I own the Chief Vintage from the "Why we won't sell Indians" video. Almost 4 years and over 24,000 miles later, the bike has been flawless. I've ridden it from Massachusetts to West Virginia and every state in between with no issues whatsoever .
@@ronnierushing700 Dont' mind at all. It was a gear position switch. The digital readout became slow when changing gears up or down. Also, the factory was concerned that it would show neutral when it was actually in gear. The dealer fixed mine under warranty before the factory knew it was a more widespread problem. I subsequently received the improved switch with the recall.
Harley equivalent !?!? Nah they don't have one, the Indian handles way better, brakes better, feels more comfortable to be on and thanks to excellent suspension tuning on the front and that Fox shock on the back it absolutely eats the Harley on the rougher roads and bumpy corners. Now I'm talking apples for apples, one touring bike against another, all of Harley's touring bikes have at best two and a half inches of rear suspension travel whilst the Indian has four and a half. As a long time Road King owner who has traversed Australia more than once, I can tell you that one ride on the Indian blew my mind. If you ride both and still buy a Harley, it's because you're buying into a brand, that's it, nothing more, there is no way your Harley is better.
@wooley: true. But if the dealer is a douche, why get the bike? I mean, some where a long the way, you'll probably need to take the bike to the dealer. I don't need that kind of stress. I ride a bike to de-stress.
@@deepsleep7822 My HD dealer was a douche like Most all of them! They just want to sell you the HD trash and then treat you like crap when something goes wrong under warranty!
I had a 16 Chief Darkhorse and loved it. I sold it in18 to get a chieftain darkhorse. The 19s started looking like harleys. Love my chieftain. The adjustable electric windshield is one reason I would never consider a Harley. Very useful.
I'm new to your channel and I already love it. Been riding for about 8 years now and I'm ready to switch to a touring bike. I was between the vintage and the road king. I like the way you explain your knowledge. OAN: I do love how you always read a verse before riding.
I've got an 18 dark horse. You are exactly right, I love the stripped down look. Not knocking Harley a bit but indian has it together on this bike. When I ride I dont want bags or extra frills in my way. Thanks for the vid and glad to see u have a better experience with an indian.....
Been debating on whether to ger a Harley or Indian Dark horse. From the reviews ive seen. The Indian has way better handling and riding comfort. As well as virtually no mechanical issues. Think I'll get the Dark Horse.
@@Iceman77772 I can honestly say that I don't have much time for a nice bike but anytime I regret buying it, all I have to do is ride it. No remorse here.
@@Iceman77772 I decided to get a Dark Horse this spring. I found one online in Detroit for the right price, so called the dealership and told them to hold it for me. Bought a one-way plane ticket from Utah, signed for it and rode it almost 2k miles homes. By the time I got home I'd already gotten more comments and people talking to me about it then the whole 2 years I rode a Harley lol. Harley's are good, but from where I'm sitting, the Dark Horse is better :)
I plan on getting a chief dark horse as my first bike. (Yes I'm batshit crazy and I'm proud of it) but when I first went into the dealer, I was looking for a scout. Guy actually recommended I try the chief out and I'm GLAD I did, the scout felt small to me when I was sitting on it but the chief felt like a damn glove man. And you're right, it really doesn't feel all that heavy when you're riding it.
only complaint i have of your vids is you use the same type of title. Don't buy, ect. it's kind of click bait to me , especially when as far as i know you have not ridden the bike that long. a first impressions i can see, but one short trip won't tell you everything. just my opinion. i do like that you tryout alot of bikes .
A few months ago I test rode a Chief Dark Horse. It does ride pretty smooth, and suspension is very nice and soft. The con for me: I'm 180cm long (5.9) and the shifter is too much forward. I'm used to heel-toe shifting on my Intruder, and that would be a great feature on this motorcycle. The current shifter would have felt much nicer if I would have longer legs or even bigger feet. My advice: If you like the looks and have the money, go for it!
I think the brown bags, seat and whips, would pop on there. Make it look like a spotted horse. 🤔🤔🤔 black bikes are everywhere. The Indian brown seats, really helps them separate themselves from the others.
@@jasonrobertson5526 Victory and Indian are both owned by Polaris making it the same company. Polaris ended their Victory line because Indian has an immortal name and there was no point in having two big v-twin company names.
