I feel like one chameleon met another chameleon and they keep reflecting off of one another to the point where they’re becoming an amalgamation called Glynthiana
No. Chameleon like going through life over compensating for your insecurities by being what you think people around you need. Kind of 1 part placating, 1 part silencing your authentic self and sacrificing that for power. The victim mentality definitely fits in there @xxxxOS
They were abused. Their whole career is abuse. Stardom is unnatural, using witchcraft is unnatural, glorifying yourself and searching for heroism simultaneously with victimhood will make you not only double minded but broken minded. Everything the industry is putting them though, even though they willingly partake and accept is abusive and unnatural and traumatizing. But...money, fame, worship...it's all worth it apparently.
They were a bus3d. Stardom is unnatural, w1tchcr4ft is unnatural, searching for heroism and victimhood simultaneously will make one double minded, but also broken minded. Everything the industry put them through, although they willingly partook and engaged in, was ab us3. But...fame, money, worship...it's apparently worth it.
They were a b u s 3 d. Stardom is unnatural, w1tch-cr4ft is unnatural, searching for heroism and victimhood simultaneously will make one double minded, but also br 0ken minded. Everything the industry put them through, although they willingly partook and engaged in was a b us 3. But...fame, money, worship...it's apparently worth it.
They were ab---d. Stardom is unnatural, w1t--cr-ft (🧙♀️) is unnatural, searching for heroism and victimhood simultaneously will make a double mind, but also br 0ken mind. Everything the industry put them through, although they willingly partook and engaged in was ab--e. But...fame, money, worship...it's apparently worth it.
@HelloRandoit’s so weird how theatre culture is so much friendlier and kinder and accepting than on screen film? obviously there’s fake, annoying people in theatre, a lot of them, but the people around them recognize their toxicity and isolate them a bit, at least to my experience. whereas film, the most insufferable people get the best roles?? maybe that’s just because theatre is much less accessible for people to attend, so there’s not a whole lot of fame in it, and the fame is what those people love?? i don’t know. it’s just weird to see how strikingly different they are.
People always smelled the bullshit. It's just that celebrities now demand opportunities to shovel the shit onto our screens at a rapid pace. Its on them
I used to feel bad when I learned that acting was historically a "dirty" profession and that an actors' opinions would be the last thing anyone would give a damn about. Now, I hope that attitude becomes the norm again.
I have a theory that the producers instructed them to be fake, cringy, and over-emotional in interviews so that clips of it would errupt all over social media and become memes to boost the film... If that's the case, genius advertising.
I don’t think so. I don’t think you can just pretend. I think they’re both like that especially Cynthia and so they probably leaned into it or encouraged it but not just perscribed it from scratch
I just had to laugh when Cynthia said she was communicating emotion with her eyes on the poster. Not that we don’t communicate emotion with our eyes but just because I got absolutely nothing from that poster.
Right? In every clip of the film, they look dead-eyed and bored. Remember, these are roles originated by Idina Menzel and Kristin Chenowith. They’re supposed to radiate personality!
There has to be some drama going on for sure. It feels like they're trying too hard not to be too "Blake Lively" on this bc there was so much drama around her interviews with and now they are trying to hard to be emotional and caring😅
Well, there's two possibilities: 1. There's something wrong with these people. 2. They are just doing an act: every question they don't have a simple answer to, which honestly is almost every question, one of them starts crying to distract from the fact that they don't have an answer. Mind you: the two possibilities are not mutually exclusive, so it could be both.
I heard rumours that both of them were put on diets to make them look thinner for Hollywood. I hope it's not the case, cause that's really fucked up. 😨But it would help to explain a few things.
Same. It's really off-putting.. I choose films based on whether I like the cast 😅 which is not very often lol but I can't help finding Ariana annoying and I don't think she means to but she comes across as fake, I believe she might have some kind of personality disorder as she's always changing her personality, even her voice and as an autistic person myself, I always find it hard when people don't seem genuine. Which I see in a lot of the famous people tbh.
I get that they are trying not to ruin their makeup but their eyes are not even watery. Maybe thats how rich people cry they just act innocent and victim and until someone comforts them
The fact that the film started off with the controversy of ariana being a homewrecker to family with a new born baby and then her writing a song basically saying yeah i did that and what? And for her and cynthia go on about kindness just infuriates me istg
yeah this is it for me too. Especially Ariana has proven to be driven by getting whatever she wants. Not only men but everything in her life. So many other celebrities have said so about her. Call me crazy, but she is just. not. kind.
@jennynash298 I'm not an Ariana Grande fan because she used to have a very different personality to what she has now. Now, she speaks like a Disney princess despite presumably being 31. It's just creepy to me how she tailors her personality, body and speech, even the tone of her voice, but I don't understand for what reasons.
And now she’s trying to gaslight gatekeep girlboss the narrative, spinning it so she comes out on top as a woman who’s had to endure so much hate for the simple mistake of falling in love. Also I will never forgive Cynthia for what she did to The Great Comet musical; WE COULD’VE HAD MANDY PATINKIN BACK ON STAGE 😭 The film will definitely do great and they probably really did a really good job, good for them! But they’ve never been authentic for a second, which is becoming very obvious on this press tour.
Who cares it already happened, people end up in those situations all the time in life. You only care because it’s Ariana grande. FYI it’s the responsibility of the person in the relationship to not cheat. I never got the homewrecker trope when the person who is actually IN the relationship is the only responsible for being loyal to their partner/family.
IMO, I just think it’s post performance blues. It’s a real feeling and many actors get emotionally drained when a fictional identity is ripped from them. Imagine taking on this childhood role, and long hours of bonding w their members.
This why I love Dick Van Dyke and other classic actors. Every time someone complimented him in an interview, he'd be very gracious and thankful, and then immediately talk about how important someone else was to the production, and did it so easily.
Yes but her adding feminism out of nowhere is weird this ain't a feminism problem at all, for every movement people call the extremists what they are but when it's women it's suddenly feminism? Yeah no
@@BB25_25Dude how has the delusion on UA-cam gotten this bad? no, we do not live in a Matriarchal society regardless if you think its dystopian or not. You sound like a massive pick me and a hindrance to all women. Talk about first world problems.
The fact that Ariana went behind the back of a vulnerable wife with a new baby, to have an affair with her husband, and now sit there with her baby-voice and pretend to be so innocent and crying from emotion... did you think about that lady's emotions? No? Then why do you think we care about yours?
I'm so glad you made a video and we can talk about this. The crying, the touching, the multiple matching tattoos, the compliments and praises, the voices they use. I understand "women supporting women" and "friendship". I get it. But it's a bit much! It doesn't look healthy. Are they doing it for the movie??
It's all nauseating. Why should I support someone just because we share the same equipment? I guess when I become a Westerner, I'll be able to understand such a stupid mentality.
I don't know anything about either of these broads, but I do remember seeing an interview clip of Arianna Grande. The reason I remember it is because I was surprised how deep and gravely her voice was for such a pint-sized human. It's weird hearing her try to speak in a seductive whisper now...
This type of behavior reminds me of couples who overdo the PDA to show how “in love” they are when it in fact looks showy and unnatural. Unusually it’s not a healthy relationship.
I have a feeling the way they dress in those movies is based on actors... That, or the actors saw the movie and didn't realize the capital were the bad guys. Kind of a chicken and egg situation.
Both women look incredibly sick. Obviously something is happening that’s deeper than these actors role in the camp musical Wicked. Press junket interviews are typically just that - not narcissistic indulged support groups about two handholding actors diverting attention from the character they’re playing in the movie they’re promoting - to themselves as individuals
They're *female* professional narcissists "sharing" a spotlight. Of *course* they're constantly trying to one up each other on the sly. (Which, ironically? Makes the behind the scenes stuff a far more honest depiction of female friendships than the movie itself.)
When you’re emotionally damaged and then lose touch with real life, real people and reality, you don’t know how you’re supposed to act in any given situation.
Ever since she's took that man away from his family, she's been talking like a whimsical fairy princess like her character...I think it's almost to make her seem less like a villain
Ariana Grande has always been fake. I understand people change, but she is constantly changing her persona. She goes from Lolita sex kitten to this lucent fairy princess act. In reality, she has quite a large roster of being the other woman or cheating on her own partners
@@flyleelee5351 I agree to you point but I want to address one point , the husband chose to leave the family and be with ariana . He is main reason the family broke , she IS still a part of the problem but not at all completely. He could have ignored ariana but he chose to cheat on his wife and the mother of his child with ariana. Again I agree with your point but adding a small info to your point . (Apologies for my English, it is not my first language). No hate . Peace🙏
@@heysunshine_058thank you this is exactly what I said. People only care because it’s Ariana grande. Because why is she getting a majority of the blame when the husband is the one who betrayed his family? She probably didn’t even know at the beginning.
@Alecexo People are mad because she's stolen tons of men already and it's poor character to do that & normalise it in society. Yeah the husband is most to blame but Ariana knew fine well he was married with a literal new born and slept with him and that is unbelievably gross and cruel. She's not a nice person. No one who sleeps with married men is a nice person. Cheating is wrong but being the woman who enables the cheating is just as wrong too. Both Ethan and Ariana are terrible people, as well as fake. Don't be brainwashed that these are good people Ariana is a horrible corrupt person and it doesn't matter if it's ariana or not people like me will always condemn cheating & cheating enabling & just poor character over all in anyone in the public eye. Her behavioural shouldn't be accepted. Were all sick of nasty people being treated like good people because they 'sound' sweet. Ariana isn't fooling anyone but children that she's a good person in anyway. Shame on her and all women who enable cheating lousy men to get sex. Cheaters and bad women deserve each other tbh. But we all know she will leave this guy as soon as her next project comes along. She only dates her costars because she thinks she's some kind of God who needs to pass on some kind of sexual energy to her projects. She's a self important fool. Caught up in an evil industry.
@@Winterheart87 ALL of Hollywood? You sound like a child. Come on. Every single actor, writer, producer, crew member? What about New York, Chicago, Atlanta? Please. Go cancel all your streamer subscriptions. I love all these folks bashing the industry and then they go watch an episode of their favorite show, or watch a movie or go see any form of art or entertainment. Hypocrites everywhere.
It's pretty normal tbh it happens to good friends ALOT. Ari also mimicked victoria monet alot even started to sound like her. Even the whole "YUH" thing is Victoria's 😂 I'm sure they rub off on each other
I think people are forgetting that they're actors, so even though it might seem genuine (it doesn't) it probably isn't. The giveaway for me is that when they have these emotional episodes, you can see their brains going a hundred miles a minute carefully thinking about what to say next. It's not genuine at all.
