Makhachev vs Volkanovski - Who REALLY Won?
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- True Geordie reacts to the UFC 284 fight between Volkanovski and Makhachev, which controversially saw Makhachev retain his lightweight champion status. Who actually won the fight?
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Wasn’t controversial for me, the rounds were competitive but makhachev won rounds 1 and 4; volkanoski won 3 and 5. So it comes to round 2 both fighters were hurt but makhachev had the take down and controlled the grappling. Makhachev won that round and the fight but volkanoski showed why he is the greatest featherweight of all time.
I gave volk 1 4 and 5 but every round is debatable accept round 5
@@lachlanross1 why would you watch weasels video when you can watch the fight daddy?
@@mee4553 how can volk win round 1, makachev had his back for half the round. And makachev dropped volkanoski.
@@joescott5322 he did didn’t he let me go watch it again i can’t make my mind up man they both turn me on so much it’s hard not to get hard watching it
@@lachlanross1 Why is that an official source? Lol
The fact that where even in a position to talk about if it was a wrong decision shows how good Volk is. Most people expected him to get smoked early and he proved us all wrong. A true all time great 🏆
That's the only reason people think he got robbed
@@Chronikstyles303 he wasn’t robbed but I thought volk won the fight
Yep, everyone deep down expected him to get dumped on his head and choked out deep down. But damn, he completely neutralised the Sambo Wrestling unlike anyone we've ever seen.
@@Chronikstyles303 over 80% analyst scored it makachev so a very small minority actually think Volk won
@@warrengeew nah mate, not true fans of his. We knew he would perform.
Definitely not a robbery and it was the right winner. However, because the fight was so close, some start calling this a robbery. How can any close fight be a robbery? Lol😂 it makes no sense.
Jake Paul was robbed against Tommy Fumbles.
@@ThePrblmKd91Xx Next time watch the actual fight 😂 "Robbed" lol, he clearly got outboxed, he is lucky one judge gave him the fight. It should have been unanimous.
@@jasonborotra4208dont know about being lucky.. cos that fight was really close and volk had the home advantage.. cos the second round was so close.. and fifth ended up being the most dominant round in the whole fight
One thing we can all agree on is Craig Jones had Volk prepared
Not prepared enough to escape the body triangle
@@hmsp7799impossible to say escape, when you have to defend punches and fight the hands while being in that position
He couldn’t escape it because the cage was blocking the side Volk needed to roll to in order to loosen the body lock
Gotta give credit to his wrestling coach as well frank hickman
@Dnomyar Akunawik prepared enough to batter Islam’s face and rock him numerous times
*If Volk upstaged Makhachev on the ground, Makhachev CERTAINLY upstaged Volk on the feet!*
He had the threat of the takedown though. Always throws off aggressive striking due to the risk it causes.
Volk was not off balance. He was caught out of position with a punch to the face.
Literally like every time they get hurt he’s like “oh cause he was probably off balance “ smh 😂
@Revelation you've obviously not fought before 💀💀
@@filthyfrank.5 acting like u know me bro bro 😂 ik how this goes before trust me You sound mad stupid rn 😂 acting like they didn’t get hurt at those times at the fights.. cause they did.. not cause i never fought before, cuz I have… it’s because they did.
@@filthyfrank.5 lol hé said that like 4 times.
@@filthyfrank.5because he’s repeating what Geordie said means he obviously hasn’t fought before interesting
Ufc really need to clarify what control actually gets you in a fight
They do read the rules
Officially speaking damage is most important but even judges don’t know that for some reason
If a fighter controls the back the whole round it up to the other fighter to get hell up and not stay stuck besides his rabbit punches that not winning him the round that why he lost.regardpess if there was no damage .
Too transparent... grey areas suit them so stars get free passes
@@garyrodriguez9053 Agreed, but Makhachev did cause more damage before the take down. Most people just talk about that round as if it was started on the ground.
