I watched this video without audio, and you answered several questions I had with very descriptive hand gestures. Fantastic job on the creation of this video!
I the stovepipe from Home Depot. It's the standard 3" variety that you assemble. It comes "opened" in the shape of a "C" and you need to bend it into the tube shape and lock in the seam. It also comes back apart again which is nice because it allows you to store more stovepipes in the can if you want to.
I'd have to say that's pretty good. I have only slept in the snow once when I was a boy scout, your smart to elevate over the ground. This is really something, an in tent heater thing -great!
Cool set up... i'm sure everyone else has already told you but a simple addition that would make it much more efficient in both heating and in turn wood consumption is adding a baffle that redirects the heat, instead of just going straight out the stove pipe.
Have you considered adding two baffle plates at the top. The lower baffle would have an opening in the back and the top baffle would have an opening in the front. This would direct the fire's exhaust from the back of the stove to the front of the stove and across the top before going up the chimney. Should increase the heating efficiency as well as increase the top of the stove's temperature for cooking purposes. Since the door is in the front, you can easily clean any soot. Great Video !!!
I use black Hi Temperature paint designed for BBQ's. As far as the factory OD green that came on the ammo can, it burns off pretty quick after a few good hot fires. Mine started to rust after a few trips and that's when I went to the hi-Temp paint. If you're really worried about the paint my advice would be to run a couple good hot fire(s) through the stove in a open area to allow any paint to off-gas before you actually use it in a tent. If you're really worried just sand the paint off.
Thanks for answering, I just bought an ammo can and it wan't until i was reading why galvanized stove pipes were bad with regards to zinc oxide, i started to think... damn I never thought if the ammo can itself had been galvanized. My can does have a nice ring of rust on top of it... I'll burn the paint off and reevaluate.
The stovepipe exits outside the tent and it's tall enough to provide enough draft so I don't worry about leakage. This is no different then running a chimney in a home. Hunters, trappers, and settlers have run "sheepherder" stoves in their canvas tents and cabins for 100's of years without issue, this is no different. And yes, there are enough gaps in my tent to provide make-up air with no worries.
@curtispa I don't need another door... additional doors mean more opportunities for leaks. Stoves work best when they're as close to airtight as possible. The only air coming into the stove should be from my air regulator at the front. As far as ash removal is concerned I just wait until the stove is cool and then remove the front door and dump it out. Removing the stove-pipe to dump the ash is really not that big a deal.
Yup... the top gets quite hot and will easily boil water or cook food. Especially if I load it with oak and open up the air to stoke the fire. (I have tons of black oak in my neck of the woods...) I don't think it cooks as quickly as open flame but I'm generally not in too much of a hurry anyway when I'm in the woods...
@drjamyma The short answer is No... That is of course If you're worried about the Zinc Oxide fumes and possible "Metal Fume Fever" from simply burning wood in it. I believe the temperature must be much higher than what this little stove is capable of to actually get the galvanized metal to melt. ( I once read well above 1500...) That being said, The can did not appear to be galvanized. Once the paint burned off it easily rusts.
@blkft12 I used a mig welder, A Hobart "Handler 140" to be exact. If you don't have a welder you could easily build this with a rivet gun or even screws. I've seen other ammo can stove projects done without a welder.
The tarp will only melt back about an inch, and from then on it's fine. You can find a true silicone/fiberglass stovejack that you can sew or tape on for $25~35 online. If you want a cheaper DIY version, go to Lowes or Home Depot and get an "Oatey Flame Protector" from the plumbing department. These will take 2500 degrees and are designed to protect wood studs from the flame when plumbers are soldering pipe. they cost $11~15. They are 9" X 12" and can be sewn on or attached with Gorilla tape.
what abt a small door on the side or the back to clean wood out so u dont have to take the pipe off while its up in the tent at the end of the vid ? grate job i have thought abt maken 1 myself this summer n trying it out with a 40mm or a bigger one ive got
@RubiconDave Special ordered but she did confirm that you should not use the galvanized pipe. I have had alot of trouble finding the correct pipe and it is quite a bit more exspensive.
