I got gray hair watching the Destroyer "warp away" and leave you with no loot or salvage. I got even more gray hair seeing the utter and complete lack of loot in the shipyard. Luckily, when you showed the repair cost I didn't get more gray hair. . . it fell out.
Yeah...so unreasonable to maybe 1% of the cost of an entire modern fighter-bomber, for a ship that would qualify as an advanced naval destroyer (more so, because of the sci-fi tech in it). . Should've been closer to 40 billion. Doesn't even matter what the hypothetical exchange rate would be. That price is gonna have 9 zeroes in it...period.
Look, Mac, you can have us just put steel over it.... Or we can do a Warranty supported repair. Combat Steel aint cheap... if you want cheap go hardened.
Dnt feel bad Spanj. I talked a few MP players to take 3 CVs to try on the Tovera as i had already beat it with a full geared battleship. None of us knew about the shield glitch. They got in, dropped the shields and fired nonstop for 10 mins, losing 2 CVs and evacuating with one heavily damaged one. The Tovera had this glitch and they failed to spot it into well too late lol. POIs of some types have this too. You have to bomb the shield gen inside. That was the only way I could turn these off.
So here is my theory on killing ships. Zirax-kill all turrets first, then thrusters /generators. For tovera, turrets on one side only then generators. For drone nullifiers - target thrusters only and get behind them to take out the rear thrust. Then target generators. This will core them. They travel in pack so you have to kill them all fast as they always die within shooting distance making looting one by one difficult at best. This is much easier with a buddy. As for infectors and decimators, not sure yet... Haven't gotten that far. Previously I think I targeted infector turrets and shot artillery cannons at the "bullseye" to core it. For Decimators, it's been a while but I imagine I would go for turrets and generators but I'm not certain if there is a better tactic.
Wouldn't it be better to have some cheaper turrets on the nose and move the pulse cannons back a bit? I hope you find a quantum extender then you can upgrade your shield generator to T2..
Shields T2 already ;) Also, the Workshop version has that idea already implemented, well apart from moving the lasers back but cheaper turrets for better upgrades elsewhere
why have you put weapons in the nose area,if you intend to let the nose be the target ,id personaly move the weapons off to the side out off firing range/targeting
They are also decoys in case generators are not the target, mounted weapons almost certainly would be, but while they are not destroyed, may as well use em
It's stable. More challenging. Hard to get used to the way vehicles move. Much better explosions etc. You need purpose built vehicles (no all purpose stuff). It's meant to extend your game well beyond vanilla, meaning it takes a while to get to endgame and once ur there you still have a lot to do. AI is smarter and harder to defeat. I absolutely love it and doubt I'll ever play vanilla again... I'd suggest joining a mp server and get in a faction or make one with some friends.
Most of the space POIs are years out of date and have no shields, poor loot and poor weapon setup. The Reforged variants like the Repair Station are identifiable by their shields, but you kinda need to go looking for the loot. There's like 2 ultra and 3 very rares in that repair station in the two front rooms and in the lower deck. Repair costs at trade stations were set by Eleon and not adapted to their own updated 1.3 market system. In 1.2 and earlier versions repair costs were determined by block recipes and component costs, making each steel block around $8 and a 8x repair cost would make that a fair price. As of 1.3, every device and block has a pre-set market value that the repair operates off that results in the multi-million credit repair costs in vanilla.
Hey spanj sorry i haven’t been watching you for a while bc I needed a break from empyrion bc it was the only screen game that iv bean playing for 2 years. But now im back to watching eatch of your vids.😢
I make my CV out of xenon steel, they are lighter than combat steel same CPU and about 2200 hit points or there about . OH I put my command chair deep inside the CV . good video stay safe .
I think taking out the thrusters could be a viable option if you wanted to just immobilize the destroyer, go take the shipyard then come back with a full.shield and just take the turrets then
to solve the turrets focus problem, put some cannon turrets set only for targeting drones, and focus the rest of your turrets to target and take down enemy weapons first. and the spawners you couldn't destroy is a drone spawner, you can't destroy until you take the core down, i think they added this newly to the game. as always another fun and enjoyable to watch video. cheers.