"you have to be kind and good to everybody" Ariana: *mindblown* WHOAA😱😱 why are they acting so touched about the most basic statements 😭their overly serious tones and faces are unreal
@@zztopz7090 Me too. Hearing kids respond to one's art can be emotional. All of this kind of success on a project can be truly inspiring. I don't see the harm in letting them feel this overwhelming sense of pride in their work. It takes a long time and a lot of planning and hard work to produce a film like this. I just saw it over the weekend, and it's clearly made with everyone's utmost efforts. It might be emotional then for any of us to start hearing such feedback from one's core audience.
It's called botox, my guy. Gen Z and Millenial women haven't had real cheek bones for like 10+ years. (Look at them from any angle other than straight ahead and tell me how much those "cheekbones" fit with the rest of their cranium. If they were *actually* solid structures? Then their skulls would have to have tusks.)
@ephraimwinslow botox doesn't give you cheekbones it freezes your face. Filler can be used as can implants for the cheeks . The other thing they're doing is removing buccal fat pads in the face to make the cheekbones stand out more . The fat pads cannot be replaced with filler , and this is a trend many surgeons warn against and refuse to do. When you age and become hollow this will not look good
@@journeytoform It's wonderful that you can admit that publicly. (My point was: the "cheekbones" in question are obviously the result of cosmetic surgeries -- such that you can tell at a glance. Which makes quibbling over the specifics of *which* cosmetic surgery it is... pedantry! This concludes your remedial English lesson for the day.)
THIS. I still can’t get over how Cate Blanchett called herself middle class. Like HUH!!!! I’m a fat food worker if she’s middle class then what the hell am I.
I fundamentally hate how the most useless jobs pay by far the most in today's society. Shelf stackers are far more essential today than anything any celebrity does and the celebs will easily make 1000x times more a year and claim they're oppressed
This is a very weak comment. Diana Ross and many blk singers and actors used to be barred from going to certain places because they were blk. You can have all the money in the world, but in a ra-cist society many opportunities can be barred and taken rather quickly. It's not that simple.
@@GBop89I don’t mean to sound harsh or anything but the actor of elphaba literally had a whole crash out over people photoshopping the movie poster to look like the Musical one I wouldn’t say she’s narcissistic or anything but I do find it very funny she said “by editing it you are erasing me, I showed so much emotion staring down the BARREL of the camera” She just makes it sound like she was at war taking that photo or the jokes the musical fandom made about the poster But to sum up incase you don’t wanna read, TLDR; The green witches actor literally wigged out over an edit of the poster cause it covered her face and made her lipstick red
@ I mean even Cynthia said she should have it between her friends and I think she has I right to feel how she feels, but it's okay, you Don't have to agree with her
Jensen Ackles said best : "We are not curing cancer we're making a tv show. But if someone is lying in a hospital bed watching a show that makes them laugh, they find some inspiration or it helps them to fight a little bit more and that's the kind of stuf that that gets me emotional."
You can tell some of these actors and actresses haven't done a hard day's work in their lives. As for the rest of us, as long as you keep your yard decently clean, we're good.
Thank you for adding this perspective. I hate it when the criticism swings too far the other way, claiming movie makers have forgotten their place: they are just for entertainment. Films perform an essential function: to entertain, yes, but also to inspire and ennoble the human spirit.
I don't mind people crying out of true appreciation for their co-workers and their hard job and for knowing what got them to the top. But crying every three seconds just kinds shouts "I'm emotionally blackmailing you so you don't talk bad about me"
If it was a series taken from the book many this would be distrubing the traveling circus animal/sexual acts , elpies family background, the scarecrow government then getting torn apart , the animal human magic rights and jail. The jewels the slipoers were made from and the wars. The musical is watered down
Calling them narcissists is insane. Narcs literally lack empathy and go out of their way to HARM others ☠️ Ariana isn't even close to a narc she used to be the hugest people pleaser
Those emotions are fake, meaning they aren't even good actors. Fake emotions, fake, overpaid people. Wouldn't even watch their film for free, thank you.
Plus: As someone who genuinely loves movies: I am also tired of all-encompassing fake CGI sets, really filmed in green rooms and of fake AI filters and generators to make people look younger. SO BORING!!!!
I disagree. I just watched that movie five minutes ago one of the best movies I’ve ever seen and I was crying and so was half the audience. It’s not just about friendship. It’s living with an evil world of hatred. They call good evil and evil good The evil witch was not evil. She ended up being good who fought against injustice. The wizard was evil oppress people and he offered the witch come sit here. I’ll make you queen you’ll be rich. Let’s rule over it in injustice. She had a whole empire attacker because she alone stood against tyranny, and she was rejected all her life because she was different one of the best movies I’ve ever seen if not the best.
@@Tolovo they edited it to make it reflect the standard art which doesn't show her face and she took it personally. Look up the wicked playbill and you'll understand.
It’s so funny that this chick was named “icon of the year” by all of these magazines that nobody reads anymore and I’ve never even heard of her up until he had her narcissistic tempter tantrum. And even then, I have a hard time remembering her name.
I’m watching this video, where BC has said her name like three or four times, and my brain is like “she’s not important, I’m not logging that in. I’m keeping something more important, like how to make waffles”
You’re probably not a movie watcher then because she’s had some pretty good roles. That’s okay. But to diminish her talents just because you haven’t heard of her isn’t okay.
I actually knew who she was before she was casted for wicked, she was casted in a movie Harriet and performed at the Oscars. Not everybody needed to know her before she was casted for wicked
@@marionhtjtluit’s not even a joke. Many people have testified that once they became close with many actors and people in the limelight those people revealed to them HOW TRAUMATIZED AND UNHEALED they are. Like…we need to protest consuming anything with them in it. Not as a hate campaign but as a way of FORCING THEM TO HAVE A SEAT AND GO HEAL! All they are doing is spreading all of that hurt and pain into everyone who watches their stuff. Please, but them out of business for their own sakes. I declare and decree that every unhealed actor, musician, tv host, and other form of entertainer has been PUT OUT OF WORK due to audiences rejection everything that they are in. I declare and decree that they have taken that down time to HEAL THEIR INNER CHILDREN AND HAVE FOUND AND DEVELOPED A RELATIONSHIP WITH HE WHO IS HOLY, HE WHO IS LOVE, and they GO ON TO LIVE THEIR BEST LIVES IN CHRIST! Being loved and putting forth love. And while they are away healing, I DECLARE AND DECREE THAT THE NEW GENERATION OF ENTERTAINERS WHO HABE ALREADY COMPLETED THAT PROCESS HAVE ARISE AND HAVE BEEN SET INTO POSITION, AND THE AUDIENCES ADORE THEM! THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE A BREATH OF FRESH LOVING AIR! THE WORK THEY CREATE IS WORK THAT HEALS NATIONS! THEY ARENT THESE PERPETUAL VICTIMS! They teach people how to heal and show the masses the way to THE UNCONQUERABLE LIVING LIGHT OF OURE RIGHTEOUS MERCIFUL LOVE! THEY ARE THE ROLE MODELS THAT THE TRAUMATIZED GENERATIONS THAT PRECEDED US DESPERATELY NEEDED, but didn’t get because the system was too busy promoting vapid narcissistic unhealed greedy people. And it is so. It is done in the earth as it is done in heaven, In Jesus Christ’s name above all name, It is done in every city in every nation in the earth. Amen.
@@seanmartin681the truth is that they hung out w/ each other bcuz they can be as openly camp, weird, dramatic, melodramatic, etc. as they want & still be accepted & supported for who they are. Humans gravitate towards ppl they feel comfortable, accepted, & share similar interests with. Plus, they often feel othered & excluded…sometimes they truly are & sometimes they just exclude themselves.
Im using this as a therapy for “feeling comfortable with being uncomfortable”; I’ve had to stop the video like 3 times now. I haven’t being able to do it to the full video yet. Hyperventilated couple times, almost threw up.
I keep saying this - there's so much untapped talent in the world. I see community theater productions that rival Broadway, independent film, student films, local improv troops etc. If I was a filmmaker, I'd focus on all that fresh undiscovered talent. For one, it keeps the costs of production low, and two - you'd work with truly humble actors thanking their lucky stars that their dreams were coming true. Finally, I remember reading about a director who liked to work with unknowns because he said it felt more real and immersive. When you see a well-known star playing a part sometimes it takes you out of the moment because you know their face and other roles pop into mind.
Completely agree but I bet a large number of those actors do it because they love the craft and not the fame that could ruin their lives and the lives of the people around them
Tell this to entertainment industry executives. When a project is as big as Wicked, it cannot fail. They cannot risk it putting it on hands of unknowns. They cast Cynthia and Ariana, especially Ariana, to conquer a whole market and tap into it to sell tickets, merchandise, etc. If it was about talent only, I think Cynthia has a better case for it than Ariana, but we all know many Brodway actresses could play and sing as much as these two can.
@GBop89 I never said that, I know there's good ones. I'm just saying there's a lot of undiscovered talent, and it would be cool to tap into. It would make a lot of talented unknowms very happy to make their dreams come true. Side note - there's lots of community theater actors that can be divas too, I'm sure. Nobody's perfect. I'm just saying why do we have to see the same faces over and over, especially when there's other talent out there who would really appreciate the opportunity?
I really don't want to judge someone based on what they wear, but... why is it so hard for celebrities to put on something that doesn't look it was taken from clown's wardrobe?
It’s called “fashion”, they’re not at the supermarket or at the DMV, they’re at an interview or red carpet, of course they’re gonna wear an artistic piece of clothing
Because the creators of the movie are literally making them. Do you not know how promo works? Every movie sends the main cast on a press tour to gain attention for the premiere… this isn’t exclusive to these two
@Alecexo when they make it woke, they make it all about themselves. Secondly, they are not that good at promo, seeing as many people are turned off by the movie, you claim that they are sent out to promote.
@@AlecexoI mean, not every movie. More to the point, the writers and directors used to be the ones who got the glory. Thats why so many people remember Tarantino's name. I havent heard the focus on a director in a while
@ they are told what to do and say in these interviews like I said. If you see a press tour for a movie and think their answers aren’t rehearsed, then you need to rethink that.
I was a professional dancer and performer in broadway shows for many years. It was a blessing to get to make a living performing. I never once thought that I was saving lives lol it’s entertainment. Yes it required years of training and hard work. And yes it’s an art. But it’s certainly not saving lives. It’s just entertaining. These people need to get over themselves 🙄🙄🙄 Denzel said it: it’s a LUXURY
It is entertainment, but we should also elevate high art. We need more statues of writers, composers, painters, and people that promote and elevate their nations' culture.
@@caseyhill636 actually art can save lives. Seeing yourself and being understood in art can actually be very helpful when you feel alone in your everyday life
yep exactly. Yet the actual writers don't get to go on press tours and get emotional at the impact *they're* having on people. No, instead they have to strike for better pay, fear for their job security because of ai, and watch as actors take all the credit.
