@@BarkandJack Hi Adrian, nice watch... love the blue on white, similar to Omega's city edition for Singapore. Quick question: I dont think i will ever be able to afford a Swiss made tourbillion watch, what do you think of these Chinese made ones on Amazon? They're like 500 USD each in which the price is so minute compared to Rolex Label Noir tourbillion but it's still 500 dollars. I recall on one of your video when you bought that Rolex knock off and your feeling on it.
At the end of the day, Omega earned that Snoopy, for the superb performance of their watch when the chips were down, and all others failed, including Rolex.
@@wayneskelding3412 Astronauts often had a personal watch on them, there has been Seiko's, Bulova's and Rolex on board and more, but none had to face testing like the official selection, of which of course Omega were the last ones standing.
@morbeus Morbeus The Co-axial movement used by Omega is the first advancement in mechanical watch escapements in 200 years, yes they still make Moon watches, but they are definitely not living on past glories.
Omega did earn the NASA Snoopy award, but many Apollo era astronauts owned a personal Rolex GMT-master... and carried it to the Moon (Apollo 13, 14 and 17) while the Speedmaster was the company watch, like a good Audi or Ford but personally You really want a Porsche or Corvette
@@phmwu7368 Omega Speedmaster was the first pick by NASA exactly because many pilots and astronauts owned it as their personal watch and took it on numerous missions. Walter Shirra took his Speedy to space 7 years before anyone got to the moon. But the most important was the testing, that really was able to set contemporary watches apart after head-to-head comparison. And, according to some sources, Rolex failed the very first stage, with hands melting under heat.
Yes, me too. At least I will certainly get the watch if I get on the list, that’s something!
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I feel your pain... It's hard for a Rolex fanboy to admit what Omega did here. Yes an other Speedmaster, but what a watch ! Nothing to do with yet another Rolex with blue ceramic... The story behind it, the movement and even the "reasonable" price... everything is head and shoulders above what Rolex is doing. Good job Omega !
Sébastien Crettaz Do you like when Omega does stuff like a Snoopy watch? They make incredible watches. They don’t have to make all these special editions.
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@@rickjason215 I love Omega being accessible. I buy a watch to wear it, not to keep it in a safe and try to flip it for a few... And this snoopy is incredible indeed! You might be right about all the special edition, but at least people have the choice. Wich in my point of view is a good thing :)
It's not my cup of tea ...but hats off to Omega for helping to drive the industry forward with new ideas. It's £10k but it's arguable better than a Daytona and it's available to buy in your lifetime.
The Speedmaster design is so universal that you can literaly make hundreds of color variations with different details and all are going to look pretty good and fashionable. They sure are milking the Speedy hard but I can't really blame them, it looks great and the caseback is amazing.
Rolex is that moderately attractive girl that things she is gods gift to all, you approach but her attitude stinks. Don't ask her twice, plenty of fish in the sea.
That 50 Fathoms with 120 hour power reserve is also really nice. A little too expensive. I don’t know why Rolex has this pull. We know there are better watches.
@@rickjason215 agree, try on the bathyscaphe 43mm. it wears Ok for my 6.5 inch wrist and there is a 38mm version (not as nice). The dial has the most unique light sunburst on the dark grey and the hour markers twinkle. It costs the same as a sub but you can get it for less with a discount or preowend.
@@Jay-xr3sb It's probably a better watch than the Rolex. The Bathyscape has an 80 hour power reserve. I am switching off 3 watches and that comes in handy. I can probably wear the 43mm. I have a 7.25 wrist. I am going to go to an AD and try it on. You have the right attitude. Get the best watch for you, not the most hyped watch.
Hi Adrian. Great video, as always. Just to add some of my thoughts on the whole Rolex-Omega-Fanboy-Hypocrisy. I do agree that its not just a Rolex thing....however. Omega is at least accessible at some level. You can admire and aspire to own a 'limited' Speedy. Yet you can go out right now and spend your hard earned cash on a regular Speedmaster, Seamaster, Railmaster.....whatever. Seems like a consolation prize, but you know yourself how special and unique a mass produced watch can be regardless. That's just not the case for Rolex anymore. The barrier to entry is insurmountable.
I disagree with the notion that omega is doing the same thing as rolex in terms of making thing inaccessible. I own both omega and rolex. Paid a deposit for this snoopy in 2020. Despite the pandemic slowing things down, I still got it this year. Things to note: I never bought anything from this boutique prior to the snoopy. I was willing to put down a deposit before I knew any details about the snoopy. I still look in awe at this piece every chance I get.
You can. I'm not fan of the back but you will get it if you pay. They are given a delivery date. I think they know the demand is there so its almost made to order as they won't be sitting in AD windows.
I think Omega’s method of selling these is different from before, and hopefully it ends up as a win for everyone. From an outside observer’s POV, it looks more similar to ordering a custom car (put money down to have your name in the factory queue). This way Omega gets better data on the true demand for this product, and can adjust accordingly (and probably sell more units overall, which is a win for them). Truly interested customers win because they will eventually get the watch they want, even if it’s waiting for several months (but it’s a stronger guarantee, instead of the Rolex AD courtship game). Maybe the only people that lose out are the grey market/flippers (because the scarcity of this watch is ultimately an unknown), and that’s OK imo
I own a Speedmaster and when I saw this watch before your video I thought what a stunning watch. When I saw the price I thought Omega was talking the piss because how much more would it cost to make compared to a standard offering. After your video I could see where the value is and good luck to all the collectors who can get one.
I've been drooling over the old snoopy since i got into watches. When I saw this... man. That blue is stunning. And the back of the watch is very clever. Not a gimmick at all, fits the idea of the watch perfectly and the persona of snoopy. LOVE it.
The caseback is more creative than anything Rolex/Tudor has ever produced. Rolex buyers- "oooh look it's a different coloured bezel. Please AD, let me give you a wristy so I can maybe, one day buy one"
Sounds like you there's some serious sexual tension between you and Rolex/Tudor, Anthony. I too used to rag on the brand, until of course, I owned one. Now I don't want much of anything else.
@@Jay-xr3sb Anyway, Omega movements aren't finished to jewelry standards either so why bother to have exhibition case-back?! And, why should I own a watch with a needless complication? Just a personal opinion, anyone can buy what they want :)
Absolutely stunning, those hands and the case back detail are beautiful. Yeah 8k+ is a high price to pay but will you lose money? Certainly not. The Speedmaster is one of the most iconic watches produced along with the Submariner, if i had 8k to spend on either, I'd be walking away with the Snoopy.
It's just one variant of a watch you can buy (I mean the normal version) from a shop tomorrow in contrast to most sport watches on the Rolex catalogue. And that caseback is something very nice and creative so it's not just a color change.
This is a homerun for me. I see everyone flocking to this model even Rolex fanatics because it is. Spectacular piece. So is fair to say this piece has crossed over and made a massive splash
That back is beyond amazing! At first glance I though WTF. Once I saw it in motion I fell in love. At that price I will likely never even tough one of these, much less own one. I do see a major difference between Omega and Rolex. Omega actually runs out. Rolex artificially creates the wait list and makes some people not important enough to buy.
you didn't give the due importance to the 14 seconds it took snoopy to go across the moon, a Speedmaster was used to time a crucial 14 seconds burn during the mission, not just a random count.
