How to Stop Ruminating (ROCD Course Masterclass)

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  • Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
  • In this ROCD Course Masterclass Kiyomi goes over rumination with ROCD/anxiety, what it looks like, why it happens and how to start working with it.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 84

  • @annikasenebald1177
    @annikasenebald1177 3 роки тому +55

    I'm hoping someone on here will be able to relate to me. Sometimes I hear songs about breakups and changed feelings and it sends me into a spiral of rumination, like is this how I feel? And my brain tells me that if it hits me that hard then my relationship must not be right. But I don't want to leave my fiance, so the rumination cycle intensifies until I'm crippled and can't find a way out.

    • @loudumaz7823
      @loudumaz7823 3 роки тому +8

      Hi babe. I was in your situation. It’s so much work but I swear to god it worth the wait. Rocd it’s me now with something else because I am hypersensitive but I didn’t have a doubt on my love for my partner since 6 months! You can do it I swear if my little sad and hypersensitive ass could you can!

    • @mrblack8447
      @mrblack8447 3 роки тому +1

      @@loudumaz7823 hey I’m currently suffering from rOCD and sometimes I feel like there’s no hope, I’ve been with my girlfriend for 4 years now and had problems for at least 2, the rOCD gets better and worse but doesn’t go away, how did you deal with it?

    • @loudumaz7823
      @loudumaz7823 3 роки тому +5

      @@mrblack8447 i accept it ! This is the most important thing to do

    • @ExploreSumore
      @ExploreSumore 2 роки тому +2

      Watch this video and take notes. It explains why you are doing this

    • @maybug88
      @maybug88 2 роки тому

      @@loudumaz7823 how did you do it?

  • @julie4938
    @julie4938 3 роки тому +24

    I legit thank the universe for your existence, you and Alexis. Its so good to use this as a guided distancing tool to let go of my ruminating thoughts. Thank you!❤

  • @pgdaisy
    @pgdaisy 3 роки тому +41

    Could you please talk about intrusive thoughts that don't come as questions, such as: He bores me. I don't like him. I don't love him. I don't want to be in this relationship anymore. ?

    • @nimzie8263
      @nimzie8263 3 роки тому +8

      I have theeeeeeseee it feels like my heart is saying it and not my mind....

    • @SoLastYear
      @SoLastYear 3 роки тому +23

      Approach it with sarcasm! Say something back, like yeah, soooo boring, aha, totally. And then just ignore it. Do it every single time, don't let yourself react to it. This advice helped me incredibly! I saw a big improvement just in a couple weeks! 😊

    • @nimzie8263
      @nimzie8263 3 роки тому

      @@SoLastYear thanks I will try

    • @nimzie8263
      @nimzie8263 3 роки тому +1

      @@SoLastYear 🥰

    • @SoLastYear
      @SoLastYear 3 роки тому +18

      @@nimzie8263 I came out of this and so can you, just don't give up. You cannot control your thoughts and feelings but you can control how you are reacting to it. So just roll your eyes to these thoughts and feelings. And do it every time when thoughts come, it is just your brain's coping mechanism. So you just need reprogram it. Keep doing it every minute every day. I had these thoughts. Now have waaay less 😊

  • @asmazouaoui9022
    @asmazouaoui9022 3 роки тому +5

    it's crazy how when you talk about rumination it's like you're reading my minds

  • @IreneT1210
    @IreneT1210 3 роки тому

    Thank you for putting up this video on UA-cam!

  • @1nfinite3nd
    @1nfinite3nd 3 роки тому

    Wow...this resonated so so so deeply. Thank you.

  • @dldiane117
    @dldiane117 2 роки тому

    This video has given me more insight about rumination than most of the other UA-cam videos I’ve seen.

  • @deelighted1460
    @deelighted1460 3 роки тому +3

    As I watched this video I did exactly what you were saying and thought about how much time I spend ruminating and all the other stuff. When I realized how much time I spent like that suddenly I felt realy overwhelmed, tears just came to my eyes and I started crying. I can feel that now Im on a good way to get out of this. Thank you for making these videos and doing all this work it realy makes a change and it helped me a lot❤️

  • @raven7061
    @raven7061 3 роки тому

    As always, thank you SO much. You’re such an inspiration, Kiyomi. I hope to bring the same loving grace you have into the work that I do. 🙏🤍✨

  • @Blank_sp8ce1234
    @Blank_sp8ce1234 3 роки тому +1

    Watched this masterclass after a sleepless night, but having a nutritious breakfast to get back on track. Thanks again, Kyomi. Your insight and introspection is invaluable 💪🏻

  • @theoboldt007
    @theoboldt007 3 роки тому +10

    Been doing really well for months now, and it's creeping back again. This video was really key for me again to realise actually what is going on and why in my brain. Seeing it as a scientific way as well it really puts it into perspective, and that I have the choice not to get caught in rumination. It sounds easier than it is, but not impossible. You've helped me so much the last year and more, and thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the support and information. You are a true blessing! Greetings from Sweden! 😊

  • @ReshiramMage1992
    @ReshiramMage1992 3 роки тому +9

    Ive been doing this for years now in my relationship... 😞 the past 4 months has been hard. Non stop testing my feelings, making me think of the bad part in my past, I am scared of the future.. making me believe I that I don’t love my partner....
    I always talk to my friends about the same thing over and over again...

