Sony absolutely DESPISES and ABUSES their most loyal consumers. After 30+ years of supporting this train wreck, I'm done. See our G4 unboxing video (and video description) for details.
haven't looked for a TV for about a dozen years. this video clarifies a very complicated (to me) sea of acronyms and will help me make an informed choice. excellent video.
I've been listening to your videos for over a year, you helped me successfully choose my living room tv and I particularly like how you didn't over complicate this video break down. Straight to the main points and easy to follow. Well done
Now I have the tools to sort out all this mess. I don't care about thickness nor do I watch from extreme angles, but I do have a budget so mini-LED backlighting seems like a good compromise. This is the first video of yours I've seen and you've packed a ton of good information in and organized it well, putting everything into good context. Magnificent.
Hi fomo. Hope you and your family fine. Thanks for the video. Looking forward to the shootout. Not for what it is but what you and brian make it userfriendly , very knowledgeable and funfilled. Thanks a lot.
Thank you, everyone who's not a tech nerd should save this video for future reference when tv shopping. You truly simplified a lot of tv types confusion.
Wow you really gave a really clear explanation there's so many different videos I watched and I didn't understand anything you're talking about you were clear and concise walking down to the common person.
I have an ancient 2011 LED edge lit 3D Sharp TV that's keeps going and going. That thing has been on for an average of 16 hours a day, every day since I got it in 2011. Still looks great, but has been relegated to bedroom use. Wonder if newer TV's will last that long?
I also have a Sharp Aquos TV, 65" and I got it in 2011. Never new when I bought it that it was going to be such a good TV! It's still working great. The older CRT TV's didn't last near as long and had terrible pictures. Today all the TV's sound complicated and when I eventually have to get a new one, I just want to know what the best top 3 ones are.
i went with the lg c4 77" and i love it i could sit down on any of my sofas and color brightness and shading are phenomenal!!!! thank you! really wanted the g4 but price was a little over my budget since i also go the lg surround sound!!
I wish that you would have addressed the possibility of OLED burn in for certain users. My professionally calibrated LG E7 has finally shown this. I can’t complain too much after this many years, but I tend to keep my TVs for a fairly long time (there’s still a Pioneer 600m Kuro in the basement). My use case still has quite a bit of SDR cable and streaming, so processing is extremely important. To be fair, both you, Brian, and others address this in your detailed reviews. So, the 65” E7 will find a new home, and replacement contenders are the 85 inch Bravia 9, one of the remaining X95Ls, or possibly the new LG QNED 90T. I’m eagerly awaiting the results of this weekend’s upcoming shootout. If the Hisense U9N ever hits the market and gets a timely review, I’ll consider it, as well as the Samsungs. I was tempted by last year’s Hisense UX at this year’s blow out price but I’ll hold out. Keep up the good work.
LED can burn in as well, just has a lower chance. The damn things aren't built to last 10+ years anymore, whichever tv you buy will probably fail before you have burn in issues OLED or not. Also modern OLED's don't have a burn in issue unless you're watching something like CNN 24/7 with their silly banner.
I have C6 with no burn in but it does have a weird vertical bar that is only visible on light backgrounds- I also have a C1 83 that has terrible venetian blinding that looks like complete crap in the greys - I get mad while watching it all the time.
Cool take on things, very informative. I just bought a 2024 Sony Bravia 7 65" (Australia). Coming from a Samsung mu8000 55", had I had the choice, of the two back in 2018, I would of went with the Sony all day everyday. I've watched a few other post's of your's, learning heaps, thanks👍❤️😁
I am on a super budget. Recently, I upgraded my 40" 1080P Samsung to the 50" 4K Samsung DU7200 for only $329 on sale at Best Buy. It's edge-lit but not all that thin. Oddly enough, the back panel does get warm, but not at the edges, it's warm in the center. But, even if it lasts half as long as the other TV's you mentioned, it's 1/3 the price. I'm 74 and collecting social security so my income is limited and I got what I could afford.
Which 55-inch TV should I buy as a sports and movie fan (no gaming)? I don't have the space for a larger TV, so anything above 55 inches is out of the question. I want to try Sony, but the reviews for the Bravia 8 are mixed.
Great thorough breakdown of the different technologies. In a future video, maybe you can discuss OLED burn-in. I understand this issue isn’t as bad as it used to be but I’m interested in the risk of burn-in for the current TVs.
@@wht80vetteit’s this simple: don’t watch the same thing or play the same games for more than 8 hours at a time. If the images are varied, and you don’t use maximum brightness at all times, the built-in pixel refreshers will prevent image retention or burn in. Yeah it sucks that you actually have to take care of your expensive equipment, but it’s almost like a sports car.
your analysis is impeccable and so helpful. For my own part, I mostly watch tv in a darkened room but sometimes its a saturday afternoon matinee. Given that scenario, I need the LCD with all the bells and whistles. OLED kicks it on quality but it becomes questionable in a room that has significant light from the windows. Do I want OLED, well sure for the quality, but because my home is my home and not a dedicated theater, LCD wins. Compromises, we all make them. And that is where I have to go. Thanks for helping me sort it out.
I've noticed that the 800C, amongst other Samsungs, but mostly the 8K models, have visible LEDs. i.e. you can actually see the LEDs and their location. Pure junk. Mostly noticeable when blue is on screen, like a blue sky.
I bought a 77 inch LG C3 oled for 2000$ + a cashback of 500$. I'm very happy with that decision. It was a steal. But it's always the risk of burn in. I hope that doesn't become an issue for at least 6 years
The best breakdown on UA-cam. You helped me a few years ago when I was shopping for myself, and now I am researching for a family member, and once again you are totally clutch. Thank you!