I know this was months ago, but just as a thought experiment, would it have been better if you targeted turrets at first, to reduce incoming fire, and then after being positioned behind him for a minute or so, only then switching to targeting then generators? The idea being take out most of the turrets that can hit you in the position you’re in, putting you under less pressure while working to take out the generators.
I took down one of these in vanilla last night, FYI it has 4 T2 genny's mounted in the center section vertically. When you targeted just generators I was thinking this will be a real test!
Vendetta did very well :) took down quite a few in 1 episode, my current one is made mostly of basic steel and carbon substrate...how long do you reckon that would last rofl...1 minute?
@@vfrhawk7633 there is a key bi d to keep ur speed at 100%. It's press left ctrl key while holding w. If u press and hold the ctrl key prior to pressing w, it takes forever to get to 100%. This method is useful when I'm like 5km from an asteroid and have to go to the restroom. I will slowly accelerate to about 30 m/s and then let it fly while I take a break
This is the content from this game that i wanted to see. Have to start diging myselft to this game. I find building bit obnoxious on these type of games, but its still fun.
I think the reason it took so long to defang that Imerat class destroyer could be the fact that invisible walls that keep absorbing damage appeared again in 1.3 .... fought a Battlecarrier today took me around 30 mins to defang it, at some point i realised my turrets are shooting but no damage is happening so i changed my firing position, somehow they destroyed it later but then the ship keeps moving even without generator, since the whole ship was so blown up i could see the core easily and shot it as a player then the ship stopped, tried to get inside but then realised i cannot because the stupid invisible walls are blocking me -.-
1.3 update causes ships to keep moving after power is turned off. Test it for urself by hitting the y key while ur moving. Pre 1.3,u would stop as soon as u press y. Now u keep moving. As far as invisible wall, that's Ben a problem for a long time on zirax battleships
@@samsquatch7285 Yeah i'm aware of the moving bug, unless its cored it keeps moving even if the thrusters are destroyed lol... while the invisible walls were a problem before, since 1.0 it wasn't a thing anymore, used to raid those no problem, but now with 1.3 it appeared again and raiding enemy CV's is a waste of time and resources, even if you manage to bring one down you cannot loot it nor dismantle it :/ , now i figured i can relog to fix the invisible walls, most of the time ship dissapears after i relog but 2-3/10 times it remained there and i was able to dissasemble it, might try to relog after i enter a playfield before i attack an enemy CV see if that fixes anything
@@Zycrus24_7 You can use your drone on the ships that get the invisible wall's to loot it, it is a pain but it's better then no loot. The drone works like it's in god mode and you just demo the crate and pick up the backpack.
Couldn't help but notice that the Vendetta uses rockets. Aren't they nerfed in reforged? They seemed to work but do they work as well as other weapons?
@@zocker3393 too many for my fat fingers to type. Go to the workshop and search reforged. There is a link with a Huge explanation of how reforged works. Then download "Reforged Eden" by Ravien_ff to play!
Why did you not shoot of the turrets of the destroyer? You could have made it a slaughter. That destroyer is killable in a starting CV with hit and run tactics as long as you hit the turrets so it becomes harmless. Its annoying that it keeps turning tho.
I was testing the damage profile, ie how the Vendetta took damage and how much damage she could take, removing the turrets would have been counter productive to that test.
It depends from a station to a station, both things count pretty much though, would be even more expensive without the -20% discount, some stations have cheap ammo and such while some others have cheap pentaxid and so on, not sure which stations have cheap repairs haven't found 1 yet, maybe some of the Zirax stations hmmm.
I got gray hair watching the Destroyer "warp away" and leave you with no loot or salvage. I got even more gray hair seeing the utter and complete lack of loot in the shipyard. Luckily, when you showed the repair cost I didn't get more gray hair. . . it fell out.
