Phenom 2 has a special place for me. I got a x2 550 for 85$ back in like 2010 and got a particular gigabyte board that let me unlock it to a quad core. I ran it as a quad at 3.6ghz for the entire eight years I used it (finally upgraded to a 5600x) good chips for the time.
Those phenoms can actually beat early fx chips in fps and can somewhat keep up with the last release of fx chips. Remember I did say somewhat. Also the phenom x4s were better than fx 4000 series cause the 4k fx chips were borderline dual cores. So again phenom was amd's badassery chip set up until Ryzen and even the first gen Ryzen were kind of yawn inducing.
Same. In 2015 I went FX 8350 to build an XBOX One X killer as the specs were revealed so I went 16GB ddr3, my first SSD (120 GB Kingston) and an RX 480 8 GB. OCed to 4.5 Ghz I had my Xbox One X killer. Thing is...it didn't kill it. Just beat it and provided better resolution with higher settings in most games. I was using an HD 7850 with my Phenom II X4 965 but it wasn't enough for me when I went to the FX.
good to see u went back to retro stuff. it might be a shocker but im still running a Phenom II X4 965 BE with a radeon HD 5570 in 2022 and doing office work with them . i bought them both back in 2010 or 11 cant remember exactly but both are still running stable.
@crimsonlion100 still running the setup to this day with almost no maintenance on win10 with latest updates. Its a media/office setup now which once used to be gamed on and still can run skme old games pretty fine
Had so much fun with these, especially the core unlocker. Athlon II x3 450 to a Phenom II x4 B50, Phenom 860T to a Phenom II x6. Don't forget the limited edition unofficial Phenom TWKR. My favourite though was unlocking a single core Sempron to a dual core Athlon so it could run DiRT 3 which it then did 😎
I've been using my Phenom II x4 945 up until a couple of months actually. Back in the day when I bought it new, it was part of my main rig. Then over the years I upgraded and passed it on to my sister, who had been using it up until three years ago. Once she upgraded, I got it back and made it a part of the secondary PC I keep running for media storage and the like. Only recently I upgraded that secondary rig and finally put it into well-deserved retirement. It is possibly my favorite CPU out of all I had over the years.
Middle schooler me had a 2 cores Phenom II X2 and I was lucky to unlock it to 4 cores with a stable +0.5 GHz overclock I think but at the price of constant borderline harmful voltage and a lot of heat haha. I was doing some fine 720p gaming on a budget back then with my Radeon HD 5770. I was also dreaming of the X6 when it released! Happy memories :)
@@cheedam8738 I had to disable dynamic voltage reduction and go to something like constant 1.5 or 1.55V for the CPU to be stable. It was running hot! 4-5 years ago I returned it to its original configuration. Despite the abuse, it's still running daily in a low performance system I assembled for a relative of mine. Good CPU :) !
@@RazgrizDuTTAYeah the HD 5770 was a great GPU, in fact it’s still standing today in lighter games like CSGO and PUBG and I know that PUBG is a heavier game but its lighter than some new triple A games and it’s doing much better than some GPUs like the GT 710 and the GT 730.
@@RazgrizDuTTAy HD 5770 can run Minecraft 1.19 flawlessly and with low-medium shaders at 30-40 FPS wich is impressive considering how heavy version 1.19 is and that it’s a 14 year old GPU.
This is your third video with this cpu, however I'm glad that you took another look at this beast. It has been in my system for the last 6 years, and it works flawlessly on an am2+ board with 8gb of ram at 800mhz CL6. Please can you check whether you have the virtualisation instructions active or not? I've noticed that having it on reduces the performance of some applications by 10-70%. The effect seems more pronounced in single threaded and older applications. For example a game like Giants Cityzen Kabuto goes from 15fps to 150+fps, Killing floor 1 from 20-30fps to 80+fps, while a more modern one like Killing floor 2 has a lower difference going from 30-40fps to 40-70fps. Microsoft excel goes from struggling doing basic things to crunching thousands of cells that depend on each other without any problem. For what concerns the temperature it may very well be right. The throttling temperature for this class of processors is at around 60ish degrees and with a cooler way smaller than the one you are using I'm at 40-50C when doing something intensive. Overclocking wise I cannot overclock not even by one MHz but that seems more a MoBo problem than anything else.
The temps can't be right. I used to have a x4 955 and I refuse to believe that somehow my x6 1055T runs much, much colder than the x4 used to. I think that some mobos just read the temp sensors in a faulty way.
@@cooperp6429nope, i got phenom II x3 720BE and its hotter than my FX 8320E. Both are 95watt cpu but that phenom when playing games it will produce 51 - 55° celcius meanwhile FX only hit 44-48° celcius when playing games. I'm using same cooler and paste from phenom to FX. I'm using phenom II from 2010 - 2016, then i bought used FX and use it until late 2022. Now i'm running R7 7700X which is more hotter than phenom II at 69° celcius when playing games. At least this time i put more fan case and using better air cooler so i don't feels the heat
I used this processor with an asus board and 16gb ram, upgraded to 32gb ram, in 2011. Its is still my daily driver today even though I have a ryzen gaming rig. Its runs well and has never let me down once
Just knowing how slow it is.. I could not rationalize even browsing the net on that old thing. Not that it's a chug.. just mentally would not be ok with using the far inferior setup to do the day to day things.
@@christophermullins7163 Why not? I have an old ass laptop that is literally worthless that I use for my daily browsing. It has a single core and special low demand Linux and I still happily use it when out and about cause if someone steals it I just shrug and walk away.
@@christophermullins7163 As for using an old desktop for daily tasks I'd definitely do it. Especially if I needed two desktops (I don't.) Most people overspend on daily drivers thinking they need an i5 just to do daily tasks when all u need is a basic Celeron. Or go super used and cheap and buy a old core 2 duo system. Most pc's are overkill for 90% of users such a waste honestly.
@@cortezbaldur413 thing is.. a 2022 celeron is several times faster for web browsing etc. I am totally with you that a new i5 is only put to good use running games and an i7 doing some sort of production etc. I have a 6th gen i5 and a 4th gen i5 in my kids minecraft rigs I found one for free and got one for $40. I also got a i7 7700/gtx1080 full machine for $275.. Point is.. old phenom is a throw away machine in 2022 especially if you have the cash to have ryzen money. Get the celeron for browsing or the like. The phenom needs to be put to rest lol good that people use older hardware. I am NOT a hardware snob.
This is awesome, I ran my 1090T right up till december 2021 with a gtx1060 6 g. Paired with a hyper 212 evo cooler which I picked up used, temps were never above 60. But alas, even with the 1060, my system was often bottlenecked, so I upgraded to an am4 platform. But the old 1090t was always a reliable champ!
@@Naffacakes98 No, it isn't, especially if the resolution gets bumped to 1440p, to create a bit more load to the GPU. The RAM bandwidth is the real limiting factor, really.
I just put back into action a FX 8370 build. It started its life with a Phenom chip. In its final and maxed out configuration it has the Fx 8370, a gtx 980 and 16gb of 2133mhz ddr3 ram. The cpu is bios overclocked with a hyper evo 212 cooler. The MSI "Military Grade" capacitors are still holding up and that system started with much lower specs but actually makes an amazing home theatre pc or 1080p medium to ultra settings gaming pc. It is also doing double duty as a NAS at the moment but why not. DONT THROW OUT AN OLD PC, REPURPOSE IT AND KEEP IT OUT OF THE LANDFILL
I actually had a phenom ii x6 and replaced it with an fx 8350. There was some difference in performance especially in newer game titles and I was pretty happy with both of them. Just a month ago i decided to get a used ryzen 3700x and in normal desktop use there isn't any noticeable difference, but in games there's a massive one. I love all of those CPUs especially the FX. I think it aged much better than most give it credit for.
@@balthazor4ever "I think it aged much better than most give it credit for." They were never good to begin with and didn't age well either. But for most people the CPU is not important as there is hardly anything that stresses it if you do not also get a highend GPU.
