Sue Jefferson I mean they don’t eat and they don’t use the bathroom, and if their altered biology allows them to feel comfortable in the higher heat without sweating, I’m not really sure what a borg ship would smell like besides metal and gas fumes. Maybe you might get the occasional rotting flesh, but I’m not sure there would be much else.
The fictional fact they don't consume food, they never run, always so calm, they don't sweat and their body is most likely infested with nanorobots... The Borg seem odorless. Even though, their skin always look so moist, must be like a sauna there on such borg cubes. But I always imagined the Borg drones walking around with open anusses, as they never consume, there is no need for bathroom breaks, that anus muscle must be on it's most relaxing moment. For a possible "smell" - I think of dried up poop smell, very moist, damp thickness of the air, but as we know from Star Trek First Contact, they just walked around on the starship hull outside in space, so oxygen is not needed. But yet, when the crew of Voyager beam inside the Borg Cube, they can breathe, unless they use some kind of shielded shell around their bodies. (not everything is logic in Star Trek) If there was air inside the Borg Cube, it would be moist, dampy thickness to it with the strong scent of dried up poop (from the anal juices leaking out from a fresh batch of newly assimilated drones) but if there was no air, then you smell nothing. Like your question would be: "Does Space have a smell?"
Am I the only one who thinks Unimatrix 0 was a good thing? It let Drones retain a sense of Individuality while regenerating, which essentially meant they could keep their own civilization in their own way, which might have made assimilation more palpable to make civilization and would have made the Borg more efficient, as all Borgs wanted to return to the collective to be with their family and friends in Unimatrix 0 during regeneration.
It detracted from perfection in some way. In part 2 the Queen talks to a boy there and tells him his parents 'miss' him suggesting when they enter Unimatrix Zero they aren't part of the hive mind.
I’ve always wondered why the Queen and/or the Collective care. So the drones are individuals in Unimatrix 0, so what? They lose any memories when they leave, and go back to being drones. What difference does it make?
a couple of things that have always bugged me about this scene 1) why do you have to escort a drone to the queen instead of just making him? 2) why do you need an access pad to enter the queen's chamber, the drones are all wifi connected or the very least blue-tooth enabled. 3) why does the queen have to verbally communicate, again, blue-tooth. 4) the queen should know that the drone does not know anything, since she can hear his thoughts. 5) I though the borg couldn't voluntarily disconnect a drone from the hive mine, since they are all interconnect. Like removing a arm or a leg.
1. I guess, because she planned to disconnect him and knew they would be needed. 2. Maybe some sort of addtional security. 3. Partly narration purposes for the viewers and partly, because she planned to diconnet him and wanted to be sure to reach him. 4. Since the problem seems to be on an indivual level maybe she thought returning him to it would help him to remember. 5. Maybe they need some preparation for it or it simply does not work like that. In the end the answers can only be theories.
My guess for the final question: yes, the Borg could not voluntarily disconnect a drone from the hive but... think of the Unimatrix 0 issue as a cancerous growth. What do you do with tumors? You remove them. Essentially, she was removing and conducting a biopsy on a tumor outside the main body.
That's the part that bugs me the most. Unless this dude was assimilated last week, he should have reverted to "we." Everything else about the scene is just for the viewers benefit...
@Jason Briski: I do think the Borg were overused in general. They initially were meant to be a one-time menace, but they were too compelling to leave alone. The Borg (like the Daleks in Doctor Who) have become less and less serious as a foe due to overexposure. The Borg when introduced sent one cube and nearly destroyed the Federation. Voyager encountered the Borg every other week and managed to survive. Yawn. Things I do like Voyager did: 1) Unicomplex 2) Transwarp conduits 3) 29th century Borg drone Things I hated: 1) The continued use of the idea a Borg drone won't attack until you are perceived as a threat. That's ludicrous. The moment someone wearing a Starfleet uniform materializes on a cube, they should be fried by a dozen phasers. 2) The Borg Queen: she makes NO sense. None at all.
Borg should have expanded Unimatrix Zero for better marketing: Join the collective and you days will be filled with safe, low stress work, and you nights will be filled with dreamy bliss. They might get more volunteers joining that way.
Like seriously. Drone by day with tech that pretty much surpasses all others. Free time that has endless possibilities. I mean, It would sell me on joining. The Borg just needed better PR and people would have flocked to them. Maybe a better hierarchy that allowed the minds to flourish and actually explore new ideas. Perhaps this is how the Borg was intended to work from the start but the Queen somehow took over and corrupted the collective.
TNG humanized them as well with drones severed from the collective and introduced the Borg Queen as a bit of a horn dog gettin' it on with Data. There was some weird stuff with her and Locutus as well.
@@troyterry6919 Later TNG episodes/ movies had them as less threatening. Hugh was just a scared Borg child and they merely kidnapped Data and psychologically messed with his head instead of assimilating him to get the information they needed.
That's the problem...the Borg was meant to be a one-time threat, but they kept going back to them. Voyager did the same thing with Species 8472. They were truly intimidating, then they made them silly and laughable with one of the dumbest episodes in all of Voyager canon.
Hugh was an adolescent Borg who spent most of his early life as a Borg. It is possible this drone was assimilated recently and was able to recall some elements of individuality as Picard did when he returned to the Enterprise after Wolf 359.
"Wait, dismantle him. Bring me his cortical array." If I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that uttered throughout my life..... I would have 4 dollars.
My inner cyberpunk is getting such a woman woody from all this gadgetry. (Borg Queen's spine still freaks me out as much as it did when I was a kid though.)
To me, Sussana's Borg Queen seemed......pissed all the time. Like there's this seething anger that she tries to hold back. Alice's Borg Queen revels in her power. And there's just something so ethereal about the way Alice delivers her lines. Sussana's Queen is threatening, but Alice's Queen is both dangerous and sexy. I love it.
Eh, sexy, revelling in power, looking for a consort... They all seem pretty wrong for the Borg to me. Susannah's Borg Queen seemed more in line with what they're supposed to be; cold, efficient, ruthless and dispassionate in their pursuit of perfection.
