I know you said you don’t have you’re rack bolted down, but please people if you get these, bolt the rack. He has a weight stack at the back of the rack to help keep it stable.
If you haven't tried it when you're using the lever arms as a hack squat use heel wedges but instead of elevating your heels use them the opposite way and put them out in front of you and it feels awesome
@gerrymcghee872 yeah me too, but for 300+, that feature should be included. Heck, even for 200 is to not have that fearure. I'm broke, man. I'm trying to MAXIMIZE my purchases.
I found your channel looking around for what’s possible with lever arms and if I should buy them and your diy system was pretty great in my opinion but glad you got these to help keep you safer
Hopefully those adapters are coming soon! Seems like they work really hard over there so I can see it happening soon. And glad you're enjoying the cable towers! Definitely right up there with these are my favorite purchases- I love the cable exercises too.
I have the TITAN series versions of these lever arms and I love using them, but I HATE moving them around and setting them up. To get a good starting position for flat bench I have to use plyo boxes to rest the arms and weights on. I've been trying to get my hands on these vendetta adapters but they're always sold out.
It's incredible. One other thing I forgot to mention in the video is how much it saved my rack, too. The lever arms scuffed up the rack on the first day but after adding the adapters no part of the lever arm makes contact with the upright so you never have to worry about that
I just picked up the Griffin Fitness lever arms 2.0, they have the articulating arms. Can't wait to get them and incorporate machine like movements to my training to give my joints a break since I train for powerlifting. I'd do them for my accessory work.
Great video, thanks for showing this adapter off! I was wondering if you have ever tried fitting this to your 2x3 5'8 BoS cable tower upright? Does it fit?
Great video! I wonder if you got the Kaizen adapter for this? I never considered using these for dips was considering getting mutant metals one with their awesome knurled handles might just have to get these. People are always selling on FB Marketplace will have to check. I have a Rep rack with dual cables so really want one of these I can put on and off. I'd like to have them above cables so I can hook cable weight to them to do fast drop sets but then if on permanently it will prevent cables from being at top and ruin lat pulldown. I mostly do pullups and often add weight so they are lighter weight for higher reps but I enjoy them a lot, preventing me from getting these so far.
I had watched this and finally got the same setup for my T3 rack. They are awesome. Quick question :What size of adjustable pull up bar are you using? The T3 lever arms are 2 x 2 but the BOS pull up bars is 2.3 x 2.3
Hi, I'd like to see some combinations of theese new lever arms and safety arms on them (with plates loaded on safety arms) in order to change the resistance curve.
Hello, Avid subscriber here! I loved your video and you’ve sold me on the use of lever arms. However, I have a few questions and would appreciate your advise: I’m 64 years old, retired and live on a budget. I workout six days a week. The budget and my inexperience led me to buy an ER Kang smith machine, the cheapest one available on Amazon. Regardless, the machine works great for me and I can safely (I train by myself) do a myriad of exercises. This machine comes with its own set of lever arms, probably not as good as those from Titan and not as easy to handle without the adapters you suggest, which probably is why I haven’t used them. I’m willing to make the sacrifice and invest on the Vendetta adapters and, if needed, on the Titan lever arms. But, do you know if Vendetta sells adapters that would fit my smith machine or would I also have to invest on a different smith machine? Please advise. Thank you! Tirso
Do you miss not being able to connect your lever arms to the cable tower stack? Seems like that was a pretty ideal setup as far as the actual loading of the jammer arms goes…different resistance angle
I hope BOS upgrades those cable towers to be 3x3 with 5/8ths holes and options to go 80, 90 and 100" to match their racks. I'm half in half out on buying the cable towers becausw they're the only ones that can go 1:1 with a 210 stack (they should upgrade to 250/60 stack and 500lb cables to match the Athena). I'm considering making a little all in one with two cable towers, iso arms, and the lat and row in the middle. Connect them all with the middle cross member on the lat, and rear cross members on the towers. Other that or find 3x3 options that can mount on the manticore. I can't find an equivalent rack attachment functional though with a 1:1 and 200+ stack. 😢
I would love to see a comparison between the two types of resistance for lever arms: cables and weight plates. I’d expect that cable resistance would be greatly superior for this application, due to the more consistent resistance curve. Seems like weight plates on lever arms would be very prone to dead zones and reduced resistance at the most important parts of certain lifts: the bottom stretch position. Generally, I’d expect the ideal characteristics for lever arms to be: as long as possible to reduce the arc you feel, as lightweight as possible for adjustability, and resistance via cable for consistency. The advantage of the Vendetta design is in setup convenience, with the sliding function and the ability to adjust starting positions via hitch pins, but it comes at the cost of being able to use cables, which I’d bet is a pretty huge trade off. Hopefully PRX’s upcoming jammer arms with integrated cables that they teased on Garage Gym Reviews will solve for that. 2024 is going to be the year of the Jammer Arm, and I’m so here for it!