Thank you, the FOMO review helped me with my Sony x95L, because I use it with my computer and don't want to risk burning the image. FOMO said that it doesn't have to happen, but according to rtings test, reddit, LG G3 had a burn-in problem. As a monitor, OLED is still a risk and it was confirmed by LG itself that this is not covered by the warranty, I reached out to LG and they wrote me back. That for my use OLED is not a good idea and I should choose another TV or another brand.
They specifically said you cannot take there test as evidence for that. It’s WAYYYYY too small a sample size. Just because 1 or a couple tvs had a problem doesn’t indicate something being a widespread issue.
I’m LG 65” E7/C1 OLED now, but TCL’s QN851G at 98” is tempting for a living-room upgrade. 83” v 98” and next year’s TCL 115” as a possibility makes things super hard. I fell in love with OLED because of the blacks, but TCL proves mini-LED is doing blacks justice now. Thoughts FOMO & FOMO fam?
I live on the east coast of Florida and was without grid power for 40 hours after Milton passed thru. I have solar with 2 power walls that kept me in power the whole time. I did back off on usage - rose the AC temperature etc. even so the daytime was providing about 10 times less energy and the batteries did not get to full charge before sundown. Point is - I would not have lasted much longer unless I got some decent sunlight. Best advantage of the power walls is that my power never glitched- I only knew power was out because the app said so…
Some points like actual color will look much better on a QD mini led over oled. Sony best oled colors are incredible but the whites look washed like grayish. LED will last longer than OLED and will not suffer from image burn. As for gaming the s90d is 144 refresh not 120. There is just so many options
Thank you for all the detailed information. I mainly use my TV/Monitor as a PC display and upgrade whenever Nvidia releases their fastest Video Card. When the 2080ti came out, I bought a new 65" 8 Series Samsung 4K TV (It can only do 120hz at 1440p back then, but no game can run 4K smoothly anyway). Then when the 3090 came out, I went with a Samsung Neo G9 47". After that, I purchased a Samsung Neo G9 57" when the 4090 came out. Now the 5090 is about to come out and I really want to go back to using a big 65" 4k display. I always wanted an OLED display and appreciate the picture quality compared to all my previous VA panels. This time I purchased a Samsung S95D QD OLED 65" as my main PC display. PC Games on this display are going to look amazing. It's still in the box and going to mount it on the wall and set it up as my computer display later today. This TV/Monitor should serve me well for the next couple of years until it's time to change again.
When comparing Rtings's reviews for the Sony non mini-LED X90L with the Hisense U8N and TCL 2024 QM8, I'd still go with the Sony. After comparing the Rtings reviews, I'm still satisfied with my X90L even though it might have more blooming and its highlights might not get as bright because of its accuracy and the various other areas of importance to me it excels in all at once. I got my Sony 85-inch X90CL from Costco for $2,000 in December of 2023 and even after checking out Rting's reviews of the 2024 offerings, I couldn't be happier about how the Sony X90CL falls perfectly within that sweetspot of performance, size, and price. I still wait for its rival within this sweetspot, but none of the reviews have revealed such results at this moment.
@@stopthefomo It depends on what's more important I guess. For this price range, if deep black levels, minimal blooming, and extra bright specular highlights are most important, then the Hisense U8N and TCL 2024 QM8 would be the way to go. If pre-calibration color accuracy, shadow detail, gradient handling, and PQ EOTF tracking are more important, then for the price, I prefer the Sony X90L from 2023 which is still being carried over. At this price, we have to pick our poison. If money was no object, I'd have a Sony 85-inch Bravia 9 on one cart and a 77-inch Sony A95L on the other cart. I'd choose which one to roll into my viewing area based on ambient lighting, time of day, what I'm watching, etc.. While not many of us can afford it including myself, having a Sony 85-inch Bravia 9 on one cart and a 77-inch Sony A95l on another cart is perfection. My reservations about the LG G4 is its less saturated color due to its WOLED panel.
According to the secret Sony service menu I've got over 25,000 hours on my X95K. It was a best buy open box so I guess it ran 24/7 but I've been using it heavily for over a year now with zero issue and for $800 I'm not complaining. An LCD made with quality capacitors in the power supply is going to give you your money's worth no doubt about it.
I've had the A90J for three years and could upgrade to any display but there isn't any logical reason to. It's bright enough for me and the picture is stellar.
@ it’s incredible for what I paid for it, even more so now at Black Friday pricing if they’re still available. The room it’s in is not very bright so I don’t have the brightness maxed out. Can’t say for certain if dimming on F1 or NFL would be an issue, which I watch both of. I’ve not noticed anything though.
FOMO - I can get the Samsung QN90C in 85" for $2k (government employee discount). Good deal? I have a large, bright room with lots of windows and the TV faces the lake (additional reflection/glare) so OLED is out of the question. I also do exactly ZERO gaming. Thanks.
Game Mode is good enough to prevent it as long as you're not playing the same game with the same static HUD that's too bright 24/7. Playing different games throughout the week will prevent burn-in risk and the G3/G4/G5 have a 5 yr panel replacement warranty against burn-in
I have been underwhelmed by my LG OLED C1 65 inch tv. Lately it is not been playing nice with my computer, I like to use it as a monitor when I play games. Worked fine for a while and all the sudden it refuses to recognize my PC as an input. Switching to qled
LG G5 has just completed dropped the MLA technology for some kind of 4 layer tech which they say is 30% brighter and more efficient. Panasonic back in the USA also is not using MLA and has a 4 layer tech. I have top of the line Panasonic plasma which was discontinued immediately thereafter and am thinking about the G4 but the differences between it and the G5 are not .00001 The G4 65 inch at Best Buy is 2799 I am guessing the G5 with their gen 2 processor in the same size will retail for 3499. Since I keep sets for so long should I wait? The cost will amortize over time. What say you if you had to choose 2024 G4 or 2025 G5 or Panasonic? Thank you in advance.