Alice's version will always be my absolute favourite. So solicitous, so machiavellian, so damn sexy for a weird slimy thing wearing 4 hours of make-up. Susanna's was good, but Kreig should have won an academy award for hers. Imagine, she got Data to get a woody for .000000000197 nanoseconds. Which will be remembered by us humanoids, for an eternity.
even if thats her purpose it really kills the whole idea of the borg for me. They no longer seem cold and inhuman, but just another alien race with a stupid villain at their head. It doesn't help that the borg queen always acted with such emotion
I find it rather interesting that they still had one important one leading "individual" since she did not serve the purpose of procreating compared to other more hive mind like species. Although I'd guess that somewhere in a society you need a position that gives purpose that chooses the way. I guess they thought having an individual which holds the chosen position somebody who is less susceptible for the change brought on the Borg through assimilation would ensure they kept there course.
Why would the borg be emotionless? Nothing in their ethos says they dislike emotions and they're all organic beings so wouldn't emotions be an expected part of the package?
Do you remember TNG's episode hugh? What a great deal it was, that hugh used the designation 'I' insted of 'we'? Now, in voyager, borgs are individuums as it seems
Maybe it's one of the effects of when Hugh was returned to the Collective with experience of individuality. In Voyager, ex-drones recover their memories very quickly (shown in Survival Instinct) whereas Hugh didn't seem to remember anything. Him being returned was said to have a huge effect on the borg - many destroyed themselves and went astray from the collective, but that was only a temporary effect. Maybe this quick recovery of individuality was one of the long lasting effects.
@@erinocelotl3578 I think Hugh was assimilated as an infant or put in a Borg Maturation Chamber until physically ready to start the assimilation process. Either way, he was supposedly assimilated very young. Too young to have any memories from before.
Yes, TNG made it so a Borg separated from the collective can regain individuality. Not sure why it's considered bad just because Voyager continued that idea
When the Borg where introduced in STNG they had little character development, but that was actually a good thing because it played right in to what the Borg are. But the costumes werent well developed yet. Later the character of the Borg have been developed, but that detracts from the effect because now they have a 'warmer' more comfortable feel to them. However their costumes have been better developed.
I think shes much more ruthless and dominating than the other actress, while Krieg is more nuanced and insidious. I feel like Susanna just psychologically brutalizes people into submission while Krieg is like part ruthless queen, part seductress, part femme fatalle, and just something generally mysterious like a cosmic evil angel.
This felt like those half-assed continuity episodes of TNG where an episode had an impact, but the impact had no relevance with the day-to-day life of the characters until a season or so later a new story built upon it in an equally meaningless way. Examples: Data's backstory, Worf's Klingon life drama, the TNG Borg stories. It's just weak continuity. That's exactly what this story line was like. It was this massive story that came out of nowhere, had a major impact but virtually no impact on the normal cast, and was entirely forgotten by the writers. Had Voyager continued we'd have probably seen another entry in the continuity next season in an equally sudden with no meaningful impact story the following season. TNG's storywith the liberated Borg was a great example because they forgot to follow up on the story but since it had no meaningful impact on the actual cast no one cared that the story was forforgotforgotforgotten.
This was at the height of the de-borgification of the Borg. Is this the episode where borg were using viewscreens on a borg ship? I get that what the Borg really are (technically "is") would make for dull viewing but the producers should have kept the Borg as Borg as possible.
@@LordTalax Locutus wasn't fully integrated yet like a drone. They wanted him to remain as he was to be a bridge to try and convince humanity to stand down.
1. why is it so dark? tng was pretty well lit 2. used "I" in first statement 3. doors? why? 4. hive mind? the collective is not a hive mind. 5. the "queen" can hear his thoughts anyways so she knows what his thoughts are.... so can any other borg.... 6. escorts???
The borg grow dependant on the link to the hive mind, Seven of nine, struggled like hell when she was unplugged from the hive mind. Unimatrix zero I think was the spirt of the person, a piece of the what remains of the person which, the borg cannot ever destroy.
It's the cosign attempting to fix the cause and effect logorythmic error resulting from 1 • 1 - 0.2 =/ 1 When 1 = 1 And once the error happens there is going to be an empty "space" within the flow of time itself resulting in an implosion in the FLOW of time...!
I know how much she hated all that make-up, the rubber suit, and especially the metal contact lenses, but she really did make a better Borg Queen than Alice Kriege.
+equenoxe86 She had the chance to see what Alice did & was able to build upon it, and she took that & ran with it. She deepened the Queen's character. She wasn't just a heartless, horny seductress; She was a manipulative, conniving, angry, vengeful bitch! :D And she just looked better in her make-up than Alice did. I think Alice's version was rather stony, perhaps even reserved, in comparison. Susanna's was dripping with evil, persuasion, contempt, and guile. :D
To me, Sussana's Borg Queen seemed......pissed all the time. Like there's this seething anger that she tries to hold back. Alice's Borg Queen revels in her power. And there's just something so ethereal about the way Alice delivers her lines. Sussana's Queen is threatening, but Alice's Queen is both dangerous and sexy which is why I love it. Never understood why they didn't hire Alice back to reprise her role as the Queen of the Borg. It's not like she was that expensive or had other busy projects.
Woman: I didn't know we 'ad a king! I thought we were autonomous collective. Man: (mad) You're fooling yourself! We're living in a dictatorship! A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes-- Woman: There you go, bringing class into it again...
Watching this with a more adult mind... this is a bit frustrating. The actress for the Queen and the drone actor really do a great job with what they are given in just one scene, but the incessant use of "I" is frustrating. It would make more sense for the Queen to be the embodiment of the Collective itself and rarely if ever refer to herself as "I". And the borg drone. When disconnected, all other drones we've seen still refer to themselves as "We" and think in that regard, having extreme difficulty breaking from being part of the collective. The subtle panic of the single drone is really well done imo. He's existed as part of a whole collective of thoughts and suddenly that collective/the Queen has cut him off and he is alone. Just the actor's facial expression's and subtle movement gets that across well. But it's almost ruined by "I do not know". Why didn't they just substitute "We?" Also, the Queen here feels written like a generic villain. Agh. Voyager. A good show but frustratingly always never reaching its full potential.
Always felt the Borg started as a species that wanted perfection and used implants and such to try to achieve it and then the tech took over and used the bios as tools. The Queen never made sense.
The Borg were great, once ... inhuman and _other_ ... fearsome because of their utter lack of any instinct or empathy, pure mechanistic efficiency and technological power. Tech zombies of the highest caliber. The Borg Queen was just an easy invention from lazy writers. Turn the entire Borg species into minions for a single (and vulnerable/predictable) "human" villain.