Only issue I see is that the FX chips where a bit of a wattage heavy CPU , It would be outpaced these days by a 7w Y series laptop CPU , It's still perfectly usable but it's probably not very efficient.
Back in the day my brother had a Phenom II x4 quad-core and GTX 560 Ti. That PC was an absolute beast and we played Planetside 2 all day. I still play Planetside 2 today every now and then, and the game still is maintained excellently by the devs 10 years later. Lot of fun, try it out, it's free :)
@@sgtsetia I thought there was lol. I watched some dude on youtube absolutely destroy his PC's performance by going from 16gb to 2gb ram last week, (hence my initial comment) but i just watched it again and it turned out he was using ddr3 ram 😅
The 1090T was the first higher end CPU I ever used. I remember going to microcenter and buying one not long after they came out. Ran that CPU until I got a 4770K shortly after they were released years later. It was great for running a handful of VMs which I used to do school labs at home instead of having to drive to the school on the weekend.
My first quad core was Phenom x4 9550. Amazing CPU back then paired with HD3870 in CrossFire. I was dreaming about Phenom x6, but never happened. Funny fact, it was real six core, while FX 6100 wasn't and Phenom sometimes outperformed FX CPUs. Nice video.
Great video as always. I think if you ever want to do one more video of this CPU, you should find a OCable board and do testing with max possible stable OC. 1090T can do 4.0+ GHz iirc. DRAM should be around 1866 to 2000 MT/s. NB should be between 2500-3000 MHz.
My old gaming PC uses a CPU from the same era AMD Phenom II x4 925. I use it now as my secondary PC for movies and light gaming. I was surprised how many newer games work relatively well.
I turned a Phenom II 550 from an X2 to X4. Chip was $100 at the time of I remember right... Good MSI motherboard. Wow those were the days..I was SOOO blown away that I got the free cores. And, it was a decent overclocker on top of all of that
This was my dream CPU at the time, too. I own 2 of these (well, two of the 1055T), I actually bought them this year as part of building a retro hardware collection. Managed to get them for around $30 USD a piece off AliExpress and I also scored a few really nice boards locally - got a GA-MA790FX-DQ6, M4A79 Deluxe, 890GX Extreme4 and a few others. I was actually using a 4GHz 1055T up until 2017 when I moved on to Ryzen - I used to be impressed by how well the CPU was still doing 7 years after its release. Sadly, 5 more years later things are a bit rough for anything modern, but it's still a fantastic trip down memory lane.
@J.C. Denton What motherboard? If its 760g chipset don't bother unless you heavily undervolt and cool the VRM. These chips need a good vrm with a big heatsink and/or lots of directed airflow unless you want to have frame stutters despite low temps (power limited and throttling) like in this video and other newbies on various forums back in the day
I had the 1055T as my main machine up until Ryzen launched, and I saved my pennies to go to a Ryzen 5 1600. Partly because I needed better performance, partly because my AM3 motherboard was dying -- but I actually have a new board with the intent of reviving the Phenom build for retro gaming :)
I had the 1100T and at the time it was great for gaming on more of a budget compared to Intel CPUs of the time and was AMD's best CPU. It aged terribly though and isn't all that usable even for a budget system these days unless you are only playing games from that time. Compare that to the i7 2600 that came out a few months later and that is still usable today in a budget system. It only went downhill when AMD launched the FX range of CPUs too as the first wave actually struggled to keep with their older stuff.
Funny that you mention FX CPU's because I have an FX8320 that I use for playing games and rendering videos. It plays older games okay but newer titles struggle to hit 60fps.
@@BREEZYM6015 FX-83x0 processor should give you stable 40 FPS in most new titles, but nothing more. But they are far better than Intel 4c/4t CPUs from the era in terms of stuttering.
Huh. I have no problems running things like Forza 5 or RDR2 with the SSE fix. Mind you, this is with a 980 Ti, but it’s also with 14gb of DDR2 800. Funky combo, but effective for me, and still get stable frametimes
I had that thing too. It didn't overclock well, it was hot, loud and the single core performance was so damn low. But still was a decent upgrade from a q6600
Watching this on my 1090T from 2011. It's in its third motherboard, second computer case+RAM+GPU+PSU. I don't even know which Windows installation. In late 2019 I was thinking of upgrading to a brand new machine, but... yeah. I started a new remote job, which requires a beefy machine, so I was looking at new stuff... but right now I'm looking at doubling the RAM instead. It refuses to falter.
i had this exactly one for a long time, and even tho many games literally cant open, this is still a powerful little piece of cpu, i've now long switched to a newer cpu but i still cannot forget how much fun i had using this one
One of my first actually decent gaming rigs had a CPU of this era, I forget exactly which but I had a Athlon II X3 with the fourth core unlocked, 8 GB of RAM, and a OEM Radeon HD 7570. Played a lot of Borderlands and TF2 on that rig.
I'm still running this since 2010. Looking to upgrade as I can't wait for AMD unannounced AI desktop processor support. Looks like I can settle for the 7800X3D for 2 years. Than AI will be more established software and hardware wise.
My Rust server is running on a Phenom II x6 1075T w/ 16gb of ddr3 and it has been going strong for about a year now without a crash. Good to see the Phenom series still getting some love.
34c/C 🤣 Had this CPU in the past paired with GTX 960 4GB until 2018, the CPU was well aged never upgraded to FX generation and leaped to R5 2600.. Great video of my old 1090T friend 👍
I have a 1055t. It still holds up fine with a R9 270. Played Plague not long ago and can even play Elden Ring with some tweaks. I bought it for my first build and it will always hold a special place in my heart.
I love your content! I have used the 1090t and then the 1100t in the past till I upgraded to the 9590fx (that I still using). It will be nice to see also a couple of productivity benchmark maybe photoshop / premiere to see how it perform for people that works with the computer
This was the very first CPU I bought for myself. I went from old office PCs my dad brought home from work to a Dell prebuilt with a Core 2 Duo to this. This was the CPU I used along with my Radeon HD 6870 when Battlefield 3, Skyrim and Diablo III were released.
Last year, while browsing at a flea market, i came across a fairly large and expensive looking PC. Which turned out to be from around 2009. They were asking $40 so i figured alright. And it sat for a while, but right now actually, I'm getting it going. Inside of a Cooler Master Storm Sniper case, which to me, alone it was worth $40 with it's 850w power supply. It has *this* CPU, with a liquid cooling system. only 8 gb of DDR3 memory, and Nvidia GTX 260 gpu... Well fortunately a friend just gave me 12gb of memory, so I'll be adding that. And i picked up a Radeon RX 580. I know it's not the most advanced machine money could buy. I'm on a budget of almost nothing right now. I prefer older games though, classics and some indie games, so for me it's good for now. Later on i can take what I've got and build something more up to date. I'm not in a rush. Save money this way.
Regarding the temperatures: the AMD cpus before AM4 did not have temperature sensors in the cpu or the socket. The place where temperature was read and calculated from, varied from motherboard to motherboard. At best case, there was a sensor on the back side of motherboard, behind socket. On top of that, often the temperature that was shown, was not actual temperature of the cpu but rather how much above Ambient temperature it was. Here, for example. If the cpu temp showed 34C and your room temperature were 24C, the actual temperature could be 58C. In short: Pre-AM4 cpus are only guessing the temperature instead of getting an exact reading.
It would be cool for AMD to revive the phenom lineup but ryzen 5 exists. I thought a phenom II X6 1055T would be a good pair with the RX 580 a few years ago! Some of these chips are better than FX
ikr im still usin my 1045t as my main rig with a .01% pentium 4 impurity.. "a pin broke off i ripped a doner off a pentium4 and soldered it to the phenom2 lol i find if you dont play crap games the missing extensions arent even noticeable lol
I had a Phenom II x4 965 with a Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P mainboard. The system has served me very well and the components do still work to this day. The GB mainboards back then were something else. Never had a board with such a nice price/performance ratio and build quality.