Yeah, it's definitely a tradeoff, but I honestly feel like the weight plates are working absolutely fine in this case. There's a huge difference in the stability of these 3x3 arms vs the previous BoS lever arms I was using (which are closer to 2x2) so right off the bat it feels significantly different. But with the ability to select so many starting positions, I've honestly found the resistance to be extremely consistent through the movements. Obviously if you were to setup something like a seated chest press at 90 degrees and attempt to push in a straight path away from you, you'll notice that dead zone and only be feeling resistance at the top of the rep. But if you adjust your starting position so there is resistance from the start (like the chest press I demonstrate in the video) it works flawlessly. There's definitely an advantage to using cables, especially given the ability to change the weight instantly vs changing out the plates, but I honestly don't feel like the tradeoff is huge at all. I love using cables with the lever arms, but these lever arms have been great for me without 'em.
Any thoughts on a similar lever arm trolley for BOS All-in-One, which has 2.3" x 2.3" uprights? BOS has tons of attachments that work with those uprights, including lever arms, but the convenience afforded by these adapters makes me feel like I'd really be missing out on something if I just got the BOS lever arms on their own... Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
I’d like to see you rig up some pulleys to connect your lever arms to the BoS weight stacks. It’s hard to describe but I have my BoS lever arms connected to my lat pulldown attachment, and a 3x3 crosspiece at the ends of the arms to connect them and create a foot plate. I use this all as a leg press. Feels great, kinda like a Cybex lever leg press.
Definitely, I was using the cables on my lever arms when I was using the lever arms right on the cable tower uprights. Absolutely loved it. But with the way this is set up now, it makes it really tough to connect the cables to these arms.
Great stuff! Never used Jammer Arms before but I just built out a proper home gym and they're on my list of future purchases! Have you used these new ones with a cable setup for more constant tension throughout the entire ROM? Also, have you seen the Mikolo 3" x 3" Jammer Arms? Seem like a decent budget choice since it includes the ability to adjust the starting angle for only $250 but it's only for racks with 1" holes so I don't think it'll work with your Titan X-3. Doesn't have a trolley like the Vendetta nor as many adjustment points but still seems like a nice middle ground for a decent price. Also, the matching 3" x 3" P5 power rack + attachments they are selling seem like fantastic options in general. They are available on the Mikolo website and a-m-a-z-o-n.
I'm playing around with the cables still, but it's tough to make it work with this setup because the weight plates or weight stack (depending on which you are using) interfere with the pulleys since you are pulling directly backwards from the tower. Since you can change the angles so easily with these, I haven't felt a need to use the cables anymore. I find that there is constant tension through all the exercises since I can choose a starting point that allows tension from the very beginning. And I'm not familiar with those arms specifically, but I have nothing against budget options if it's what works best for you. The trolley is incredible and has made these so much more practical IMO because it saves so much time you usually have to dedicate to adjusting the lever arms. But it's certainly not necessary.
Hey man. Nice video! Do you think you’d benefit a lot from using the Megalith handles with your lever arms? Or do you think the standard handles offer enough range of motion that you’re not really gaining that much if you switched to the megalith handles?
The megalith handles seem really cool but I can't justify the price after buying both the lever arms and the adapters. Tacking on $300 for handles is a bit much for my purposes. I have no issues with the handles as-is, if anything I find myself wishing there was a better neutral grip option because the current option is a little too wide for me, but megalith handles wouldnt fix that anyway 🤷♂️
It depends on the exercise. I'm still playing around with it but the distance makes it tough. Since you need to attach either a long handle or a chain of some kind to reach the arms, pulling straight backwards from the tower means it's going to collide with the weight stack or the plates. It seems to only work if the cables are at the highest setting because then they won't collide with the weights. But, we'll see!
I have the same setup using vendetta and Titan lever arms. I really like the vendetta , but how do you install the leg press foot attachment . It’s so heavy 😅 Is it the best position for leg press ?
i recently got the signature fitness lever arms but my rack is 3x2 with the holes in front i cut some hardwood and was gonna drill holes in the side uprights but also looking at a 3x3 power rack can you recomend any to fit theese arms im in canada as well.
