Archery Review: Black Hunter Takedown Recurve 60”
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- First of all SORRY for bad audio in the first part of the video - my audio files got lost, so I had to use in camera audio...
Quite a nice, fast and powerful bow (besides the hassle with the holes) - great recurve for intermediate and pro archers
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Armin Hirmer
Malta Archery
100 Triq Annibale Preca
Lija LJA 1915
Malta
I know nothing about archery but it is a pastime I have never tried, in 64 years. After watching your review and Kramer Ammons review I have purchased this bow for my first. Thank you for bothering to take the time. 👍
This man doesn't strike me as a post malone fan
Oh i laughed so hard when the bolts wouldn't fit the limbs! Armin, you made my day yet again sir! 😂😂 All the best!
I was quite impressed by the riser when I purchased one. Lightweight, feels nice in the hand, looks nice. The felt and pegs are nice too. For $100-115 it's a decent bow. I didn't have to drill out the bolt holes or anything. I'm going to build a new target today and put a hundred arrows into it and see how well it does. Hahaha, 8:05 I don't know anyone that uses a stringer. The string grooves on the limbs kept the string in. I had another bow that the groove on the lower limb was cut badly and every time I'd pull back, not even to full draw, the string would slip out.
I shoot the longbow version #45. It has the same riser. I like it a lot. BTW, the holes were OK for the bolts! ;-)
Definitely a beautiful hunting bow and the hunters who reviewed it said the same thing you did and they were impressed with the quality of this bow. They also said that It was a bit too loud and they would add bow string silencer but other than that is a good quality light bow from China.
Good Quality when bolts not fit? Well... A good one is, when all fits perfectly as Standard!
I got mine - it's perfect and even bolts are now black....
@@istra70 Qual marca do arco? Top Archery?
@@MERCIOMARTINS
Black Hunter recurve 55
@@istra70 Sim. A minha dúvida é que na Aliexpress tem vários fornecedores com esse mesmo arco. Como sabe qual deles tem uma qualidade aceitável?
Thank you, ordered one of the Black Hunters... love my Mongolian Bow for Flu Flu archery but will see how this bow works for me since it was not expensive at fifty pound draw... I shoot a lot of 45 pound draw bows... and then more powerful compound bows... also do crossbows and have several of those and many rifles and such, decided since this bow riser matches one of my favorite rifles with a stock in the same laminate as this bows riser will also make a nice display when not in use in my hunting room. Appreciate your video on this bow and I will put a Fast Flight string on it and use 300 to 340 spine arrows first and see how I like those and shift around with arrow spine since I do like Flu Flu bow shooting and such... wish you a good day and thank you for your very detailed videos on archery.
Great video as usual.
Audio wasn't that much of an issue, just had to turn it up.
All the important stuff was at the end anyway.! Thanks again!
Have both versions of this bow now... really like them. Wish you a good 2023 in Malta and I appreciate all your lessons on your videos and links... have a very good year coming up. They did come up with another version of this Black Hunter stuff... some say is really nice .. the Black Hunter 58" TRIANGLE bow that is bamboo laminate and fiberglass at 30 to 40LBS... hope you do a review of that bow in time... and wish you the best.
I believe those were NOS limbs. The original Black Hunters had 1/4 inch bolts and the newer ones are made with 5/8 inch bolts.
5/8” !
I just got mine. 45# excellent shooting bow!
Just found your channel, great vlog. I'm just starting out doing archery and I'm really enjoying it.
Very good comments and good advice
I got the 55# model its very nice . Well worth the money
Just ordered mine 55# .... now in waiting ....
How's the black hunter holding up? I've held off due to the multiple reviews of the bow splitting and the string breaking. It's such a good looking bow with seemingly a lot of potential, but I'm not interested in throwing away my money or smacking myself in the face on the draw...
I have that bow but with the longbow limbs and it is an awesome bow. Mine had the right size holes. That's weird that yours were small and needed to be drilled out.
I got mine at 30 pounds and the bolts fitted right on!
Shoots great 👍
The 40lb one I got same thing. Also the bolt and conical washers I got were both black. Just bought in May of 2021.
I recently bought two D&Q 62" takedown recurve bows @ 45 lbs. We love them but I can't any reviews or information on D&Q Archery. Is there a reason why? Are the reviews generally good for this product? Is it maybe sold under another name? New to Archery. Love it! Thanks if you can help
I have one in 50 lb draw. I shoot easton legacy arrows with 125 grain tips in 400 spine and a flemish twist string (original string is garbage) I use a hoyt style rest. With a bit of noise tuning the bow shoots great
Just picked up the Big Rock variant as a bamboo hybrid in 40# @ 28" (38# as measured) I draw 30" and was very nervous about potential stacking, but was pleasantly surprised when it only just began to express some reluctance when at my full draw. No complaints, especially at this price point. Damn good looking bow, too.
