Anybody else remember being a kid and having no fear trying to do a wheelie? I miss the days of riding around the neighborhood on only the back wheel lol
Wheelies are no problem at all for me to pull ,even go over pivot point ,I know il recover ,but manuals... They are sketchier as you are extended backwards, so if you mess up, you are likely getting hurt
They're good for training your mind to "relax" in the initial steps of getting used to the feeling of pulling the bike backwards into position. When learning anything new for the first time that has an element of danger, your brain's "safety protocols" will always be on high until it's comfortable with whatever maneuver you're doing.
@@Coastal_Cruzer I can’t see this buckling the mountain bike wheels I’ve seen. Maybe it would but those things are stout. A commuter or road bike wheel? Yeah I could see that. I wouldn’t trust the wheel on the bike I have now on this but my childhood bike and the one I had as a young adult were mountain bikes and went through a lot that a bike should never have to go through lol.
Its one thing to ride on the wheel properly its another to bend the rim sideways with force they only strong with pressure pushinf down on the tire not from stress tweakimg it sideways...
It's not the same as doing a manual. You need rotation, the faster you go the easier it is. It's hard to get your head round it. Get your wheelie game on and find that sweet spot then hover your ass off the seat. And be quick on that back brake
yea they don't really translate to being in motion very well. but it is good for getting that muscle memory where you need to be to start lifting that front tire. you can see it in here face when she finds that sweet spot. That feeling is now locked into her mind. that alone is worth building one of these. Now she just needs to learn to not hug the frame with her knees and open up or she'll just be falling over sideways every time.. Also she needs to load up better before the motion back. I'm sure she'll learn that when the training wheels are off. But after watching the video a few more times.. Eh, she's developing bad habits if she continues using this the way she is. you can see at the end she mashes the brake to keep her from over rotating.. It also prevented her from falling back forward for a breif moment. yea she'll faceplant if she does that in motion.
They’re good for people who have a hard time know how much strength is needed to get the front wheel up to the balance point. But other than that yeah need to get out on the road and throw down some sick manuals to get a real feel for it
can't hurt. at least not for a beginner. I might build my 6 year old one to have in the garage this winter but there is so much more that goes into getting good at manualing. Balance, pumping your legs, micro adjustments with the pedals and brakes. Good luck!
just do it on a crappy old bike if you can do it on an old 20inch bmx...with no chain...that will get you to the next level. its more about getting over the fear. then remember which brake level to hit when you do a real one and not land on your a$$. endos....are harder.
Super awesome! Good job! May I give some pointers? Make sure you preload that front end before pushing back. Also, keepp those heels pointing downward to promote that weight shift.. You can see the very second your toes start pointing down, your center of mass follows it foreward. Also, keep your head up, dont watch your front tire. And careful with that rear brake, you want to feather it. Don't get in the habit of mashing the brake on the trainer. I would rather see you master the art of bailing out from over rotating first. You're doing awesome, a few more hours of practice and you'll be manualing everywhere. Plus its a fundamental skill to mtb so hell yea!
I think it could help get your balance, being comfortable and confident , but while accelerating and maintaining a constant speed would be the only difference. But I think it would help.
Seems like a good step 1 you can learn starting position, getting the wheel up. Lean back arms straight keep your head up. Good for a couple sessions then you got to take it to the streets. This can definitely give you a confidence boost to advance.
My experience is that they don't translate. I have built 2 manual machines (for BMX then mountain bike), on both I could "manual" for 60 seconds, super tiring! But, could I manual down the road? No! Not even for one second. I ditched the MM approach and have since spent hours (& hours!) practicing on the bike. I can now do about 30 meters....