These are the Titan lever arms? T3? I have those Considering this purchase in order to maximize the pressing motion. Right now Im not in love with the lever arm movements.
Assuming the pulley system is adjustable, it wouldnt work. Theoretically if the pulley was fixed to the top or the bottom of the upright I suppose that would work, but otherwise it would interfere with the trolley
I’ve been waiting for months for this one to come back in stock!!
Me too. I just got an email that they are back in stock yesterday and immediately purchased.
I know you said you don’t have you’re rack bolted down, but please people if you get these, bolt the rack. He has a weight stack at the back of the rack to help keep it stable.
If you haven't tried it when you're using the lever arms as a hack squat use heel wedges but instead of elevating your heels use them the opposite way and put them out in front of you and it feels awesome
My Rival jammer arms are also my favourite purchase. So flexible and your videos show even more options for me to try. Keep up the great content
Can you do pec flys w/ them? No, then how were they a good purchase for all that money.
@@simsjw I use my cable machine for flys. I don’t consider £200 a huge outlay for a piece of equipment
@gerrymcghee872 yeah me too, but for 300+, that feature should be included. Heck, even for 200 is to not have that fearure. I'm broke, man. I'm trying to MAXIMIZE my purchases.
I found your channel looking around for what’s possible with lever arms and if I should buy them and your diy system was pretty great in my opinion but glad you got these to help keep you safer
So jealous. I am still waiting for them to make the 2x3 adapters! Great content. You are the reason I purchased the BOS cable stacks!
Hopefully those adapters are coming soon! Seems like they work really hard over there so I can see it happening soon. And glad you're enjoying the cable towers! Definitely right up there with these are my favorite purchases- I love the cable exercises too.
What alternatives can we use for our T3 2x3 since vendetta doesnt have it for our rack lever arms yet?
Literally just sold out on their latest 2x3 T3 pre-order!@@doctabustacruz
It works with 2x3 it's just loose, they even have it on their website as valid uses
@@JMFowlkes luckily Mr. Vendetta will be shipping my 2x3 adapters tomorrow! Can’t wait.
I have the same Titan lever arms and have been looking at going in on the Vendetta adapters as well as the GymPin articulating adapters.
I have the TITAN series versions of these lever arms and I love using them, but I HATE moving them around and setting them up. To get a good starting position for flat bench I have to use plyo boxes to rest the arms and weights on. I've been trying to get my hands on these vendetta adapters but they're always sold out.
Loved the video! Especially the exercise demonstration for leg press , hack squats and calf raises !
Thank you! Definitely need to keep playing with them to get them to feel right, but we're on the right track
This is one I needed to see. Been wanting to see the Vendetta trolly
It's incredible. One other thing I forgot to mention in the video is how much it saved my rack, too. The lever arms scuffed up the rack on the first day but after adding the adapters no part of the lever arm makes contact with the upright so you never have to worry about that
I just picked up the Griffin Fitness lever arms 2.0, they have the articulating arms. Can't wait to get them and incorporate machine like movements to my training to give my joints a break since I train for powerlifting. I'd do them for my accessory work.
How are the griffin lever arms? Do you like them? There isn’t much content on UA-cam about them.
Great video, thanks for showing this adapter off! I was wondering if you have ever tried fitting this to your 2x3 5'8 BoS cable tower upright? Does it fit?
Great video! I wonder if you got the Kaizen adapter for this? I never considered using these for dips was considering getting mutant metals one with their awesome knurled handles might just have to get these. People are always selling on FB Marketplace will have to check.
I have a Rep rack with dual cables so really want one of these I can put on and off. I'd like to have them above cables so I can hook cable weight to them to do fast drop sets but then if on permanently it will prevent cables from being at top and ruin lat pulldown. I mostly do pullups and often add weight so they are lighter weight for higher reps but I enjoy them a lot, preventing me from getting these so far.
I had watched this and finally got the same setup for my T3 rack. They are awesome. Quick question :What size of adjustable pull up bar are you using? The T3 lever arms are 2 x 2 but the BOS pull up bars is 2.3 x 2.3
Bump. Same question. My adapters are coming late July/early August. Thanks in advance
Hi, I'd like to see some combinations of theese new lever arms and safety arms on them (with plates loaded on safety arms) in order to change the resistance curve.