You gotta give it up to this cpu! was the cpu in my first build served me well till ryzen came out. Still have the rig today loaded with games difficult to acquire now lol
Fun fact, the 960T could sometimes be unlocked to a 5 or 6 core! I had an Athlon II tri-core CPU that unlocked to 4 cores and overclocked to a STAGGERING 3.8ghz lol Plus "Thuban" is such a fun word to say....Thuban....Thuban....Thuban.....just rolls off the tongue lol
@@valantis7901 not sure what you're asking? ht is hypertransport, similar to infinity fabric on ryzen but instead of the 'IOD' in the cpu package, these have a 'northbridge' on the motherboard. the clock speed of the ht is insufficient at default settings. if you're also asking what the max safe vcore is don't worry, you'll be unable to cool it before it gets high enough to damage it. if your vrm didn't have heatsinks, a lot of 970/990 boards didn't, you should add one or point a fan directly at the MOSFETs...
The temp is pretty much correct. One of the great things about the Phenom and Phenom 2s is that they ran surprisngly cool compared to other cpus. I had a slower Phenom II x4 955 and it never went over 60C with the stock cooler.
Same here, even overclocked mine never really went above 40C; bearing in mind these CPUS fell apart and stopped working if they exceeded about 55C. I still have my 1090T, and will be building a "new" old spec XP system, to run some older games.
I just dusted mine off again last night. It's a little fiddly, but you can overclock them to 4.1ghz and it bumps the performance up quite a bit. But the lack of newer instruction sets really does hamper it.
i remember drooling at the phenom boxes on display at a pc shop across from my bus stop to work but by the time i saved and got round to building my pc in 2012 i went for the intel 2500k for my first build and later upgraded to my current 3770 (i has laptops before then but they died of heat stress...). building my 2nd build this week with a 5700g, i hope it got all the needed instruction sets......glad i didn't get the phenom :)
a friend of mine still uses his phenom x6 1075t + gtx 750 ti. for usual internet stuff and playing world of tanks (60-100 fps on medium settings) it still seems to be doing fine.
I was wondering when this chip would make an appearance on your channel. Back when the Phenom II line was new, I bought the cheapest quad-core I could, the x4 810. I didn't have anything to 'unlock' back in those days except and extra 2MB of L3 cache which did help in synthetic benchmarks. The one thing I remember best from that CPU was the absolute insane amount of overclocking headroom it had. It came 2.6Ghz stock and by the time I was done I had it ripping along at 3.8Ghz on a beefy air cooler. Paired with 8 gigs of RAM and a GTX260 I had a beastly machine for the time. One of these days I'll rebuild the system just for old time's sake.
The fact it does this well this many years on is great i skipped the phenom cpu,s and went intel with the i5 2500k the only intel pc i built new back to amd now i like supporting the underdog and never had any problems or things to dislike with my amd builds .My xp gaming pc is running an x640 quad core cpu in an am2 plus board at 3.4 ghz with a radeon 7870.
From what I know most modern games more often don't require those newer instruction sets but their DRM does which will prevent the games from launching.
Mine is still running today, my first PC I put together myself at 16 years old. 6 months ago I brought the PC down from the attic and it is still running fine. It's a Phenom 1090t with an Asus M4a88td-v, Asus GTX 560ti, and Corsair 16Gb DDR3. It ran everything back then, oh boy I was so proud of it.😂😂😂
Here I provide a body of knowledge via information to help you: Gaming aside it has 6 FPU on it, so it can do a reasonable modest video processing for codecs that are not always on every GPU built-in _(such as some ogg vorbis theora)._ Same goes for many an application using FFT. The coolers are interchangeable between many an AM3 (etc) board. Also, being a quad core or more (6core), it can do the blake2b hashing for IPFS, etc. It would have been more optimal to do the test twice btw with say a GPU like a rx570-8GB, less likely to lend the CPU to stutter or voice-chat drop out. Then try voltage up to 1.55v like say 1.425V for 4GHz clock (or 1.475V for 4.1GHz), keeping it 55 to 56 Celcius tops. So for 1.45V as mentioned above, also do the bclk at 286 and northbridge at say 1.325 too. You are running 3.2 to 3.6 GHz. So remember all 6 FPU will get that OC'd benefit. even some games get helped by that too. My comment has no hate in it and I do no harm. I am not appalled or afraid, boasting or envying or complaining... Just saying. Psalms23: Giving thanks and praise to the Lord and peace and love.
I had a 1055T a while back and it was lower clocked on default... but the trick was to underclock your ram multiplyer, deactivate the boost clock etc for the cpu and then change the base clock from 200MHz to 225 or sth and you had your memory clock back at normal and the CPU at 4GHz at all cores.Worked well.
I had 1055T back in the days paired with 2x2GB of DDR2 and HD 5850 i belive. It was a sweet pc :) Another great video! Thank you. P.S. I would like to see new colab video with you sis :)
I used a 1090t from Dec 2009 to 2021 very reliable and games decent. I retired it in 2021 now it just checks email and watches UA-cam . I am happy with 3950x rig for the past 2 yr.
I loved my X6 1090T, even when Ubisoft said they wern't supporting them for Farcry 5 yet paired with my old R9 390X Sapphire Nitro it ran it beautifully. I was using it up until 5 years ago and didn't run into any issues.
I had a 1055T back in 2010-2012. 2.8 GHz stock with 200 MHz base clock gave you up to x14 CPU core multiplier. Base clock was OCed to 286 on Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 (this was after I burned VRMs of MSI 790FX GD70 and 890FX-GD70 lol), and CPU ran at 4.0 GHz stable, North Bridge ran at x10; 2860 MHz. some of those cheap DDR3 1333 C9 ran at 1600 C8. And with that OC, boy the performance improvements were so good. I think I remember I ran around ~2000 MT/s DRAM for a short period of time.
I have a Phenom II X4 955, I got it from my friend last year for my birthday, I don't have a motherboard or anything, just own the CPU, because used to really really wanted one. :D
A friend of mine is currently still stuck with his first ever, brand new home built PC. He is currently using an AMD Phenom II X6 1075T with 8GB of RAM. The motherboard and graphics card are the only items not original from when he first built the machine. As the most recent game he owns is Doom from 2016 and it plays great, he has not needed an upgrade. Well, he wants an upgrade, but its on the back burner to life at the moment and has been a long while now. The Phenom II was a heck of a processor though, it was a shame to see what the FX series became.
I should also add, my friend's PC with the 1075T is all core overclocked to 3.7GHz, on a socket AM3+ AsRock motherboard. When he built it originally, he had used a socket AM3 MSI motherboard which died when I tried to overclock the processor the first time... turns out that AM3 motherboard could barely handle a stock Phenom X6, let alone trying to overclock. The processor, current motherboard and the DDR3 RAM running in the machine have been running great and overclocked for the past 11 years. The graphics card he started out with was a Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 2GB (later added a second in Crossfire) and he now has a Sapphire Radeon Nitro+ RX 480 8GB. He games at 1920x1080, and for all the games he currently has and plays, the system has been plenty.
You took the bus because why not take the bus?🤣 My motto in life is: When in doubt, defenately steal a bus! LOL Man, this really brings back memories. I thought I was the coolest guy ever when I got one, and totally loved pointing out how much better my CPU was than my buddy's. I'm pretty sure he went and got an i7, so there wasn't much to argue about after that. For a little while at least. Great video as usual. Looking forward to more!
It would be interesting to see how it perform overclocked. Fast search showed me that it should be able to run at 4GHz @ +0,125V VCore. This Phenom will run either at 3,6 GHz when 3 cores are used or 3,2 GHz wit all 6 Cores. After OC it would run 4GHz all cores and that would be a big difference. Most games today will use all 6 cores so +25% clock speed would really benefit this CPU. As for temperatures I had Phenom 1045T and while rendering video (those CPU were beasts for multi-thread workload back in the day!) it runs ~55 C. Considering you don't use closed PC Case and have a bigger cooler then I had (I used smaller tower with 120mm fan) those temperatures are possible while gaming.
I have two favorite Phenom II: X3 720 and X6 1090T. I upgraded to X6 1090T from X3 720 when it was available in my country. I still have the X3 720 but sold the X6 1090T when I switched to FX 8320.