I’m a Rolex “fanboy” too but I also love the Omega Speedy’s..people complain that Omega has too many LE speedy’s but now they have come out with one that is not and tbh this is a very cool watch and compared to some Rolex models (if we look at just how much much watch you are getting for your money and not just the value retention) is well worth the asking. Rolex kept increasing the price of their watches every year without updating much🤷♂️ I defended the new Rolex Submariner releases and so I don’t fall in the category of a Rolex hater..with regards to the waitlist - I’d rather pay a refundable deposit and get the watch in a month or two than be on an abstract waitlist for 5 years 😅 but hey we all have our own opinion 😃
My first reaction to seeing the case back on the Silver Snoopy was something you'd see in the watch section at the gift store in Disney Land...oh and I absolutely love it. It's fun, different and beautiful. Reading the history in the lead up with the Apollo 13 mission the public was loosing interest in the Apollo missions, Lovell, Haise and Swigert couldn't afford to be like Armstrong who was disconnected from the public. They needed to make this mission fun and interesting...that's with this watch is, fun!!! Buy your tourbillons, buy your grand compilations..they are serious watches they have their place. But Snoopy on the dial and flying in his space module on the back will always bring a smile to my face and that why it has a place.
This Speedy is stunning and I would love to have one. Maybe someday when the hype calms down. On your point of limited availability, this is a special watch - no it's not "special edition" but still a special watch - and therefore in demand. Rolex intentionally limits availability on their regular production models. That's a huge difference and like comparing apples to oranges. I can walk into an Omega boutique or AD and walk out with a Moonwatch professional whether I've shopped there before or not - try to say that about any production steel Rolex.
Beautiful watch, amazing movement, tremendous history and just bloody fun! Omega are killing it in my opinion, and I wear my Speedmasters and Seamasters more than my subs as they just wear better on my wrist. Great vid!!
@@Jay-xr3sb I have no fear of getting mugged as I don't live in a country that neuters their citizens ability to be safe (you know like the UK). My subs are both 40mm and because of the super case do wear larger than even my 42 mm Omegas.
@@andrewgiblin3468 humm, I wonder if the new sub would even be ok. With regards mugging, 99.9% of the UK population is happy that we aren't attacking and defending with guns instead of fists. Trust me, you guys look like the crazies to most of the world. Can't go back you have so many out there.
@@Jay-xr3sb I don't live in the US, Canada my friend and we tend to look on the law and order situation in the UK with the same distaste the UK looks at the US. The fact that your first thought was to do with mugging illustrates this point perfectly I've never once given a second thought to wearing any watch anytime and anyplace. That said I think the new subs wear just as large if not larger, I'm think of selling mine and going for a vintage sub as I think they just look more in proportion. I'd rather now wear the new 41 OP than the new sub, same movement, more elegant case easier to get (well maybe)??
@@andrewgiblin3468 I tried on the 39mm op and it wore a little large due to it being white, all dial and a long end link to end link length. Even if the new op is only 1mm bigger and not the listed 2mm, I think it would wear too big for me, or better put i dont think that size suits it style. Unless you want the loud colours, then its a high end fashion watch style to me. I hear that they have slimmed down the lugs etc. I was hoping the old 39mm design would be adopted into a new range of 36mm without the double baton markers. There is no white option at 36mm or 41mm. no doubt rolex will trickle this out next year for everyone to get excited about something that was just popular and taken away. Fair play on the sub, I would love a modern version of the pre ceramic cases. I found the bracelets and clasps too cheap to be paying so much for the older ones but the case looks good. The new 40.5mm sub is the closest it will get, the last ones were plain boxy yet everyone convinced themselves that it was ok. I've never been mugged or known anyone to be, but you will be a target in certain parts of London. Its a congested city with many new folk. Still a lively place to live pre covid. I dont know what you're implying, you have tougher legal sentences? What do you mean by the means to defend yourself? I have been to vancouver and the surround nature is nice, but being in my 30's it would bore me to death. You have to drive long stances to do anything. In the same time I get from London City Airport to any number of European cities. Each country has its ups and down, cant Believe you've got Trudeau in again.
This watch isn't only available in the Omega boutiques. Granted, the boutiques will be supplied these watches first. But they will become available in other official Omega retailers (expect a wait to get it though).
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Yes, there might be a waiting list for the new Snoopy but this edition is somehow limited. The thing is that Rolex has waiting lists for almost every possible model available. Try to buy the Submariner and try to buy the Speedmaster. Then compare Grey market and waiting lists.
Yes, omega has sooooo many “limited editions” but I’ve always loved the Silver Snoopy, but that’s because of its history with the Apollo 10. Great video!
Love you videos and comments. I ordered one first hour it was announced and i paid $5000 down and was told first quarter 2021 delivery. But it is a beautiful watch
The history of the Apollo 13 mission and the Snoopy pin Omega received is maybe the best story of a watch in history. That said, Omega beat the snot out of the story for the money. I’ll never afford one but it’s an amazing watch.
Don't think they are. Its not going into ADs so it a bit like made to order. Not a bad idea to not over or under produce. Taking money upfront isnt great but its a list of certain orders rather than time wasters. Nothing like Rolex like Adrian is trying to imply.
@@Jay-xr3sb Adrian is right about the hypocrisy of mocking an overpriced blue stainless steel sports watch, only to be enamoured by a blue stainless steel sports watch. As for the shenanigans, I guess time will tell. You have to say, though, it's not doing the Rolex bottom line any harm and I don't blame Omega for wanting some of that.
@@craigroberts5965 who's hypocrisy, he has strawmaned omega 'fans' saying they all hate rolex. Rolex tactics are hated buy everyone but those with access (like youtuber rolex fanboys). Let's see if its actually the case on this one variation of one watch.
Hahaha Rolex fan boy getting his panties in a bunch!! Seriously, media hype and of course the 2 different camps, there is going to be the social media frenzy of love and hate....love it (the hype frenzy)....good take on the piece!
Adrian, it's not ok when any of them play games. But you are mistaken, I went right in and put my deposit down. Limited run, not limited or numbered edition mate. Keep up the good work.
The only problem I have with the speedmaster is there are so many of them. Now the Snoopy is a different proposition, agree the Blue is perfect...now all I have to do is wait for the secondary, which will be out of my budget and end of that...end of story. Thanks for the share A, great content as usual.
I like it, but am not a fan of the glass on Speedies. The dome on the crystal is going to get banged. I understand that sapphire crystal glass is very hard, but I am not willing to put that to the test. I think the watch is incredibly attractive from the side-on view, even though it's very deep. The manufacturing is superb.
Totally agree that the hipocracy is strong. That being said... I love this watch and though similar look, compared to the 'moon watch', there's sapphire, ceramic, and new movement. Beyond all of that my favorite part I think, is simply the applied markers and Omega logo, makes the dial so much more impressive.
The difference of course is that here we have a single special edition model that will be difficult to get your hands on. With Rolex, every sport model is going for wildly above retail. My nearest Rolex boutique legitimately has zero watches in stock. Walk into any omega boutique and you can buy any of their flagship models exactly at retail. With Rolex we are talking about entirely an different universe of hype train and price inflation.
Its understandable if certain models made in smaller volume is hard to get thus command a premium but for Rolex, it has gone to a point where ALL Stainless Steel men's watch including DJ 36, DJ41 and even OP41 are not available at my local AD and these watches are not made in small volume...
It matters who you know. I wanted the 60th Anniversary James Bond watch, but my local Omega AD couldn't get one. I told a friend who's been a master watch maker for 35 years and he had one for me 3 days later for a mere 500 dollars over list. Once I've saved up the money I'll have him get me a Silver Snoopy as well.