Since the beginning of Hollywood, actors have always been manufactured though, and the studios worked hard to make stars somewhat relatable. For example, when Elizabeth Taylor was a teenager, there were a myriad of articles printed about how she was 'just a regular girl' going to the beach and to football games. Elizabeth herself said later that it was all rubbish. Expecting authenticity from Hollywood is like expecting water in a desert. Hollywood, by its nature is all superficial and contrived.
“Can we bring back adults?” Omg yes! For real!! I think social media has played a huge role in the lack of authenticity and humility. It isolates us from truly being around people and in the real world and that kind of bubble can be isolating and make it hard to connect with others in real life. It also enables people to think a lot more about themselves since they post about their feelings, opinions, etc, and I think that’s why we see so meant people making things about them and being prone to being more emotional, rather than restrained and dignified.
I'd say it's folded in on itself. We already had a long era of people in the media being restrained and dignified. The problem was that this became an extreme in the opposite direction in some instances, where a very emotional situation was treated with roboticism (or if the person was emotional, they were judged for not keeping things professional). UA-cam was a breath of fresh air and took off partly because creators weren't like the stuffy TV media. They were themselves and just filmed in bedrooms or other quirky personal areas. Back then, authenticity was real because it was a side effect, not a goal. But as with most things, once enough people praise something for a certain attribute, that attribute becomes flattened and caricatured. Now, emotion = authenticity to many. The solution isn't to go back to restraint and dignity as a prime target. What we need is a goal that allows both for real emotion and encourages maturity.
I think that the “over-emotional”-ness comes from the incredible amount of work everyone in this film put in. I think because we only get to see the results, we can’t appreciate just how much of themselves they poured into this. You can tell from their performances how much they have worked for this. Living up to such an iconic broadway performance has got to be the most emotionally exhausting and full filling thing an actor can do. For them this is an experience they have probably dreamed of for so long (since it took so long to make). And especially because performing is such an emotive art form, I can totally see how they would be as emotional as they are.
To the commentator. A movie a song or art in general can be both enterteining and medice to the soul. Inspiring, empowering people with great messages.
For me it’s the nose piercing, mostly, but also the claw nails and then the piles of earrings. I just find all those things jarring on anyone. But mostly…I can’t with the septum piercings. I don’t know why anyone would ever get one 😳 I agree she looks amazing as Elphaba
When the results came in and Trump won Ariana Grande posted this, “Holding the hand of every person who is feeling the immeasurable heaviness of this outcome today”. No you are not and physically can’t. What goes through your mind to write stuff like that. Do people take comfort in her imaginary hand holding during any bad news? “World War 3 was just declared. Giving soft head pats to all the young people who will be drafted soon.“
Shes a whole weirdo and 9/10 she probably voted for him behind the scenes and comes to her audience for brownie points and clout z feeding off of their emotions 😭 it's like when the kar-Jenners voted for him and was crying abt his behavior to their audience , all these rich ppl are fake. They know politics are the way to get ppl talking
It’s her inflated sense of self to the point that she thinks by her saying that, it does comfort many and reflects nicely on her. If an average joe said that, they’d look self-absorbed. Problem is the fans eat her shit up.
It's ok. Just let it flop. If there are people, who want to reward this nonsense, let them waste their money. But it won't be a lot of people, Universal will lose money and they won't try this on us again.
your commentary is so real it's refreshing. I go to a Dramatic Arts school for theatre design and we always talk about the role of the actor, and thankfully there's been more of a conversation lately about shifting focus from the actor as the driving force of the play, realizing that everything that's in the stage matters, and how actors need to rely on what's outside of themselves to perform. I also think that they hold so much to the victim mindset because it's all they have to be relatable, and the only way they can justify not being humble, like "I won't stop being this way because after all I've suffered I deserve being treated however I want, or being given whatever I want". I think Western society clings so much to labels, that they've become their personality. You can't just be queer, or just black, or just latin, they seem to be badges of honour for who suffers the most, ergo, deserves the most. I'm not mad about people being proud of where they come from, or who they are, but it does seem phony when your lifestyle and your actions don't align or help the community you are so actively still trying to be a part of, kinda like JLo still trying to cling to the Bronx and being from the block lmao
I love when Cynthia A explainee her insane reaction was,because she was protective of her character when all her complaints were about herself, not the character she's playing, getting "erased." The thing that gets me is that these already privileged people like cosplaying as "Jennys from the block" with rags to riches stories when they were just the rich kids who worked hard to get richer. That's why most are completely insane. They were never normal to begin with.
Worked hard? Come on. They worked mid at best. (Hard work literally scars you. No one who has the time and energy to put out daily tweets and/or reels talking about how fab their day was actually working hard.)
The irony of the defense is that the fan made the poster did it in reference to the art of the character. So there couldn't have been a need for her to 'defend' her character because there was nothing being done that was reducing it. That would be like Keanu Reeves getting mad that someone made the Sonic 3 poster have Shadow in the same pose he was in for SA 2
@@hk1371 K. Now imagine you're a professional narcissist whose primary drive in life is literally (explicitly, by your own admission) BEING SEEN. Now ask: would anything make you angrier than your own face being less visible on a promotional image? Yeah. (You have no idea how trash the people you're speculating about actually are. And it's high time you figured it out.)
@ephraimwinslow oh yeah, I know. Thats why I'm pointing it out. It's because she isn't "defending the character". She's being, as you said, a narcissist.
Okay Becky from San Francisco, just because you have no friends/relationships/connections in real life, doesn't mean nobody else does. Ariana and Cynthia toured together for such a long period when promoting wicked and wicked is a very emotional story, ofc they're gonna be crying and attached to each other. Before judging other people's relationships, worry about yourself
@@sauceboi_relli guess they’re talking about her having an affair with a married man and encouraging him to leave his wife and new born child. That’s the only thing i remember hearing
@@AbigaleKirsten she was also married herself and cheated on her husband. She had posted a picture for their anniversary in like May or something and then was seen with Ethan on her birthday in June and I believe her husband had flown over for her birthday. Ethan's wife Lilly also posted a happy birthday message to him in June so they were still very much together
I remember when watching celebrities was always fun and interesting and entertaining...and now we have Brie Larson, Rachel Zegler, and the cast of Wicked. And the effect is the opposite: I hate these people and I would never want to see them in a movie. How has Hollywood gone so wrong for so long now?
Because Gen Z and younger Millennials, a main sector of their target market, are not all that bright generally speaking and so they don't know what talent is.
Its not about friendship its about not getting along and looking at certain people different because they look different base on skin color, outfit ect.
This gives me hunger game vibes. I grew up a theater kid and ADORED wicked. I’ve read the book before it was a show. I have a “meh” feeling about this movie because it feels so vapid and surface level. The women are very talented singers and actresses so I hope the same intensity and energy brought to the stage is brought to the screen. I don’t think I’ll see it in theaters but maybe I’ll watch it when it comes out on streaming
What the heck are you talking about Wicked is a story told from an entirely different perspective than the Wizard of Oz. the wicked witch isn't entirely evil or good and neither is elphaba
Have you never met a theater kid before?! LOL I did "Into the Woods" my junior year of high school. 30 years later, one of my fellow cast members landed the lead role in the latest Broadway production. (She was Patina Miller's understudy.) On the night that she made her Broadway debut, almost the entire cast of my HS production was there to see it, and we all cried THE ENTIRE TIME! 🤣 IDK Cynthia and Ariana personally, but I figured that they were just acting like normal theater kids. Everything is dramatic and it never goes away. I haven't been on a stage in decades, but I'm still an emotional wreck when it comes to theater.
If you saw those two walking down the pavement towards you, you'd be like "what the hell?"... Ariana is skeletal, and Cynthia's nails... well, I guess she doesn't wipe very thoroughly.
I've spent an embarrassing amount of time thinking about that problem... and my best guess is: They use the heel of their palm. It wouldn't work very well... but it would work well enough to serve as a stopgap measure before taking a shower.
They both remind me of the aristocrat class of previous eras - vapid, vain, self obsessed, flippant. Putting on outrageous outfits just because they can. Dripping in privilege and boredom so they event drama just to have something to do. Their entire appearance is carefully crafted at all times and they are constantly acting out a grandiose persona when on camera. Just screams narcissism. Cynthia’s bizarre appearance says it all. They might as well be aliens to me.
The lack of maturity on display kind of exemplifies how so many current influences try to encourage self-centered/childish behavior, including not being introspective or being critical of yourself or what you're likely being told to believe and accept.
Man, this video is so judgy, non empathetic and superficial. Too bad, seriously. I personally cried a lot during the movie. It may be just a movie for many, but I identified with so much of Elphaba and it took me back to the little me who felt many of those things at a point in my life, doubt, fear, anger, not belonging and on the outside I was “apparently strong”. So no, its not just a movie, there are just people who do not connect that way and are way too superficial to even feel and understand the real message behind this movie. I think both actresses know how much of an impact they are making and will make with these interpretations of their characters and that’s why they are so emotional because they really feel that.
Martha should have snarled "Back off, b*tch! I'm NOT a poodle!" And then I would have gone over to Martha's website and buy some overpriced sheets in approval.
I hate that she always INVADES everyone’s personal bubble! that’s a pet peeve of mine when people I don’t know on a truly personal level stand or sit or talk too close to me, it makes me hyper aware of my own body and theirs.
Eewwwww i can't STAND Drew Barrymoore. Her interviews are so awful and cringe because she makes every one of them about herself... even when the person being interviewed is amazing, she still turns it into her story
This comment section is so sad, apparently it is okay to shame women’s bodies normally and criticize their bonds. Ariana and Cynthia look perfectly healthy for their body proportions, and so what if they are close enough to cry with each other?
Frr 😭 most of these people in the comments have 0 friends or connections irl and were never loved by their parents and therefore, want everyone else to be as miserable as they are. All you can do is pray that maybe one day they'll find someone who loves them
You look like them? Isn't it always a prevalent issue of prolificising Models and Celebrities who are ulta-thin to young impressional girls, let alone in a kids movie. Both of them looks emaciated, you shouldn't be able to see striations in your back muscles without serious and controlled diet & exercise. This is not naturally thin, this is ozempic & living off lettuce thin. They both dramatically became thinner during the movie. Why do the poor/common people get body positivity & told to not comment about weight/image as if it were non-existant, but thee celebs get a pass on blowing thousands of dollars on weight loss medicine just so they can deceive their fans that it's normal/attainable.
What I love is how they act as if the movie they’ve acted in is the first virtuous movie to exist simply because they’re in it and their particular identity is in the starring role. As if movies with morals, friendship, and important messages haven’t been existing in media for decades, regardless of the racial or sexual identity in the starring role.
