THIS will shut down your campsites and trails
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
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Trails and Campsites getting SHUT DOWN (Can we stop it?). Why are our trails and campsites getting shut down?. Anyone interested in working together on this clean up please reach out to me at oxfoot.media@gmail.com
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Having done a lot of this, you're going to need to spend about $50 to get the tools that are going to keep you safe and being able to do this long-term.
Heavy contractor bags are a must. The quickest way to get discouraged is to have your bag of freshly picked trash break in your truck.
Leather gloves. Harbor Freight is my go-to. I prefer to wear their full grain cowhide and I get them a size smaller than I normally wear because the leather will stretch a little bit and I want good dexterity while doing this kind of work.
The next item is a grab nabber or nifty nabber. This is the item you are going to want to spend the money on. This is the thing you're going to use to pick up trash from the ground without bending over all the time. Also you can pick up sharp things with it instead of with your hands. I prefer the aluminum body with the inline handle, as opposed to the trigger grip.
For camp areas like you are showing in this video where the ground is primarily loose dirt, if you buy some quarter inch hardware cloth and make a simple wood frame you can attach the hardware cloth to the frame to make a sifter. I use screws for everything (as opposed to nails or staples). Then you toss shovelfuls onto the screen and sift out the shell casings and other junk. Leaf rakes can be helpful to make piles of junk, too.
As for how to help prevent these areas from being shut down, I have no good solutions. The places I used to day hike and the forest roads I used to drive 20 years ago have been all but permanently closed. This is in spite of numerous community cleanup days, some of which were extremely well publicized in an effort to demonstrate that people care about these natural spaces. This is in spite of education attempts to remind people why they should pack out all the stuff they packed in. The locals ignore the closures anyway and continue to bring their trash into the forest to use it as a dump. They still haul their washers and dryers into the woods to use them for target practice. They are still spending their time in the woods getting drunk and various kinds of high. The main difference is now they are also doing damage to the gates that are put in place to block the roads, or they're cutting down trees to get around the gates.
Going out into nature and taking care of it, trying to be a good individual steward, showing that there are more people who care about preserving and maintaining these natural spaces than those who would go out and ruin them is probably the best way to keep these spaces available. It's by no means a guarantee. I think having some kind of organization to the efforts is useful because when you find out about a hearing to remove access to a particular trail you can attend that meeting with your sign-in sheets and receipts from the dump. You can tell this committee that over the past 6 months some number of unique individuals have participated in many hours of planned cleanup work, and hauled X number of cars to the scrap yard, Y number of appliances and Z tons of trash to the landfill, all at your organization's expense.
Good luck out there!
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You will always have people that do this. The answer is not shut them down, the answer is to police for these things catch them and fine them. Have the government do their job! We don’t close stores when people rob them. Cleaning up after yourself is a given. This is no excuse to close them. Bruh!
Yeah I do think that there is an incentive to close them down so I doubt they care if it’s clean or not but I do believe keeping it clean stops them from having an excuse to do it. Been following the blue ribbon coalition and it’s been very eye opening to me about public land shutdowns.
Before you start something new, contact the Colorado 4 Wheelers and Colorado Association of Four-Wheel Drive Clubs if they still exist. We did a lot in the 70s.
The closing of trails and camping sites has been an ongoing issue since the 60s. Born and raised in Colorado I used to do lot of off-roading. At one time farmers and ranchers used to let us access their lands till people started abusing the privilege. About five years ago I started camping again and I was amazed at the number of places I can’t go in Colorado. Part of the issue is the population and housing increases in the last 60 years. And those that start fires and leave trash just add more fuel to the closing of areas.
I hope your video might do some good and starting with organizations that already exist is probably one of the routes to help out. The other is for all of us to take a personal interest in the ares we go. My last trip to Arizona I collected 2 - 30 gallon bags of trash.
Yeah I mean I look at some of the sites and people being stuck going where they shouldn’t and I start to understand the shutdowns but then I remember that it’s not our fault some people are bad actors. I’ll reach out to any organization I can to see if we can work on something. I want to get people experienced with it involved for sure. Thanks!
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Public land is NOT owned by the government. It is owned by the public but managed by the government. Huge distinction as far as control of access is concerned.
As far as clean ups, have you reached out to groups like sons of smokey, tread lightly, blue ribbon coalition, etc... to get ideas or resources to organize a clean up or take part in one?
Yeah good point, it’s owned by the public but managed by the government. At the end of the day they have the final say in it which makes it feel like they own it. We own that land and it is up to us to maintain it.
I haven’t worked out too much, need to speak with blue ribbon coalition though
I was in the scouts when I was a kid.One thing they taught me you leave it better than you found it. If you can carry it in you can carry it out
Very true. We used to do cleanups in cubscouts and Boy Scouts. Pack it in pack it out
That’s how I was taught in Boy Scouts too! I’ll pick up the smallest bit of trash I find before I leave.