Currently pondering arrow selection as I only have some vaned Envy X5's 400 spine @ 31.5" on hand and feathers are required. Some already have some torn vanes and I was considering refletching and call it a day. Too heavy?
Not being anything remotely akin to expert, various charts suggest Easton Tribute 1916's for inexpensive aluminum (pardon me "aluminium"), and Gold Tip Traditionals 500 spine @ 31" in carbon. However, as best I can understand the nuance of a more sophisticated online spine calculator, it wants to point me at a carbon 600 spine. Not sure as to the bow's center shot specifics, "0" or some offset one way or the other. I want to say I heard it was cut slightly past center, but I can't say as to how much. The calculator seems quite sensitive to any variables, so I'm confused. Go with the calculated 600 with 100 grain point or 500 with more point weight? Available shaft length for a given spine value seems to change accordingly. Not sure what to make of that. I suppose it you go too long or too short, spine changes dramatically; so that's why they don't even offer a lighter spine in longer lengths?
Anyway, being a big kid impatient to play with a new toy, I shot the only feather fletched arrow I could lay my hands on (some carbon 340 with tired 5" shield feathers) and while it was quite the log, it still flew much better than expected; though it did eat the shelf pad in short order. Once the propers arrows are found, this thing could be a lot of fun!
If anyone has some knowledge of the centershot specs or perhaps some expert arrow recommendations......PLEASE!!
I shoot a 40# longbow with 31.75 inch Easton Tribute 2016 arrows with a 65 grain point. My draw is 30" too.
Buy a fetching jig and some feathers and refletch your arrows with feathers that's what I did it's cheaper. I just replace the feathers when needed. The fetching jig I bought is called the Arizona e-z fletch and I paid about 55$ it's easy to use and I've saved so much money fletching my arrows myself
Armin, I just got this bow as a 60 pound, and I have a strong arm and there's no way I can pull the string at even half the length you do, without shaking, can you give some advice on this, It feels like the string is too short, even my experienced friends couldn't put weight on it?
Armin, thank you for this test ,I was thinking of purchasing one of these bows for my grandson and myself,
Mic goes on your shirt.
Intro music goes in the bin
I think it would have been a good job to see if the bolts fit the riser before you drilled the limbs.
Dear Sir, Thanks for the info. Imma stick with my red oak/drywall tape monster.
Greetings from Detroit!! Watching your videos made me start archery. Just Got my turkish af archery bow. Love it, but like you said... That handle is way too small lol. Thank you for all the great tips and lessons!
thank you for your kind words and hav fun with your bow :)
It's my understanding the shorter riser with longer limbs gives you a smoother draw.
That drill sequence is 2 thumbs up! I have the same bow at #30, it can shoot really far with 31" carbon arrows.
Hi. Quick question: what Arrows do you use? Mine are cheap Arrows, thinking about get the proper ones to improve. Thanks.
My bolts fit perfectly
Yes, and mine too and they are black.....
Just order from mandarin duck the Mk 2 on 35 Lbs. With extra limbs 55 Lbs. Nice shooting Sir
He pulled out those glasses bro I lost it
There's a very similar bow to this one by AF Archery and that one is at 58". The quality on the ones by AF seems OK at first glance, but I had a limb delaminate on me. I ordered this one just two days ago and hopefully it'll arrive soon. Apparently the BH by Mandarin Duck/Big Rock is a better bow.
It would appear to be a ‘do it yourself’ takedown bow🙄. That would piss me off severely. Cheers, Armin👍😎🇨🇦🏹
I have this bow, literally shot it for the first time today.
It’s made by Junxing, but I got the rebranded “Mandarin Duck” version. Mine cost only £98 (€110.00). Direct from their website.
So far I love it, shoots really nicely for me, didn’t take anytime at all to start hitting golds at 20 yards. I love how light it is and the grip is the nicest grip I’ve used on any bow.
Shocking how the bow in the video wasn’t drilled correctly, I’d be demanding spare limbs from the supplier for that, then I’d drill them out when they probably don’t want them sent back.
I am really wanting to get this bow but I am so paranoid about the holes being too small haha, i think it looks so nice in with the blue wooden finish.