I bought a broken biostar TA970 with a borked bios. I already had one laying around. I took the working bios and swapped it over to the broken mobo and got into bios flash, i swapped the borked chip right before flashing and it works now. I was surprised to see that the seller sent this CPU along with the motherboard! Super cool. I thought it was a garbage athalon. The reading is def. due to the chip mis-reporting the temp to the bios, I have the same problem with this cpu and a x750k FM2 cpu.
Phenom 2's are special, given the core unlocking feature with some chips. Phenom II x3's were all quad core chips that could be unlocked, and the Phenom II x4 840T was actually a 6 core chip that could be unlocked, denoted by its CB marking on the processor
The 1090T is a beast! I've been running overclocked at 3.8ghz (cool and stable) for over 12 years, playing lots of games released during that long period of time. It's only just started to struggle with certain games and won't play RDR2 probably due to lack of instruction sets. The 1090T has served me very well for far longer than I ever imagined would be possible. My system upgrades over the years saw 3 different gfx cards, switch from hhd to ssd and doubled memory but the 1090T remained constantly strong and just kept on going!
Now that you have the board & RAM, any plans on grabbing say a FX 6100/6350 to compare it to what came after, then round things off with Ryzen with like a Ryzen 5 1600 to have a comparison of the 6 core cpus over the sockets (AM2+/AM3 -> AM3+ -> AM4)
I still use a phenom 1090t in 2024, I use it for office, browsing and even played Jedi Fallen Order last month ... with a cpu 14 years old ... .Imagine a cpu of 1996 with a game in 2010. The point is: the development in chip production isn't the same than it was 20 years ago, but the marketing of the companies is far better. They want you to buy products you don't need. Unfortunately they lock you out of newer games, because they implement the usage of ssse3 recently. So even it's still fine for me, I going to change it to an "rather new" used ryzen 2600 and probably go the next decade with it. Don't believe the marketing gangsters.
I used to run a 965 BE with a GTX 260 216 and I ran a lot of games like a champ. Granted, I was running at some like 1280 x 1024 or something like that but this was 2009-12 and a lot of people didn’t even have 1080p monitors yet.
We have a Phenom X3 PC at work, as one of the gifted ones. Decided to make a retro gaming system out of it, but haven't tried unlocking the fourth core yet 🤭
Great video! Have a Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H (rev. 1.3) where I swapped the trusty Athlon X4 640 to the X6 1090T, and the 2*2GB to 2*4GB, paired with an XFX Radeon RX460 4GB silent gpu. Sadly don't have much time to find the limits, except the limits of the cpu cooler, that runs up pretty soon... And I already have the next 2 gen as upgade, with mainboards (a FX-6350 and a Ryzen 3 1200)...😀 After this video I'm not so sure how much upgrade/diffence the upgrades will make.
Loved mine. Got it to 5Ghz when new but voltage creep/damage bought it down to 4.8 in the end. Ran it with 5870/5870/5970 for a while before changing to Sandy Bridge for the higher IPC performance. Was a beast with a single GPU but kneecapped the quadfire setup.
I had an Acer machine with a 1035T at the time, and it was a beast for the price (around £400 for the whole machine which included a blu-ray drive too). Eventually I transplanted the system into a bigger case with a new power supply and GPU and it served me well for a few years before upgrading to a 6th gen i5.
The phenom 1090t was the CPU my wife used for her main PC for the best part of nine years. Once I was able to upgrade, I was then able to loan her my 5820k build, and more recently found a 6950x to drop in for cheap enough to roll the die on it (it was listed as a customer return). For her sensibilities, I feel like she can get on with a mini itx build, if I'm doing it for her.
I can't remember which Phenom II I had, but that with my GT 560 was my first real desktop from best buy, fast forward to today been saving for three years and working during the Pandemic as a Cashier, Customer Service. Finally building my long overdue ASUS RoG Strix 3080Ti LC, 32GB DDR4 3800 CL14, and a 5800x3D. Woohoo! Been a journey. 😅 🖥️ Good memories of that Phenom II introducing me to PC gaming as a whole, Star wars Republic Commando, F 3, Fallout New Vegas, Minecraft, Civ 4.
Phenom 2 has a special place for me. I got a x2 550 for 85$ back in like 2010 and got a particular gigabyte board that let me unlock it to a quad core. I ran it as a quad at 3.6ghz for the entire eight years I used it (finally upgraded to a 5600x) good chips for the time.
Those phenoms can actually beat early fx chips in fps and can somewhat keep up with the last release of fx chips. Remember I did say somewhat.
Also the phenom x4s were better than fx 4000 series cause the 4k fx chips were borderline dual cores.
So again phenom was amd's badassery chip set up until Ryzen and even the first gen Ryzen were kind of yawn inducing.
@@cortezbaldur413 Other than Threadripper 1950x Zen 1 was bad. Zen 1+ was meh but, it finally got great with Zen 2.
Same here! I still use my unlocked X2 955BE aka B50 with the Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H. Overclocked to 3.7GHz too
@@cortezbaldur413 true, i totally skipped the Fx series. I went for an Intel i5 3570k, and i am now at the Ryzen 3700x.
Same. I used Phenom IIs after an Athlon. God I love those times.
I had a quad core Phenom from 2009 to about 2015. Served me pretty well.
Same. In 2015 I went FX 8350 to build an XBOX One X killer as the specs were revealed so I went 16GB ddr3, my first SSD (120 GB Kingston) and an RX 480 8 GB. OCed to 4.5 Ghz I had my Xbox One X killer. Thing is...it didn't kill it. Just beat it and provided better resolution with higher settings in most games. I was using an HD 7850 with my Phenom II X4 965 but it wasn't enough for me when I went to the FX.
ive had an fx 6300, now a ryzen 3 1300x, and now an i7 8700k
I had a Phenom 2 x6 1045t on my rig I built in middle school (2012). Worked great with a GTX 560 Ti at the time.
Same, same years. I had the x6 1100t though.
good to see u went back to retro stuff. it might be a shocker but im still running a Phenom II X4 965 BE with a radeon HD 5570 in 2022 and doing office work with them . i bought them both back in 2010 or 11 cant remember exactly but both are still running stable.
I'd be curious to know if you still are. because honestly, ballin.
@crimsonlion100 still running the setup to this day with almost no maintenance on win10 with latest updates. Its a media/office setup now which once used to be gamed on and still can run skme old games pretty fine
Had so much fun with these, especially the core unlocker. Athlon II x3 450 to a Phenom II x4 B50, Phenom 860T to a Phenom II x6. Don't forget the limited edition unofficial Phenom TWKR. My favourite though was unlocking a single core Sempron to a dual core Athlon so it could run DiRT 3 which it then did 😎
I've been using my Phenom II x4 945 up until a couple of months actually. Back in the day when I bought it new, it was part of my main rig. Then over the years I upgraded and passed it on to my sister, who had been using it up until three years ago. Once she upgraded, I got it back and made it a part of the secondary PC I keep running for media storage and the like. Only recently I upgraded that secondary rig and finally put it into well-deserved retirement. It is possibly my favorite CPU out of all I had over the years.
Middle schooler me had a 2 cores Phenom II X2 and I was lucky to unlock it to 4 cores with a stable +0.5 GHz overclock I think but at the price of constant borderline harmful voltage and a lot of heat haha. I was doing some fine 720p gaming on a budget back then with my Radeon HD 5770. I was also dreaming of the X6 when it released! Happy memories :)
Woah stable unlock, so damn lucky
@@cheedam8738 I had to disable dynamic voltage reduction and go to something like constant 1.5 or 1.55V for the CPU to be stable. It was running hot!
4-5 years ago I returned it to its original configuration. Despite the abuse, it's still running daily in a low performance system I assembled for a relative of mine. Good CPU :) !
@@RazgrizDuTTAYeah the HD 5770 was a great GPU, in fact it’s still standing today in lighter games like CSGO and PUBG and I know that PUBG is a heavier game but its lighter than some new triple A games and it’s doing much better than some GPUs like the GT 710 and the GT 730.
