very nice cop that is still very troubled by what happened that day. There’s a documentary on UA-cam if I can dig it up I’ll put the link here.
As bad as the cops looked that day we must remember there are still some good ones out there that completely disagreed with everything that happened that day. The police chief and DA were reckless that caused this event.
The amount of people in this comments section who have never heard of this just goes to show how messed up the education system is today.
Hell, I am both black, and from Philadelphia and have never heard of this
If they taught every atrocity mankind has done we would be in school till we're 60
News to me glad vice did this video
The teachers were supposed to teach this, when I was in high school. But, they thought against it because it was the end of the school term. I looked in the back of the textbook just for funnies. Then I saw it. 'The Police Bombing of Philadelphia Street' I could never forget it.
I thought why didn't we learned about that. How fucked up that was. It only solidified my beliefs on how broken the education system was, how messed up the police was & how fucked up racism was. I was really really pissed that day. I still am. With how the world is.
Or it just shows that in Germany its not exacly the most important thing to teach when the police dropped a bomb in America. Dont get me wrong but if you taught all the things like that in every school in the world then you would have to be in school 24h a day for your entire life.
My dad told me about this. He said it was one of the wildest things he had ever seen. The fact it took HIM telling me about it and not ANY resource from the city is extremely upsetting
My friend’s father dropped the actual bomb. My dad was a cop then. But I won’t say their names
Conflict or no, how you could ever justify dropping a bomb on your own citizens is beyond me.
@@EQOAnostalgia
Bruh, did you really copy and paste this same comment on every comment?
You are exactly correct. They should never have dropped a bomb on them and then just watch it burn. But that doesn't mean that MOVE doesn't carry part of the blame.
There was a fortified bunker on the roof and they got the nearby residents out of there a lot earlier. Funny how Vice didn't say that. So one sided.
@@ameer.thelion MOVE was bothering the neighbors. The government wasn't genocidal by getting a terrorist group with illegal firearms out of a city. They had a bunker on the roof. Couldn't gas them out and they fired on officers. Don't believe they lady in this video. They found all kinds of firearms inside the MOVE house. Do you want a hippie/Black Panthers style group living next door?
@@dannydaw59 There's nothing wrong with hippies, and the black panthers wouldn't exist if the American government wasn't the kind of government that would drop a bomb on a family of citizens. Then let the fire burn down like 60 other buildings. The American government is a mental mob of racist terrorists.
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@Mina Park Europeans ask why we praise politicians when they’re public servants. Their purpose is literally serve the people and yet this is what they do...
@Mina Park id say by default theyre not but they always end up so
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Imagine being one of the people who complained about this group next door, only to have your home blown away or burned down by the people you complained to for help. Do you think those people will ever trust the police or any other civil authority again after that?
Respect the police you communist pig .
I mean... problem
Solved tho right 🤷♂️
@@JB-yr4vd no, problem made.
@@JB-yr4vd how you figure?? Seems to be a formative event in how police are viewed now
why would anyone trust "authority"? thats how genocides happen
I was in the Navy then. The ship I was on was in the ship yards. This was so disgusting.. the cops dropped a satchel charge on the roof.. 62 houses burned to the ground all for what? Still no answers..
The fact that this happened in the 1980s is mind blowing to me, smh
Right, because a lot of people would have you think that things right now are MUCH worse in america. Smdh we humans have recurring amnesia
Wait until you learn that Waco only happened in the 90s
@@DestroGhost funny, that was different, it wasn't the police doing the bombing
The fact this happened in the 80s and were just learning of it in 2020, is America, smdh!
@@DestroGhost MOVE was not stockpiling weapons for a holy war
The fact that the cops even had a bomb ready to drop is alarming.
I'm not surprised, with how much money we supply them, that they could obtain a bomb.
they should not have access to that stuff, that should only be stuff accessible by the military, there is no situation in the police force where that would need to be used unless the military was more capable of dealing with it
I was thinking the same thing
@@thelastdadonearth Republicans would give the police napalm, agent orange, biological and chemical weapons and, ultimately, surface to air missiles and tactical nukes, if they could do it.
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The fact that she never saw her son again after he was taken in a van is horrible
He wasn’t her son, they were all cult members en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE_(Philadelphia_organization)
Yeah, and the children were abused. This is not a very well-done story.
@@briannamatthew3921you ok?
Abused how?@@violablackwood12
Being born and raised in Philly in 1990, I am shocked to hear about this for the very first time. I am embarrassed to know this happened in my city and had no knowledge of it until today. Im enraged and heartbroken. 💔
The fact I'm 19 living in Philly and I learned about this on UA-cam instead of my school is shameful, it a reminder everyday the system has still yet to be changed.
Bro they’ll never teach kids in Philly about this because it’s an embarrassing story for the government and you know how they deal with embarrassing situations……they pretend they never happened
It’s the government that controls the police. They also control education. What do you expect?
Education system is plagued with bureaucracy. With the immense amount of information we have easy access to nowadays and new media that can be both educational and entertaining, school is really just daycare centers for working parents and is a "society lite" for kids to get used to.
At this point, why not just dedicate school to teaching kids applicable skills for life and career? Instead of teaching things dictated by state tests?
Where are your parents at they should educate you. Keep voting demicrat ain't no Republican drop bombs in west philly
The fact you are 19 and are seeking conflict because you have hate in your heart is a reminder that you should be paying most attention to.