It's a really cool watch, Omega have done well with this. £8250 is alot of money for a watch let alone no bracelet but if people want it there's no stopping them. We are in the era now if something is desirable it will be waitlisted!
Back here in Singapore... AD already required a bundle purchases in order to get this new snoopy together with another Speedy 🤦♂️ hope they dont follow what Rolex AD is doing.
I nearly wrote something worth reading, but then I repeatedly pressed backspace. I'm now happy with what is written, I hope Omega are happy with pressing back space.
Want one of these? Don't worry! Parnis or Bliger will soon make something very similar for about $US 60-70 that will look something similar to the original (from a distance). No big deal!
Follow up to my previous comment: Just went to the Omega website where you can sign up for the waitlist, no deposit required. Also just got off the phone with my local AD. Even though he is not a Boutique he will be getting some in and my name is also on that list. Not only was a deposit not required he was specifically directed by Omega NOT to collect one. These are going to be hard to get and they will probably go fast (and the secondary market will be nuts) but there is no way this compares to the nonsense Rolex would be putting you through.
I am so glad I've read your post because I have had exactly the same experience but @Bark and Jack won't have it. I phoned the Omega boutique in Birmingham and my local independent AD who have have both put me on their respective lists without even having to pay a penny deposit, never mind the full amount as Adrian says some of his viewers reckon they've had to pay! To be fair to him he has responded to my posts about this a couple of times now but refuses to accept he's being lied to. I suppose it's just as possible that it's Rolex fan boys putting such bullshit out there to suit their agenda than it is anything else. I am number 130 something at the Omega boutique but number 4 with my AD who has ordered 5 so I am hopeful I'll pick up my Snoopy by this time next year, fingers crossed lol
@@charliezobel511 He tries to fair and balanced, but Rolex is his brand and he's pretty up front about his status as a "fanboy". I think he gets a bit chaffed when another brand (successfully or not) pulls the waitlist trick that Rolex has made so famous and used to such great effect in creating the illusion and perception of exclusivity. They're nice watches but I refuse to go through the contortions required to get one. But if you do buy into the brand, you buy into the myth as well. It's a package deal.
@@tomscott4438 in this vid he's wearing a Hamilton which is part of the Swatch Group, same as Omega, so he can't be such a Rolex fan boy surely. I would love a Batman or a Root Beer but there ain't a cat in hell's chance of me weighing on over list price for either hence I have really bought in to Omega in the last year 'n' a half. I got myself the two tone sedna+steel Diver 300 last summer, then in the Autumn I got the 007 Commander's watch because I was offered it at a really great price. It was an impulse buy and I did end up feeling the James Bond branding on it was a bit over the top almost immediately after getting it. Though I took a 200 quid hit on it to trade it in for the three hand orange bezel Planet Ocean about a month ago my AD let me have the new'un at 20% discount and at the pre September price rise RRP too so that more made up for it! I won't be trading either in for this Snoopy though so I will have to work out how I am going to fund it because I won't do it 'interest free for 24 months' as I won't get any discount on it that way. Most likely do it on the credit card and get a new card for a 0% balance transfer.
That was actually funny. It brings up exceptionally valid points of our bias in what we believe is overhyped, under appreciated and what is just a damn good piece.
@@BarkandJack dunno mate, why the hate? Yes they churn out alot of variations but most are really available. They are still nowhere near the games I have experienced via Rolex ADs this week.
Nah, i keep hearing this about deposits and long lists..I got mine from a London boutique in March… no deposit was requested, I’d just been a prior customer (nothing really super high end just the NTTD and the bond 50th ) and simply asked to go into the pool when they began to filter through.. lucky maybe, but they had an allocation of 6 and I guess right place right time I ! But i agree it should be a level playing field for enthusiasts .. and not preferential clients and who won’t wear and end up flipping for a quick buck !.. that way The Rolex farce lays.
Great video, thank you! I suppose its difficult to say since we don't know the production number and how long it will be in production. But can you guess how it's value would hold up? This would be a HUGE investment for me and not a decision taken lightly, so I'm trying to figure out if it's likely to hold its value or maybe even appreciate? Thank you!
Just to be fair if u can rant on Rolex the day it releases the same way u rant on Omega it would be ideal .....But wait we dont live in an ideal world ...Your a Rolex fanboy and praise Rolex and rant on Omega .. and I'm cool with that...
@@BarkandJack Its alright Adrian...U just need to embrace it...U can just look at ur Rolex release video a month ago and see the stark difference in tone and praise...Its ok to be biased man...Ur not a news agency or paper :)...Its quite natural to feel defensive when probably the best release of 2020 doesnt have a crown as its logo :)
@@watchmedicine7747 Considering the covid pandemic there have been two great releases in 2020, the slimmed down Submariner is now so much better and this awesome celebration watch from Omega which is just so fresh and engaging. All I ask is that reviewers provide balance.
To be fair, you can't get standard edition Daytonas or Subs, but you can walk into literally any Omega boutique with the money and walk out with numerous Speedmaster or Seamaster models. It isn't the lack of availability of limited editions with Rolex that's an issue. It's the lack of availability of the standard models. That's why people are salty. Then again, look at the value retention between the two brands...
Exactly. It was kind of tone deaf from Adrian to accuse Omega of doing Rolex's thing when this Snoopy did not replace every other Speedmaster at retail. Then he would be justified in pointing out hypocrisy in the community, but obviously Omega hasn't done that, so he's grasping at straws a bit. When Rolex makes a new watch, they discontinue every previous one, forcing you to wait years for the new one, or pay exorbitant amounts for one on the used market. But what if you want to buy the old one used? Well, since Rolex just discontinued it, they just shot up in price! That's the Rolex strategy, and Omega has never done that. And his comparison to the new BB58 and how "it's just a blue Speedmaster". I mean, that case back alone is more inventive than anything Tudor has done in years. So again, these comparisons are exaggerated a bit.
@@jonathansaraco Personally, I find snoopy watches dumb and don't know why it's even a thing. would buy a bb58 blue over this any day. But my other comments stand. Omega just takes a totally different strategy toward most of their watches. It does NOT help their value retention, but it IS nice that fans can actually buy then.
Great video, I was angry you were bashing Omega again, I laughed at the silliness throughout, frustrated I'm not likely to ever get the watch, and in total agreement over the hype-beast being in full flow. Keep up the great work.
At least Omega is giving options though. The standard Speedmaster still exists, and is readily available at a discount. That’s a pretty important distinction, wouldn’t you agree Adrian?
@@scooterino3650 don't bother with logic, its a troll and he wants to get higher up on the waitlist. Just wait for the next rolex review and flip within a year....batman anyone
Dammmmm it you can never hate on snoopy if you were born pre 90s. That watch is awesome... thank you Omega because all men down deep are kids... that's why we collect shit that we love and don't need...
I love my glycine combat sub and seiko flightmaster but I appreciate what omega and Rolex do.... 1 day I shall get one of those watches...explorer mark 2 here I come.
You always have the people that can’t appreciate what many brands are doing they just like hating on some (Rolex) when they are the ones who have advanced the industry the most
Love this watch mainly because of the nostalgia of watch the peanuts cartoons on a sunday afternoon many, many years ago. Makes me appreciate the back even more. However the resale on day one is insane. :(
I like how at the very end you slip in the reason many of us are not Rolex fanboys... because they do this to almost every watch in the brand. Walk into most any AD and you'll find an empty display case except for three ladies watches, a Chelini in rose gold, and a Date-Just with the fluted white gold bezel that no one wants. Plus maybe a Milegaus or something from three years ago. That's it. No Sub's, GMT's, Explorer's, Daytona's... Omega is pulling this crap on one watch, ONE.