@RubiconDave Thats what I thought Dave. I went to Home Depot and the guy I talkied to there seemed pretty knowledgable. He told me I could d=not use the galvanized pipe for that purpose and told me it was because that pipe would emit a poisonous gas when heated up by fire. Said deffinantly not in a shelter or cabin. He told me to use the black pipe that is used on traditional stoves or fire places. Home depot does not carry this by the way. I called a fire place shop and in the 3" it has to be
@bwarrior I got the stove pipe from Home Depot. I'm sure you can also find it at Orchard, Lowes, etc.... It's just simple galvanized single wall flue pipe. It comes "opened" and you'll need to hand mold it into a tube and lock the seams together. I believe the pipe was only 3 dollars a section.
@bwarrior I use the galv pipe all the time with no ill affects... read my post farther down regarding the galvanized pipe. Someone already brought up that point.
I am doing this with a 20mm can when I took out the rubber gasket I noticed the lid fit really loose, am I going to have to weld all the way around it to seal it so it doesn't leak smoke?
No idea on the warmth since I didn't have a thermometer with me but it was toasty enough that I could change without freezing...if I had to guess I would say 60's easy.
Nice, I did a stove on sqweakyhingeTV. What did you use at the top of your tent? Looks like a steel rectangle plate? I was thinking of using a Kevlar flap. I'm interested on how hot the stove pope is at the top of your tent.?
where do you live that you get that much snow ? I wish your project was doable for me but i have no welder and there is no way i could do a only bolt on version. esp with all the welds you did on this build. Nice set up if you had a welder.
How is the carbon monoxide level in your tent due to that fire? Do you need a CO alarm device? It would be unpleasant to wake up dead one morning. Maybe there is adequate ventilation through the small openings in the tent.
@fatguyaaron: I don't know what the 20mm can looks like but on my lid the edges wrap around the sides when the lid is closed so it wasn't an issue. I will also add that since I made this video I added a 1" filler piece to the top of the opening to act as a "smoke dam" when I open the lid to add wood. It helped significantly with reducing the smoke that escaped when adding wood.
The shelter is just a simple tarp stretched between three trees. I taped a zipper to it for access from one end. Home Depot carries zippers for setting up dust containment in homes. just Google "Homax tarp zipper door" you'll find a bunch of them. It took about 15 minutes to set up. I just draped the rope around 3 trees and threw the tarp over it.
Nope.. I barely had the time to make this one between work and play, let alone make a video about it. :) Most of my welding time is now on my 4 wheeler...
I'm trying to decide between making one of these. Or maiming some buckets for a different approach. Ultimately. I want mine to be able to hold most, if not all of its parts. And to not be a POS.
I like that you didn't over explain it ,right to the point !
I watched this video without audio, and you answered several questions I had with very descriptive hand gestures. Fantastic job on the creation of this video!
I the stovepipe from Home Depot. It's the standard 3" variety that you assemble. It comes "opened" in the shape of a "C" and you need to bend it into the tube shape and lock in the seam. It also comes back apart again which is nice because it allows you to store more stovepipes in the can if you want to.
I'd have to say that's pretty good. I have only slept in the snow once when I was a boy scout, your smart to elevate over the ground. This is really something, an in tent heater thing -great!
Cool set up... i'm sure everyone else has already told you but a simple addition that would make it much more efficient in both heating and in turn wood consumption is adding a baffle that redirects the heat, instead of just going straight out the stove pipe.
Have you considered adding two baffle plates at the top. The lower baffle would have an opening in the back and the top baffle would have an opening in the front. This would direct the fire's exhaust from the back of the stove to the front of the stove and across the top before going up the chimney. Should increase the heating efficiency as well as increase the top of the stove's temperature for cooking purposes. Since the door is in the front, you can easily clean any soot. Great Video !!!
