If you're in the Gold Coast come to my show: www.friendlyjordies.com/live-show I'm in other places too so check out the websiiiite. ALSO, if more people keep bothering me to make an ungrateful tankie pig T-shirt.... I just might have to make it.
Rizzler tits first! Shit. Well, I'm both second and now I'm going to have to watch the bloody video. This is worse than your fauna. *sulks* You do have weirdly dead Aryan eyes though. No offence. Ok. Fair enough. I've watched the rest of the video. Your eyes aren't remotely as dead as Julia.
Oh yeah you forgot to mention how Rudd turned the australian government into drug dealers, disproportionately affecting lower socioeconomic areas and making western suburbs etc. kids starve because of the high price of the drugs (smokes) and their parents poor decisions due to their hereon like addiction, but apart from that all good. Julia F'd us with the mines and got us the lowly 13% as you said.
I find this video intriguing , so Rudd was knifed on the mining tax yet we have a UA-cam economist @Liethvo barrelling into Rudd Gillard & Labor on the gas reserve issue regularly weekly in the media with another lack of context being offered yet again and how this relates to the current government
I've been saying Trump and Biden should box on UA-cam for the Presidency. That's far more American than a lame duck waiting until 6 months before elections to drop out of the race and hand the nomination to his Vice President, while the other side runs for president in the same year he became a felon for soliciting sex from a C tier cornstar.
It was confusing as hell to me as a 12 year old when Rudd got replaced. Like, Howard had basically been PM my whole life, and then Rudd was gone in a flash. I didn't realise that that was a thing that could happen... ...This was before the prime ministership became a game of musical chairs in the 2010s.
Yeah, I was still a LNP nazi at this point in my life, believing media and liberal propaganda. I am ashamed. Luckily through research, I grew. Trading economics, political and economics lectures, modern economic history, all influenced my political ideology. That, and my vision for the country. If my vision/self-corruption was different, I could be liberal/national. I think the following election was where I was able to influence and redeem myself.
The Howard years were very dark. We're talking about a guy who had lived with his mum for most of his life and practiced law. We lost funding for public schools and healthcare, in favour for funding rich private schools and subsidising the logging and mining industries.
How bout his apologies to abos and giving them more money while making it harder for single mothers thst aren't indigenous to get payments. Fuck Kevin Rudd fuck all politicians
I remember as a lad seeing Kevin Rudd in parliament spinning around in his chair as they talked about some boring nonsense. I couldn't relate more to a person in authority and haven't since.
Why? Dude is a massive tosser. He leaked and actively sabotaged his own party and helped Abbott win as a result, which gave us the Morrison years, robodebt, and the economic nonsense we're living with now. He exploited the Emissions trading scheme nonsense by challenging Gillard during the height of it instead of backing one of the more important pieces of environment legislation. Rudd is a tosser, always has been and always will be. Same group as "the people's choice" Albenese who has been liberal literally and the very opposite on many issues that Shorten had public positions on - like legalisation, housing etc.
I asked Kevin Rudd how good he felt about winning his lawsuit against Peta Credlin (the one where she said he was data harvesting) and he said: 11 out of 10 mate. Legend.
I don't have such a problem with Julia but the way the media leveraged her to slander Kevin is just classic character assassination, you know the papers are up to something when they have anything nice to say about a labor mp.
Love it! You got all my sentiments exactly. She is a Labor Rat, but far better than any LNP member. Still, her putting her stiletto on Abbot’s neck was brilliant!!!🤣🤣🤣 sometimes you look at history, if something had changed… it would’ve affected nothing.. But unluckily that single decision to take the Labor leadership has massively negatively affected our history and future. I don’t see Albo being capable of a dominating win in elections or being highly foresight with decisions. But there is still strong hope as they easily outclass anything Morrison did.
K. Rudd is a legend! Australia was robbed when he was knifed in the back. He had so much integrity and public respect, that the only way he could be brought down was from the inside of the party.
@@Sanguinarius9999 To be fair that was kind of his fault wasn't it? Establishing a massive rebate to the point that insulation work was just free money without also making sure regulation and oversight was established to avoid the inevitable results. My memory could be off since it was a long time ago but that was a pretty bad move.
I've been reading The Avoidable War, I'm not far into it but it's definitely an interesting read. I didn't know before that Rudd actually speaks Mandarin Chinese, the fact that so many foreign diplomats don't even speak the language of the countries they are diplomats to is sad.
@@DreamGamingS2 You are quite correct. He also had warnings that there were potential safety issues where such a scheme had previously been implemented. Zero oversight did not help the scamming that took place on an industrial level. The scheme basically was to pump the economy with some cash. It would have been cheaper to just fill up the back of utes with cash and drive around the suburbs spreading it like confetti.
I lived through it. Interparty squabbling does not interest me, who the leader of the party is, is a democratic decision by that party. I don't vote for a person, I vote for a party and its policies. I voted Labor at that particular election and I voted Labor at the following election as I really didn't care who the leader was. I just wanted Labor in power. That's all. Policy is determined by the government of the day, not one person. What I found appalling was how Rudd orchestrated a personal policy of destruction on Julia after he was ousted as party leader. Julia had Abbott calling out 'ditch the witch' while Rudd undermined her in the media at every possible opportunity. She and Labor had no chance at all, as the party was hammered constantly in the media from both the opposition and their own ex-leader. I remember this clearly as it drove me distracted. Either it was Abbott throwing fewments at Julia or it was Rudd - and the losers were the Australian voters who had a brawl (orchestrated by one person - Rudd), instead of a government, and what government they did have, undermining itself via sour grapes - which was to the gleeful benefit of the lnp. We ended up with DECADES of right wing, trickle down economics via the lnp because Rudd could not just let it go and support his party but instead put his personal issues ahead of the party and the country. The only reason I have come close to forgiving him is due to his championing of an enquiry into the murdoch press.
Ain't that the truth mate! Gillard, a female, a lawyer, a liar, an ALP member. Julie Bishop, a female, a lawyer, a liar, an LNP member. The insignia on the shirt varies, but they are the same kind of people. Male or female, we desperately need a different kind of person to represent us.
Not just the government, but the general public too. To this day, Rudd is still being vilified by most Labor supporters (at least those that engage in social media) while Gillard continues to be touted as a shining example of what a PM should be.
@@centricthemedic1517 that was more of a hate message honestly. I have talked with a couple people who were descended from the stolen generation, and one thing I have heard pretty universally was that "it was purely a ploy for good will". of course that's not to say they all think that, but a lot do, and for good reason. it was an ass policy.
@@centricthemedic1517yeah it really looks like he genuinely really tried. It's a shame. Too easy for the media to claim 'I haven't spent the time understanding what this is so it must be too vague.' Hope we can continue our work on meaningful and just reconciliation regardless.
I used to work in a 5 star hotel.Ive served both Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd. Kev was a lot nicer. Absolute legend. Julia was just mean and condescending.
My god he has one hell of a jawline. Edit: Hearing Jordan say “rizz”, “skibidi”, and “rizzler” (along with all of the uhhh other stuff) killed a part of my soul. Jordan “Mogging” Friendlyjordies wins again I guess.