If this happened in any other country, we would be reminded by every U.S. administration why our country is the best because we don't have anything like this in our history
Huh
Wow, youre right...
What about david koresh? It happens all the time in america.
What?
@@sampeterson2941 ruby ridge
I remember seeing interviews with the neighbors complaining that the house was filthy and boarded up and they were complaining they had guns and that the children were suffering from malnutrition.
Hey, what better way to fix filthy housing and malnutrition than to drop bombs on those same children. Certainly filthy socialist welfare wouldn't fix it /s
They weren’t as nice as they said they were. But that still doesn’t excuse the response by the city. They firebombed an entire neighborhood to root out one black family. This literally makes no sense and is completely horrifying.
They could've simply gotten a warrant and had them arrested and investigated. They clearly didn't care about any of the people in that home, otherwise they wouldn't have killed the majority of them, including the children!
“We were getting along with our neighbors”, ma’am you had a loudspeaker pointed out to the street😅
Finally someone speaking the truth. It was their own “neighbors” who wanted these dirty squatters out. My good friend, his dad dropped the actual bomb 💣. These are such lies.
Bruh, american history has an AWFUL lot to explain to its people.
It's still happening
Follow the money!
its national exceptionalism, people choose to remember only the nostalgic while repressing the awkward and guilt.
native genocide, buffalo genocide to genocide natives, african slave trade, civil war over slavery, the failure of reconstruction, the period of the nadir including jim crow.
America has repressed history, and the white majority has no incentive to acknowledge it nor change a status quo that doesnt affect them personally.
They promagate a lot of bs 😆
Nobody is perfect....there, explained
Events in American History that I've learned through social media and not my schooling: Ruby Ridge, Waco Siege, and now the Philadelphia Bombing
Have you heard of the Tulsa Massacre in 1921? If not, add that to your list. That's even more fucked up than this.
Do some more research on how the cops assassinated Fred Hampton of the Black Panthers.
Well if you lived through the 80s and 90s those were hardly obscure.
Gap Band song "U dropped the bomb on me" look up the meaning
Remember the USS Liberty?
I was born, raised and lived in Philly until 11 years ago.
I remember this day vividly.
I still cannot comprehend the decision to do such a thing to ANYONE. 💔
They CHOSE to let blocks burn to the ground. I will never understand.
It's to show that they can and to make people afraid. They wanted it to burn.
@@Icon5150 I know they were causing a lot of problems for their neighbors. They turned down an offer for free land outside of the city. EVEN SO, what a cruel, inhumane thing to do to anyone. Then to let the entire neighborhood burn to the ground. Crazy.
8 years before Waco there was this
@earthling8585 I am skeptical of just how much of a Nuisance they really were. At least some if not a large amount of the supposed outrage had to have been Karen neighbors and the average persons knee-jerk reaction to anything to do with revolutionary groups and movements. The city of Philadelphia went ahead and firebombed its own citizens you think they didn't also try to portray the people they just killed as an out of control cult that was doing all manner of heinous stuff in the aftermath to make themselves look better and more justified then you are being naive in the extreme.
I never heard of this before. It’s insane how this happened.
When she said they dropped a bomb I didn’t think she meant literally. I can’t believe I’ve never heard about this.
MOVE were a hardcore anti-capitalist group... anything fierce and legitimately anti-capitalist is ignored in the media.
@@davispa4143 there is nothing wrong with capitalism, but a corrupt government using it for wrong.
@@redfear77 There's nothing wrong with markets*** Capitalism is garbage tho.
You can thank white leftists for that sweetie. They went after the media for manipulating us 🤷🏽♂️
This is the kind of thing the anti-CRT laws are meant to keep people from learning about.
I live in philly, my grandma cries every time she talks about this.
@@Lover20k Lmao typical white person response. The reason gangs were even created was because of the system that was made to protect y’all didn’t protect us, cops were and still are in most cases it’s own gang and our enemy. The gangs were there to protect ourselves. Maybe America should fix the system and stop systemic racism and these “Gangs” will go away.
@@Lover20k shut up troll.
@Kay Kay Warren @fresh B She lived like 20 min away yeah
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@@MrDoesntUpload001 **typical racists response**
You know well enough, that plenty of white Americans support equality. Look at any blm protest, they are full of white people. I’ve been to several myself. And judging by your name, you should also know that many other races are also racist. I know some Hispanic people that say some of the most racist things I’ve ever heard. They act like they’re joking, but they’re not really joking.
The bitter irony of this happening in a street called Osage Ave. Crazy story.
What is even more disgusting is that they took the bones of the deceased children and have been using them in lectures and demonstrations in colleges. America is irredeamable.
"America is irredeemable" that's a stupid thing for an American to say, why do you say that, because you're too lazy to be the change you want to see in this country? You'd rather just throw it out? And then what? Grow up.
please cite where you got this from
@@TheNoobHiker he or she or it probably heard it from some other fool
@@bobbyc2768 Google search. I was about to doubt them but then I just searched. It's real
I feel like this deserves more than a 12 minute story, I want to hear more about this!
Look it up?
Deserves more perspective too, I don’t doubt that the police are likely in the wrong but she makes it sound like it’s some innocent neighbourhood or something with the KKK policemen coming to lynch them all
@@CANControlGRAFFITI uhh someone is curious as well, huh? 👀
@@verstappen9937 That's what a black person calmly explaining something in plain terms sounds like to you...confirmation-bias much? 11 Killed; 5 were children. The 61 homes that were destroyed left 250 homeless. Great job with your embarrassing, uninformed opinion.
