Is Nintendo Losing Their Creativity?

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @Tenacityfromtheglass
    @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому +7

    Seems like saying even the most remotely negative thing about Nintendo results in the absolute bottom rungs of society flooding my channel to leave the dumbest comments imaginable. Ah, what the hell, it's engagement either way 😂

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 Місяць тому +5

      Literally nobody is getting mad at you, just some people offering counter-arguments.
      Edit: If you view these as negative, don't. We gotta build each other up some how.

    • @Alanis1337
      @Alanis1337 29 днів тому

      @Tenacityfromtheglass id like to get your opinion on the mario mandate. Do you feel its real or not?

    • @erikmclennan3934
      @erikmclennan3934 29 днів тому +1

      I've been enjoying your videos but why keep coming back to a creator who wants to insult me? You're right, it's engagement, so be appreciative.
      Tears of the kingdom is one of the most creative games out there...that's like saying Minecraft isn't creative.

    • @saintlugia
      @saintlugia 10 днів тому +1

      This video aged poorly given that the nintendo playtest game is being worked on as we speak

  • @sandman8920
    @sandman8920 Місяць тому +25

    Miyamoto is semi retired. Probably explains it.

    • @Chronoflation
      @Chronoflation Місяць тому +8

      Their game developer president and CEO died and was replaced with an accountant. I feel like that alone should explain all the differences

  • @JamieJonesanimator
    @JamieJonesanimator Місяць тому +28

    You do loads more in Echoes of Wisdom than "summon furniture" it is easily one of the most creative and risk taking titles in years. Your complete disregard for it and just wanting a remake of Oracle of Seasons/Ages without probabaly every trying it is the exact reason developers mainly play it safe.
    "I haven't seen Nintendo take any risks or try anything new."
    *Makes something like Ring Fit Adventure, Arms, Snipperclips, Echoes of Wisdom completely out of the box idea.*
    "But, I dont want that."
    Bruh..🤦‍♂️

    • @Immdumb
      @Immdumb Місяць тому +7

      He seems completely nostalgia blind tbh

  • @badlatency9979
    @badlatency9979 Місяць тому +30

    Yeah, they haven't been taking risks with their franchises...like a M rated Famicom Detective Club or bringing that franchise back from the Famicom era, or creating whole new standards in RPGs and storytelling with the Xenoblade series, or bringing back Metroid Dread as a project from the DS era, vastly expanding the scope of Fire Emblem games, taking risks on new IPs like Astral Chain and Snipperclips, making a full modern remake of the niche Another Code games, wildly changed the 2D Mario formula with Wonder, they haven't done any of that and are just creatively bankrupt.

    • @cshothead5173
      @cshothead5173 Місяць тому +16

      fr what are these people smoking, I swear so many other companies are actually struggling with creativity, but out of all the flaws Nintendo has as a company and their business decisions, creativity definitely isn't one. (Also I saw a comment calling Splatoon "crazy nonsense" which is INSANE, that is a perfect example of creativity)

    • @badlatency9979
      @badlatency9979 Місяць тому +8

      @cshothead5173 yeah, that's nuts. Splatoon is basically the best multiplayer shooter in generations.

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Місяць тому +1

      Fire Emblem Awakening was already a risk being taken because if that game bombed then the series would’ve been shelved, Advance Wars Reboot Camp was another risk too but the hype for it was ruined by delays, and the 3D graphics didn’t really sit well with everyone compared to the timeless 2D pixel GBA graphics.

    • @JamieJonesanimator
      @JamieJonesanimator Місяць тому +3

      @badlatency9979 the crazy thing is the guy making the video even mentions Ring Fit Adventure, Snipperclips ect.. but then says it's not creative because he's not interested in it, as if creativity only boils down to what he is personally interested in and nothing else. Guy mentions Chibi Robot about a million times.. my guy just play that game then lool.

    • @craigsideleau4800
      @craigsideleau4800 Місяць тому +4

      At long last we've seen a proper return to form when it comes to Mario RPGs during the later Switch era. In my opinion a lot of Nintendo's big flag ship IPs such as, Zelda, Mario, Kirby, etc. have evolved (though TOTK has received mixed/polarizing reception from fans) over the entirety of the Switch generation. The only franchise from Nintendo that has really stagnated during this time to me, is Pokemon and the Mario sports titles feeling lackluster and bare bones when it comes to content. I'm not saying that the whole switch era has been completely perfect, but I feel things are much better now then what they were say back in 2015-2016.

  • @Lennonade02
    @Lennonade02 Місяць тому +10

    And then Nintendo made a clock

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому +1

      @@Lennonade02 hopefully they don't put a patent on time or else we're all screwed

    • @Lennonade02
      @Lennonade02 Місяць тому

      @@Tenacityfromtheglass gonna sue Sony for making clocks now

  • @shinnok5337
    @shinnok5337 Місяць тому +16

    The short answer I feel is they became completely corporate after Iwata died; what I mean is that he was a developer and put gameplay and fun first before anything else, but this new president is a businessman first and foremost and is putting making money at the cheapest and safest way possible first, even if creativity suffers for it

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому +3

      @shinnok5337 completely agree. We didn't just lose Iwata, We lost a gamer.