Two years on and I still can’t find one. Omega built such a damn fine watch but it seems that they are all being flipped for much more than its worth. I’ll buy one if I can find it at retail but that’s where I have to draw the line. Good video.
It's just hard to beat a blue dial, unless of course you are Rolex and you can colour the dial whatever colour you like and it will still be wait listed.
It's the same with tech, phones etc or any other interest - geeks argue and bicker like children. I like to make an informed, careful decision but at the end of the day I'll buy what I like.
your point on rolex vs omega hypocrisy would be valid if it wasn’t every damn rolex... seriously a fuckin sub? Can’t get a sub at retail? gtfo I can walk into any omega AD or boutique and walk out with almost any watch that day. I walked into Rolex and they told me i’m searching for a unicorn in regards to a black sub lol
Omega is very smart for how they madketed the speedy. They arent saying this specific watch is the moon watch and all others are something else. They are all moon watches and its just what kind of design do you want. The demand isn't for a new speedy its for a new color scheme and design which I think is a very smart marketing campaign. I personally love the silver snoopy and already got on a list at my AD for one. I was told they couldn't take money for the watch at the time but the wait time is about 1 year now and they would let me know when I can make a down payment. Hope it's soon.
Hey Adrian, 😅 cool video. I have one on order. Expect to get in in March. I already know, that my 3 year old daughter will love this watch... ☺️ Her Grandfather (my father) has an original Moonwatch baught in 1969.. I have the 50th year edition.. Fits in the line...
@@triniboy05 no. The dealer already sold me several watches, so we trust eachother. Got the new „regular“ Speedy last week. One of the first in Germany.
The difference between this Speedmaster and Rolex Models like the submariner is that Omega comes out with an entirely new Design in one of their watches...they did not just make it 1mm larger like the new sub 🙄
When they called was that just to register your interest or was it because they have secured you one? I contacted my AD but I only have a Rolex history with them so maybe the Omega sales guy will deem me unworthy.
I love this, and desperately wish i could justify it, but then again i also love the Blackbay 58 Blue, granted I'm less keen on the Rolex sub release though.
What a lovely watch! I have a 1980s Speedmaster and a couple of Rolex and love them all! I have been looking enviously at a beautiful Vacheron+Constantin lately A great watch is a great watch no matter what the brand.
I was offered this watch by my AD before the pictures even came out and I passed on it, its not a LE, it will not double or triple in price. Because of hype Omega will manufacture as many as they can sell and after a year or two the chrono will be flooded with those watches.
The expression "with a twinkle in the eye" was often a description in a product development spec as part of the company culture of Omega. Some guys had fun there and the bosses let them run with it. Great!
Interjecting yourself during the intro was pure class! 😂 Right up there with (though maybe just behind) your previous Limited Edition Speedmaster vid intro!
It's not exclusive to Omega Boutiques....I am getting mine from my Omega authorized dealer. Boutiques will likely get more than the ADs...but it's not boutique exclusive - at least in the US. I know boutiques in the US were also taking 50% deposits back in December of 2019 for this watch as I was offered such. Will be interesting to see how long it takes folks to get one who were not already in the queue for one.
I agree that this watch and previous snoopy are over hyped. Fantastic watches, but over hyped. But the difference between Omega and Rolex is that only 3-4 Omega's watches are hyped (mostly limited speedy editions) while almost EVERY Rolex sport watch in steel is over hyped and over priced. Also, waiting lists for Rolex watches are still waaaaay longer than Omega's. Anyway, both Omega and Rolex produce fantastic watches, they are both legendary brands.
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@@Thesupermanning White Hamilton Khaki Field Watch. Supre cool watch.
@@BarkandJack Hi Adrian, nice watch... love the blue on white, similar to Omega's city edition for Singapore.
Quick question: I dont think i will ever be able to afford a Swiss made tourbillion watch, what do you think of these Chinese made ones on Amazon? They're like 500 USD each in which the price is so minute compared to Rolex Label Noir tourbillion but it's still 500 dollars. I recall on one of your video when you bought that Rolex knock off and your feeling on it.
And if Snoopy is selling at a premium it’s “over hyped” but if almost all Rolex sport models sell for crazy premiums it’s “going up in value” 🤷♂️😅😅
This is no more the case concerning the Daytona.
There is no fight ! The speedmaster has won by KO !
This guy is a Rolex fanboy
At the end of the day, Omega earned that Snoopy, for the superb performance of their watch when the chips were down, and all others failed, including Rolex.
You do know that a Rolex GMT was on Apollo 13 ? The command module pilot Jack Swigert used one,
@@wayneskelding3412 Astronauts often had a personal watch on them, there has been Seiko's, Bulova's and Rolex on board and more, but none had to face testing like the official selection, of which of course Omega were the last ones standing.
@morbeus Morbeus The Co-axial movement used by Omega is the first advancement in mechanical watch escapements in 200 years, yes they still make Moon watches, but they are definitely not living on past glories.
Omega did earn the NASA Snoopy award, but many Apollo era astronauts owned a personal Rolex GMT-master... and carried it to the Moon (Apollo 13, 14 and 17) while the Speedmaster was the company watch, like a good Audi or Ford but personally You really want a Porsche or Corvette
@@phmwu7368 Omega Speedmaster was the first pick by NASA exactly because many pilots and astronauts owned it as their personal watch and took it on numerous missions. Walter Shirra took his Speedy to space 7 years before anyone got to the moon. But the most important was the testing, that really was able to set contemporary watches apart after head-to-head comparison. And, according to some sources, Rolex failed the very first stage, with hands melting under heat.
I don’t care, I f**king love that flying snoopy.
Yes, me too. At least I will certainly get the watch if I get on the list, that’s something!
I feel your pain... It's hard for a Rolex fanboy to admit what Omega did here. Yes an other Speedmaster, but what a watch ! Nothing to do with yet another Rolex with blue ceramic... The story behind it, the movement and even the "reasonable" price... everything is head and shoulders above what Rolex is doing. Good job Omega !
The thing about Rolex is it is so durable. I wore one every day for 10 years. No services. Didn’t even think about it and it kept perfect time.
Sébastien Crettaz Do you like when Omega does stuff like a Snoopy watch? They make incredible watches. They don’t have to make all these special editions.
@@rickjason215 I love Omega being accessible. I buy a watch to wear it, not to keep it in a safe and try to flip it for a few... And this snoopy is incredible indeed! You might be right about all the special edition, but at least people have the choice. Wich in my point of view is a good thing :)
Limited to 9 billion pieces.
yes but you still can't get it because you are the 9billion and one.
I think it's trillion
It's not my cup of tea ...but hats off to Omega for helping to drive the industry forward with new ideas. It's £10k but it's arguable better than a Daytona and it's available to buy in your lifetime.
At least ots not the same identical watch for 50 years
The Speedmaster design is so universal that you can literaly make hundreds of color variations with different details and all are going to look pretty good and fashionable. They sure are milking the Speedy hard but I can't really blame them, it looks great and the caseback is amazing.
OmegaxSwatch would agree with you.
Rolex is that moderately attractive girl that things she is gods gift to all, you approach but her attitude stinks.