After John Africa's death, his widow, Alberta, married John Gilbride, Jr. Together they had a child, Zackary Africa, circa 1996. The couple divorced in 1999. Gilbride no longer supported MOVE and resettled in Maple Shade, New Jersey. Alberta Africa was living in Cherry Hill, New Jersey with their son John Zachary Gilbride, as he was legally known.[44]
On September 10, 2002, in the course of their bitter custody dispute, Gilbride testified in court that MOVE had threatened to kill him.[45] The court granted Gilbride partial custody of Zackary, allowing him unsupervised visits.
On September 27, 2002, shortly after midnight and prior to Gilbride's first visitation date with Zackary, an unknown assailant shot and killed Gilbride with an automatic weapon as he sat in his car parked outside his New Jersey home.[44] Investigators did not name a suspect and the Burlington County Police did not release ballistics information.[
Wtf how have I not learned about this in school, an event like this should never be forgotten. SMH
Schools teach government approved propaganda. If they don't want you to know, they won't teach it.
This event is taught in some classes in some schools. But it isn't a big enough event to be taught in elementary school history classes.
@@bicyclist2 If you don’t educate yourself about things, don't blame the government for it.
@@bicyclist2 or maybe there's just too much history to teach.
More people need to be woke and don’t believe the news do your own research 😇
They left out how they killed and ate peoples pets. They also left out that every action they could take to get them out was taken. I mean dropping a fucking bomb on a block is inexcusable but it wasn't one sided.
Well what can you expect when interviewing such a clearly unbiased person
This paints a very glossy picture of MOVE.
It does. I’m 49 and from that neighborhood, NOBODY liked MOVE and with good reason.
@@workedfortheciawhenisoldrocklmao doing nothing but yapping nonsense
@@christianmiller9934How is it nonsense?
Things they dont teach in school. This is UNBELIEVABLE
Why would you teach this in school? Kids can’t even understand basic math which is useful.
@@harman2674 Because math and history or current events is the same subject. And the same people and government that are responsible for kids not understanding math are responsible for kids not learning about stuff like this.
@@harman2674 your incredibly smart where you from?
Police brutality is a terrible problem, but still it is not discussed in schools thats sad
The education starts at home from parents/adult caregivers. So it is the failure of education given from parents too.
Government seems to be good at charging you for the same crimes they committed.
They are unbelievable
Its funny... during all this tension how news stories from 35 years ago just pop up... to piss people off all over again, while a phony election is being played out on the world stage... while people are out of work and pissed off already. Seems to me like the media is desperately trying to reopen old wounds and spur on race wars. ua-cam.com/video/uz4oUFYmBvI/v-deo.html
If you feel that way you haven't read the whole story Cody en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE . They were harassing the neighbors and breaking all kinds of laws. Vice won't tell you that.
@@EQOAnostalgia nobody gives 2 Dookie droppings how you feel.. An injustice such as this should never be forgotten.. That's YOUR government that did this to its own citizens.
@@dannydaw59 no they were not. They left trash in their compound and occasionally played loud messages on their bullhorn. What crime did they commit to justify them being bombed?
The fact that I’ve never truly known the profound gravity of this event… my god. This should’ve changed America. This should’ve outraged all of America. This should’ve been something I learned about in school. This woman telling this story is so so so important. This is how we don’t forget the past horrors. This is how we learn to be kinder people. This should outrage you, it should. And we should all strive to never ever let this event happen. We should make sure the people who did this are truly held accountable. This is just…. My god.
lol
😂😂 you are listening to the vice version buddy that's why
Thank you for bringing this to our attention! How did this ever happen! Disgusting! How haven't we heard about it? Love from the U.K.
Because we don't like to give attention to terrorists, the same as school shooters.
Did they teach you about other common criminals in UK? Shhhh before you open your trap
@@eganc1976common criminals this was a terrorist attack by the cops
I can’t believe I’m entering college next year and am learning this for the first time through social media
I think the internet is amazing when it comes to the spread of information. (other than the current censorship taking place on Facebook and Twitter) There used to be only like 3 channels people could watch for news at night. Now anyone with a cell phone can post video and share it with the world.
I just graduated college, and just learned about this
Spread it child of light.
spread the hate
Believe it! I’m a lil older then you & just learning it
The event had a major impact on me when I was a child. It taught me how far the police would go to enforce their will.
The police should enforce the law by any means necessary, obviously...
@@DickCheneyXX Are you serious?
@@xaviergast1867 he’s a right winger so of course he’s a copsucker, they like having other men protecting them
@@zombielikemunchies8009 How are the police supposed to deal with an insurrection if they can't shoot back?
@@DickCheneyXX Didn't dick Cheney have an oil map of Iraq a year before 9/11? Before the election. Isn't that strange? Almost like he knew what was coming and what would be done after.
WTH, 6 deceased CHILDREN!!! The city, police and fire commander all have blood on their hands.
They had it coming & they've still got it coming all these year's later.
Why's that?
Wow this is insane, and the fact it’s never talked about.. disgusting. Thank you for this story
@R TJ Well, we've been hearing from the White House for the last four years.
It was never talked about because nobody cares
@@reneewickline3259 Obviously some people care.
