Jon Jones is Heavyweight King! BUT is he the GOAT?
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- True Geordie reacts to the weekends UFC fight between Jon Jones and Ciryl Gane, which saw Jones win the vacant UFC heavyweight championship.
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Love him or hate him, he is absolutely the greatest fighter to ever walk the planet.
Imagine being his dad 1 of my sons is the best fighter to ever live an my other 2 sons are nfl players
greatest drug cheat to enter the cage
@@StickManVS cry more
@StickManVS Here we go, lol! Do you ever wonder why Usain Bolt has a faster 100m time, naturally, than everyone in history, who has ever taken performance enhancing drugs?
100% he is the greatest fighter.
In terms of accomplishments, they has never been someone as good as Jon. Dude is just a winner no matter what
Mmmmm reckon Reyes beat him. Even Rogan says so and he knows more than you, soft lad
@@gazaroo1865 joe rogan isn’t gonna fuck you 😭😭
Reyes 100% won 3 rounds and easy to argue 4… even his 2 fights before Reyes he struggled and according to people like Joe rogan there is a case he lost those also but being the golden boy of ufc if you don’t sleep him then you won’t win on cards no matter how much you actually dominate the fight like Reyes did.
Name me 3 actual accomplishments that are more than say what khabib did
Don’t name wins against fighters that were way way past their hay day like it’s a accomplishment, (khabib was dominating the best fighters in his division (a much more competitive weight class than light heavy)light heavy Is know to be the least competitive since it’s been a thing, normally people to scared to fight heavyweights.)
@@25pence omg you're bringing khabib into this 💀💀💀💀 fair enough if you say GSP or Dj are the goats instead of Jon but khabib??????
@@AzeemMMA you can’t be considered the greatest if you have lost buddy, the greatest don’t loose hence being the greatest lmao
I’m not his biggest fan but I think it’s clear that he’s the GOAT
the goat cant be taking steroids
Greatest drug abuser
@@JK-hs6ii growup 😅
@@JK-hs6ii they're all taking steroids. Cope
@@josaihaimalkon347 you're the one coping🤫💀
Jones simply the greatest combat athlete of all time. I would put him ahead of Mohammed Ali 🐐 not as a person but just pure combat ability
Pineda>>>>>>>
@@jameskhan5547 not even funny at this point
Jones ain't beating Ali on his feet. Anyway, you're comparing apples to oranges.
Agreed bro
I wouldn't even say Ali is the greatest boxer of all time let alone greatest combat athlete.
Tbh I thought he was bad in those last few fights but the more I think about it the more I feel that yes he needs to be motivated. He had close fights with dc and Gustafson but the 2nd time he fought them he beat them within 2-3 rounds cos he was motivated. Even the Dominic Reyes fight, he knew he was in trouble and last two rounds walked him down. His 1st fight at HW was something new, something dangerous, so he went in a did the job . A motivated jones is almost probably very hard to beat
Lets not do this now. Jones dominated Smith but looked sloppy against Santos and Reyes so it wasn't motivation. He simply didn't look as good, it's that simple.
@@zydrate4069 exactly, Jon Jones is ego driven and strives by be remembered as a goat. He always was and is motivated he just sucked ass those fight and lost the Reyes one (not arguable). Still a good fighter if not the best ever to do it, but a garbage human being and a wive beater nonetheless
@@zydrate4069 I’m just saying in his fight against gane he had a reason not to be stale. I mean how many people have done that to gane in less than 2mins? No one. So let’s just say he did fantastic and leave it at that.1-2 fights ago people said gane next best thing etc
Yeah, in those fights, Jon didn’t train. He used “training camp” only to cut weight
@@zydrate4069 it's not that simple because there are a variety of different reasons why someone doesn't look as good. Although its all speculation by us fans. Only Jon and his coaches really know what was really going on and you can't really trust them to tell the truth
It's funny that now the fight is over "there's harder matchups than Gane" but before everyone was saying Game will give him the most trouble out of all the heavyweights.
