Wow, compared to all the other cars, the 918 just attacks the switchbacks and sweepers with so much more aggression and verve! Guess that what another 300-400hp and nearly a million bucks gets you. Wish they had the P1 and LaF to compare it with.
Oh my god that 918 is fast. I had no idea it was THIS fast. 6 seconds quicker than the nismo? On a track this small that's a huge gap. But that camaro is very impressive. For a $75k car to rival an f12 and a nismo is awesome. But Gah damn that 918. . . It's a monster.
Watching K. C. in the 918 vs. Aaron in the Viper, Aaron is busting his butt trying to keep it on the track, where K.C. is almost out for a Sunday drive! He's working nowhere near as hard and turning a WAY faster lap. Thank you, Porsche Engineering!
It has definitely grown on me since I saw the first few shots of them. I love the dimensions and those wheels I would just have in black and good to go :)
possibly the equipment on board (gps, laptop and stuff) or sth. else in the doorbox. i had sounds like these often when driving my old shitty golf 3 "fast" (110mph) on the autobahn and the surface was not very pleasing. some plastic shit in the doors always started to jingle.
The grip is incredible. Even if the Nismo has the same HP I don't think it would be as fast on this track. Actually if any of these cars had the same HP it wouldn't be this fast on this track. Maybe in a straight line?
The steep pricetag aside, this is one of the more futuristic sportscar that money can buy. The interior looks incredibly cool The blazing speed is there combined with the clever AWD and endless acceleration from the hybrid powertrain, this is one lethal combination to bring down lap times. One thing I wonder though, how will the P1 do? I think it should do better given its better downforce configuration and lighter weight. It does have a small battery, so full power may not be available throughout the lap.
Great points and a good mix of opinions I will say. Most are calling the 918 AWD which it's not.More like 4WD to a specific speed. The front and rear aren't connect by shaft and diff. Front E-motor only helps drive the front wheels. Front and rear only share battery usage and power. From what I have gathered front E-motor cuts at 165mph rendering it to 2WD. I original read front motor cut at 145 but it seems all has changed. P1 battery charge claims seem to come of a lot. You are right to some degree P1 isn't really at full power. Reason being peak torque is cut from 723 to 664 ft-lbs.Based off a video I have seen of P1 power curve.From 0 rpm's E-motor jumps in full power mode till 4000 rpm's at max throttle. Once there peak torque is cut to 664 because turbos are now at full lit.Only after 7000 rpm does E-motor go into full power till redline or 8250. This is due to overall engine torque decreasing. Like Mclaren says torque fill. So basically at max throttle engine rpm's will never drop below 4000 rpm's allowing the E-motor to conserve overall battery power. Of course in slow or tight turns E-motor will adjust usage to the rpm levels. The P1 only regens off throttle or under braking. No brakes are involved at all.E-motor is programmed to recover electrical power and send excess torque for batteries to keep power up. The battery system is smaller then 918 but LaFerrari much smaller and lighter then P1.
This cheap, crappy video is way overexposed. It lacks proper graphics like RPM and speed. It lacks multiple camera angles and drone shots. Geezus, guys, can't you do better than making the guy in the accounting department slap his GoPro in the back of the car and hit record? How about some comments from the driver? Watch Motorweek's and even Motor Trend's videos and get schooled. Do the car justice.
I think it was a nice concept. Drive the hell out of it and see the lap time. Hear the car, from the inside and see the accouterments. I too like all of the data(I could watch tire temps, g-loads and pedal actuating all day) but this is a nice way to see basic differences between many nice cars.
***** The concept of the V8 engine originates from the LMP2 RS Spyder race car. It basically means Porche went full beast mode on this one. Ive heard that the cameras dont do it justice and neither do the stiffled ehausts. Look up that LMP2 car and hear what it could potentially sound like.
I am sure that if someone wanted to make an aftermarket non-muffled/baffled exhaust it would be just as loud. Emissions prevent Porche from doing that themselves
Great job Car & Driver on another awesome Lightning Lap! I'm a subscriber and have enjoyed this event every year. -- The 918 showed just how incredible it really is. I hope you can convince McLaren next year to give you the P1, I would really like to see how it compares. I think it can give the 918 a run for its money!
I was wondering the same thing. In high G or high stress corners it was making a sound that I could not figure out. But being that it is hybrid with all kinds of different systems running it may be something as simple as the stability control actuating or clutches working to put more power to one wheel over another or something to that effect. I hope it's not the sound of structural stress. That would be bad.