Like the Jan 6th traitorous insurrectionist terrorist thugs who desecrated the nations capital simply because they couldn't handle their poor candidate losing lol.
I'm almost 50 and I've never heard of that till today
It’s insane that I have never even heard of this until now. Makes me wonder whether I live under a rock or the world purposefully silences those who have suffered at the hands of corruption. It’s clearly the latter
Look into a full documentary explaining both sides and all facts. Vice leans more in favor of MOVE. MOVE is a terrorists organization filled with murderers, child abusers, and criminals.
Sad people like you dont know the full story move are bad people
What silence do you speak of? It was on the news
@@natethebait yes. Its easy to bend the truth after the fact
@@natethebait i love technology, i love the internet, i love everything about our interconnectedness. However, i am very afraid of the forum it gives people who only knee jerk to hearsay and pollute tje MOB with less than fact and uninformed opinion. This is the most frightening. I do not know where we go from here.
I never knew about this. I was a kid in NJ going through a divorce so yeah, not paying attention to the news. Then I moved to Philadelphia after college, lived there for 5 years and still didn’t hear about this. Thanks for posting!
I lived in Philly during this terrible time. This isn't telling the entire story of what went down. MOVE wasn't a benevolent back to nature movement in that neighborhood. The city's overly violent response was never followed up on despite hearings. It was a horrific over response by the city that resulted in the death of innocent kids and the destruction of a city block. Insanity on both sides.
they were drug dealing cop killers nothing about move was non violent
I think this story made that very clear
THE ETERNAL FENCE SITTER. Actually they were both equally insane!
This video dropped at the perfect time. My school is asking for a presentations on forgotten evens in American history. This should have a spotlight, this should genuinely have a room in American textbooks
Can you note down some I can look at?
@@Ricanae205 yeah. Our presentation is next Monday but I can definitely post some once we do the presentations 👍
Cool thank you😁👍🏽
@@__yuri99 Oh yeah I'm gonna sub to you so I don't miss that
@@__yuri99 (you'll upload it to your channel right)
Now this is vice.
Yes
Misinformation? Yeah
@@pointschamp2518 ? Please explain
@@MRTuning704 he’s probably a trump supporter
@@alexreyes3730 yeah denying even ocular evidence is clearly a sign
They werent allowed to teach us this in 2004 in middle school. Horrible.
The more i learn about the government in the 1980’s and 90’s the more disappointed i become with the country i live in. I understand that some people have different beliefs but we live in a free country and shouldn’t be killed for believing something thats out of the ordinary. An unarmed woman holding a baby shouldn’t be killed, over a dozen kids shouldn’t be burned alive for the beliefs of their parents, and bombs should not be dropped on American civilians. Also our education system has failed us, i grew up 3 hours from Philadelphia and never heard about this until a youtube video showed it to me.
They charged Ms. Africa with arson even tho THEY set the house on fire... seems legit
Same police dept that arrested Mumia.
@Apeman Commeth yeah ok whatever you say.
@Apeman Commeth How they going to find an accelerant after they burned the place down? Sounds like more lies out of a corrupt police dept.
@@adobo1976 Traces can be found after by forensics, but it does seem unlikely
Anything that happens in the midst of a crime the suspects are charged with it was their actions that caused it. It wouldn't have even been a situation if they weren't breaking the law
Most of America doesn't even know about this just like most didn't know of Black Wallstreet in Tulsa.
And there a million things that you don't know. Welcome to reality.
Most know about black wallstreet
Oh i know. I know.
I learned about it only because i took advance history here in broken arrow/tulsa 15 plus years ago.
Actually nowadays people are learning about it. But what's really crazy is that people know about the bombing of Black Wall Street in 1920s but don't know the bombing of a residential black neighborhood by the police in 1980s
Amazing. I was 7 years old at the time and don't remember this story in the news cycle.
I had a friend share this with me 12 years ago, I couldn’t believe that this could happened. So I did my own research and discovered so many layers to this story. Still can’t believe this story isn’t talked about more.
Cover up. I was an infant when this was going on. No public outrage at the police destruction of a neighborhood? Shame on the apathy of our Society.
I'm 32 and today is the first time I hearing about it. Crazy..
RIP to the souls that murdered that day 🙏
Neanderthals are demonic
Well tell us what your research said?
@@cameronmohebbi8825 Well the first thing that stood out was Wilson Goode, the first black mayor of the city, who approved the 1985 attack , claimed he didn’t know the extent of the damage it would cause, lol, it was a bomb! He has since apologized several times, but right after the bombing he did say he’d do it again. The city council members who approved the bombing and ordered the chief of police to drop it with the mayor, I’m still not clear on the meetings that lead up to that decision.Then there was more than 10,000 rounds of ammunition fired from police submachine guns before the bomb was dropped. Ramona who was badly burned in the fire. For her escaping, she was arrested, charged with riot and conspiracy, and spent the next seven years behind bars - the only person ever to be convicted of crimes arising from the attack was totally wrongly convicted. I know this isn’t going to be political correct, but I believe why this is not talked about as much in the MSM is because most of the high level people that called for the bombing were black. I’m not sure that the two children killed were ever given to their families, the county had reported they lost them for a long time and then they found them, the family has been asking for them.
My ancestors were “accidentally” bombed by the Air Force while sitting on their porch in 1944. The Cosson Massacre. It happened more than you would think...