The Queen never did make sense, she was just a plot device for the movie, but Alice Kreig made her so good they couldn't resist. There is a non-canon pulp novel explaining the real back story of the Borg, and it does leave a loophole for a Queen. When I first heard of the Queen though I was outraged. Until Data fell for her.
i was always wondering why she speaks to him, while she can just sent thoughts straight to his mind. i know it makes it more entertaining for the viewer, but i'd like it more if she would just comunicate with him telepatically :D that'd be even more scary.
Same. And movies and TV shows voice characters' thoughts all the time. "Voyager" had plenty of instances where we heard telepathic conversations. Why couldn't they do that with the Borg? Would it be corny? Yes. Would it be as corny as the Borg talking aloud to each other? Not by a long shot.
I have no issue with a Borg Queen because it clearly isn't a true a queen, she is a living machine, assembled of flesh and parts wherever needed. The personality comes from the original machine machine they got linked to, is it ideal? No. But it doesn't change anything from the very first episodes we saw that in. Just gives another angle. You are able to dismiss it without issue because no matter how many times she "dies" another is made
I am not a Star Trek fan. I have seen some random episodes and read something on the Internet so this scene is not entirely clear to me; what exactly happens when a drone is disconnected form the hive mind? I mean. do they regain consciousness from their lives before becoming a borg? Or they simply becomes vulnerable to emotions instead of being shielded by the hive mind? Can someone explain this to me?
+David “Gentlebull” Rinaldi Think of it this way - before you were born, you were intimately and deeply connected to another being on a fundamental level. Then there was a bright light, someone hit you, and you cried out in horror because everything was blinding and cold and you were alone. That might be analogous on some level to what that drone went through.
This episode had a great plot but bad execution! Though the captain, B'Elanna & Tuvok had neural blockers or what have you, they shouldn't have been able to act so casual while under Borg control! It seemed like they functioned the same, but wore the Borg uniform like at a job! The queen was ruthless, as far as taking out her own drones! But, she was too soft as far as handling the overall situation! There were good parts, but overall I was disappointed!
Okay, I get the verbal communication with the "faulty" drone, as she disconnected him from the collective. But why did she need to order the other drones to dismantle him? They're a collective, couldn't she just, y'know, think it? I thought verbal communication was inefficient? Not to mention obsolete in a society where everyone's minds are linked.
Unfortunately the viewers don't have cortical implants. They could of used subtitles or just had a voice over without her lips moving. They make these shows so fast...
this is where the ones who are awakened talk to each other(human coralation called dreamstate) the indigo,the starseed the paledians..fight on indigo...
I wonder if all the Drones have bad breath, or actually smell for roses. Maybe all the inside of a Cube smells of freshly baked bread. We just never will no.
so when a drone is disconnected from the hive mind, they begin to experience emotions such as fear? aren't their emotions suppressed? (actually, as drones, aren't their emotions not suppose to exist at all?)
i always hated how voyager overexposed and ruined the borg. they went from a dangerous mysterious almost invincible enemy to a run of the mill bad guy that could be defeated easy. kinda ruined TNG and all the times they sent one cube to earth. voyager showed they coulda sent a couple of dozen cubes......i mean the borg was completly ruined
+capt rodgers How do you explain it? Easily, they didn't see fit to send more than one and frankly given that starfleet got pulverized and it was only through quick thinking and exploiting a weakness the Borg themselves created, I'd say one cube was justified for such a weak people. The Borg's hubris is what will bring their downfall, it's why the Federation still exists and why starfleet can now fight them off.
+capt rodgers At least during First Contact the Borg hat do deal with species 8472 and later on with the "civil war". Before that there was the Lore decent.
for an emotionless hive mind, the borg queen sure acts very "singular" doesnt she? And a name and title sounds a bit egotistical, which again isnt something you'd expect from a being of a hive mind. And the way she moves and talks, her mannerisms are very sexual and human. Hip swaying, subtle longing eye glances, the mmm's she makes in certain scenes, her eye flickering motions. You can argue "its the actress doing it" but then thats you making excuses, the borg arent meant to have emotions of a plan. They were meant to be a cyber threat with the only goal of assimilating everything they see. All other borg get a small alcove but the borg queen gets a entire chamber, with spare body parts and her own automated assembly, but other drones have to be manually put together usually in the hallways of the ships, or in small confined areas. Again thats a little class-ist. Not something you'd expect from a emotionless, class-less, equal robotic race.
@a z Somebody's always in charge? Isn't the whole point that the drones form a collective consciousness? They don't have leaders and followers, they're all of one mind so they don't need to be ordered around.
confusing that why dose she have to speak to tell the dones what to do if they all can hear her thoughts together as a collective? contradicts some times
I haven't watched any voyager for a LOOOONG time, but if I were to say "Unimatrix Zero cannot exist" would this mean anything to anyone... long story short, a friend of mine from my childhood was found dead, was a massive Star trek fan, and found a messege written in code in his flat, and it apprently translates to that... any insight would be a great help. LLAP
+Laura Cowell Perhaps your friend thought of his life as being in Unimatrix Zero, or like the matrix as in not being real like some kind of virtual reality world? By killing himself maybe he thought he was shutting the program down, therefore causing it to cease to exist? That's how I'd interpret it anyway.
+Laura Cowell First of all Wat? secondly, i think we'd all need some small measure of proof of that. Now assuming that what you say is true, and not merely part of many silly things said on the internet, 'Unimatrix Zero cannot exist' is a line from Voyager, unimatrix zero was a dreamlike state the borg could enter, where they remembered their individual identities and could interact with one another as the people they were before assimilation. This was seen as a danger by the Borg Queen, and she sought to find any drone that posessed the ability to connect to unimatrix zero and eliminate them or exploit their connection to it in order to destroy it. Janeway says to her crew 'Unimatrix Zero can no longer exist', because it was also acting as a way for the queen to find these rogue drones, so destroying unimatrix zero allowed them to keep their individuality and start a civil war within the collective.
I'm very sorry then, and you have my sympathy. Even knowing what the message refers to, it doesn't seem to shed any light or provide any insight. I'm inclined to believe it was accidental death, that he was drunk, slipped, and the weights he was carrying prevented him from swimming. Which is the theory put forward by the inquest as well, it would seem. You may never have a definitive answer, and I can only advise that you try not to over think. If he was fond of coded messages, and a trek fan, it's highly possible that he just wrote the message for fun, and that it has no relevance at all to his death.
Paul Schaller actually Janeway killed just part of the collective... maybe only the Borg at the facility near the Transwarp conduit opening...but the Borg actually are more expanded in the quadrant.