    • @spear1504
      @spear1504 Місяць тому

      Whenever creators or developers move on or retired. They sometimes work somewhere else and form own studio after parents gaming studios shutdown by big companies sometimes or become greedy and collapse with their own self, but all I’m saying, is that all good gaming studios, will always come to the ends.

  • @IntegerOfDoom
    @IntegerOfDoom Місяць тому +15

    What? They have been more creative than ever when it comes to litigation.

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому +2

      @@IntegerOfDoom can't even play catch with my kid because Nintendo has a patent on throwing a ball 😂

    • @olliepoplol5894
      @olliepoplol5894 Місяць тому +1

      Lmao! Can’t wait for them to sue Spirit Halloween for the Italian Plumber outfits 😭

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому +2

      @olliepoplol5894 I was literally there yesterday with my 4 year old and she wants to be princess peach.

    • @Immdumb
      @Immdumb Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Tenacityfromtheglass might wanna get a layer soon dude

    • @IntegerOfDoom
      @IntegerOfDoom Місяць тому

      @@Tenacityfromtheglass Careful about breeding. Nintendo has a patent on that.

  • @wubbers662
    @wubbers662 Місяць тому +5

    1. Nobody is buying a console for Chibi Robo, be real (even if it is good). The gameplay style of Animal Crossing is more appealing to everyone, while Chibi Robo, like Snipperclips, is more niche in gameplay (+ loud minority that may have never played the games)
    2. People love Astral Chain.
    3. You had me until 7:09 You start the video showing how much hate Nintendo gets, but then you go here.

  • @IMMORTICALITY
    @IMMORTICALITY Місяць тому +7

    I’ll say this always, Nintendo was at their peak creativity in the GameCube era.

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Місяць тому

      I miss experimental Nintendo

    • @Guy-cb1oh
      @Guy-cb1oh Місяць тому

      And yet the GC flopped
      ..

    • @Rediscool9
      @Rediscool9 Місяць тому +1

      @@brandonwilliams6119 No, you don’t, you miss your IDEA of what experimental Nintendo was

    • @jamesrgamesoffical
      @jamesrgamesoffical Місяць тому

      And wii u as well

  • @wutadam
    @wutadam Місяць тому +3

    0:21 You're not finding any shortage of people who say "Nintendo sucks" because you searched "Nintendo sucks."

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому

      @@wutadam yes, it's called search results. If you search "starfield is a masterpiece" for example, you would find that there is a shortage of people who think starfield is a masterpiece despite how much you may or may not enjoy the game.

    • @wutadam
      @wutadam Місяць тому +2

      @@Tenacityfromtheglass My point exactly. You can't base a general consensus based off of a search query that favors a specific opinion.

    • @2Y-3D
      @2Y-3D Місяць тому

      He means there are people who don't like modern nintendo, and there are people who enjoy it it can be said the same with disney it just depends on personal opinions ​@wutadam

  • @mariogamefreak1
    @mariogamefreak1 Місяць тому +1

    Actually Animal Crossing started on the N64 but it was only released on the N64 in Japan.

  • @DestoDoodles4u
    @DestoDoodles4u Місяць тому +3

    Depends. Mario is more creative then its ever been right now! Brothership,wonder, movie etc!!

  • @UsingGorillaLogic
    @UsingGorillaLogic Місяць тому +5

    Arms is Nintendos treasure planet they intentionally sandbagged it to kill the series before it could succeed to force the dev back into the Mario Kart mines.

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Місяць тому

      Splatoon 2 coming out the same year didn’t help much either, 2017 was kinda stacked

  • @sandovse
    @sandovse Місяць тому +3

    I know what you mean, but Nintendo switch did it better.
    Better Mario, better zelds, better mario kart, better animal crossing, better pikmin.

    • @M64bros
      @M64bros Місяць тому +1

      Exactly!

  • @M64bros
    @M64bros Місяць тому +2

    As Someone that grew up in the 3DS and the Wii U era I know an absolute fact not everything was beautiful and pretty during that time and Nintendo still has its charm today, They have theme parks, upcoming movies, games that have become successful and many more.
    Nintendo doesn't really suck that much, but the problem is it could be our faults unfortunately

  • @Oll2-g3j
    @Oll2-g3j Місяць тому +6

    No offense, but I completely disagree I think Mario Odyssey captured mechanic is probably one of the most unique things I’ve seen from gaming having the ability to possess stuff in a platform is pretty I think echoes of wisdom has a really cool building mechanic that’s done unique way way and I think Nintendo combining the Fitness and RPG genre with Ring fit adventure was really cool. Also, you kinda have to think of The game industry as a whole right now lots of games are becoming boring and generic, and Nintendo is still holding on to that creativity. I think if you look at the basic mechanics of every modern Nintendo game, you can see a little bit of that charm. Also, Mario wonder dude that changed the 2-D platformer forever and made Mario games more adventurous again good video, but I disagree with the premise

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому

      @Oll2-g3j It's all just opinions at the end of the day. Mario Odyssey is an amazing game. A masterpiece even, but I feel like the capture mechanic was too similar to kirby's copy ability, where as Mario galaxy was unlike anything I've ever seen in a mario game. Nintendo was straight up wild back then!