Wtf. RIP
P.S.
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Ok hydra
Wow I just Googled that. I'm so sorry for your loss. And of course this was never mentioned in school
As an adult, I'm finally realizing that our government is just as corrupt as the cartels in Mexico. Same kind of system. Cartels tax the people, our government taxes us. The only real difference is that the narco cartels don't lie about their business, and our US government does. Why did our history classes never teach us about all these bombings?
US serviceman and allies need to use orange flags on their vehicles so they dont get bombed by US airforce. USA is really good at friendly fire, always has been.
When you see philly today it makes you feel bad the bomb didnt level the whole city
Exactly
Well, they were not “getting along with the neighbors”. Years and years of neighborhood complaints and all sorts harassment. Also malnourished kids living in squalor etc. They did not start this action on a whim. The bomb, and fire response, stunningly idiotic and cowardly.
This incident is clearly a crime against humanity and the person's responsible for the decisions that led to this unconscionable crime needs to be held accountable.
Yeah ,why would someone shoot at the police?
Extremely accountable
@@chaman102 ?
are you saying that MOVE should be held accountable, Even though they didn’t shoot at the police?
@@obliviousdisaster they did ,watch the whole thing and read articles ,they killed a cop
@@chaman102 Yes you're right, legal due process goes like this: Somebody is accused of a crime and then uhhh you drop a bomb on them and shoot at them when they attempt escaping burning to death with their children and let 60 homes in the surrounding area burn. Really glad they followed the proper rule of law to get justice for that police officer.
@@scoops2 lmao ,I never said it was right , sometimes you commit a crime and everyone gets rekt
I remember this I was 16 years old living in south Jersey, roughly 40 minutes from Philly. It was all over the news, I felt so bad for the move members, it was not justifiable dropping a bomb on a row home, that was crazy.
True that
I'm from Georgia. And remember this Low-Down actions against people of color. 1985, Not 1955! Til this day!
It’s funny how they don’t negotiate with Terrorist but this right here contradicts it
And nobody has done anything about it still.
Why would she keep her kids with her during this sorry buy if ur stupid enough to put your kids in danger for what?what was she fighting for?
I was 6, I think, when this happened. My aunt was a cop in this district. She took an early retirement as a result of this. They were children in there.
Man, I remember this well. And no one in authority went to jail over it.
Anytime that anyone ever says “The government would never…”
They absolutely can, and will, and get away with whatever they want
Yes thats why I laugh at 2nd amendment people
Is those same sheep people being control by them and believing everything they say..
they can and will so keep your activity's above board and you don't have anything to worry about. their activity's were illegal. manufacturing bombs to place in hotels and embassies are a no no in the US.
@@u-know-this To the same point, it can also be used for 2nd amendment people. The 2nd Amendment is the only thing the people have to fight back against this kind of stuff. The government has proven over and over again that they will kill you if they want to. So having the ability to have something more than your bare hands is a good argument in support of the 2nd amendment.
9/11
I'm from Philadelphia. Born and raised. I just turned 7 when MOVE happened. I remember the whole thing like it was yesterday. It was absolutely awful to witness. I remember going to see the aftermath and the destruction was mind blowing. That part of West Philly was never the same. Those poor people who lost their homes weren't given anything near the amount that they lost.
Would u say on a playground is where u spent most of your days.
@@k.b.elliott7137 West Philly my man....
Fresh prince of bel air song.
Lol
West Philadelphia born and raised on a playground is where I spent most of my days.
@@k.b.elliott7137 I know brotha 🤣
U guys are trash people all that protesting and you go home and sit on your ass no job or anything. Fucking bomb it
I'm so glad yall are telling this story i just wish this was longer
ANYTIME you only get one side of the story (Mrs Africa's), then you are NOT getting the whole story.
Oh, we have heard the city's version.
"History is written by the victors"
Explains why most of us have never heard of this until now. Thx Reddit
I came here from Reddit as well. I'm turning 36 this year and I've never heard of this.
Cruel is one word that comes to mind.
Yeah, I don't believe her version of this history either. I mean, how dumb are we? This Democrat ran city was willing to carpet bomb two blocks of homes to kill a human pest problem. Think of the planning it took to execute this. They probably spent weeks calculating how much damage would ensue and realized it was worth the risk/destruction. That's how much of a pest this group of people were to others on the block. Pretty nutty that Democrat leadership was willing to go through all of that just to remove like 11 people from a block. Freaking Democrats and stupid ideas. It's like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Here's a fun fact from 1985. Wilson Goode was the mayor of Philadelphia at the time. He was the first African American mayor of Philadelphia. He was a Democrat. So just remember that for historical purposes, because the left will try to spin this story in the future as a "racist event" by white supremacist's or some other nonsense.
@@jimbrown341 No it was the elite corporate democrats that did that no doubt.
It's because you don't read not because this information is censored
Yeah if Hasanabi didn't mention it the other day I never would've heard about this. So disappointing.
There’s always have a reason why they don’t teach American History in schools.
Would you wanna say “where a bunch of violent communist!
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
because you live in Germany? Maldives? Russia? Canada? maybe they should teach grammar in your school
@@gotacallfromvishal it's just a typo you big dumbo
@@popefrancis80 thanks for pointing out that smartass wannabe💀😂
Holy crap, I have never even heard of this until now.