@@RazgrizDuTTAy HD 5770 can run Minecraft 1.19 flawlessly and with low-medium shaders at 30-40 FPS wich is impressive considering how heavy version 1.19 is and that it’s a 14 year old GPU.
This is your third video with this cpu, however I'm glad that you took another look at this beast. It has been in my system for the last 6 years, and it works flawlessly on an am2+ board with 8gb of ram at 800mhz CL6. Please can you check whether you have the virtualisation instructions active or not? I've noticed that having it on reduces the performance of some applications by 10-70%. The effect seems more pronounced in single threaded and older applications. For example a game like Giants Cityzen Kabuto goes from 15fps to 150+fps, Killing floor 1 from 20-30fps to 80+fps, while a more modern one like Killing floor 2 has a lower difference going from 30-40fps to 40-70fps. Microsoft excel goes from struggling doing basic things to crunching thousands of cells that depend on each other without any problem. For what concerns the temperature it may very well be right. The throttling temperature for this class of processors is at around 60ish degrees and with a cooler way smaller than the one you are using I'm at 40-50C when doing something intensive. Overclocking wise I cannot overclock not even by one MHz but that seems more a MoBo problem than anything else.
Hope he sees this
you mean the secure virtual machine mode? cant find anything about virtualization than that on my MoBo
The temps can't be right. I used to have a x4 955 and I refuse to believe that somehow my x6 1055T runs much, much colder than the x4 used to. I think that some mobos just read the temp sensors in a faulty way.
@@cooperp6429nope, i got phenom II x3 720BE and its hotter than my FX 8320E. Both are 95watt cpu but that phenom when playing games it will produce 51 - 55° celcius meanwhile FX only hit 44-48° celcius when playing games.
I'm using same cooler and paste from phenom to FX.
I'm using phenom II from 2010 - 2016, then i bought used FX and use it until late 2022. Now i'm running R7 7700X which is more hotter than phenom II at 69° celcius when playing games. At least this time i put more fan case and using better air cooler so i don't feels the heat
I used this processor with an asus board and 16gb ram, upgraded to 32gb ram, in 2011. Its is still my daily driver today even though I have a ryzen gaming rig. Its runs well and has never let me down once
Awesome :)
Just knowing how slow it is.. I could not rationalize even browsing the net on that old thing. Not that it's a chug.. just mentally would not be ok with using the far inferior setup to do the day to day things.
@@christophermullins7163
Why not? I have an old ass laptop that is literally worthless that I use for my daily browsing. It has a single core and special low demand Linux and I still happily use it when out and about cause if someone steals it I just shrug and walk away.
@@christophermullins7163
As for using an old desktop for daily tasks I'd definitely do it. Especially if I needed two desktops (I don't.) Most people overspend on daily drivers thinking they need an i5 just to do daily tasks when all u need is a basic Celeron. Or go super used and cheap and buy a old core 2 duo system. Most pc's are overkill for 90% of users such a waste honestly.
@@cortezbaldur413 thing is.. a 2022 celeron is several times faster for web browsing etc. I am totally with you that a new i5 is only put to good use running games and an i7 doing some sort of production etc. I have a 6th gen i5 and a 4th gen i5 in my kids minecraft rigs I found one for free and got one for $40. I also got a i7 7700/gtx1080 full machine for $275.. Point is.. old phenom is a throw away machine in 2022 especially if you have the cash to have ryzen money. Get the celeron for browsing or the like. The phenom needs to be put to rest lol good that people use older hardware. I am NOT a hardware snob.
I still have the 1055t, overclocked at 1090t level. I use it as a secondary hobby pc, running Linux.
Nobody:
Guy from the comments: "I'm using Linux"
"i used ARCH btw"
I also run Linux on a x6 1090t machine
I run artix Linux with i3 wm and polybar on a Intel Xeon E5450
@@delian3650 literally me every time.
Oh, and so to speak i'm using Linux.
This is awesome, I ran my 1090T right up till december 2021 with a gtx1060 6 g. Paired with a hyper 212 evo cooler which I picked up used, temps were never above 60. But alas, even with the 1060, my system was often bottlenecked, so I upgraded to an am4 platform. But the old 1090t was always a reliable champ!
Which am4 board? 😬
@@AwesomeBlackDude a b450 msi tomahwk 2
Just upgrading mine now. I had mine paired with a GTX 1050 3GB. I got a great deal on a Ryzen 5900X, going to be a huge improvement.
@@herbertholland924 yeah, that's a great upgrade, Congrats!
I super loved my Phenom II X6 1090T way back when !!
Best CPU EVER!!
It really ran well and fast, I was really impressed and AMD won me over...
I was running an 1100T until early last year. And it did perfectly fine with my 1660 Super at the time. Still have that system on my diagnostic bench.
Great combo :)
Thought that would be a massive bottleneck
@@Naffacakes98 not only that, due to missing instructions it doesn't even launch some games like apex legends for example
@@Naffacakes98 No, it isn't, especially if the resolution gets bumped to 1440p, to create a bit more load to the GPU. The RAM bandwidth is the real limiting factor, really.
@@ЛюбомирДинков even at higher res, should still bottleneck massively
I just put back into action a FX 8370 build. It started its life with a Phenom chip. In its final and maxed out configuration it has the Fx 8370, a gtx 980 and 16gb of 2133mhz ddr3 ram. The cpu is bios overclocked with a hyper evo 212 cooler. The MSI "Military Grade" capacitors are still holding up and that system started with much lower specs but actually makes an amazing home theatre pc or 1080p medium to ultra settings gaming pc. It is also doing double duty as a NAS at the moment but why not. DONT THROW OUT AN OLD PC, REPURPOSE IT AND KEEP IT OUT OF THE LANDFILL
"DONT THROW OUT AN OLD PC"
That is fine - if it is not an FX-chip.
I actually had a phenom ii x6 and replaced it with an fx 8350. There was some difference in performance especially in newer game titles and I was pretty happy with both of them. Just a month ago i decided to get a used ryzen 3700x and in normal desktop use there isn't any noticeable difference, but in games there's a massive one. I love all of those CPUs especially the FX. I think it aged much better than most give it credit for.
@@balthazor4ever "I think it aged much better than most give it credit for."
They were never good to begin with and didn't age well either.
But for most people the CPU is not important as there is hardly anything that stresses it if you do not also get a highend GPU.
Only issue I see is that the FX chips where a bit of a wattage heavy CPU , It would be outpaced these days by a 7w Y series laptop CPU , It's still perfectly usable but it's probably not very efficient.
Back in the day my brother had a Phenom II x4 quad-core and GTX 560 Ti. That PC was an absolute beast and we played Planetside 2 all day.
I still play Planetside 2 today every now and then, and the game still is maintained excellently by the devs 10 years later. Lot of fun, try it out, it's free :)
The 560Ti used to be my dream GPU! Thanks for the planetside info I’ll have to try it out!
I never got into these then, but collect them now. Ah, retro hardware!
In case you want retro gaming experience for a low budget, just use a modern pc with only 1 or 2 gigs of ram :)
@@TheTryingDutchman ugh...
@@TheTryingDutchman is there any 2gb ddr4? :)
@@sgtsetia I thought there was lol. I watched some dude on youtube absolutely destroy his PC's performance by going from 16gb to 2gb ram last week, (hence my initial comment) but i just watched it again and it turned out he was using ddr3 ram 😅
The 1090T was the first higher end CPU I ever used. I remember going to microcenter and buying one not long after they came out. Ran that CPU until I got a 4770K shortly after they were released years later. It was great for running a handful of VMs which I used to do school labs at home instead of having to drive to the school on the weekend.
My first quad core was Phenom x4 9550. Amazing CPU back then paired with HD3870 in CrossFire. I was dreaming about Phenom x6, but never happened. Funny fact, it was real six core, while FX 6100 wasn't and Phenom sometimes outperformed FX CPUs. Nice video.
Great video as always.
I think if you ever want to do one more video of this CPU, you should find a OCable board and do testing with max possible stable OC. 1090T can do 4.0+ GHz iirc. DRAM should be around 1866 to 2000 MT/s. NB should be between 2500-3000 MHz.