Thank you for a good review. I own a 2020 Darkhorse Chief. I love it!!! Funny thing is that I was looking for a vmax because of your review. Nobody has one in Nashville. I drove the Darkhorse Chief one time, and purchased it a few days later.
I bought a new 2019 Indian Springfield this year... holy cow brother you wouldn't BELIEVE how many comments I get. I've never had dudes roll their windows down at red lights and ask me Where I got it/How much it costs/etc... Harleys are cool, but Indians turn heads more, and to be honest come with just as much muscle and even more tech straight from the factory.
The two buttons on the center console are... on the left heated handle grips (if installed) and the right is your lock/unlock button for the hard saddle bags if you buy them.
I have a chief vintage with a decatted, performance programmed, cammed stage 2. Fun, big and fast. I can make it perform, but dig the unique look and color. It is different and not an HD.
I rode that bike in Daytona on a test run. It's comparable to the Heritage Harley but sits lower. My cousin Eddie ended up blowing up the engine after he test rode it.
The Chief Dark Horse is my dream bike. The look of them, especially with beach bars and a spring seat, makes me want to throw down the money even though I know it's a bad idea with my limited experience. I love matte black, and I love Americana. This bike is absolutely both of those. I'm currently looking at a used Vulcan 900 so I can get used to bikes that are bigger and heavier than the little Rebel 450 that I've been riding. Once I have the experience though, a Chief Dark Horse will be mine.
I own a Vulcan so I maybe bias, however you can get all the bike you will ever need for less than $5,000 if you buy Nov-Feb a near meant condition 6+ year old Vulcan can be purchased as low as $3,500. The bikes are very low maintenance and can easily run 100,000 miles
Hey same here! I would prefer the Springfield Dark Horse but still, the Dark Horse line up are my dream bikes, they look so badass and I have heard nothing but great things about performance
Google up "old inc fiberglass fenders". I have a drifter fender on my vulcan 900 and it's a great platform till you're ready to move up. I can show you pics of what my 900 looks like with their fender, it's perfect
@@iamIncrediblehulk Even when I was on my V Star 1300 my wife's Shadow 750 felt like a scooter in comparison. Maybe if you started on a Shadow and never rode a bigger bike that would be all you want... maybe ;-P But after riding an Indian a Honda Shadow isn't even close; as long as you're willing to pay the difference of course. Notice I said WILLING to pay not can AFFORD to pay. I hate it when people think that just because someone is riding a smaller cheaper bike it's becasue of a financial limitation instead of what they person wants to ride. BTW I'm not an Indian, or any bike (owned Kawi, Honda, Yamaha, Victory, and Indian), snob. But they're not even close to the same league of bike.
The Chief Dark Horse certainly did come with bags & windscreen if so ordered. I had one, a 2016 & it was a great machine. It shared duty with my CVO Ultra which was, at the time, pushing 60k on the clock.
I love my 2016 darkhorse. I have put 20k miles on it in the past 3 years and it has been absolutely amazing. There are a few issues with it. But it doesn't bother me
@@pythonman8103 the speed sensor on the front wheel isn't protected very well and has had to be replaced twice due to small rocks hitting it when riding down gravel roads, the gear indicator switch gets clogged up with belt shavings and will show the wrong gear and can actually start in gear if your not careful, happened to me once lol (Indian has a recall with new designed switch I just have not done it yet), and the ABS will sometimes work and sometimes not work and has been like that for a long time.The heated grips are not very warm at all and are basically useless( this is probably my fault because I didn't install correctly or I might need to update the pcm). Stock oem battery SUCKS and is a hit or miss with how long it will last, I replaced it with a higher CCA battery and is a major difference in starting as well. Minor issues in my opinion but they are technically problems. I have about 30k miles on it now, still running strong.
Hey Sean. You had spoken about a verse that I cannot remember the number. Was from Matthew about if u do all your work for god he will always give you enough time and strength you need to get through. . I cant remember exactly. Could u help me remember the numbers. I had started working 2 jobs 2 months ago and have been feeling super overwhelmed and after u talked about that I heard it again from a coworker. And i think it's something i am suppose to pay attention to. Just wanna remember the verse better. Thank alot you guys. Keep em coming.
My O to 60 guestimate ...5.3 second. On a side note, I love the way that bike sounds; full, low octave purr is so cool. Yes, I get the loud thumper Harley deal, but this bike sounds like it has so much power, yet it’s not rattling you’re melon.