I was confused because I live in Philadelphia and never saw it happen but then realized that it happened back in the 80's
My grandmother was part of the move project. She was arrested for attempted murder . Latoya Jennings. She died in Prison.
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Just Terrible, this makes me physically Ill.
God bless her soul, she passed fighting for what she believed in, Respect, very sorry for your loss
My deepest condolences. Blessings to you and yours.
why cant the people responsible for this get charged now? It was only 35 years ago?
They are probably dead by now.
They're dead now, rotting in hell .
@j d who said I was demanding lol im literally asking a question
@j d i'm demanding it. anyone with a soul could easily see this was unjustified... anyone who doesn't hate due to someone's skin tone... prob not someone like you, i'd assume by your comment.
@@Raja-bz4yw what about the younger ones who did this?
Wow that was crazy and horrible. Unbelievable
It sickens me how history was watered down so that we wouldn't know about everything that was done
This is crazy and even crazier that this is the first I’ve heard of this , like no day of remembrance for this horrible war crime, they bombed a house you can’t arrest someone after you blow them up. This was a public execution if anything
Same and I literally grew up in Philadelphia
@@conductors dude that’s so Fucked
They tried to kill the whole family, 10,000 rounds fired, hundreds of police, they let the fire burn for 1h 1/2 before sending firefighters, dropped a bomb on their house, destroyed 2city blocks and cost taxpayers $33,000,000 or more to rebuild
Share it
@@conductors share it
The part where she was also arrested for arson just baffles me.
The system works as it was designed. No surprises here. America is evil.
@@BibleStorm Only white ppl be shocked. This is normal protocol where im from
I think that's a common thing, charging the "criminal" for damages done by the police during an arrest.
The Philadelphia government did not arrest the Fire Commissioner who turned his hoses off (yes, they were on before the bombing!) -- THAT was arson. The Philadelphia government has tried to kill MOVE members many times, and succeeded, just not so blatantly. The point was never to arrest, [unarmed] women and children, MOVE people were walking in and out of the house all the time. The Philly govt wanted to literally kill MOVE.
Having dealt with the legal system I wasn't shocked whatsoever. Sad to say, I expected as much. Seriously.
Decades later the school district of Philadelphia is now teaching about this horrific event
I've heard about this being from York Pennsylvania, right outside of the capital. But I've never heard about it in detail
Her: "I was born and raised in west Philadelphia"
Brain: On the playground where I spend most of my days
Yup! Lol
Yup
Came here to say this
Not proud of it, but I thought the same thing.
I'm ashamed to admit but I thought the saaame lolz
I'm 38 & I've NEVER heard of this. I'm appalled that this happened.
I’m 38 and I was just thing this.
The police obtained arrest warrants in 1985 charging four MOVE occupants with crimes including parole violations, contempt of court, illegal possession of firearms, and making terrorist threats.[4] Mayor Wilson Goode and police commissioner Gregore J. Sambor classified MOVE as a terrorist organization.[32]
@@666Necropsy honestly they had to go they was terrorizing thier neighborhood
@@antoinejenkins2096 all of them do.
And this was the 2nd time the city of philadelphia went after the move members. And people need to stop allowing Media to control their mind. This is why Trump call it fake news, but robots doesn't see pass what the media say
Things were way more chill durring that time,could never get away with this now 😂
This is a riveting story yet I couldn't help but notice the 2 smiling guys at 6:39, right after gunshots rang out
I've never heard of this. That's what I like about Vice.
which makes it easier for them to lie about it
Yeah but they twist the story in a way to fit their narrative. Especially stories nobody knows about.
@@ew_ds2939 no part of this is truth in how they presented this
@@brettpid6416 You must be affiliated with PPD lol. Not one lie was told in this video.
@@yeet5146 so what is the lie?
this specific instance needs to me taught in american schools. it’s recent, it’s brutal, and it’s physically sickening. prayers for the families who were victimized
I agree it should be tought in schools along with the SLA VIDEOS on what happens when you don't comply and shoot at cops
Nit just american schools. They should educate students EVERYWHERE about everything like this that happened
Fck them, they started a mini war and they got clapped for it. It’s well deserved
i live in philadelphia and this is the first time i've heard of this? it's absolutely insane to me how i never knew about this sort of event
They were terrorists, they don’t belong in a book.
Just the fact that I know so many stars from Philly and the stigma that surrounds that city and not one time have I heard of this or any of my favorite athletes talk about this is crazy
pro tip: don't call yourself revolutionaries. the title literally implies your an enemy combatant.
‘I was sentenced 16 months to seven years in prison, so... I did the whole seven years.’
This hit me hard. America should be ashamed.
@Jim Cornette did the cop that they murdered?
@Jim Cornette ok troll.
@Jim Cornette for what exactly? troll. I cant wait till your kind is the minority in 2060
@@neetloop173 what is his kind? Where all human beings. Your just as bad as the racist imo, You keep us separated just like them.
@@neetloop173 we as humans are not going to make 2060 because of inhumaine humans like yourself. Fact
So basically, this was an “Inner City WACO” before WACO.
That’s what I was thinking
What’s also sad is this was Tulsa, OK decades before Waco.
Tulsa and many other black cities pre-date that.
yes, except MOVE didn’t collect arms or pose a real threat to society
@@aivito2521/videos Exactly. They didnt aim their firepower at the FBI for 2 months either..