Don't ask her twice, plenty of fish in the sea.
That 50 Fathoms with 120 hour power reserve is also really nice. A little too expensive. I don’t know why Rolex has this pull. We know there are better watches.
@@rickjason215 agree, try on the bathyscaphe 43mm. it wears Ok for my 6.5 inch wrist and there is a 38mm version (not as nice).
The dial has the most unique light sunburst on the dark grey and the hour markers twinkle. It costs the same as a sub but you can get it for less with a discount or preowend.
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But you have to see it in person.
@@rickjason215 hype for the sake of hype. People who don't know diddly about watches buy them as a statement that they "made it" in life.
@@Jay-xr3sb It's probably a better watch than the Rolex. The Bathyscape has an 80 hour power reserve. I am switching off 3 watches and that comes in handy. I can probably wear the 43mm. I have a 7.25 wrist. I am going to go to an AD and try it on. You have the right attitude. Get the best watch for you, not the most hyped watch.
Hi Adrian. Great video, as always.
Just to add some of my thoughts on the whole Rolex-Omega-Fanboy-Hypocrisy. I do agree that its not just a Rolex thing....however. Omega is at least accessible at some level. You can admire and aspire to own a 'limited' Speedy. Yet you can go out right now and spend your hard earned cash on a regular Speedmaster, Seamaster, Railmaster.....whatever. Seems like a consolation prize, but you know yourself how special and unique a mass produced watch can be regardless.
That's just not the case for Rolex anymore. The barrier to entry is insurmountable.
I disagree with the notion that omega is doing the same thing as rolex in terms of making thing inaccessible. I own both omega and rolex. Paid a deposit for this snoopy in 2020. Despite the pandemic slowing things down, I still got it this year.
Things to note:
I never bought anything from this boutique prior to the snoopy.
I was willing to put down a deposit before I knew any details about the snoopy.
I still look in awe at this piece every chance I get.
Because the demand is real
and you know he's biased towards the other brand😜 just tries to pretend to hide it.
Yeah, it is a nice watch, only if you can get it at retail price....
You can. I'm not fan of the back but you will get it if you pay. They are given a delivery date.
I think they know the demand is there so its almost made to order as they won't be sitting in AD windows.
You will get it at retail. It is a limited run, not a limited edition. You can walk into any AD, and put your deposit down for late October release.
It isnt nice for 10k😂
Want,want,want,want,want.
Want.
@@vvvhhhhhbb Rolex Steel Sports are also no limited edition. Now walk into an AD and tell them you want to buy one 😂. First think, then talk lol...
Regardless of hype, the engraved out snoopy on the subdial is awesome.
I think Omega’s method of selling these is different from before, and hopefully it ends up as a win for everyone. From an outside observer’s POV, it looks more similar to ordering a custom car (put money down to have your name in the factory queue). This way Omega gets better data on the true demand for this product, and can adjust accordingly (and probably sell more units overall, which is a win for them). Truly interested customers win because they will eventually get the watch they want, even if it’s waiting for several months (but it’s a stronger guarantee, instead of the Rolex AD courtship game). Maybe the only people that lose out are the grey market/flippers (because the scarcity of this watch is ultimately an unknown), and that’s OK imo
I own a Speedmaster and when I saw this watch before your video I thought what a stunning watch. When I saw the price I thought Omega was talking the piss because how much more would it cost to make compared to a standard offering. After your video I could see where the value is and good luck to all the collectors who can get one.
I've been drooling over the old snoopy since i got into watches. When I saw this... man. That blue is stunning. And the back of the watch is very clever. Not a gimmick at all, fits the idea of the watch perfectly and the persona of snoopy. LOVE it.
The caseback is more creative than anything Rolex/Tudor has ever produced.
Rolex buyers- "oooh look it's a different coloured bezel. Please AD, let me give you a wristy so I can maybe, one day buy one"
They need to give people a reason to buy it.
Spot on! I thot only the earth will rotate but never can imagine is snoopy on a shutter! Pretty cool.....
Sounds like you there's some serious sexual tension between you and Rolex/Tudor, Anthony. I too used to rag on the brand, until of course, I owned one. Now I don't want much of anything else.
@A. B. thats as creative and complex as rolex get as a watchmaker.
Even then its a huge piece of bling that hides the movement.
@@Jay-xr3sb Anyway, Omega movements aren't finished to jewelry standards either so why bother to have exhibition case-back?! And, why should I own a watch with a needless complication? Just a personal opinion, anyone can buy what they want :)
Absolutely stunning, those hands and the case back detail are beautiful. Yeah 8k+ is a high price to pay but will you lose money? Certainly not.
The Speedmaster is one of the most iconic watches produced along with the Submariner, if i had 8k to spend on either, I'd be walking away with the Snoopy.
3 years later and it's now 27k usd.
It's just one variant of a watch you can buy (I mean the normal version) from a shop tomorrow in contrast to most sport watches on the Rolex catalogue. And that caseback is something very nice and creative so it's not just a color change.
This is a homerun for me. I see everyone flocking to this model even Rolex fanatics because it is. Spectacular piece. So is fair to say this piece has crossed over and made a massive splash
This timepiece is stunning! I personally love wearing this one. It’s an absolutely a treat to wear. I’m honored to have this watch.
That back is beyond amazing! At first glance I though WTF. Once I saw it in motion I fell in love. At that price I will likely never even tough one of these, much less own one. I do see a major difference between Omega and Rolex. Omega actually runs out. Rolex artificially creates the wait list and makes some people not important enough to buy.
you didn't give the due importance to the 14 seconds it took snoopy to go across the moon, a Speedmaster was used to time a crucial 14 seconds burn during the mission, not just a random count.
I like the case back as much as the dial and the hands keep up the work much love from Holland
Thanks buddy. 🙌🏻🙌🏻
I’m a Rolex “fanboy” too but I also love the Omega Speedy’s..people complain that Omega has too many LE speedy’s but now they have come out with one that is not and tbh this is a very cool watch and compared to some Rolex models (if we look at just how much much watch you are getting for your money and not just the value retention) is well worth the asking. Rolex kept increasing the price of their watches every year without updating much🤷♂️ I defended the new Rolex Submariner releases and so I don’t fall in the category of a Rolex hater..with regards to the waitlist - I’d rather pay a refundable deposit and get the watch in a month or two than be on an abstract waitlist for 5 years 😅 but hey we all have our own opinion 😃
I pre-ordered mine yesterday. Delivery in 10-12 weeks. I’m a massive snoopy fan first and a watch fan second so had to have this.
That joke about it being "this week's Speedmaster" was pretty damn funny.
Interesting watch. Love how Omega does anything they want.
I know, its like a 0.3mm case change wouldn't be enough for them
Jay Rolex is living in your head rent free.
@@brads1545 I dream of Lange
Jay and I of Roger Smith.
My first reaction to seeing the case back on the Silver Snoopy was something you'd see in the watch section at the gift store in Disney Land...oh and I absolutely love it. It's fun, different and beautiful. Reading the history in the lead up with the Apollo 13 mission the public was loosing interest in the Apollo missions, Lovell, Haise and Swigert couldn't afford to be like Armstrong who was disconnected from the public. They needed to make this mission fun and interesting...that's with this watch is, fun!!! Buy your tourbillons, buy your grand compilations..they are serious watches they have their place. But Snoopy on the dial and flying in his space module on the back will always bring a smile to my face and that why it has a place.