I voted for Kevin and was completely fkn livid when Gillard coups after the slightest pushback from mining. talk to me when we are a ACTUAL F(*^%G COUNTRY AND NOT SOME SANTOS PR HURDLE!
@@ommanipadmehung3014 to be fair our politics is one giant shitstorm dedicated to making the elites more elite while fucking everyone else over and making Israel happy. Makes it hard to focus on something else.
as a woman that voted for Kevin Rudd every time, it really bothered me that people assumed I would be happy that Julia knifed him and that we now had a female leader - like they just assumed as a woman that I should automatically back another woman and be happy about it. the ONE time I voted for Gillard, I did it not because I liked her and supported her policies, but because I despised Abbot and his Work Choices policies etc that much more.
It's shocking how many similarities between modern Australian geopolitics and modern Greek geopolitics went down. If you replace Rudd with Karamanles and Gillard with Papandreou it's kinda the same story. In 2004 the former was elected and despite being aligned with the western camp, he was close to making a deal with the Russians regarding natural gas pipes. Immediately after that, the CIA ensure he resigns (rumors circulate that his family was threatened) and gets immediately replaced by the opposition party leader Papandreou who as a first order of business makes sure to cancel the natural gas deal. That was around 2009, when Greece really took the downward spiral never to rise at any level again. Similarly to Australia, this was the closest Greece ever came to becoming a sovereign state. The previous attempt was during the late 60's
Not everything is an American conspiracy. And they're certainly not going to want to replace one Labor with another Labor that had a green coalition. Rudd got replaced because he was unpopular and Labor got scared.
It seems there's a common theme between narcissistic people from above average family's stabbing each other in the back for personal gain, and us peasants are the ones who suffer.
every time i've seen Rudd nattering away, he comes across like guy who likes to understand what he's talking about and if he understands it well, he's a battleaxe lol
most lasting legacy of Gillard was changing DSP to make it nearly impossible to get on, severely disabled Australians are trapped in Jobseeker hell because of her
Not gonna be very balanced, one is an independent journalist who brought the ridiculous amount of corruption in NSW to an international audience, got a deputy premier to resign in disgrace, got fire bombed (the ultimate show of a good journalist) and has fought back against the Murdoch media's character assassination of Labour. The other thinks that people will want to buy a flooded house and was so shit at debating that he had to resort to calling one of the UK's most conservative news presenters a communist.
@@cookiecraze1310 Yeah surely Ben is smart enough to know not to platform Jordan / take him on. One of the things about being a hack is not debating people you know are onto your grift.
I remember I was studying social work at TAFE when Julie stripped TAFE of funding - I had to leave my TAFE course and go back to washing dishes - it was so sad to see so many people have desperately needed educational opportunities taken away from them.
TAFE is state funded. Only the loans for students to undertake courses are federally funded - so which was it? Did you lose the loan or did the State government cut the course funding?
@@hincksman The SMH (I know, I know, just hold your reflexive gagging for a second) reported that Gillard cut $50 million worth of contracts held by TAFE that used public funding and instead awarded them to private providers. NSW Parliament's website also states that Gillard ended the NPASR agreement with the states and territories, having moved $1.75 billion over five years, which (from what I can tell) was designed to subsidise tertiary education courses up to a Cert III, for anyone without a Cert III or higher. OP could be referring to one or both of those.
@@raylouis7013 Both sources I found claimed that the decisions were made by the Gillard government, can you give me some pointers as to where I should look for more information?
@@DoctorProph3tBecause it holds more weight for a well known person like Jordies to fairly scrutinise all relevant political figures and stories from both sides of politics.
@@DoctorProph3t Keep Reaching 😂 My point was merely that all people should question their hero’s as well as their opponents. Clearly the original commenter doesn’t feel Jordies has been impartial in his ever glowing view of the Australian Labor party. Hence why they proposed that little test.
@@contenteater what test? What are you babbling about? It’s really simple, if you feel a story should be talked about, talk about it, why wait for someone else to do it? That just sounds lazy and arrogant.
Regardless of how you Julia Gillard or her policies, you have to admit that she worked incredibly hard for her success and to put up with the disgusting behaviour of many people in parliament simply for being a woman. That being said, she was not a good replacement for Kevin Rudd and did not do well as Prime Minister.
youtube just straight up suppressed this video from my recommended. its been out for 4 days now and im only seeing it now after waiting for this video for ages looking forward to it
I'm kinda shocked how off the mark Jordies is with this whole video. The complete lack of other context around that knifing and election (see: backflipping on climate/emissions legislation, Australia having not lived through the knifing of PMs era, etc) is pretty concerning... But to then go into Australia-US politics and not address Rudd's recent 'just chill' rhetoric on Trump? You're doing exactly what you call out other journos on Jordies, telling half the story to fit your slant. Like come on dude... we get you like Kevin, but you don't have to downplay Gillard in the process. Gillard had the NDIS. That alone is historic legislation that fits the Labor movement to a T. But then let's also include the Carbon 'Tax' (which Jordies has variously heralded as great legislation and Rudd had previously backflipped on), the MRRT (again, jordies loved it previously), plain cigarette packaging and we're off to the races for why she's rightly remembered as a truly effective Labor leader. This whole video feels like the same kinda hit job Jordies has recently been the target of and should desperately know better. I'm disappointed.
It's because he harbours misogynistic tendencies. I know, I know, he made fun of that accusation so it can't possibly be true! But it is. He rarely has ANYTHING nice to say about women in general, let alone female politicians. The only one I can think of which he has been somewhat respectful to is Plibersek.
Gillard brought in NDIS? Man how did I not know that.... Shame about all the innocent men who can't see their children because of her policies though....
Shittiest Labor Prime Minister we've ever had? No way it's Gillard! Billy Hughes, Chris Watson and James Scullin have to be the three contenders for the bottom.
Julia was on the same boat as me, we met at the maroochydore airport . Lots of people yelled she was a liar, I saw in her a quality I see in few, I saw the same in David crisafulli.
Not true at all. Rudd was the best PM we've had since Whitlam when it came dealing with the US empire and their influence. Maybe that's not perfect for you but anyone more radical than that will never become PM to begin with. You need to be more pragmatic.
An extremely weird video considering Julia Gillard considering her work to establish the renewable energy target, the clean energy package, NDIS and the gonski reforms to schools.
I was labour all the way until julia, she ended that, was a single parent at the time, could not believe the labour party was being less compassionate than john howard, made me realise we now had 2 right wing leaders
overall good video but not sure why you made the percentages for party preference comments around 11:25 when it looks pretty similar for KR and JG across 2010, throwing in a different table for preferred PM regarding KR which had a bigger percentage difference but then not showing the comparison for JG doesn't make sense other than to sell the point you tried to make. Felt more like a personal grudge/attack on JG given the similar stats KR had, I would have left that whole bit out, didn't add anything useful imo, if anything it just showed a bias.