I was 18 and I saw it on Channel 29. I’m from Maryland about an hour from Osage Avenue. Wilson Goode was the mayor of Philadelphia on that day, Surprisingly he was re-elected 2 years later. If memory serves me right Sambor was removed in 1986.
I was in the Marine Corps and stationed in NC when this happened. A friend of mine said “Man what’s going on in your city”? That’s when I called home and got the news. From my time growing up I had seen MOVE throughout the city. In fact some of them had moved into an abandoned house on our block. But they didn’t bother anyone. There’s an interesting book and documentary about this called “Let It Burn” for anyone interested.
I was in Swamp Lejeune also that day. Hope you put in your claims and have an Attorney for the contaminated water on base.
Who Moved into the abandoned crack house?
The same MOVE terrorizing their neighborhoods, espousing political propaganda over bullhorns at night, housing members wanted for parole violations, contempt of court, illegal possession of firearms, and making terroristic threats and then shooting at the police when these warrants were being served? Even if the warrants were false, which I guarantee to you they weren't, the place to settle that is a courtroom, not a gunfight with the police, especially not when you have children in your house.
I was in echo 2/2 …in the field came back to the barracks Friday morning and the guys in H&S came up to me and said my city was burning
@@nick3764 tell that to Maga and the Jan 6 insurrection mfs who charged up Washington DC like it was the damn revolutionary war, on the president of the United States and the republican parties behalf to "steal back" a fuckin vote here in present day 2020 and half them white men and women won't see an ounce of accountability that should be raining down like that bomb in Philly
Neighbours: Hey can you do something about the house next door
Police: Well we can burn down most of the houses on the block?
It was not that simple. This is very biased. And this is coming from a black person.
@@eman151511 explain
So sad, respect to the victims
My heart aches for this woman. She lost so much.
She also refused to surrender, playing with fire.
@@TriggaHappy00121213 Go to hell idiot, you'll eventually get yours and you'll be crying for mommy when that day comes too. Cowardly boomer.
@@TriggaHappy00121213 these people also were very likely criminals and had children in this im sure disgusting place
Nothing justifies dropping a whole ass bomb on people
@@Untoastedbagel1271 That's like saying nothing justifies killing someone, i beg to differ.
Im a 32 year old American, just learning about this.
Then put down the porn and pick up a book!
@@vancouverviking4652 Sad thing is, I'd rather that be the excuse for my lack of knowledge then the fact that this went by all my life and me just not being told of it. Florida school system.
being Black I feel extra guilt for not knowing. not that race has to play a role in feeling empathy, this just feels intense that i'm pretty much old and that im also a born native of the land and this slice of history seems to have been cut out AND i've never read of this in any textbook.
kinda mind blown...but yeah i'll take your porn advice and read more books...see all the grammar errors of mine!?
@@balfourwheatley6644 No shame In being unaware, they purposely hid these things.
Same here. I’m a little older than you and I had no idea.
@@vancouverviking4652 you literally live in Canada, you can not speak for us Americans.
this is such a horrible story that needs to be known, I know those in the area have likely heard about repeatedly but farther afield not so much... and yes I do realise there’s two sides to every story. I’m having to do some research on my own which is not a problem just slow going
Another one was out in California or near and they used an explosive and caused a fire and the man died inside. He was an African American who used to be in the military. Maybe someone knows his name.
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
It is well known..your just dumb
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Nobody is hiding anything, it didn’t happen last week for Christ sake. It happened like 35 years ago, do you expect the government to still be giving updates and press conferences twice a day? They were terrorists that everyone including the people whose houses got destroyed hated. If the houses of their neighbors didn’t burn nobody would’ve thought twice about the cops decision.
How did she not sue for that. That's insane. They dropped a bomb in a residential community and let it burn for over an hour
Cause move killed an officer, all move members were revolutionary terrorist, and tried to use kids as human shields but you don’t know that since this is so 1 sided
They did sue
this is so heartbreaking
i’m from around here and have never heard about this. it’s insanely sad that we didn’t learn about this in school. my heart goes out to all the families who had to go through this, none of you guys deserved it.
Schools will never teach you about this. Their history is made up and isn’t the truth. Most of the things the government has done was to shut us down and keep us like wild animals fighting one another and the fear of the unity we all can achieve. The 60’s-80’s was different times and unity was at its high during that era. Whites brown black red yellow you name it world wide all came together
It's a story that really does not get much attention anymore, hasn't for decades. Except on May 13th each year on the local Philly news making the anniversary briefly. I recall this 1985 day vividly, The earl morning shootout, the water cannons, then the helicopter / bomb at 5:30pm. I knew about the group just by the name and what happened in 1978. THAT I slightly recall, the first confrontation in the Mantua section...always remember this grainy news clip of guns shooting and this dog running across the scene.
Im from Florida minutes away from where the Ocoee massacre took place and had no clue because they never taught us about it in school.
The rosewood massacre was a few hours away and i only learned about that recently
The school systems have failed us. Its contributing to this country being so torn
I was a kid when this happened. I lived blocks away, unaffected by the fires, but close enough, to fear them coming. Scared the sheeit of out of my family. The "breaking news" at the time made it seem like move started the fires. Mayor Rizzo was a racist and a jackass. My stepfather told stories of how Rizzo when he was a cop terrorize black teens in his past.
Im honestly in shock that happened in the USA as recently as the 80’s.