Hello, Avid subscriber here! I loved your video and you’ve sold me on the use of lever arms. However, I have a few questions and would appreciate your advise:
I’m 64 years old, retired and live on a budget. I workout six days a week. The budget and my inexperience led me to buy an ER Kang smith machine, the cheapest one available on Amazon.
Regardless, the machine works great for me and I can safely (I train by myself) do a myriad of exercises. This machine comes with its own set of lever arms, probably not as good as those from Titan and not as easy to handle without the adapters you suggest, which probably is why I haven’t used them.
I’m willing to make the sacrifice and invest on the Vendetta adapters and, if needed, on the Titan lever arms. But, do you know if Vendetta sells adapters that would fit my smith machine or would I also have to invest on a different smith machine? Please advise.
Thank you!
Tirso
Do you miss not being able to connect your lever arms to the cable tower stack? Seems like that was a pretty ideal setup as far as the actual loading of the jammer arms goes…different resistance angle
I hope BOS upgrades those cable towers to be 3x3 with 5/8ths holes and options to go 80, 90 and 100" to match their racks. I'm half in half out on buying the cable towers becausw they're the only ones that can go 1:1 with a 210 stack (they should upgrade to 250/60 stack and 500lb cables to match the Athena). I'm considering making a little all in one with two cable towers, iso arms, and the lat and row in the middle. Connect them all with the middle cross member on the lat, and rear cross members on the towers. Other that or find 3x3 options that can mount on the manticore. I can't find an equivalent rack attachment functional though with a 1:1 and 200+ stack. 😢
I definitely need that for my home gym. Good info 👍
Definitely recommended!
Hi Matt! I love your channel. What rack do you recommend from bells of steel?
I wish they made these compatible with the T-3 rack from Titan Fitness!
Would this work on fitness realty 810x rack ?
I would love to see a comparison between the two types of resistance for lever arms: cables and weight plates. I’d expect that cable resistance would be greatly superior for this application, due to the more consistent resistance curve. Seems like weight plates on lever arms would be very prone to dead zones and reduced resistance at the most important parts of certain lifts: the bottom stretch position.
Generally, I’d expect the ideal characteristics for lever arms to be: as long as possible to reduce the arc you feel, as lightweight as possible for adjustability, and resistance via cable for consistency.
The advantage of the Vendetta design is in setup convenience, with the sliding function and the ability to adjust starting positions via hitch pins, but it comes at the cost of being able to use cables, which I’d bet is a pretty huge trade off.
Hopefully PRX’s upcoming jammer arms with integrated cables that they teased on Garage Gym Reviews will solve for that.
2024 is going to be the year of the Jammer Arm, and I’m so here for it!
Yeah, it's definitely a tradeoff, but I honestly feel like the weight plates are working absolutely fine in this case. There's a huge difference in the stability of these 3x3 arms vs the previous BoS lever arms I was using (which are closer to 2x2) so right off the bat it feels significantly different. But with the ability to select so many starting positions, I've honestly found the resistance to be extremely consistent through the movements. Obviously if you were to setup something like a seated chest press at 90 degrees and attempt to push in a straight path away from you, you'll notice that dead zone and only be feeling resistance at the top of the rep. But if you adjust your starting position so there is resistance from the start (like the chest press I demonstrate in the video) it works flawlessly.
There's definitely an advantage to using cables, especially given the ability to change the weight instantly vs changing out the plates, but I honestly don't feel like the tradeoff is huge at all. I love using cables with the lever arms, but these lever arms have been great for me without 'em.
Any thoughts on a similar lever arm trolley for BOS All-in-One, which has 2.3" x 2.3" uprights? BOS has tons of attachments that work with those uprights, including lever arms, but the convenience afforded by these adapters makes me feel like I'd really be missing out on something if I just got the BOS lever arms on their own... Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
We need an update on that new power rack !!! As well as the cable system if its a different one !!
On it!
Full Workout routine video showing all equipment used would be a good video idea!
Thank you!
I’d like to see you rig up some pulleys to connect your lever arms to the BoS weight stacks.
It’s hard to describe but I have my BoS lever arms connected to my lat pulldown attachment, and a 3x3 crosspiece at the ends of the arms to connect them and create a foot plate. I use this all as a leg press. Feels great, kinda like a Cybex lever leg press.
Definitely, I was using the cables on my lever arms when I was using the lever arms right on the cable tower uprights. Absolutely loved it. But with the way this is set up now, it makes it really tough to connect the cables to these arms.
What is the best way to set the pins up to mimic the hammer strength chest supported rows?