My old gaming PC uses a CPU from the same era AMD Phenom II x4 925.
I use it now as my secondary PC for movies and light gaming. I was surprised how many newer games work relatively well.
I turned a Phenom II 550 from an X2 to X4. Chip was $100 at the time of I remember right... Good MSI motherboard. Wow those were the days..I was SOOO blown away that I got the free cores. And, it was a decent overclocker on top of all of that
i bought it like 50$, true the perf lift was insane and compete with i5s, at 1/4 price
I still have one of these on my main PC (can't afford a new pc at the moment) and it still works like it's brand new, minus the one DDR3 issue I had
no wait I have a 1100t
I got one for sell but I doubt you’d be able to play mw3 or new games like that
@@spadesofpaintstudios1719 guess what, I built a new PC, skipping AM4 and DDR4, it has a Ryzen 7 7700X with 32GB of CL30 RAM and a 7900GRE
This was my dream CPU at the time, too. I own 2 of these (well, two of the 1055T), I actually bought them this year as part of building a retro hardware collection. Managed to get them for around $30 USD a piece off AliExpress and I also scored a few really nice boards locally - got a GA-MA790FX-DQ6, M4A79 Deluxe, 890GX Extreme4 and a few others. I was actually using a 4GHz 1055T up until 2017 when I moved on to Ryzen - I used to be impressed by how well the CPU was still doing 7 years after its release. Sadly, 5 more years later things are a bit rough for anything modern, but it's still a fantastic trip down memory lane.
@J.C. Denton What motherboard?
If its 760g chipset don't bother unless you heavily undervolt and cool the VRM.
These chips need a good vrm with a big heatsink and/or lots of directed airflow unless you want to have frame stutters despite low temps (power limited and throttling) like in this video and other newbies on various forums back in the day
Great video. I have an 1100T that is still in service today, but has moved on to my home server. It does a great job as a file and video server.
I had the 1055T as my main machine up until Ryzen launched, and I saved my pennies to go to a Ryzen 5 1600. Partly because I needed better performance, partly because my AM3 motherboard was dying -- but I actually have a new board with the intent of reviving the Phenom build for retro gaming :)
its a really bad cpu for retro gaming as older games care primarily about fewer cores and higher clock speeds.
I had a phenom II x4 965 black edition and really enjoyed it. I still have it as an XP old game pc. Nice video!
I had the 1100T and at the time it was great for gaming on more of a budget compared to Intel CPUs of the time and was AMD's best CPU. It aged terribly though and isn't all that usable even for a budget system these days unless you are only playing games from that time. Compare that to the i7 2600 that came out a few months later and that is still usable today in a budget system. It only went downhill when AMD launched the FX range of CPUs too as the first wave actually struggled to keep with their older stuff.
Funny that you mention FX CPU's because I have an FX8320 that I use for playing games and rendering videos. It plays older games okay but newer titles struggle to hit 60fps.
@@BREEZYM6015 FX-83x0 processor should give you stable 40 FPS in most new titles, but nothing more. But they are far better than Intel 4c/4t CPUs from the era in terms of stuttering.
Huh. I have no problems running things like Forza 5 or RDR2 with the SSE fix. Mind you, this is with a 980 Ti, but it’s also with 14gb of DDR2 800. Funky combo, but effective for me, and still get stable frametimes
I had that thing too. It didn't overclock well, it was hot, loud and the single core performance was so damn low. But still was a decent upgrade from a q6600
@@leotide1990 What res is that at? 720p?
Watching this on my 1090T from 2011. It's in its third motherboard, second computer case+RAM+GPU+PSU. I don't even know which Windows installation. In late 2019 I was thinking of upgrading to a brand new machine, but... yeah. I started a new remote job, which requires a beefy machine, so I was looking at new stuff... but right now I'm looking at doubling the RAM instead. It refuses to falter.
i had this exactly one for a long time, and even tho many games literally cant open, this is still a powerful little piece of cpu, i've now long switched to a newer cpu but i still cannot forget how much fun i had using this one
Nice review
One of my first actually decent gaming rigs had a CPU of this era, I forget exactly which but I had a Athlon II X3 with the fourth core unlocked, 8 GB of RAM, and a OEM Radeon HD 7570. Played a lot of Borderlands and TF2 on that rig.
back then 60hz was max, so any free fps will have huge impact, esp free cores
I'm still running this since 2010. Looking to upgrade as I can't wait for AMD unannounced AI desktop processor support. Looks like I can settle for the 7800X3D for 2 years. Than AI will be more established software and hardware wise.
My Rust server is running on a Phenom II x6 1075T w/ 16gb of ddr3 and it has been going strong for about a year now without a crash. Good to see the Phenom series still getting some love.
Back in a time it was a beast, even as fast as FX 8350
Athlon X4 750k here mate knocking about in the garage somewhere on a old desktop.. ahh the memories
34c/C 🤣 Had this CPU in the past paired with GTX 960 4GB until 2018, the CPU was well aged never upgraded to FX generation and leaped to R5 2600.. Great video of my old 1090T friend 👍
I have a 1055t. It still holds up fine with a R9 270. Played Plague not long ago and can even play Elden Ring with some tweaks. I bought it for my first build and it will always hold a special place in my heart.
I love your content! I have used the 1090t and then the 1100t in the past till I upgraded to the 9590fx (that I still using). It will be nice to see also a couple of productivity benchmark maybe photoshop / premiere to see how it perform for people that works with the computer
This was the very first CPU I bought for myself. I went from old office PCs my dad brought home from work to a Dell prebuilt with a Core 2 Duo to this. This was the CPU I used along with my Radeon HD 6870 when Battlefield 3, Skyrim and Diablo III were released.
Last year, while browsing at a flea market, i came across a fairly large and expensive looking PC. Which turned out to be from around 2009. They were asking $40 so i figured alright. And it sat for a while, but right now actually, I'm getting it going. Inside of a Cooler Master Storm Sniper case, which to me, alone it was worth $40 with it's 850w power supply. It has *this* CPU, with a liquid cooling system. only 8 gb of DDR3 memory, and Nvidia GTX 260 gpu... Well fortunately a friend just gave me 12gb of memory, so I'll be adding that. And i picked up a Radeon RX 580.
I know it's not the most advanced machine money could buy. I'm on a budget of almost nothing right now. I prefer older games though, classics and some indie games, so for me it's good for now. Later on i can take what I've got and build something more up to date. I'm not in a rush. Save money this way.
Regarding the temperatures: the AMD cpus before AM4 did not have temperature sensors in the cpu or the socket. The place where temperature was read and calculated from, varied from motherboard to motherboard. At best case, there was a sensor on the back side of motherboard, behind socket. On top of that, often the temperature that was shown, was not actual temperature of the cpu but rather how much above Ambient temperature it was. Here, for example. If the cpu temp showed 34C and your room temperature were 24C, the actual temperature could be 58C.
In short: Pre-AM4 cpus are only guessing the temperature instead of getting an exact reading.
I'm still using a Phenom II 965 myself and loving it for playing CS:S. Please tell how you get the system and fps display on the left of your screen.
Still use that CPU for my NAS and it works great. Bought it in 2011 when I build a gaming PC.
It would be cool for AMD to revive the phenom lineup but ryzen 5 exists. I thought a phenom II X6 1055T would be a good pair with the RX 580 a few years ago! Some of these chips are better than FX
Yeah they are, great lineup
ikr im still usin my 1045t as my main rig with a .01% pentium 4 impurity.. "a pin broke off i ripped a doner off a pentium4 and soldered it to the phenom2 lol
i find if you dont play crap games the missing extensions arent even noticeable lol
@@munkingu3600 Yes, Amd's first six core cpu but USED in 2022. Wording could be better but you get the point.
Considering how long Intel ended stayed on Skylake while still being competitive, AMD really should've stuck with Phenom a bit longer.
@NE1™ THIS IS TRUE!!! I had a fx8350 as a placefiller for my 1080Ti and the bottlenecking was the same or even worse.