Mandarin Duck have a MK11 model. I had no problem at all.
Nice, I bought one with #45 long bow limbs
Hello,
What about the string?
Is it fast flight or dacron?
It's a nice bow for price but string need to be upgraded....
Sorry for my English....
Looks like my bow except I shoot left-handed 45 pound, mine is a Martin Willow left-handed bow 45 pounds I shoot30 inch and 33 inch .arrows is that the right arrows to shoot, USA Tennessee Prepper smoky mountains Tennessee good video God bless you.
Just ordered longbow version👍
Your fingers must be tough as nails.
No glove or finger tab. 😉
Ive tried without glove or tab and it hurts a lot. 😊
You have to practice. My dad never uses a tab or glove.
Hi Armin,
I like your channel very much. I'm a beginner and looking for a cheap bow. I have a draw of 33". Could you recommend a bow? Thank you for helping!
Yarha by Alibow does 35" and is 160 USD
How do you figure out your draw?
Junxing F171 :)
What Spine of arrow should you use for this bow? i was thinking of getting the 40 pound draw
ive got 3 black hunters, 2 recurve one longbow, ive never had trouble w/ the bolts, and i dont care for the chrome bolts
I just ordered 60# one. And afraid because it is cheap, and rather strong, wont it crack? It is the original brand, Obert, there are a lot of other simmilar chineese stuff. Hope it will life long
@David Munir on ebay, the seller is from china, but in description it was said that it is obert, it is original brand of it. I hope it is true. Idk if it is still avaible. There was something on aliexpress too. I am from poland. If you are from usa, i think ypu can get better bows in that money but i am not a master of it
Savage.
Ha! Chrony switches back to miles per year 😁 So it was shooting around 1,070,000 mpy. Sounds pretty impressive! 😉
Thats what I heard too. MPY is my preferred unit of measurement
I have the identical bow from Mandarin Duck with 45 and 55 pound limbs. I shoot the 55 pound limbs now, after shooting the 45's for two weeks.
How many shoot's can you make before getting tired? With 55 lbs limbs?
@@ghecot4576 When I'm in shape, 200 a day for 5 days straight. Out of shape, I get tired at about 75 to 100 shots, and have to build up endurance, which takes about a week. I didn't shoot that bow all winter so I have some work cut out for myself
@@ElkArrow that's amazing, just curious, your age and weight, im doing sports ,but never shoot a bow, still want to start from 50 lbs.
That's why am asking all this info , to understand if I'll get used to 50 lbs in few months.
@@ghecot4576 I'm over 50 and weigh over 180 lbs
Drilling holes in limbs to make a new bow fit . That would suck.The string that comes with it looks like a rope.They sale for around 100 bucks.
I was kinda gobsmacked to discover that these bows are all manufactured in the same Chinese factory and some had the Mandarin Duck logo emblazoned on them and sold for $150 and others unmarked sold on Amazon and Wish for $70-$80. Pays to wait and observe.
Quality control can vary from distributors though.
Então e um mesmo arco fabricado por várias empresas? Qual e a original? A melhor ?
Armin! have you seen this bow with reflex/deflex limbs! You can go from rcurve to longbow with the same riser and a new string. Might be a bit more quiet...idk
Have you ever reviewed korean traditional bow - gakgung? What do you think?
Searched all over cant buy these in South Africa, pity...... unless somebody here has one.....
I bought the Black Hunter about 3 years ago. I have 30 and 40 # limbs. What is the recommended brace height? Is it the same for both limb sets? Thanks, Chet
The look on your face at 3:42 says it all, lol. That's the main reason why it really is awful that physical brick and mortar stores are disappearing.
That was funny, but look at his expression at 18:26 ......
I hve 2 of these a 45lb and a 40lb. Pretty good shooters for the price!!
I have the same bow, with the reflex deflex hybrid limbs. It is a fantastic bow to shoot for the money, incredibly easy.
Mine is branded a Big Rock Black Hunter, and came from Lancaster Archery.
Twig Archery has a video on here about the limbs and limb bolts, and a workaround.
Oh, and the riser is 'actionwood'.
I highly recommend this bow, and everyone who shoots it is always impressed.
Hutchie 2112 The riser isn't a actionwood, it's diamondwood.
Whatever, they are the same thing, other than that diamondwood is resin impregnated
Hutchie 2112 i have two bows
bought mine from Mandarin duck for$129 free ship
yes on the strings but limb cores are maple, twig archery has the bamboo
Nice shot
Is mandarin duck and junxing the same ?