Every time Volk get hurt he was just off balance......🤣🤣🤣
6:47.. Volk gets taken down, "wow great take down defense from Volkanovski" 😂
It’s clear he wanted Volk to win.
@@kangjhha did you actually watch the fight cause he didn’t get taken down there
@@ThePoss1985 I watched the fight again, now for the 5th time (just for you) ... yes he was taken down but followed it with excellent defense/recovery thereafter .. unless your argument is Volk slipped/chose to take the mat to test his new skillz even more
@@kangjhha he was taken down and swept to stand immediately therefore it isn’t scored a takedown please learn the rule set before trying to argue with me 🤣
Makhachev won 3-2 imo but would love to see the rematch. People also forget in combat sports that if you are taking on the champion of that weight division you have to win decisively to take the belt from the champ. It was a close fight but I'd give Makhachev 1,2 & 4 and Volk 3 & 5.
Round two was very close.
Stop with that narrative lol 🤣😆 🤡 Volk won the fight!😆
You don’t have to win decisively, you just need to win enough rounds. This narrative is why you get so many robberies in boxing it was away to defend crooked judging.
@@joescott5322 I not saying it should be like that. I actually agree with you, a fight should be scored as if both fighter are equal. Unfortunately in combat sports, this often isn’t the case.
@@Whoami1988_ But Volk lost. It was close but he lost.
Look at the slow motion highlight on the 2nd round. It wasn't about balance, Volk himself acknowledged the punch.
Makhachev won the fight, not even a debate. It was close but then 1 vs 1 P4P is supposed to be close. Volk is a total beast though.
This fight was a fucking treat, I'm glad I woke up early Sunday morning to watch it live!
Stayed awake on the sniff to watch this! Was well worth it
Great video but, I don't think Geordie is in a position to comment on it based on watching the highlights? Maybe I'm wording it wrong, but how can you have an informed opinion on a ridiculously close fight based on BT highlights alone?
You can tell Brian watched joe Rogans the fight companion. He’s literally repeating what he said but in a different way 😂
Everyone should watch TheWeasle's breakdowns for controversial decisions. Great UA-camr that understands the current rule set with the knowledge on how to apply it to the fights. Due to the way striking effectiveness is measure, damage>volume, Makhachev just edged it. However P4P-wise, imo, had they been the same size (volk slightly more power), the strikes would've been causing a bigger impact and leading to more rounds for Volk.
Facts.
I watch his vidoes but he was a bit inconsistent to me on this one because usually he would break down the rules on 10-8 rounds further and using the rules round 5 is a 10-8 but he didn’t bother even trying to break that down and just wrote it off as a 10-9 and I think it’s debatable
If judges can give porier and mcgregor 3 a 10-8 for the first round when conor was getting beaten up on the ground then why not score that for round 5 of this fight? Easily could’ve.
Round 5 wasn’t even close to a 10-8.
@@agkizzy5405 it seems you dont know what a 10-8 round looks like...
Even the kick is defended.. bruh got shinned to the head
Most people are sleeping on the fact that Islam's gameplan didn't work, and he found some midfight arrangements to steal the rounds, even though he could have break, but he didn't and still won the fight. No disrespect to Volk tho, he's a beast. Exceeded all expectations. Truly amazing fight between the best of the best!
Did this guy question round 4 as a 10-8 😂😂😂😂
We want rematch!With insane promo!
Need some more in depth ufc content from Brian
Mr Plugg 😂
Leon Edwards won in my humble opinion. Headshot.
10 - 8 are when you dominate a round like knock downs and sub attempts.
Don’t think they do 10,10 rounds in ufc so it all comes down to rd 2
They do but it’s very rare
Makhachev won rounds 1, 2 and 4. Volk won 3 and 5. Just because Volk outstruck him statistically doesn't mean he inflicted more damage and a lot of his strikes weren't effective. When makhachev had his back he was in a finishing position which is always going to win on the judges scorecards over the fighter who is throwing those short punches behind because those aren't effective strikes.