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 Місяць тому +1

      @@Tenacityfromtheglass To be fair though, Galaxy didn't do too much new new, but it tried a grander scale and fitting theme idea that worked really well.

  • @noterespondi3343
    @noterespondi3343 Місяць тому +4

    6:23 Astral Chain

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому +1

      @noterespondi3343 Astral chain is a third party exclusive made by platinum games. Even if Nintendo bought the ip, it doesn't make it a first party Nintendo game.

    • @noterespondi3343
      @noterespondi3343 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@TenacityfromtheglassBut in the video it seems that you consider SnipperClips, Chibi Robo and Eternal Darkness Nintendo IPs, all of them were developed by a third party studio and they are still Nintendo IPs 🤔

    • @Xenowolf8
      @Xenowolf8 Місяць тому

      ⁠@@Tenacityfromtheglass 1. Nintendo has fully owned Astral Chain since 2021
      2. First Party or not it’s still a Nintendo IP either way.

  • @pastapower69
    @pastapower69 Місяць тому +7

    how is making a brand new 2d zelda less creative than remaking the oracle games. 😭

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому

      @pastapower69 because Zelda would get her own dedicated bigger budget game rather than a smaller project that re-uses assets from links Awakening remake. But Nintendo wouldn't do that because they're too risk averse.

    • @artagle_14
      @artagle_14 Місяць тому

      @@TenacityfromtheglassI can see this as a “New” era for Zelda like how the “New” Super Mario Bros era was back then

  • @cyndawu1940
    @cyndawu1940 Місяць тому +4

    Before I voice my criticism on modern Nintendo games, I do want to point out that Japan's economy is really bad right now, and companies need to do what they can to jack up the price and be financially safe with games. Sad but understandable strategy. But man, I do miss the period of time where Nintendo keep making amazing innovative games. People keep shitting on the Wii U, but it unironically has more exclusive games than the PS5 exclusives. And the 3DS was incredibly innovative with games, such as A Link Between Worlds, Streetpass, Animal Crossing New Leaf, Bravely Default, SMT 4, Persona Q, Kid Icarus Uprising.
    Nintendo switch games have very good games, but the majority of games just follow the same ideas from previous game, Breath of the Wild is technically from the Wii U creative era, an era where they were still trying to be creative. Splatoon 2 was amazing but Splatoon 3 gameplay wise is just more splatoon2. I do love the constant new music and unique splatfests. Kirby just went from Robobot, their most innovative 2D Kirby game, to piss easy unoriginal Kirby Star Allies. And the biggest disapointment is Pokemon mainline games and the lack of GOOD Pokemon spinoff games. To give Nintendo some credit, I like what they did with oragami king, fire emblem three house, Kirby Forgotten Land, Ring Fit, Metroid Dread, and the huge marketing push for newer IPs like Splatoon/Pikmin.
    But yeah I do miss the 3DS era and the Gamecube era, where there is a lot more innovative games. It just sucks that the Japan economy is so bad that they think they have to play it safe. Pokemon has no excuse though

    • @mek2472
      @mek2472 Місяць тому

      Honestly. I feel like they should keep pushing on releasing new ips or underutilized IPs cuz it’s obvious they are having a better time doing it. Ips like pikmin, earthbound(if itoi wants to make another mother game cuz HE is the only one who can write the mother series for me. I love the passion he puts into the games and it’s evident that it wouldn’t be the same without them), kid ircaus(THIS SERIES HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL), and metorid(it’s obvious that this is the series that doesn’t sell well but Nintendo puts PASSION into this series which is why I’m happy they keep on making metorid games although it’s not consistent)
      I feel like they are still creative just less of the gimmicky type of creative i adored during the wii u era(could be nostalgia since i was a kid during the wii u era) i feel like nintendo shouldn’t stray away from using some of the ideas they had during the wii u era but it’s clear they are abit embarrassed by it(not to the point they don’t rerelease wii u games)
      I feel like it’s evident they had to do more unique things with the 3ds cuz of the sales and because of it being a sequel to a console causing potential consumers to be suspicious of it.
      I may not like pokemon this era but i will say pokemon was atleast innovative during the last 2 games which I can’t say for the series during the ds and (atleast early 3ds) era. I love the 3ds pokemon games and I’m actually playing them this year for the first time and it’s been a blast after playing those horribly made games.