The training and balance is def a plus. When you are rolling it all becomes easier but that trainer aspect will give your body memory for the responses. I'd put a limit bungie or strap on the front so you don't rotate of the back cuz that is no fun.
i think the best way to wheelie or manuel is to first know how to do a wheelie as in a sit down peddling wheelie then get slower and slower till your sitting down and not peddling anymore just use the break on the balance point then start practicing manuals going slow on a small grass hill. in no time at all you will be straight into a wheelie down a hill to standing sitting manuals all the way down and will feel natural
@@saltybmxer6977 how so good Sir. I personally learned to do it on the trailway before I learned on the trainer. That being said, I think it's a great solution to getting your hips where they need to be. To be honest, the trainer help me with bunny hops.
@@matthewortiz8737 any chance you live in Southern California? If so I’ll go ride with you and teach you how to manual. Barry Nobles has one of the best manual videos I have seen. He talks a lot about the stuff I teach.
I would tie a piece of loose rope around the front spokes and attach that to the front base board at a specific length, just in case you lean too far back
Ditch the back wheel and mount the bike to the frame with a big bolt through the rear axel? You could put a stopper block on so the bike can't go backwards too far aswell
Take the back wall off, do that with pure break and no wall for your back tire to lean on, you have something giving you back pressure thats not there when your doing a normal wheelie
@@erik....do u even know why? no? then stfu maybe theres a reason like not relying on pressing down on the pedals like in a wheelie btw there has to be a strap holding the front wheel now go cry
@@Alex-ye2hh I used these manual trainers to learn to manual, removing the chain makes it so u can’t push on the pedals to keep yourself back and not using the rear brake makes it much more realistic too.
Come on guys, give the bent rim comments a rest. She's not the first to use a manual machine / trainer and not the last and not many tears are there over bent rear rims.
You shift your weight on a manual, you feather the brake on a wheelie, there's a difference You're pedaling with the wheelie so no limit on distance, the manual distance is limited by your speed and momentum because you're coasting, if you work the brake you're cutting your distance short Learn by hopping a curb and coasting as long as possible, preferably a slight downhill slope, try not to touch the brake unless you're going over backwards and learn to shift your weight at the knees forward and back
You want to have your seat higher up so you can sit in it while you pedal instead of having to stand that way your more stable it will be easier to stay still and you can lean forward or backwards while sitting in the seat to control your back and forth balance but right before you pull up to do the wheel scoot a little bit forward on your seat lean forward towards your bars the swiftly lean back and sit towards the back of the bike seat when you pull up to pop the wheel it’s easier to find your balance point when sitting down but I think it’s good to learn standing wheelies before your learn to do them sitting down then it’s easier to go farther and stay Up
There are places that actually charge a lot of cash for people to learn wheelies and other balance points on dirtbikes. So yup. It works. Nice bare bones setup, it's just lacking 2 main components.. 1 a tether for the front wheel - to keep the bike from looping out backwards and 2 would be a safety-back-stop for the rider - again, to prevent loop outs and rear summersaults while hoping the bike also doesn't land on you. haha
As a Expert in 40 mph manuals down steep hills,there is no other way than to build up slowly with confidence and speed,confidence in your back brake too,your bike has to be in optimum condition, and it must be a day with little to no wind.
Not sure its a great way to represent a static manual bc when you're doing a manual on a rolling bike you also have to manage the front to back instability and maybe deal with the momentum of the speed
If you can hold for 5 seconds on that then you can absolutely catch a 30 second manual on flat ground. Your forward momentum greatly increases the ability to balance.
I have a ninja brand one that makes you balance side to side aswell. They will not teach you how to manual. But it will decrease the time it takes to learn how to if you use this aswell.
@martin5561 its a simple matter of finding your center. Whether your on 1 wheel or 2 its the same concept. I drop into the half pipe on a unicycle. I think I know a little about balance bud.
Мануальная терапия на дому)) На самом деле и это эффективно, потому, что ноги очень устают в таком положенти, происходит зажим и ты не можешь ногами балансировать. Потому имеет смысл приучать ноги к этой статтчесой нагрузке
Not really effective cause the cranks get stuck on the cassette and don't move freely, also you can't practice using the brake. Rolling is so much different, as you have to learn to balance side to side, and you can also use the front wheel to balance/steer. That lumber is better off used to make a bike stand for working on the bike, in my honest opinion.