From my understanding, party preferences are always extremley close as people tend to vote for the same party no matter what (i.e., its usually between a 60:40 and 50:50), and also fluctuate a couple percent as time goes consistently. So that nearly 5% difference is pretty big since nearly half of the country was going to be happy with Rudd no matter what and nearly half were going to unhappy with him no matter what
@@jarroddt agreed in general. My point was just around the difference percentage wise as there is barely any, KR max was 56%, min 49%. JG max was 55% and min 50%, theres practically no difference so no idea why that section was included, just felt odd that's all
@@datsephardicboi9358 He was being diplomatic at the RNC. Ray thinks Kevin should just burn all bridges who isn't perfect. May as well turn Australia into North Korea with that kind of extreme isolationist thinking.
Hmm, there is something Jordan isn't saying or doesn't know. Like why did Wayne Swann, the legendary treasurer back Julia, and why did Shorten (Who Jordan admires) and much of the trade union MPs do the same. The narrative he is crafting is woefully incomplete. The actual truth is that the Union movement especially during the late 2000s and early 2010s became incredibly antagonistic to the Labor leadership in New South Wales and Queensland. Jordies has to acknowledge this.
@@tdaddy26 I still admire Jordan Shanks and I would support Labor in Australia. But if he was to do that he would have to reiterate the privatization battles that happened in NSW and Queensland under Bligh and Iemma. And the shenanigans of Michae Costa, (Dr. Evil.)
Jordan, I disagree with your thesis. Gillard lost Rudd's majority due to the impact of the Minerals Council advertising campaign, designed to kill the mining super profits tax. Rudd was a great PM and his economic record stands alone, as you point out. However, after the intense media campaign from the Minerals Council and their ilk, Prime Minister Gillard formed a minority government and still managed to govern and implement a legislative program that was p[rogressive and positive. Yes, I'm not happy about the removal of KR, however, that was a response to the intense media campaign and KR's failures as a leader to gain consensus and to bring his people with him, his inability to lead, to the point that his cabinet shafted him.
Tell that to the millions of sexually assaulted people inside australia who would never have achieved and type of justice without Julia Gillard. To me, that is on single best thing any PM has ever done on behalf of Australian citizens. The RC into child sexual abuse would never have happened under any other Prime Minister. The churches and other institutions were laid bare as the predatory arsehats they were. Until Gillard , all of that was known and covered up by every leader we’ve ever had. So don’t be minimising her contribution to Australian society.
@frenne_dilley what a load of BS a that doesn’t line up with the statistics. You’re speaking out of your but just because you’ve decided to hate women. Get back to me when the stats matches your biases enough to have a conversation. Of all SA, only 17% gets reported. Of that 17% , only a faction gets to court and only 3% of that 17% gets a conviction. So stop making things up in your head because you like to watch misogynistic arses rant about how they’re all victims of women. False allegations makes up less than 1% of all reported SA cases. If anything, those stats prove that rapists very rarely end up with convictions and they’re let loose to prey on others.
@frenne_dilleyYou lot really need to look up the origins of the parental alienation syndrome before you start throwing it around. Spoiler alert: it was created by a p£dophile sympathiser.
@frenne_dilley give you good odds that, like most such things, it made life much better who were on the wrong end of the problems with the previous system, while making it worse for those who were on the wrong end of the new system. That's the usual way of these things: does a great job of solving the specific problem it's focused on but a terrible job at not breaking adacent matters. (mind you, the way political nonsense tends to shake out, the alternative is not even trying to fix the existing issue, and which state of affairs is better comes down to the coinflip of whether the job was done properly and even then depends on whether you were in a demographic being hit by the problems of the old system or one being hit by the problems of the new system or never had to interact with either).
I feel compelled for the first time to comment. Blaming Gillard for the loss of votes is dismissing the incredible vitriol & shocking personal attacks on her from Abbott - aggressively pursued by the media. This level of negative, mysogonistic & sexist commentary in the media against a PM had never before reached such dizzying heights. If we all agree that the MSM have unfairly influenced our political landscape - why not balance your comments about the loss of votes by acknowledging this? And you seem to gloss over the obvious white anting that Rudd did during Gillards tenure. The Labor Party room voted for the change in leadership - members who were clearly worried they might lose their seats. It wasn’t just one video of him losing his head - there were other issues, otherwise Rudd would have been supported by the party room. & Gillards legacy is much more than the speech u refer to . What about her establishing a royal commission into institutional child sexual abuse? There are many more achievements than the speech. I’m offended by this one sided video.
Damn, i had a "but" to offer in her defence however you nailed it with that last line tying it all together. Rudd is my favourite PM I lived thru, but then I only arrived here in 95.
All I could ever see was back stabber from Julia. And its all anyone could see Labor was for 10 years. In his term Rudd brought in reform policy that was quiet wild at the time. Julia put the breaks on that. Even on Foreign policy Bob Carr had to reign her in because she really was a lapdog for the US
Calling Gillard the worst labor PM in history is such an L take Jordies. The woman passed more legislation than any prime minister in history with a minority government and less than a whole term in office. That’s legend shit. Yeah the 2010 coup was fucked. But Gillard is a mad lass.
Sounds like you didn't even watch the video, all you can point to is how much legislation she did. Nothing about her backstabbing an ELECTED prime minister, nothing about her bending over to the mining companies, nothing about her making life incredibly hard for single mothers, nothing about her stripped funding from tafes, nothing about her being against marriage equality when in office.. yeah she passed a record amount of legislation. She also did a ton of bad things as well. Remember both of them.
He lost credibility when he inferred in his statement that 'passing legislation' should be considered a measure of success. What if that legislation was ineffective, overly bureaucratic or people just didn't want it? What if it was being guided by foreign influences, which in this case seems highly plausible? What a stupid argument to make
legislation that gave our citizen data whole slate to American government, and gave the two-party system more tax payer money to campaign over the smaller parties? yep great legislation. Gillard is a dreg on the shoes of Labor and an enemy of honest democracy.
It was a really good speech though. Yes, rubbish situation, deflecting allegations of sexism from the sexist-in-chief in order to protect a one-seat majority. But still, the way she metaphorically hipthrew him down the stairs with his own smug energy was a delight. Imagine where we'd be if say Jeremy Corbyn had been able to do something like that with the Israel lobby.
Sure, the baddies repealed the carbon tax. It was still the best piece of policy to come out of AusGov in the last twenty years, and it wouldn't have happened without the minority government situation giving the Greens disproportionate influence. The two party system sucks, and having Labour in power maybe a 1/3 of the time isn't good enough when the Liberals hold power the other 2/3. The Australian political spectrum is slowly collapsing into a mosaic of medium-size parties and independents, and given the calibre of independents we're seeing, it currently seems like a good thing.
Usually a red flag when someone says Julia Gillard is their role model (narrowly focusing only on her speech about misogyny in parliament while ignoring all other things she did). Thanks for the vidya Jordie!
Gillard. If you are going to call all the male PMs by the surname use hers. You do come across as an arsehole when you do that. Also Gillard passed more legislation, in a minority government than any other PM. She did a lot of good. Rudd, for all that he was popular, was then and still is a mad lad - lot of respect for the man - was apparently an absolute f*g nightmare to work for. Calling people who make less than a third of his salary at 5 in the morning asking them for a full briefing of something that came up at 2 am, when he'd had them working until after midnight (which apparently he did numerous times) is an arsehole move.