Haters stay moving goal-post and making excuses, and now their riding on the hype-train of Heavyweights like Tom Aspinall and Sergei Pavolich who're fighters they didn't even realize existed until Jon destroyed Gane and became Heavyweight champion.
Stay flip-flopping.
I'll save you time...YES, he is the GOAT
I’ll save you even more time… TWO FAILED PED TESTS, HORRIBLE AMBASSADOR OF MMA WITH MULTIPLE ARRESTS, EYE POKED HIS WAY ALL THROUGH HIS CAREER ALONG WITH GROSS FRONT KNEE HYPEREXTENDING KICKS. NO… HE’S NOT THE GOAT. Lol
The word “Great” shouldn’t be used in the same sentence as that POS
I don't think Jones needs to clear the heavyweight division in order to cement him as the GOAT. He is clearly the GOAT. He has been active for so long and has beaten champions after champions. If Jones retire right now, he will be considered the GOAT. The thing about this sports is, the longer you're active, higher the chance of you losing. One split second mistake and your lights can turn off and you'll be lying down flat on the canvas. The fact that Jones has been active for such a long time and have only fought the top guys is just mind blowing.
Nah just have more defenses than Stipe which like 3 or 4...4 Defenses and it's Super undeniable. Plus nobody beat him before....He never even been knocked down.
When it comes to the GOAT convo, it's either Jon or GSP. Maybe you can include prime Silva, DJ, and Gracie, but Jon and GSP's resumes are something else. Now, you can talk about Khabib, but he simply left too early and his level of competition was okay-ish. Jon fought killers after killers. So if you want to discount Jon because of his PED usage, then it's GSP.
so even if he clears a whole hw division he can't be the goat bcz of peds usage?? That's just wrong man everyone used it before usada probably even now but that argument is so dumb
Gsp was juiced up to the max you moran, plus he fought in a less competitive time, ducked the silva fight and got he’s as handed to him by a journey man matt Serra
@@iamtheshadows4916 I think he's the GOAT, but there are folks who don't because of that reason.
@@dutchmadeek7374 Just a word of advice, next time you call someone a moron, make sure you spell that word correctly. Also, I said "if you want to discount his achievement due to positive tests", not "I discount his achievements because of his PED usage, therefore GSP is the GOAT". Learn to understand the difference between the two.
@@Sid00077 I know my fav fighter too but their only argument now are peds like other fighters took peds too but they are nowhere near Him in legacy.
Jon is in a league of his own
I don’t rate him as a human but I rate him as a fighter he is undoubtedly the greatest combat athlete ever in a 1 on 1 fight no one beats him and I can’t wait to see his run at heavyweight hope we get that francis fight at some point
For some people, it will never be enough, but for me he's the Goat.
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Lol he seemed shocked.
Hahahahah fuck sake this got me
He has something more than talent. To adapt to each opponents style is insane.
I think people forget that Ngannou fought Gane with a torn MCL and ACL. He knocked out 4 world level fighters (Dos Santos, Cain, Jarzinho and Blaydes) in a combined total of 2 mins, and then the heavyweight GOAT Stipe in 2 rounds. That's unheard of.
I get people favouring Jones in that fight, but it certainly isn't a foregone conclusion.
One oblique kick from heavyweight jones puts ngannou back in a wheel chair for 3 months lol
@@ngatiwarrior6975and one punch from Ngannou and Jones is unconscious lol. That’s why this is exciting
@@Ron_Swanson that was before Ngannou destroyed his knees, no one has the exact same power/speed in there punches once they blow there knees, his torque is gone.