I use black Hi Temperature paint designed for BBQ's. As far as the factory OD green that came on the ammo can, it burns off pretty quick after a few good hot fires. Mine started to rust after a few trips and that's when I went to the hi-Temp paint. If you're really worried about the paint my advice would be to run a couple good hot fire(s) through the stove in a open area to allow any paint to off-gas before you actually use it in a tent. If you're really worried just sand the paint off.
After watching your video I decided to make a stove Works awesome thank you for your advice and input
Awesome design
very simplistic and functional
Thanks for the vid!
Thanks for answering, I just bought an ammo can and it wan't until i was reading why galvanized stove pipes were bad with regards to zinc oxide, i started to think... damn I never thought if the ammo can itself had been galvanized. My can does have a nice ring of rust on top of it... I'll burn the paint off and reevaluate.
some great tips for building a good stove thanks
The stovepipe exits outside the tent and it's tall enough to provide enough draft so I don't worry about leakage. This is no different then running a chimney in a home. Hunters, trappers, and settlers have run "sheepherder" stoves in their canvas tents and cabins for 100's of years without issue, this is no different. And yes, there are enough gaps in my tent to provide make-up air with no worries.
Excellent, thanks for sharing the video. Should help me when making mine.
@curtispa I don't need another door... additional doors mean more opportunities for leaks. Stoves work best when they're as close to airtight as possible. The only air coming into the stove should be from my air regulator at the front. As far as ash removal is concerned I just wait until the stove is cool and then remove the front door and dump it out. Removing the stove-pipe to dump the ash is really not that big a deal.
Yup... the top gets quite hot and will easily boil water or cook food. Especially if I load it with oak and open up the air to stoke the fire. (I have tons of black oak in my neck of the woods...) I don't think it cooks as quickly as open flame but I'm generally not in too much of a hurry anyway when I'm in the woods...
@drjamyma
The short answer is No... That is of course If you're worried about the Zinc Oxide fumes and possible "Metal Fume Fever" from simply burning wood in it. I believe the temperature must be much higher than what this little stove is capable of to actually get the galvanized metal to melt. ( I once read well above 1500...) That being said, The can did not appear to be galvanized. Once the paint burned off it easily rusts.
@blkft12
I used a mig welder, A Hobart "Handler 140" to be exact. If you don't have a welder you could easily build this with a rivet gun or even screws. I've seen other ammo can stove projects done without a welder.
Nice job!
Damn that was cool, gonna make one for the back yard.
That's awesome! Thanks for the video.
The tarp will only melt back about an inch, and from then on it's fine. You can find a true silicone/fiberglass stovejack that you can sew or tape on for $25~35 online. If you want a cheaper DIY version, go to Lowes or Home Depot and get an "Oatey Flame Protector" from the plumbing department. These will take 2500 degrees and are designed to protect wood studs from the flame when plumbers are soldering pipe. they cost $11~15. They are 9" X 12" and can be sewn on or attached with Gorilla tape.
what abt a small door on the side or the back to clean wood out so u dont have to take the pipe off while its up in the tent at the end of the vid ? grate job i have thought abt maken 1 myself this summer n trying it out with a 40mm or a bigger one ive got
@RubiconDave Special ordered but she did confirm that you should not use the galvanized pipe. I have had alot of trouble finding the correct pipe and it is quite a bit more exspensive.
@RubiconDave Thats what I thought Dave. I went to Home Depot and the guy I talkied to there seemed pretty knowledgable. He told me I could d=not use the galvanized pipe for that purpose and told me it was because that pipe would emit a poisonous gas when heated up by fire. Said deffinantly not in a shelter or cabin. He told me to use the black pipe that is used on traditional stoves or fire places. Home depot does not carry this by the way. I called a fire place shop and in the 3" it has to be
@bwarrior I got the stove pipe from Home Depot. I'm sure you can also find it at Orchard, Lowes, etc.... It's just simple galvanized single wall flue pipe. It comes "opened" and you'll need to hand mold it into a tube and lock the seams together. I believe the pipe was only 3 dollars a section.
Great design.
Thanks, I never thought about how it would translate without the audio...
