My TOP TIPS After 50 Hours in Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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These are my top tips for Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance after putting over 50 hours into the game (300+ hours if you count the original version)! Available now for the Playstation 5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X and Series S, Nintendo Switch, and PC!
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First SMT game ever. Took her hand. No woman left behind.
I wish I knew taking her hand was gonna lock me out of the neutral ending lol. Neutral is my favorite SMT side in every game.
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@@medalgearsalad1419 and?
@@bunnythebunbalboahardly locking you out of an ending, it’s a COMPLETELY different story depending on your choice
lol must save Lipgloss Yagami
Thanks as always Roz this is my first SMT game so these tips will definitely help along with my knowledge from persona
Congrats and enjoy! It's a great series!
Roze, I don't need to tell how you're my hero for the smt/persona series right? Congrats on the sponsorship and thanks for the tips, they're always amazing and I will look foward to more videos!
You are the man! I've followed you since your P5 Scramble tips and tricks and just have to say you remain the best on the platform for quality SMT content.
What a fantastic game. Im 10hours in and really looking forward to finding out why we got sucked into the netherworld and how we get back. So much to do. Really enjoying meeting all the demons via side quests. This game is a gem
Awesome sauce to see Sega paying you some well deserved attention! Do you recommend people who played SMTV to replay creation first or vengeance?
I don't see an issue with playing either first outside of if you are going for trophies and/or Godborn mode, in which case you would absolutely want to ~100% the True Neutral Ending of original story first to save yourself a lot of time.
Still the best Atlus content creator on youtube.
The man, the myth, the legend, provided a already well written video with actual tips for SMT vengeance.
Note: Hello man how you doing, oh and iis the fusion calculator for this already got datamined, and is SMT V’s difficulty still retained after the changes?
Datamine isn't fully out yet but is being updated. New story is slightly more difficult than original but not by much. The real challenge is Godborn mode, but that requires specific unlock steps. Basically, you need to do the original story's True Neutral Ending, then NG+ into the new storyline which will unlock a new super boss; beat that super boss and that will unlock the new Godborn NG+ mode.
Earn a sub, smooth voice, great content
First action when going to the demon fusing screen is to update your compendium. I do that all the time so everything is up to date
For the most part this is definitely true, especially since you can always pull out the base version as well in this game. There are some niche scenarios though where you may not want to overwrite you saved demon -- a key one I can think of is if you have a demon saved right before they gain their last skill so you can save scum multiple essences off of them.
I wonder what speedrun categories could come out of this game...
Some marathon(?) runs I'd be interested in seeing include beating both canons back-to-back, unlocking Godborn difficulty, and maybe even beating both canons back-to back _on Godborn..._
Yep, learnt 1-2 new things, this was good 👍
Do you have any idea whether the fusion chains for your previous builds will work on Vengeance or not? Also do you plan on making build guides foe this version of the game?
I haven't test the builds yet so I'm not 100% sure, but I was able to recreate both Idun and Artemis without complex chains using essences. As for build guides, I will probably put some out.
@@RozalinGaming That's cool to know. I look forward to your new build guides for Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance.
Thanks, Roz. A very informative, nicely edited video as always, and well worth a like and a sub.
This sounds complicated but i want to try it. Hoping forca sale in the steam summer sale at the end of the week
Wow. I would have never known any of this. Thank you!
Thanks for this helpful guide!! I’m so hooked to this!! Subscribed!!
I'd like to share some weakness/turn exploiting tips to help with the difficulty for some. Critical and weakness exploiting will offer a half turn more. When facing tougher and longer fights, the best thing to do for half turns is what I call scale tipping: instead of exhausting yourself by mashing an opponents weakness for all your turns, use the half turns for team management and scale tipoing:
Buff a defense. Debuff your target. Definitely lean into sukunda. Lowering their accuracy and evasion could save you when they toss out a heavy hittinf skill thst could put you on the back foot or even wipe out your party suddenly. So lowering the chance of the enemies turns being successful will quickly lead to oplonents wastinf turns by missing you, keeping you safe to double up on not only exploiting weaknesses, but keeping up with scale tipping for your favor. Keep buffing and healing when necessary on your half turns, until you can see the opening to end the fight.