After the 918 goes against the toiota gtr ,turbo naturallly aspirated,dohc ohv hemi LS ,jdm usdm, it will be eating the toiota gtr ,turbo naturallly aspirated,dohc ohv hemi LS ,jdm usdm's shit. nothing can beat the toiota gtr ,turbo naturallly aspirated,dohc ohv hemi LS ,jdm usdm.
I love these vids, but they miss half of the picture. I have a $300 mic on my $500 superzoom that pics up everything, in stereo. It's really easy to post edit in separately recorded sound and i wish they would do that with these cars so we could really hear what they sound like.
Proper Fast! Not Knocking the Nismo GT-R at all, but this car is better looking, in my opinion. Other people have commented on difference on price between the 918 and GT-R. I don't really care, I cant afford either, HAHA. This is my favorite out of the two.
the interior already looks outdated. The console screen has big edges or sides and is too small, even a half inch is huge on a screen so small. the couldn't put just a little chrome? the middle knobs look straight from 90's, the vents look atleast ten years old already. rear view mirror looks stupid. idk just looks like they could of done a much better job on the inside
when the p1 and laferrari was announced , everybody wrote the 918 off , it was too heavy , too slow , not enough power. Now its turned out to be the fastest of the lot , quite extraordinary. There is more to get from that turbo s though.
love bud the driver for the Porsche is a pro too... But my main point is, you realize we are comparing a $100k car to a $1m car.... The fact that a stock C7 Z06 has that kind of performance to compare to the Porsche 918 is *incredible*
The Porsche 918 Spyder beats the GTR Nismo by 6.3 seconds on this track. But on the Nurburgring it beats the Nismo by 11.68 seconds and that's over a 4 minute longer track. Interesting!!!
the nismo was tuned for the nordschleife run, normally the nismo does 7:18 on the nordschleife. the nissan racing team changed the camber, ride height, aero settings, tyre pressure, started with an almost empty tank etc. the normal gtr mk3 does 7:26 without that tweaking.
this series of uploads is the best thing a car channel on youtube has ever uploaded besides getaway in stockholm. the speedometer is showing miles right? ^^ just checking. I think this car is overpriced at all. They should just put the porsche v8 from the panamera which is in this car too into a 911.
Adam Dougherty yeah I mean they should make a mid engined v8 porsche without this ridiculous price tag and the bullshit. the v8 from the panamera will do.
New Z06 already broke this so called record. It is was by a GM driver but still faster with a manual trans not auto. Team Corvette does a lot of development here shouldn't be a surprise.
There were reports the GM test driver was using all the "new track" that was added over last winter (see the curbing in the middle of the track in Nascar Bend and Oak Tree?). Technically, this is perfectly "legal" but C&D didn't do it so their lap times would be comparable to previous years - otherwise every car tested this year would be faster than previous years. Additionally, the factory GM test driver (Jim Mero?) sets Corvette lap records day in and day out. Absolutely impressive that he beat the 918 time but I bet if Porsche sent over a factory test driver he'd beat it as well. C&D openly admits to only have 20-30 minutes in each car and doing the best they can with the time allotted. Still, it'd be interesting to see what these cars all run with factory drivers!
I did read the recent article of C&D. If I'm not mistaken 918 was run in May of last year here. Some others posts did say of so more upgrades were done at VIR. I see many have caught some feeling of this Z06 time. The Z28 vs GT R video I easily predicted it would happen only in auto not manual. There was a lot of back forth in that video of NISMO. Somewhere around September I made a comment of what Z06 would do at VIR. The ZR1 ran 2:45 something on older course.New Z06 has been fully upgraded. Results are to be expected. I have the magazine article. 918 had issues on the bumpy areas. It is why Z28 bested in some sections especially in 2. Team Camaro may come out and best that time too.
This car got 887hp but didn't sound as efficient as GTR Nismo through a corner. Even when the front motor engaged, the Rear produce more power and makes it a RWD car. The only way it grip is the Cup 2 and the Cup2 will grip in a different way after it heat up and after couple laps. The driver need to learn how it handle again and again.
Onoff314 less weight doesn;t mean faster at all. With wrong power to weight, the car just slide and power oversteer. Porsche 918 is a pure power house. Without the KERS, the car may be slower or barely quicker than the Turbo S Also 918 isn't 400kg lighter
Wow, compared to all the other cars, the 918 just attacks the switchbacks and sweepers with so much more aggression and verve! Guess that what another 300-400hp and nearly a million bucks gets you. Wish they had the P1 and LaF to compare it with.
The speed it carried the through the one minute corner was incredible !!
174 MPH down the front straight. 20 MPH faster than the next fastest. Insane!
This just looks amazingly stable. And of course fast.