  • @Switchbored
    @Switchbored Місяць тому +1

    I get some of your points in this video byt Im not sure saying negatively that Nintendo released Totk as more Zelda botw and then go on to make a point and say that nintendo should create things you like with a new spin on it as a great example of your argument.
    Totk is literally Botw with a new spin. I think theres a few contradictory statements within this video

  • @sulimanbah9546
    @sulimanbah9546 Місяць тому

    Nintendo is to videogames as Apple is to mobile phones
    the Gestapho of entertainment, ristricting people with a smile.

  • @brandonwilliams6119
    @brandonwilliams6119 Місяць тому +1

    I love your voice you sound so nonchalant, the way you talk really makes the video fun to watch

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому +1

      @brandonwilliams6119 thank you so much. I haven't gotten a lot of feedback on things like voice or sound quality. I tend to hate my own voice so I'm glad to hear it's okay enough for youtube.

  • @keeganmcfarland7507
    @keeganmcfarland7507 Місяць тому +1

    Is Nintendo losing their creativity?
    Yes and no.
    God, I hope Nintendo decides to start taking risks and make new and original IP games for the next-gen Nintendo console.

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому

      I think they will. They kinda leaned on the novelty of the switch being handheld, and that just won't be possible with the successor.

    • @keeganmcfarland7507
      @keeganmcfarland7507 Місяць тому

      @@Tenacityfromtheglass You mean Nintendo will start taking risks and make new and original IP games?

    • @saintlugia
      @saintlugia 10 днів тому

      Dude the playtest game was announced when you wrote this comment, it's a new ip

  • @Xenowolf8
    @Xenowolf8 Місяць тому +3

    6:20, ahem ASTRAL CHAIN!!!!!!

  • @Rediscool9
    @Rediscool9 Місяць тому +8

    It’s videos like these that really make me hate GameCube millennials

    • @Chronoflation
      @Chronoflation Місяць тому

      It's reactions like this that make me hate Switch-tards who can't even acknowledge their favorite console maker has seriously downgraded their approach to game dev

    • @sandovse
      @sandovse Місяць тому +2

      He is completely wrong in this one.

  • @plantb0y
    @plantb0y Місяць тому +1

    The Kirby Superstar Save Point theme is awesome❤

  • @real_Furryratchet
    @real_Furryratchet Місяць тому

    I think it is because of Iwata. He was a big president and a huge role in pushing Nintendo.
    Rest in Peace

  • @Zenith8896
    @Zenith8896 Місяць тому +4

    Was Nintendo a better ran company when it had there late great CEO Satoru Iwata?

    • @therealjaystone2344
      @therealjaystone2344 Місяць тому

      He was a meh businessman

    • @Yoshizuyuner
      @Yoshizuyuner Місяць тому +1

      dude made the wiiu enough said to that shit show online lmfao

    • @Squidveemo
      @Squidveemo Місяць тому

      @@therealjaystone2344 If you really think that, I implore you to watch Masahiro Sakurai's last video on the man and still think the same way after that.

  • @3dsfan2002
    @3dsfan2002 Місяць тому +1

    Many toxic fans say 3ds/wii u era was devoid of creativity and yet never take a look at most 9th gen offerings at least Mario in the 3ds/wii u era were polished games even the less appreciated ones/ short ones

    • @Rediscool9
      @Rediscool9 Місяць тому

      What do you mean by “most 9th gen offerings”?

    • @3dsfan2002
      @3dsfan2002 Місяць тому

      @@Rediscool9 as in ps5 and Xbox series x and some more of the recent Nintendo sports games

  • @rossruss6901
    @rossruss6901 Місяць тому +6

    The real reason Nintendo feels less creativity now is more of an overcorrection from the massive failure of the Wii U. So they played most of the gen playing it safe with a lot of Mario and Zelda titles. As for their new IPs not being as awe-inspiring, I think that comes down to their talent not being nearly as outside-the-box thinking as some of their old guys with few exceptions like the Splatoon makers. Hopefully Switch 2 gives these game creators more room to show their stuff.

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Місяць тому +2

      Splatoon, a series that debuted on the Wii U is very lucky to survive and live past it

  • @NegaLimbo
    @NegaLimbo Місяць тому +1

    You're absolutely right. It really does suck.

  • @Evixyn
    @Evixyn Місяць тому

    The newest president of Nintendo is business orientated and prioritize profit over the creative fun that classic Nintendo had. Different leader ship, as classic Nintendo was more about the company promoting fun as they where making the products if they where a child who would had played those titles, while current day Nintendo is a suite who only sees maximum profit amongst everything else.

  • @stuartcarter4139
    @stuartcarter4139 Місяць тому +5

    Honestly I think splatoon is classic nintendo, they're just a little bit dumb with online lol

    • @Squidveemo
      @Squidveemo Місяць тому +1

      At this point even that last part is classic Nintendo lol

  • @OscarsBadFurDay
    @OscarsBadFurDay 16 днів тому

    There business philosophy has changed dramatically since the switch has been around which explains them playing it safe.
    It changed when Iwata died.