Keep a variety of dampeners and shards/gems so you can squeak an extra turn when needed. Keeping this flow will be very helpful long term. Be patient. The fights can shift on any turn. Pay attn and play smart.
which difficulty would you recommend for a new commer? this is going to be my first smt game so I don't want to make it too hard and rage quit.
@@rgbeye5039from what I've seen, even normal can be challenging. Practice variety, have patience and get familiar with mechanics. I went straight to difficult mode. But even in normal, you cam struggle early on because things are limited and you start off with dark vulnerability, meaning enemies with dark can instakill you. You would want to change the element affinity of your character to avoid this. Only light and dark have instakill bonus
@@a.m.7438 Thanks, I went with normal. reached the area of diet building. got around 4 game overs. Never because of dark weakness, lucky I guess :)
So better skill roster and more combat detail. 🤔👍
Yeah when you mentioned pay attention to innate skills reminded me of my only game over so far and it wasn’t even a boss well I guess it was kind of a mini boss but it was an abscess muu shuwuu I hit them with a piercing skill but u fortunately muu shuwuu innate skill basically deals the exact amt of damage dealt to them by an opponent who uses a piercing skill… it one shot my nahobino
also for essences another method is to fight the Magatsu enemies they from what I’ve seen drop their essence 100% of the time also again idk but maybe save scum the demon haunt they also give essences there
Great vid! thanks for the tips
Great video. I have the original on Switch, but I can’t wait to dig in deeper on the PS5
As always thanks for the tips. One question I have. When I played vanilla SMTV I used your builds for Cleo, Alice, Idun, etc. Are they still viable in Vengeance or are there better demon builds I should be considering? Thanks!
I dunno if im a bit late, but if you have the DLC including Konohana Sakuya, then use Konohana Sakuya instead of Idun. Her unique skill is basically Golden Apple, but it also restores some MP. And her innate skill increases the HP/MP regeneration of her heal skills when she's buffed.
Great tips, thank you!
@Rozalin Thanks For the Important tip of Which Path i Need to Take to the Path of Vengence i pretty Helpful
Almighty strength based attacks + physical and almighty pleromas + critical boosts. I just make Nahobino’s strength super high. There’s also the proficiency miracles for almighty and physical attacks. You can make an absolute tank. I also got an ability that heals my MP when there’s a critical hit.
The other demons can do the elemental stuff. Loki is good to have the 4 main elements, then it’s good to have one or two demons that specialize in light and dark. Vishnu is top tier late game for this. Lakshmi makes a great white mage. Siegfried for an additional physical damage demon. Otherwise, just fuse Metatron and Sandalphon asap. The final boss was a joke for me lol I’m on my 2nd playthrough, and I wanna crush Shiva and Demi-fiend just the same
Thank you for this, cheers!
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7:40 I made the same mistake on confusing Magatsuhi Wellspring ( recover MP and HP if the Gauge is full at the start of a turn) for Magatsuhi Spring ( recover MP and HP if the Gauge becomes full in battle.)
So Magatsuhi Spring actually has a slight mistranslation and is supposed to be, "Slight MP recovery for all allies in the active party while the Magatsuhi Gauge is full in battle." Either that or the Japanese text is wrong which is certainly possible.
Did the Gold rock (treasure box) need to find all? Did achievement requier it?
Rozalinnn eres un geniooo
Are you going to make new demon build videos for this game & do the old ones still work?
Could you do more build guides in smt 5 please
When you respec do you get your glory refunded? I started with a mag build but want to switch to phys. Sadly I’ve already invested glory into elemental affinities tho
It just refunds stat points.
so wait... do I take her hand or not? I have never played a game in the franchise, saw my friend stream it on discord and instantly had to get it.
That depends on which story path you want to take: taking her hand = new story (Canon of Vengeance); not taking her hand = the original story (Canon of Creation).
I had to seek out your channel again a few days ago since the content is excellent man
Is there a spoiler free summary on how to actually approach the remake if you've played the original? I've heard completing one route unlocks things in another and vice versa but not entirely sure. Ig the main question is would doing the creation route first again be optimal even if you've played it already for the purposes unlocking secret bosses etc?
Route specific unlocks from the original story are still unlocked that (ex. Chaos Ending letting you choose any skill when fusing a new demon). One new super boss is only available in the original story -- the best spoiler-free advice I can give to unlock it is fuse every demon and do their side quests. There is another super boss that requires you to first get the True Neutral Ending on original story path, and then you can get a quest for it on NG+ on Vengeance story path -- this is how you unlock Godborn mode.