Tou need to have a rope or somthing attacked to tour front wheel to stop you from falling over the back and help to make u feel more confident leaning back
Excellent tool for dealing with those pesky rims that are running straight and true.
EXACTLY.
@enriqueamaya3883the next door neighbor fills me up plenty.
@enriqueamaya3883what's with the mf but there hey?
@enriqueamaya3883JC gave me a handy 😢
If this bends your mtbs rims, you got a cardboard bike 😂
Anybody else remember being a kid and having no fear trying to do a wheelie? I miss the days of riding around the neighborhood on only the back wheel lol
@@Carah-qk3nz /WHOOSH
Yeah they attribute a lot of that fearlessness to lead exposure in paint and gasoline.
Wheelies are no problem at all for me to pull ,even go over pivot point ,I know il recover ,but manuals... They are sketchier as you are extended backwards, so if you mess up, you are likely getting hurt
I remember we used to swap out the front tire of our bikes for scooter wheels/tires so you were cruising around with the front super low lol
why'd you stop get back on that back wheel.!!!
They're good for training your mind to "relax" in the initial steps of getting used to the feeling of pulling the bike backwards into position.
When learning anything new for the first time that has an element of danger, your brain's "safety protocols" will always be on high until it's comfortable with whatever maneuver you're doing.
succinct and concise. helpful comment thanks
While that is true this is still a really good way to fold your wheel
You just described a fleshlight for back wheel control... Heyoooo ... 🥸
@@Coastal_Cruzer I can’t see this buckling the mountain bike wheels I’ve seen. Maybe it would but those things are stout. A commuter or road bike wheel? Yeah I could see that. I wouldn’t trust the wheel on the bike I have now on this but my childhood bike and the one I had as a young adult were mountain bikes and went through a lot that a bike should never have to go through lol.
Do you build or buy? Looks simple enough to build but time does stop for anything.
Good way to fold your rear wheel in half😂
Nah just don't buy cheap rims
If your rim folds from that then you gotta cut down on the donuts bud
I never considered that, but how much lateral load would it take to tweak it? In this rig, it could be very different to being on the trail.
Its one thing to ride on the wheel properly its another to bend the rim sideways with force they only strong with pressure pushinf down on the tire not from stress tweakimg it sideways...
@@jimmy5860jimyou didn’t think this through did you?
It's not the same as doing a manual. You need rotation, the faster you go the easier it is. It's hard to get your head round it. Get your wheelie game on and find that sweet spot then hover your ass off the seat. And be quick on that back brake
yea they don't really translate to being in motion very well. but it is good for getting that muscle memory where you need to be to start lifting that front tire. you can see it in here face when she finds that sweet spot. That feeling is now locked into her mind. that alone is worth building one of these. Now she just needs to learn to not hug the frame with her knees and open up or she'll just be falling over sideways every time.. Also she needs to load up better before the motion back. I'm sure she'll learn that when the training wheels are off.
But after watching the video a few more times.. Eh, she's developing bad habits if she continues using this the way she is. you can see at the end she mashes the brake to keep her from over rotating.. It also prevented her from falling back forward for a breif moment. yea she'll faceplant if she does that in motion.
They’re good for people who have a hard time know how much strength is needed to get the front wheel up to the balance point. But other than that yeah need to get out on the road and throw down some sick manuals to get a real feel for it
@despayeetowo880 no, but it’s a easy way to learn balance point
Thanks
Keep me updated
can't hurt. at least not for a beginner. I might build my 6 year old one to have in the garage this winter but there is so much more that goes into getting good at manualing. Balance, pumping your legs, micro adjustments with the pedals and brakes. Good luck!
@@Supermoneygang12 how can it mess with your muscle memory? Wheel, maybe if you have shit wheels
It does help to use mannie stand as long as you don't use brake.👍👍
Also need to take the chain off so you don’t use pedal pressure
When you go to school for engineering but you fail physics
Yeah but she passed sex education lol
😂😂😂 Dude….