Great Video-- but I still need some help deciding? I have a den in my condo with no direct lighting sources that can't be eliminated. My TV will be 7.5 feet from my farthest viewing area--directly in front of the screen. I do no play video games--but I like movies and sports. I may be able to fit a 65" TV in the space--but 55" is more likely the correct size for the area. I was leaning towards the LG OLED B4 model but you intrigued me with the choice of the TCL QM8 mini-LED choice. Am I splitting hairs here or do I save some money and buy the TCL. BTW I am replacing a Vizio 50" 2007 LCD model. Love to hear your thoughts--Bill
Totally confused now lol 😅😅😅 I need a 75" or 77" TV. Don't mind spending between £1700 to £2700 stay in Scotland so the tv range might change a little. Be good if you have done any videos for the 75" I saw a Samsung think it was the 77s95C possibly. Thoughts on that or similar. Many thanks Ian.
QN90D samsung is another. S I still have the first 50" pioneer plasma TV that came with no speakers and cost me a little over 2k nearly 20 years ago lol. 😅 but I still an amazing TV. Picture quality is still up there I think. But would love some help choosing Many thanks and Happy New year. Ian
You failed to mention that OLEDs in ANY form or technology CAN'T SUSTAIN the brightness for a long time and the degrade more rapidly than LCD/LED TVs. Also, even the bright LG pales in a bright room environment , that IS the most common TV environment around the world
How bright of a room is bright? Are we talking just your normal ambient light from windows with the curtains closed or wide open windows and every available light turned on? I would think it's a relative term. For example, I live in a 2bdrm apt and my current old TV sits across from a big glass west facing sliding door to my balcony that has dark curtains that stay closed pretty much 24/7. Just opening them slightly creates a glare that's annoying. The only light entering the space is from light bleed around those curtains and ambient light from other parts of the apt; kitchen, bathroom, and bedroom windows that have closed vertical blinds.
@@droidattack2888 The edge lighted TVs are the most common to fail, or those that are always driven hard at max brightness. My experience in TV stations favors LCD TV for their durability and less processing to protect organic compounds that by nature degrades. Having gone through CRTs, PLASMAs and OLEDs, my preference and recommendations are still good LCDs. That could change if Microleds ever make it to the common public.
@@droidattack2888 I have 4 TVs in my house, an old Samsung 32' with CCFL tubes for backlight, a 40 "Samsung with LED backlight, a Panasonic 55" LED set with 360 backlight Comtrol and the main TV is a 75" Sony also with LED full array backlight. The older Samsung was the first Samsung sold in the USA with an ATSC-1 tuner. All are running as new, and I calibrated them. I have had experience with TVs since the late '40s as a rf Engineer and had experienced a lot of burn in since then. The first LCD TVs had a problem with the color filters that degraded with UV light from the backlight and the surrounding fluorescent lights. Manufactures solved this problem immediately. We use LCDs in our TV studios and production all around and OLEDs only for color grading under light-controlled venues. When someone ask me for advice on a TV, I ALWAYS ASK for their viewing environment and the majority of them aren't favorable for OLEDs, no matter what "experts" say.
Awesome information. We are buying a new TV for our living room and was going with the Sony Bravia but our couch is long so I need the OLED since I normally am regulated to the end of the sofa....hahahaha! Thank you so very much.
I thought leds to be pretty reliable which could last longer. But just sometime ago my sony x90j right part started blinking. I cant believe tv that costs so much could have such problem
People's that leave comments like I watch the new, sports, and its on in the back round, or my room is very bright. Just get a mini led but in no way are you actually trying to watch tv the best way possible. Local dimming zones and bright rooms will never have the best hdr picture. Whats to argue about and be confused about. I never get that depth that oled and qd oled give me.
hi, i am eyeing on Samsung QN900D 85inch, LG C4 83inch, or bravia 9 85inch. Viewing distance is about 10f away from the TV, the largest TV that i can fit is 85inch. I am not a gamer and we are watching movie and daily TV programme. Which one would you recommend for my setting?
OLED is a type LCD too, OLED is a lighting system just ike QLED. What OLED does is allow each pixels light to be completely switched off i.e. no light/jet black. QLED is a whiter light than normal LED and splits the screen into sections that can be dimmed independently - the more arrays (sections) the finer the dimming. My 4K Samsung QLED QE55Q9F computer monitor has 320 dimmable sections compared to 4K OLED has about 8 million sections (pixels)...Always get a Sony or Panasonic TV; they know about movies/cinema. My main TV is Pany TX-P65VT65 plasma...
OLED TV's are not LCD. The difference is an OLED TV LED's provide their own illumination thus negating the need for backlighting. The lighting "system" is not even remotely similar to a QLED TV.
Hey guy, due to financial issues all I can afford is a 500 to 600 range tv 65inch. What tv would u recommend it don't matter if its just a regular led TV but something with bright colors and deep blacks. I'm not sure if they even have anything in that price range and also with durability to last me for a while. Please help.
Recently bought TCL X955 after owning 3 OLED TVs earlier, 77” C1 being the last. Do I prefer the inky black from OLED, of course. But with the contrast control and size of the mini leds, easy choice. Now with 98” I would probably need a 100+ OLED to make the next switch.