@@ngatiwarrior6975 Ngannou is a freak of nature though and his power isn’t due to mechanical perfection or technique of the punch, But you’re right and JBJ could just dance around him
It's so cliche but curtis blaydes is the bogeyman of this division imo. Great striking amazing wrestling strong tough guy and will defo test what we're all wanting to see out of jon. Pavlovich as well is a beast if he beats blaydes imo get him a shot. The way he smashed tuivasa and lewis was a wow moment for sure
Jones retiring after stipe
I do expect the stipe fight to be his last fight.. maybe he defends it 4 times to beat stipes HW record but we will have to see, it’s good to have the goat back in the mix! Undisputed! Undeniable! Greatest of all time.
he said he will probably do more fights after stipe depending on how he feels and not just that he said he wants to have a fight every 4 or 5 months not more so yea sergei could be a big test if he beats stipe
He signed a 8 fight contract with the ufc before he returned for this fight
@@edrickgamez7874 yeah but that means nothing pal
This fight is the one that leaves no doubt. There is no debate
The main reason Jon Jones made it look so easy is because Ciryl
Gane was so worried about the takedown he can Implement his game plan and John John just came forward and pressured the action
You're absolutely right if CirylGane would have not worried about a takedown he probably would have been able to implement his game plan. But when you're not a wrestler you are scared of the cake down but do I think if you fights Stipe Miocic
It will be different absolutely. For one they both have high-level wrestling and both have good boxing
@@thetreverpitts he will smoke stipe too, you guys must forget just how good he is because of a "couple" of close fights.
@@magshype Fights he wasn’t even motivated for as well. Along with all the chaos he had in his life at the time.
Greatest drug abuser
john john is me favourite fighter
There’s no argument at this point, he’s not only MMA GOAT but the only unanimously undisputed GOAT in sports history.
If he carries on winning at heavyweight for 2 fights I think he gets the unamiously sport GOAT but not yet.
I hope he beats Stipe and goes back down and gets the light heavy on his way out so he is actually a double champ in writing.
0% chance of him going back down
gretzkey? brady? lmao
Nah.. if tyson beats usyk I would put him as the greatest heavyweight of all time.
Will jones be the greatest heavyweight of all time? Let's watch and see..
At light heavyweight he was amazing but he was insanely juiced up on roides.. can't give him full credit for that reason.
It’s painful for some to hear. JBJ beats the bricks off everyone for 2 generations of fighters while partying and not taking training seriously. GSP and Silva trained hard and both have loses, while Jones’s only loses is a DQ from something that was complete BS. Jon Jones is the greatest mma fighter ever.
I denied he was for ages but you can’t now you just can’t
As Dan Cormier has stated jones walked around at only 220 ish so naturally losing 20lbs was right for him
I think if you put him in a fair fight against anyone in history he comes out on top. He’s the 🐐
Prime stipe Miocic beats him convincingly imo
steroids are not fair
@@sellihoozhun 😂😂😂
@Marie Curie fight, not boxing match.
Undoubtedly the GOAT. Defended the title the most times, never really lost ( that DQ loss was Ref BS ) if and ehen he Beats Stipe ( UFC HW GOAT , beat Ngannou and DC ) there will be absolutely no debate.
He was the GOAT 3 years ago.
Been the goat since he won the LHW title
As a Liverpool fan and ufc fan yesterday was elite
Bro, what are you talking about. Hes already the goat. There's always going to be up a coming fighters and eventually everyone loses
Jones did the opposite of padding his record. Everyone Jones has fought is a legend themselves.
Gane always plays on the outside, that's his game. If this was a standup fight I think he would've eeked out a decision, but this is MMA and heavyweights can't grapple.
True Geordie wants Jon to clear out the heavy weight division to be the goat? That’s insane. Jon has more than 14 title wins already.
It's now 15 titles these guys are never satisfied if he beats Stipe they will find another reason to say he should fight this guy to be the goat
Jon was the goat 5 fights ago
Damn that kick to the nuts was hilarious and somewhat deserved 😂
Jon said he mostly wrestled and he will approach next fights with wrestling and he said that in the fights camp only spared 3 times
He's the GOAT. End of discussion.