There’s a similar and interesting debate around this with regards to Vice President Kamala Harris and (former) President Donald Trump. On one hand, the office holder should be referred to in the same manner regardless of their gender. However, women are typically referred to by their first name and men by their second. Is this inherently disrespectful or sexist? Donald Trump is not a woman nor is Kamala Harris a man. Maybe it’s a good thing to feminise the office of the President or Prime Minister to remove the inherent bias that these positions ought to be held by men. So perhaps there is nothing wrong with using Kamala or Julia and feminising the o
@Buckets41369 there is actual research on it. Using someone's first name rather than their surname reduces their perceived authority and minimises the perception their accomplishments. It's the fact that we are trained as children to use adults' surnames and refer to peers by their first names. It's got nothing to do with feminisation of the role it's about undermining the authority of the person in it.
Jordie it has to be said, this Rudd worshipping has to end before your credibility does. In Mandorin or plain English he was a dud. Rudd the Dudd! Your adoration is becoming a bit cult like, almost Trumpian. Don't be a MTG. Leave poor Julia alone! lol
Labor did themselve no favours by overthrowing or challenging their own leaders too often. Labor might be better than the Liberals but the difference isn't enough. Australia needs a new Labor, one that is less corporate and more aligned with their original ideological position (representing the working class) lets not forget Rudd's wife owns a successful labourhire business exploiting Howards shafting of the working class by casualisation of the workforce
Which one? The only one I can think is sort of similar is Irene but she literally blinded her own son - so I think the opposition to her was sort of justified.
i remember when Julia Gillard visited my school, I wqasnt at school that day because i had a dentist appointment. I later heard from my friend that one of the music teachers was not pleased by her visit and blasted Bohemian Rhapsody in our music/drama building while she was there... so essentially had it on loop for the whole day LUL
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Rizzler tits first!
Shit. Well, I'm both second and now I'm going to have to watch the bloody video.
This is worse than your fauna. *sulks*
You do have weirdly dead Aryan eyes though. No offence.
Ok. Fair enough. I've watched the rest of the video. Your eyes aren't remotely as dead as Julia.
Do not mention Zionism...
Oh yeah you forgot to mention how Rudd turned the australian government into drug dealers, disproportionately affecting lower socioeconomic areas and making western suburbs etc. kids starve because of the high price of the drugs (smokes) and their parents poor decisions due to their hereon like addiction, but apart from that all good. Julia F'd us with the mines and got us the lowly 13% as you said.
I find this video intriguing , so Rudd was knifed on the mining tax yet we have a UA-cam economist @Liethvo barrelling into Rudd Gillard & Labor on the gas reserve issue regularly weekly in the media with another lack of context being offered yet again and how this relates to the current government
"First Prime Minister to have also been human shark bait"
Harold Holt has entered the chat.
Holt the free speech, port Phillip Bay?
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Giiawwd daym
Holt is in a chinese sub dummy
@andytrox prime minister vs white shark
Rudd v Gillard should have been settled on the handball court
Now that’s undemocratic. Would be slaughter
You invoke ancient magicks, the sacred squares have long yearned for this
The gods shant be pleased.
I've been saying Trump and Biden should box on UA-cam for the Presidency. That's far more American than a lame duck waiting until 6 months before elections to drop out of the race and hand the nomination to his Vice President, while the other side runs for president in the same year he became a felon for soliciting sex from a C tier cornstar.
"Ich werde king of lunchball."
*Bounces sizzling handball towards Rudd.*
It was confusing as hell to me as a 12 year old when Rudd got replaced. Like, Howard had basically been PM my whole life, and then Rudd was gone in a flash. I didn't realise that that was a thing that could happen...
...This was before the prime ministership became a game of musical chairs in the 2010s.
I felt the same when Jim Bolger was knifed by Jenny Shipley in NZ in the 90s. As a kid I just couldn’t understand how that could happen.
Kevin lived in eumundi went to nambour high school with Wayne Swan. Julia was on the same boat as me in 1966. Such a cool trip across the Atlantic.
@@beckycorlett6962bro.
Yeah, I was still a LNP nazi at this point in my life, believing media and liberal propaganda. I am ashamed. Luckily through research, I grew. Trading economics, political and economics lectures, modern economic history, all influenced my political ideology. That, and my vision for the country. If my vision/self-corruption was different, I could be liberal/national. I think the following election was where I was able to influence and redeem myself.
The Howard years were very dark.
We're talking about a guy who had lived with his mum for most of his life and practiced law.
We lost funding for public schools and healthcare, in favour for funding rich private schools and subsidising the logging and mining industries.
Kevin Rudd got me my first laptop in 07. He can do no wrong in my eyes
I never received my laptop, still waiting on it
holy shit I remember that. What a fucking legend.
I still have mine, it was a sub par Acer but it worked
How bout his apologies to abos and giving them more money while making it harder for single mothers thst aren't indigenous to get payments. Fuck Kevin Rudd fuck all politicians
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I remember as a lad seeing Kevin Rudd in parliament spinning around in his chair as they talked about some boring nonsense. I couldn't relate more to a person in authority and haven't since.
Why? Dude is a massive tosser. He leaked and actively sabotaged his own party and helped Abbott win as a result, which gave us the Morrison years, robodebt, and the economic nonsense we're living with now.
He exploited the Emissions trading scheme nonsense by challenging Gillard during the height of it instead of backing one of the more important pieces of environment legislation.
Rudd is a tosser, always has been and always will be.
Same group as "the people's choice" Albenese who has been liberal literally and the very opposite on many issues that Shorten had public positions on - like legalisation, housing etc.
Kevin Rudd really was one of us, favourite PM in my lifetime, would vote for him again.
I asked Kevin Rudd how good he felt about winning his lawsuit against Peta Credlin (the one where she said he was data harvesting) and he said: 11 out of 10 mate. Legend.
I don't have such a problem with Julia but the way the media leveraged her to slander Kevin is just classic character assassination, you know the papers are up to something when they have anything nice to say about a labor mp.
They did the same with pumping up Crean to knife Beazley, after which they turned on him
Kevin 0Sigma > Mark Arbibidi toilet
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Also front up and expose the Andy Griffiths “Just” series
Hey you. Thanks for making Australian history accessible and interesting
@@Mr_M_Historyshit don't ruin my childhood, what did Andy Griffiths do?
Love it! You got all my sentiments exactly. She is a Labor Rat, but far better than any LNP member. Still, her putting her stiletto on Abbot’s neck was brilliant!!!🤣🤣🤣 sometimes you look at history, if something had changed… it would’ve affected nothing.. But unluckily that single decision to take the Labor leadership has massively negatively affected our history and future. I don’t see Albo being capable of a dominating win in elections or being highly foresight with decisions. But there is still strong hope as they easily outclass anything Morrison did.
K. Rudd is a legend! Australia was robbed when he was knifed in the back. He had so much integrity and public respect, that the only way he could be brought down was from the inside of the party.
Big time!!!