And as if every library book in the fantasy genre isn't this same cliche story about a 'freak' who a bunch of undeveloped, strawman side characters keep persecuting and bullying with no motivation. I never liked this trope, it's unrelatable and relies on strawmen. Who is supposed to be believable, Glinda? I know it's supposed to be fun to relate to a victim, but this trope is soooo overused and boring at this point. Every library book in the world. Why can't they just write real characters.
It's kind of a strategy. They interviewed for movie promotion which is "mainly" female friendship, they need to be seem real besties alike in the movie. In female friendship, it's hard to admit it but they cry A LOT. When sharing secrets, making apologies after the cold war, whenever. They even cried in interview with Idina and Chenoweth. It was not only me catching Idina feeling awkward being in the middle of that weird situation.
11:49 Tbf, Drew Barrymore had a very intense and rough life growing up that affected her immensely. She had no father around her, Add terrible mother who was okay bringing her daughter to grown up parties. At least the wonderful Keanu Reeves helped her out.
@@twinkletoes6290Agree. The woman has serious mommy issues. She treats all her interviews like therapy, expects all her guests to get emotional and invades their personal space. She's weird and needs therapy.
Drew barrymore is fake af. They always play the "rough" upbringing card. It's utter bs. As someone with a very "rougj" upbringing, I didn't become a fake narcissist.
I saw a recent interview where Ariana said her low-end pop song "Break Free" saved lives. I don't know if she's delusional or her fans need more saving than pop music can offer.
Well I think many people can tell you that art got them through tough times. It’s really not that conceited lol. You just don’ vibe with this art in particular. This is the problem with right-wing talking points: y’all start trying to make “common sense” arguments that immediately fall flat when you talk to real people.
I feel like one chameleon met another chameleon and they keep reflecting off of one another to the point where they’re becoming an amalgamation called Glynthiana
Glynthianaba. The amalgamation of both actors and both roles hahah.
Is chameleon code for narcissist because if so I fully agree 👍
I couldn’t accurately describe their behavior more than you did. This explains it perfectly because they look not human..
No. Chameleon like going through life over compensating for your insecurities by being what you think people around you need. Kind of 1 part placating, 1 part silencing your authentic self and sacrificing that for power. The victim mentality definitely fits in there @xxxxOS
The fact they actually look like each other, one’s just dipped in chocolate- freaks me out
being humble isn't thinking less of yourself...it's thinking of yourself less.
awesome
i LOVE this
THIS
True, and said in pretty much every AA meeting.
SO GOOD
They look like the rich characters from The Hunger Games.
This!
That's what it is.
welcome to the west in 2024 aka Capitol in Panem
And we are the poor sick people that needs saving lol 😂
I have been noticing that the past 5 years especially. Every gala, awards show, red carpet.....it just looks like The Capitol.
I wouldn't be surprised if they secretly can't stand eachother
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I always thought so too
They secretly hooked up 😂
a constant who can cry more competition must be exhausting
Were they abused on set? They're reacting like they experienced war together
YES
They were abused. Their whole career is abuse. Stardom is unnatural, using witchcraft is unnatural, glorifying yourself and searching for heroism simultaneously with victimhood will make you not only double minded but broken minded.
Everything the industry is putting them though, even though they willingly partake and accept is abusive and unnatural and traumatizing.
But...money, fame, worship...it's all worth it apparently.
They were a bus3d. Stardom is unnatural, w1tchcr4ft is unnatural, searching for heroism and victimhood simultaneously will make one double minded, but also broken minded.
Everything the industry put them through, although they willingly partook and engaged in, was ab us3.
But...fame, money, worship...it's apparently worth it.
They were a b u s 3 d. Stardom is unnatural, w1tch-cr4ft is unnatural, searching for heroism and victimhood simultaneously will make one double minded, but also br 0ken minded.
Everything the industry put them through, although they willingly partook and engaged in was a b us 3.
But...fame, money, worship...it's apparently worth it.
They were ab---d. Stardom is unnatural, w1t--cr-ft (🧙♀️) is unnatural, searching for heroism and victimhood simultaneously will make a double mind, but also br 0ken mind.
Everything the industry put them through, although they willingly partook and engaged in was ab--e.
But...fame, money, worship...it's apparently worth it.
"Humility is not thinking less of yourself; it is thinking of yourself less." - C.S. Lewis
Thank you for sharing a C.S. Lewis quote ❤️
@@BaggageClaim C. S. Lewis underrated fr
Yeah love me some quotes from a pdf file
@@EughhBrothereughh It's from the book Mere Christianity. I highly recommend ☺️
*Gasp* Amen 🙏
The downfall of celebritiy culture is beautiful. I'm glad people are waking up and smelling the bullshit
@HelloRandoit’s so weird how theatre culture is so much friendlier and kinder and accepting than on screen film? obviously there’s fake, annoying people in theatre, a lot of them, but the people around them recognize their toxicity and isolate them a bit, at least to my experience. whereas film, the most insufferable people get the best roles?? maybe that’s just because theatre is much less accessible for people to attend, so there’s not a whole lot of fame in it, and the fame is what those people love?? i don’t know. it’s just weird to see how strikingly different they are.
Yes, time's up!
People always smelled the bullshit. It's just that celebrities now demand opportunities to shovel the shit onto our screens at a rapid pace. Its on them
The sooner these fools go out of popularity the better.
I used to feel bad when I learned that acting was historically a "dirty" profession and that an actors' opinions would be the last thing anyone would give a damn about. Now, I hope that attitude becomes the norm again.
I have a theory that the producers instructed them to be fake, cringy, and over-emotional in interviews so that clips of it would errupt all over social media and become memes to boost the film... If that's the case, genius advertising.
I was also wondering if they wanted ABSOLUTELY zero question that they love each other. Media loves to pit female leads against one another
that's the most likely reason lol, they didn't need to because Wicked has a huge loyal fanbase
This.
I don’t think the same thing i think they are genuinely that ridiculous and truly think they are that important
I don’t think so. I don’t think you can just pretend. I think they’re both like that especially Cynthia and so they probably leaned into it or encouraged it but not just perscribed it from scratch
I just had to laugh when Cynthia said she was communicating emotion with her eyes on the poster. Not that we don’t communicate emotion with our eyes but just because I got absolutely nothing from that poster.
I got "ego". And lots of it.
Right? In every clip of the film, they look dead-eyed and bored. Remember, these are roles originated by Idina Menzel and Kristin Chenowith. They’re supposed to radiate personality!
She looks blank with her expression in the post
She looks like she's trying to hold in a fart.
Cunthia looks like Shrek
No, they’re not okay. We all can see and sense it.
There has to be some drama going on for sure.
It feels like they're trying too hard not to be too "Blake Lively" on this bc there was so much drama around her interviews with and now they are trying to hard to be emotional and caring😅
We can see through their mask to the monster underneath
Who cares anyway im not about to worry about filthy rich people
@@mickieg1994 It's just for attention 😂
Well, there's two possibilities:
1. There's something wrong with these people.
2. They are just doing an act: every question they don't have a simple answer to, which honestly is almost every question, one of them starts crying to distract from the fact that they don't have an answer.
Mind you: the two possibilities are not mutually exclusive, so it could be both.
They both look physically unwell. It is unsurprising they are emotionally/spiritually unwell.
Apparently they are both long-time vegans, so...
This! I can't watch the movie without this uncanny feeling. They look so surreal.
I am with you on that one. Ozempic???? It feels like they stepped off an old Star Trek movie set too!
@@americanwoman9880Star Trek the next generation
I heard rumours that both of them were put on diets to make them look thinner for Hollywood. I hope it's not the case, cause that's really fucked up. 😨But it would help to explain a few things.
To quote the late great Rick James:
"Cocaine is a helluva drug."
These actors think so highly of themselves
They are all superfreaks.
It's hard for me to enjoy a film when I find the cast personally unlikeable.
This
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@@roka.ramenn Are you going to cry now? lol
Same. It's really off-putting.. I choose films based on whether I like the cast 😅 which is not very often lol but I can't help finding Ariana annoying and I don't think she means to but she comes across as fake, I believe she might have some kind of personality disorder as she's always changing her personality, even her voice and as an autistic person myself, I always find it hard when people don't seem genuine. Which I see in a lot of the famous people tbh.
Arianna is such a shallow cunt I can’t with her
For all that crying, there's a shocking lack of actual tears...
I'm surprised she hasn't popped an eye with those awful nails.
Haven’t watched the interviews yet
No they're actually crocodile tears
Wow, are you a "Tear watcher" now?
I get that they are trying not to ruin their makeup but their eyes are not even watery. Maybe thats how rich people cry they just act innocent and victim and until someone comforts them
The fact that the film started off with the controversy of ariana being a homewrecker to family with a new born baby and then her writing a song basically saying yeah i did that and what? And for her and cynthia go on about kindness just infuriates me istg
Pretty much.
yeah this is it for me too. Especially Ariana has proven to be driven by getting whatever she wants. Not only men but everything in her life. So many other celebrities have said so about her. Call me crazy, but she is just. not. kind.
@jennynash298 I'm not an Ariana Grande fan because she used to have a very different personality to what she has now.
Now, she speaks like a Disney princess despite presumably being 31.
It's just creepy to me how she tailors her personality, body and speech, even the tone of her voice, but I don't understand for what reasons.
And now she’s trying to gaslight gatekeep girlboss the narrative, spinning it so she comes out on top as a woman who’s had to endure so much hate for the simple mistake of falling in love.
Also I will never forgive Cynthia for what she did to The Great Comet musical; WE COULD’VE HAD MANDY PATINKIN BACK ON STAGE 😭
The film will definitely do great and they probably really did a really good job, good for them! But they’ve never been authentic for a second, which is becoming very obvious on this press tour.
Who cares it already happened, people end up in those situations all the time in life. You only care because it’s Ariana grande.
FYI it’s the responsibility of the person in the relationship to not cheat. I never got the homewrecker trope when the person who is actually IN the relationship is the only responsible for being loyal to their partner/family.
IMO, I just think it’s post performance blues. It’s a real feeling and many actors get emotionally drained when a fictional identity is ripped from them. Imagine taking on this childhood role, and long hours of bonding w their members.
Theatre kid alert
I’m not a theatre kid, I do Folklórico 😭
This why I love Dick Van Dyke and other classic actors. Every time someone complimented him in an interview, he'd be very gracious and thankful, and then immediately talk about how important someone else was to the production, and did it so easily.
Yes but her adding feminism out of nowhere is weird this ain't a feminism problem at all, for every movement people call the extremists what they are but when it's women it's suddenly feminism? Yeah no
Dick Van Dyke was gracious….and funny
The old Hollywood stars are long gone sadly
@@zizojaezekeom3565this is absolutely feminism and we’re living in a matriarchal dystopian society.. and as a women of colour, I hate it.