What a unique frame! I raced for them when they explored BMX frames!
What bike is that
They work better if you have your chain off but the problem with them is you are not moving but they do help to just understand the concept better
just do it on a crappy old bike if you can do it on an old 20inch bmx...with no chain...that will get you to the next level. its more about getting over the fear. then remember which brake level to hit when you do a real one and not land on your a$$. endos....are harder.
Super awesome! Good job! May I give some pointers? Make sure you preload that front end before pushing back. Also, keepp those heels pointing downward to promote that weight shift.. You can see the very second your toes start pointing down, your center of mass follows it foreward. Also, keep your head up, dont watch your front tire. And careful with that rear brake, you want to feather it. Don't get in the habit of mashing the brake on the trainer. I would rather see you master the art of bailing out from over rotating first. You're doing awesome, a few more hours of practice and you'll be manualing everywhere. Plus its a fundamental skill to mtb so hell yea!
I’d feel much better falling backwards on the flat ground than that wooden post driving into my spine
😂😂😂
That’s why you kick both feet out and they’ll catch you before that wood post. And some say keep the seat low but idk about that one.
You progressing Kara😎 I've seen your kicker jump at phoenix park that was no joke🤙🔥💯 Keep going girl
Not as long as the chain is on. It's easy to hold yourself up with chain tension.
But the rear wheel isn't fully locked in place. Had she been using the tension of the chain to maintain balance she'd of started riding off already.😂
@@Jr_live23 You can have tension without having enough force to ride off.
@@beno9966 you can, but not with this setup
@@Jr_live23*she’d have
I think it could help get your balance, being comfortable and confident , but while accelerating and maintaining a constant speed would be the only difference. But I think it would help.
It’s a great way to practice if personally feel better if there was a strap in the front to limit how far back it could go
Seems like a good step 1 you can learn starting position, getting the wheel up. Lean back arms straight keep your head up. Good for a couple sessions then you got to take it to the streets. This can definitely give you a confidence boost to advance.
The seatpost gives the feeling of heaven 💀💀
Muito Talento! Continue firme nos treinos. No pain. NO GAIN!
Back tire alignments has left the chat
Since when is tire alignment a thing?
Wheels for sure, tyres: no
@@project182r3i think he means wheel
Not if you have good wheels
Its a bike. Not a motorcycle or a car😂😂
@@kasewilliams6848you can still bend the rim
I’d like to see the progression of someone learning manuals on a manual machine, then attempting them while riding.
My experience is that they don't translate. I have built 2 manual machines (for BMX then mountain bike), on both I could "manual" for 60 seconds, super tiring! But, could I manual down the road? No! Not even for one second. I ditched the MM approach and have since spent hours (& hours!) practicing on the bike. I can now do about 30 meters....
I thought that was a rim bender to be bend your rim back after crashing😂😂😂
Share that blue print map. Loved it!
Cheer~~~relating to or done with the hands.😊
Whilst moving is a bit different but I guess this would help with the initial feel of leaning back and weight distribution
The training and balance is def a plus. When you are rolling it all becomes easier but that trainer aspect will give your body memory for the responses.
I'd put a limit bungie or strap on the front so you don't rotate of the back cuz that is no fun.
My half titanium leg can confirm, it’s no fun)
i think the best way to wheelie or manuel is to first know how to do a wheelie as in a sit down peddling wheelie then get slower and slower till your sitting down and not peddling anymore just use the break on the balance point then start practicing manuals going slow on a small grass hill. in no time at all you will be straight into a wheelie down a hill to standing sitting manuals all the way down and will feel natural
They totally do! It was one of the funnest projects that were super easy to do for me
You couldn’t be more wrong.
@@saltybmxer6977 how so good Sir. I personally learned to do it on the trailway before I learned on the trainer. That being said, I think it's a great solution to getting your hips where they need to be. To be honest, the trainer help me with bunny hops.