You had laser and guided missiles selected at the same time. Guided missiles are much cheaper and you just bought a lot of lasers
spanj: "hey guys, how much will it cost to fix my ship?"
pol: "how much ya got?"
spanj: [......😨]
Yeah...so unreasonable to maybe 1% of the cost of an entire modern fighter-bomber, for a ship that would qualify as an advanced naval destroyer (more so, because of the sci-fi tech in it).
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Should've been closer to 40 billion. Doesn't even matter what the hypothetical exchange rate would be. That price is gonna have 9 zeroes in it...period.
Put the Zirax missile turret on it! Do it good sir!
Look, Mac, you can have us just put steel over it.... Or we can do a Warranty supported repair. Combat Steel aint cheap... if you want cheap go hardened.
Dnt feel bad Spanj. I talked a few MP players to take 3 CVs to try on the Tovera as i had already beat it with a full geared battleship.
None of us knew about the shield glitch. They got in, dropped the shields and fired nonstop for 10 mins, losing 2 CVs and evacuating with one heavily damaged one. The Tovera had this glitch and they failed to spot it into well too late lol.
POIs of some types have this too. You have to bomb the shield gen inside. That was the only way I could turn these off.
So here is my theory on killing ships. Zirax-kill all turrets first, then thrusters /generators. For tovera, turrets on one side only then generators. For drone nullifiers - target thrusters only and get behind them to take out the rear thrust. Then target generators. This will core them. They travel in pack so you have to kill them all fast as they always die within shooting distance making looting one by one difficult at best. This is much easier with a buddy. As for infectors and decimators, not sure yet... Haven't gotten that far. Previously I think I targeted infector turrets and shot artillery cannons at the "bullseye" to core it. For Decimators, it's been a while but I imagine I would go for turrets and generators but I'm not certain if there is a better tactic.
So you would have to take out the generators to keep it from Warping? If you kill it and strip it does that keep it from respawning like bases?
Spanj *builds entire starfleet and prospering*
Me *still stuck on frozen starter world struggling to stay warm*
4 mil? Easy money. Its a cool 650 mil to replace one Disruptor cannon! lmao
You can get the quantum's in some of the legacy bases on their homeworld(s) as well.
Tell me more 😁
@@samsquatch7285 go explore. It's a lot more fun that way. Once you find the location do as Gandalf once said "keep it secret, keep it safe".
I was thinking "that doesn't seems to be enough turret for a combat cv". Then he deployed the turrets...
Loving the series :D
You definitely got me back into playing EGS :D
Wouldn't it be better to have some cheaper turrets on the nose and move the pulse cannons back a bit? I hope you find a quantum extender then you can upgrade your shield generator to T2..
Shields T2 already ;)
Also, the Workshop version has that idea already implemented, well apart from moving the lasers back but cheaper turrets for better upgrades elsewhere
Polaris need a purge... Station service prices need a serious nerf !!~!! :) Negotiations by gunpoint has worked before !!~!! :)
why have you put weapons in the nose area,if you intend to let the nose be the target ,id personaly move the weapons off to the side out off firing range/targeting
They are also decoys in case generators are not the target, mounted weapons almost certainly would be, but while they are not destroyed, may as well use em
Have a question, i been playing vanilla. Is eden better like in more content and is it stable?
It's stable. More challenging. Hard to get used to the way vehicles move. Much better explosions etc. You need purpose built vehicles (no all purpose stuff). It's meant to extend your game well beyond vanilla, meaning it takes a while to get to endgame and once ur there you still have a lot to do. AI is smarter and harder to defeat. I absolutely love it and doubt I'll ever play vanilla again... I'd suggest joining a mp server and get in a faction or make one with some friends.
You could probably alternate poking the up and down keys to absorb a lot more damage, since you have top and bottom armor ridges
Imerat... Attacking from the top worked for me getting to the Generator's… not so much "stuff" in the way...
Timer for a Vendetta?