What an amazing piece of automotive engineering. Breathtaking performance.
Oh my god that 918 is fast. I had no idea it was THIS fast. 6 seconds quicker than the nismo? On a track this small that's a huge gap. But that camaro is very impressive. For a $75k car to rival an f12 and a nismo is awesome.
But Gah damn that 918. . . It's a monster.
This car is the equivalent of a pin up girl. It's downright sexy!
I 2nd this....
***** I 3rd this
That it is but that McLaren "Widow Maker" is jaw dropping
Definitely my favorite out of all of these.
GT-R fanboys be like: "Its ONLY 6 seconds faster than the Nismo"
hahahaha you hit the nail :DD
and don't forget that "nismo 130000$, 918 800000$" bullshit :D
This car looks like its trying to eat as much road as possible. So freekin fast.
Even watching a video from inside the cabin, this thing looks absolutely TERRIFYING. And I LOVE it.
Watching K. C. in the 918 vs. Aaron in the Viper, Aaron is busting his butt trying to keep it on the track, where K.C. is almost out for a Sunday drive! He's working nowhere near as hard and turning a WAY faster lap.
Thank you, Porsche Engineering!
This is my absolute dream car. Seriously the most gorgeous supercar since the F40. And I might even think this is better looking.
It has definitely grown on me since I saw the first few shots of them. I love the dimensions and those wheels I would just have in black and good to go :)
Makes some beautiful sounds!
The only Porsche I would purchase!
Very predictable car.
***** , what is that ticking during hard cornering? Is that the yaw control?! If it is, that's really loud!
What I'm most impressed by is the lack of steering correction. Guess that rear wheel steering is really working, along with other things.
What is that clicking sound every time he does a hard turn?
possibly the equipment on board (gps, laptop and stuff) or sth. else in the doorbox.
i had sounds like these often when driving my old shitty golf 3 "fast" (110mph) on the autobahn and the surface was not very pleasing. some plastic shit in the doors always started to jingle.
Franklyn Johnson it's from its rear steering system, Porsche is looking into this issue
The grip is incredible. Even if the Nismo has the same HP I don't think it would be as fast on this track. Actually if any of these cars had the same HP it wouldn't be this fast on this track. Maybe in a straight line?
My ass was puckered the whole time, and I wasn't even driving! Lol. Damn that thing eats up pavement! So sick.
Holy shit im not one to say this often but FUCK that guy drove this monster well! hats off to you
Watching this after the WRX; which was 30 seconds slower, made me lol.
The steep pricetag aside, this is one of the more futuristic sportscar that money can buy.
The interior looks incredibly cool
The blazing speed is there combined with the clever AWD and endless acceleration from the hybrid powertrain, this is one lethal combination to bring down lap times.
One thing I wonder though, how will the P1 do? I think it should do better given its better downforce configuration and lighter weight. It does have a small battery, so full power may not be available throughout the lap.
Great points and a good mix of opinions I will say. Most are calling the 918 AWD which it's not.More like 4WD to a specific speed. The front and rear aren't connect by shaft and diff. Front E-motor only helps drive the front wheels. Front and rear only share battery usage and power. From what I have gathered front E-motor cuts at 165mph rendering it to 2WD. I original read front motor cut at 145 but it seems all has changed.
P1 battery charge claims seem to come of a lot. You are right to some degree P1 isn't really at full power. Reason being peak torque is cut from 723 to 664 ft-lbs.Based off a video I have seen of P1 power curve.From 0 rpm's E-motor jumps in full power mode till 4000 rpm's at max throttle. Once there peak torque is cut to 664 because turbos are now at full lit.Only after 7000 rpm does E-motor go into full power till redline or 8250. This is due to overall engine torque decreasing. Like Mclaren says torque fill. So basically at max throttle engine rpm's will never drop below 4000 rpm's allowing the E-motor to conserve overall battery power. Of course in slow or tight turns E-motor will adjust usage to the rpm levels.
The P1 only regens off throttle or under braking. No brakes are involved at all.E-motor is programmed to recover electrical power and send excess torque for batteries to keep power up.
The battery system is smaller then 918 but LaFerrari much smaller and lighter then P1.
This cheap, crappy video is way overexposed. It lacks proper graphics like RPM and speed. It lacks multiple camera angles and drone shots. Geezus, guys, can't you do better than making the guy in the accounting department slap his GoPro in the back of the car and hit record? How about some comments from the driver? Watch Motorweek's and even Motor Trend's videos and get schooled. Do the car justice.