Final thing, Vengeance story path also has multiple endings but unlike the original story path where the main things that mattered were the questions near the end, Vengeance works more like past SMT titles, so be careful with that.
@@RozalinGaming I have a question, can you infinitely keep doing NG+ while switching around difficulties and story paths? Like for example if I beat the Vengeance story on Hard on my first playthrough can I then do NG+ (where I assume I keep most of the stuff I earned as well as levels, etc) while playing either on Hard again or increasing the difficulty further? Or it doesn't work that way?
@@Dwesk Whenever you choose to do NG+, it will ask if you want to do Newborn (minimal carry over), Reborn (carry almost everything over) or if you've unlocked it, Godborn (a special NG+ with Reborn carry-overs, enemies scaled to level 150, new demons, new essences, etc.). After that you get to choose which difficulty you want to play on again, and then once the game starts, you get the route choice again as well. For the platinum trophy you need to do a minimum of 6 runs on one save file.
@@RozalinGaming Wait so if you do Godborn is it like some Extra-Hard difficulty or can you somehow do the Godborn thing on casual? :D
@@Dwesk Godborn can be done on any difficulty, but it requires you to beat a new super boss to unlock and all enemies will be scaled up to level 150; in general though, it is supposed to be a harder mode, so even if you are playing on Normal for example, Godborn Normal will be more challenging than a standard Normal run.
This is useful
Do you know how to get past the patrolling guards to get into Chiyoda?
Nice video but with all the reviewers out no one has mentioned about what happens when starting the Vengeance story-line after beating the original game. Does any thing get carried over?
Are you referring to if you had the original game on Switch and then got SMT5V on Switch as well?
@@RozalinGaming Yup correct is right thanks
@@nyn2k259 I can't say for certain since I was only provided a PS5 copy, but from what I've heard you get some bonuses based on which endings you got in the original game. As for what those bonuses are, that I'm not sure of either.
@@RozalinGaming Bro I beat the game 3 times lol but ofc only one ending will work based on what I saved. Thanks for the feedback.
@@nyn2k259 did you do NG+ runs to get those endings on one save file, or use separate save files for each ending? Because to get the bonuses the endings needed to be on one save file.
Allure is a must for cheap recruit
I'm about to play SMT5:V for the first time on PC, having no previous SMT experience. Should I choose Creation or Vengeance first?
Either one is fine from a story perspective, but CoV is slightly more challenging due to the bosses so if that is a concern then maybe start with CoC.
Is pumping all stat boosts into strength still the best strat or is magic better now?
Depends on what you are doing and what difficulty you are playing on; there is a viable magic build, as well as a pure support build now too.
@@RozalinGaming for a hard mode playthrough, sounds like all strength is still the way to go?
@@rrahma114 I'm currently running a magic build on hard mode. Full strength is only really necessary if you are going for cheesy 1-shots on bosses; other than that as long as your build is focused, anything should work. There is an item that lets you reallocate your stats too just in case you want to experiment.
The fights aren't too tough but much more difficult than persona, single level different or certain enemy debuff and you're done in.
Anyways is the essence a limited resource that's why you save scum it?
Essences aren't limited in that you can get them multiple times, but you can only hold one of any given essence at a time. The reason to save scum for them is if you want multiples of a demon's essence for passing around certain skills. You'll find many essences through the world, and Gustav will sell more and more as you progress, but for any that aren't sold, once you use one you get as an item from treasure orbs, the only way to get another is for a demon to give it to you.
This game is HARDDD!! 😭
Does idun still the best healer? I really like your demon build from the og smt v, does it still apply in smt v vengeance?
So even in the original game Idun does eventually got outclassed by Demeter but she is still just as strong in this version. That being said, if you pick up the new DLC, Konohana Sakuya is basically a straight upgrade to her.
Thanks for the reply. Does the dlc demon here worth getting?
@@k.ir.a9968 I mean that's really up to you; while she is stronger than Idun, it's not by that much. It really just comes down to whether or not you feel the price is worth two new demons or not.