@@BB25_25Dude how has the delusion on UA-cam gotten this bad? no, we do not live in a Matriarchal society regardless if you think its dystopian or not. You sound like a massive pick me and a hindrance to all women. Talk about first world problems.
The Narcissism is strong with this cast
The fact that Ariana went behind the back of a vulnerable wife with a new baby, to have an affair with her husband, and now sit there with her baby-voice and pretend to be so innocent and crying from emotion... did you think about that lady's emotions? No? Then why do you think we care about yours?
Um you obviously haven't seen the movie yet 😂 ur just a narcissist hater hahaha
It seems to be a prerequisite.
EXCELLENT BAGGAGE CLAIM WORK.
@@unturned6066 She's a fraud with the pretend sweetness. Knowing she'd engage in an affair when it's literally hurting a woman with a newborn.
Is anyone going to point out Ariana Grande's sudden proper schoolgirl accent she's putting on?
Do you really need someone to point it out? It's painfully obvious.
*she is such a tiny smol schoolgirl uwu*
"Mummy...that's not a cookie. It's a Fig Newton" kind of icky vibe.
What happened to her blaccent?
She has never known who she really is
Ariana Grande is so fake. She keeps changing voices constantly.
They look extremely hungry.
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I don't feel sorry for either of them.
They have enough money to afford a decades worth of food, but choose not to eat it in the name of beauty
I'm so glad you made a video and we can talk about this. The crying, the touching, the multiple matching tattoos, the compliments and praises, the voices they use. I understand "women supporting women" and "friendship". I get it. But it's a bit much! It doesn't look healthy. Are they doing it for the movie??
It all is so forced and surface level that it’s cringey.
It's all nauseating. Why should I support someone just because we share the same equipment?
I guess when I become a Westerner, I'll be able to understand such a stupid mentality.
I don't know anything about either of these broads, but I do remember seeing an interview clip of Arianna Grande. The reason I remember it is because I was surprised how deep and gravely her voice was for such a pint-sized human. It's weird hearing her try to speak in a seductive whisper now...
@@AA-ed6ek I’m a Westerner and I don’t understand it.
This type of behavior reminds me of couples who overdo the PDA to show how “in love” they are when it in fact looks showy and unnatural. Unusually it’s not a healthy relationship.
Why does Hollywood dress like the people of the capital in the Hunger Games?
Psst. Cos they are. We’re the poor people they enjoy watching fight for survival, for their enjoyment
Why does your profile picture capture perfectly your comment ?
I have a feeling the way they dress in those movies is based on actors...
That, or the actors saw the movie and didn't realize the capital were the bad guys.
Kind of a chicken and egg situation.
For the same reason
Because those outfits didn’t come out of nowhere.
Ladies, you were in a film. You didn’t survive a war and cure cancer. Pull yourselves together.
😂😂😂😂
youre probably not an honest artist actors and filmmaker’s are completely consumed in their films and characters and story
@@beckywillbeback9630 Well, they finished filming nearly a year ago. You’d think they would’ve gotten over it by now.
@@TomRipley7350kind of a little weird to hyper fixate on actresses getting emotional over a project they worked on.
I think they had to drop a lot of weight even though they were already small.
Both women look incredibly sick. Obviously something is happening that’s deeper than these actors role in the camp musical Wicked. Press junket interviews are typically just that - not narcissistic indulged support groups about two handholding actors diverting attention from the character they’re playing in the movie they’re promoting - to themselves as individuals
“How many lives could this film have saved” I know! Zero, because it’s a movie, not a cure for AIDS, get over yourselves.
And we know the movie hurt at least one fresh baby.❤
@@tahurahossain6012 the movie didnt hurt a baby lol the baby has a father that made choices that would hurt his family
@@selcatron.... Why did you waste brain power to acknowledge this person?
@@blaquepearlzchocolatediamndz77 You're not even a person.
@@blaquepearlzchocolatediamndz77 lol that's a great question- thank you for the perspective 🙏
They should be grateful that Rachel Zegler has taken the spotlight off them for a while.
Or the other way around lol
Wearing
the crown of shame with pride. She 🐀 still don't get it.
but they live for the SPOTLIGHT, right? so it's a downward spiral to make the most egregious comments and stay famous,.
@@Patterner Yes - good point.
Lol you’re right
It’s so incredibly WEIRD. Am I the only one that’s getting competitive vibes from besties Ari & Cynthia???
They're *female* professional narcissists "sharing" a spotlight. Of *course* they're constantly trying to one up each other on the sly.
(Which, ironically? Makes the behind the scenes stuff a far more honest depiction of female friendships than the movie itself.)
Oh my, that's so true
Ariana wanted to be Elphaba. That was her dream role, she said that in interviews.
I don’t know why but Cynthia seems genuine but I just can’t believe Ariana’s affection towards her, maybe because of talking with the fake voice.
@@gracechurch1791 oof. And you know the only reason she didn't get it is she doesn't check enough boxes. What a kick to the lady nads.
When you’re emotionally damaged and then lose touch with real life, real people and reality, you don’t know how you’re supposed to act in any given situation.
Ariana's tone sounds extremely fake. I find their comments towards the interviewers too condescending.
Ever since she's took that man away from his family, she's been talking like a whimsical fairy princess like her character...I think it's almost to make her seem less like a villain
Ariana Grande has always been fake. I understand people change, but she is constantly changing her persona. She goes from Lolita sex kitten to this lucent fairy princess act. In reality, she has quite a large roster of being the other woman or cheating on her own partners
@@flyleelee5351 I agree to you point but I want to address one point , the husband chose to leave the family and be with ariana . He is main reason the family broke , she IS still a part of the problem but not at all completely. He could have ignored ariana but he chose to cheat on his wife and the mother of his child with ariana. Again I agree with your point but adding a small info to your point . (Apologies for my English, it is not my first language). No hate . Peace🙏
@@heysunshine_058thank you this is exactly what I said. People only care because it’s Ariana grande. Because why is she getting a majority of the blame when the husband is the one who betrayed his family? She probably didn’t even know at the beginning.
@Alecexo People are mad because she's stolen tons of men already and it's poor character to do that & normalise it in society. Yeah the husband is most to blame but Ariana knew fine well he was married with a literal new born and slept with him and that is unbelievably gross and cruel. She's not a nice person. No one who sleeps with married men is a nice person. Cheating is wrong but being the woman who enables the cheating is just as wrong too. Both Ethan and Ariana are terrible people, as well as fake. Don't be brainwashed that these are good people Ariana is a horrible corrupt person and it doesn't matter if it's ariana or not people like me will always condemn cheating & cheating enabling & just poor character over all in anyone in the public eye. Her behavioural shouldn't be accepted. Were all sick of nasty people being treated like good people because they 'sound' sweet. Ariana isn't fooling anyone but children that she's a good person in anyway. Shame on her and all women who enable cheating lousy men to get sex. Cheaters and bad women deserve each other tbh. But we all know she will leave this guy as soon as her next project comes along. She only dates her costars because she thinks she's some kind of God who needs to pass on some kind of sexual energy to her projects. She's a self important fool. Caught up in an evil industry.
They both look sick... I don't mean that as an insult. I actually mean it sincerely.
They make me sick.
@Sharon-xn1dm I'm so happy you said that... All of Hollywood makes me sick.
It's called "Anorexia" and it's been a requirement for a lot of actresses for years. Anorexia is considered sexy.
a rumor is that ariana and cynthia made a game to see who could get the skinniest
@@Winterheart87 ALL of Hollywood? You sound like a child. Come on. Every single actor, writer, producer, crew member? What about New York, Chicago, Atlanta? Please. Go cancel all your streamer subscriptions. I love all these folks bashing the industry and then they go watch an episode of their favorite show, or watch a movie or go see any form of art or entertainment. Hypocrites everywhere.
Weird how much Ari mimics Cynthia’s mannerisms. Ari has no genuine personality. The accent, speech cadence, cheek biting, etc
watch her terrible acting in the preview clips... unfortunately it seems like she was trying to mimic Frankie Grande for this role 😬🙄😒
@@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos 😂😂😂😂
oh my gosh yes. i noticed during the movie, the 🫤😗 face that both cynthia and ariana do a lot
It's pretty normal tbh it happens to good friends ALOT. Ari also mimicked victoria monet alot even started to sound like her. Even the whole "YUH" thing is Victoria's 😂 I'm sure they rub off on each other
@@JessAnonymous you sure are all over these comments defending and sweeping! 🙄
I think people are forgetting that they're actors, so even though it might seem genuine (it doesn't) it probably isn't. The giveaway for me is that when they have these emotional episodes, you can see their brains going a hundred miles a minute carefully thinking about what to say next. It's not genuine at all.
Chadwick Boseman was battling through cancer for years, not once did he shed a tear. Worked hard as ever and never asked for pitty whatsoever.
I mean that’s not good either..
@@Lola-ko4is
The point is, he dealt with his struggle with dignity and grace, instead of bawling his eyes out like an over emotional child
Being emotional does not mean you are a child😢 @@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
@@Lola-ko4is Yes it is. Grace, humility, cracking on without complaining are all great qualities. Sorely missing in today’s society.
RIP Mr. Boseman
"you have to be kind and good to everybody"
Ariana: *mindblown* WHOAA😱😱
why are they acting so touched about the most basic statements 😭their overly serious tones and faces are unreal
if they start crying there won't be enough time in the interview to ask questions about the homewrecking 😅🤣
@@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos YESS THIS PART!
They look so spaced/drugged out 😬
Edit: and behave that way lol
I read it as shes impressed that the movie's message reached small children.
@@zztopz7090 Me too. Hearing kids respond to one's art can be emotional. All of this kind of success on a project can be truly inspiring. I don't see the harm in letting them feel this overwhelming sense of pride in their work. It takes a long time and a lot of planning and hard work to produce a film like this. I just saw it over the weekend, and it's clearly made with everyone's utmost efforts. It might be emotional then for any of us to start hearing such feedback from one's core audience.
Also the cheekbones on both of them are insane! It's like watching some type of dolls. They're not just behaving fake and unreal. They are.
It's called botox, my guy. Gen Z and Millenial women haven't had real cheek bones for like 10+ years.
(Look at them from any angle other than straight ahead and tell me how much those "cheekbones" fit with the rest of their cranium. If they were *actually* solid structures? Then their skulls would have to have tusks.)
@ephraimwinslow botox doesn't give you cheekbones it freezes your face. Filler can be used as can implants for the cheeks . The other thing they're doing is removing buccal fat pads in the face to make the cheekbones stand out more . The fat pads cannot be replaced with filler , and this is a trend many surgeons warn against and refuse to do. When you age and become hollow this will not look good
@@littlemy1773
10/10 pedantry.
@@ephraimwinslow 10/10 doesn't know what pedantry means
@@journeytoform
It's wonderful that you can admit that publicly.