@@matthewortiz8737 any chance you live in Southern California? If so I’ll go ride with you and teach you how to manual. Barry Nobles has one of the best manual videos I have seen. He talks a lot about the stuff I teach.
It's good to break the fear barrier. Once you have more confidence pulling up high enough, it will only hold you back.
Looks like a great way to warp your rim.
😂😂😂😂😂 you obviously don’t ride. That’s a dirt mtb. So these rims can be jump over 50ft plus gaps. But this will warp it. Stfu 😂😂😂😂😂
True...........
Lmao someone's got a walmart bike
@jurekgadzinowski2895 yeah because it's impossible to warp the rim on a high end bike, right?
@@mrmurder75 No, but how much do you have to weight to warp a rim on this? 200kg? 250?
I would tie a piece of loose rope around the front spokes and attach that to the front base board at a specific length, just in case you lean too far back
That bike is sick!!!
How to get the Purple canyon one and the blue Santa cruz
Ditch the back wheel and mount the bike to the frame with a big bolt through the rear axel? You could put a stopper block on so the bike can't go backwards too far aswell
Nah no rollong gravitational feel to the rear, the block of wood easily supporting the wheel like a lockout not to flip right back
Take the back wall off, do that with pure break and no wall for your back tire to lean on, you have something giving you back pressure thats not there when your doing a normal wheelie
start with your pedal at the top. bring your chest lower for when you lean back and then straighten your arms more, its a better habit
Spokes and rim love it
Use an old bike or old wheels but yeah, don't expect them to be straight after a few good sessions of this.
Yes they do. Like the foam pits of manuals. Allows you to practice and get good without damaging yourself or more importantly your shred piece
Best way to buckle your wheel on the first go
Take the chain off and no brakes
Why?
@@rohitchanda8461 he enjoys watching women get hurt.
@@erik....do u even know why? no? then stfu maybe theres a reason like not relying on pressing down on the pedals like in a wheelie btw there has to be a strap holding the front wheel now go cry
That would literally change nothing except for the bike having no chain or brakes
@@Alex-ye2hh I used these manual trainers to learn to manual, removing the chain makes it so u can’t push on the pedals to keep yourself back and not using the rear brake makes it much more realistic too.
The last one the bike would have lifted right up real world
Come on guys, give the bent rim comments a rest. She's not the first to use a manual machine / trainer and not the last and not many tears are there over bent rear rims.
You shift your weight on a manual, you feather the brake on a wheelie, there's a difference
You're pedaling with the wheelie so no limit on distance, the manual distance is limited by your speed and momentum because you're coasting, if you work the brake you're cutting your distance short
Learn by hopping a curb and coasting as long as possible, preferably a slight downhill slope, try not to touch the brake unless you're going over backwards and learn to shift your weight at the knees forward and back
Looks like Kelly Ripa practicing her wheelie skills.
You want to have your seat higher up so you can sit in it while you pedal instead of having to stand that way your more stable it will be easier to stay still and you can lean forward or backwards while sitting in the seat to control your back and forth balance but right before you pull up to do the wheel scoot a little bit forward on your seat lean forward towards your bars the swiftly lean back and sit towards the back of the bike seat when you pull up to pop the wheel it’s easier to find your balance point when sitting down but I think it’s good to learn standing wheelies before your learn to do them sitting down then it’s easier to go farther and stay Up
You will train your muscles doing that. Simply riding every day will also do this.
Boy doing this in addition I think this helps to remember the required strength better and being less scared to fall over maybe
Put your seat all the way up and keep your arms and shoulders in a box position when you pull
Man I think that might help cause I ve never been good with the whole balance thing
There are places that actually charge a lot of cash for people to learn wheelies and other balance points on dirtbikes. So yup. It works. Nice bare bones setup, it's just lacking 2 main components.. 1 a tether for the front wheel - to keep the bike from looping out backwards and 2 would be a safety-back-stop for the rider - again, to prevent loop outs and rear summersaults while hoping the bike also doesn't land on you. haha
dont look down always look infront of you bc if u look down it shifts the weight down
As a Expert in 40 mph manuals down steep hills,there is no other way than to build up slowly with confidence and speed,confidence in your back brake too,your bike has to be in optimum condition, and it must be a day with little to no wind.