She slowed the Borg down, giving a much needed reprieve to the Alpha Quadrant... But by no means did she kill them all. They came back with a vengeance in Star Trek: Online and several books.
a) Alice invented it, so she wins b) Alice had to make all that sexiness ooze out after 7 hour makeup sessions. Alice by a length, Susanna very honourable mention. Krige had more depth.
That's how it used to be. Sometime around the events of TMP (What was supposed to be the Pilot for Phase 2) they turned on V'ger. Of course that whole V'ger theory is as far fetched as the whole theory where the Pokemon world is an alternate universe where the Japanese won the second world war with the help of LT. Surge and his knowledge of Pokemon. Or the theory that Global Warming is a byproduct of cow farts. When I look at the Borg origin I think of Facebook.
I get that it’s not something you’re supposed to over analyze, but I’m still trying to figure out how the Borg Queen is still around after what happened at First Contact. How is this Borg Queen supposed to be different from the other Borg Queen and yet so much the same?
The collective consciousness still exists - it doesn't matter what physical manifestation you give it, it still exists. I think of the Queen as the voices of umpteen billion drones all at the same time, only with one sound. Also, you're thinking in three-dimensional terms...so narrow.
i've always been fascinated by the borg queen .... she's very scary and yet sexy and kinda "i control all!!" she's a perfect Dominatrix LOL but the safe-word is irrelevant :P
The Borg queen is part of the collective and thus can't disconnect Borg from the collective she is a processor of information a CPU if you like thus making this scene a contradiction
+richcampoverde exactly. Best of Both World, stated that a borg drone is part of the group conscious. They can not disconnect someone like we can not disconnect a leg or arm.
so bite confused did projector dr. and 7/9 figure out how put virus in people on way try get back home. when Borg came worlds and Borg them that how virus got in? seems like to dangurs to infect a ship. that make easy for Borg figure out exactly were virus came from.
Can you imagine the smell on a Borg ship?
Sue Jefferson I mean they don’t eat and they don’t use the bathroom, and if their altered biology allows them to feel comfortable in the higher heat without sweating, I’m not really sure what a borg ship would smell like besides metal and gas fumes. Maybe you might get the occasional rotting flesh, but I’m not sure there would be much else.
Smells like a PC. Burned transistor and hotwiring :p
The fictional fact they don't consume food, they never run, always so calm, they don't sweat and their body is most likely infested with nanorobots... The Borg seem odorless. Even though, their skin always look so moist, must be like a sauna there on such borg cubes. But I always imagined the Borg drones walking around with open anusses, as they never consume, there is no need for bathroom breaks, that anus muscle must be on it's most relaxing moment.
For a possible "smell" - I think of dried up poop smell, very moist, damp thickness of the air, but as we know from Star Trek First Contact, they just walked around on the starship hull outside in space, so oxygen is not needed. But yet, when the crew of Voyager beam inside the Borg Cube, they can breathe, unless they use some kind of shielded shell around their bodies. (not everything is logic in Star Trek)
If there was air inside the Borg Cube, it would be moist, dampy thickness to it with the strong scent of dried up poop (from the anal juices leaking out from a fresh batch of newly assimilated drones) but if there was no air, then you smell nothing. Like your question would be: "Does Space have a smell?"
@@shaftoe195 What? No, that indicates light reflecting off a solid surface.
Smell is irrelevant.
Am I the only one who thinks Unimatrix 0 was a good thing? It let Drones retain a sense of Individuality while regenerating, which essentially meant they could keep their own civilization in their own way, which might have made assimilation more palpable to make civilization and would have made the Borg more efficient, as all Borgs wanted to return to the collective to be with their family and friends in Unimatrix 0 during regeneration.
Only a small number of drones carried a mutation that allowed them to jack into the UniMatrix 0. Something like one in a million or so.
It detracted from perfection in some way. In part 2 the Queen talks to a boy there and tells him his parents 'miss' him suggesting when they enter Unimatrix Zero they aren't part of the hive mind.
@@Tounushi Indeed, but if the mutation is isolated it can be perfected and applied to all Borg.
I’ve always wondered why the Queen and/or the Collective care. So the drones are individuals in Unimatrix 0, so what? They lose any memories when they leave, and go back to being drones. What difference does it make?
Your a real borg! Great
a couple of things that have always bugged me about this scene
1) why do you have to escort a drone to the queen instead of just making him?
2) why do you need an access pad to enter the queen's chamber, the drones are all wifi connected or the very least blue-tooth enabled.
3) why does the queen have to verbally communicate, again, blue-tooth.
4) the queen should know that the drone does not know anything, since she can hear his thoughts.
5) I though the borg couldn't voluntarily disconnect a drone from the hive mine, since they are all interconnect. Like removing a arm or a leg.
1. I guess, because she planned to disconnect him and knew they would be needed.
2. Maybe some sort of addtional security.
3. Partly narration purposes for the viewers and partly, because she planned to diconnet him and wanted to be sure to reach him.
4. Since the problem seems to be on an indivual level maybe she thought returning him to it would help him to remember.
5. Maybe they need some preparation for it or it simply does not work like that.
In the end the answers can only be theories.
Because TV show
My guess for the final question: yes, the Borg could not voluntarily disconnect a drone from the hive but... think of the Unimatrix 0 issue as a cancerous growth. What do you do with tumors? You remove them. Essentially, she was removing and conducting a biopsy on a tumor outside the main body.
That's the part that bugs me the most. Unless this dude was assimilated last week, he should have reverted to "we." Everything else about the scene is just for the viewers benefit...
@Jason Briski: I do think the Borg were overused in general. They initially were meant to be a one-time menace, but they were too compelling to leave alone. The Borg (like the Daleks in Doctor Who) have become less and less serious as a foe due to overexposure. The Borg when introduced sent one cube and nearly destroyed the Federation. Voyager encountered the Borg every other week and managed to survive. Yawn. Things I do like Voyager did:
1) Unicomplex
2) Transwarp conduits
3) 29th century Borg drone
Things I hated:
1) The continued use of the idea a Borg drone won't attack until you are perceived as a threat. That's ludicrous. The moment someone wearing a Starfleet uniform materializes on a cube, they should be fried by a dozen phasers.
2) The Borg Queen: she makes NO sense. None at all.