Such a classic this fight is, I was impressed with Islam’s striking and with Volks grappling defence
Is he actually scoring based of a highlights video 😂
Idk if that’s how 10-8s work. You gotta DOMINATE. There’s still some debate even in round 4
Brian looking slimm💯
10-8 is where you completely dominate and it’s not competitive.
Thoughts on McGregor v Chandler on TUF?
Volks cage grabbing was first class
When?
There is no draws in round in the ufc. You can draw the fight but you can’t draw a round
10-8
Is 4 mins on ground
Or knockdown x2
Or knockdown and save by bell
Unfortunately, you can't score a draw round in mma Geordie :(
Round 4 was not a bad spot 😂😂 Geordie you have to understand that’s non effective grappling he’s getting smashed in the face while holding on for dear life …. This isn’t boxing
Alex still lost, cry more
I like you true Geordie but attempting to score the rounds and talk about how you can see a 10-9 either way etc when you’re only watching the highlights is so stupid
Definition of P4P is who wins in the same weight class, both fought at 155, whoever won will be number 1.
It's more like a lineal title, you have to beat the man to be the man.
Think like this, if Fury defeats Usyk at heavyweight in a very close fight, will you say Usyk is the best heavyweight boxer just bcz he was smaller in size compared to Fury and he moves up fight at heavyweight.
If they fight again, I dont think there will be a finish, but I think volk will be more dominant on the feet and maybe edge out a decision victory and then it sets up for a trilogy
7:10 pause
I don't think that there's a 10-10 round scoring in the UFC.
ps
One of the judges gave four rounds...now, I'm not sure who won the fight, but that's bonkers.
10-10 does exist but only in very exceptional circumstances. Usually only when a fight goes to a technical decision does 10-10 scoring start to factor in, its extremely rare in a typical fight that goes the distance. Honestly though, 10-10 should exist anyway for rounds that are too close to call.
I watched it without audio and changed my mind
Alex was 154 half lb
How is round 4 Islam's round? Control time means nothing when your dealing no damage and have no submission attempts and volks dealing lots of damage? Plus if you look at the stats round 5 is definitely a 10-8 for Volkanovski
probably the worst breakdown of a superfight I've ever seen.
I have no real interest in UFC/MMA, always love to hear Brian’s thoughts though!
They should stop giving close rounds to either fighter.
If there isn't a clear winner then give it a draw and move on to the next round.
Takedowns are overrated as well and if absolutely nothing comes out of it, it shouldn't make a difference.
"It looked more impactful, it did not do the damage" - Well dude Volk himself disagrees with you go and checkout his interviews. Now i understand who is feeding casuals.
To paraphrase Apollo Creed: Did won but didn't beat him.
If you want to know what 10-8 rounds look like, then watch Khabib fights.
I think it should have been a draw at least or a split decision for Volk. Both guys did amazing but you can't beat another fellow champion if he finishes the fight beating you down with your signature ground pound. Deffo need to see a rematch
That’s not how MMA works pal. Just because you wanted Volk to win doesn’t mean winning the 5th round wins you the whole fight. Disrespectful take tbh.
What stupid logic 😂
@@evilkhamzat yeah this guy doesnt get that damage is the number one criteria and that’s why it should have been in favor of alex or a draw. Control doesnt even factor into the equation unless all else is equal, which it was not.
Bro watches the highlights to judge fights 💀
Your script talks over Islams killer knee punch combo 6:36
If your judging by ufc criteria you can score a round a draw. You have to give round 2 to someone if your judging this off what you think ufc judges go by
I’m so proud of Volk he proved to the world that he is the PFP best fighter in the world!
You can’t just watch the highlights and let that influence your opinion
People hate to acknowledge the greatness of Dagestani or khabin team but always on edge to celebrate anyone that performed very competitive against them
the crowd were all aussies, they fooled a lot of people that Volk won where he clearly didn't
It's an obvious 49-46 Makhachev
Great wrestling from Volk but how many takedowns he earned himself ? that's right it's zero.