No one has a resume remotely close to Jon Jones's.
Yes he is 100% and I've been fortunate enough to watch his whole career
I think someone like Curtis Blaydes is someone who poses a threat based on his size and wrestling ability, that being said though. Jon's IQ is just supreme when it comes to MMA. Him and GSP are up there.
The minute I read that in an interview Gane said he didn't train any wrestling outside of fight camp I knew this Jon's win was more or less cemented in stone.
It’s clear af that he’s the GOAT
I don't understand how khabib is even in same conversation as the top fighters
Jones cemented himself as the goat in this one. Undeniable. Not a great human being for sure, but probably the best we've ever seen in our lifetimes. I do agree with you though, he does need a fight that will test him as the heavy weight division is not really deep. Aspinal would be a good matchup for him, I agree, but I don't think he's ready for Jones YET. Maybe Blades, Pavlovich? Slim pickings indeed.
I don't see Jon fighting much longer and I don't blame him. He is at the point in his career where he only wants big names and their aren't many at heavyweight. I give him 2 more fights. That will be enough to really make that GOAT status untouchable. If he defends it once that's more than GSP when he moved up. Would have been perfect if it could have been Francis,Stipe, and Gane.
At least GSP faced a reigning champion. Jones fought for a vacant belt. And defending it against Stipe at this point isn't going to prove much
The record speaks for itself he’s the goat
The steroid record?
Greatest drug abuser
0-4 or are you missing out the Reyes Gus and Santos losses
@@billychapa3924 no way you thought gus and santos won 😂
Jon would’ve won Gane in a kicking boxing match as well! He’s so damn good everywhere!
Lol no chance jones beats Gane in a kickboxing fight, Ganes striking is the biggest threat to jones hes an undefeated muay thai fighter its obvious jones knew how he would defeat him which was to take him down smother him and get a submission as his ground game and wrestling isnt elite like his striking
@@theultimate1019 Jon beat a lot of elite strikers on the feet that are more technical and even quicker than Gane, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he could do the same with Gane. Plus Gane isnt the biggest threat on the feet for Jon😅 we found that out. I don’t even think he even landed a strike before getting taken down. There’s a lot of fighters in the light heavyweight that did a lot better than Gane.
Jones is the GOAT of MMA. He makes it look soo easy. It always look effortless for him.
I've been saying this for so long about Aspinall. This whole build up people were talking about 'we've never seen the speed in a heavyweight like Gane' while Aspinall is probably slicker and quicker on the feet, tom has a bit to go but that could be the most exciting heavyweight fight in terms of styles
Finally some UFC content from the main man True Geordie!
Quite literally, Jon Jones is the best hand to hand fighter in world history. That is a big statement, but if you think about it:
-He is the top fighter in the best fighting sport in the world, that is Mixed Martial Arts, in the best league of said sport called the UFC, and he is the top heavyweight which is the highest weight class that automatically beats the lower weight classes based on size.
Best video for a while True Geordie, keep it up.
yes hes the GOAT there is literally no valid argument at this point to counter. his outside antics should not factor in.
GSP lost twice and got finished twice. also the resume is good but not a patch on jones
Khabib maybe the most dominant fighter weve seen but he didn't end up fighting that many top 10 guys also didn't do it through generations and only 4 title defences. jon jones has defeated more former champions than khabib has fought top 10 guys
Anderson if he had retired at the correct time would have been in the conversation but he has lost too many fights now to be in the conversation
fedor unfortunately didnt do it in the ufc and has losses on his record
jon accoplishments
15 title defences
longest winning streak
double champ
youngest ever champion
the most talented we have ever seen
never dropped or rocked or had 10-8 round against him
beat 3 generations of fighters
the resume
daniel cormier 2x former hw and lw champ
shogan hua/former champ
machida/ former champ
rampage jackson/ former champ
rashad evans /former champ
glover texiera / former champ
ryan bader / former champ
chael sonnen / former champ
vitor belfort / former champ
gustafson x2
cyryl gane
anthony smith
dominick reyes
brandon vera
thats not even all of them, just off the top of my head
his body of work has no equal
15 title defences? 🤡
HE IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME IN MMA HISTORY DEBATE OVER🗣!!