When you do it the correct way: build one where you can hang on the axis and put a string on the front wheel
Sirve para tener mas confianza al hecharse hacia atras y calcular mejor la potencia que usamos.
Not sure its a great way to represent a static manual bc when you're doing a manual on a rolling bike you also have to manage the front to back instability and maybe deal with the momentum of the speed
I like riding on bent rims too!
A good way to train yourself !.😉👍
Las patas laterales no deben existir ppr dos motivos. Primero para aprender tambien equilibrio lateral y segundo para no destruir la rueda trasera
What frame is that my friend
For a mtb wheelie/manual push down on the front and the bounce back would help u lift higher, I also recommend to do this while moving not on this
U dum dum
Better to bail if you go sideways to save the rims
Now u have to straighten ur rear wheel again. Tentioning the spokes.
Good way to bend your rear triangle
I nailed it, till a friend of mine told me to ditch the chain 😅
I puckled my rear wheel on one those machines but there so good
If you can hold for 5 seconds on that then you can absolutely catch a 30 second manual on flat ground. Your forward momentum greatly increases the ability to balance.
Yo le sacaría el soporte del lateral ya que si te llegas a caer se rompe la rueda 😊
I learned at street spots after busting my ass many times 🤣 but aye now I can manual the whole skatepark or whatever spot I’m at
I have a ninja brand one that makes you balance side to side aswell. They will not teach you how to manual. But it will decrease the time it takes to learn how to if you use this aswell.
This is almost the same exercise as just getting your hop on. Manuel's a whole different level of commitment don't think just do
Bet you do Pedro's and Jose's too
She's training the right muscles group
It helps you get used to the balance point but it's not necessary.
Всё продумано до мелочей😁👍
Wouldnt this be less Safe?
Where did u get that
Eso lo aprendimos en la pandemia con el tio german wherhann !!
I ride unicycle and this will work in the beginning just to help you get the feel of it. After that you gotta hit the street.
you can manual a unicycle?! holy shit, dude
@martin5561 its a simple matter of finding your center. Whether your on 1 wheel or 2 its the same concept. I drop into the half pipe on a unicycle. I think I know a little about balance bud.
They work ok. Built one for my son.
This weekend I'm going to build 👍
nice way to bend your rim
they kinda works if you take off your chain and don't use rear break to keep yourself up
Please make a video about building this
la meilleur idée de tout les temps. ❤
When you can pull wheelies, pull wheelies! 😊
best way to bend your back wheel
Мануальная терапия на дому)) На самом деле и это эффективно, потому, что ноги очень устают в таком положенти, происходит зажим и ты не можешь ногами балансировать. Потому имеет смысл приучать ноги к этой статтчесой нагрузке
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Good job!!
Thanks!
I would use a bungee cord connected to my front tire
Good job the rear spokes are not built radial or it would all end quickly in tears with a sideways fall
this would be hood to get some muscle memory but itll be different on the street
I must make this one!
Cut the bit of the back and you have a homemade vertical bike stand
Is that what we're calling a "machine" these days?
You can do it if you get A BMX bike
Take the chain off so you can use pedal pressure
I need a Frame Like that I am converting affordable if you're tempting a little more permanent
Helps to remove the chain
Not really effective cause the cranks get stuck on the cassette and don't move freely, also you can't practice using the brake. Rolling is so much different, as you have to learn to balance side to side, and you can also use the front wheel to balance/steer. That lumber is better off used to make a bike stand for working on the bike, in my honest opinion.
Tou need to have a rope or somthing attacked to tour front wheel to stop you from falling over the back and help to make u feel more confident leaning back
She held her brake half way through the last one.