Nice video FOMO with helpful info. Interesting that you say you would put the G4's and S95D's brightness up there with the Bravia 9. You should know since you've compared with the reference monitor 😃. Lots of folks still balk at OLED"s lack of full screen brightness compared to MiniLEDs and lower peak brightness (~1500nits OLED vs ~3000nits+ for MiniLeds). Are you saying that real world watching, the difference isn't that great?
Correct - full screen brightness (100% stimulus white) of the Bravia 9 is brighter but that does not exist in real content. The Bravia 9 is bright and arguably among the brightest on window stimulus tests but in real content the G4 and S95D match it scene for scene (65" size of course). ALSO, please remember that firmware updates may improve B9 performance or worsen OLED performance so things may change in 3 mnonths!
I am looking for a 100”to 120” tv I have looked at the Hisense U LED U8 Mini-LED versus the TCL Q LED ULTRA Q M8 QD Mini LED ULTRA so which is the best tv for shortness and color 2:03
@@t.k.morris Nope. A friend sent me some info on a BestBuy deal on a 65" S90C for $1169 a couple of days ago. It was very tempting but I have an issue that I have to resolve with my car first that I don't know how much will cost. While I probably have the funds to cover both, there's still the holiday shopping on the horizon plus air travel expense. The timing is not the best. So I had to miss out. I still have to stay with my '09 46" Samsung 8500. I have no plans to upgrade any time soon.
I have a 77 Sony A80J and I'm very happy with it!!!!! I stream Netflix,prime,etc. I also watch movies on blu ray and 4k blu rays!!! If I upgrade it will probably be a QD OLED 83 inch whenever they come out with it!!!! I wonder if the QD OLED is worth the upgrade????????
GREAT Breakdown...I'm looking for a 55" that's the great for Live Sports and Streaming . Looking for GOOD Upscaling as well with Good Viewing Angles . I don't game at all. Going from a Panasonic ST60 Plasma that still looks great....The Sony A95L
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Sony absolutely DESPISES and ABUSES their most loyal consumers. After 30+ years of supporting this train wreck, I'm done. See our G4 unboxing video (and video description) for details.
This is one hell of a breakdown Sir. Well done.
haven't looked for a TV for about a dozen years. this video clarifies a very complicated (to me) sea of acronyms and will help me make an informed choice. excellent video.
Having taken a dozen years please let us know which you decide on. I’ll check back in in 2030 to see if you have made up your mind
There you go I have something in common w this comment 10 years to buy another Sony tv 65 Bravia 7 good deal pricey & worth it ! Coming from 42 inch
I have never bought a tv in my life. Now im considering one. Definitely not oled. I want it to last at least 10 years
@ a Sony bro 😎 waited 9 years to purchased a Sony Bravia 7 65 2024 in from a Sony 48 2015 big difference.ill just be extra careful with kids around
I last bought a new TV in 2009. Usually I buy used or display models. Today I went with the Hisense U8 65 inch and I'm so excited.
I've been listening to your videos for over a year, you helped me successfully choose my living room tv and I particularly like how you didn't over complicate this video break down. Straight to the main points and easy to follow. Well done
Now I have the tools to sort out all this mess. I don't care about thickness nor do I watch from extreme angles, but I do have a budget so mini-LED backlighting seems like a good compromise.
This is the first video of yours I've seen and you've packed a ton of good information in and organized it well, putting everything into good context. Magnificent.
Hi fomo. Hope you and your family fine. Thanks for the video. Looking forward to the shootout. Not for what it is but what you and brian make it userfriendly , very knowledgeable and funfilled. Thanks a lot.
thank you my friend!!
Thanks for creating these educational videos! Love it- very helpful.
Thanks for your support!!
Thank you, everyone who's not a tech nerd should save this video for future reference when tv shopping. You truly simplified a lot of tv types confusion.
Best video ever from a consumer point of view on TV's.
I have a 77" Samsung S89C QD-OLED and I'm not buying any other kind of TV until microLED becomes affordable for the mass market.
Thanks!
Wow you really gave a really clear explanation there's so many different videos I watched and I didn't understand anything you're talking about you were clear and concise walking down to the common person.
TCL said its coming out with mini LED panels next year which will further improve viewing angles.
I have an ancient 2011 LED edge lit 3D Sharp TV that's keeps going and going. That thing has been on for an average of 16 hours a day, every day since I got it in 2011. Still looks great, but has been relegated to bedroom use. Wonder if newer TV's will last that long?
I also have a Sharp Aquos TV, 65" and I got it in 2011. Never new when I bought it that it was going to be such a good TV! It's still working great. The older CRT TV's didn't last near as long and had terrible pictures. Today all the TV's sound complicated and when I eventually have to get a new one, I just want to know what the best top 3 ones are.
Have had multiple Sharp Aquas. They are tanks.
Best explanation I have found after trying to decipher the jargen for 3 years.
I’m upgrading to a bigger tv from a 10 year old lcd to c3 oled with soundbar can’t wait for it to get here😊
I’m waiting until Black Friday for a LG G4 moving up from a Vizio 4K ledx from 2017 lol
i went with the lg c4 77" and i love it i could sit down on any of my sofas and color brightness and shading are phenomenal!!!! thank you! really wanted the g4 but price was a little over my budget since i also go the lg surround sound!!
I wish that you would have addressed the possibility of OLED burn in for certain users. My professionally calibrated LG E7 has finally shown this. I can’t complain too much after this many years, but I tend to keep my TVs for a fairly long time (there’s still a Pioneer 600m Kuro in the basement). My use case still has quite a bit of SDR cable and streaming, so processing is extremely important. To be fair, both you, Brian, and others address this in your detailed reviews. So, the 65” E7 will find a new home, and replacement contenders are the 85 inch Bravia 9, one of the remaining X95Ls, or possibly the new LG QNED 90T. I’m eagerly awaiting the results of this weekend’s upcoming shootout. If the Hisense U9N ever hits the market and gets a timely review, I’ll consider it, as well as the Samsungs. I was tempted by last year’s Hisense UX at this year’s blow out price but I’ll hold out. Keep up the good work.