@2:31, those are usually the buttons to lock/unlock the saddlebags! Just an FYI. Since this came with none... well... yeah lol. Only needs one guage because they don't constantly have issues like _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ .
If you have 8 bikes and if one of thems not an Indian you’re doing something wrong 😂 love that line. I work for Harley, and I ride an Indian. I love Harley’s cus they’re what got me into motorcycles, but I haven’t been on one that feels good. Every Indian I’ve been on felt smooth and much more controllable than any Harley. Not knocking em, but Indian specs their bikes a lot better for new riders and experienced. They price theirs more for a younger audience too. You get a much better bike for the price. In any class. And quality control and reliability.. omg. Why do you think Harley offers their warranties on used bikes? You buy one and if you haven’t visited the shop in less than 5k you’re lucky. I still love Harley’s, but being young and broke, and still a somewhat new rider (3 years) Indians my go to brand.
My '48 Chief has rated 40 hp, weighs 593 pounds, max 85mph, foot clutch hand shift, drum brakes, lotsa tappet noise and heavy handling, you gotta love the oldies.
Glad to see an Indian video of yours again - not owning one yet - but I’m really thinking switching into that camp. They look better, they are better and definitely more state of the art on the paper. Need to get my hands on one and test ride it
Never owned a HD when test riding them was never impressed compared to my Honda VTX 1800, with that said though cannot wait till I get my 20 Chieftain with a few upgrades 😎
New Zealands billionaire Graeme Hart..!!!.. His 116 meter (380 ft) yacht Ulysses was in St John (US Virgin Islands) . . She was built by Kleven Yachts for Graeme Hart. . . He actually built two yachts; this one and a 107 meter, now named Andromeda. . . He reportedly sold Andromeda to billionaire Yuri Milner. . . In September 2019 & several messages that Milner also bought the 116 meter Ulysses (!). . . Hart in the meantime has bought the CRN yacht Cloud 9 and named her Odyssey. . . And we were also told that Hart bought the CRN yacht J’Ade. (And she is now on transport to New Zealand). .for the Americas Cup races in 2021..!!!
For those of us who don't know what turquoise is, I'd bet you've probably never been to Eastern Oklahoma (Indian Territory). Turquoise is a rock that many of us Indians use as jewelry. Not everyone sees the beauty in it. Turquoise was put on that Indian for a reason. Either the previous owner or the artist knew some Indian History.
Hey man, love your videos. Why do you not have a review of the KLX 250? I love this bike and I am about to buy one (2021 model). Would love to hear your thought on it.
Went and looked at new Indians yesterday. Love the new bikes and they feel nice but $28K is a bit steep for a bike. The Challenger looked like the Road Glide and fixed fairings throw me off big time. Chieftain was Street Glide comparable and I did see a Dark Horse on the floor.
Actually the direct Harley counterpart would be the Softail Slim. Striped down larger cruiser with floorboards. Similar performance but the Harley is $2,500 less expensive.
@@I05tream The Slim and DeLux are basically the same bike but t he DeLux has more shinny bits. The DeLux seems to compare to the Vintage but no bags. The Slim is the same solo seat blacked out cruiser.
@@gregp1409 Not so. First, the Indian has about an 8% advantage in power according to each's web site. A stage one upgrade would erase that advantage and it wouldn't cost anywhere near $2,500. Not to mention the Indian is is over 100 pounds heavier so does it really even have an advantage.
Talking bout the handle bar size I’ve been having a hard time finding a cell phone mount that fits, will the phone mount u always recommend fit this bike? Also while you have in your stable I wanna pout a sissy bar or stick on back to strap a bag when I go to work instead of carrying on my back. Can you recommend one for the dark horse. 🤗
Hey i'm turning 18 and in my country riding more than 125cc bike at 18 is illegal also i'm 6,2 so what do you think what bike should i get? I'm thinking about Yamaha Yzf-R125
I have a 400$ garage find... 95 Suzuki savage 650 with a grounding problem, cleaned carb, new filters, emptied tank, daily driven 2 years ago but my friend had a grounding issue on it which started to melt a wire.... sound like death or do I send it?
@@whitelightning3330 you're wrong. Harleys break down veery easily. Hell, the royal Enfield bullet from 1920s that they are still making now is more reliable than harleys.
@@whitelightning3330 I would buy a used Victory before I would buy a new Harley. In 2017, Victory was the 4th most reliable motorcycle brand in the world. Only Japanese bikes were more reliable. So, it's a statistical fact that Victorys have higher quality than Harleys.