This is one of my biggest gripes (along with people letting their dog roam off leash to wander into my site 100 yards away triggering my 2 pitties) and idk how to stop it other then a permit system to have some level of tracking & accountability. I almost always spend 20-30 min cleaning trash when first arriving to a campsite; usually broken glass, tp, beer cans, and dog shit. I’ve seen a few absolute dirt bags just throw trash (cup, can, wet wipe) out the window as they’re driving down Forrest roads. Some people simply don’t deserve to enjoy these spaces.
Been wild camping in the Sitgreaves National Forest (Arizona) the last 2 weeks. Moved to a different site multiple times since getting here. It's amazing how trashed this place is. I do what I can to clean up other peoples garbage and 💩💩💩, but after awhile I have to cut my loses and move on.
As American Adventurist motto is "Closure is not the answer" maybe if the NFS and BLM employees would increase their staff and work with people rather than just shut down the areas would be more productive
It is very sad that people treat these awesome places like their own trash dump.
We should always leave it better than we found it.
Never leave trash anywhere in the city and much less out in the fields where there is no trash pick up.
We need to enlist the community and companies that sell outdoor products to form a qualition to educate and clean up areas that more prone to become trash dumps. Target areas closer to town since more people tend to go there to party, hangout, camp, hunt, or just to dump trash.
Thanks
Leaving it better than you found it is the only way to make it better. The stuff closest to town and easiest to get to are always the worst. I never assume it’s people in our community but at least we can clean it up.
This is why I carry extra bags in my truck. I always pickup extra when I'm out there.
From now on I’m doing that. Loaded a whole trash bag roll into my camping gear for future trips.
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You might have to just scrape up the top layer with a shovel to get rid of the glass. You can sift it out later or just dump it all.
Camp In, Trash Out
Yeah that might not be a bad idea. Maybe build my own sifter. Might still get some rocks in it but it’s better than getting glass where it shouldn’t be.
And if you build it once, in a 5 gallon bucket or something. It would be easy to take along every time.
Hey man, thanks for making this video. I don’t think it’s people in your viewership that are the problem, but we are likely the solution. It’s a problem in the west because we have so much public land. Ironically, if people thought of themselves as owners of that land, they wouldn’t leave trash like this. It’s really sad. All that said, I’m not far from you and if you mention a time and place for a cleanup I will do my best to rally a crew and come help out! Great job, sir!
We are planning a clean up now. Possibly looking at the weekend after 4th of July weekend as I think that’s when we could make the most impact after people trash it the weekend before, I’ll keep updates up in the community posts as we get more of a plan.
Nice I think I could make that work. Will you talk about it in a video at all?
@@bunttom9007 possibly I'll try to make updates however I'm not really a vlogger so it might not make sense, but Ill try. I'll try if I can but I will 100% update in the community tab as well as IG
this is why I chose the name angry camper because this shit pisses my off to no end. as far as leaving a pop up to reserve a site, nah, I'll pack your popup up and you wont get it back.
Yeah I thought about how I could just easily remove that camper from that camp site if I was really that much of an ass
@@OXFOOT was it a camper or an ez up? I thought you meant canopy, like a 10x10.
Was in Washington state had 8 campgrounds closed in 2 different NF
Damn that sucks, I’m sure it’s happening where I live already I just haven’t see the sites personally, but I keep hearing about it happening.
Let me guess, old stage road area?
It’s Santa Fe over near Idaho springs.
For glass cleanup I would recommend a sturdy box lined with a trash bag. Tools you'll need are a rake, shovel and garden hoe.
Rake up all the large pieces of glass into the shovel then toss into the sturdy box. Go back over the area with the garden hoe to get the smaller pieces into the shovel then toss in box. Thats the only thing I can think of to try and cleanup the glass on top of the ground.
Yeah that’s not a bad idea. Just sift what I get up with the rake and get as much class in a cardboard box. It’s so tough to clean up, wish people would just stick to cans.
This is a great idea to organize a trail cleanup! I usually carry plastic grocery bags with me when camping and make sure the entire site is clean as a whistle before I leave. Having said that, I think I might upgrade and make sure I have a Contractor Trash Bag with me in case I encounter what you found out there @OXFOOT
I went to that same campsite the other day and there was a whole propane tank. I couldn’t get it in that trip but I’m going back for it. The biggest problem is stuff like tanks and tires and all that costs money to dispose of where I am so I want to try to get a trash company involved so we don’t have to spend hundreds of dollars disposing of large objects.
But yeah the smaller stuff I can make sure I get every time