@@Sanguinarius9999 To be fair that was kind of his fault wasn't it? Establishing a massive rebate to the point that insulation work was just free money without also making sure regulation and oversight was established to avoid the inevitable results. My memory could be off since it was a long time ago but that was a pretty bad move.
I've been reading The Avoidable War, I'm not far into it but it's definitely an interesting read. I didn't know before that Rudd actually speaks Mandarin Chinese, the fact that so many foreign diplomats don't even speak the language of the countries they are diplomats to is sad.
@@Zuriki09 careful, you're getting close to suggesting diplomatic posts should be appointed based on some kind of merit !? Unthinkable heresy!
@@DreamGamingS2 You are quite correct. He also had warnings that there were potential safety issues where such a scheme had previously been implemented. Zero oversight did not help the scamming that took place on an industrial level. The scheme basically was to pump the economy with some cash. It would have been cheaper to just fill up the back of utes with cash and drive around the suburbs spreading it like confetti.
Oh man, where were you in 2010, when I was trying to convince people over the chat mic on TF2 that Rudd was better than Gillard?
I feel like Jordies was probably doing the same on CS: Source
I was playing TF2 arguing along side you, i was Demon the Pyro. Early 2010 was the best Australia has been. We all got $700 42" Plasma TV's
@@smalltime0 I hope so, I felt along those arguments. Especially when they kept brining up the Rudd hair dryer controversy
@@jamesburke2759 I was Spy and Solider back then 😄
I was in WoW chat doing it, and getting sent 'bleach' in the mailbox.
One of my fav Rudd facts is that he was apparently tutored at some point by Simone Leys, the famous Scholar of Chinese culture from Belgium.
I lived through it. Interparty squabbling does not interest me, who the leader of the party is, is a democratic decision by that party. I don't vote for a person, I vote for a party and its policies. I voted Labor at that particular election and I voted Labor at the following election as I really didn't care who the leader was. I just wanted Labor in power. That's all. Policy is determined by the government of the day, not one person. What I found appalling was how Rudd orchestrated a personal policy of destruction on Julia after he was ousted as party leader. Julia had Abbott calling out 'ditch the witch' while Rudd undermined her in the media at every possible opportunity. She and Labor had no chance at all, as the party was hammered constantly in the media from both the opposition and their own ex-leader. I remember this clearly as it drove me distracted. Either it was Abbott throwing fewments at Julia or it was Rudd - and the losers were the Australian voters who had a brawl (orchestrated by one person - Rudd), instead of a government, and what government they did have, undermining itself via sour grapes - which was to the gleeful benefit of the lnp. We ended up with DECADES of right wing, trickle down economics via the lnp because Rudd could not just let it go and support his party but instead put his personal issues ahead of the party and the country. The only reason I have come close to forgiving him is due to his championing of an enquiry into the murdoch press.
I love friendly jordies videos, but when I click on them I always forget that the entire Australian government makes me depressed 😢
Ain't that the truth mate!
Gillard, a female, a lawyer, a liar, an ALP member.
Julie Bishop, a female, a lawyer, a liar, an LNP member.
The insignia on the shirt varies, but they are the same kind of people.
Male or female, we desperately need a different kind of person to represent us.
Not just the government, but the general public too. To this day, Rudd is still being vilified by most Labor supporters (at least those that engage in social media) while Gillard continues to be touted as a shining example of what a PM should be.
Idk I tune into question time and have a good laugh
He also wrote the apology to the stolen generation, and in my view is the last p.m. to take indigenous affairs seriously at all.
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Albanese did too didn't he? What with the voice to parliament.
@@centricthemedic1517 that was more of a hate message honestly. I have talked with a couple people who were descended from the stolen generation, and one thing I have heard pretty universally was that "it was purely a ploy for good will". of course that's not to say they all think that, but a lot do, and for good reason. it was an ass policy.
@@centricthemedic1517yeah it really looks like he genuinely really tried. It's a shame. Too easy for the media to claim 'I haven't spent the time understanding what this is so it must be too vague.'
Hope we can continue our work on meaningful and just reconciliation regardless.
@@kornoyu Where do you think those people formed their opinion from? The actual crux of the issue, or because they watch TV?
I used to work in a 5 star hotel.Ive served both Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd. Kev was a lot nicer. Absolute legend. Julia was just mean and condescending.
My god he has one hell of a jawline.
Edit: Hearing Jordan say “rizz”, “skibidi”, and “rizzler” (along with all of the uhhh other stuff) killed a part of my soul. Jordan “Mogging” Friendlyjordies wins again I guess.
You mean one hell of a julline.
@@The_ZeroLine LMAO.
At least he wasn't jelqing
Sorry don't look that up 😂
@@rosshoyt2030 Sounds obscene. The bad kind of obscene.
Me, a Welshman, unexpectedly catching strays in this video about Australian political drama from the 2000's: okay then...
Just putting it out there- there a a lot now very Celts to be found in those Isles! Jordon knows his target and doesn’t miss
I voted for Kevin and was completely fkn livid when Gillard coups after the slightest pushback from mining. talk to me when we are a ACTUAL F(*^%G COUNTRY AND NOT SOME SANTOS PR HURDLE!
Yea it's really wild learning about that stuff after listening to people advocate for the status quo four your entire childhood
grrr the evil foreign company santos
@@chubletfletcher1462 Could of shocked me with hard they work for American interests.
But no-one could work with him, ffs. and then there was the press bomp bom
Fkn ditto
thank you for keeping me, an american high schooler, up to date on australian news for the last year
Pleeeeeaaaaaase don't let Trump win this election I'm an Australian and I'M scared what's gonna happen if he wins
@@ommanipadmehung3014 to be fair our politics is one giant shitstorm dedicated to making the elites more elite while fucking everyone else over and making Israel happy. Makes it hard to focus on something else.
jordan saying brainrot is the funniest shit 😂
If Rudd ran again I’d vote for him in a heartbeat
as a woman that voted for Kevin Rudd every time, it really bothered me that people assumed I would be happy that Julia knifed him and that we now had a female leader - like they just assumed as a woman that I should automatically back another woman and be happy about it. the ONE time I voted for Gillard, I did it not because I liked her and supported her policies, but because I despised Abbot and his Work Choices policies etc that much more.
You're from Queensland voting in the Griffith division? If the answer to that is no, then you did not, infact, vote for Kevin.
It puts the lotion on the skin, or it gets the hose again.
"Born in Queensland" BRO HE'S FROM NAMBOUR- NAMBOUR!!! fkin love it , actual legend , imagine being born in nambour and becoming PM
It's shocking how many similarities between modern Australian geopolitics and modern Greek geopolitics went down. If you replace Rudd with Karamanles and Gillard with Papandreou it's kinda the same story. In 2004 the former was elected and despite being aligned with the western camp, he was close to making a deal with the Russians regarding natural gas pipes. Immediately after that, the CIA ensure he resigns (rumors circulate that his family was threatened) and gets immediately replaced by the opposition party leader Papandreou who as a first order of business makes sure to cancel the natural gas deal. That was around 2009, when Greece really took the downward spiral never to rise at any level again. Similarly to Australia, this was the closest Greece ever came to becoming a sovereign state. The previous attempt was during the late 60's
fucking hell lads, hit that half-speed quick or it's gonna be like aussie louis rossman!
yeah the rossman shoutout!
huh?
are you trying to be overly australian?