I think they do private lane, means many companies have the same bow with a different name
My range buddy got one for himself last year. It stacked really hard. It was a 35 pounder but felt like a strained 40 pound bow at 28". Did yours stack at all? I dont recall him mentioning anything about incorrectly sized bilt holes though
No stacking. There are several same looking bows out right now. So maybe it was not the same... the one I tested had 45#
I think they fixed the issue with the screws now.
I bought this bow and the riser broke at the pivot point the first time I drew it.
Boa tarde? Esse e o arco original? Se não for, qual empresa o criou?
thanks a lot. I want to buy one but i have to buy also arrows. Pleas how long are the arrows? because i found many types and longs on Amazon. Do you advice me of a particular type? thanks in advance
I like to shoot carbon arrows with it 29 to 30 inches long. Spine depends on the #of the bow
FYI, I did not have to drill my bow limbs
How does this bow compare to the Spyder XL? Anyone shot both? Does it stack at all at 30" draw?
After drilling the limbs he figured out that the riser also has nuts for the smaller diameter :'D
Nope did not, was a common thing with some of the bows from this company. But thanks for a useful comment :D
Greetings from Wisconsin USA;
In 2020, I looked up the bow on Amazon and several of the reviews say that after a few hundred shots the limbs or the string break down or sometimes both. All the reviews say the bow is great when new except some had the same problem with the holes being too small. Do you still have the bow and does it still function well? I really like the look of the bow and would love one, if I can trust that it will hold up well. Oh, you measured the riser length, but even the closed captions couldn't pick up how long it was. How long was it?
@@SymbiosisAndre Thanks for your input sir.
@@SymbiosisAndre Thanks again my friend.
Did you end up getting the black hunter? I've held off for the same reasons -- due to the multiple reviews of the bow splitting and the string breaking. It's such a good looking bow with seemingly a lot of potential, but I'm not interested in throwing away my money or smacking myself in the face on the draw...
@@SymbiosisAndre thank you for the quick reply. Which manufacturer did you purchase through? The black hunter is sold through several companies, but there seems to be a correlation between quality and the seller. For example, Obert, one such seller, has SEVERAL reviews claiming limb and string breakage. Also, what bow length did you go with, 58" or 60"?
@@SymbiosisAndre thanks, but which manufacturer? Obert, Mandarin Duck, Samick Safe, SinoArt? There's a bunch of companies rebranding the product.
Dear @Armin Hirmer thanks for the vis ;D I just tried out the Bearpaw Mohican 30 and 35 lbs and a Bearpow Mohawk Bow or so (in the 699EUR range) in a local shop in Berlin, Germany. Sadly in Germany it is quite hard to try out bows such as Black hunter from Jiungxing (sold via Mandarin Duck) or so. But what would you say, the very price-cheap black hunter bow vs bearpaw Mohican bows ? Also, @everyone I can draw easily 30/35lbs and hold it for 30 seconds without chaking or so. Currently I am quite weak due to an accident receovery. But I rather would like to advance quickly and train myself in form for 45lbs (my old favorite draw weight from ten years ago). But to "start again". What do you think? Bearpaw or Mandarin Duck and 35lbs or train to 40lbs
Take a cheap one in low poundage now.and upgrade later to something better and higher poundage
Does anyone know how the Black Hunter compares to the Bearpaw Mohican?
I meant to say 5/16 inch bolts. My bad.
i still like the turkish bows by design more and it's much smaller
I always wanted to try a turkish bow.
I got a Martin Wilson 45 pound left-hand bow and I love it but it’s hard to find a left-hand curve bow so I’m trying a Korean 45 pound horse boat what length of arrows should I use in the Martin Wilson 45 pound left-hand Bow and the horse bow my pull is about 28 inches thanks USA tennis a prepper smoky mountains Tennessee love your videos thanks again,🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
What's your price range? The Phantom by Mandarin duck isn't bad but you're going to want to silence it little bit of cotton you can go watch the survival Lilly on a how to so that. Personally I don't like modern materials in a bow but if you're a prepper I'm assuming you're going to want fiberglass either way they tend to have a pretty good stock of left hand bows
And either way their hand-stitched Quivers are exquisite some of the rest of their accessories
Hey Armin, i have the 40lbs of the same bow, what arrow spine would you recommend me?
My draw 26 and 1/2
draw weight is about 38#
I would go with 600 and leave them twenty eight inches long
Hello, just curious if u can put a pin sight o this bow?