Borg should have expanded Unimatrix Zero for better marketing:
Join the collective and you days will be filled with safe, low stress work, and you nights will be filled with dreamy bliss. They might get more volunteers joining that way.
Like seriously. Drone by day with tech that pretty much surpasses all others. Free time that has endless possibilities. I mean, It would sell me on joining. The Borg just needed better PR and people would have flocked to them. Maybe a better hierarchy that allowed the minds to flourish and actually explore new ideas. Perhaps this is how the Borg was intended to work from the start but the Queen somehow took over and corrupted the collective.
Next thing we know, the Borg Collective reorganizes as a LLC.
I don't like how they did the Borg on Voyager. They humanized them too much.
the borg probably realised this was a downfall and started letting the assimilation have some of their personality to remain somewhat human!
TNG humanized them as well with drones severed from the collective and introduced the Borg Queen as a bit of a horn dog gettin' it on with Data. There was some weird stuff with her and Locutus as well.
I liked Seven of Nine and some of the borg episodes, but some of them didn't portray the borg as threatening as they had been in TNG.
@@troyterry6919 Later TNG episodes/ movies had them as less threatening. Hugh was just a scared Borg child and they merely kidnapped Data and psychologically messed with his head instead of assimilating him to get the information they needed.
That's the problem...the Borg was meant to be a one-time threat, but they kept going back to them. Voyager did the same thing with Species 8472. They were truly intimidating, then they made them silly and laughable with one of the dumbest episodes in all of Voyager canon.
"Wait, before you dismantle him (and before we take over Earth), see if he still has those ringside UFC tickets..."
This shows the level of them not getting the borg.
"I don't know".
WRONG. WE don't know. Remember how long it took Hugh to say I instead of WE?
Hugh was an adolescent Borg who spent most of his early life as a Borg. It is possible this drone was assimilated recently and was able to recall some elements of individuality as Picard did when he returned to the Enterprise after Wolf 359.
Maybe cause she disconnected him
I think you need to rewatch tng, Hugh after he was reassimilated gave geordi a sweet ass romantic look before beaming away.
My guess is that line more shows that he is truly "diseased" by the borgs standards. That he can refer to an "I" at all is proof of that.
"Wait, dismantle him. Bring me his cortical array."
If I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that uttered throughout my life.....
I would have 4 dollars.
Maybe 12...no 13 with my like and comment.
Which isn't a lot, but it's crazy it happened 4 times.
My inner cyberpunk is getting such a woman woody from all this gadgetry. (Borg Queen's spine still freaks me out as much as it did when I was a kid though.)
To be fair, women with a spine freak lots of people out. ;)
Mmmkay
To me, Sussana's Borg Queen seemed......pissed all the time. Like there's this seething anger that she tries to hold back. Alice's Borg Queen revels in her power. And there's just something so ethereal about the way Alice delivers her lines. Sussana's Queen is threatening, but Alice's Queen is both dangerous and sexy. I love it.
Eh, sexy, revelling in power, looking for a consort... They all seem pretty wrong for the Borg to me.
Susannah's Borg Queen seemed more in line with what they're supposed to be; cold, efficient, ruthless and dispassionate in their pursuit of perfection.
Alice's version will always be my absolute favourite. So solicitous, so machiavellian, so damn sexy for a weird slimy thing wearing 4 hours of make-up. Susanna's was good, but Kreig should have won an academy award for hers. Imagine, she got Data to get a woody for .000000000197 nanoseconds. Which will be remembered by us humanoids, for an eternity.
I never got the purpose of the Borg Queen. If the Borg are a collective, why have an individual?
even if thats her purpose it really kills the whole idea of the borg for me. They no longer seem cold and inhuman, but just another alien race with a stupid villain at their head. It doesn't help that the borg queen always acted with such emotion
She is the borg
+TopForkZombi So the Borg are referred to as a "hive" and individual Borg are called "drones", but they shouldn't have a "Queen"?
I find it rather interesting that they still had one important one leading "individual" since she did not serve the purpose of procreating compared to other more hive mind like species.
Although I'd guess that somewhere in a society you need a position that gives purpose that chooses the way.
I guess they thought having an individual which holds the chosen position somebody who is less susceptible for the change brought on the Borg through assimilation would ensure they kept there course.
Why would the borg be emotionless? Nothing in their ethos says they dislike emotions and they're all organic beings so wouldn't emotions be an expected part of the package?
Do you remember TNG's episode hugh? What a great deal it was, that hugh used the designation 'I' insted of 'we'? Now, in voyager, borgs are individuums as it seems
Maybe it's one of the effects of when Hugh was returned to the Collective with experience of individuality. In Voyager, ex-drones recover their memories very quickly (shown in Survival Instinct) whereas Hugh didn't seem to remember anything. Him being returned was said to have a huge effect on the borg - many destroyed themselves and went astray from the collective, but that was only a temporary effect. Maybe this quick recovery of individuality was one of the long lasting effects.
Well he is back! How exciting
@@erinocelotl3578 I think Hugh was assimilated as an infant or put in a Borg Maturation Chamber until physically ready to start the assimilation process. Either way, he was supposedly assimilated very young. Too young to have any memories from before.
@@Torus202 that's also a possibility
Yes, TNG made it so a Borg separated from the collective can regain individuality. Not sure why it's considered bad just because Voyager continued that idea
So cold the way she said it "dismantle him" damn the Borg rock
+aboomination bye troll get a life
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Machines are cold no humanity or heart to control TMI borg suffer from
@@BigAntTVMedia man was ahead of his time (19 dollar fortnite card)
@@firecat2465 bye loser
this really ruins the facelessness of the borg. that simply looked like a boss telling individual employees what to do.
not really... she just evaluate all facts. like a cpu...
@@peaveyst7 were you not watching the same show? she gave orders
@@pepe6666 It was established in First Contact that she represents the collective, a singular manifestation of the collective mind.
@@AdmiralJT yeah so it makes no sense why she would talk. or have a conflict of any kind
She is an expression of the collective. An individual mind would be rooted out.
"Wait, dismantle him, bring me his cortical array." Best quote ever
"...and a few babies...." She's going to have herself some KFC!
Assimilate this! Is better.
I love how the Borg Queen basically lives in a ventilation shaft
She's probably got early James Bond from Dr. No in there to keep her "regenerated".
When the Borg where introduced in STNG they had little character development, but that was actually a good thing because it played right in to what the Borg are.
But the costumes werent well developed yet.