I'm planning on getting this game what be a good decision to pick vengeance or creations
That decision really comes down to whether or not you care about unlocking the Godborn NG+ mode and/or the platinum trophy, or not. If you want either of those things, then I would highly suggest doing Creation first and aiming for the True Neutral Ending; otherwise you can really play them in any order.
Can somebody tell me how do innate skills works for me it seems like most of the time it doesn’t do anything with some of them
It depends on the innate skill -- some passively work, some require specific conditions to be met. All require the demon to be in your active party though, and there are quite a few that are mistranslated as well.
Can I new game plus on different canons? Because I haven't played smt 5 yet so I want to play the first path.
Yep. The path select happens after you start NG+, so you can make that choice each time.
Is there a way to reallocate your statpoints for protagonist ?
Yes, there is an item that lets you do this, though it is fairly rare.
what is that sound from 0:34 its so familiar but i cant remember
They are interface sounds from Persona games.
@@RozalinGaming oh is it from the dancing games?
@@kittideree Nah, mainline.
Should I buy the dlc bundle? I see some people say it will ruin the game and make it too easy?
The DLC is entirely optional even if you buy it since it becomes a togglable setting in the menu (for the money, EXP, glory DLC).
@@RozalinGaming Thank you!
I just googled. Oh platinum will be looooooooong:
"...you cannot save scum the endings and they must all be done on the same save file through New Game+, requiring one playthrough each (6 playthroughs total)"
Or maybe even 7 times (if we want to go though Godborn later, not sure what is it and when it's better to beat this mode)
@@kiranis2174 with planning 6 is the minimum number of runs for the platinum; it's long :(
Hoping someone who has played can answer, are you able to freely choose ALL skills a demon inherits on Fusion now? Or are you still restricted so they have to have certain skills and therefore have less choice and less skills you can bring over? I always hated that because it made fusions nearly worthless when you lose half of a demon's value. And the only fix was locked behind NG+ after a Chaos ending.
It works just like the original game for that ability -- you unfortunately need to do CoC Chaos.
@@RozalinGaming Damn. That's discouraging.
@@JuliusKingsleyXIII It's really not that bad. If you're actively grabbing all items spheres on the map you can make most demons entirely with essence fusion.
Neko Shogun gang rise up
Can i pause cutscenes?
Yes
My biggest crutch in STM/Persona games, even tho I only played Q/Q2/Royal/Strikers/Tactica and now Vengeance, is that I exclusively only use Persona/Demon waifus and female characters. I just can't be bother with monsters and dudes. Only exceptions are those that look like femboys, like Dionysius, who is pretty sexy.
Hello! Does this take 20+ hrs before the story really gets going like persona 3s story?
@@leosnap7831 Wow! That’s so many words written, and not an answer to my question among any of them. Impressive. 👏 👏👏
Probably about 7-ish in vengeance-after you get back from the netherworld and get ambushed in the train station. It’s probably shorter if you rush to bosses rather than trying to 100% it like I did
Sorry bro, SMT isn't about the story. Its about gameplay. If you want story play Persona.
The only tip you need put it on hard more and don’t quit
You're voice is too gentle and it's making me sleepy help
I’m worried that all the additions of gameplay in vengeance will make the game easier. I hope they rebalanced the original enemies.
Vengeance is a slightly more difficult fresh playthrough do to the bosses; however, if you unlock Godborn, that is specifically designed to be extremely hard and tuned for level 150.
They didn’t, but that’s ok, because the new bosses are happy to wreck your shit
Game hasent been out for 50 hours...
I literally say at the beginning of the video, "courtesy of Sega who happens to be the sponsor of today’s video - huge thanks to them - I have already played over 50 hours of it." Game may have just released but I have had access to it for a while now.
lol
This should've been a dlc
You clearly don't understand how different it is
I really don't understand why this guy doesn't have a huge subscriber base. His videos consistently have one massive advantage over alot of other tip videos, and that is clarity.
I would say that the games he plays are still a bit niche. And people who play them are a bit introvert. But yeah rozalin is an incredible UA-camr and deserves only the best
For the longest time I used to watch this guy without being subscribed because I only needed the guide in one specific game and I didn't care about the other games he made videos about
It's criminal. Should have seen his guides for Persona 5 Strikers. He was the only one out there.