(My point was: the "cheekbones" in question are obviously the result of cosmetic surgeries -- such that you can tell at a glance. Which makes quibbling over the specifics of *which* cosmetic surgery it is... pedantry! This concludes your remedial English lesson for the day.)
they're theater kids, theater kids are super emotional lol
Every time a celebrity starts squeaking about oppression, or how disadvantaged they are, I just think about how big their bank account is?
THIS. I still can’t get over how Cate Blanchett called herself middle class. Like HUH!!!! I’m a fat food worker if she’s middle class then what the hell am I.
I fundamentally hate how the most useless jobs pay by far the most in today's society. Shelf stackers are far more essential today than anything any celebrity does and the celebs will easily make 1000x times more a year and claim they're oppressed
This is a very weak comment. Diana Ross and many blk singers and actors used to be barred from going to certain places because they were blk. You can have all the money in the world, but in a ra-cist society many opportunities can be barred and taken rather quickly. It's not that simple.
Oppression doesn't = Money. Oppression is usually a psychological phenomenon and a systemic issue
@@venusluv-i1veven Michael Jackson experienced hella racism when he first started out. These people don't live in reality fr
I hate this weird perversion of “corporate emotion” you see now in a lot of promotional tours.
@@winnievineyard It smells like a cheap, strong chemical deodorant.
It’s so hard to watch these interviews. Even just clips of them. The fakeness and narcissism is unpleasant.
@@doormatt72 oh please you guys call any person you don't like a narcissist
@@GBop89I don’t mean to sound harsh or anything but the actor of elphaba literally had a whole crash out over people photoshopping the movie poster to look like the Musical one
I wouldn’t say she’s narcissistic or anything but I do find it very funny she said “by editing it you are erasing me, I showed so much emotion staring down the BARREL of the camera”
She just makes it sound like she was at war taking that photo or the jokes the musical fandom made about the poster
But to sum up incase you don’t wanna read, TLDR; The green witches actor literally wigged out over an edit of the poster cause it covered her face and made her lipstick red
@ I mean even Cynthia said she should have it between her friends and I think she has I right to feel how she feels, but it's okay, you Don't have to agree with her
@@MostLikelyDani sorry, I messed up the wording of my first comment🤣
Emotional incontinence
What an incredible platform Cynthia had, as an artist, to elevate other artists by sharing their Wicked-inspired fan art. Food for thought.
Jensen Ackles said best : "We are not curing cancer we're making a tv show. But if someone is lying in a hospital bed watching a show that makes them laugh, they find some inspiration or it helps them to fight a little bit more and that's the kind of stuf that that gets me emotional."
You can tell some of these actors and actresses haven't done a hard day's work in their lives. As for the rest of us, as long as you keep your yard decently clean, we're good.
Solider boy!
Tbh even if the crying is a bit over the top, they both are so grateful for what they have
@@Wickedfun96You assume that because you believe everything you see and are told without question.
Thank you for adding this perspective. I hate it when the criticism swings too far the other way, claiming movie makers have forgotten their place: they are just for entertainment. Films perform an essential function: to entertain, yes, but also to inspire and ennoble the human spirit.
The transition from the weeping witches to Denzel saying "it's just a movie... Relax" - chef's kiss 👌
I don't mind people crying out of true appreciation for their co-workers and their hard job and for knowing what got them to the top. But crying every three seconds just kinds shouts "I'm emotionally blackmailing you so you don't talk bad about me"
It shouts emotional incontinence which we mistake for authenticity
I watched the movie and now understand why they cry so much
That bad?
Cynthia Erivo is being such an insufferable diva. If this is how she treats her fans then how the heck is she going to deal with her critics?
She’s very talented and used to be quite normal. Now she’s a parody of herself. Fame + intersectional “identity” has made her insufferable.
What did she do?😮
Cynthia and Ariana are making it very difficult to want this movie to succeed when they are both insufferable narcissists.
If it was a series taken from the book many this would be distrubing the traveling circus animal/sexual acts , elpies family background, the scarecrow government then getting torn apart , the animal human magic rights and jail. The jewels the slipoers were made from and the wars.
The musical is watered down
@@Diana-fg2vydamn. I need to read the book
Exactly. I despise them all
I guess you can hardly get into a position like that without being a narcissist. 🙄🙄
Calling them narcissists is insane. Narcs literally lack empathy and go out of their way to HARM others ☠️ Ariana isn't even close to a narc she used to be the hugest people pleaser
Those emotions are fake, meaning they aren't even good actors. Fake emotions, fake, overpaid people. Wouldn't even watch their film for free, thank you.
Plus: As someone who genuinely loves movies: I am also tired of all-encompassing fake CGI sets, really filmed in green rooms and of fake AI filters and generators to make people look younger. SO BORING!!!!
@@channelchenboohoo cope hater. It's NOT boring. CGI is great. You have horrible taste and are not a fan of movies at all boomer
I think it's the opposite, it isn't fake it's visible they're vulnerable and shaken up... It's definitely bizarre
@@channelchen they actually had actual sets. Maybe before Judging a movie do your own research
I disagree. I just watched that movie five minutes ago one of the best movies I’ve ever seen and I was crying and so was half the audience. It’s not just about friendship. It’s living with an evil world of hatred. They call good evil and evil good The evil witch was not evil. She ended up being good who fought against injustice. The wizard was evil oppress people and he offered the witch come sit here. I’ll make you queen you’ll be rich. Let’s rule over it in injustice. She had a whole empire attacker because she alone stood against tyranny, and she was rejected all her life because she was different one of the best movies I’ve ever seen if not the best.
Between this and the reaction to fans editing the poster... im gonna pass on this. I just do not care.
Can you explain to me what happened with the poster please? This is the day I don't get why the controversy was so big
I didn't pay too much attention to all the drama when I went to see the film. It was pretty good in my opinion.
@@Tolovo they edited it to make it reflect the standard art which doesn't show her face and she took it personally. Look up the wicked playbill and you'll understand.
Don't see it, I did and it was exactly how you'd expect. The capital in the Hunger Games made it.
It’s so funny that this chick was named “icon of the year” by all of these magazines that nobody reads anymore and I’ve never even heard of her up until he had her narcissistic tempter tantrum. And even then, I have a hard time remembering her name.
I’m watching this video, where BC has said her name like three or four times, and my brain is like “she’s not important, I’m not logging that in. I’m keeping something more important, like how to make waffles”
You’re probably not a movie watcher then because she’s had some pretty good roles. That’s okay. But to diminish her talents just because you haven’t heard of her isn’t okay.
@@AlecexoLol.
I actually knew who she was before she was casted for wicked, she was casted in a movie Harriet and performed at the Oscars. Not everybody needed to know her before she was casted for wicked
that’s what I’ve just thought. I can’t remember her name for the life of me
This is why theater kids only hung out with theater kids in school
really? can you expand on this?
@@seanmartin681 because they are for the most part mentally unwell! lol
@@marionhtjtluit’s not even a joke.
Many people have testified that once they became close with many actors and people in the limelight those people revealed to them HOW TRAUMATIZED AND UNHEALED they are.
Like…we need to protest consuming anything with them in it. Not as a hate campaign but as a way of FORCING THEM TO HAVE A SEAT AND GO HEAL!
All they are doing is spreading all of that hurt and pain into everyone who watches their stuff.
Please, but them out of business for their own sakes.
I declare and decree that every unhealed actor, musician, tv host, and other form of entertainer has been PUT OUT OF WORK due to audiences rejection everything that they are in.
I declare and decree that they have taken that down time to HEAL THEIR INNER CHILDREN AND HAVE FOUND AND DEVELOPED A RELATIONSHIP WITH HE WHO IS HOLY, HE WHO IS LOVE, and they GO ON TO LIVE THEIR BEST LIVES IN CHRIST!
Being loved and putting forth love.
And while they are away healing,
I DECLARE AND DECREE THAT THE NEW GENERATION OF ENTERTAINERS WHO HABE ALREADY COMPLETED THAT PROCESS HAVE ARISE AND HAVE BEEN SET INTO POSITION, AND THE AUDIENCES ADORE THEM!
THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE A BREATH OF FRESH LOVING AIR!
THE WORK THEY CREATE IS WORK THAT HEALS NATIONS!
THEY ARENT THESE PERPETUAL VICTIMS! They teach people how to heal and show the masses the way to THE UNCONQUERABLE LIVING LIGHT OF OURE RIGHTEOUS MERCIFUL LOVE!
THEY ARE THE ROLE MODELS THAT THE TRAUMATIZED GENERATIONS
THAT PRECEDED US DESPERATELY NEEDED, but didn’t get because the system was too busy promoting vapid narcissistic unhealed greedy people.
And it is so.
It is done in the earth as it is done in heaven,
In Jesus Christ’s name above all name,
It is done in every city in every nation in the earth.
Amen.
@marionhtjtlu narcissistic for sure.
@@seanmartin681the truth is that they hung out w/ each other bcuz they can be as openly camp, weird, dramatic, melodramatic, etc. as they want & still be accepted & supported for who they are. Humans gravitate towards ppl they feel comfortable, accepted, & share similar interests with. Plus, they often feel othered & excluded…sometimes they truly are & sometimes they just exclude themselves.
Im using this as a therapy for “feeling comfortable with being uncomfortable”; I’ve had to stop the video like 3 times now. I haven’t being able to do it to the full video yet. Hyperventilated couple times, almost threw up.
I hope your okay
I keep saying this - there's so much untapped talent in the world. I see community theater productions that rival Broadway, independent film, student films, local improv troops etc. If I was a filmmaker, I'd focus on all that fresh undiscovered talent. For one, it keeps the costs of production low, and two - you'd work with truly humble actors thanking their lucky stars that their dreams were coming true. Finally, I remember reading about a director who liked to work with unknowns because he said it felt more real and immersive. When you see a well-known star playing a part sometimes it takes you out of the moment because you know their face and other roles pop into mind.
Completely agree but I bet a large number of those actors do it because they love the craft and not the fame that could ruin their lives and the lives of the people around them
This!
Tell this to entertainment industry executives. When a project is as big as Wicked, it cannot fail. They cannot risk it putting it on hands of unknowns. They cast Cynthia and Ariana, especially Ariana, to conquer a whole market and tap into it to sell tickets, merchandise, etc. If it was about talent only, I think Cynthia has a better case for it than Ariana, but we all know many Brodway actresses could play and sing as much as these two can.
@@suzybearheart530 you're acting like older actors in the industry can't be humble
@GBop89 I never said that, I know there's good ones. I'm just saying there's a lot of undiscovered talent, and it would be cool to tap into. It would make a lot of talented unknowms very happy to make their dreams come true.
Side note - there's lots of community theater actors that can be divas too, I'm sure. Nobody's perfect. I'm just saying why do we have to see the same faces over and over, especially when there's other talent out there who would really appreciate the opportunity?