Later the character of the Borg have been developed, but that detracts from the effect because now they have a 'warmer' more comfortable feel to them.
However their costumes have been better developed.
"Character Development" and "Assimilated Drone" don't exactly go together like fire and oxygen, do they?
@@benbarclay5546 I remember when it happened. We barely got out of there in one piece.
"Dismantle him!" That sounds a little unpleasant. Haha!
I'd let her dismantle me...
I don't think he would have said, "I" even while disconnected from the hive mind.
We came here just to verify this response was present. Resistance is Futile.
maybe that was part of the sickness/mutation; the dissolution of self was never complete
The Master from Fallout would have been a more convincing avatar of the Borg Collective.
GOD I LOVE SUSANNA THOMPSON as the Queen! She Exudes so much Dominance just in her beautiful face.
I think shes much more ruthless and dominating than the other actress, while Krieg is more nuanced and insidious. I feel like Susanna just psychologically brutalizes people into submission while Krieg is like part ruthless queen, part seductress, part femme fatalle, and just something generally mysterious like a cosmic evil angel.
I wonder if the Borg Queen ever puts on a fat suit, you know, just to see what it feels like.
I like your style 😎
This felt like those half-assed continuity episodes of TNG where an episode had an impact, but the impact had no relevance with the day-to-day life of the characters until a season or so later a new story built upon it in an equally meaningless way. Examples: Data's backstory, Worf's Klingon life drama, the TNG Borg stories. It's just weak continuity.
That's exactly what this story line was like. It was this massive story that came out of nowhere, had a major impact but virtually no impact on the normal cast, and was entirely forgotten by the writers. Had Voyager continued we'd have probably seen another entry in the continuity next season in an equally sudden with no meaningful impact story the following season.
TNG's storywith the liberated Borg was a great example because they forgot to follow up on the story but since it had no meaningful impact on the actual cast no one cared that the story was forforgotforgotforgotten.
0:53
H.R. Gieger's idea of a perfect woman.
The one guy wakes up and he's all like , " Hey, you guys ! My leg ain't workin' again .Can we get a 'tech' down here ! ? !"
Susanna Thompson was a good choice as a substitute for Alice Kridge as the Borg Queen.
As much as a loved Alice’s role as the Queen, Susanna’s role was absolutely beautiful. She herself is beautiful.
Alice is the Borg Queen. But Susanna did really well with it. Win win for us.
@@benbarclay5546 Alice was great but I liked Susanna more.
2:06 That moment when your wifi gets shut off because you forgot to pay the bill
"Um Queen, about my alcove... I would like to upgrade to suite. Maybe with a kitchenette... do you like pasta? I make rad lasagna.".
This was at the height of the de-borgification of the Borg. Is this the episode where borg were using viewscreens on a borg ship?
I get that what the Borg really are (technically "is") would make for dull viewing but the producers should have kept the Borg as Borg as possible.
Locutus was using a viewscreen watching the enterprise
@@LordTalax Locutus wasn't fully integrated yet like a drone. They wanted him to remain as he was to be a bridge to try and convince humanity to stand down.
Is the Borg Queen hot? Asking for a friend.
Dude, she is missing 90% of her body.
@@digital_gravity maybe he likes girls like that
Oh no not his Cordical array !
it means that even inside hive mind they have privacy and free will... amazing
Shit like this ruins First Contact when you see they got million cubes everywhere like its their only kind of ship.
1. why is it so dark? tng was pretty well lit
2. used "I" in first statement
3. doors? why?
4. hive mind? the collective is not a hive mind.
5. the "queen" can hear his thoughts anyways so she knows what his thoughts are.... so can any other borg....
6. escorts???
Also who did all that cleaning, & dusting.
I've always wondered: How big is the Unicomplex and can it move like the Death Star?
Notice how the Borg world is portrayed as dark & lifeless
When I see an Borg cube it reminds me of Hollywood squares! Nobody wants to end up in the bottom squares. Agree or disagree?
Why did getting disconnected from the network bother him? He seems to love his individuality in Unimatrix Zero.
The borg grow dependant on the link to the hive mind, Seven of nine, struggled like hell when she was unplugged from the hive mind. Unimatrix zero I think was the spirt of the person, a piece of the what remains of the person which, the borg cannot ever destroy.
It's the cosign attempting to fix the cause and effect logorythmic error resulting from
1 • 1 - 0.2 =/ 1
When 1 = 1
And once the error happens there is going to be an empty "space" within the flow of time itself resulting in an implosion in the FLOW of time...!
I know how much she hated all that make-up, the rubber suit, and especially the metal contact lenses, but she really did make a better Borg Queen than Alice Kriege.
+equenoxe86 She had the chance to see what Alice did & was able to build upon it, and she took that & ran with it. She deepened the Queen's character. She wasn't just a heartless, horny seductress; She was a manipulative, conniving, angry, vengeful bitch! :D And she just looked better in her make-up than Alice did. I think Alice's version was rather stony, perhaps even reserved, in comparison. Susanna's was dripping with evil, persuasion, contempt, and guile. :D
I agree. I liked her better too.
Gaeilgeoir krige was better
She was good, but I like how Thompson had less emotions.
any Ice woman can play a queen
To me, Sussana's Borg Queen seemed......pissed all the time. Like there's this seething anger that she tries to hold back. Alice's Borg Queen revels in her power. And there's just something so ethereal about the way Alice delivers her lines. Sussana's Queen is threatening, but Alice's Queen is both dangerous and sexy which is why I love it. Never understood why they didn't hire Alice back to reprise her role as the Queen of the Borg. It's not like she was that expensive or had other busy projects.
Me too. How could you not?
Woman: I didn't know we 'ad a king! I thought we were autonomous collective.
Man: (mad) You're fooling yourself! We're living in a dictatorship! A
self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--
Woman: There you go, bringing class into it again...
Monty Python. Classic!
Watching this with a more adult mind... this is a bit frustrating. The actress for the Queen and the drone actor really do a great job with what they are given in just one scene, but the incessant use of "I" is frustrating. It would make more sense for the Queen to be the embodiment of the Collective itself and rarely if ever refer to herself as "I".
And the borg drone. When disconnected, all other drones we've seen still refer to themselves as "We" and think in that regard, having extreme difficulty breaking from being part of the collective.
The subtle panic of the single drone is really well done imo. He's existed as part of a whole collective of thoughts and suddenly that collective/the Queen has cut him off and he is alone. Just the actor's facial expression's and subtle movement gets that across well. But it's almost ruined by "I do not know". Why didn't they just substitute "We?"