It's nice bow I just bought the same one 😊
Hi Sir, may I know is this bow a bare bow or hunting bow, are there any differences between bare bow and hunting bow? Thank you in advance
Yes and no. Barebows are commonly takedown recurves where you simply remove aiming devices I guess. Hunting bow can be almost every bow
@@ArminHirmer thank you Sir
the bow costs about 110 €/$ on the official website. mine is on the way in 40#
Mine too ....
I bought this bow, thanks for your review, what type of spine did you use?
600
Thanks for the review Armin, I have a 30# and 40# on order for my son and myself. Any recommendations on arrows for target shooting?
nice carbons with 600 spine
Thanks Armin i'll pick up some victory sport 600's and have a go at making them up. Cant fault Mandarin Duck Outfitters for service. Ordered the 2 bows on the 16 of March, Shipped the same day with an EDD of 3 April to 15 May and they were delivered today 26 March to inland Queensland Australia, amazing.
Hello again Armin, the string supplied is Dacron, do you think this bow can handle fastlight or BCY type strings?
Hi , do you think it's a good bow for 180cm height archer with 29" reach?
Sure
@@ArminHirmer thanks
Gostaria de adquirir um Black Hunter (Aliexpress), mas são tantos fornecedores (qualidades) que não sei qual escolher. Alguém poderia me indicar, por experiência ?
regarding the limb, doesn't indicate which one for the top and bottom, help please.
They limbs are cut to match the riser if you line up the top limb on the bottom of the riser you should be able to tell it doesnt line up. and the bottom limb should have writing on it.
Boy, that was funny ..... by the way manufacturer has in spec. that draw length is 30" and not 28" what they are saying all over internet.... I just ordered mine .....
Thanks for posting....
30" max they mean. Poundage still measured for 28"
@@desertrainfrog1691 Yes, of course...
May I ask, what is the weight of the riser? Thank you.
I dont have this bow anymore, I cant tell. sorry
Thank you.
I just checked: 622 gram.
So it´s quite massive for a 15" riser. Looks small, but feels... solid.
Thank you!
Made on a Friday
Does anyone know if an identical bow under a different brand can be purchased on Aliexpress?
Many
why u have iranian name? Armin?
Need to ask my father, he choose my name
@@ArminHirmer you lucky it is a great name: Ar means light, which is Iran! arrow, army, archery, arms all these words come from an unforgotten ancient Iranian believe mindset!
Awesome.
@@TheRostami even in ancient germanic language AR means light and MIN means sea :)
Your audio got you sounding like Milton from Office Space..
Claude Van Damme, is that you?
Hey mate, fantastic video! I really got alot out of it :) I have the phantom at 35# would you have any idea where I can get a new string for it?
Also do you have videos on finding the brace height? Cheers in advance ^^
-Tyler
Look up the string length on the bow's website or go look for string in 3rivers or Amazon. If they ask for bow length, give 56 as that's how long the manufacturer says the bow is
Thank you kindly :)
is that the 60lbs version?
I think it had 45#
Would one at 45lbs be good?
Depends on you. Beginner better not so much #
🇧🇷✔️!!
U freak me out how u carelessly drilled that hole. Straight in straight out!!! is the rule.
Any I hope this bow works for u. I cannot hear your voice for some reason
well, then the company should have done a better job, when they send me a bow for a review. Bow works fine, I know how to drill as it seems. And regarding audio, I mentioned that in the description: First of all SORRY for bad audio in the first part of the video - my audio files got lost, so I had to use in camera audio...
I would drill on press....and little countersink first (shave the edge ) to avoid splinters around the edge... ....
I drill em by eyeball and it works fine. I've been building bows since a kid. And u gotta fuck it up bad before it matters.
hey! whats the draw weight of the bow you are testing?
45#
Hey Armin, i have the 40lbs of the same bow, what arrows would you recommend me?
Hi Armin.
What arrows would you recomend for the black hunter 60" with 50lbs - 28" draw..?
Hi. Heavy Hunter from Bearpaw (or similar) 400 spine, tip 85 or 100
You should watch reviews for microphones.
Or the commenter reads first the description where I apologize for the bad audio :)
14.51 45#28" recurve bow with 320grain arrow and just 180-185fps?
180 fps is not slow and the bow appeared to be a stable shooter which enhances accuracy .
I want This One
what s the max drawlenght? where does it stack?
60# and no stacking on mine at 29 inch draw cracking bow but get the bamboo core limbs apprently the new German made maple limbs are very bad and have read a lot of horror stories of the maple limbs
you should invest in a lapel mic. i have a hard time hearing you.