“There’s tougher matchups than gane” yet you and a bunch of people picked jon to lose. Constantly moving the goalpost.
He doesn’t need to win another fight in his entire career he’s the 🐐 right here tight now there’s literally nobody else that even comes close
Yes,yes he is. as much as brian dosent want to admit it, the debate is over
I'll say this. Jones is the GOAT, but Anderson Sliva is underrated of GOAT status. He had the record for the most title defenses, longest win streak, longest reigning champion in UFC history.
Yeah Anderson had a better run than gsp
@@KyoshiHonor I agree in a lot ways. Does it matter than Anderson Sliva stayed to long and fought well past his Prime. I don't think this diminished his achievements. GSP is a double champ which a big for his resume. It is a good debate who is the GOAT after Jones. GSP was never tested positive for PED like Anderson and even Jones if that matter to people.
@@alexlilano1931 everyone was on something before usada people just dont want to accept this
This man lost the belt 4 times and not once by actually losing a fight 😂 this guy has had numerous lay offs coz of run ins wit the law whilst everyone else training their ass off and staying in shape and dismantled practically everyone with ease he’s dominated 2 eras he had a 3 year lay off and absolutely tore apart a highly hyped HW champion in Gane even though it was his first ever fight at HW at age 35 and it all simply didn’t matter Ofc this man is the GOAT 😂nobody else doing that
Jon jones is
-Undefeated
-Youngest ever champ
-Most title wins
-2 division champ
There is no one who can compete with that.He is not in arguments with gsp or Anderson silva he is in arguments with Messi and Muhammad Ali on how much they dominated their sport.beeeeeeeeeeeeee
Jon just finding out how good he is if he train's hard
Jon jones is the goat. Period.
When a fighter makes it look easy, he wasn't tested, when a fighter gets tested or in a war he is getting old or the competition is starting to pass him by. Jone is going to have that Mayweather complex where he will make the legends look like rookies compared to himself. His IQ and ability are on another level and I don't see him ever truly being tested maybe pushed like in the past but no one will tested jones
Just because you have a war does not mean your too old or competition is too hard as we know MMA math doesn’t add up and if your still in your 20s there will definitely be a lot of room to improve and use your experience to work on the holes in your game
You forgot about Sergei Pavlovich. He could be a real test for Jon Jones.
Pavlovich's takedown defense is bad. I think Jones takes him down and ground and pound TKOs him in 1 round
Pavolich literally got his ass whooped by out of his prime (not juiced) Allistair Overeem, he loses to Jon the same way.
The only thing GSP had over Jones was the was a double champ. There is no doubt that Jones is the GOAT.
What?
Edit: nvm I read it again
Also GSP has never been banned for drugs
Your correct. But he did wipe out light heavyweight. That is mad.
Don’t think we didn’t see you tweet and delete that Jon Jones would lose 👀
Jones is the the goat without a doubt it’s not even debatable
🥣 was the perfect opponent to come back for after 3 years off. I think if he beats Stipe and then a blades or pavlovich then it’s truly undeniable
How is Stipe at 42 without a win in 3 years and Curtis Blades undeniable 😂😂😂. In every other division it's so embarrassing
Jon Jones pod would be unreal
Sergei Pavlovich is the man who will give Bones the hardest fight at HW. It’s a 50/50 fight
didnt watched him but from what I've Heard he is only good at knocking people out what is his Ground game and grapling like and other atributes??
Idk but for me stipe is a Challenge even if he is old he has that exp also aspinal and blaydes which is good in wrestling.