I own the Chief Vintage from the "Why we won't sell Indians" video.
Almost 4 years and over 24,000 miles later, the bike has been flawless. I've ridden it from Massachusetts to West Virginia and every state in between with no issues whatsoever .
20K miles in three years on my '17 Chieftain LTD. One minor factory recall, no other issues. Love it.
What was the recall if you don’t mind me asking
2018 limited. Best all around bike I've ever owned, and that includes the 2014 ultra I traded in on it.
@@ronnierushing700 Dont' mind at all. It was a gear position switch. The digital readout became slow when changing gears up or down. Also, the factory was concerned that it would show neutral when it was actually in gear. The dealer fixed mine under warranty before the factory knew it was a more widespread problem. I subsequently received the improved switch with the recall.
@gtsteele6219 same . Had it taken care of a couple years ago. It's starting to do it again.
Harley equivalent !?!? Nah they don't have one, the Indian handles way better, brakes better, feels more comfortable to be on and thanks to excellent suspension tuning on the front and that Fox shock on the back it absolutely eats the Harley on the rougher roads and bumpy corners. Now I'm talking apples for apples, one touring bike against another, all of Harley's touring bikes have at best two and a half inches of rear suspension travel whilst the Indian has four and a half. As a long time Road King owner who has traversed Australia more than once, I can tell you that one ride on the Indian blew my mind. If you ride both and still buy a Harley, it's because you're buying into a brand, that's it, nothing more, there is no way your Harley is better.
It wasn't the Indian motorcycle he hated, it was the treatment by the dealer.
@wooley: true. But if the dealer is a douche, why get the bike? I mean, some where a long the way, you'll probably need to take the bike to the dealer. I don't need that kind of stress. I ride a bike to de-stress.
@@deepsleep7822 My HD dealer was a douche like Most all of them! They just want to sell you the HD trash and then treat you like crap when something goes wrong under warranty!
It was kinda a clickbait title :( That said, I walked away from Harley after 40 years of riding and now love my '19 Roadmaster!
The two "buttons" on the tank are for power locking saddle bags/trunk (on the right) and heated grips (on the left).
I prefer hd but am glad to see them have a serious contender, competition is good. It forces hd to stay focused.
That's such a beautiful bike. Definitely one I'd keep forever if I had it. Conversation starter that's for sure.
Who ever sees this have a amazing day, god loves you
Cheers for that
Not so sure
You too brother
Thank you, I’ll pray for you brother.
Thanks
I had a 16 Chief Darkhorse and loved it. I sold it in18 to get a chieftain darkhorse. The 19s started looking like harleys. Love my chieftain. The adjustable electric windshield is one reason I would never consider a Harley. Very useful.
I'm new to your channel and I already love it. Been riding for about 8 years now and I'm ready to switch to a touring bike. I was between the vintage and the road king. I like the way you explain your knowledge. OAN: I do love how you always read a verse before riding.
The badges on the tank are hand made from Zambini Bro’s.
Yeah Shaun doesn’t realize how expensive those are.
5 seconds
Turquoise is a stone, beautiful when polished.
Yes and very much loved by native Americans. Appropriate for an Indian motorcycle
I've got an 18 dark horse. You are exactly right, I love the stripped down look. Not knocking Harley a bit but indian has it together on this bike. When I ride I dont want bags or extra frills in my way. Thanks for the vid and glad to see u have a better experience with an indian.....
Been debating on whether to ger a Harley or Indian Dark horse. From the reviews ive seen. The Indian has way better handling and riding comfort. As well as virtually no mechanical issues. Think I'll get the Dark Horse.
@@Iceman77772 I can honestly say that I don't have much time for a nice bike but anytime I regret buying it, all I have to do is ride it. No remorse here.
@@Iceman77772 I decided to get a Dark Horse this spring. I found one online in Detroit for the right price, so called the dealership and told them to hold it for me. Bought a one-way plane ticket from Utah, signed for it and rode it almost 2k miles homes. By the time I got home I'd already gotten more comments and people talking to me about it then the whole 2 years I rode a Harley lol. Harley's are good, but from where I'm sitting, the Dark Horse is better :)
Love your video. Thank you. I just got my first Indian Chief Vintage. after 30 years of Harley . Great review.
I love Indian motorcycles. I have a 2014 Indian Chief. Amazing bike!