  • @IzzyItachi
    @IzzyItachi Місяць тому

    9:06 I’m kind of shocked this hasn’t already happened tbh.

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому

      Nintendo is probably gonna strike my channel and steal my prediction

  • @mronewheeler
    @mronewheeler 15 днів тому

    I haven't played nearly enough games to have an informed opinion here but I think Nintendo is being somewhat more safe than they used to. TotK is an interesting study because it added mechanics that no one would expect from a Zelda game but at the same time it was 90% just BotW again. They have also been doing re-releases of many Wii U games and remasters of old games which is definitely not creative. But they also made Mario Wonder which was a very creative 2D Mario.
    In the end it's a matter of opinion, largely informed by what games you've played before. Everything in BotW was new to me but it was also my first open-world game. So I think we should respect each others opinions and be nice to each other even if we disagree. There is no right or wrong here, it's all just different perspectives.

  • @Yipper64
    @Yipper64 Місяць тому

    I think part of it is the way this generation has gone on longer than usual.
    The pattern ive personally noticed with nintendo consoles is that the console comes out with some kind of gimmick, then all the mainline games have a new title that at least acknowledges it, if not fully embraces it. Usually doing something new and innovative. But as it goes on, the gimmicks become less of a focus and you get sequels to those titles that are more traditional, plus occasional spinoffs.
    6:26 not this generation but if you dont count the WiiU, Splatoon clearly fits.
    6:40 arms came out at that weird time when nintendo thought that live service games where worth a try. Arms unfortunately was one of those. I think if Arms had come out with all of its content then people would think its better than it is. I do have a lot of fond memories with the game but it is far from my top 10.
    9:49 They are similar but ultrahand makes the game entirely different, if nothing else due to how you can travel around.
    10:50 from what I hear the rumor for the next console is the USB C port up top; I.E. this will be an accessory focused console. I bet nintendo is going to get really wacky with this next console, potentially having peripherals for specific games, which only work with that game. Expensive gimmick? Yes. But fun? Also yes.

  • @real_Furryratchet
    @real_Furryratchet Місяць тому +2

    There are contradictions here... like a lot

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому

      @@real_Furryratchet examples?

    • @real_Furryratchet
      @real_Furryratchet Місяць тому +1

      @@Tenacityfromtheglass Like you said you want Zelda WW and Zelda TP for Switch but also hate it that Nintendo re sells their games for other consoles : /

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому

      @@real_Furryratchet at full price. I don't like it when they re-sell them at full price.

    • @real_Furryratchet
      @real_Furryratchet Місяць тому +2

      @@Tenacityfromtheglass Oh right. But SKyward Sword for instance is full price too because they also had to change the controlls

  • @IMMORTICALITY
    @IMMORTICALITY Місяць тому +1

    Also back then they cared and weren’t all about being soulless cash grabbers.

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому

      @@IMMORTICALITY and the irony is that they'd make more money if all their legacy games were available for purchase on their platform

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 Місяць тому

      Problem is that nobody showed up.
      F-Zero and Star Fox for example saw their series get lower and lower sales with each new entry (F-Zero more rapidly and drastically).

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Місяць тому

      @@wubbers662 Miyamoto said that he runout of ideas for both.

  • @PuffyPrime
    @PuffyPrime Місяць тому +1

    If you think it's bad now, just wait until Miyamoto retires

    • @saintlugia
      @saintlugia 10 днів тому

      Most new nintendo ip weren't created by miyamoto
      Splatoon
      Xenoblade
      3d zelda since wind waker
      Arms

  • @DBANZZ_m
    @DBANZZ_m Місяць тому +4

    The ideas aren’t getting worse. Ur just getting older

    • @mek2472
      @mek2472 Місяць тому +1

      Best way to explain gamers now. They are too scared to be “old” and get called out for their tastes being different from how they were 10 years ago and it really shows with these types of video. They were good in the old era and still good now. Just not as a company anymore

  • @hass556
    @hass556 Місяць тому +2

    You just looking to hate Nintendo and are trying to find excuses for it. That’s why your video is full of contradictions.

  • @ItIsWhatItIs-53376
    @ItIsWhatItIs-53376 Місяць тому +2

    Arms is actually good, but agree with the rest😂

  • @Goolix_Aero
    @Goolix_Aero Місяць тому +1

    I don't completely agree, but I do think we really need exciting new IPs. Nearly all the IPs they've created in the last 15 years or so have been either multiplayer focused or fitness games or tiny eShop games, which is fine, but where are the daring, ambitious new single-player experiences with entirely new ideas that go on to become truly iconic series? The last big single-player IP was what, Xenoblade? And even that is really an extension of Xenogears and Xenosaga.