@@thetubeboi6991Are you trying to look stupid? Because if not you're a natural at it.
Good :)
As an American I am having so much fun reading all of the first person accounts of these politicians. You all are awesome. Thank you!
Can't help but see the name and think "Goolia".
Ghoughlia
Her speech was basically a dirty hostage negotiation
Ive always believed that American stank was all over rudds outing,
yep. thats why after politics he was accepted to prestigious jobs in america
Not everything is an American conspiracy. And they're certainly not going to want to replace one Labor with another Labor that had a green coalition.
Rudd got replaced because he was unpopular and Labor got scared.
It seems there's a common theme between narcissistic people from above average family's stabbing each other in the back for personal gain, and us peasants are the ones who suffer.
As a Canadian from Vancouver, I have zero idea what this guy is talking about, but I appreciate it. Wish we had someone like this in British Columbia.
every time i've seen Rudd nattering away, he comes across like guy who likes to understand what he's talking about and if he understands it well, he's a battleaxe lol
most lasting legacy of Gillard was changing DSP to make it nearly impossible to get on, severely disabled Australians are trapped in Jobseeker hell because of her
Finally condensing a something I struggle to convey into only 15 minutes
i just realized how awesome it'd be to see a Jordy v Ben Shapiro debate. Fuck me that'd be the best.
hell no, i can't stand listening to that shapiro mossad agent for longer than 2 minutes.
We need to make that happen
UA-cam unite
Not gonna be very balanced, one is an independent journalist who brought the ridiculous amount of corruption in NSW to an international audience, got a deputy premier to resign in disgrace, got fire bombed (the ultimate show of a good journalist) and has fought back against the Murdoch media's character assassination of Labour. The other thinks that people will want to buy a flooded house and was so shit at debating that he had to resort to calling one of the UK's most conservative news presenters a communist.
@@cookiecraze1310 Yeah surely Ben is smart enough to know not to platform Jordan / take him on. One of the things about being a hack is not debating people you know are onto your grift.
I'm giving this video a like 👍 mainly because they've included audio of Kevin Rudd swearing. Top notch content 👌
In Australia "that's so julia" is actually taken as an insult.
I remember I was studying social work at TAFE when Julie stripped TAFE of funding - I had to leave my TAFE course and go back to washing dishes - it was so sad to see so many people have desperately needed educational opportunities taken away from them.
TAFE is state funded. Only the loans for students to undertake courses are federally funded - so which was it? Did you lose the loan or did the State government cut the course funding?
@@hincksman The SMH (I know, I know, just hold your reflexive gagging for a second) reported that Gillard cut $50 million worth of contracts held by TAFE that used public funding and instead awarded them to private providers. NSW Parliament's website also states that Gillard ended the NPASR agreement with the states and territories, having moved $1.75 billion over five years, which (from what I can tell) was designed to subsidise tertiary education courses up to a Cert III, for anyone without a Cert III or higher. OP could be referring to one or both of those.
@hincksman you shoukd do the smallest bit of research before yapping like that
@DarthVella that wasn't Gillard.
@@raylouis7013 Both sources I found claimed that the decisions were made by the Gillard government, can you give me some pointers as to where I should look for more information?
Still thank Kevin for the stimulus cheque, especially when I was in NZ. Came in handy for me at the time.
America manifest destining the Australian political institutions
Will Friendly talk about parliment inside trading with mining and the vaccy
Why don’t you?
@@DoctorProph3tBecause it holds more weight for a well known person like Jordies to fairly scrutinise all relevant political figures and stories from both sides of politics.
@@contenteater so you’re saying the facts have no substance, only the personality?
That’s a bad policy my guy
@@DoctorProph3t
Keep Reaching 😂
My point was merely that all people should question their hero’s as well as their opponents.
Clearly the original commenter doesn’t feel Jordies has been impartial in his ever glowing view of the Australian Labor party. Hence why they proposed that little test.
@@contenteater what test? What are you babbling about?
It’s really simple, if you feel a story should be talked about, talk about it, why wait for someone else to do it? That just sounds lazy and arrogant.
"There will be no Tarbon Cax".
Just found out that Gillard was born in the same TOWN that I was. Never been more distraught
I completely agree with everything you said. I liked Rudd he did a good job.
Almost had us there jordies. This is a historical labor grievance.
Regardless of how you Julia Gillard or her policies, you have to admit that she worked incredibly hard for her success and to put up with the disgusting behaviour of many people in parliament simply for being a woman. That being said, she was not a good replacement for Kevin Rudd and did not do well as Prime Minister.
Shit Japan 😂😂🤣 I can’t 😅😂
youtube just straight up suppressed this video from my recommended. its been out for 4 days now and im only seeing it now after waiting for this video for ages looking forward to it
I'm kinda shocked how off the mark Jordies is with this whole video.
The complete lack of other context around that knifing and election (see: backflipping on climate/emissions legislation, Australia having not lived through the knifing of PMs era, etc) is pretty concerning... But to then go into Australia-US politics and not address Rudd's recent 'just chill' rhetoric on Trump? You're doing exactly what you call out other journos on Jordies, telling half the story to fit your slant.
Like come on dude... we get you like Kevin, but you don't have to downplay Gillard in the process. Gillard had the NDIS. That alone is historic legislation that fits the Labor movement to a T. But then let's also include the Carbon 'Tax' (which Jordies has variously heralded as great legislation and Rudd had previously backflipped on), the MRRT (again, jordies loved it previously), plain cigarette packaging and we're off to the races for why she's rightly remembered as a truly effective Labor leader.
This whole video feels like the same kinda hit job Jordies has recently been the target of and should desperately know better. I'm disappointed.
It's because he harbours misogynistic tendencies.
I know, I know, he made fun of that accusation so it can't possibly be true! But it is. He rarely has ANYTHING nice to say about women in general, let alone female politicians. The only one I can think of which he has been somewhat respectful to is Plibersek.
Gillard brought in NDIS? Man how did I not know that.... Shame about all the innocent men who can't see their children because of her policies though....
@@Gantics-AnticsYou should look up the origin of parental alienation syndrome, you wouldn't be so quick to invoke it then.
At least she didn't eat her own ear wax
Shittiest Labor Prime Minister we've ever had?
No way it's Gillard! Billy Hughes, Chris Watson and James Scullin have to be the three contenders for the bottom.
Hughes has my vote.
Then again I think the only ones people remember these days are Whitlam, Hawke, Keating, Rudd and Gillard (well, Albanese, but he’s still PM)
I reckon Albanese has to be in the conversation as well.
I think the damage she inflicted is a sign of the times and still recovering from it
HOWARD was the Worst and History will show that..
Julia was on the same boat as me, we met at the maroochydore airport .
Lots of people yelled she was a liar, I saw in her a quality I see in few, I saw the same in David crisafulli.
Kevin was a kickass PM, He took no prisoners, Julia is a backstabber
Shithouse PM*
@@marnuscoreyempanadaslooseb6760she can be both
@@marnuscoreyempanadaslooseb6760 what made him bad?