LED can burn in as well, just has a lower chance. The damn things aren't built to last 10+ years anymore, whichever tv you buy will probably fail before you have burn in issues OLED or not. Also modern OLED's don't have a burn in issue unless you're watching something like CNN 24/7 with their silly banner.
OMG. If your still on burn in 2024 then Something is wrong with you.
Rtings don't even mention Burn-in anymore..
@@RedPillAlways you’re not the first person that’s said that. 😏
@@glenngross605 that should tell you something..
I have C6 with no burn in but it does have a weird vertical bar that is only visible on light backgrounds- I also have a C1 83 that has terrible venetian blinding that looks like complete crap in the greys - I get mad while watching it all the time.
Cool take on things, very informative. I just bought a 2024 Sony Bravia 7 65" (Australia). Coming from a Samsung mu8000 55", had I had the choice, of the two back in 2018, I would of went with the Sony all day everyday. I've watched a few other post's of your's, learning heaps, thanks👍❤️😁
I am on a super budget. Recently, I upgraded my 40" 1080P Samsung to the 50" 4K Samsung DU7200 for only $329 on sale at Best Buy. It's edge-lit but not all that thin. Oddly enough, the back panel does get warm, but not at the edges, it's warm in the center. But, even if it lasts half as long as the other TV's you mentioned, it's 1/3 the price. I'm 74 and collecting social security so my income is limited and I got what I could afford.
Perhaps because its power board or cpu is in the centre of the tv
Yeah it's not the LED lights that get hot.
Great deal! That's exactly what i want to do to replace my 43" 1080p lcd Sony bravia from 2010. 300-500 is my budget.
Still have my sony bravia kdl 4100 47” from 2008. still looks great. Which TV compares to this one as far as durability.
Which 55-inch TV should I buy as a sports and movie fan (no gaming)? I don't have the space for a larger TV, so anything above 55 inches is out of the question. I want to try Sony, but the reviews for the Bravia 8 are mixed.
Great thorough breakdown of the different technologies. In a future video, maybe you can discuss OLED burn-in. I understand this issue isn’t as bad as it used to be but I’m interested in the risk of burn-in for the current TVs.
Yep my OLED was awesome until burn in happened within 7 months…never again
@@wht80vetteit’s this simple: don’t watch the same thing or play the same games for more than 8 hours at a time. If the images are varied, and you don’t use maximum brightness at all times, the built-in pixel refreshers will prevent image retention or burn in.
Yeah it sucks that you actually have to take care of your expensive equipment, but it’s almost like a sports car.
Incredible break down and explanation of the LCD and OLED features. Thank you. Currently shopping for a new TV and I want to get it right.
OLED is a type of LCD as is mini led as is QLED; it's like an electric car and a gas car are both cars!!!
your analysis is impeccable and so helpful. For my own part, I mostly watch tv in a darkened room but sometimes its a saturday afternoon matinee. Given that scenario, I need the LCD with all the bells and whistles. OLED kicks it on quality but it becomes questionable in a room that has significant light from the windows. Do I want OLED, well sure for the quality, but because my home is my home and not a dedicated theater, LCD wins. Compromises, we all make them. And that is where I have to go. Thanks for helping me sort it out.
I just got the Samsung S90C 77” for $1800……very happy with it. By the way it replaces my 60” Samsung plasma tv.
QN900D all day! The brightness and color and contrast is unbeatable. The S95D is good but the overheating causes it to dim constantly.
Have you used the S95D?
900D is beautiful but the Bravia 9 beats it all day
I've noticed that the 800C, amongst other Samsungs, but mostly the 8K models, have visible LEDs. i.e. you can actually see the LEDs and their location. Pure junk. Mostly noticeable when blue is on screen, like a blue sky.
The heating is also noticeable on my LG B4 OLED.
I bought a 77 inch LG C3 oled for 2000$ + a cashback of 500$. I'm very happy with that decision. It was a steal. But it's always the risk of burn in. I hope that doesn't become an issue for at least 6 years
You should be good as long as it's not ridden hard the entire time
@@veilmontTV 1300hrs on my G3 and no problems so far. 50/50 gaming and movies.
The best breakdown on UA-cam. You helped me a few years ago when I was shopping for myself, and now I am researching for a family member, and once again you are totally clutch. Thank you!
Thank you, the FOMO review helped me with my Sony x95L, because I use it with my computer and don't want to risk burning the image. FOMO said that it doesn't have to happen, but according to rtings test, reddit, LG G3 had a burn-in problem. As a monitor, OLED is still a risk and it was confirmed by LG itself that this is not covered by the warranty, I reached out to LG and they wrote me back. That for my use OLED is not a good idea and I should choose another TV or another brand.
They specifically said you cannot take there test as evidence for that. It’s WAYYYYY too small a sample size. Just because 1 or a couple tvs had a problem doesn’t indicate something being a widespread issue.