This Speedy is stunning and I would love to have one. Maybe someday when the hype calms down. On your point of limited availability, this is a special watch - no it's not "special edition" but still a special watch - and therefore in demand. Rolex intentionally limits availability on their regular production models. That's a huge difference and like comparing apples to oranges. I can walk into an Omega boutique or AD and walk out with a Moonwatch professional whether I've shopped there before or not - try to say that about any production steel Rolex.
Rolex is producing more than ever.
Try the same with Snoopy or 321...
Beautiful watch, amazing movement, tremendous history and just bloody fun! Omega are killing it in my opinion, and I wear my Speedmasters and Seamasters more than my subs as they just wear better on my wrist. Great vid!!
Is that in part due to safety and not getting mugged?
I have a planet ocean 2500, would you happen to know if a sub would wear larger?
@@Jay-xr3sb I have no fear of getting mugged as I don't live in a country that neuters their citizens ability to be safe (you know like the UK). My subs are both 40mm and because of the super case do wear larger than even my 42 mm Omegas.
@@andrewgiblin3468 humm, I wonder if the new sub would even be ok.
With regards mugging, 99.9% of the UK population is happy that we aren't attacking and defending with guns instead of fists.
Trust me, you guys look like the crazies to most of the world.
Can't go back you have so many out there.
@@Jay-xr3sb I don't live in the US, Canada my friend and we tend to look on the law and order situation in the UK with the same distaste the UK looks at the US. The fact that your first thought was to do with mugging illustrates this point perfectly I've never once given a second thought to wearing any watch anytime and anyplace. That said I think the new subs wear just as large if not larger, I'm think of selling mine and going for a vintage sub as I think they just look more in proportion. I'd rather now wear the new 41 OP than the new sub, same movement, more elegant case easier to get (well maybe)??
@@andrewgiblin3468 I tried on the 39mm op and it wore a little large due to it being white, all dial and a long end link to end link length. Even if the new op is only 1mm bigger and not the listed 2mm, I think it would wear too big for me, or better put i dont think that size suits it style.
Unless you want the loud colours, then its a high end fashion watch style to me.
I hear that they have slimmed down the lugs etc.
I was hoping the old 39mm design would be adopted into a new range of 36mm without the double baton markers.
There is no white option at 36mm or 41mm. no doubt rolex will trickle this out next year for everyone to get excited about something that was just popular and taken away.
Fair play on the sub, I would love a modern version of the pre ceramic cases. I found the bracelets and clasps too cheap to be paying so much for the older ones but the case looks good.
The new 40.5mm sub is the closest it will get, the last ones were plain boxy yet everyone convinced themselves that it was ok.
I've never been mugged or known anyone to be, but you will be a target in certain parts of London. Its a congested city with many new folk. Still a lively place to live pre covid.
I dont know what you're implying, you have tougher legal sentences? What do you mean by the means to defend yourself?
I have been to vancouver and the surround nature is nice, but being in my 30's it would bore me to death. You have to drive long stances to do anything. In the same time I get from London City Airport to any number of European cities.
Each country has its ups and down, cant Believe you've got Trudeau in again.
Just solved the waiting period... I’m gluing my Snoopy pin on my Speedie moon watch!🤣 Very nice watch & a laid back, humorous review🤔
This watch isn't only available in the Omega boutiques. Granted, the boutiques will be supplied these watches first. But they will become available in other official Omega retailers (expect a wait to get it though).
Yes, there might be a waiting list for the new Snoopy but this edition is somehow limited. The thing is that Rolex has waiting lists for almost every possible model available. Try to buy the Submariner and try to buy the Speedmaster. Then compare Grey market and waiting lists.
Yes, omega has sooooo many “limited editions” but I’ve always loved the Silver Snoopy, but that’s because of its history with the Apollo 10. Great video!
I immediately gave you a thumbs up after the first 15s of the video because I thought, "Welp, it's 2 years later and you were EXACTLY correct."
Love you videos and comments. I ordered one first hour it was announced and i paid $5000 down and was told first quarter 2021 delivery. But it is a beautiful watch
The history of the Apollo 13 mission and the Snoopy pin Omega received is maybe the best story of a watch in history. That said, Omega beat the snot out of the story for the money. I’ll never afford one but it’s an amazing watch.
Omega joining in the shenanigans doesn't justify Rolex doing it. It's just equally reprehensible
Don't think they are.
Its not going into ADs so it a bit like made to order.
Not a bad idea to not over or under produce.
Taking money upfront isnt great but its a list of certain orders rather than time wasters.
Nothing like Rolex like Adrian is trying to imply.
@@Jay-xr3sb Adrian is right about the hypocrisy of mocking an overpriced blue stainless steel sports watch, only to be enamoured by a blue stainless steel sports watch.
As for the shenanigans, I guess time will tell. You have to say, though, it's not doing the Rolex bottom line any harm and I don't blame Omega for wanting some of that.
@@craigroberts5965 who's hypocrisy, he has strawmaned omega 'fans' saying they all hate rolex.
Rolex tactics are hated buy everyone but those with access (like youtuber rolex fanboys).
Let's see if its actually the case on this one variation of one watch.
What's the shenanigans? Walk into AD and put deposit down. It's a limited run, not edition. They will take orders until the run number is matched.
@@vvvhhhhhbb exactly. They don't want it sitting in AD windows, but it if you want it.
Hahaha Rolex fan boy getting his panties in a bunch!! Seriously, media hype and of course the 2 different camps, there is going to be the social media frenzy of love and hate....love it (the hype frenzy)....good take on the piece!
Adrian, it's not ok when any of them play games. But you are mistaken, I went right in and put my deposit down. Limited run, not limited or numbered edition mate. Keep up the good work.
whenever Omega releases a new watch i dont even Check it out anymore, i just hit my pals like: seen the new speedmaster, yeah na yeah na yeah na
The only problem I have with the speedmaster is there are so many of them. Now the Snoopy is a different proposition, agree the Blue is perfect...now all I have to do is wait for the secondary, which will be out of my budget and end of that...end of story. Thanks for the share A, great content as usual.
I'm loving this Omega! (Fanboy here 😂) Appreciate the coverage Adrian. Thanks for all you do and stay safe and healthy! 👍🏾
Haha. Thanks Darell. 🙌🏻
WTF is Rolex? 🤔😂 I just put myself on the waiting list for the Snoopy. What a stunning watch! Love it from the bottom of my heart.
I like it, but am not a fan of the glass on Speedies. The dome on the crystal is going to get banged. I understand that sapphire crystal glass is very hard, but I am not willing to put that to the test.
I think the watch is incredibly attractive from the side-on view, even though it's very deep. The manufacturing is superb.
Phenomenal success for Omega with this one. Awesome watch.
at least you can get a normal speedmaster for retail.
Totally agree that the hipocracy is strong. That being said... I love this watch and though similar look, compared to the 'moon watch', there's sapphire, ceramic, and new movement. Beyond all of that my favorite part I think, is simply the applied markers and Omega logo, makes the dial so much more impressive.
The difference of course is that here we have a single special edition model that will be difficult to get your hands on. With Rolex, every sport model is going for wildly above retail. My nearest Rolex boutique legitimately has zero watches in stock. Walk into any omega boutique and you can buy any of their flagship models exactly at retail.
With Rolex we are talking about entirely an different universe of hype train and price inflation.
Its understandable if certain models made in smaller volume is hard to get thus command a premium but for Rolex, it has gone to a point where ALL Stainless Steel men's watch including DJ 36, DJ41 and even OP41 are not available at my local AD and these watches are not made in small volume...