    • @mrblack8447
      @mrblack8447 3 роки тому +1

      Hey, how are you guys doing now?

  • @joaovaz4305
    @joaovaz4305 3 місяці тому

    Thank you! This helped me so much 😊🙏🏼 I’m very grateful for you and this channel, you make my life better! ❤

  • @pinkhellokitty.dreams
    @pinkhellokitty.dreams 6 місяців тому

    Dear Kiyomi, I will never thank you enough for creating this channel and making these videos. Because of your knowledge and strength, I have a feeling that I will achieve healing in no time. I’ve experienced ROCD ever since I met my boyfriend, but just about a year it started to become more vivid and strong due to thoughts of false memory cheating. I have good and bad days. On my good days my mind barely reminds me of these thoughts and when they come up, I am able to just observe my thoughts and not react to them, but on the bad days, I tend to ruminate so much, I try to problem solve, use common sense, use logic against my thoughts but, I still DON’T find an answer, I still don’t get the answer I’m looking for, whether or not I did this, whether or not this happened, whether or not I was capable of cheating, etc etc. I never knew how much ruminating had an impact on OCD until this video, and I also didn’t realize how much time I spent ruminating on those bad days. It feels like a never ending cycle! Rumination definitely gives a sense of comfort and it’s so addictive! I feel like by ruminating, I problem solve; I’ll find my answer but at the end of the day it always ends up getting me even more stuck and makes the thoughts and feelings more real and strong. I’m currently jobless right now, but as soon as I get money I will subscribe to your course! I want to awaken into love, but for now I will enjoy your videos here in UA-cam which I truly thank you for posting.
    Sending you love, gratitude and peace from Washington ❤

  • @MOON-pe4jm
    @MOON-pe4jm 2 роки тому

    I don't cry alot. But when I get in the way of the thoughts with videos like this then I cry.

  • @hengamehghadarjani3769
    @hengamehghadarjani3769 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks angel ❤

  • @timothymelbinger4089
    @timothymelbinger4089 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much.

  • @nimzie8263
    @nimzie8263 3 роки тому +13

    It takes me to imagine past situation with my boyfriend and whenever I touch him in imagination, I feel this rush of rebellion from my mind. All his cuteness seems flaw and people ask me to breakup and what I fear is it feels so convincing. My brain says whenever m on a video call with my bf " What if he breaks up with me won't that be good " Then I feel so guilty. I feel m faking all of this when I say him I love u or tell anyone that I love him. I start doubting it. I unconsciously started writing - " I loved him but this this happened " Then I feel more guilty coz I already talk in past tense.

    • @nimzie8263
      @nimzie8263 3 роки тому +1

      @UCW6EeKyOPlfg_3fVNWvR9UQ for me its totally different, it developed front the fear of losing this guy who treats me like a gem.

    • @miramare1991
      @miramare1991 3 роки тому +1

      been there done it over and over and over again. you are not alone

    • @christinas.3461
      @christinas.3461 3 роки тому +1

      Same 😔 I always say to myself that I would finally feel free without him or that I’m missing out on something else and then I feel so ashamed and fearful

    • @keschmesch
      @keschmesch 3 роки тому +1

      Sameeee😔

  • @World.21
    @World.21 3 роки тому

    Yay a new upload😍! First!!

  • @theymacrypto
    @theymacrypto 3 роки тому +3

    I am not trying to find an answer or gain certainty when I ruminate. So, I couldn't relate to that aspect. I just have the memories and they just endlessly replay and I know there is next to nothing I can do about it.

  • @licaleu5784
    @licaleu5784 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much. How do u cope with sadness and the feeling of hopelessness? Often times I feel very hopeless and it's hard to get further.

  • @rheaalphons8953
    @rheaalphons8953 3 роки тому +1

    Love this ❤️

    • @jokerhaha3620
      @jokerhaha3620 3 роки тому

      is it normal to get anxious or uncomfortable when you experience good days and doubt on if you even have Rocd or am i obsessing too long, do i even do my compulsive behaviours enough? where has my rocd gone?

    • @rheaalphons8953
      @rheaalphons8953 3 роки тому +1

      @@jokerhaha3620 yes it's normal. Be happy you're not having anxiety !