I have 2019 Indian Dark Horse with the different drive modes and it is the best bike I ever had.
S1KRR is 100000x better, you are a racist.
Mine's an 18 chieftain limited. I concur! Great motorcycles!
My Dad's first cycle was a 1938 Indian - awesome video amigo.
I plan on getting a chief dark horse as my first bike. (Yes I'm batshit crazy and I'm proud of it) but when I first went into the dealer, I was looking for a scout. Guy actually recommended I try the chief out and I'm GLAD I did, the scout felt small to me when I was sitting on it but the chief felt like a damn glove man. And you're right, it really doesn't feel all that heavy when you're riding it.
I have a '19 chief darkhorse....wife surprised me with it for my 30th. Love it! Thing is so fun to ride and alot more sportier than i thought too.
Your THUNDER STROKE blew me away. Just what I needed. Thanks
"Victory is on par with HD, if they have not surpassed" I love it!!!!
Not anymore.
only complaint i have of your vids is you use the same type of title. Don't buy, ect. it's kind of click bait to me , especially when as far as i know you have not ridden the bike that long. a first impressions i can see, but one short trip won't tell you everything. just my opinion. i do like that you tryout alot of bikes .
Get your hands on the Indian Challenger. I'm interested in that one
A few months ago I test rode a Chief Dark Horse. It does ride pretty smooth, and suspension is very nice and soft. The con for me: I'm 180cm long (5.9) and the shifter is too much forward. I'm used to heel-toe shifting on my Intruder, and that would be a great feature on this motorcycle. The current shifter would have felt much nicer if I would have longer legs or even bigger feet. My advice: If you like the looks and have the money, go for it!
CaridinaIntruder . Have intruder 1500. 5’ 6” tall. Know what you mean.
I think the brown bags, seat and whips, would pop on there. Make it look like a spotted horse. 🤔🤔🤔 black bikes are everywhere. The Indian brown seats, really helps them separate themselves from the others.
I am so sick and tired of black bikes!
You mean painted horse? Or paints?
Love the 0-60 excuses, never gets old!
Thaught I was the only one who laughed about those
I own a 2019 version with 3 ride modes. Ride this this bike in Sport mode--it flies!
This motorcycle is gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a Scout and thought about getting one of these as a second bike. Love the look of them.
have a Springfield since 2016, just love it still and enjoy every km here in Germany.
I thought you weren't buying Indians anymore? because of the service you got at the Indian dealer ship.
That is what I thought as well.
I like to think he had the sense to not let a couple minimum wage employees ruin a whole motorcycle brand for him
Still waiting for SRK's reply......
He'll buy anything he can make a dollar on...
4.5
I can’t recommend these enough. I bought a brand new one in 2018. I have no complaints.
I just took home a 2020 Chief Vintage it's an awesome machine I love it.
8 months later, how do you like it? I called the dealer yesterday and I'm trying decide to buy or not.
@@BRS-Peterbilt-379 go with it...you won't regret it.
"Victory is on-par with Harley Davidson..." I see what you did there 😉
Well, victory is just immortal so, it’s not on par
@@sergiocastro588 True. I meant he called it a Victory in that statement. He's riding an Indian.
@@jasonrobertson5526 Victory and Indian are both owned by Polaris making it the same company. Polaris ended their Victory line because Indian has an immortal name and there was no point in having two big v-twin company names.
Thank you for a good review. I own a 2020 Darkhorse Chief. I love it!!! Funny thing is that I was looking for a vmax because of your review. Nobody has one in Nashville. I drove the Darkhorse Chief one time, and purchased it a few days later.
You browse beat Indian then you love them I am starting to believe that you would try to sell a space heater to hades
I've got six bikes in my garage and one of them is an Indian. Man, what a bike it is.
Should have dark pipes in it. Would love to drive one ones day
@kiki the gerbil so? I think it looks good in black.
The newer model years do have black pipes as well. Over the past 4 years or so they add a little more black to each model year.
@kiki the gerbil ah
I got me a 2020 Springfield 116 dark horse, Sport mode should have been named Arrest mode
most definitely!
Prison mode 🤣
I ride a victory cct but the Indian takes the cake ,the are powerfully engine and the clutch is smooth with no cluncky shifting
perfect timing, currently have a streetglide but im looking to get a almost new, or actually new indian chief or springfield. great video as always!