It matters who you know. I wanted the 60th Anniversary James Bond watch, but my local Omega AD couldn't get one. I told a friend who's been a master watch maker for 35 years and he had one for me 3 days later for a mere 500 dollars over list. Once I've saved up the money I'll have him get me a Silver Snoopy as well.
Its a good looking watch. Omega folks had a lot of fun creating the back animation.
It's a really cool watch, Omega have done well with this. £8250 is alot of money for a watch let alone no bracelet but if people want it there's no stopping them. We are in the era now if something is desirable it will be waitlisted!
Back here in Singapore... AD already required a bundle purchases in order to get this new snoopy together with another Speedy 🤦♂️ hope they dont follow what Rolex AD is doing.
@@FirestormAA At least omega let you do that. Rolex does not. Oh, they will ask you to buy a Hublot!
@@daniellew2271 true...... very true..... lol anything stuck on their showcase will be the likely one force to bundle with....lol
I nearly wrote something worth reading, but then I repeatedly pressed backspace. I'm now happy with what is written, I hope Omega are happy with pressing back space.
Such a cool watch. That back look brilliant. Isn't the normal speedy moonwatch £4k ish new? Seems like a massive increase just for snoopy.
It's blue and white. And that makes it cool to me. Just like if Rolex came out with a red bezelled Sub, I'd say that was cool.
Want one of these? Don't worry! Parnis or Bliger will soon make something very similar for about $US 60-70 that will look something similar to the original (from a distance). No big deal!
Apart from the snoopy its a lovely watch.
Never considered Omega before but OMG this watch......👌👍
Snoopy is very cool! Love that case back!
Follow up to my previous comment: Just went to the Omega website where you can sign up for the waitlist, no deposit required. Also just got off the phone with my local AD. Even though he is not a Boutique he will be getting some in and my name is also on that list. Not only was a deposit not required he was specifically directed by Omega NOT to collect one. These are going to be hard to get and they will probably go fast (and the secondary market will be nuts) but there is no way this compares to the nonsense Rolex would be putting you through.
I am so glad I've read your post because I have had exactly the same experience but @Bark and Jack won't have it. I phoned the Omega boutique in Birmingham and my local independent AD who have have both put me on their respective lists without even having to pay a penny deposit, never mind the full amount as Adrian says some of his viewers reckon they've had to pay!
To be fair to him he has responded to my posts about this a couple of times now but refuses to accept he's being lied to. I suppose it's just as possible that it's Rolex fan boys putting such bullshit out there to suit their agenda than it is anything else.
I am number 130 something at the Omega boutique but number 4 with my AD who has ordered 5 so I am hopeful I'll pick up my Snoopy by this time next year, fingers crossed lol
@@charliezobel511 He tries to fair and balanced, but Rolex is his brand and he's pretty up front about his status as a "fanboy". I think he gets a bit chaffed when another brand (successfully or not) pulls the waitlist trick that Rolex has made so famous and used to such great effect in creating the illusion and perception of exclusivity. They're nice watches but I refuse to go through the contortions required to get one. But if you do buy into the brand, you buy into the myth as well. It's a package deal.
@@tomscott4438 in this vid he's wearing a Hamilton which is part of the Swatch Group, same as Omega, so he can't be such a Rolex fan boy surely. I would love a Batman or a Root Beer but there ain't a cat in hell's chance of me weighing on over list price for either hence I have really bought in to Omega in the last year 'n' a half.
I got myself the two tone sedna+steel Diver 300 last summer, then in the Autumn I got the 007 Commander's watch because I was offered it at a really great price. It was an impulse buy and I did end up feeling the James Bond branding on it was a bit over the top almost immediately after getting it. Though I took a 200 quid hit on it to trade it in for the three hand orange bezel Planet Ocean about a month ago my AD let me have the new'un at 20% discount and at the pre September price rise RRP too so that more made up for it!
I won't be trading either in for this Snoopy though so I will have to work out how I am going to fund it because I won't do it 'interest free for 24 months' as I won't get any discount on it that way. Most likely do it on the credit card and get a new card for a 0% balance transfer.
That was actually funny. It brings up exceptionally valid points of our bias in what we believe is overhyped, under appreciated and what is just a damn good piece.
When Adrian says the date to clarify which new speedmaster- I hollered
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@@BarkandJack dunno mate, why the hate?
Yes they churn out alot of variations but most are really available.
They are still nowhere near the games I have experienced via Rolex ADs this week.
No hate bud, I have the mechanical drawings of the FOIS framed in my office, doesn't mean you can't appreciate an excellent joke
@@adamsmithproperties2528 i ment Adrian try to manufacture an omega vs rolex fanboy argument, gets the views in i guess
Nah, i keep hearing this about deposits and long lists..I got mine from a London boutique in March… no deposit was requested, I’d just been a prior customer (nothing really super high end just the NTTD and the bond 50th ) and simply asked to go into the pool when they began to filter through.. lucky maybe, but they had an allocation of 6 and I guess right place right time I !
But i agree it should be a level playing field for enthusiasts .. and not preferential clients and who won’t wear and end up flipping for a quick buck !.. that way The Rolex farce lays.
Great video, thank you! I suppose its difficult to say since we don't know the production number and how long it will be in production. But can you guess how it's value would hold up? This would be a HUGE investment for me and not a decision taken lightly, so I'm trying to figure out if it's likely to hold its value or maybe even appreciate? Thank you!
Love that piece - can’t wait to get it ✌🏻✌🏻
Been offered a place on the list but isn’t arriving for at least 3 months. It will be a lovely collectors piece for the collection.
Just to be fair if u can rant on Rolex the day it releases the same way u rant on Omega it would be ideal .....But wait we dont live in an ideal world ...Your a Rolex fanboy and praise Rolex and rant on Omega .. and I'm cool with that...
Haha. I’m really not that much of a fan boy of modern Rolexes, I’m just petty and like to share my thoughts. 🍻
@@BarkandJack Its alright Adrian...U just need to embrace it...U can just look at ur Rolex release video a month ago and see the stark difference in tone and praise...Its ok to be biased man...Ur not a news agency or paper :)...Its quite natural to feel defensive when probably the best release of 2020 doesnt have a crown as its logo :)
@@BarkandJack lol yeah...sure
@@watchmedicine7747 Considering the covid pandemic there have been two great releases in 2020, the slimmed down Submariner is now so much better and this awesome celebration watch from Omega which is just so fresh and engaging. All I ask is that reviewers provide balance.
Just buy all brands you like my friend. Then there is 😌
To be fair, you can't get standard edition Daytonas or Subs, but you can walk into literally any Omega boutique with the money and walk out with numerous Speedmaster or Seamaster models.
It isn't the lack of availability of limited editions with Rolex that's an issue. It's the lack of availability of the standard models. That's why people are salty.
Then again, look at the value retention between the two brands...
Exactly. It was kind of tone deaf from Adrian to accuse Omega of doing Rolex's thing when this Snoopy did not replace every other Speedmaster at retail. Then he would be justified in pointing out hypocrisy in the community, but obviously Omega hasn't done that, so he's grasping at straws a bit. When Rolex makes a new watch, they discontinue every previous one, forcing you to wait years for the new one, or pay exorbitant amounts for one on the used market. But what if you want to buy the old one used? Well, since Rolex just discontinued it, they just shot up in price! That's the Rolex strategy, and Omega has never done that.