@@MauriceOfInfiniteAtrocitiesthe knife in his back
Both were front and center ready and willing to do what ever the US state department ordered. Neither are worth glorifying.
Not true at all. Rudd was the best PM we've had since Whitlam when it came dealing with the US empire and their influence. Maybe that's not perfect for you but anyone more radical than that will never become PM to begin with. You need to be more pragmatic.
@@JewTube001 I think you will find Paul Keating was the prime minister 1991 to 1996. Rudd is an ass licking sychophant in comparison.
An extremely weird video considering Julia Gillard considering her work to establish the renewable energy target, the clean energy package, NDIS and the gonski reforms to schools.
The mantle of worst Labor PM belongs to the current one.
Yes yes yes finally!! Someone holding gilard accountable!
I was labour all the way until julia, she ended that, was a single parent at the time, could not believe the labour party was being less compassionate than john howard, made me realise we now had 2 right wing leaders
overall good video but not sure why you made the percentages for party preference comments around 11:25 when it looks pretty similar for KR and JG across 2010, throwing in a different table for preferred PM regarding KR which had a bigger percentage difference but then not showing the comparison for JG doesn't make sense other than to sell the point you tried to make. Felt more like a personal grudge/attack on JG given the similar stats KR had, I would have left that whole bit out, didn't add anything useful imo, if anything it just showed a bias.
From my understanding, party preferences are always extremley close as people tend to vote for the same party no matter what (i.e., its usually between a 60:40 and 50:50), and also fluctuate a couple percent as time goes consistently. So that nearly 5% difference is pretty big since nearly half of the country was going to be happy with Rudd no matter what and nearly half were going to unhappy with him no matter what
@@jarroddt agreed in general. My point was just around the difference percentage wise as there is barely any, KR max was 56%, min 49%. JG max was 55% and min 50%, theres practically no difference so no idea why that section was included, just felt odd that's all
@@TheEfthyy Oh my apologies, I misunderstood what you meant
I know it'll likely never happen, but if Rudd ever did run for PM again, I'd be out on the streets campaigning for him 24/7.
Nope, not since he has publicly supported Trump. He has lost all credibility with me over that.
@@raylouis7013 when the hell did he do that?
@@raylouis7013 No you witnit. He's always believed in diplomacy, always. You're purism helps no one at all.
@@datsephardicboi9358 He was being diplomatic at the RNC. Ray thinks Kevin should just burn all bridges who isn't perfect. May as well turn Australia into North Korea with that kind of extreme isolationist thinking.
Not me getting ready for bed and freaking out because of a notification from friendlyjordies that just says my name 😂
the logic hits where the print-media tells 'em not.... too
Hmm, there is something Jordan isn't saying or doesn't know. Like why did Wayne Swann, the legendary treasurer back Julia, and why did Shorten (Who Jordan admires) and much of the trade union MPs do the same. The narrative he is crafting is woefully incomplete. The actual truth is that the Union movement especially during the late 2000s and early 2010s became incredibly antagonistic to the Labor leadership in New South Wales and Queensland. Jordies has to acknowledge this.
He won't acknowledge it though.
@@tdaddy26 I still admire Jordan Shanks and I would support Labor in Australia. But if he was to do that he would have to reiterate the privatization battles that happened in NSW and Queensland under Bligh and Iemma. And the shenanigans of Michae Costa, (Dr. Evil.)
She's everywhere, she's so Julia
I’ve enjoyed your analysis over the years Jordan, but your sycophantic performance with Rudd in that hotel room that time really put me off.
You crack me up mate with your wit the Australian version of Jon Stewart
Surely I’m not the only one who remembers the Kevin Rudd: PM show that was on Rove 🤣 or was that a fever dream?
He indeed did appear on Rove
@@triwilly oh, I know he did but Rove did a little spin off show series on his show that was called “Kevin Rudd: PM” 🤣 I loved it
The Rudd laugh 🙏❤️
@@marcmcintyre4910 the best 🤣🤣
ua-cam.com/video/BEVEJr2Q_Os/v-deo.html
When I joined ALP 50 years ago ,I was horrified at the brutal use of numbers to benefit individuals.
Jordan, I disagree with your thesis. Gillard lost Rudd's majority due to the impact of the Minerals Council advertising campaign, designed to kill the mining super profits tax. Rudd was a great PM and his economic record stands alone, as you point out. However, after the intense media campaign from the Minerals Council and their ilk, Prime Minister Gillard formed a minority government and still managed to govern and implement a legislative program that was p[rogressive and positive.
Yes, I'm not happy about the removal of KR, however, that was a response to the intense media campaign and KR's failures as a leader to gain consensus and to bring his people with him, his inability to lead, to the point that his cabinet shafted him.
oh that mining industry speech.
Kevin 07 was the best!
To the best of my recollection, Gillard broke policy records.
Tell that to the millions of sexually assaulted people inside australia who would never have achieved and type of justice without Julia Gillard. To me, that is on single best thing any PM has ever done on behalf of Australian citizens. The RC into child sexual abuse would never have happened under any other Prime Minister. The churches and other institutions were laid bare as the predatory arsehats they were. Until Gillard , all of that was known and covered up by every leader we’ve ever had.
So don’t be minimising her contribution to Australian society.
@frenne_dilley what a load of BS a that doesn’t line up with the statistics. You’re speaking out of your but just because you’ve decided to hate women. Get back to me when the stats matches your biases enough to have a conversation. Of all SA, only 17% gets reported. Of that 17% , only a faction gets to court and only 3% of that 17% gets a conviction. So stop making things up in your head because you like to watch misogynistic arses rant about how they’re all victims of women. False allegations makes up less than 1% of all reported SA cases. If anything, those stats prove that rapists very rarely end up with convictions and they’re let loose to prey on others.
@frenne_dilleyYou lot really need to look up the origins of the parental alienation syndrome before you start throwing it around. Spoiler alert: it was created by a p£dophile sympathiser.
@frenne_dilley give you good odds that, like most such things, it made life much better who were on the wrong end of the problems with the previous system, while making it worse for those who were on the wrong end of the new system.
That's the usual way of these things: does a great job of solving the specific problem it's focused on but a terrible job at not breaking adacent matters. (mind you, the way political nonsense tends to shake out, the alternative is not even trying to fix the existing issue, and which state of affairs is better comes down to the coinflip of whether the job was done properly and even then depends on whether you were in a demographic being hit by the problems of the old system or one being hit by the problems of the new system or never had to interact with either).
@@bunnyvillainy that’s 5% of the 17% actually reported. So the overall amount of false allegations is minuscule when 83% of SA isnt even reported ………
Happy to be corrected...but didn't she also lower the age that the youngest child could be in order for a parent to claim the sole parent's pension?
I feel compelled for the first time to comment.
Blaming Gillard for the loss of votes is dismissing the incredible vitriol & shocking personal attacks on her from Abbott - aggressively pursued by the media. This level of negative, mysogonistic & sexist commentary in the media against a PM had never before reached such dizzying heights.