I bought a new 2019 Indian Springfield this year... holy cow brother you wouldn't BELIEVE how many comments I get. I've never had dudes roll their windows down at red lights and ask me Where I got it/How much it costs/etc... Harleys are cool, but Indians turn heads more, and to be honest come with just as much muscle and even more tech straight from the factory.
@@jonathanbarker2592 I appreciate the reply, Im prob gonna be driving away with one soon than
Thunderstroke sounds like something thor does in his house alone
Yes it does
😆😆
LMAO!!
Please do a video of the w800 and especially the café version, looks really interesting
The two buttons on the center console are... on the left heated handle grips (if installed) and the right is your lock/unlock button for the hard saddle bags if you buy them.
I have a chief vintage with a decatted, performance programmed, cammed stage 2. Fun, big and fast. I can make it perform, but dig the unique look and color. It is different and not an HD.
Great video Caleb! The Dark Horse parked right next to my CVO Fat Boy would be awesome. The custom turquoise inlay is awesome too - very Indian.
I rode that bike in Daytona on a test run. It's comparable to the Heritage Harley but sits lower. My cousin Eddie ended up blowing up the engine after he test rode it.
Obvious Correction: "If Batman rode a motorcycle" it would be a blacked out Honda Valkyrie Rune. Hands down. No question.
Just sold a rune. It’s a great bike. Very attention grabbing. I’m happier with my Indians.
@@cwroberts79 I'd love to pick up a Rune to sit next to my Valkyrie. But alas, the paycheck says "no". LOL.
Batman rides custom.
@@cwroberts79 I think
The Chief Dark Horse is my dream bike. The look of them, especially with beach bars and a spring seat, makes me want to throw down the money even though I know it's a bad idea with my limited experience. I love matte black, and I love Americana. This bike is absolutely both of those. I'm currently looking at a used Vulcan 900 so I can get used to bikes that are bigger and heavier than the little Rebel 450 that I've been riding. Once I have the experience though, a Chief Dark Horse will be mine.
I own a Vulcan so I maybe bias, however you can get all the bike you will ever need for less than $5,000 if you buy Nov-Feb a near meant condition 6+ year old Vulcan can be purchased as low as $3,500. The bikes are very low maintenance and can easily run 100,000 miles
Hey same here! I would prefer the Springfield Dark Horse but still, the Dark Horse line up are my dream bikes, they look so badass and I have heard nothing but great things about performance
Get the Honda shadow phantom. You may not want the Indian after u ride it. @1/2 the price as well. Just saying....
Google up "old inc fiberglass fenders". I have a drifter fender on my vulcan 900 and it's a great platform till you're ready to move up. I can show you pics of what my 900 looks like with their fender, it's perfect
@@iamIncrediblehulk Even when I was on my V Star 1300 my wife's Shadow 750 felt like a scooter in comparison. Maybe if you started on a Shadow and never rode a bigger bike that would be all you want... maybe ;-P But after riding an Indian a Honda Shadow isn't even close; as long as you're willing to pay the difference of course. Notice I said WILLING to pay not can AFFORD to pay. I hate it when people think that just because someone is riding a smaller cheaper bike it's becasue of a financial limitation instead of what they person wants to ride. BTW I'm not an Indian, or any bike (owned Kawi, Honda, Yamaha, Victory, and Indian), snob. But they're not even close to the same league of bike.
The Chief Dark Horse certainly did come with bags & windscreen if so ordered. I had one, a 2016 & it was a great machine. It shared duty with my CVO Ultra which was, at the time, pushing 60k on the clock.
I don’t normally like ‘all black’ bikes, but that Indian looks beautiful!
I love my 2016 darkhorse. I have put 20k miles on it in the past 3 years and it has been absolutely amazing. There are a few issues with it. But it doesn't bother me
Well…..what were the issues???
@@pythonman8103 the speed sensor on the front wheel isn't protected very well and has had to be replaced twice due to small rocks hitting it when riding down gravel roads, the gear indicator switch gets clogged up with belt shavings and will show the wrong gear and can actually start in gear if your not careful, happened to me once lol (Indian has a recall with new designed switch I just have not done it yet), and the ABS will sometimes work and sometimes not work and has been like that for a long time.The heated grips are not very warm at all and are basically useless( this is probably my fault because I didn't install correctly or I might need to update the pcm). Stock oem battery SUCKS and is a hit or miss with how long it will last, I replaced it with a higher CCA battery and is a major difference in starting as well. Minor issues in my opinion but they are technically problems. I have about 30k miles on it now, still running strong.