    • @jokerhaha3620
      @jokerhaha3620 3 роки тому +1

      @@rheaalphons8953 thank you, even not experiencing much intrusive thoughts or not noticing them as much?😅

    • @rheaalphons8953
      @rheaalphons8953 3 роки тому

      @@jokerhaha3620 that's great! Stay kind to yourself ❤️

  • @sheajohnson7037
    @sheajohnson7037 3 роки тому +10

    hi kiyomi (: I don't know if its possible but can you talk about how being in certain places/seasons can bring about those old feelings of ROCD? I've been doing good for about 4 months but with the seasons changing I find myself starting to obsess and have those similar feelings I did when my ROCD started.

    • @miramare1991
      @miramare1991 3 роки тому +2

      maybe its just ROCD coming and going.when i started doing some techniques that helped me i would be doing good for a week but it would come back. then i would be doing good for 2 weeks, then for a month, then for 2 months, but it would come back, less intens tho, but still anoying.

    • @jokerhaha3620
      @jokerhaha3620 3 роки тому +1

      is it normal to get anxious or uncomfortable when you experience good days and doubt on if you even have Rocd or am i obsessing too long, do i even do my compulsive behaviours enough? where has my rocd gone? i been doin good for a few days but i get a thought or triggered for a moment but it not as bad as last year where i was anxious all day everyday with so many doubts!

    • @sheajohnson7037
      @sheajohnson7037 3 роки тому +2

      @@jokerhaha3620 yes it is normal! and remember if you have to constantly wisdom yourself if it’s ROCD, then it is!

    • @kristinamatthews4863
      @kristinamatthews4863 3 роки тому

      maybe google metaphysical contamination. that is something I used to struggle with!

  • @jokerhaha3620
    @jokerhaha3620 3 роки тому +9

    guys out there with Rocd, do you guys also doubt the feeling and sensations during sex and get so many thoughts said “it wasnt good enough, it dont feel amazing ect” which makes me feel so guilty having them and hard to enjoy sex with my partner

    • @KC-iy8xh
      @KC-iy8xh 3 роки тому +1

      Yes sometimes, mostly bc i havnt bonded enough with them due to Long distance

    • @miramare1991
      @miramare1991 3 роки тому +1

      oh yes

  • @carriecanfield218
    @carriecanfield218 3 роки тому

    I'm really new to all of this and I do this a lot.....so ruminating (looking for answers)...is bad because it's so compulsive? Also because we will never get that "complete assurance/answer"?

  • @sophie4771
    @sophie4771 3 роки тому +1

    so like when you say ruminate is it ruminating when youre saying to yourself " no you dont feel that way with your ex because you love your partner and your partner loves you and calm down because everybody feels this ways its just rocd" is that still ruminating? im so lost someone help me please

  • @jokerhaha3620
    @jokerhaha3620 3 роки тому +4

    is it normal to get anxious or uncomfortable when you experience good days and doubt on if you even have Rocd or am i obsessing too long, do i even do my compulsive behaviours enough? where has my rocd gone?

    • @ashalvarez5306
      @ashalvarez5306 Рік тому

      this is such an old comment but i just wanna say yes i think it’s normal. i recently have been going through that. how are you doing now?

  • @alexgreen1913
    @alexgreen1913 3 роки тому +1

    Sometimes I feel like If I see a title of a UA-cam video its a sign or something.

  • @celinehopper277
    @celinehopper277 3 роки тому +2

    When the thoughts kick in telling me I don’t really love my partner anymore or that our relationship is doomed because I don’t feel about him the way I used to (not missing him, not the urge to cuddle as I used to have, sex drive gone down etc.), I tend to tell myself “but remember when you’re together you’re always laughing and smiling, that gotta mean something” is that the wrong thing to do because I’m reassuring myself? I sometimes even tell my friends the same thing “I don’t feel the same way, but I’m still happy” and put in an example. Should I stop doing that?
    This is not for reassuring purposes, I just wanna know if I’m giving rocd more power with this and if there’s something else I should be doing instead

    • @celinehopper277
      @celinehopper277 3 роки тому

      MsJbreezyy thank you so much for answering! I realised that my anxiety doesn’t go away and that I always reassure myself instead of giving in to the feeling. I will use this technique from now on, just gotta be more aware of how I react because I do the reassuring automatically most of the time. Thank you so much! :)

    • @FluteGal89
      @FluteGal89 2 роки тому

      @MsJbreezyy this has helped me a lot and I only get occasional “spells” here and there, but it’s much less now compared to the past

    • @lamelomane1656
      @lamelomane1656 2 роки тому

      What was the response? How did you deal with that?