Also, the Queen here feels written like a generic villain.
Agh. Voyager. A good show but frustratingly always never reaching its full potential.
Or use the "royal we". It was bad writing.
Always felt the Borg started as a species that wanted perfection and used implants and such to try to achieve it and then the tech took over and used the bios as tools. The Queen never made sense.
The Borg were great, once ... inhuman and _other_ ... fearsome because of their utter lack of any instinct or empathy, pure mechanistic efficiency and technological power. Tech zombies of the highest caliber. The Borg Queen was just an easy invention from lazy writers. Turn the entire Borg species into minions for a single (and vulnerable/predictable) "human" villain.
The Queen never did make sense, she was just a plot device for the movie, but Alice Kreig made her so good they couldn't resist. There is a non-canon pulp novel explaining the real back story of the Borg, and it does leave a loophole for a Queen. When I first heard of the Queen though I was outraged. Until Data fell for her.
Liked the series. I gather that there might be an up coming Voyager like show?
this is why I like the Star Trek universe because it’s weird and trippy af
for all the cultures claimed to have been assimilated, i don't recall seeing any other than humans.
The ideas for this episode came directly from the movie "The Matrix," with Keanu Reeves, which came out the year before this episode came out.
gail bireline preparing me for my alien encounter
i was always wondering why she speaks to him, while she can just sent thoughts straight to his mind. i know it makes it more entertaining for the viewer, but i'd like it more if she would just comunicate with him telepatically :D that'd be even more scary.
Same. And movies and TV shows voice characters' thoughts all the time. "Voyager" had plenty of instances where we heard telepathic conversations. Why couldn't they do that with the Borg? Would it be corny? Yes. Would it be as corny as the Borg talking aloud to each other? Not by a long shot.
The queens are the Borg's HR department.
I have no issue with a Borg Queen because it clearly isn't a true a queen, she is a living machine, assembled of flesh and parts wherever needed. The personality comes from the original machine machine they got linked to, is it ideal? No. But it doesn't change anything from the very first episodes we saw that in. Just gives another angle. You are able to dismiss it without issue because no matter how many times she "dies" another is made
I am not a Star Trek fan. I have seen some random episodes and read something on the Internet so this scene is not entirely clear to me; what exactly happens when a drone is disconnected form the hive mind? I mean. do they regain consciousness from their lives before becoming a borg? Or they simply becomes vulnerable to emotions instead of being shielded by the hive mind? Can someone explain this to me?
+David “Gentlebull” Rinaldi Think of it this way - before you were born, you were intimately and deeply connected to another being on a fundamental level. Then there was a bright light, someone hit you, and you cried out in horror because everything was blinding and cold and you were alone. That might be analogous on some level to what that drone went through.
+equenoxe86 Ok, thanks for clarifying that out!
+shophet125 Ok, thanks
Another great Borg episode!
01:42 - taking a deep breath with no lungs??
Shouldn’t she already know what’s wrong with him if all Borg share the same mind?
The Borg in the Unimatrix cooked up some nano-plot-device thingie so she wouldn't.
Why do the Borg need to push a button on their own ship to open their own doors....?
They mostly don't have doors. But that door... a handy little security device to protect the Queen.
ボーグクイーンは宇宙で一番美しい！！
God I hate what Voyager did to the borg
Voyager make Borg great. Borg was boring in TNG.
This episode had a great plot but bad execution! Though the captain, B'Elanna & Tuvok had neural blockers or what have you, they shouldn't have been able to act so casual while under Borg control! It seemed like they functioned the same, but wore the Borg uniform like at a job! The queen was ruthless, as far as taking out her own drones! But, she was too soft as far as handling the overall situation! There were good parts, but overall I was disappointed!
Okay, I get the verbal communication with the "faulty" drone, as she disconnected him from the collective. But why did she need to order the other drones to dismantle him? They're a collective, couldn't she just, y'know, think it? I thought verbal communication was inefficient? Not to mention obsolete in a society where everyone's minds are linked.
Unfortunately the viewers don't have cortical implants. They could of used subtitles or just had a voice over without her lips moving. They make these shows so fast...
this is where the ones who are awakened talk to each other(human coralation called dreamstate) the indigo,the starseed the paledians..fight on indigo...
Amazing CGI.
The only reason I am going back to the app
I know I would be having breathing problems if I was like him and my friends stopped telling me to breath.
I wonder if all the Drones have bad breath, or actually smell for roses. Maybe all the inside of a Cube smells of freshly baked bread. We just never will no.
Burnt electrical aroma. Coming to a Walmart near you.
so when a drone is disconnected from the hive mind, they begin to experience emotions such as fear? aren't their emotions suppressed? (actually, as drones, aren't their emotions not suppose to exist at all?)
You'd think you'd be able to take out the borg with an EMP.
They will adapt.
1:05 Why would a Borg ship have code locks, or any buttons at all? Why does the queen talk and play dress-up?
i always hated how voyager overexposed and ruined the borg. they went from a dangerous mysterious almost invincible enemy to a run of the mill bad guy that could be defeated easy. kinda ruined TNG and all the times they sent one cube to earth. voyager showed they coulda sent a couple of dozen cubes......i mean the borg was completly ruined
+Avoozl- how do u explain. why the borg always only sent one cube to earth when voyager reveled that they could send multiple cubes ?
+capt rodgers I agree.
Voyager was awful.
+capt rodgers How do you explain it? Easily, they didn't see fit to send more than one and frankly given that starfleet got pulverized and it was only through quick thinking and exploiting a weakness the Borg themselves created, I'd say one cube was justified for such a weak people.
The Borg's hubris is what will bring their downfall, it's why the Federation still exists and why starfleet can now fight them off.
+capt rodgers Here here... each new appearance of the Borg got worse and worse
+capt rodgers At least during First Contact the Borg hat do deal with species 8472 and later on with the "civil war".
Before that there was the Lore decent.
Whats the frequency....4 of 12 subjunction of unimatrix 525
AKA Kenneth
"tell ME what I want to know" - um your not a individual, your a collective. Other drones have been killed just for saying "I"
The DALEKS will destroy the borg
Unfortunately that is what the future will probably be like. Different variations of Artificial Intelligence and Cyborgs in eternal warfare.