And his comparison to the new BB58 and how "it's just a blue Speedmaster". I mean, that case back alone is more inventive than anything Tudor has done in years. So again, these comparisons are exaggerated a bit.
@@jonathansaraco Personally, I find snoopy watches dumb and don't know why it's even a thing. would buy a bb58 blue over this any day.
But my other comments stand. Omega just takes a totally different strategy toward most of their watches. It does NOT help their value retention, but it IS nice that fans can actually buy then.
Great video, I was angry you were bashing Omega again, I laughed at the silliness throughout, frustrated I'm not likely to ever get the watch, and in total agreement over the hype-beast being in full flow. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Ross. I was trying to bash the community’s hypocrisy more than Omega. 🍻
Bark & Rolex
Go to your AD and put the deposit down. You will get one.
At least Omega is giving options though. The standard Speedmaster still exists, and is readily available at a discount. That’s a pretty important distinction, wouldn’t you agree Adrian?
@@scooterino3650 don't bother with logic, its a troll and he wants to get higher up on the waitlist.
Just wait for the next rolex review and flip within a year....batman anyone
Dammmmm it you can never hate on snoopy if you were born pre 90s. That watch is awesome... thank you Omega because all men down deep are kids... that's why we collect shit that we love and don't need...
Back to the "double tap dislike" shtick?
Love it.
I double tapped the like button just incase.
The watch looks beautiful. Would love to get my hands on one.
I love my glycine combat sub and seiko flightmaster but I appreciate what omega and Rolex do.... 1 day I shall get one of those watches...explorer mark 2 here I come.
You always have the people that can’t appreciate what many brands are doing they just like hating on some (Rolex) when they are the ones who have advanced the industry the most
Love this watch mainly because of the nostalgia of watch the peanuts cartoons on a sunday afternoon many, many years ago. Makes me appreciate the back even more. However the resale on day one is insane. :(
I like how at the very end you slip in the reason many of us are not Rolex fanboys... because they do this to almost every watch in the brand. Walk into most any AD and you'll find an empty display case except for three ladies watches, a Chelini in rose gold, and a Date-Just with the fluted white gold bezel that no one wants. Plus maybe a Milegaus or something from three years ago. That's it. No Sub's, GMT's, Explorer's, Daytona's... Omega is pulling this crap on one watch, ONE.
Two years on and I still can’t find one. Omega built such a damn fine watch but it seems that they are all being flipped for much more than its worth. I’ll buy one if I can find it at retail but that’s where I have to draw the line. Good video.
The new Speedmaster Silver Snoopy is just a piece of art - incredible interesting piece and far far more interesting and attractive than a Daytona
It's just hard to beat a blue dial, unless of course you are Rolex and you can colour the dial whatever colour you like and it will still be wait listed.
It's the same with tech, phones etc or any other interest - geeks argue and bicker like children. I like to make an informed, careful decision but at the end of the day I'll buy what I like.
your point on rolex vs omega hypocrisy would be valid if it wasn’t every damn rolex... seriously a fuckin sub? Can’t get a sub at retail? gtfo
I can walk into any omega AD or boutique and walk out with almost any watch that day.
I walked into Rolex and they told me i’m searching for a unicorn in regards to a black sub lol
Omega is very smart for how they madketed the speedy. They arent saying this specific watch is the moon watch and all others are something else. They are all moon watches and its just what kind of design do you want. The demand isn't for a new speedy its for a new color scheme and design which I think is a very smart marketing campaign. I personally love the silver snoopy and already got on a list at my AD for one.
I was told they couldn't take money for the watch at the time but the wait time is about 1 year now and they would let me know when I can make a down payment. Hope it's soon.
Hey Adrian, 😅 cool video. I have one on order. Expect to get in in March. I already know, that my 3 year old daughter will love this watch... ☺️ Her Grandfather (my father) has an original Moonwatch baught in 1969.. I have the 50th year edition.. Fits in the line...
@@triniboy05 My Dealer said, we have to wait... 💁🏻♂️🙄 Maybe in Summer.
@@triniboy05 no. The dealer already sold me several watches, so we trust eachother. Got the new „regular“ Speedy last week. One of the first in Germany.
The difference between this Speedmaster and Rolex Models like the submariner is that Omega comes out with an entirely new Design in one of their watches...they did not just make it 1mm larger like the new sub 🙄
The other difference is one has a legendary timeless design. The other is still working on it.
Bark and Jack I think the Classic Speedmaster is as Timeless as a sub 😅
@@BarkandJack indeed, Rolex will get it right one day 🤣
@@BarkandJack now you're just trolling for views.
You must be on a waitlist for the next Kermit/Gmt/Daytona.
@@BarkandJack But which is which?
Is it really going to trade above retail? It’s not limited and my AD called already...
My guess it is will resell for over retail. I doubt it will be be like the old snoopy 45, but I think it will be waitlisted for sure.
Are you going to buy it to resell?
@@rickjason215 exactly, its not rolex. Flippers should focus their attention there
When they called was that just to register your interest or was it because they have secured you one? I contacted my AD but I only have a Rolex history with them so maybe the Omega sales guy will deem me unworthy.
Weak eye dominant yes so as it turns out I need to pay a deposit to secure delivery by....March 2021
I love this, and desperately wish i could justify it, but then again i also love the Blackbay 58 Blue, granted I'm less keen on the Rolex sub release though.
What a lovely watch!
I have a 1980s Speedmaster and a couple of Rolex and love them all!
I have been looking enviously at a beautiful Vacheron+Constantin lately
A great watch is a great watch no matter what the brand.
I was offered this watch by my AD before the pictures even came out and I passed on it, its not a LE, it will not double or triple in price. Because of hype Omega will manufacture as many as they can sell and after a year or two the chrono will be flooded with those watches.
Like the new Snoopy v3, now the question, will it be easier to buy a 2019 Ed White or 2020 Snoopy for retail?
The snoopy on the sub dial is ok, but the case back reminds me of a Jacob and co watch, do like the og speedmaster and the seamaster 300m,
The expression "with a twinkle in the eye" was often a description in a product development spec as part of the company culture of Omega. Some guys had fun there and the bosses let them run with it. Great!
Interjecting yourself during the intro was pure class! 😂 Right up there with (though maybe just behind) your previous Limited Edition Speedmaster vid intro!
Nice if you have an extra 50k laying around. Crazy!
Omega - Waitlist for one watch
Adrian- OMEGA IS ROLEX
Rolex- LOL
It's not exclusive to Omega Boutiques....I am getting mine from my Omega authorized dealer. Boutiques will likely get more than the ADs...but it's not boutique exclusive - at least in the US. I know boutiques in the US were also taking 50% deposits back in December of 2019 for this watch as I was offered such. Will be interesting to see how long it takes folks to get one who were not already in the queue for one.
The best thing about the Snoopster is the animation and the Silver dial that oxidises to black in 5 years....
Amazing watch, not a snoopy fan but I appreciate the relationship.
I think Omega nailed it with this watch. Nicest looking Speedmaster since the reduced version. But the price with this loss of value? No.
I agree that this watch and previous snoopy are over hyped. Fantastic watches, but over hyped. But the difference between Omega and Rolex is that only 3-4 Omega's watches are hyped (mostly limited speedy editions) while almost EVERY Rolex sport watch in steel is over hyped and over priced. Also, waiting lists for Rolex watches are still waaaaay longer than Omega's. Anyway, both Omega and Rolex produce fantastic watches, they are both legendary brands.