I had a Phenom II x4 965 with a Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P mainboard. The system has served me very well and the components do still work to this day. The GB mainboards back then were something else. Never had a board with such a nice price/performance ratio and build quality.
Still have it, never going to sell it! Playing XP games with it is just awsome! Oldie goldie.
Damn bro it's 2am and I gotta be up in 4 hours but damn now I gotta watch it before I sleep..
You gotta give it up to this cpu! was the cpu in my first build served me well till ryzen came out. Still have the rig today loaded with games difficult to acquire now lol
Fun fact, the 960T could sometimes be unlocked to a 5 or 6 core! I had an Athlon II tri-core CPU that unlocked to 4 cores and overclocked to a STAGGERING 3.8ghz lol
Plus "Thuban" is such a fun word to say....Thuban....Thuban....Thuban.....just rolls off the tongue lol
thuban sound like some location in fantasy film/game
always love to see these ancient cpus still managing to play modern games. i saw some videos of people playing elden ring with the phenoms.
This series definitely needs manual OC, both on the CPU and the HT bus. Most 1090t's do 4ghz CPU and 3ghz HT. definitely wakes them up
Overclock vcore and ht?
@@valantis7901 not sure what you're asking? ht is hypertransport, similar to infinity fabric on ryzen but instead of the 'IOD' in the cpu package, these have a 'northbridge' on the motherboard. the clock speed of the ht is insufficient at default settings. if you're also asking what the max safe vcore is don't worry, you'll be unable to cool it before it gets high enough to damage it. if your vrm didn't have heatsinks, a lot of 970/990 boards didn't, you should add one or point a fan directly at the MOSFETs...
@@kingp00 I mean how to make overclock my 1055t 4ghz and 3ht? I have gigabyte 970ud3
I was laughing at the GTA V footage when you rolled out of the car!
I had the AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition . Overclocked too 4,0 GHZ served me well for many years :)
The temp is pretty much correct. One of the great things about the Phenom and Phenom 2s is that they ran surprisngly cool compared to other cpus. I had a slower Phenom II x4 955 and it never went over 60C with the stock cooler.
Same here, even overclocked mine never really went above 40C; bearing in mind these CPUS fell apart and stopped working if they exceeded about 55C. I still have my 1090T, and will be building a "new" old spec XP system, to run some older games.
I just dusted mine off again last night. It's a little fiddly, but you can overclock them to 4.1ghz and it bumps the performance up quite a bit. But the lack of newer instruction sets really does hamper it.
Oveclock vcore? I have 1055t
Ah I picked up mine back in 2011 before starting university. I have so many fond memories of it. The lack of SSE 4.1 instruction is what killed it.
First PC I built myself as a teenager had Phenom II x2 555, which unlocked to x4 B55. That thing was a beast for the money.
i remember drooling at the phenom boxes on display at a pc shop across from my bus stop to work but by the time i saved and got round to building my pc in 2012 i went for the intel 2500k for my first build and later upgraded to my current 3770 (i has laptops before then but they died of heat stress...). building my 2nd build this week with a 5700g, i hope it got all the needed instruction sets......glad i didn't get the phenom :)
a friend of mine still uses his phenom x6 1075t + gtx 750 ti. for usual internet stuff and playing world of tanks (60-100 fps on medium settings) it still seems to be doing fine.
Awesome :)
I've had the 1090t for 11 years, it was both my gaming CPU, then my wife's, now it's in our media PC and still gets used nearly everyday. Great CPU.
I rocked a 1090T back in the day and it served me well. I still have the chip and it's motherboard and ram packed away somewhere. :)
I was wondering when this chip would make an appearance on your channel. Back when the Phenom II line was new, I bought the cheapest quad-core I could, the x4 810. I didn't have anything to 'unlock' back in those days except and extra 2MB of L3 cache which did help in synthetic benchmarks. The one thing I remember best from that CPU was the absolute insane amount of overclocking headroom it had. It came 2.6Ghz stock and by the time I was done I had it ripping along at 3.8Ghz on a beefy air cooler. Paired with 8 gigs of RAM and a GTX260 I had a beastly machine for the time. One of these days I'll rebuild the system just for old time's sake.
Never expected to see this CPU on here. I got mine as a hand me down CPU and mobo in 2018, I just retired it in 2021. Enjoyed the vid, cheers!
Thanks for watching, glad to hear you got a good few years usage from yours
The fact it does this well this many years on is great i skipped the phenom cpu,s and went intel with the i5 2500k the only intel pc i built new back to amd now i like supporting the underdog and never had any problems or things to dislike with my amd builds .My xp gaming pc is running an x640 quad core cpu in an am2 plus board at 3.4 ghz with a radeon 7870.
From what I know most modern games more often don't require those newer instruction sets but their DRM does which will prevent the games from launching.
Mine is still running today, my first PC I put together myself at 16 years old.
6 months ago I brought the PC down from the attic and it is still running fine.
It's a Phenom 1090t with an Asus M4a88td-v, Asus GTX 560ti, and Corsair 16Gb DDR3.
It ran everything back then, oh boy I was so proud of it.😂😂😂
I picked up a tower with this cpu in just yesterday, water cooler, 4gb ram, am3 board. £20 quid.
Bargain 👌🏻
Here I provide a body of knowledge via information to help you: Gaming aside it has 6 FPU on it, so it can do a reasonable modest video processing for codecs that are not always on every GPU built-in _(such as some ogg vorbis theora)._ Same goes for many an application using FFT. The coolers are interchangeable between many an AM3 (etc) board. Also, being a quad core or more (6core), it can do the blake2b hashing for IPFS, etc. It would have been more optimal to do the test twice btw with say a GPU like a rx570-8GB, less likely to lend the CPU to stutter or voice-chat drop out. Then try voltage up to 1.55v like say 1.425V for 4GHz clock (or 1.475V for 4.1GHz), keeping it 55 to 56 Celcius tops.
So for 1.45V as mentioned above, also do the bclk at 286 and northbridge at say 1.325 too. You are running 3.2 to 3.6 GHz. So remember all 6 FPU will get that OC'd benefit. even some games get helped by that too.
My comment has no hate in it and I do no harm. I am not appalled or afraid, boasting or envying or complaining... Just saying. Psalms23: Giving thanks and praise to the Lord and peace and love.
I had a 1055T a while back and it was lower clocked on default... but the trick was to underclock your ram multiplyer, deactivate the boost clock etc for the cpu and then change the base clock from 200MHz to 225 or sth and you had your memory clock back at normal and the CPU at 4GHz at all cores.Worked well.
@@Emptiness_Machine_2001 Well done. What was your method (mboard?) for deactivating the boost clock on your particular setup?
@@obsoletepowercorrupts just a setting in the BIOS
Man this was my first cpu for my first build! I had the 1100T and I was so happy with the performance. Even out performed the fx chips years later
Yeah it did, feels like fx went a step backwards in a way
I had 1055T back in the days paired with 2x2GB of DDR2 and HD 5850 i belive. It was a sweet pc :) Another great video! Thank you.
P.S. I would like to see new colab video with you sis :)
I used a 1090t from Dec 2009 to 2021 very reliable and games decent. I retired it in 2021 now it just checks email and watches UA-cam .
I am happy with 3950x rig for the past 2 yr.
I loved my X6 1090T, even when Ubisoft said they wern't supporting them for Farcry 5 yet paired with my old R9 390X Sapphire Nitro it ran it beautifully. I was using it up until 5 years ago and didn't run into any issues.
You gotta get yourself a 960T and unlock it to 6 core. That old beast got me through BF3!
Great video! My Phenom II X6 1090T is currently in my parents pc and holding up quite well for basic everyday computing.
I had a 1055T back in 2010-2012. 2.8 GHz stock with 200 MHz base clock gave you up to x14 CPU core multiplier. Base clock was OCed to 286 on Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 (this was after I burned VRMs of MSI 790FX GD70 and 890FX-GD70 lol), and CPU ran at 4.0 GHz stable, North Bridge ran at x10; 2860 MHz. some of those cheap DDR3 1333 C9 ran at 1600 C8. And with that OC, boy the performance improvements were so good. I think I remember I ran around ~2000 MT/s DRAM for a short period of time.