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 Місяць тому

      What about Astral Chain?

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Місяць тому

      @@wubbers662 That was made by Platinum Games, Nintendo doesn't own Platinum.

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 Місяць тому

      @@orangeslash1667 Nintendo funded it like with Chibi Robo, which they didn't make either technically, just funded.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Місяць тому

      @@wubbers662 Also Xenoblade was created by Monolith Soft, which was founded by former SquareSoft staff.
      In other words all the ambitious single player games that Nintendo was involved with, weren't even made by Nintendo in house.
      What to know why Nintendo makes multiplayer games??? New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe, Splatoon 2, and Nintendo Switch Sports are some of the best selling games on Switch.
      Astral Chain was only able to sell 1.33 million.
      Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition was only able to sell 1.88 million.

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 Місяць тому

      @@orangeslash1667 Nintendo bought them in 2007. Xenoblade was made in 2010.
      And you can do this with any era for Nintendo. F-Zero X sold 1.5 million copies, while Super Mario 64 sold 11 million copies.
      Chibi Robo sold 200k copies, while Melee sold 7.5 million copies.
      Punch-Out!! Wii sold 1.2 million copies, while Wii Sports Resort sold 33 million copies.
      Sin & Punishment Star Successor sold 600k copies, while Mario Kart Wii sold 37 million copies.
      Niche games in niche genres (or outright niche games), will not sell well. They end of having very small and loud fanbases, but it'll only be them and a few others that'll purchase said games.
      That's how Nintendo rolls though. They make games in series that sell like hotcakes, to fund the nicher games development. We just saw this with Famicom Detective Club: The Smiling Man, their first in-house M rated game, a month and a half ago.

  • @realavt
    @realavt 19 днів тому

    Animal Crossing and Paper Mario started on Nintendo 64.

  • @Ultrikadrawz
    @Ultrikadrawz Місяць тому

    1:10 Introducing Pokemon Scarlet and Violet on release

  • @jamesrgamesoffical
    @jamesrgamesoffical Місяць тому

    BTW snipperclips wasn't developed by nintendo, just published

    • @3dsfan2002
      @3dsfan2002 Місяць тому

      @@jamesrgamesoffical never mind let’s just forget this happened

  • @hyperturbofox17
    @hyperturbofox17 Місяць тому

    Nintendo was GOATED during the GC/GBA to Wii U/3DS Era.

    • @Rediscool9
      @Rediscool9 Місяць тому +1

      “Nintendo was GOATED during the Wii U/3DS Era”
      No. No they were not.

    • @M64bros
      @M64bros Місяць тому

      ​@@Rediscool9Finally a real person that knows the truth

  • @Shinjiduo
    @Shinjiduo 24 дні тому

    So you are blaming Nintendo for doing remake and remasters with games that most were developed before modern standardization took hold of console hardware architecture? Moreover as that bin of DVDs for 1$ that remains at Walmart to this day can attest to; absence makes the heart grow fonder. Keeping game eternally available seems like a good idea, but in actual practice no one values anything that is too available. If all of Nintendo's backlog stayed eternally available going back to the Color TV-Game no one would be interested in playing them.

  • @coltonmahony2685
    @coltonmahony2685 Місяць тому

    Also, what happened to things like streetpass, miiverse, and themes? We need stuff like that!

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому

      @@coltonmahony2685 I miss the game previews on the 3ds home screen that play a little jingle when you'd stop on the game icon.

  • @Shinjiduo
    @Shinjiduo 24 дні тому

    You recognize Nintendo got absolutely creamed with the Gamecube right? Nintendo gets punished for standing too far outside the lines. With the N64 Nintendo went against the grain by going with cartridges, fact is games like Ocarina of Time would not be able to run on CD due to data transfer constraints, but Nintendo got massacred by the OG Sony PS for that decision.
    The Gamecube then comes along and chooses to do Mini-DVD disc which went against the grain of the industry making "multi-media devices" and making a pure console. The got creamed by the PS2 because the console itself looked too childish, Mario is played out, "Celda," Chibi Robo who? not to mention the complete ignoring of Metroid Prime and Eternal Darkness by the "mature" gaming base then.
    Fact is Nintendo is knows it has to stay in a range of acceptability in order to be successful. Every so often you will see a Emio or a Recollection: Another Code but, Nintendo is a business and failing at sales just to prove you are creative is beyond arrogant. Lastly BOTW / TOTK is the innovation on Classic Zelda, never forget the real OG was TLOZ (1986) not OOT (1998).

  • @Mymy_64
    @Mymy_64 Місяць тому

    Yes and no. While Nintendo doesn't take as many risk as the Gamecube, A lot of their games do at least to do at least try be something different within their series. BOTW is the first open-World Zelda, Mario Odyssey is the first sandbox style since Sunshine in 2002, Ultimate brought every character back and went as far as getting Steve and Sora. It's just this era of Nintendo is focus more on expanding their brand beyond Video games.