@SqueakyHingeTV
It's just light gauge aluminum I had floating around. The square fits inside the ammo can so it packs up nicely.
I have to get one. No I HAVE to get one. I really do NEED this. I cant explain why but (need) fits very well.
For me. It's not a need... Yet. But, there's a fairly heft amount of want in owning one of these. Just for the sake of being able cook and keep warm.
Very nice! How warm did it make your tent? What would you estimate it increased the ambient temp?
@bwarrior I use the galv pipe all the time with no ill affects... read my post farther down regarding the galvanized pipe. Someone already brought up that point.
Great video can't wait to build my own. Quick question tho , Where did you get the stove pipe from?
Thx.
This is one of the better tent stoves I've seen. My only concern would be the weight :-/
Awesome stove! But that is going to be a ton of shoveling.... LOL
I am doing this with a 20mm can when I took out the rubber gasket I noticed the lid fit really loose, am I going to have to weld all the way around it to seal it so it doesn't leak smoke?
No idea on the warmth since I didn't have a thermometer with me but it was toasty enough that I could change without freezing...if I had to guess I would say 60's easy.
Nice, I did a stove on sqweakyhingeTV. What did you use at the top of your tent? Looks like a steel rectangle plate? I was thinking of using a Kevlar flap. I'm interested on how hot the stove pope is at the top of your tent.?
how do you prevent the chimney from heating or melting the tarp
where do you live that you get that much snow ? I wish your project was doable for me but i have no welder and there is no way i could do a only bolt on version. esp with all the welds you did on this build. Nice set up if you had a welder.
Great
Thanks for sharing
VERY clever...how often do you need to stoke it overnight ? I also imagine wood charcoal might work well in that also.
How is the carbon monoxide level in your tent due to that fire? Do you need a CO alarm device? It would be unpleasant to wake up dead one morning. Maybe there is adequate ventilation through the small openings in the tent.
@LOADEDF1ST
I got mine at home Depot but you can find them at any hardware store (Ace, Lowes, OSH, etc...)
Looks like the perfect size for what your doing. Can you cook an egg on it?
Grand Trunk "Skeeter Beater"... thanks for the comments and the sub.
Quick question. Do you have to have some airflow from the outside to counter what the stove is taking from inside your tent?
@fatguyaaron: I don't know what the 20mm can looks like but on my lid the edges wrap around the sides when the lid is closed so it wasn't an issue. I will also add that since I made this video I added a 1" filler piece to the top of the opening to act as a "smoke dam" when I open the lid to add wood. It helped significantly with reducing the smoke that escaped when adding wood.
nice how long will it burn on a load of wood . i might build some to sell.
A spark arrestor or screen would be a good thing but this is in the dead of winter and the fire danger is very low so I didn't use one.
do you worry about whether or not the ammo can is Galvanized?
thats art!
I don't know much about this stuff nut maybe a screen at the top of your stove pipe. That would stop embers from flying especially on your tent.
Where do you get you stove pipe? Is it galvanized? How much did it cost? Im having a lot of trouble finding it.
What was the shelter used or if it was Do it yourself thing how did you make it?
The shelter is just a simple tarp stretched between three trees. I taped a zipper to it for access from one end. Home Depot carries zippers for setting up dust containment in homes. just Google "Homax tarp zipper door" you'll find a bunch of them. It took about 15 minutes to set up. I just draped the rope around 3 trees and threw the tarp over it.
that stove was choochin good
4 years ago.... is this still operational?
Yup, still working. All it's needed is a couple coats of paint occasionally to keep the rust at bay.
have u thought of making and selling these ???
@fatguyaaron Thanks for the quick reply.
not trying to be a buzzkill, this is very cool, but are ammo cans coated with CARC paint that is toxic?
Nope.. I barely had the time to make this one between work and play, let alone make a video about it. :) Most of my welding time is now on my 4 wheeler...
You didnt bring this on our trip.
I'm trying to decide between making one of these. Or maiming some buckets for a different approach.
Ultimately. I want mine to be able to hold most, if not all of its parts. And to not be a POS.