I’m LG 65” E7/C1 OLED now, but TCL’s QN851G at 98” is tempting for a living-room upgrade. 83” v 98” and next year’s TCL 115” as a possibility makes things super hard. I fell in love with OLED because of the blacks, but TCL proves mini-LED is doing blacks justice now. Thoughts FOMO & FOMO fam?
i’d be afraid the tcl wouldn’t last half as long as the LG
I live on the east coast of Florida and was without grid power for 40 hours after Milton passed thru. I have solar with 2 power walls that kept me in power the whole time. I did back off on usage - rose the AC temperature etc. even so the daytime was providing about 10 times less energy and the batteries did not get to full charge before sundown. Point is - I would not have lasted much longer unless I got some decent sunlight. Best advantage of the power walls is that my power never glitched- I only knew power was out because the app said so…
I've just ordered a sony bravia 7, 55" is plenty big enough for me and I didn't want the worry of oled burn in, can't wait for it to arrive 😁
Some points like actual color will look much better on a QD mini led over oled. Sony best oled colors are incredible but the whites look washed like grayish. LED will last longer than OLED and will not suffer from image burn. As for gaming the s90d is 144 refresh not 120. There is just so many options
Thank you for all the detailed information. I mainly use my TV/Monitor as a PC display and upgrade whenever Nvidia releases their fastest Video Card. When the 2080ti came out, I bought a new 65" 8 Series Samsung 4K TV (It can only do 120hz at 1440p back then, but no game can run 4K smoothly anyway). Then when the 3090 came out, I went with a Samsung Neo G9 47". After that, I purchased a Samsung Neo G9 57" when the 4090 came out. Now the 5090 is about to come out and I really want to go back to using a big 65" 4k display. I always wanted an OLED display and appreciate the picture quality compared to all my previous VA panels. This time I purchased a Samsung S95D QD OLED 65" as my main PC display. PC Games on this display are going to look amazing. It's still in the box and going to mount it on the wall and set it up as my computer display later today. This TV/Monitor should serve me well for the next couple of years until it's time to change again.
Thankyou, someone who explains the differences...guess im going to be very happy with mini...😊
I just got a 65" S95C for $1,547. I'm super stoked.
No issues with lack of Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos?
When comparing Rtings's reviews for the Sony non mini-LED X90L with the Hisense U8N and TCL 2024 QM8, I'd still go with the Sony. After comparing the Rtings reviews, I'm still satisfied with my X90L even though it might have more blooming and its highlights might not get as bright because of its accuracy and the various other areas of importance to me it excels in all at once. I got my Sony 85-inch X90CL from Costco for $2,000 in December of 2023 and even after checking out Rting's reviews of the 2024 offerings, I couldn't be happier about how the Sony X90CL falls perfectly within that sweetspot of performance, size, and price. I still wait for its rival within this sweetspot, but none of the reviews have revealed such results at this moment.
I'd choose it over last year's QM8 as well but this year's U8N is a beast and I would choose it over the X90L
@@stopthefomo It depends on what's more important I guess. For this price range, if deep black levels, minimal blooming, and extra bright specular highlights are most important, then the Hisense U8N and TCL 2024 QM8 would be the way to go. If pre-calibration color accuracy, shadow detail, gradient handling, and PQ EOTF tracking are more important, then for the price, I prefer the Sony X90L from 2023 which is still being carried over. At this price, we have to pick our poison. If money was no object, I'd have a Sony 85-inch Bravia 9 on one cart and a 77-inch Sony A95L on the other cart. I'd choose which one to roll into my viewing area based on ambient lighting, time of day, what I'm watching, etc.. While not many of us can afford it including myself, having a Sony 85-inch Bravia 9 on one cart and a 77-inch Sony A95l on another cart is perfection. My reservations about the LG G4 is its less saturated color due to its WOLED panel.
I am still anxiously waiting for the Hisense U9N. I wish it would hurry up! 🏇
Yuck! You don't want Hisense! Those are crappy cheap TVs they sell at Walmart
@abruegger007 lol. I am waiting to see what is presented at CES in January
Excellent Video!! You are one of the Master Reviewers for televisions!
This is one of the best and most helpful breakdowns I've seen on this topic
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According to the secret Sony service menu I've got over 25,000 hours on my X95K. It was a best buy open box so I guess it ran 24/7 but I've been using it heavily for over a year now with zero issue and for $800 I'm not complaining. An LCD made with quality capacitors in the power supply is going to give you your money's worth no doubt about it.
I've had the A90J for three years and could upgrade to any display but there isn't any logical reason to. It's bright enough for me and the picture is stellar.
It's either OLED or LCD (with some type of backlight), commercial use has Micro LED.
Just ordered 65” S90C for $1500 from Best Buy!
How do you like it? I'm considering this TV, but I'm concerned that it will dim constantly with F1 or NFL content.
@ it’s incredible for what I paid for it, even more so now at Black Friday pricing if they’re still available. The room it’s in is not very bright so I don’t have the brightness maxed out. Can’t say for certain if dimming on F1 or NFL would be an issue, which I watch both of. I’ve not noticed anything though.
@@matthewstreit1650thanks for the reply. I ended up finding one of the last ones in the country I think, should be here next week and I can't wait.
I would like to buy a 85" for my cave, so watching TV is frontal and dark room. What is the best technology (and TV) I can get with a budget?
One you can purchase on black Friday
Thank you for the extensive explanation for the different technologies , how about the pick cell burning which has less OLED or Mini LED ?
FOMO - I can get the Samsung QN90C in 85" for $2k (government employee discount). Good deal? I have a large, bright room with lots of windows and the TV faces the lake (additional reflection/glare) so OLED is out of the question. I also do exactly ZERO gaming. Thanks.
Would you still consider OLED for gaming, when it comes to the potential of burn in or are there certain settings that might prevent that?