    • @tex8939
      @tex8939 Місяць тому

      The original Zelda was actually open world though, you can explore almost all of Hyrule at your own pace. The series threw away that design when A Link To The Past brought dungeon order.

  • @HighLogs_da_realist420
    @HighLogs_da_realist420 Місяць тому +6

    Honestly, I think it's because their mindset has changed from " Unique gameplay first, then what character fits it best." To "What will the next Mario or Zelda be?" And because of that, I believe it stifles the creativity because we're constantly looking at the past.

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому +1

      @HighLogs_da_realist420 well said. Kinda feels like the central gimmick around their games this gen was just "hey, look, it's a console like experience on the go" and unique gameplay second. I do hope they surprise us, though, because as much shit as I give them, their still better options than Sony or Xbox in my opinion.

    • @HighLogs_da_realist420
      @HighLogs_da_realist420 Місяць тому

      @@Tenacityfromtheglass Agreed.

    • @LG555
      @LG555 Місяць тому +1

      There has always been a team, that specifically makes Mario or Zelda. But there are also teams that make some of the more zany stuff like Ring Fit, Labo or 1-2 Switch.

  • @Chronoflation
    @Chronoflation Місяць тому

    One thing to note is that, while yes, Nintendo is only making games for 1 console now, they have not actually produced nearly as many games on the Switch as their other consoles at the same relative time as other home consoles alone. Even the Wii U got more new games made for it for each year it was alive than the Switch did for it's equivalent first 4 years. The Switch only feels like a lot because so many people skipped the Wii U and the ports from that console and the occasional remaster effectively padded out the Switch's library. The Switch is also home to some of the worst entries for many of its keynote franchises. Animal Crossing has some great features with building out your island, but the overall content is far less than New Leaf or City Folk. Smash Ultimate was missing a lot of single player modes at launch and still isn't as comprehensive as some past games despite the large new "story" mode that has less variety than other story modes because it's just battles, all the Mario Sports games are their worst or second worst iterations, Super Mario Party was barely an improvement from 10 and the content in it and Superstars was far less than past games, even for the Scale of BotW and TotK, they both feel very empty with little valuable content for their size compared to the depth of puzzles in prior games and the relatively consistent delivery of missions, combat challenges, and unlockables. Mario Odyssey did well overall, for the most part, but so many of the new entries just don't compare. Even the spin offs. Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity has far less content than the pre-DLC original from Wii U (though it's still a lot because it's a Warriors game, just not thousand of hours worth like the original, losing basically all the side content modes).
    Outside of Pikmin 4, which is a more recent game, I challenge anyone to find an entry in a series that hasn't, in some way, had less content than average for the series, especially from the first 4 years of the consoles life

    • @Squidveemo
      @Squidveemo Місяць тому

      This is just a factually incorrect statement, Nintendo has put out like twice the amount of games per year compared to Wii U, with this year being the exception, since their next system is releasing next year.

    • @Chronoflation
      @Chronoflation Місяць тому

      @@Squidveemo if you look back at solely new releases and remove the rereleased from Wii U, then you'll find that to not be the case and the Switch was on par, at best, for the same active years. Not saying the on par releases weren't overall better, they were certainly more streamlined, but I also think Nintendo did some of their worst work on the Wii U. I'm just comparing Wii U in terms of output. It certainly is nowhere near Wii U + 3DS levels of output despite going down to 1 console. Though it did improve around 2021, after 3DS development fully ended, but it still doesn't match the peak of releases they had when producing for 2 consoles. That's just an argument of quantity though. Still, quality, they're streamlined and modernized in a lot of ways, but that isn't all for the better. Like with Mario Party games just plain having many less boards than they used to, for example

    • @saintlugia
      @saintlugia 10 днів тому

      Splatoon?
      Xenoblade?
      Fire emblem three houses?
      Smash ultimate?
      Bayonetta 3?

    • @Chronoflation
      @Chronoflation 9 днів тому

      @@saintlugia 3 houses both had more and less. The monetary stuff was new, but it dropped the dungeon crawling from Echoes, the fort building from Fates, and didn't have nearly as many chapters as Awakening did with all its paralogues, though it was more ambitious with its story, mostly delivering but somewhat just shy of greatness for a few of the routes. Xenoblade 2 also had much less content than 1 or X did at launch. It got more with updates, but the others had far more numerous quests and stuff pre updates. Smash also had more characters but had far less single player content. They basically just took themed battled and replaced the single player with that. Both Melee and Brawl outshined it. Though I will take the multi-character battles over Smash Tour any day. It also removed custom moves and Smash Run though, and those are tremendous losses. So everyone came back, but at a cost.
      That said, notice all 3 of those games are made by studios Nintendo owns or partners with, they aren't actually Nintendo's main studios. Though I think of the sports games a lot when I think of this and those aren't either, so that really isn't an argument on my side.
      Splatoon 2 I will give you, that one did have more at launch that Splatoon 1 had at launch. I still prefer Miiverse of the in-game only drawing mechanic, but yes, I give Splatoon 2 a clean win over Splatoon 1, so that's a good pick