Talking about a draw, you don’t give a draw for a round lol
I'm sorry but you dont get to make a valid assessment on who won by watching the highlights, 6 minutes shown out of 25 is not enough
Joe Rogan felt like Volk won. Glad he was feeling not making a factual statement
Hold on geordie , you didn't watch the fight!!!!!
Rematch 8 rounder would be a beast
Doesn't matter he lose fight in his country 😀😁😁😀😜
We’re in need of a true news
sorry but scoring a fight based on highlight is not valid at all
Really hope volkanovski stays at 155, would be a really good addition to that weight class. What a scrap!
In a fight like this both fighters are winners as they both fought like warriors with their hearts out and both showed why they are p4p best in the world
You cant say it was a robbery but it was very close but not a robbery
I’m so surprised this wasn’t a draw and yan v ankalaev was 😭not saying this should’ve been but this was wayyyy closer than that and it would’ve been reasonable too with all these explanations and arguments on who won..
Can someone tell this guy you can't get a drawn round without a point deduction . And also tell him that u need to dominate the majority of the round and not one minute to get a 10-8 . Thank u
Who ever gives out the most damage should get the most points
Not someone that gets the position and does nothing for 3 minutes but recieve 60 punches in the face
I think it was closer than it looked, but at the time, thought volk won but, the scoring can sometimes show different and I think maybe that happened tonight, it happens alot in Thai boxing, the clear looking winner has actually lost due to points... What a fight though! 👏 rematch will be quality!
Volk didn't win he lost 4-1
@@rambospongebob7572 I would say 3- 2 or a draw would be reasonable... but 4-1, nah..
@@murder13love not even close to a draw
Why is it that Makhachev is not excited about a re-match?????????
10-8 round in ufc is that the fight could have/should have almost been stopped during the round.
Very big brain in this fight, what an encounter! Good analysis Brian cheers
You're gonna judge this fight but not even gonna watch the whole fight? Lol what
You the last person to score a mma fight. You have no idea how the scoring system works.
Draw in my opinion I rewatched in every speed possible
Stick to wwe you clown
You watched in 2x speed?
you are on point with slap fighting heeheh and this fight promotion
The only way u get a definitive finish is if they run it back
You literally can’t score a draw round without a point deduction lmao what
You can give 10-8 rounds so you can give draws vut yeh. Wtf is a draw, 10-10?
Maybe you should've watched the whole fight instead of the highlights
Volkanovski has to be one of the best P4P fighters in history after that performance.
didn't realise losing meant you're the best it must be Opposite Day today
@@mullahgaming9446 If AJ had beaten Usyk, would that make him the boxing P4P number 1 then?
I honestly think it was a draw, they definitely need to run it back
If he wants the P4P, he’s got to move up in weight. He won’t with good reason.
This doesn’t know anyone. How can you argue land twice or thrice on posterior one of ear not big shot. It’s enough to mesh up your equilibrium
That’s not how 10-8s work
I would have loved a draw so much for this. Brilliant fight
The end 😂😂😂😂😂 fucken slap fighting
I agree with you I also gave it a draw. They need to run it back
A draw would've been perfect!
So close! 💪
Nope never
That was NOT a draw
So is he basing his thoughts off of highlights only?
It was about right decision as you need to be more convincing to get decison to take the champ
That’s some guruism right there
That was a very good take on the fight cheers bro
I thought makhakchev won it first time watching
Volk 3-2. Round two is debatable but the end of round 5 leaves an impression.
That is not quite what the 10-9 and 10-8 system means smh. 10-9 is where one fighter wins, even if it’s pretty clear. 10-8 is where I’d a very dominant round, say there is a big knockdown or one fighter is getting beaten up on the ground.
Assessment of a fight based on BT highlights 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
The difference is Volk resume is top 10 top 5
Definitely need to run it back Volk is pound for pound just resume
And Conor v Chandler promotion over this fught
I reckon it was a genuine draw