Other then these 2 or 3 no one can beat him at hw imo
@@iamtheshadows4916 his wrestling is still unproven and blaydes fight in April 2023 gonna prove it
for me hes cemented his place stronger for being the goat however for me he needs to defend the heavyweight belt against 2 opponents and he's undoubtedly the goat by head and shoulders, definitely if he beats stipe especially taking out the goat of the weightclass higher whilst being the goat of the light heavyweight division just makes the the most badass and greatest o all time
I still put GSP as the GOAT of MMA.
Cleared out the welterweight division beating the Lightweight champion (BJ Penn) in one of the earliest super fights in the UFC. Avenged his only two losses to Matt Serra and Matt Hughes.
Then after four years away from the Octagon came back and took the Middleweight title from Bisping, all while not popping hot for PEDs.
Having said that though if Jon Jones does go on to have a run at heavyweight I think Jones surpasses GSP.
Bro you are really comparing jon jones with khabib at this point wtf khabib had only 3 title fights please stop
I would love to see jones and blades fight each other that would be dope asf!
He did take it to Gane , so true again , love it bro
Wait a minute. I just realized something. Jon Jones is the first UNDEFEATED double champ in ufc history. Every single double champ in ufc has had a least one loss from McGregor to Amanda nunes so he just became the first UNDEFEATED double champ in history 😬
Those big dudes at heavyweight aren’t more technical.
he needs to get the record for most heavy weight title defence's
It was a debate, now it isn't
The only thing surprising is how you were surprised in any way
The best Matchups for Jones are Blaydes, Aspinall and Jailton Almeida
I'll go out on a limb and say Bones fights Stipe twice and beats him both times before ending his career on a loss to Aspinal.
Jon is his only obstacle, I think he can beat every fighter in the top 10 if he's focused.
Having a perfect record is so hard that it takes more than just being the best. It’s also about following the rules which is very much overlooked.
A perfect record of a champion or high level fighter has factors to think about, level of competition, title fights and defences, an element of
Luck cannot be ignored, if they are a fan favourite and have had many controversial decisions and many more.
there is really no argument anymore
Jones absolutely obliterates Tom Aspinall in my opinion!!
Jones will fight in international fight week in July
Even before I started watching this video, I knew TG would big up Tom Aspinal - Who is a superb fighter, but he is the new generation, let him do his thing and get to the title in his time. It's unnecessary pressure. It's same thing which is done to English footballers. Let Tom do his thing, and take his time to come up.
Motivated Jon Jones might be better than a motivated Conor Mcgregor. Jones is the GOAT
The greatest we have ever since people forget GSP always went to decision against average fighters
I think Brian is wrong about the Stipe Miocic fight for 3 reasons
1 he is a all around fighter that beat Francis
2 he also beat Daniel Cormier which will add to the build up to the fight
3 he has the record for most title defence at heavy weight.
And for goat stats for jones is beating stipe
Spivac Will Bumrush Jones and the that early stoppage TKO
Jamal Hill at Heavyweight would be interested since he was able to handle glovers attempts at getting him to the ground…
The Tom Aspinall fight would be fire!
My goat in my opinion is Demetrius "Mighty Mouse "Johnson
The guy who sold 20 ppvs and fought taxi drivers? Yea why not
Jon will only fight two heavyweight fights and he will walk away . He will not risk Loseing his goat status by fighting more then two guys... My prediction is solid
How tf is that even a question
The Orc
Either Tom Aspinall or Curtis Blaydes
Jones beat Cyril in a few minutes while Ngannou needed a decision.
There’s no way you think Jones needs to clear heavyweight for goat status 😭
John was 100% injured going into that fight. we only seen him swimming in the unbedded vlog
I like how people said gane would destroy jon but after he lost people said ohhhh he isnt a grappler lol
We can judge him outside the octagon. We can have an opinion on what kind of a person he is, but Jones is the best combat athlete.