I think it was a nice concept. Drive the hell out of it and see the lap time. Hear the car, from the inside and see the accouterments. I too like all of the data(I could watch tire temps, g-loads and pedal actuating all day) but this is a nice way to see basic differences between many nice cars.
172 mph through the start/finish straight...
Not to be disrespectful, but the unique sounding V8 sounds like a high revving 4 cylinder like from the Honda S2000.
Flat-plane crankshafts make V8's sound like that, commonly found in ferrari V8's 360, 430, 458.
***** The concept of the V8 engine originates from the LMP2 RS Spyder race car. It basically means Porche went full beast mode on this one. Ive heard that the cameras dont do it justice and neither do the stiffled ehausts. Look up that LMP2 car and hear what it could potentially sound like.
except that it's about 3x as loud^^
I am sure that if someone wanted to make an aftermarket non-muffled/baffled exhaust it would be just as loud. Emissions prevent Porche from doing that themselves
Lots of understeer, needs stickier tires.
Great job Car & Driver on another awesome Lightning Lap! I'm a subscriber and have enjoyed this event every year. -- The 918 showed just how incredible it really is. I hope you can convince McLaren next year to give you the P1, I would really like to see how it compares. I think it can give the 918 a run for its money!
Am i the only one that hears that popping noise( mainly heard on tight left turns)???
I was wondering the same thing. In high G or high stress corners it was making a sound that I could not figure out. But being that it is hybrid with all kinds of different systems running it may be something as simple as the stability control actuating or clutches working to put more power to one wheel over another or something to that effect. I hope it's not the sound of structural stress. That would be bad.
I don't know, all I heard in the GTR vid was tire squeal. Tire squeal galore. But still, the GTR is the fourth fastest ever in Lightning Lap history.
VTEC kicked in yo!
This is the one for me... smooth as silk sliding across ice!
After the 918 goes against the toiota gtr ,turbo naturallly aspirated,dohc ohv hemi LS ,jdm usdm, it will be eating the toiota gtr ,turbo naturallly aspirated,dohc ohv hemi LS ,jdm usdm's shit. nothing can beat the toiota gtr ,turbo naturallly aspirated,dohc ohv hemi LS ,jdm usdm.
I love these vids, but they miss half of the picture. I have a $300 mic on my $500 superzoom that pics up everything, in stereo. It's really easy to post edit in separately recorded sound and i wish they would do that with these cars so we could really hear what they sound like.
Proper Fast! Not Knocking the Nismo GT-R at all, but this car is better looking, in my opinion. Other people have commented on difference on price between the 918 and GT-R. I don't really care, I cant afford either, HAHA. This is my favorite out of the two.
I watched the lap in the Subaru before watching this. Bwahahaha WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! This beast is about 30 sec faster!
What is that ticking-knocking sound when steering wheel is turned left ?
the gps im thinking
that blue thing
the interior already looks outdated. The console screen has big edges or sides and is too small, even a half inch is huge on a screen so small. the couldn't put just a little chrome? the middle knobs look straight from 90's, the vents look atleast ten years old already. rear view mirror looks stupid. idk just looks like they could of done a much better job on the inside
Car looks very controllable compared to some of the others. The driver doesn't look like he is having to fight the wheel hardly at all.
Awesome sounding car, major power delivery. This driver seems a lot better driver than Nismo driver. Just saying
when the p1 and laferrari was announced , everybody wrote the 918 off , it was too heavy , too slow , not enough power. Now its turned out to be the fastest of the lot , quite extraordinary. There is more to get from that turbo s though.
Where´s McLaren650s, 458 Speciale, 610Lambo and Bugatti VeyronSS?
Use the spot metering mode in your camera next time please.
Was that 170 MPH on the straight? Jesus. The way it stops is unbelievable too.
Such a phenomenal car... a true demonstration of today's technology
that noise the car makes when he does a hard left hmmmmmm i would be confident in that
aaannndddd the Corvette C7 Z06 (stock) beat the 918 on this track... it recorded a time of 2:41 ... oh and it costs about $900k less :D
+Rich Homie Tom Bullshit
nsxtreme1 look up the video, it's on UA-cam
love bud the driver for the Porsche is a pro too... But my main point is, you realize we are comparing a $100k car to a $1m car.... The fact that a stock C7 Z06 has that kind of performance to compare to the Porsche 918 is *incredible*
love bud yeah it's crazy lol hopefully someday I'll own one myself
+Rich Homie Tom damn American cars are stepping up their game.