I really don't want to judge someone based on what they wear, but... why is it so hard for celebrities to put on something that doesn't look it was taken from clown's wardrobe?
Because they are the modern day clowns 🤡 and their circus
It’s called “fashion”, they’re not at the supermarket or at the DMV, they’re at an interview or red carpet, of course they’re gonna wear an artistic piece of clothing
@@LeKongster that is not "fashion" its called ugly clothing.
First of all, any hero is never the victim. Second, why are these overpaid, over privalliged actors taking all the credit for the movies?
A hero can be someone who was victimised but chooses to move forward regardless. Like people who have all the claim to play victim but choose not to.
Because the creators of the movie are literally making them. Do you not know how promo works? Every movie sends the main cast on a press tour to gain attention for the premiere… this isn’t exclusive to these two
@Alecexo when they make it woke, they make it all about themselves. Secondly, they are not that good at promo, seeing as many people are turned off by the movie, you claim that they are sent out to promote.
@@AlecexoI mean, not every movie. More to the point, the writers and directors used to be the ones who got the glory. Thats why so many people remember Tarantino's name. I havent heard the focus on a director in a while
@ they are told what to do and say in these interviews like I said. If you see a press tour for a movie and think their answers aren’t rehearsed, then you need to rethink that.
The interview with the Australian reporter was genuinely emotional and beautiful
I was a professional dancer and performer in broadway shows for many years. It was a blessing to get to make a living performing. I never once thought that I was saving lives lol it’s entertainment. Yes it required years of training and hard work. And yes it’s an art. But it’s certainly not saving lives. It’s just entertaining. These people need to get over themselves 🙄🙄🙄
Denzel said it: it’s a LUXURY
Can we stop quoting rapists and diddys friends???
@@EughhBrothereughhis Denzel confirmed to be on the list?
@@brianaguilar8283 No, evidently he didn't have any of it and bounced b/c he wasn't about that scene
It is entertainment, but we should also elevate high art. We need more statues of writers, composers, painters, and people that promote and elevate their nations' culture.
@@caseyhill636 actually art can save lives. Seeing yourself and being understood in art can actually be very helpful when you feel alone in your everyday life
They're acting like they wrote the damn musical themselves. Imagine if the cast of the movie version of Hairspray were like this on tour.
yep exactly. Yet the actual writers don't get to go on press tours and get emotional at the impact *they're* having on people. No, instead they have to strike for better pay, fear for their job security because of ai, and watch as actors take all the credit.
Was
Look out it's the literacy police..get a life or a cat. Wicked (WAS) garbage..
@@carolineking7934Look out it's the literacy police. Get a life or a cat. Wicked (WAS) garbage..
Since the beginning of Hollywood, actors have always been manufactured though, and the studios worked hard to make stars somewhat relatable.
For example, when Elizabeth Taylor was a teenager, there were a myriad of articles printed about how she was 'just a regular girl' going to the beach and to football games. Elizabeth herself said later that it was all rubbish.
Expecting authenticity from Hollywood is like expecting water in a desert. Hollywood, by its nature is all superficial and contrived.
Exactly 👏🏻
Very true !
😂 r u ok? I looked through your library of videos and im honestly wondering. R U Ok?
I said this on another video, but i am surprised she took the role considering her face is painted green. Doesn't that "erase" her? 🥴🥴🥴
😂 im Dead
Don't forget mandatory eyebrows too
@SuperMarkizas 🤣🤣🤣
Its racist to all green aliens out there, whose voices are seldom taken jn consideration.
I kept thinking of Shrek.
Blaming fans has worked out sooooo well for them in the past. That's a bold move Cotten, let's see how this plays out.
Love the reference!
If you can dodge a wrench! You can dodge a ball!
"I hate Americans!" - Ariana Grande (she really said this)
“Can we bring back adults?” Omg yes! For real!!
I think social media has played a huge role in the lack of authenticity and humility. It isolates us from truly being around people and in the real world and that kind of bubble can be isolating and make it hard to connect with others in real life. It also enables people to think a lot more about themselves since they post about their feelings, opinions, etc, and I think that’s why we see so meant people making things about them and being prone to being more emotional, rather than restrained and dignified.
I'd say it's folded in on itself. We already had a long era of people in the media being restrained and dignified. The problem was that this became an extreme in the opposite direction in some instances, where a very emotional situation was treated with roboticism (or if the person was emotional, they were judged for not keeping things professional). UA-cam was a breath of fresh air and took off partly because creators weren't like the stuffy TV media. They were themselves and just filmed in bedrooms or other quirky personal areas. Back then, authenticity was real because it was a side effect, not a goal. But as with most things, once enough people praise something for a certain attribute, that attribute becomes flattened and caricatured. Now, emotion = authenticity to many. The solution isn't to go back to restraint and dignity as a prime target. What we need is a goal that allows both for real emotion and encourages maturity.
Oh screw off, you act like feeling emotion is a bad thing. I think you need to see a therapist.
I totally agree with you
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This is as fake as fake can be wtf are you on about.
I think that the “over-emotional”-ness comes from the incredible amount of work everyone in this film put in. I think because we only get to see the results, we can’t appreciate just how much of themselves they poured into this. You can tell from their performances how much they have worked for this. Living up to such an iconic broadway performance has got to be the most emotionally exhausting and full filling thing an actor can do. For them this is an experience they have probably dreamed of for so long (since it took so long to make). And especially because performing is such an emotive art form, I can totally see how they would be as emotional as they are.
I'm so glad people are beginning to see through the facade that is Hollywood, the music industry, and fame.
But it’s fun! Like all of this is entertainment. They know what they’re doing and are feeding the audience that wants more. It’s not that deep
I know I'm not the target audience for this movie but I'm not sure based on the press tour who is the target audience anymore.
Dude... it's always bi-curious wine aunties.
That has been the default "modern audience" for like... 20 years now.
@ephraimwinslow 😂
The same audience who likes the new Jaguar ad
Ariana looks like she hasn't seen sunlight in six years
She isn't even pale. I would look like a ghost next to her, and I'm not even the palest person I know. She legit has brownish-yellow skin.
So? Pale skin is beautiful too and that’s her natural skin tone
it's the eating disorder beb
For real, she looks like something that crawled out from under a rock, or a deep sea fish that never sees sunlight
this is just what she looks like without the spray tan
To the commentator. A movie a song or art in general can be both enterteining and medice to the soul. Inspiring, empowering people with great messages.
What's odd is that Cynthia looks more normal with the green makeup on. Her day to day look is like quite unsettling.
She looks like Humpty Dance from Digital Underground with that hat 😂
Literally. Didnt know that being "queer" is basically wearing oversized garbage bags and more rings than saturns
can you elaborate what you mean cause idgi?
For me it’s the nose piercing, mostly, but also the claw nails and then the piles of earrings. I just find all those things jarring on anyone. But mostly…I can’t with the septum piercings. I don’t know why anyone would ever get one 😳
I agree she looks amazing as Elphaba
She kinda looks like a randomized character on a character creator in a game
When the results came in and Trump won Ariana Grande posted this, “Holding the hand of every person who is feeling the immeasurable heaviness of this outcome today”.
No you are not and physically can’t. What goes through your mind to write stuff like that. Do people take comfort in her imaginary hand holding during any bad news?
“World War 3 was just declared. Giving soft head pats to all the young people who will be drafted soon.“
The people she’s talking about are all those on the Epstein and Diddy lists whose freedom depends on a Democrat cover-up. Their tears are delicious.
Shes a whole weirdo and 9/10 she probably voted for him behind the scenes and comes to her audience for brownie points and clout z feeding off of their emotions 😭 it's like when the kar-Jenners voted for him and was crying abt his behavior to their audience , all these rich ppl are fake. They know politics are the way to get ppl talking
😂😂😂
I have this strong visual of Ariana Grande with millions of tiny, perfectly manicured hands.
It’s her inflated sense of self to the point that she thinks by her saying that, it does comfort many and reflects nicely on her. If an average joe said that, they’d look self-absorbed. Problem is the fans eat her shit up.
It's ok. Just let it flop. If there are people, who want to reward this nonsense, let them waste their money. But it won't be a lot of people, Universal will lose money and they won't try this on us again.
I hope this flops hard. 👍🏻
@@caballeinsan1535same
It's not flopping😊
@GBop89 oh it will
@@thefunnychiptuneman you thought you ate😂
They're treating this film like, Passion of the Christ
your commentary is so real it's refreshing. I go to a Dramatic Arts school for theatre design and we always talk about the role of the actor, and thankfully there's been more of a conversation lately about shifting focus from the actor as the driving force of the play, realizing that everything that's in the stage matters, and how actors need to rely on what's outside of themselves to perform.
I also think that they hold so much to the victim mindset because it's all they have to be relatable, and the only way they can justify not being humble, like "I won't stop being this way because after all I've suffered I deserve being treated however I want, or being given whatever I want". I think Western society clings so much to labels, that they've become their personality. You can't just be queer, or just black, or just latin, they seem to be badges of honour for who suffers the most, ergo, deserves the most. I'm not mad about people being proud of where they come from, or who they are, but it does seem phony when your lifestyle and your actions don't align or help the community you are so actively still trying to be a part of, kinda like JLo still trying to cling to the Bronx and being from the block lmao
THIIIS!!!
I love everything about this comment.
I love when Cynthia A explainee her insane reaction was,because she was protective of her character when all her complaints were about herself, not the character she's playing, getting "erased."
The thing that gets me is that these already privileged people like cosplaying as "Jennys from the block" with rags to riches stories when they were just the rich kids who worked hard to get richer.
That's why most are completely insane. They were never normal to begin with.
Worked hard? Come on. They worked mid at best.
(Hard work literally scars you. No one who has the time and energy to put out daily tweets and/or reels talking about how fab their day was actually working hard.)
Period
The irony of the defense is that the fan made the poster did it in reference to the art of the character. So there couldn't have been a need for her to 'defend' her character because there was nothing being done that was reducing it.
That would be like Keanu Reeves getting mad that someone made the Sonic 3 poster have Shadow in the same pose he was in for SA 2
@@hk1371 K. Now imagine you're a professional narcissist whose primary drive in life is literally (explicitly, by your own admission) BEING SEEN.
Now ask: would anything make you angrier than your own face being less visible on a promotional image?
Yeah.
(You have no idea how trash the people you're speculating about actually are. And it's high time you figured it out.)
@ephraimwinslow oh yeah, I know. Thats why I'm pointing it out. It's because she isn't "defending the character". She's being, as you said, a narcissist.
The characters are supposed to be teenagers. The actresses look like they could be the characters' moms. 😲
The character aren't supposed to be teenagers, because they are supposed to be 20 or 24 years old
@@jaquelinespereira9070
WhatEVER, the point is they shouldn’t look like they have a mortgage and a divorce under their belts
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access do u have any idea on how they can change their faces then if that bothers you so much?