I have a Phenom II X4 955, I got it from my friend last year for my birthday, I don't have a motherboard or anything, just own the CPU, because used to really really wanted one. :D
Bought an 1090T in 2010 and run it right until the Ryzen 5 1600 was released; one of my favourites cpus of all time aswell
The 1100T was my dream CPU for a long time. It was trouncing Intel's offerings and the 6 cores at the time was very unheard of for a consumer chip.
I still have two of them. It still works great to this day. I'm not gaming on them but they're able to do a ton of tasks very well.
A friend of mine is currently still stuck with his first ever, brand new home built PC. He is currently using an AMD Phenom II X6 1075T with 8GB of RAM. The motherboard and graphics card are the only items not original from when he first built the machine. As the most recent game he owns is Doom from 2016 and it plays great, he has not needed an upgrade. Well, he wants an upgrade, but its on the back burner to life at the moment and has been a long while now. The Phenom II was a heck of a processor though, it was a shame to see what the FX series became.
I should also add, my friend's PC with the 1075T is all core overclocked to 3.7GHz, on a socket AM3+ AsRock motherboard. When he built it originally, he had used a socket AM3 MSI motherboard which died when I tried to overclock the processor the first time... turns out that AM3 motherboard could barely handle a stock Phenom X6, let alone trying to overclock. The processor, current motherboard and the DDR3 RAM running in the machine have been running great and overclocked for the past 11 years. The graphics card he started out with was a Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 2GB (later added a second in Crossfire) and he now has a Sapphire Radeon Nitro+ RX 480 8GB. He games at 1920x1080, and for all the games he currently has and plays, the system has been plenty.
i like this av1 upgrade from youtube, its alot cleaner and sharper now even at 720p
You took the bus because why not take the bus?🤣 My motto in life is: When in doubt, defenately steal a bus! LOL Man, this really brings back memories. I thought I was the coolest guy ever when I got one, and totally loved pointing out how much better my CPU was than my buddy's. I'm pretty sure he went and got an i7, so there wasn't much to argue about after that. For a little while at least. Great video as usual. Looking forward to more!
It would be interesting to see how it perform overclocked. Fast search showed me that it should be able to run at 4GHz @ +0,125V VCore. This Phenom will run either at 3,6 GHz when 3 cores are used or 3,2 GHz wit all 6 Cores. After OC it would run 4GHz all cores and that would be a big difference. Most games today will use all 6 cores so +25% clock speed would really benefit this CPU.
As for temperatures I had Phenom 1045T and while rendering video (those CPU were beasts for multi-thread workload back in the day!) it runs ~55 C. Considering you don't use closed PC Case and have a bigger cooler then I had (I used smaller tower with 120mm fan) those temperatures are possible while gaming.
I have two favorite Phenom II: X3 720 and X6 1090T.
I upgraded to X6 1090T from X3 720 when it was available in my country.
I still have the X3 720 but sold the X6 1090T when I switched to FX 8320.
I bought a broken biostar TA970 with a borked bios. I already had one laying around. I took the working bios and swapped it over to the broken mobo and got into bios flash, i swapped the borked chip right before flashing and it works now. I was surprised to see that the seller sent this CPU along with the motherboard! Super cool. I thought it was a garbage athalon. The reading is def. due to the chip mis-reporting the temp to the bios, I have the same problem with this cpu and a x750k FM2 cpu.
Phenom 2's are special, given the core unlocking feature with some chips. Phenom II x3's were all quad core chips that could be unlocked, and the Phenom II x4 840T was actually a 6 core chip that could be unlocked, denoted by its CB marking on the processor
I bought a 1055T in 2011 after the release and reading the reviews of the FX series. A damn fine chip back then.
I still use a FX, what's wrong with them?
@@NicCrimson Weak IPC. Check some reviews with FX vs any modern CPU, it bottlenecks totally any modern GPU.
The 1090T is a beast! I've been running overclocked at 3.8ghz (cool and stable) for over 12 years, playing lots of games released during that long period of time. It's only just started to struggle with certain games and won't play RDR2 probably due to lack of instruction sets. The 1090T has served me very well for far longer than I ever imagined would be possible. My system upgrades over the years saw 3 different gfx cards, switch from hhd to ssd and doubled memory but the 1090T remained constantly strong and just kept on going!
Thats some serious longevity what a cracking cpu
Now that you have the board & RAM, any plans on grabbing say a FX 6100/6350 to compare it to what came after, then round things off with Ryzen with like a Ryzen 5 1600 to have a comparison of the 6 core cpus over the sockets (AM2+/AM3 -> AM3+ -> AM4)
Awesome idea
I still use a phenom 1090t in 2024, I use it for office, browsing and even played Jedi Fallen Order last month ... with a cpu 14 years old ... .Imagine a cpu of 1996 with a game in 2010.
The point is: the development in chip production isn't the same than it was 20 years ago, but the marketing of the companies is far better. They want you to buy products you don't need.
Unfortunately they lock you out of newer games, because they implement the usage of ssse3 recently. So even it's still fine for me, I going to change it to an "rather new" used ryzen 2600 and probably go the next decade with it.
Don't believe the marketing gangsters.
I used to run a 965 BE with a GTX 260 216 and I ran a lot of games like a champ. Granted, I was running at some like 1280 x 1024 or something like that but this was 2009-12 and a lot of people didn’t even have 1080p monitors yet.
There is nothing for "granted", low res gameplay strangles the cpu not the gpu.
We have a Phenom X3 PC at work, as one of the gifted ones. Decided to make a retro gaming system out of it, but haven't tried unlocking the fourth core yet 🤭
Awesome, the triple core chips were also so interesting to me
@@RandomGaminginHD I can try to give some feedback, but for now we're busy cleaning and repairing some iMacs, very annoying task, 0\10 can't recommend
You are using the exactly same motherboard that I use nowadays. I'm planning to buy an FX 8300
I am still rocking my 1055t, crosshair 4, 12gb ram & a 1050ti. Its still does the job fine. :D
it seems to do well if overclocked
Great video!
Have a Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H (rev. 1.3) where I swapped the trusty Athlon X4 640 to the X6 1090T, and the 2*2GB to 2*4GB, paired with an XFX Radeon RX460 4GB silent gpu. Sadly don't have much time to find the limits, except the limits of the cpu cooler, that runs up pretty soon...
And I already have the next 2 gen as upgade, with mainboards (a FX-6350 and a Ryzen 3 1200)...😀
After this video I'm not so sure how much upgrade/diffence the upgrades will make.
I loved these CPUs so much, that I named my gaming channel after them :D
Loved mine. Got it to 5Ghz when new but voltage creep/damage bought it down to 4.8 in the end. Ran it with 5870/5870/5970 for a while before changing to Sandy Bridge for the higher IPC performance. Was a beast with a single GPU but kneecapped the quadfire setup.
I had a phenom x4 840t until about 2016/2017 it was great. I miss that thing
I had an Acer machine with a 1035T at the time, and it was a beast for the price (around £400 for the whole machine which included a blu-ray drive too). Eventually I transplanted the system into a bigger case with a new power supply and GPU and it served me well for a few years before upgrading to a 6th gen i5.
The phenom 1090t was the CPU my wife used for her main PC for the best part of nine years. Once I was able to upgrade, I was then able to loan her my 5820k build, and more recently found a 6950x to drop in for cheap enough to roll the die on it (it was listed as a customer return).
For her sensibilities, I feel like she can get on with a mini itx build, if I'm doing it for her.
I can't remember which Phenom II I had, but that with my GT 560 was my first real desktop from best buy, fast forward to today been saving for three years and working during the Pandemic as a Cashier, Customer Service. Finally building my long overdue ASUS RoG Strix 3080Ti LC, 32GB DDR4 3800 CL14, and a 5800x3D. Woohoo! Been a journey. 😅 🖥️
Good memories of that Phenom II introducing me to PC gaming as a whole, Star wars Republic Commando, F 3, Fallout New Vegas, Minecraft, Civ 4.