Somebody needs to make a full on doc or series about it. So sad. 😢
Would it be sad if antifa was bombed? I don’t know man. This group wasn’t all that it’s chalked up to be. Find it weird that her last name is the same as the founders. More of a cult than anything b
@@BogeyBoys28 I get what you’re saying but you can’t just bomb and burn someone’s home that isn’t posing any threat to society. You gotta at least agree on that.
There is a movie on it.
@@BogeyBoys28 so just cause they have different views and aren't hurting anyone they should be shot at and bombed
They were radical extremists and killed a cop. That’s a big problem
The enemy seemed pretty desperate to put down that family...
I was looking at homes in this neighborhood during 2020 after the riots in Minneapolis as our city was pretty crazy over that year and there are some really attractive row houses in this neighborhood: Glad to see they came back but JFC did I dodge a bullet staying here in Minneapolis. Man.
Philly: “We have a slight problem in our city, just wondering what to d--“
America: BOMB IT BOMB IT BOMB IT
We need to drop more bombs
@@bnutz8 on what
@@bnutz8 then bomb the bombs! Yeah!! 😔
This was local government action ...."America" had nothing to do with it.
Better hope it doesn’t happen again with all these riots they may do it again
The best part of this is the footage of them dropping the bomb. You can't say Move did it when there is physical proof. My heart is just broken from this
And from your comment so must your brain
Agreed. It really seems like the police were really wanting to use a bomb given it is not common practice for them to do so. The use of a bomb is so ridiculous. SMH.
What gets me is she was charged with arson when the whole thing was on live tv.
@@Qqxx22 the reason they used it because they were hunkered down with powerful rifles . They shot at the house over 10k Bullets and no one died . The lady is crazy not anyone gets killed by police , she and her “family” were trying to overthrow the government by force . Had they simply stop trying to overthrow America , and accept being a part of America , nothing would have happened. In no other country would terrorists get treated differently. The Taliban sounds like a great group to if you ask why they fight .
@@ci6516 I get your point. But I think as law enforcement professionals they should be better than dropping bombs. Remember, they are the professionals who are tasked protect life and then property.
Knowing kids were in there and how bombs work (with their non discriminatory nature) the cops should have done better.
I acknowledge cops have a hard job but with the gun and the badge comes the higher standard they are held to.
If they cannot hold themselves up to that standards I suggest finding another line of work.
@@ci6516 they never bombed the kkk
Still one of the most eyeopening documentaries that ever existed
I absolutely hate this kind of story telling - supposing that one side was completely innocent while other is absolutely vilified...
MOVE was NOT an innocent organization! They were anarcho-primitivist commune. By definition anarcho-primitivists seek to live in communities that are in harmony with nature and liberated from the rules of civilization. This means instead of peacefully living on the country side they were living in cities just to cause anarchy...
And this 1985 altercation was 2nd between MOVE and peoples of Philadelphia.
First altercation was in 1978. A standoff resulted in the death of one police officer and injuries to 16 officers and firefighters...
So yeah... it wasn't like the city wanted to take any chances with those animals...
It's absolutely disgusting of VICE to present these POS as saints... Really disgusting.
And no wonder nobody is talking about this - they do not wan't to give attention to criminals. Same as they do not post school shooters names to not give them recognition so it wouldn't happen again...
So, you just drop a bomb on them and burn down dozens of houses. Makes sense. For a white supremacist.
@@OompaL0ompa They didn't wan't to move! How else will you move people who shoot at you when you try to approach them in a civil way? Show no respect, get no respect. They wanted to act like animals, they got treated that way!
Where the F is accountability for your actions these days?
@@OompaL0ompa Yeah and it has so much to do with color of skin... Congratz man for keeping racism alive! Noone was talking about skin color... It would be nothing different if MOVE was an organization of white people...
@ i am a trained military police officer from germany. Back in 1985, every police corps in the world knew how to deal with barricaded "threats". You evacuate the surroundings, you turn off power,gas and water. Then you wait.
You arrest them when they come out for food or water. No one dies. Or you evacuate the surroundings and work with gasmasks and gas.
This here, you do that when you hate "those people". They did not care about the whole neighborhood.
That is what makes them uniformed jim crow terrorists in MY EYE.
@@OompaL0ompa I definitely understand your point of view. Bombs should have never been used. But they were faced with a ravaging group where you couldn't just turn off power, gas and water. As they didn't even had those. Their squatted house was disconnected from power, gas and water anyway by their own ideology - anarcho-primitivism.
They terrorized the neighbourhood and were uncapable of civilized dialogue. They lacked the accountability for any of their actions.
4:10 Like in the video that woman says that people complained about the loudspeaker being on day and night and she blames it on the police. ON THE POLICE. Even though it was THEM who blasted garbage on the speakers which upset the neighbours... Did the police instal that loudspeaker? Were the police yelling on it?
This is just one of the examples...
And above all, why? Why didn't they just move out? It was THEIR ideology to distance themselves from the civilization... There is no logic in this...
Now they are on VICE because they are minority and even though they were irresponsible and danger to society they present themselves as poor victims...
But yeah I agree, those were unreasonable measures. I just want to point out that noone was innocent here. A cop died, firefighters were also injured... They werent playing games...
Newscaster “They wear their hair in dreadlocks because they reject combs” 💀💀💀
Na man that was uncalled for
Anything that white people don't do or understand is wrong
If you think this couldn’t happen today you’re crazy.