@@jaquelinespereira9070 Aren't they supposed to be freshmen in college? That would put them at least within the 17-19 age range.
@@LuisSierra147 No, I did some more in-depth research and saw that Elphaba and Galinda are between 21 and 23 years old.
Okay Becky from San Francisco, just because you have no friends/relationships/connections in real life, doesn't mean nobody else does. Ariana and Cynthia toured together for such a long period when promoting wicked and wicked is a very emotional story, ofc they're gonna be crying and attached to each other. Before judging other people's relationships, worry about yourself
Not Ariana acting like a victim after the shit she did….
wait what did she do?😂
@@sauceboi_rellcheated with a married man, supported a serial killer, ruined the world tour korean concert.
@@sauceboi_relli guess they’re talking about her having an affair with a married man and encouraging him to leave his wife and new born child. That’s the only thing i remember hearing
@@AbigaleKirsten she was also married herself and cheated on her husband. She had posted a picture for their anniversary in like May or something and then was seen with Ethan on her birthday in June and I believe her husband had flown over for her birthday. Ethan's wife Lilly also posted a happy birthday message to him in June so they were still very much together
Licking donuts@@sauceboi_rell
I remember when watching celebrities was always fun and interesting and entertaining...and now we have Brie Larson, Rachel Zegler, and the cast of Wicked.
And the effect is the opposite: I hate these people and I would never want to see them in a movie.
How has Hollywood gone so wrong for so long now?
Don't forget Blake Lively
@Fleshbag453
Work on your euphemism-fu. Don't let a minimum effort algorithm police your speech.
They have always been like this - except the social media is now in every aspect of our lives and celebrities cant hide who they are anymore.
@klaradolejsi7103 Nah. I'm not a Westerner, so she doesn't offend me.
Because Gen Z and younger Millennials, a main sector of their target market, are not all that bright generally speaking and so they don't know what talent is.
These girls need to get over themselves and eat a freaking cheeseburger
They'll try to make that into a statement and never shut up about it.
They just need to GO AWAY in general.
Its not about friendship its about not getting along and looking at certain people different because they look different base on skin color, outfit ect.
This gives me hunger game vibes. I grew up a theater kid and ADORED wicked. I’ve read the book before it was a show. I have a “meh” feeling about this movie because it feels so vapid and surface level. The women are very talented singers and actresses so I hope the same intensity and energy brought to the stage is brought to the screen. I don’t think I’ll see it in theaters but maybe I’ll watch it when it comes out on streaming
I don't think they have the energy to bring any intensity, they both look sickly.
It was honestly great. I hate that it’a being tarnished by these ridiculous interviews. Both of their performances were stellar
Even the way Rachel said “they probably just had a bad day, and I’m making a movie”
No wonder she rubs people the wrong way.
Remember, kids. The Wicked Witch is not evil. You are. You are for thinking of her as evil.
There's no such thing as right and wrong, but you're still wrong.
@AF-tv6uf it was not right or wrong. It was evil.
Post-Modernism and it's destroying our nation & culture.
there's no such thing as good and evil, but you are evil
What the heck are you talking about Wicked is a story told from an entirely different perspective than the Wizard of Oz. the wicked witch isn't entirely evil or good and neither is elphaba
Have you never met a theater kid before?! LOL
I did "Into the Woods" my junior year of high school. 30 years later, one of my fellow cast members landed the lead role in the latest Broadway production. (She was Patina Miller's understudy.) On the night that she made her Broadway debut, almost the entire cast of my HS production was there to see it, and we all cried THE ENTIRE TIME! 🤣
IDK Cynthia and Ariana personally, but I figured that they were just acting like normal theater kids. Everything is dramatic and it never goes away. I haven't been on a stage in decades, but I'm still an emotional wreck when it comes to theater.
If you saw those two walking down the pavement towards you, you'd be like "what the hell?"... Ariana is skeletal, and Cynthia's nails... well, I guess she doesn't wipe very thoroughly.
Bidet??
Yeah what the hell is up with these chicks trying to cosplay Lady Deathstrike 24/7
@@bZmanMoney doesn’t change class is why.
I've spent an embarrassing amount of time thinking about that problem... and my best guess is:
They use the heel of their palm.
It wouldn't work very well... but it would work well enough to serve as a stopgap measure before taking a shower.
Imagine dealing with piercings with those things on! Those tiny ball bearings are a pain In the hoop without talons lol.
They both remind me of the aristocrat class of previous eras - vapid, vain, self obsessed, flippant. Putting on outrageous outfits just because they can. Dripping in privilege and boredom so they event drama just to have something to do. Their entire appearance is carefully crafted at all times and they are constantly acting out a grandiose persona when on camera. Just screams narcissism.
Cynthia’s bizarre appearance says it all. They might as well be aliens to me.
The lack of maturity on display kind of exemplifies how so many current influences try to encourage self-centered/childish behavior, including not being introspective or being critical of yourself or what you're likely being told to believe and accept.
Man, this video is so judgy, non empathetic and superficial. Too bad, seriously. I personally cried a lot during the movie. It may be just a movie for many, but I identified with so much of Elphaba and it took me back to the little me who felt many of those things at a point in my life, doubt, fear, anger, not belonging and on the outside I was “apparently strong”. So no, its not just a movie, there are just people who do not connect that way and are way too superficial to even feel and understand the real message behind this movie. I think both actresses know how much of an impact they are making and will make with these interpretations of their characters and that’s why they are so emotional because they really feel that.
It's hard to feel empathy towards people who are so fake and void of anything real. Everything they do is an act. Bunch of drugged up weirdos
It is just a movie.
@ we don’t need ppl like you in the world, thanks ;)
@@Fineviechso?
@@Fineviechit’s a movie so it’s a form of art that’s done to connect with people most of the time emotionally (?
These people have graduated from annoying to completely insufferable.
12:11 not Drew PETTING Martha Stewart 😂😂😂
Martha handled her splendidly, the way others need to; gently but firmly tell her to back off, with a 😊smile
😂😂
Martha should have snarled "Back off, b*tch! I'm NOT a poodle!" And then I would have gone over to Martha's website and buy some overpriced sheets in approval.
I hate that she always INVADES everyone’s personal bubble! that’s a pet peeve of mine when people I don’t know on a truly personal level stand or sit or talk too close to me, it makes me hyper aware of my own body and theirs.
Eewwwww i can't STAND Drew Barrymoore. Her interviews are so awful and cringe because she makes every one of them about herself... even when the person being interviewed is amazing, she still turns it into her story
This comment section is so sad, apparently it is okay to shame women’s bodies normally and criticize their bonds. Ariana and Cynthia look perfectly healthy for their body proportions, and so what if they are close enough to cry with each other?
Frr 😭 most of these people in the comments have 0 friends or connections irl and were never loved by their parents and therefore, want everyone else to be as miserable as they are. All you can do is pray that maybe one day they'll find someone who loves them
Idk why you cover celebraties so much they don't care about you or the people because you are not them
Amen guys
You look like them?
Isn't it always a prevalent issue of prolificising Models and Celebrities who are ulta-thin to young impressional girls, let alone in a kids movie.
Both of them looks emaciated, you shouldn't be able to see striations in your back muscles without serious and controlled diet & exercise. This is not naturally thin, this is ozempic & living off lettuce thin. They both dramatically became thinner during the movie.
Why do the poor/common people get body positivity & told to not comment about weight/image as if it were non-existant, but thee celebs get a pass on blowing thousands of dollars on weight loss medicine just so they can deceive their fans that it's normal/attainable.
@@spicyheather9001you don't have to know someone to care about them. This is a selfish way of thinking.
Asking a theatre kid not to be dramatic is like asking an art critic not to be pretentious
This is too much.
Actors have always been kinda weird and dramatic, but nowadays they are so weird and dramatic they became unlikeable
What I love is how they act as if the movie they’ve acted in is the first virtuous movie to exist simply because they’re in it and their particular identity is in the starring role. As if movies with morals, friendship, and important messages haven’t been existing in media for decades, regardless of the racial or sexual identity in the starring role.
And as if every library book in the fantasy genre isn't this same cliche story about a 'freak' who a bunch of undeveloped, strawman side characters keep persecuting and bullying with no motivation. I never liked this trope, it's unrelatable and relies on strawmen. Who is supposed to be believable, Glinda? I know it's supposed to be fun to relate to a victim, but this trope is soooo overused and boring at this point. Every library book in the world. Why can't they just write real characters.
They're literally doing PROMO for the movie. They have to sell it and convince others to watch it. They're doing their job as they should
Even the short snipets from interviews are boring... I am scared to watch the movie itself
Imagine how those of us who actually read the book feel.
i just dislike that it’s just part 1 and not the whole musical and they barely mention that
That part
@@buffalowig what????? Insane
I did not know the book is that long
personally i enjoyed the movie and i think the actors did a great a job. they’re just trying way too hard to promote it
It's kind of a strategy. They interviewed for movie promotion which is "mainly" female friendship, they need to be seem real besties alike in the movie.
In female friendship, it's hard to admit it but they cry A LOT. When sharing secrets, making apologies after the cold war, whenever.
They even cried in interview with Idina and Chenoweth. It was not only me catching Idina feeling awkward being in the middle of that weird situation.
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Tbf, Drew Barrymore had a very intense and rough life growing up that affected her immensely. She had no father around her, Add terrible mother who was okay bringing her daughter to grown up parties. At least the wonderful Keanu Reeves helped her out.
Still not acceptable for the way she behaves and conducts herself.
@@twinkletoes6290Agree. The woman has serious mommy issues. She treats all her interviews like therapy, expects all her guests to get emotional and invades their personal space. She's weird and needs therapy.
Bfr its not like she actually hurt someone @@twinkletoes6290
Drew barrymore is fake af. They always play the "rough" upbringing card. It's utter bs. As someone with a very "rougj" upbringing, I didn't become a fake narcissist.
I hadn't thought abt how conceited & privileged it is to claim their movies are saving lives. Can't unsee it or the fake emotions now. 😳
I saw a recent interview where Ariana said her low-end pop song "Break Free" saved lives. I don't know if she's delusional or her fans need more saving than pop music can offer.
Yeah. Tell that to the people in Western NC after Helene. It really is disgusting.
@@jenniferrhoades8956 are you referring to me?
Well I think many people can tell you that art got them through tough times. It’s really not that conceited lol. You just don’ vibe with this art in particular. This is the problem with right-wing talking points: y’all start trying to make “common sense” arguments that immediately fall flat when you talk to real people.
Art has kept me going for years. How dismissive
honestly. I am so sick of them
I was on the edge of watching this, but the poster incident tipped me to staying home.
Same, also learning that cynthia talks poorly of african americans was the last straw personally