And Unicron will destroy them all and consume their worlds
Why does the Queen need to vocalise her orders if they are a hive mind?
gails no on 77 will give slavic seem and gail bireline chaos to order
The borg queen has to keep reassembling herself. That’s funny
Another day in the Palace of Westminster.
Great Video, thanx!!
for an emotionless hive mind, the borg queen sure acts very "singular" doesnt she? And a name and title sounds a bit egotistical, which again isnt something you'd expect from a being of a hive mind. And the way she moves and talks, her mannerisms are very sexual and human. Hip swaying, subtle longing eye glances, the mmm's she makes in certain scenes, her eye flickering motions. You can argue "its the actress doing it" but then thats you making excuses, the borg arent meant to have emotions of a plan. They were meant to be a cyber threat with the only goal of assimilating everything they see. All other borg get a small alcove but the borg queen gets a entire chamber, with spare body parts and her own automated assembly, but other drones have to be manually put together usually in the hallways of the ships, or in small confined areas. Again thats a little class-ist. Not something you'd expect from a emotionless, class-less, equal robotic race.
@a z Somebody's always in charge? Isn't the whole point that the drones form a collective consciousness? They don't have leaders and followers, they're all of one mind so they don't need to be ordered around.
They kinda ruined the original Borg feeling by making them too human. Seems too much like other regular villains.
My favourite Color darkgreen.
The Borg still retain some of their biological parts
I rather be independent and free than be part of the Borg collective and be like everyone else.
confusing that why dose she have to speak to tell the dones what to do if they all can hear her thoughts together as a collective? contradicts some times
I haven't watched any voyager for a LOOOONG time, but if I were to say "Unimatrix Zero cannot exist" would this mean anything to anyone... long story short, a friend of mine from my childhood was found dead, was a massive Star trek fan, and found a messege written in code in his flat, and it apprently translates to that... any insight would be a great help. LLAP
+Laura Cowell Perhaps your friend thought of his life as being in Unimatrix Zero, or like the matrix as in not being real like some kind of virtual reality world? By killing himself maybe he thought he was shutting the program down, therefore causing it to cease to exist? That's how I'd interpret it anyway.
+Laura Cowell :O what
+Laura Cowell First of all Wat? secondly, i think we'd all need some small measure of proof of that.
Now assuming that what you say is true, and not merely part of many silly things said on the internet, 'Unimatrix Zero cannot exist' is a line from Voyager, unimatrix zero was a dreamlike state the borg could enter, where they remembered their individual identities and could interact with one another as the people they were before assimilation. This was seen as a danger by the Borg Queen, and she sought to find any drone that posessed the ability to connect to unimatrix zero and eliminate them or exploit their connection to it in order to destroy it.
Janeway says to her crew 'Unimatrix Zero can no longer exist', because it was also acting as a way for the queen to find these rogue drones, so destroying unimatrix zero allowed them to keep their individuality and start a civil war within the collective.
+Tessa Jalloh here's you're proof www.getreading.co.uk/news/reading-berkshire-news/death-reading-man-pulled-river-10494881
I'm very sorry then, and you have my sympathy.
Even knowing what the message refers to, it doesn't seem to shed any light or provide any insight. I'm inclined to believe it was accidental death, that he was drunk, slipped, and the weights he was carrying prevented him from swimming. Which is the theory put forward by the inquest as well, it would seem.
You may never have a definitive answer, and I can only advise that you try not to over think. If he was fond of coded messages, and a trek fan, it's highly possible that he just wrote the message for fun, and that it has no relevance at all to his death.
Meh, Voyager turned Borgs into intergalactic clowns.
is that "hugh" from TNG?
0:31 I see not all hair is removed during assimilation.
If the Borg Queen doesn´t have lungs... why does she takes a deep breath after being "put together"???
Artificially lungs she's finally attached to again?
the admiral janeway killed the borg permanently
not in the alternate dimension star trek movies
No season 5 they had borg from the 29th century.
Paul Schaller actually Janeway killed just part of the collective... maybe only the Borg at the facility near the Transwarp conduit opening...but the Borg actually are more expanded in the quadrant.
thedevastator1994 i agree
She slowed the Borg down, giving a much needed reprieve to the Alpha Quadrant... But by no means did she kill them all.
They came back with a vengeance in Star Trek: Online and several books.
Susanna Thompson brought an eerie sexiness to the Borg Queen. Alice Krige was a mind-f*ck eerie. I don't know who did it better.
a) Alice invented it, so she wins b) Alice had to make all that sexiness ooze out after 7 hour makeup sessions. Alice by a length, Susanna very honourable mention. Krige had more depth.
That's how it used to be. Sometime around the events of TMP (What was supposed to be the Pilot for Phase 2) they turned on V'ger.
Of course that whole V'ger theory is as far fetched as the whole theory where the Pokemon world is an alternate universe where the Japanese won the second world war with the help of LT. Surge and his knowledge of Pokemon.
Or the theory that Global Warming is a byproduct of cow farts.
When I look at the Borg origin I think of Facebook.
I get that it’s not something you’re supposed to over analyze, but I’m still trying to figure out how the Borg Queen is still around after what happened at First Contact. How is this Borg Queen supposed to be different from the other Borg Queen and yet so much the same?
The collective consciousness still exists - it doesn't matter what physical manifestation you give it, it still exists. I think of the Queen as the voices of umpteen billion drones all at the same time, only with one sound. Also, you're thinking in three-dimensional terms...so narrow.
WavemasterAshi
You’re right. I was thinking in three-dimensional terms. How small I’ve become.
Ummm buena la serie aunque si alguien pudiera subir todo el capitulo de UNUMATRIX ZWRO gracias
I mean they say they are all about perfection...but they really need to change a few light bulbs ffs...especially before banging on about that shit.
2:20 COOOOOMING
So basically, a union?
i've always been fascinated by the borg queen .... she's very scary and yet sexy and kinda "i control all!!" she's a perfect Dominatrix LOL but the safe-word is irrelevant :P
The Borg queen is part of the collective and thus can't disconnect Borg from the collective she is a processor of information a CPU if you like thus making this scene a contradiction
+richcampoverde exactly. Best of Both World, stated that a borg drone is part of the group conscious. They can not disconnect someone like we can not disconnect a leg or arm.
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bellissima la regina dei Borg!!
so bite confused did projector dr. and 7/9 figure out how put virus in people on way try get back home. when Borg came worlds and Borg them that how virus got in? seems like to dangurs to infect a ship. that make easy for Borg figure out exactly were virus came from.