If you could have only one, FTR 1200 or the Chief? Another nice vid
Hey Sean. You had spoken about a verse that I cannot remember the number. Was from Matthew about if u do all your work for god he will always give you enough time and strength you need to get through. . I cant remember exactly. Could u help me remember the numbers. I had started working 2 jobs 2 months ago and have been feeling super overwhelmed and after u talked about that I heard it again from a coworker. And i think it's something i am suppose to pay attention to. Just wanna remember the verse better. Thank alot you guys. Keep em coming.
My O to 60 guestimate ...5.3 second. On a side note, I love the way that bike sounds; full, low octave purr is so cool. Yes, I get the loud thumper Harley deal, but this bike sounds like it has so much power, yet it’s not rattling you’re melon.
Hey, I was close! Loved the sound of the burnout, but it probably cost you a couple tenths of a second.
Damn that chief vintage is one good looking rig.
@2:31, those are usually the buttons to lock/unlock the saddlebags! Just an FYI. Since this came with none... well... yeah lol.
Only needs one guage because they don't constantly have issues like _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ .
Beginning of the video " I dont like the saddlebags that got added" mid video* " the saddlebags I love the leather saddlebags" lol
My triumph thunderbird storm 1700 does 0 to 60 in 3.3 seconds now. Partly because I got better at take off and partly because some mods
If you have 8 bikes and if one of thems not an Indian you’re doing something wrong 😂 love that line. I work for Harley, and I ride an Indian. I love Harley’s cus they’re what got me into motorcycles, but I haven’t been on one that feels good. Every Indian I’ve been on felt smooth and much more controllable than any Harley. Not knocking em, but Indian specs their bikes a lot better for new riders and experienced. They price theirs more for a younger audience too. You get a much better bike for the price. In any class. And quality control and reliability.. omg. Why do you think Harley offers their warranties on used bikes? You buy one and if you haven’t visited the shop in less than 5k you’re lucky.
I still love Harley’s, but being young and broke, and still a somewhat new rider (3 years) Indians my go to brand.
I think the two unidentified buttons on the tank are to set the clock or trip counter on the odometer.
My '48 Chief has rated 40 hp, weighs 593 pounds, max 85mph, foot clutch hand shift, drum brakes, lotsa tappet noise and heavy handling, you gotta love the oldies.
Glad to see an Indian video of yours again - not owning one yet - but I’m really thinking switching into that camp. They look better, they are better and definitely more state of the art on the paper. Need to get my hands on one and test ride it
The context of Exodus 14: 14 is Moses talking to the Israelites while they were being chased by the Pharaoh. A good verse indeed.
Especially in these times.
If batman rode a motorcycle, it’s gonna be an all black MV agusta.
Never owned a HD when test riding them was never impressed compared to my Honda VTX 1800, with that said though cannot wait till I get my 20 Chieftain with a few upgrades 😎
This is the Indian Vintage Dark Horse, regular 2020+ chief dark horse fenders doesn't look like that.
That looked super smooth
New Zealands billionaire Graeme Hart..!!!..
His 116 meter (380 ft) yacht Ulysses was in St John (US Virgin Islands) . . She was built by Kleven Yachts for Graeme Hart. . . He actually built two yachts; this one and a 107 meter, now named Andromeda. . . He reportedly sold Andromeda to billionaire Yuri Milner. . . In September 2019 & several messages that Milner also bought the 116 meter Ulysses (!). . . Hart in the meantime has bought the CRN yacht Cloud 9 and named her Odyssey. . . And we were also told that Hart bought the CRN yacht J’Ade. (And she is now on transport to New Zealand). .for the Americas Cup races in 2021..!!!
The local Indian dealer must love you now.
Would love to see an Indian Scout Bobber review
0-60, around 4-5 seconds, but I'm just guessing. Never rode one of these beautiful bikes.
When you go victory indian you never go Harley Davidson...
Do they have it in "GLOSS"?
Yeah the normal chief comes with Gloss paint. But the Dark Horse trim is matte.
@Srkcycles When are you gonna try the Challenger?