Great stuff! Never used Jammer Arms before but I just built out a proper home gym and they're on my list of future purchases! Have you used these new ones with a cable setup for more constant tension throughout the entire ROM?
Also, have you seen the Mikolo 3" x 3" Jammer Arms? Seem like a decent budget choice since it includes the ability to adjust the starting angle for only $250 but it's only for racks with 1" holes so I don't think it'll work with your Titan X-3. Doesn't have a trolley like the Vendetta nor as many adjustment points but still seems like a nice middle ground for a decent price.
Also, the matching 3" x 3" P5 power rack + attachments they are selling seem like fantastic options in general. They are available on the Mikolo website and a-m-a-z-o-n.
I'm playing around with the cables still, but it's tough to make it work with this setup because the weight plates or weight stack (depending on which you are using) interfere with the pulleys since you are pulling directly backwards from the tower. Since you can change the angles so easily with these, I haven't felt a need to use the cables anymore. I find that there is constant tension through all the exercises since I can choose a starting point that allows tension from the very beginning.
And I'm not familiar with those arms specifically, but I have nothing against budget options if it's what works best for you. The trolley is incredible and has made these so much more practical IMO because it saves so much time you usually have to dedicate to adjusting the lever arms. But it's certainly not necessary.
Can you do a shoulder press like on the hammer strength
And do you think the arms should adjust left to right?
Works on Powertec rack?
Have you looked into adding a gym pin adapter to your lever arms?
Hey man. Nice video! Do you think you’d benefit a lot from using the Megalith handles with your lever arms? Or do you think the standard handles offer enough range of motion that you’re not really gaining that much if you switched to the megalith handles?
The megalith handles seem really cool but I can't justify the price after buying both the lever arms and the adapters. Tacking on $300 for handles is a bit much for my purposes. I have no issues with the handles as-is, if anything I find myself wishing there was a better neutral grip option because the current option is a little too wide for me, but megalith handles wouldnt fix that anyway 🤷♂️
is it still feasible to still use your cables with them?
It depends on the exercise. I'm still playing around with it but the distance makes it tough. Since you need to attach either a long handle or a chain of some kind to reach the arms, pulling straight backwards from the tower means it's going to collide with the weight stack or the plates. It seems to only work if the cables are at the highest setting because then they won't collide with the weights. But, we'll see!
I own mikolo jammer arms that attach to a 3x3 rack with 1" holes. Compatible?
I wonder whether these would be compatible with the Force USA G15 machine
I have the same setup using vendetta and Titan lever arms. I really like the vendetta , but how do you install the leg press foot attachment . It’s so heavy 😅
Is it the best position for leg press ?
When you do a seated chest press with heavy weight, how do you keep the bench from moving backwards during the concentric part of the movement?
i recently got the signature fitness lever arms but my rack is 3x2 with the holes in front i cut some hardwood and was gonna drill holes in the side uprights but also looking at a 3x3 power rack can you recomend any to fit theese arms im in canada as well.
Have you done vertical leg press with the titan attachment and the lever arms with this new setup?
Yeah, a version of that is in the video towards the end
@MattRosenman I am always scared to load it with heavy weight. Don't want to get crushed lol
How heavy have you gone?
These are the Titan lever arms? T3?
I have those
Considering this purchase in order to maximize the pressing motion. Right now Im not in love with the lever arm movements.
Will you get the kaizen gympin adapters?
What is the length of the arm extended from the rack? I’d like to get these if I have space.
About 40". Just keep in mind that you'll want a little extra room to be able to navigate around them when fully extended, too
Hi, could you tell me your rubber mat model? Is it thick? I have a limited high space so I don’t want a very thick mat. Thanks for the video!
The mats I have are 3/4" thick which I feel like is perfect. I have limited space too so it works
What’s the height of your rack?
Would these lever arms be able to fit and interface with a pully system thats on the same upright?
Assuming the pulley system is adjustable, it wouldnt work. Theoretically if the pulley was fixed to the top or the bottom of the upright I suppose that would work, but otherwise it would interfere with the trolley
is your rack 42"? if so how did the adjustable bells of steel pull up bar fit your rack?
Yeah. The bells of steel pull up bar is for their hydra rack, which is their 3x3 rack with the same width, so it fits perfectly on the lever arms
@@MattRosenman I think Bells of Steels hydra rack is 43" no?
Jam on 👊
Looks like a pain to remove
I’ll just buy a lever gym
Please tell me if you can get drawings of these simulators. Thanks in advance.