Most of the space POIs are years out of date and have no shields, poor loot and poor weapon setup.
The Reforged variants like the Repair Station are identifiable by their shields, but you kinda need to go looking for the loot. There's like 2 ultra and 3 very rares in that repair station in the two front rooms and in the lower deck.
Repair costs at trade stations were set by Eleon and not adapted to their own updated 1.3 market system. In 1.2 and earlier versions repair costs were determined by block recipes and component costs, making each steel block around $8 and a 8x repair cost would make that a fair price. As of 1.3, every device and block has a pre-set market value that the repair operates off that results in the multi-million credit repair costs in vanilla.
Hey spanj sorry i haven’t been watching you for a while bc
I needed a break from empyrion bc it was the only screen game that iv bean playing for 2 years.
But now im back to watching eatch of your vids.😢
I make my CV out of xenon steel, they are lighter than combat steel same CPU and about 2200 hit points or there about . OH I put my command chair deep inside the CV . good video stay safe .
I think taking out the thrusters could be a viable option if you wanted to just immobilize the destroyer, go take the shipyard then come back with a full.shield and just take the turrets then
to solve the turrets focus problem, put some cannon turrets set only for targeting drones, and focus the rest of your turrets to target and take down enemy weapons first.
and the spawners you couldn't destroy is a drone spawner, you can't destroy until you take the core down, i think they added this newly to the game.
as always another fun and enjoyable to watch video.
cheers.
That imerat put up one hell of a fight. Nasty bugers. I lost 3 sv's to one of those things almost instantly dang the pack a punch.
You should hit a rocky desert for the Black Pyramid in an episode, it's pretty epic!
I would if I could find one.
@@Spanj I may know of one..
I know this was months ago, but just as a thought experiment, would it have been better if you targeted turrets at first, to reduce incoming fire, and then after being positioned behind him for a minute or so, only then switching to targeting then generators? The idea being take out most of the turrets that can hit you in the position you’re in, putting you under less pressure while working to take out the generators.
I took down one of these in vanilla last night, FYI it has 4 T2 genny's mounted in the center section vertically. When you targeted just generators I was thinking this will be a real test!
Zirax Dreadnaughts will often have quantums as well
yeah Spanj, check the Polaris local cost multiplier, that one is 8 times more than base repair cost
I think with a ship like this the priority should be with a B/F thrusters and you could remove some of the L/R thrusters
We can't warp while under fire during combat, but the enemy AI can. Interesting.
The 3 million was for the pine tree air freshener they're going to hang from the rear view mirror. (Pine trees are rare in space don't cha know)
Vendetta did very well :) took down quite a few in 1 episode, my current one is made mostly of basic steel and carbon substrate...how long do you reckon that would last rofl...1 minute?
I love watchin you being hardcore in this game lol xD
Stupid question, but how do you go to max speed in cruise so quickly? I always have to hold down shift + w until it gets to it...
It's all about ms2. 50 ms2 will get u to 100 in 2 seconds etc
@@samsquatch7285 I assumed I'd missed a keybind that just set your cruise to 100% instanly!
@@vfrhawk7633 there is a key bi d to keep ur speed at 100%. It's press left ctrl key while holding w. If u press and hold the ctrl key prior to pressing w, it takes forever to get to 100%. This method is useful when I'm like 5km from an asteroid and have to go to the restroom. I will slowly accelerate to about 30 m/s and then let it fly while I take a break
This is the content from this game that i wanted to see. Have to start diging myselft to this game. I find building bit obnoxious on these type of games, but its still fun.
if you ever come across abandoned assembly line go for it. well worth effort and so much fun from doing that poi
Sorry 4 being late. Love your trekee CV ship
Dreadnaughts can have 4 quantums
Just dont kill generators or try to blow up the core room as that is where the quantums are.
if you blow the generators will the shields stay down?
Hello what is the server reforged ? I don’t find it on the list please
Wait a minute.....the Vendetta doesn't have a detector?