@TheDeatharcana Bro, I was here when I was playing P5 Strikers, too! His guides helped out immensely. 🔥
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You got sponsored? Nice👍
8:01 A man of culture I see. I can't wait to make her lvl99 again.
honestly,, mermaid can be pretty powerful sense she can damage all enemies at once. sometimes instally kills them lol
Is physical still the best or did they buff magic build for main character?
Among the new essences for the MC, one of them has the potential to make an extremely good magic build, but I haven't personally tested it yet. There are also some interesting buff spells for him too, so alongside Kannabi Veil, a support MC is probably very viable too.
Thanks for the vid! My first ever Shin Megami game! From what I’ve seen it’s like, dare I say, Pokemon, but with Demons and siiiick designs. Got it on PS5 with the Steelbook.
The UA-camr I always look for when I get my Atlus games! Looking forward to more videos. Also as a question I got the game on ps5 and switch and I was wondering your thoughts for which 3 demons would be best to transfer for switch version?
I had always planned to pick up this version on PS5 so I didn't really put any thought into which demons I would choose to bring over on Switch.
All good! Looking forward to those fusion guides I know you’re cooking up
is smt hard compared to other jrpg? I wanna play it because I love the persona games but I heard smt is way harder than persona
SMT isn't any harder than Persona; if you've already played those then you'll be familiar with most of what the an SMT game will throw at you.
that energy dampener tip is pretty clutch. i never use them shits lol
can someone recommend to me a must have miracles for early game even late game miracles
Prioritize miracles that increase the number of skills you and your demons can have, how many skills can be passed down through Essence Fusion, and finally anything that increases how quickly the Magatsuhi gauge fills. After that it really doesn't matter, though I would avoid the mastery miracles (fourth page of miracles) until you've solidified what build you want and have gotten everything in the categories I mentioned first (skills, essence fusion, magatsuhi).
Great video keep them up!
Are there any guides on getting a specific route? I wanted the chaos ending but i found out that I locked myself in the law route. Any help on getting the chaos ending for a second playthrough?
Law vs. Chaos for CoV basically come down to siding with Tao (top option in dialogue) for Law or siding with Yoko (bottom option in dialogue), and then for the side quests that have you kill a specific demon, side with the chaos one (ex. Leanen Sidhe over Apsaras).
@@RozalinGaming So note to self, bottom option is always Yoko, Leanen Sidhe, Adramelech and others (Not sure about Kudlak or Kresink...) AND something I discovered from some digging, player icon turning anti-clockwise for chaos.
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So, since we have two separate stories, we will need to gather full compendium 2 times? (If I want to go on NG+ with 100% compendium)
Sound tedious. :O
You don't have to. When you choose to do NG+ you get to select which story you want to do while keeping everything you want like normal.
@@RozalinGaming You mean there is one common compendium for both stories? (if so it's super great)
I thought I would need to go through both stories on NG and two more times for both stories on NG+. But maybe it will be more efficient to play through the original story on NG and through new story on NG+?!
@@kiranis2174 the way it works is when beginning a game, you choose which story to play through, but the file is still one file so regardless of if you choose the old or the new, everything that transfers will transfer regardless.
10:37 - But that's only the 5th skill, not the last one?
It's whatever skill is their last one to learn naturally.
@@RozalinGaming Right. Last base skill before increasing the number they csn have.
Is magic build still sucks?
Lots of the new exclusive nahobino skills are magic so I really hope not
I'm currently testing a few different non-Nahobino builds using new and old skills; one is a ice/dark magic build that also has a poison them, one is an ice/almighty magic build, and one is pure support. So far they all are working well for end-game content but each still have flaws I'm working out.
I thought the magic build was better in smtV?
@@Delmworks magic build is good in early/mid game, strengh build shines in late game. Both builds are balanced well in SMT V.
The trophy list is absolutely awful 😞 I’ll give this a game a go but definitely not bothering with the platinum. Very useful video overall. I’ve never played smt before
Yeah the platinum requiring a minimum of 6 playthroughs is very rough. :(
@@RozalinGaming I personally getting the free DLC Safety difficulty for some of the repeat playthroughs (at least for the endings you didn't pick in your first Canon of Creation run).
Can you do the other story in new game + or are you forced to make a new save?
The decision on which story path to take is technically made after starting the game and so either can be done in NG+ -- it's setup this way because it's necessary for both trophy purposes but also superboss/godborn unlocking.