    • @Chronoflation
      @Chronoflation 9 днів тому

      @@Squidveemo they put out less games than Wii U + 3DS until around 2021

  • @Yoshizuyuner
    @Yoshizuyuner Місяць тому

    fun quality games are more needed than having to reinvent the wheel so many times that alot them wont make at hit at all, creativity dose not = to a better game at all

  • @olgagachaphoenix9130
    @olgagachaphoenix9130 Місяць тому

    By looking at the thumbanil, it looks like it makes to moderns game like Arms and Ring fit look like bad games. Which is not entire true at all... Right? 😢

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому +1

      @olgagachaphoenix9130 I wanted to make it look like they were going into battle. I don't think they're bad games. I just look at past nintendo IP like animal Crossing, pikman, even splatoon as more ambitious.

    • @saintlugia
      @saintlugia 10 днів тому

      Arms is ambitious it just wasn't successful. They tried to simplify the fighting genre like they did the shooter genre, but arms didn't take off the way splatoon did.

  • @jenswieth7397
    @jenswieth7397 Місяць тому

    their issue is their shift to western design standards and the western "feel" of gaming. look at the pokemon designs of the last 2 games, could have been taken straight from deviantart. it all feels "fan-fictiony"

  • @therealjaystone2344
    @therealjaystone2344 Місяць тому

    Nintendo made too many innovations that they don’t have to many anymore innovations

  • @coltonmahony2685
    @coltonmahony2685 Місяць тому

    Everything that you said is 100% true and accurate. Its refreshing to see somebody with this point of view!

  • @Immdumb
    @Immdumb Місяць тому +2

    He does make skme good points. Mainly those points are about the remakes which everyone makes fun of. Although describing echos of wosdom as just summoning tables and shit is false. The point of being able to summon the objects you find in the world is so that you are able to do stuff anyway you want. This is how nintendo has been changing zelda on the switch. It feels like all you do is be nostalgia blind and pass your opinions off as facts. The difficulty in making a game like totk where everything works together so that the player has essentially infinite possibilities is insane but you just complain about it without trying to see the good in it. If you look for only reasons to hate something, of course you'll end up finding a lot of things to hate. How about just play the game and don't look for reasons to complain.

    • @Immdumb
      @Immdumb Місяць тому +1

      Lol, the only things he responds to or hearts are ones agreeing with him

    • @Immdumb
      @Immdumb Місяць тому +1

      Want to clarify in case he does reply. I don't love nintendo. I hate nintendo, but when people claim their opinion to be fact is something I hate more than nintendo. There are better videos on this topic that don't feel nit-picky or make fun of nintendo fans as much

  • @LornaIIa
    @LornaIIa Місяць тому

    Your voice sounds like the default male text to speech lol

  • @kennydarmawan13
    @kennydarmawan13 Місяць тому +1

    To me, Nintendo is an example of how being old-minded can be detrimental.
    Sure, this means Nintendo will ensure their games are as true as possible while not doing things like forced microtransactions or AI, but tthis also means they sometimes have no idea what the fans do want.
    Think of Nintendo as a respect guy. Sure, we respect Nintendo, but we ain't loving their choices all the time.

    • @Rediscool9
      @Rediscool9 Місяць тому +1

      Ah yes because the nostalgia blinded people like you are definitely not old-minded in the slightest. Hypocrites.

  • @RunnyElephant44
    @RunnyElephant44 Місяць тому

    Yes

  • @1MoreSonicRobot
    @1MoreSonicRobot Місяць тому +1

    I honestly think Nintendo is fairly generic. idk. I just don't find myself gravitating to their games recently. Doesn't help that most indies follow their example but with more flair.

    • @Tenacityfromtheglass
      @Tenacityfromtheglass  Місяць тому +1

      @1MoreSonicRobot you're right about the flair. it's the reason why I keep coming back to games like Hollow Knight for my 3rd playthrough and I haven't touched dread since launch

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Місяць тому

      @@Tenacityfromtheglass Indie games are made by smaller companies, thus less expectation.
      It's not just Nintendo, alot of big companies are ether greedy, too ambitious, or abandoning Old IP's.

  • @NEVETSGILBERT1233
    @NEVETSGILBERT1233 Місяць тому

    AHHHH no

  • @NoobsDeSroobs
    @NoobsDeSroobs Місяць тому +1

    Losing? No. It has been lost for decades, with somewhat of a reinvigoration by borrowing concepts in for example BotW and Galaxy.
    All they innovate in now is ways to shit on their fans.
    Edit: I forgot the squid game.

  • @saintlugia
    @saintlugia 10 днів тому

    6:20 Arms desrves more of a chance. I get that it wasn't as replayable as splatoon, but the series has potential it should comeback