My God I love this bike the way it looks all it needs is a stereo man its beautiful I was all about Harley till I seen this video
After watching several of your 0-60 attempts, I’m pretty sure Ricky Gadson isn’t looking over his shoulder. 😁
was waiting for this after you posted on insta
Is the Chief or Springfield bigger than a HD Road King ? Thanks
For those of us who don't know what turquoise is, I'd bet you've probably never been to Eastern Oklahoma (Indian Territory). Turquoise is a rock that many of us Indians use as jewelry. Not everyone sees the beauty in it. Turquoise was put on that Indian for a reason. Either the previous owner or the artist knew some Indian History.
Damn, I can see the rust bubbles on the skirted fender from here..
Hey man, love your videos. Why do you not have a review of the KLX 250?
I love this bike and I am about to buy one (2021 model).
Would love to hear your thought on it.
Went and looked at new Indians yesterday. Love the new bikes and they feel nice but $28K is a bit steep for a bike.
The Challenger looked like the Road Glide and fixed fairings throw me off big time.
Chieftain was Street Glide comparable and I did see a Dark Horse on the floor.
Read the title and immediately went to the website and ordered one. You don't control me.
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Hi Sean nice bike great vid thank you 🖐🇦🇺✌
Actually the direct Harley counterpart would be the Softail Slim. Striped down larger cruiser with floorboards. Similar performance but the Harley is $2,500 less expensive.
I would say the Deluxe is more the counterpart, except the Chief are on the same frame/suspsension/etc as the Springfield, depending on the year.
@@I05tream The Slim and DeLux are basically the same bike but t he DeLux has more shinny bits. The DeLux seems to compare to the Vintage but no bags. The Slim is the same solo seat blacked out cruiser.
Until you upgrade the engine to match a stock Indian, then the Harley is way more expensive.
@@gregp1409 Not so. First, the Indian has about an 8% advantage in power according to each's web site. A stage one upgrade would erase that advantage and it wouldn't cost anywhere near $2,500. Not to mention the Indian is is over 100 pounds heavier so does it really even have an advantage.
@@haroldobrien4322 Obviously you've never ridden both :-P
looks like a yamaha road liner with no saddle bag
Try speed shifting. Keep the throttle open
Talking bout the handle bar size I’ve been having a hard time finding a cell phone mount that fits, will the phone mount u always recommend fit this bike? Also while you have in your stable I wanna pout a sissy bar or stick on back to strap a bag when I go to work instead of carrying on my back. Can you recommend one for the dark horse. 🤗
Hey i'm turning 18 and in my country riding more than 125cc bike at 18 is illegal also i'm 6,2 so what do you think what bike should i get? I'm thinking about Yamaha Yzf-R125
Love the power of my indian Roadmaster ts 111
Beautiful review i wish you change the place of tourning
SRK would you be interested in a 1981 yamaha sv920? I'm in ny 😁
SV or XV 920???
Sean I have the 2016 dark horse, best bike I ever had, replaced my 2005 Electra glide with this bike, so much better
Is it more reliable as well?
Ceez n Sandz Maese Ceez it’s definitely all my Harley was n more, very reliable
I ride a honda VFR800 and was running about 110mph when my friend ran me down and pulled up next to me on his indian chief no problem
Have you ever seen Native American Jewelry Sean like a Squash Blossom necklace the blue stones that's turquoise. Absolutely beautiful stuff!
I have a 400$ garage find... 95 Suzuki savage 650 with a grounding problem, cleaned carb, new filters, emptied tank, daily driven 2 years ago but my friend had a grounding issue on it which started to melt a wire.... sound like death or do I send it?
Did you say "Victory is on par with Harley Davidson" at 4:59???
Victory couldn't touch harleys quality and fit and finish and tbh i dont think indian can either.
@@whitelightning3330 i think you're missing the point.... dude is not riding a Victory!
@@whitelightning3330 you're wrong. Harleys break down veery easily. Hell, the royal Enfield bullet from 1920s that they are still making now is more reliable than harleys.
@@whitelightning3330 I would buy a used Victory before I would buy a new Harley. In 2017, Victory was the 4th most reliable motorcycle brand in the world. Only Japanese bikes were more reliable. So, it's a statistical fact that Victorys have higher quality than Harleys.
white lightning you're right, they didn't touch it. THEY SURPASSED IT BY MILES!
Hey Srkcycles my motorcycle got stolen and I was wondering if you have any tips to get it back
Batman rides a motorcycle and it doesn't look like this.
You should do a GSXS-1000 vs FZ1 video since you have both right now!