The engine sounds like a Cosworth F1 V8 from the 70's!
im amazed it didnt burst into flames........................... too early haha
The Porsche 918 Spyder beats the GTR Nismo by 6.3 seconds on this track. But on the Nurburgring it beats the Nismo by 11.68 seconds and that's over a 4 minute longer track. Interesting!!!
the nismo was tuned for the nordschleife run, normally the nismo does 7:18 on the nordschleife. the nissan racing team changed the camber, ride height, aero settings, tyre pressure, started with an almost empty tank etc.
the normal gtr mk3 does 7:26 without that tweaking.
This car could have gone a lot quicker with a pro driver
Nice driving there and damn that race track, never seen it before.
i wish there was a track in my country but fuk it so fuking sucks
Damn.... this beauty has a brutal acceleration !
9000 rpm! Sounds awesome! What a machine!
and a hard right theres this creaking noise....
Amazing! but it better be.... Its 1 Million dollers....... give or take.....
too expensive. bring back the 944 turbo for the blue collar working class ya snobs!
Joe Barone good frigging idea .
Blowing apexs like a BOSS!
this series of uploads is the best thing a car channel on youtube has ever uploaded besides getaway in stockholm.
the speedometer is showing miles right? ^^ just checking. I think this car is overpriced at all. They should just put the porsche v8 from the panamera which is in this car too into a 911.
Its actually a V8 from a Le Mans prototype, and 911's have been,and will always be H6 power-plants.
Adam Dougherty yeah I mean they should make a mid engined v8 porsche without this ridiculous price tag and the bullshit. the v8 from the panamera will do.
Dam this sounded horrible.
What a beautiful steering wheel.
What was the creaking noise?
New Z06 already broke this so called record. It is was by a GM driver but still faster with a manual trans not auto. Team Corvette does a lot of development here shouldn't be a surprise.
There were reports the GM test driver was using all the "new track" that was added over last winter (see the curbing in the middle of the track in Nascar Bend and Oak Tree?). Technically, this is perfectly "legal" but C&D didn't do it so their lap times would be comparable to previous years - otherwise every car tested this year would be faster than previous years. Additionally, the factory GM test driver (Jim Mero?) sets Corvette lap records day in and day out. Absolutely impressive that he beat the 918 time but I bet if Porsche sent over a factory test driver he'd beat it as well. C&D openly admits to only have 20-30 minutes in each car and doing the best they can with the time allotted. Still, it'd be interesting to see what these cars all run with factory drivers!
I did read the recent article of C&D. If I'm not mistaken 918 was run in May of last year here. Some others posts did say of so more upgrades were done at VIR. I see many have caught some feeling of this Z06 time. The Z28 vs GT R video I easily predicted it would happen only in auto not manual. There was a lot of back forth in that video of NISMO. Somewhere around September I made a comment of what Z06 would do at VIR. The ZR1 ran 2:45 something on older course.New Z06 has been fully upgraded. Results are to be expected. I have the magazine article. 918 had issues on the bumpy areas. It is why Z28 bested in some sections especially in 2.
Team Camaro may come out and best that time too.
Brendan Bogue This lap is after the repave as well.
Why aren't you showing the speed? Boring!
why aren't you going full screen fullhd and just read it from the screen?
awesome handling
Jesus....
No Weissach Pkg??
nope, it's without. can tell by the rims, the roof and missing sideblades.
It sounds like a really awesome Integra!
let a true german take the wheel. then you will see her true potential
tripleheshy Vettel?
Themayseffect for exemple
This car got 887hp but didn't sound as efficient as GTR Nismo through a corner. Even when the front motor engaged, the Rear produce more power and makes it a RWD car. The only way it grip is the Cup 2 and the Cup2 will grip in a different way after it heat up and after couple laps. The driver need to learn how it handle again and again.
SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT? DID IT NEEDED 542534 PS TO CORNET AND EXPLODE OR WHAT??
GLR What the fuck? No need for billion extra hp. get the gearing+ power to weight correct, it'll blow off from the corner
ROCKETGUN BOOMBS Huh? you do realise this car weighs 400KG less than a GTR< has better tyres and would pull way higher corner entry and exit speeds.
Onoff314 less weight doesn;t mean faster at all. With wrong power to weight, the car just slide and power oversteer. Porsche 918 is a pure power house. Without the KERS, the car may be slower or barely quicker than the Turbo S Also 918 isn't 400kg lighter
i`m surprised the amount of BS you are posting fits in the commentbox.
However... I'll take the Nissan GTR Nismo every day ;)
Over a 918 spyder......what
Then you need help.
Matt R C
Than?
Jonas Rosenven
Better?
Matt R C
I think it's great!