You had both laser and missiles checked. Missiles are a lot cheaper than laser charges.
It is me or you miss some guns after the template repair of the Vendetta?
I really enjoy watching you toodling around in your builds.
1st! Great content Spanj!
I think the reason it took so long to defang that Imerat class destroyer could be the fact that invisible walls that keep absorbing damage appeared again in 1.3 .... fought a Battlecarrier today took me around 30 mins to defang it, at some point i realised my turrets are shooting but no damage is happening so i changed my firing position, somehow they destroyed it later but then the ship keeps moving even without generator, since the whole ship was so blown up i could see the core easily and shot it as a player then the ship stopped, tried to get inside but then realised i cannot because the stupid invisible walls are blocking me -.-
1.3 update causes ships to keep moving after power is turned off. Test it for urself by hitting the y key while ur moving. Pre 1.3,u would stop as soon as u press y. Now u keep moving. As far as invisible wall, that's Ben a problem for a long time on zirax battleships
@@samsquatch7285 Yeah i'm aware of the moving bug, unless its cored it keeps moving even if the thrusters are destroyed lol... while the invisible walls were a problem before, since 1.0 it wasn't a thing anymore, used to raid those no problem, but now with 1.3 it appeared again and raiding enemy CV's is a waste of time and resources, even if you manage to bring one down you cannot loot it nor dismantle it :/ , now i figured i can relog to fix the invisible walls, most of the time ship dissapears after i relog but 2-3/10 times it remained there and i was able to dissasemble it, might try to relog after i enter a playfield before i attack an enemy CV see if that fixes anything
@@Zycrus24_7 You can use your drone on the ships that get the invisible wall's to loot it, it is a pain but it's better then no loot. The drone works like it's in god mode and you just demo the crate and pick up the backpack.
@@deadinthehead3505 thats a nice idea tnx, why didnt i think of that xD
Couldn't help but notice that the Vendetta uses rockets. Aren't they nerfed in reforged? They seemed to work but do they work as well as other weapons?
explosive damage appears to be not working correctly on MP, impact damage is still ok i think
Watching at 6 mins ago upload
Love this ship plan to be my next cv
Eyo so I'm about 40 hours into a survival playthrough on vanilla. Is it worth it to just stop the playthrough and start the eden scenario instead?
Yes! I assume u meant reforged eden as u can play project eden in vanilla😜
@@samsquatch7285 what's the differences between vanilla and eden
@@zocker3393 reforged galaxy is a mod made by Vermillion. Project eden is a quest/storyline that you can play in vanilla or reforged.
@@samsquatch7285 what features does it add
@@zocker3393 too many for my fat fingers to type. Go to the workshop and search reforged. There is a link with a Huge explanation of how reforged works. Then download "Reforged Eden" by Ravien_ff to play!
Why did you not shoot of the turrets of the destroyer?
You could have made it a slaughter.
That destroyer is killable in a starting CV with hit and run tactics as long as you hit the turrets so it becomes harmless.
Its annoying that it keeps turning tho.
I was testing the damage profile, ie how the Vendetta took damage and how much damage she could take, removing the turrets would have been counter productive to that test.
The Polaris labor rate must be insane for that high of a repair bill.
There was a x8 increased local cost factor... even with a -20% discount. That sounds weird.
It depends from a station to a station, both things count pretty much though, would be even more expensive without the -20% discount, some stations have cheap ammo and such while some others have cheap pentaxid and so on, not sure which stations have cheap repairs haven't found 1 yet, maybe some of the Zirax stations hmmm.
@@Zycrus24_7 Ah, good to know! Thanks!
do crew up CPU? just started trying RE, so I'm a bit behind on what's new!
Crew reduce the CPU cost so worth getting if you can.
@@flangeclamp4239 Really good to know, nice wee update to them
Just want to ask are u having no drains on Ores with auto miners on ?
yes, auto miners do not deplete deposits
Hey Spanj, 1.4 just released today, thoughts?