Game Mode is good enough to prevent it as long as you're not playing the same game with the same static HUD that's too bright 24/7. Playing different games throughout the week will prevent burn-in risk and the G3/G4/G5 have a 5 yr panel replacement warranty against burn-in
Finally something I understand. Thank you sir!! Bravo 🎉
I have been underwhelmed by my LG OLED C1 65 inch tv. Lately it is not been playing nice with my computer, I like to use it as a monitor when I play games. Worked fine for a while and all the sudden it refuses to recognize my PC as an input. Switching to qled
Should i get hisense u7n or sony x90l for around the same price? Kindly share your thoughts 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks. Mini led for me
Gee I hope you keep making content. First time I listened to one of yours. Your a very good teacher. Thankyou.
Great orientation for someone like me that has not been in the tv market for years. Thanks!!
If you haven't been in the TV Market, then maybe you were in the TV grocery store!
This was the most helpful video I've watched on UA-cam in the past decade lol tysm!
LG G5 has just completed dropped the MLA technology for some kind of 4 layer tech which they say is 30% brighter and more efficient. Panasonic back in the USA also is not using MLA and has a 4 layer tech. I have top of the line Panasonic plasma which was discontinued immediately thereafter and am thinking about the G4 but the differences between it and the G5 are not .00001 The G4 65 inch at Best Buy is 2799 I am guessing the G5 with their gen 2 processor in the same size will retail for 3499. Since I keep sets for so long should I wait? The cost will amortize over time. What say you if you had to choose 2024 G4 or 2025 G5 or Panasonic? Thank you in advance.
Thanks for the heart; would you be kind enough to answer the question? Thanks again.
Ok.. great video.. need good contrast .. brightness.. color saturation.. gaming tv 65" motion sound what do you suggest?🥰TY
My living room isn't big and i can get between 48 to 55 inches, i can't find any recommendations for those sizes.
Great Video-- but I still need some help deciding? I have a den in my condo with no direct lighting sources that can't be eliminated. My TV will be 7.5 feet from my farthest viewing area--directly in front of the screen. I do no play video games--but I like movies and sports. I may be able to fit a 65" TV in the space--but 55" is more likely the correct size for the area. I was leaning towards the LG OLED B4 model but you intrigued me with the choice of the TCL QM8 mini-LED choice. Am I splitting hairs here or do I save some money and buy the TCL. BTW I am replacing a Vizio 50" 2007 LCD model. Love to hear your thoughts--Bill
Thank you for your advice. It has worked for me 3 different times on tv purchases.
Totally confused now lol 😅😅😅
I need a 75" or 77" TV. Don't mind spending between £1700 to £2700 stay in Scotland so the tv range might change a little. Be good if you have done any videos for the 75" I saw a Samsung think it was the 77s95C possibly. Thoughts on that or similar. Many thanks
Ian.
QN90D samsung is another. S
I still have the first 50" pioneer plasma TV that came with no speakers and cost me a little over 2k nearly 20 years ago lol. 😅 but I still an amazing TV. Picture quality is still up there I think.
But would love some help choosing
Many thanks and Happy New year.
Ian
Awesome 👍 I bought the 65 inch tclqm8 mini LED full array... awesome TV.
You failed to mention that OLEDs in ANY form or technology CAN'T SUSTAIN the brightness for a long time and the degrade more rapidly than LCD/LED TVs. Also, even the bright LG pales in a bright room environment , that IS the most common TV environment around the world
How bright of a room is bright? Are we talking just your normal ambient light from windows with the curtains closed or wide open windows and every available light turned on? I would think it's a relative term. For example, I live in a 2bdrm apt and my current old TV sits across from a big glass west facing sliding door to my balcony that has dark curtains that stay closed pretty much 24/7. Just opening them slightly creates a glare that's annoying. The only light entering the space is from light bleed around those curtains and ambient light from other parts of the apt; kitchen, bathroom, and bedroom windows that have closed vertical blinds.
Non oled fans fail to mention rtings testing recent oleds and leds that a lot of the leds were failing at the same rate just not to burn-in
@@droidattack2888 The edge lighted TVs are the most common to fail, or those that are always driven hard at max brightness. My experience in TV stations favors LCD TV for their durability and less processing to protect organic compounds that by nature degrades. Having gone through CRTs, PLASMAs and OLEDs, my preference and recommendations are still good LCDs. That could change if Microleds ever make it to the common public.
My lgc1 77 is still the same. By the time it dies, I will already have money to buy another one. Too much worry.
@@droidattack2888 I have 4 TVs in my house, an old Samsung 32' with CCFL tubes for backlight, a 40 "Samsung with LED backlight, a Panasonic 55" LED set with 360 backlight Comtrol and the main TV is a 75" Sony also with LED full array backlight. The older Samsung was the first Samsung sold in the USA with an ATSC-1 tuner. All are running as new, and I calibrated them. I have had experience with TVs since the late '40s as a rf Engineer and had experienced a lot of burn in since then. The first LCD TVs had a problem with the color filters that degraded with UV light from the backlight and the surrounding fluorescent lights. Manufactures solved this problem immediately. We use LCDs in our TV studios and production all around and OLEDs only for color grading under light-controlled venues. When someone ask me for advice on a TV, I ALWAYS ASK for their viewing environment and the majority of them aren't favorable for OLEDs, no matter what "experts" say.
Beat breakdown of tv tech I've found. Gj homie
Excellent explanation of various tv technologies out there.
Very, very well explained. Thanks!
As we get into larger TVs, where is the discussion on power consumption (absolute and relative to older LCDs and plasma) as well as heat dissipation?
New tvs use WAY less power
@@drunkhusband6257 I wouldn't call using 250-400W as using way less power.
Just the video I needed
Awesome information. We are buying a new TV for our living room and was going with the Sony Bravia but our couch is long so I need the OLED since I normally am regulated to the end of the sofa....hahahaha! Thank you so very much.