If we all agree that the MSM have unfairly influenced our political landscape - why not balance your comments about the loss of votes by acknowledging this?
And you seem to gloss over the obvious white anting that Rudd did during Gillards tenure. The Labor Party room voted for the change in leadership - members who were clearly worried they might lose their seats.
It wasn’t just one video of him losing his head - there were other issues, otherwise Rudd would have been supported by the party room.
& Gillards legacy is much more than the speech u refer to . What about her establishing a royal commission into institutional child sexual abuse? There are many more achievements than the speech.
I’m offended by this one sided video.
Damn, i had a "but" to offer in her defence however you nailed it with that last line tying it all together.
Rudd is my favourite PM I lived thru, but then I only arrived here in 95.
I always said Gillard was a shit pm but people always said it was because i was sexist no matter what i brought up about it, glad im not alone now.
You can be sexist and also be correct about Gillard being a shit PM.
All I could ever see was back stabber from Julia. And its all anyone could see Labor was for 10 years. In his term Rudd brought in reform policy that was quiet wild at the time. Julia put the breaks on that. Even on Foreign policy Bob Carr had to reign her in because she really was a lapdog for the US
Gender wars took over the whole debate on her, so it was impossible to actually get to the policies Australia needed.
Great retrospective bit Jordies. Excellent as always. As we approach elections, QLD of note, I'd love to see some more focused content.
Julia Gillard is Australia's Lady Macbeth.
"we took her as the lady in waiting and we made her Lady Macbeth and she never fully recovered from it" - Sam Dastyari
‘Yet all the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten her little hand’
Rudd is Skibidi Sigma Rizz and Gillard is Ohio Fanum Tax
Calling Gillard the worst labor PM in history is such an L take Jordies. The woman passed more legislation than any prime minister in history with a minority government and less than a whole term in office. That’s legend shit. Yeah the 2010 coup was fucked. But Gillard is a mad lass.
Sounds like you didn't even watch the video, all you can point to is how much legislation she did. Nothing about her backstabbing an ELECTED prime minister, nothing about her bending over to the mining companies, nothing about her making life incredibly hard for single mothers, nothing about her stripped funding from tafes, nothing about her being against marriage equality when in office.. yeah she passed a record amount of legislation. She also did a ton of bad things as well. Remember both of them.
OK Drew Pavloo
You lost all credibility the moment you said L take
He lost credibility when he inferred in his statement that 'passing legislation' should be considered a measure of success. What if that legislation was ineffective, overly bureaucratic or people just didn't want it? What if it was being guided by foreign influences, which in this case seems highly plausible? What a stupid argument to make
legislation that gave our citizen data whole slate to American government, and gave the two-party system more tax payer money to campaign over the smaller parties? yep great legislation. Gillard is a dreg on the shoes of Labor and an enemy of honest democracy.
I only hated Gillard because lots of elderly gentlemen would crack onto me due to being her doppelganger. Life was hard when she was PM
You could probably make a ton of money with a Gillard themed OF account if you so choose.
what the fuck?😂
This thread is gold
truly innovative thinking
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 what a creep
It was a really good speech though.
Yes, rubbish situation, deflecting allegations of sexism from the sexist-in-chief in order to protect a one-seat majority. But still, the way she metaphorically hipthrew him down the stairs with his own smug energy was a delight. Imagine where we'd be if say Jeremy Corbyn had been able to do something like that with the Israel lobby.
Too many traitors in government.
no such thing as a loyal government
Sure, the baddies repealed the carbon tax. It was still the best piece of policy to come out of AusGov in the last twenty years, and it wouldn't have happened without the minority government situation giving the Greens disproportionate influence. The two party system sucks, and having Labour in power maybe a 1/3 of the time isn't good enough when the Liberals hold power the other 2/3. The Australian political spectrum is slowly collapsing into a mosaic of medium-size parties and independents, and given the calibre of independents we're seeing, it currently seems like a good thing.
Yeah Imma just say it. I liked them both and think both deserve to be remembered as phenomenal PMs.
Usually a red flag when someone says Julia Gillard is their role model (narrowly focusing only on her speech about misogyny in parliament while ignoring all other things she did). Thanks for the vidya Jordie!
I appreciate the journalism, can you oil up and give me an Aussie shaker before you start next time
Idk why but I read “Julia” and my mind immediately went to
Julia
Julia Cantos
Julia
Julia Cantos
Gillard. If you are going to call all the male PMs by the surname use hers. You do come across as an arsehole when you do that.
Also Gillard passed more legislation, in a minority government than any other PM. She did a lot of good.
Rudd, for all that he was popular, was then and still is a mad lad - lot of respect for the man - was apparently an absolute f*g nightmare to work for.
Calling people who make less than a third of his salary at 5 in the morning asking them for a full briefing of something that came up at 2 am, when he'd had them working until after midnight (which apparently he did numerous times) is an arsehole move.
There’s a similar and interesting debate around this with regards to Vice President Kamala Harris and (former) President Donald Trump.
On one hand, the office holder should be referred to in the same manner regardless of their gender. However, women are typically referred to by their first name and men by their second. Is this inherently disrespectful or sexist? Donald Trump is not a woman nor is Kamala Harris a man. Maybe it’s a good thing to feminise the office of the President or Prime Minister to remove the inherent bias that these positions ought to be held by men.
So perhaps there is nothing wrong with using Kamala or Julia and feminising the o
@Buckets41369 there is actual research on it. Using someone's first name rather than their surname reduces their perceived authority and minimises the perception their accomplishments. It's the fact that we are trained as children to use adults' surnames and refer to peers by their first names.
It's got nothing to do with feminisation of the role it's about undermining the authority of the person in it.
this is so julia
Ah-ah, ah
Jordie it has to be said, this Rudd worshipping has to end before your credibility does. In Mandorin or plain English he was a dud. Rudd the Dudd! Your adoration is becoming a bit cult like, almost Trumpian. Don't be a MTG. Leave poor Julia alone! lol
My mates grandma went to school with Rudd and she said he was a cheeky little smart a** lol
Way to RIP on her for being a woman, that was the most awesome part, where you just could not get over how very female she was. Classic.
Labor did themselve no favours by overthrowing or challenging their own leaders too often. Labor might be better than the Liberals but the difference isn't enough. Australia needs a new Labor, one that is less corporate and more aligned with their original ideological position (representing the working class) lets not forget Rudd's wife owns a successful labourhire business exploiting Howards shafting of the working class by casualisation of the workforce
I know labor is junk. They're suppose to be better than the libs but what's the point when they screw up every chance they get.
Been doing as they are told since at least December 1967.
There was Queen of the Byzantine Empire whose character arc was very similar to Gillards.
Which one? The only one I can think is sort of similar is Irene but she literally blinded her own son - so I think the opposition to her was sort of justified.
may or may not have been a prostitute
We will never have a better thunderbirds puppet as prime minister
i remember when Julia Gillard visited my school, I wqasnt at school that day because i had a dentist appointment. I later heard from my friend that one of the music teachers was not pleased by her visit and blasted Bohemian Rhapsody in our music/drama building while she was there... so essentially had it on loop for the whole day LUL