  • @Harz77
    @Harz77 3 роки тому +1

    This video is really confusing for me. I’m dating a girl for the first time I liked everything about her and she ticked every box. But recently I’ve been trying to pick holes and in a sense put a barrier of why I don’t like her. I convince myself that much that I don’t like her and I get upset and it really affects my mood. It’s not fair on her. So why am I thinking all these things, I’m not using rumination to feel safe. It comes in my head and I can’t stop it! Even when I ruminate it doesn’t make me at ease.

    • @Harz77
      @Harz77 3 роки тому

      To follow on from this, this video makes me think I’m sure I don’t like her. But is that to protect myself? I know she’s so good and in a sense was everything I was looking for but why is my brain putting me off. Why am I convinced I don’t like her?

  • @dolores9886
    @dolores9886 3 роки тому

    Hi, I am so thank full for your vlogs! I am struggling with OCD as well. I have this obsession with being single. In my mind it's to early to settle down already, sometimes I want to be free and single and hook up with other guys. I don't know what to do anymore. I love him, but I "need" to be single to become independent and do whatever I want. It makes me feel SO anxious and I am already struggling with this for one year now. I am so confussed. Is this me, society? If I stay, do I do that for my parents & friends? Or because I love him? Could you please help me?

    • @katerinadl6797
      @katerinadl6797 3 роки тому

      Oh god i thought I was the one who wrote this... I am sure you will beat this.. Its not easy but it gets better.. Just when ruminating thoughts pop up, transfer your interest in an other domain..

    • @MrSirGonza
      @MrSirGonza 2 роки тому

      Dolores, I happen to be in the exact same situation, so just know that you're not alone. It's such a horrible feeling, and believe me I know it. My situation is a little bit more complicated even because the girl I feel I love went away to a different country, so now I'm stuck in the rumination of not only "do I wanna be in a relationship?", but also I don't know what to do about the time and distance. I sometimes say to myself I'll visit her (because she is not able to come back), but then the mind comes and says "do you really wanna see her?", which leaves me feeling numb, which makes me wonder why do I keep hanging on to this kind of long-distance (waiting) relationship. My life right now is hell.

  • @baifanzhou8074
    @baifanzhou8074 3 роки тому

    My rumination makes me accept the idea of a break up :( but I never do it so I never get an answer

    • @carlypearlcoaching
      @carlypearlcoaching 3 роки тому +1

      ocd will make you feel like you need an answer for everything so being comfortable in uncertainty is the only way to get an "answer" ❤️

  • @AProbablyPostman
    @AProbablyPostman 3 роки тому +1

    Ugh my ruminations make me feel even worse

  • @Ponypie342
    @Ponypie342 3 роки тому

    ❤️

  • @ekaterinag.1707
    @ekaterinag.1707 3 роки тому

    100%

  • @christophersasser896
    @christophersasser896 3 роки тому

    I’m only 16 and I have rocd. My dad died when I was younger and I will not give up on girlfriend but in another video it says to get therapy and help but I can’t to be healed so I’m screwed

    • @licaleu5784
      @licaleu5784 3 роки тому +2

      Rocd can be healed. It's your choice to go for the right steps towards recovery. You have the potential to be healthy and happy again.

    • @sweet_nerds73
      @sweet_nerds73 3 роки тому

      hey, I'm with ya buddy. I'm 16 as well and I can't exactly go to therapy either but it's our choice to continue with our love for our partner. I have hope that it will get better and these feelings and thoughts will somehow dissolve if we put in the work for it. Don't give up.

    • @alexandra-pd7hd
      @alexandra-pd7hd Рік тому

      @@sweet_nerds73 hey, how did that go for you? please respond bcs i m 16 and really hopeless

  • @nimzie8263
    @nimzie8263 3 роки тому +1

    Can rumination also give clarity that I want to breakup when I actually don't
    Can it cause me to get annoyed, hate and wanting to breakup with my boyfriend because I feel nothing but numb?

    • @keschmesch
      @keschmesch 3 роки тому +5

      Yes yes yes - you have to be patience. Take your time, try to meditate. I likow that the feeling is so bad you can do it. You feel numb because you are so stressed and you body tries protecting you.

    • @nimzie8263
      @nimzie8263 3 роки тому

      @@keschmesch it's so tiring
      M just sitting in the hospital
      I weigh 33 kgs , I lost weight

    • @nimzie8263
      @nimzie8263 3 роки тому

      @@keschmesch I will fight this evil out

    • @keschmesch
      @keschmesch 3 роки тому +2

      Nimzie i am sorry :( i was in the hospital too when i didnt know that i had ocd. You will get better. You will get trough this, i swear. Just dont argue or fight with your thoughts. It will be hard but if i can do it, you can too♥️ ali greymond is an other excellent youtuber, she helped me a lot. You should ckeck her out. I wish you the best and patience.

    • @nimzie8263
      @nimzie8263 3 роки тому

      @@keschmesch thanks a lot
      Yes I checked :)