I thought leds to be pretty reliable which could last longer. But just sometime ago my sony x90j right part started blinking. I cant believe tv that costs so much could have such problem
People's that leave comments like I watch the new, sports, and its on in the back round, or my room is very bright. Just get a mini led but in no way are you actually trying to watch tv the best way possible. Local dimming zones and bright rooms will never have the best hdr picture. Whats to argue about and be confused about. I never get that depth that oled and qd oled give me.
Great informative video! I just bought the Sony Bravia Mini LED QLED and it’s awesome!
Sony - 75" class BRAVIA 7 Mini LED QLED 4K UHD Smart Google TV (2024) ???
How much?
Very good video. Which type of TVs here generally have better wide viewing angles as we don't all sit directly in front of the TV. Thanks
hi, i am eyeing on Samsung QN900D 85inch, LG C4 83inch, or bravia 9 85inch. Viewing distance is about 10f away from the TV, the largest TV that i can fit is 85inch. I am not a gamer and we are watching movie and daily TV programme. Which one would you recommend for my setting?
which one did you go with? and what do you think of it?
@ Hi. I ended up buying Bravia 9. The colour and picture quality is stunning.
OLED is a type LCD too, OLED is a lighting system just ike QLED. What OLED does is allow each pixels light to be completely switched off i.e. no light/jet black. QLED is a whiter light than normal LED and splits the screen into sections that can be dimmed independently - the more arrays (sections) the finer the dimming. My 4K Samsung QLED QE55Q9F computer monitor has 320 dimmable sections compared to 4K OLED has about 8 million sections (pixels)...Always get a Sony or Panasonic TV; they know about movies/cinema. My main TV is Pany TX-P65VT65 plasma...
OLED TV's are not LCD. The difference is an OLED TV LED's provide their own illumination thus negating the need for backlighting. The lighting "system" is not even remotely similar to a QLED TV.
Hey guy, due to financial issues all I can afford is a 500 to 600 range tv 65inch. What tv would u recommend it don't matter if its just a regular led TV but something with bright colors and deep blacks. I'm not sure if they even have anything in that price range and also with durability to last me for a while. Please help.
Recently bought TCL X955 after owning 3 OLED TVs earlier, 77” C1 being the last.
Do I prefer the inky black from OLED, of course. But with the contrast control and size of the mini leds, easy choice.
Now with 98” I would probably need a 100+
OLED to make the next switch.
Thx man, now I maybe know what 2 buy. Your talk and gestures are awesome, excellent review.
Great vid, helped clear up all this tech in an easy to follow format. Thanks
Very good job!! I listened well and OLED would STILL be my choice.
Nice video FOMO with helpful info. Interesting that you say you would put the G4's and S95D's brightness up there with the Bravia 9. You should know since you've compared with the reference monitor 😃. Lots of folks still balk at OLED"s lack of full screen brightness compared to MiniLEDs and lower peak brightness (~1500nits OLED vs ~3000nits+ for MiniLeds). Are you saying that real world watching, the difference isn't that great?
Correct - full screen brightness (100% stimulus white) of the Bravia 9 is brighter but that does not exist in real content. The Bravia 9 is bright and arguably among the brightest on window stimulus tests but in real content the G4 and S95D match it scene for scene (65" size of course). ALSO, please remember that firmware updates may improve B9 performance or worsen OLED performance so things may change in 3 mnonths!
Great video. One additional topic to consider in the mix would be matte versus gloss finish.
very informative and explained easily thank you one of the best videos i watched
I am looking for a 100”to 120” tv I have looked at the Hisense U LED U8 Mini-LED versus the TCL Q LED ULTRA Q M8 QD Mini LED ULTRA so which is the best tv for shortness and color 2:03
What about the S90C if you can still find one. My local Costco still has them. The $1499 price has not budged.
Have you decided anything yet? 10/31/24
@@t.k.morris Nope. A friend sent me some info on a BestBuy deal on a 65" S90C for $1169 a couple of days ago. It was very tempting but I have an issue that I have to resolve with my car first that I don't know how much will cost. While I probably have the funds to cover both, there's still the holiday shopping on the horizon plus air travel expense. The timing is not the best. So I had to miss out. I still have to stay with my '09 46" Samsung 8500. I have no plans to upgrade any time soon.
gr8 breakdown - thx!
Outstanding information! Thank you!!
3:56 Great tv technology breakdown😊 I am 5:18 very happy still with my Samsung S95B. A awesome tv no doubt. Fits my use case nicely.😊
I have a 77 Sony A80J and I'm very happy with it!!!!! I stream Netflix,prime,etc. I also watch movies on blu ray and 4k blu rays!!! If I upgrade it will probably be a QD OLED 83 inch whenever they come out with it!!!! I wonder if the QD OLED is worth the upgrade????????
Would you prefer to go for the 2023 qned866re mini led or 2024 qned87t6b which isn't mini led? Which one is better?
Also why are Hisense TVs so much cheaper than the other brands?
Because lots of them fail within 2 years.
Best review I have ever seen. Great job!!
So the best mini led to date is the Bravia 9?
GREAT Breakdown...I'm looking for a 55" that's the great for Live Sports and Streaming . Looking for GOOD Upscaling as well with Good Viewing Angles . I don't game at all. Going from a Panasonic ST60 Plasma that still looks great....The Sony A95L
Great video Fomo. Still love all your work buddy. Fomo is the G4 as colourful as a top end mini led.
You're my go-to LCD guy!
Great presentation! We like Samsungs. I don't want to go over $2,200. I want to replace a 75". Any advice/suggestions? Thanks, Tina
I own a Sony A9G OLED master series 77’’ and now I’m enjoying the PS5 pro. However, the A9G doesn’t support HDMI 2.1or VRR. What should I get instead?